Blade & Soul NEO Classic - Developing NEO Classic Part 1 (With English Captions)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Our first Developer Commentary Video has arrived in Developing NEO Classic Part 1, with English Captions included! In this video, we’ll be talking about the development goals that NEO Classic is aiming for in terms of classes, combat, equipment, and art style. See below for a link to more Soul Log articles detailing the development of Blade & Soul NEO Classic.
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This game is so gonna flop and die fast. Farming equipment with random stats is not in spirit with classic game. Please keep streamlined weapon and equipment path (morph). It's easy, fun and gives incentive to go into almost every dungeon. Also make old skill system with points and a lot of customization. Not this random skills on equipment taken from mobile BNS2 which flopped hard. Please listen to the players and give them what they ask.
collecting endless items is not fun
totally agree
The upgrade system itself was fantastic compared to other games of the time. The problem with the system was the overtuned requirements and ultimately the need to throw money into it. Keeping the upgrade system but streamlining the drop rates as well as removing some RNG would be really nice.
The 1.0 version in Korea does not have any weapon upgrade path. The 1st version have upgrade patch was Chinese version. So yeah, no upgrade path is the true classic BnS. The version that was release for NA/EU is far from the classic things
Part of the original fun in Blade and Soul was the streamlined upgrade path, where you’d use story dungeons to progress your equipment, all the way until the endgame. If you’re removing all that to just add RNG effects that you have to grind for centuries, that’s the total opposite of what original BnS felt like.
Collecting items is not fun to most people. Playing the game is the fun not staring at menu
1:31 "To increase the satisfaction of farming gear and minimize the stress of upgrading, we added RANDOM stats"
Thank you so much for this change, farming gear with random stats is really satisfying and not stressing at all - said no player ever.
Amen brother.
yeah this has to be the most out of touch take of game dev history
it is actually involving tho ... as long as u have th chance to discard them and try adding another stat... think of it .. when things are too easy to get .. its just boring ..so .. some chalenge aint bad i guess
Still beats mindless grind for weeks on end for some scales or some other arbitrary material in order to get arbitrary stage whatever and then start the grind over for the next who-tf-even-cares-anymore stage 46. Ppl claiming the current upgrade system is in any way defendable are delusional, or unaware why bns is dead. And clearly did not play or dont remember how engaging it was to progress the game before legendary weapons were even introduced.
@@paul_r3482 Not really involving or challenging though. Moreso tedious because now you don't have a choice whether you have something actually worth using or not. It still artificially times you out of getting what you want, this time with RNG substats, which is pretty much worse on all accounts.
It could have been what it originally was, which you know, is the "objective" of that game, but no, still more grinding or paying to get there.
adding rng upgrade system to make it less stressful
KEKW
Well it was already that way on kr idk how it'll be on eu
Players: hey ncsoft, tell us you are out of touch and learned nothing
NCsfot: RNG progression
Removing upgrades because it was stressful and replacing it with RNG stats on equipment drops?? Not sure if for you, but for me that's gonna be much worse than before and 100% you will be able to buy items for better rolls or locking certain stat, that's probably the idea behind the system.
well said, worries me too. 😮💨
Something tells me that they want to implement similar systems from BNS 2 (a mobile game)... disappointing
i mean it gives you a goal to keep farming a dungeon but yea i hope the stats are not that random
It gives you the reason to farm and go to dugeons rather than just buying items that are needed for equipment upgrade.
Most of players in Korea thinks equipment upgrade patch "ryung weapon" was the reason why bns got ruined at first place.
This is because ryung weapon killed the reason go to dungeons and farm. Also, the upgraded weapon was too powerful and became required. But there was limit for people who does not spend money on the game and forced people to spend money.
Korean players think that ryung weapon was the first patch that NCsoft forced p2w in bns.
Missing the point here.
Instead of farming for x weapon or piece, u have to obtain it. Then you have +15 it.
Now u can obtain anything with x rng stats(additional from.main stats).
The idea is that u don't need to upgrade it, just get it. You just need the right rng roll for it.
The +15 levels is out or the window. Just get the right stat. That's easier. This model allows replayability while also keeping the 'Bis' mindset.
If they dint do this people would obtain everything for almost free, making equipment redundant.
"Removing the upgrades and adding random stats to equipment so it's not stressful to farm". Makes sense, yeah... lol
So they are also going to remove all paths? The interesting thing about this game was the different gear paths, if you now turn it into a Diablo-style game where you have to farm tirelessly until you get the most optimal stats... it's going to be the same as LIVE but in a different way, although the result will be the same: the one we all know.
I guess they don't want to make the same mistakes but new mistakes, so in NEO 2 they can say the same thing about no more mistakes...
collecting endless items is not fun, starting at menus is not fun
Please no P2W it was the downfall of the orginele version PVP and P2W don't go hand in hand.
Originele 😂
It's a cash grab, they don't do this for the player, they want to farm money.
Cannot come early enough just please don't be greedy. It has ruined live server let this be a fresh start not for only the players, for u as well.
"please don't be greedy", are we talking about the same NCSOFT here
One last chance i guess 😂@@sprachlos0032
You have learned NOTHING. What a waste.
You are making the same mistake as in the past, you are not listening to the community, you are destined for failure, modifying the original essence of the equipment progression game, congratulations...
delete what they did outside of the classic and change teams while there's still time.
collecting endless items is not fun
According to Korean players, they are deleting all negative feedback in KR. People are complaining on the forums that they are deleting posts about negative feedback. If this is true... welp
It's gonna fail unless you tone down the p2w lol. B&S failed the first time already because you got too greedy lol
Wait wait... did he just say "removing upgrade path and bringing armors with random stats". For me, it is a death game alteady after hearing this
ok you go
Bye bye 👋
I hope we get some updates about the Lifeskills, such as weapon crafting (Weapon skins). These skins were pretty dope back in the days. Like "Siren Illusion Weapon Skin".
rng stats? seriously so lame. Keep it upgradable like the old days. Forget that rng crap it's what made the game awful.
collecting endless items is not fun
i was coping so hard for bns classic until this dev video, i can see where this is going which makes me sad but atleast they spared me the time to try it and be disappointed for yet another time by this incompetent company.
I have the same feeling…..
When it will go out?
The comments are telling you what people want from this. DO NOT MAKE THIS PAY TO WIN or any other varioation of pay for power or pay for convience. Make Blade & Soul the great game it deserves to be by going against the modern mmo norm and make a fair, cosmetic cash shop.
All the guys have to do is not let it turn in to a pay for power nightmare and you could get some serious play time out of the game.
RNG of the item drops sound scary
Like... pay $$$ for items that allow you to reroll. Sounds like the guy who came up with the idea has got a raise
@@jsp3382 as long as you have the chance to do it with ingame stuff without paying its ok ... the game needs to monetize somehow ... developers and all the team wot work for free u know? allto i hope it would be like before when u dont get access to endgame stuff just by paying but trough raids and ingame farm.
Absolutely F no to the randomized stats, keep the upgrade paths just make them less ridiculous to get
collecting endless items is not fun. Fix invisible walls
I am a fan of this game and I have been playing it for 7 years now on the Korean server, then the Chinese server, then the server UE 2024 😃🥰😃😃🥰
I'm really looking forward to seeing you turn the game back into p2w and killing the game in 1 week.
Well if they're removing the upgrades is there a least an option to affix certain stats or just keep grinding until we get the proper equipment?
Random stats in classic lol im done
collecting endless items is not fun
awesome, bagus... from Indonesia love blade and soul
I hope the developers will see a lot of negative comments regarding equipment and abandon the idiotic idea of removing CLASSIC weapon upgrade paths.
Otherwise, it is a failure and not worth attention.
I can already feel them wiping their feet on my precious memories, smiling and bowing like in the video.
Some other comments have said, the original 1.0 version in korea didnt have weapon upgrading. The china version, then subsequently the ru then na/eu versions got those that we did. So technically the real "classic" system was the original kr one
@@IianaDRK And that's where the NEO part comes in: modern but reworketed paths. Even the Koreans want something similar to what we had in the past (2016)... It's China who don't want all that, and that's what we're going to get, China's demands... A flop before the release lol
collecting endless items is not fun. You had fun collecting endless items? thats why game dead
No one asking for basic stuff like fixing invisible walls and LFG system. yall ruined the game @@jsp3382
We need the old tree skills ten years ago
say what u want about the idea of random stats, ultimately infinite upgrade grind made it close to impossible for new players to hop in and enjoy the game and thats why the game is dead today. and if ur here u probably love the game for what it was way back when. i for one am hopeful, becouse if done at least semi right this change alone can breath now life to the game. and actually, if the rng ranges are small it will actually be fun and justified to grind a single dungeon to get that perfect roll to get 1% more dps, or just not care about that 1% and enjoy the game at the pace u like. the only thing that can make this kill the whole classic reboot is if they make the difference between low vs high rolls be like 20-30% apart in terms of effectiveness and then make it impossible to roll high without nc coin;) (which is likely, since history likes to repeat itself) time will tell. oh, and also spamming 30 different multiplicative dmg boosts across 15 different equipables without any thought making the power creep so stupid u cant event count the letters making up the dmg numbers let alone reading the number itself which was stupid AF. thats the second part of what killed bns. and also deleting content. and also simple mode.
Oh boy, random progression. More pay to progress. Yep that's exactly what the players who you've bled dry from your "game" want. There is a reason why the current game's playerbase is dead. This is it. New coat of paint, same old NCsoft
when is this game comming out?..or ist it ever comming out?
I have a question why the f would u not spend resources on creating new game or a sequel instead of BADLY redoing the same game for the nth time. Theres no bloody difference in this neo bs, even the extremely offputting low res rocks are still there since the BETA 13 years ago. Like literally id fire all of you.
I will play it as long is it doesn't require to spend Thousands and Thousands of dollars.
do something about the open world pvp too.
Include language in Spanish and Russian pls
Waiting 2 years in Europe..
Random stats…..will not waste my time again.
can you discuss the Pking and pvp
please make this game like L2, full open world pvp with karma flag pk system. as whats the point of action combat, just to smash dungeons?
no one has the time to change outfits as like that open world pvp will die very soon. and if you keep outfit, make it that if i pick cerulean I CANT CHANGE IT ANYMORE or will end up 100% of the server 1 faction LMAO
they won't.
@@SapiaNt0mata i know it was just some "in vain" request. But lets see i will play it for sure for 2 3 maybe 4 months before quit
What a big waste of time and resources when we already have a game called blade and soul that you could fix.
Did they improve or change the game engine?
that would cost money and require effort. So no
Also, the new interface in neo classic looks bad, I don’t like the feeling of broken glass and sharp corners. I want an old, bright and nice interface.
a question remain, how many country will be available for this game? aside from EU, NA and KR servers
Pvp
if it has no p2w it will be a hit
yo can yall drop the XML files for the RNG?
i'll fix the game for you
is there english translation? can we play now?
it's not released yet.
Yes
Game went down because of P2W.
Oof, the fabled HM Charm to boost your rng will be a thing. Ncoin only.
Let's hope that the developers will do everything possible for PvP to attract as many players as possible to the competitive mode...
one of the only commenters making sense
just dropped a comment on top ...ive vrite quite a bit about this ... hope you would find it interesting and support my idea ... maybe we can make that reach to the developers
😍
Absolutely, BnS have so much potential to have one of the best PvP's in the MMO genre. They should make a fair ranked system that will compell players to fight for the top 200 spots. They need many more servers around the EU though to provide maximum of ~40 ping to players to keep it extra fluid and competitive.
South America Server Please
Keep the upgrade paths please - NO to random stats, thats terribly dependant on RNG and people will eventually burn out from farming it.
collecting endless items is not fun
we already have burnout dude
LIVE 2.0, but hey, no more +1,+2... :PepeYes: _bruh_
@@MesmerAloofly i mean sure, but to me vision of an END is much more motivating than vision of pure RNG which I can get tomorrow or never
Venha BnS
Thank you for the hard work, looks beautiful, looking forward to it 🙂
Still holding out hope for Warlocks, at least.
I waiting this so much! (give me it in Russia)
I hope this one is more forgive to the high-ping of player from other region. It was unplayable with just 200+ ping. Seriously? PSO2 is 300+ping and it work perfectly, it all about the architecture at this point.
The last time I'm stop playing because the progression are tie to the weekly raid boss (Raven king) so solo player like me was no way to get the key items. I heard that they endup just selling in in the shop,I hope it not the case for this one as well.
oh snap upgrades only for badges 😍
collecting endless items is not fun
Bring back misty woods and blackrym :(
huh
huh
I have a feeling that they will announce release date in koreea and incoming in 2025 NA/EU ;)
LATAM SERVER?
p2w
not pvp
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Just nerf all fighter classes esp bm and bd
How about adding more servers and not having only two servers like now. Introduce servers which are strategically located across tue globe and players from anywhere can play with minimum lags.
Please fix invisible walls & Looking for Group system
Skill server-sided 2024....
SEA server?
If it has spear master class then I will care.
RNG upgrades? I was hyped till i saw this crap. Its gonna be DOA.
so no warlock class later? .-.
They said 7 classes, that's bm,lbm,sum,fm,kfm,sin,des. Also my guess is that release level cap is lvl45 like it was in 2016 BNS NA launch. E-fleet, Warlock and 50 patch will follow afterwards
just fix this glitchy mess pleaseeeeeeee old content is fine ; we DONT need new stuff Fix old stuff please
Fix old stuff please
Please fix invisible walls pleaseeeeeeeeeeee stop adding more items to upgrade
please no more infinite upgrade we just want the game to work!
JUST DELETE F8
-_- thats your solution? you even know how many pvp players quit this game. no wonder its dead
@@MesmerAlooflygame its dead cuz of p2w, complete random dungeon simulator, open world pvp dead, arena dead
I ment f8 for dungeons, let people teleport to them not just enter f8 end exit after 6h.
i know how many but still arena is optional, game should focus more around open world pvp
The game is dead because of ncsofts doing. They don't listen, and never will.@@MesmerAloofly
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WOW SUCH HARD WORK
and still on live, since ue4 launch face animations remain broken!
Please give us release date already
No
.... and then we will ruin it with p2w