Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with the .22-250. I have held admiration for its performance over the years, primarily when used against predators. Having a round that is capable of 1/2 moa is about as good as it gets for long range shooting. My Savage .22-250 has a 1 in 12 twist as well. the Hornady 22-250 Rem 50 gr V-Max Superformance. It's rated muzzle velocity of 4000 fps, 1776 ft/sec.
When I qualified on the 600 yd range at the local club I used 52 gr hollow points and 36 gr IMR4064, Remington 700 Varminter. Have since standardized on 38 gr H380 (ball powders meter accurately so no trickling needed to get an exact weight). That charge with whatever 50-55 gr bullets I'm using. Reloading doesn't really get much simpler than that.
I don't know how old your video is but I like your video you just made about the 22 250 it's a fine rifle and I've done a lot of reloading myself and I know what you mean appreciate you
Yeah! I have killed a lot of deer with my 22-250's through the years. I have a bergara b14 hunter now and that thing will shoot let me tell ya. The longest shot on whitetails that I have took is 252yrds, and there's been several times at that range because it is where the corn pile is. And it's legal in GA.
Since starting to watch your videos, its been about a year or more now, I have been inspired to buy a 22-250 and got a Savage 12 which I absolutely love to shoot now, thank you for an inspiring video.
Most people are not as pricise in their language as you are. Thumbs up i love my rifles in there inherently accurate cartridges bot the longest kills i have made are only 320 yards or so.
Thank you so much. My first 22-250 was purchased in 1977, a Ruger #1B, It won me several, shall we say wagers... I had to sell it, but I felt so bad that I went out and bought a left handed 700 and re-barreled it since I couldn't find the one with the left-hand action... None of my 700's have ever had anything but hand loads run through them, I even had one of them rechambered into the AI version of the cartridge, they all have stainless barrels, cleaning is a dream. I never exceeded the regular max. recommendations though and still shoot it today. I'm 68 now and having a hard time getting around but still love my 22-250's thanks again...
I use a Bluetooth headset at work and just put my phone in the drawer. I listen to your videos like others listen to their musics, except I gain so much more knowledge.
i want to first say that i am not a known shooter.. at all !! but i can shoot very well..i now am a big fan of yours..i have a 22-250 h&r .. maybe not the gratest gun in the world but i do awsome things with this gun., in hunting my biggest thing to say is one shot one kill...i love single shot rifles..i can reach out 300 yards + and hit very well..at the same time i would like to say that i can reach out to 150 + with a marlin 20 that was made in 1969 ..(2" or less) i dont know how i can do it but i do.. i want to thank you for this video . i love to know things about the things i own . i could not find out to much about the 22-250 and now know more than i did and love this gun even more..people like you are not going to be around soon because nobody will take the time to teach .. i would love to meet you in person some day but that will never happen .. to have a coffie and talk would be one of the grate things in my life..i going to fallow your videos when i can..i dont get on this p.c very much ..i also dont see very many people do to me building a place on our land that is very self surporting..dont like people now adays .. to much disrespect ..thanks again and hope to see more and learn more from you soon.
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Balistically speaking I have nothing against the 22-250 or the 220 Swift but the cost is far to high. For vermin control a .222 or .223 AR-15 platform is probably a better choice. At least ammo is easy to find.
Hello I just bought a 22/250 and I can not believe how accurate this rifle is. This rifle went right to the top of the list on most accurate and how it proforms is my line up. Love your videos Great view.
SS-50-CAL 3232 I hear ya. I was never a fan of the 22 cals. I used my 243 for coyotes/varmint control. I also wasn't a fan of savage. So a savage model 12 in 22-250 came up on sale. I saw the price and figured worst case scenario if I didn't like it I could sell it and make a small profit. Long story short it's my favourite rifle and I sold both my Remington's to buy 2 more savages,and a model 70 in 300wsm. And I haven't looked back.
SS-50-CAL 3232 yeah it’s unreal how accurate this cartridge is. I was completely sold on it when I saw a friend of my dad’s shooting coke bottle caps at 300 yards in the mid 1970’s. And it has only got better and better since then.
@@klevee6076 Yep, don't know until you try it. So much fun to shoot. AND a M70 in 300wsm!?! I bought my son a Winchester M70 300wsm, liked it so much, I now have two! Loaded for 180gn and 130gn, both great, both the best calibers ever.
This series on different calibers is more fun for me than "Saturday Night at the Movies" used to be when I was a kid! Would be interested on your thoughts on the 35 Remington.
Edward Barker 35 Rem. in a Marlin 36/336 is one of the best deer, bear, hog cartridges. I get 1" groups at 100 yards with mine (200 grain round nose). And, don't forget the Hornady Leverevolution ammo.
Great video! Your knowledge on firearms and ballistics is truly amazing. I could listen to you ( and learn greatly from your knowledge) for hours on end. Thank you for educating a lot of you tube ( experts) on the great 22-250 and how there have been so many cartridges that come along to challenge it and most fade away while the 22-250 just keeps doing what it has done for almost 90 years now. (Wildcat since 1935) Which is still setting the standard for twenty caliber cartridges. And thanks officially setting the record straight about it being a barrel burner which it is definitely not. Sadly there’s not many people left with the knowledge that you have about firearms in general. Too many so called experts now get hung up on just a few calibers or a couple of manufacturers. Much respect sir! And also, beautiful stainless bull barrel 250 you are holding.
Stumbled upon this video after watching your vid on primers. Sir, you've done it yet again!! Fantastic information about my current favourite calibre. I own a Tikka T3 Lite in 22-250 and observe the shooting discipline to which you alluded. At the range I fire 5 shots in about 5 minutes before placing the rifle in the shade, action open or bolt removed and in "chimney posture" for at least 10 minutes. The Lite barrel cools quite quickly but time is utilised by analysing the group or my shooting habits and procedures (even today with a shooting history going back to my preteen years). My scope is zero'd for 275yds which gives me what we call fur shots (fur inbetween 2MoA mark above and 2MoA mark below) from 0 to 300yds, basically point blank. I bought the rifle several years ago while I was terribly ill and looking down the "no much longer to go" alley, I wasn't reloading at that stage as I was too ill, relying on others to drive me to (and from) the range or shooting position for pests. Could not walk more than 25yds without a rest. Anyway, even though I had my other calibres, I couldn't shoot them because I was so enthralled by the 22-250 I couldn't put it down, well, except for my pea rifles, lol. Now, thankfully I've been given the "All Clear" after undergoing some pretty nasty treatment, hopefully it sticks. Am now back to reloading for it and 3 other calibres after a bit of a break, but with the plethora of projectiles available in .224, I've had 2 failures to stabilise a couple of Nosler projectiles, their Custom Competition 52gn (0.711") and the 55gn Varmageddons FB Tipped (0.811") in the 14" twist barrel. I am assuming that the moment between the CoG and CoP is too great to stabilise using the 14" twist. Currently trialling Australian powder (ADI Bench Mark 2) equivalent to BENCHMARK or IMR3031, but will be also trialling another powder (ADI AR2208) equivalent to Varget or IMR4064. I have found that the reloads do not heat the barrel as quickly as the commercial rounds, but still follow my regime of 5 shots then rest. Load profiles used for development are basically lowest listed up to 0.5gns below maximum listed and have yet to observe any signs of pressure. At the range I shoot with really good people, absolutely true blue characters and scared the begeezus out of them when I turned up with a muzzlebrake fitted. They hadn't noticed it as I setup, and after first shot, talk about "yoiks" lmao! It is a HSS clamp on, and took the recoil from negligible to downright embarrassing, lol, but that wasn't the point of the exercise. On the day, we had 2 X 243 and 1 X 6.5 - 55 shooters on the mound, ear protection on and I couldn't stop laughing, my "gotcha" moment. They hadn't worried with me shooting without the MB, so we decided to do an experiment. We lined the shooters up, the 2 X 243's then the 6.5 then the 22-250 with MB furthest away. I was approximately 50yds from the 243s, to the side, about 80yds from the 22-250. The 243s sounded quite "cultured", the 6.5 was a bit angry, then the 22-250 went off. Talk about overwhelming, wow, the MB certainly redirects a lot of noise. I haven't found any noticeable difference directly behind as the shooter, but stone the crows, the side nodes certainly tell a story. I love reloading, and now that I'm recovering, have found that it directs attention away from my (hopefully cured) condition. Again, thank you very much for this informative video, very, very enjoyable. (Sometimes people call me "'Avachat", lol, work part-time in our local gun shop)
I had a heavy barrel varmint special 22-250 also. It was an awesome rifle shooting 1/2" groups on factory ammo. Unfortunately I sold it because I bought a sako AII hunter with a shillen barrel that shoots factory ammo through the same hole.
I have watched many of your video's and some I have watched multiple times. After watching your 22-250 video I bought one. I have been wanting one for years. I watched your video on choosing a rifle scope and feel like I made a great choice. Thanks for your time and thanks for your service.
I really like a 1:12 twist for 223 and 22-250. Unfortunately you can’t find them anymore. All these manufacturers are going with faster twist and really don’t care for them.
To my knowledge, non-AR rifles are still commonly made with conventional slow twist rates, typically with 1:14 for the 22-250. Much misunderstanding exists concerning the fast 1:7 twist used in military rifles that may or may not have anything to do with the actual caliber. Two specific issues drove the need for 1:7 military twist: 1. extremely long, low density, alloy core penetrating bullets, and 2. extremely short barrels of low resulting velocity that develop low RPM. For those who use standard lead core bullets in 16 or 18 inch barrels, 9 or 10 inch twist is fine. Stability is all about barrel length (RPM) and bullet length. None of that fast twist logic applies to 22 inch barrels. In fact, even a 20 inch barrel with a 7 inch twist simply will cause accuracy problems with many 55 grain lead core bullets because the bullet deforms from excessive RPM.
@@GunBlue490 thanks for the reply. I have a cz I purchased years ago, 527 in 223 with a 1:12 twist. It constantly maintains a 3/4 or 1/2 group at 100 yards depending on how good I do that day. That’s using hornady 55 grain v-max production ammo, it’s great. I picked up a couple of 22-250 this last 18 months. They have 1:14 twist. With the limited supply of available production ammo in this state, blue state. It has been difficult to find one that will group less then 1” at 100 yards. I do have the ability to reload but I find it very tedious and don’t enjoy doing it. So I prefer to find a production ammo that would work. But as my search continues more then likely time will force me into having to reload if I want to use one of the 22-250’s for coyotes.
So what is the verdict with the heavier bullets, 60gr+? 1-12 twist , makes me wonder about the new copper and alloy bullets that are longer also. And thank you for the time that you take to impart the knowledge that you have acuired.
Very interesting. Back around 1967-68 I used to varmint hunt with a gunsmith who had a .220 Swift. Some of his loads on a humid summer day would leave a vapor trail across an alfalfa field.
I've seen that with the 22-250, when my dad tried thin jacketed SX style varmint bullets. When they didn't come apart in flight, they would disintegrate on the target and would only leave a spray stain the other side of the cardboard target box! Talk about molten lead in flight!
My friend Josh purchased a .17 WSM semi-auto shortly after they came on the market for coyote control on his farm back home. In short order he discovered that the hype about the round was mostly just that, hype, and after loosing several coyotes that he knew beyond a shadow of a doubt he had hit placed it in his gun safe and pulled a .22-250 manufactured some forty years prior out and with fresh ammo began to thin the pack, or packs, out that had been attacking his cows and goats. The .22-250 drops the biggest coyotes in their tracks with authority according to Josh, and he keeps it close to hand in his house and in his pickup when driving over his property in case he spots a coyote or coyotes.
17 wsm will put a coyote down no problem. The issue is people shooting past their effective range. You can hit them at 200-300 yards but the 17 wsm is best under 200 for larger game. And all the center fires are more effective but then you have ammo cost etc.
@@Physics072 This.... Ive killed 50 coyotes in the last 2years with the 17WSM.. I wonder if the original commenter knows what hes talking about? Semi auto, in 17wsm???? The 17HMR is avaliable in semi auto but only bolt actions in the 17WSM. People keep confusing the 17 HMR with the WSM, and the WSM is a whole different ballgame, blowing a coyotes chest cavity into mush. And ,yea I know there is a company that builds an AR platform on the 17 WSM, but its $1700 dollars. And I doubt his "buddy" has one of them.. That said I have a 22-250 too. and its a great round.
@@TheMitchbassman There are two or three 17 WSM semi auto. Franklin AR type and Volquartsen which is a 2,000 gun. He probably was talking about a 17 HMR. Never said a 22-250 could not kill a coyote, so can a .243, 30-30, 30-06 etc. I think the .204 ruger is a nice coyote round, does not tear up the pelts like a .243 does and is super long range.
I have a 1966 rem 700 in 22-250, a ruger #1 again 22-250, BOTH 3.5X10X50 vx3 leupold. AND a savage axis, (inherited it from my late cousin-- cheep norinco scope still on it) That damn cheep axis outshoots them (triggers are too stiff on the high end rifles). My brother's ruger Hawkeye 243, with thr varmageddon 55 grain, is incredibly accurate, and that bullet basically turns the 243 INTO a 22-250. (So I bought a 220 swift).
I have a Ruger 77V in .22-250. I also has a Model 1 in .22-250. The 77V is so much more accurate than the Model 1. I gave the Model 1 to my son. H380 with any 55 grain bullet..
I was fortunate to know JE GEBBY IN TUCSON ARIZONA HE COPYRIGHTED THE 22VARMITER, WHICH BECAME THE 22-250 KILLED MY 1ST MULEDEER WITH GEBBY 1 SER# GENIOUS FELLA
Hi mate, a good informative vid congrats...I have a sako 85 varmint in 22-250 with a 14 twist which I use on rabbits from 400-600yds with Winchester Ballistic silvertips in 55gn. Have put up several vids on my channel , check it out and tell me what you think. All the best from South Australia.
+SA Feral Shooter Very fine shooting! My Sako Vixen .222 Rem. was my first bolt action rifle back in the 60s, and convinced me of its worth. Several Sakos later, I still consider them the finest and most classy rifle in the industry.
Was sort of unsure about the 22-250 until listening to this guy. Purchased the Savage Axis ll XD on Monday, can't wait until it gets here. A much needed Predator/Varmit tool.
It me again, during FPF final protective fire, you fire until failure, meaning they are in the wire, other than that you punch that barrel every 5 shots w/wire brush light oil&dry, and ready to fire, people will not listen to you, they know better, when that barrels fouls out , man you hit,n all over county, so they shoot more and faster, then turn to you, and ask what,s wrong?
I'm very interested in the answer here as well! I also, don't mind showing my ignorance. Lol. I've seen some 55 and 58 grain bullets around and just over 4000 fps in .243. I think maybe they are barrel burners? Dunno....243 is already a hot rod. But yes, thank you for posing my question better than I could have. Lol.
243 probably costs just a bit more to shoot and reload for. Slightly more recoil than the 22-250. The 22-250 is the more accurate of the two, although the 243 is very accurate in its own right. I just consider the 22-250 to be super accurate. Accuracy on a different level. The 243 is a great cartridge, but honestly I'm more of a quarter bore fan vs the 6mm cartridges. 257 Roberts is one of my favorites.
The first rifle I purchased at the tender age of 15, was a Rem 788 in 22-250, for a whopping sum, keep in mind it was brand new, for $75.00! What a shooter for about 3,000 rounds, then another was purchased, and another, I am now on my 4th. Plan on shooting it out as well. I've come to the conclusion you don't have to spend a bundle for a tack driver, my lastest is a Howa with a Nico Sterling, under $500 and shoots good enough to put dents in Prairie Dog towns. Shoot anything with it in 55 grainers, and you will see awesome violence!
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I've viewed several that I've owned. It's a very versatile and useful cartridge, but not in the same velocity class as the 22-250. In 24" inch barrels, and with the same bullets, the 22-250 is capable of up to 350 feet per second greater velocity. In AR-15 20 inch barrels, the difference is another 150 fps or more. In the typical 14 (with 2" welded flash hider) or 16 inch barrel, the 223 is a slowpoke, and up to 1,000 feet per second behind the 22-250. In a 24 inch varmint rifle, the 223 is a first class medium range 375+ yard gun for varmints. The 22-250 extends that range to over 450 yards. Both are great but not the same.
Great Point GunBlue490.... the guy stating there is no inherently accurate cartridges is so Wrong and you describe in excellent detail which the guy was wrong. Sir; with the invent of the internet there has also evolved so-so many self described experts in all fields. I appreciate your detailed talk regarding the .22-250 Rem. You Sir know your subject: My Remington 700 VSSF-P .22-250 Rem. is a tack driver. This rifle was built in 1998 and 1999 it came in calibers .22-250 and .220 swift. (VSSF-P) stood for V-varmint; S-stainless; S-synthetic stock >( H.S. Precision with an Aluminum Bedding Block; F-fluted barrel; P-ported barrel( the rifle came with and without the 26" Ported barrel. My rifle was .22-250 caliber an had the (LOUD) Ported barrel. I although out of practice from a bench can shoot golf balls at 400 yards all day long with factory ammo. It's my 2nd favorite rifle of all time! This rifle was the top of the line Remington firearm at the time of it's manufacturing and lead to the introduction of the Sendero Series. *My top Shooter of all time is a Steyr ProHunter in 7mm-08 which will shoot 3/8" groups at 300 yards all day long. I'll put my 7mm-08 Steyr up against a .308 any day with half the Recoil! I plan to enyoy your continued videos!
Thanks again, you helped me make up my mind about the Swift,. 22-250 it is would suit me better as I like to shoot often Have always watched the heat, it bothers me to see my friends just keep shooting round after round in a new gun.
Liked your video very much. I can tell you have a lot of practical and first hand knowledge about the .22-250. When I heard you mention that you previously owned a Ruger .22-250 I just had to say I am sorry you no longer have it. I bought a Ruger M77 chambered in .22-250 in 1988. It was the first hunting rifle I had ever bought less than 25 caliber. It soon became my favorite and shortly after the only gun I hunted with. It was potent enough to take down white tail deer with high neck shots from very long range and was also accurate enough to varmint hunt out to and beyond 700 yards. I love the .22-250. It is the best all around small caliber round available in my opinion.
I really enjoy your "fireside chats". Thanks for inviting us in to your home. I am learning a lot about firearm history, care and maintenance. Only thing missing is a single malt scotch and a nice cigar which I bring to your chats. Thanks!
I have discovered myself over 56 years of being a shooter along with cast bullet maker and handloader that accuracy doesn't just happen with every firearm you put on the bench , you have to make it happen .. For over 46 years now the 22/250 Rem has been one of my very favorite chamerings , accurate groups with my last one when it was new which got better and better as the barrel started to become broke in .. Sometimes i lap the bore on a rifle but not always as i fire it first to see how it will do on paper .. Among several other things i have discovered over the years , not every shooter does accuracy mean the same thing .. Some shooters i watched that were firing all their bullets into 2" @ 100 yards and said that's pretty good accuracy .. With the 22/250 Rem i really enjoy seeing all the bullet holes touching each other or better than that, it's a skill i have to work at to make this happen, once my brass has been prepped and load developed i go from that point .... Not every session on the bench is perfect , some are better than others and it shows on the paper .. Excellent ctg and will be for many years to come...
Norman Mallory I agree. This one was an acceptably good shooter from the box, but improved notably after epoxy bedding and freefloating. I wasn't crazy about the crowning method, so I turned a new crown, too. It shines brightly with IMR4320 and Sierra 50 grain Blitz King bullets with little variation across all charge weights tested, up to published maximum, where it performs best, averaging .550", and occasionally better, which I consider pretty good for the caliber. In my commentary, I stated that it has a 12 inch twist, as stated in the ad literature. In fact, I measured it to reveal a standard 14 inch, which pleases me.
I’ve watched about all your videos, I know this is a older one but good one as usual. Really enjoy your videos and gaining some of your knowledge you share.
Many years ago I lent my buddy my 06 to go hunting deer with me as he never deer hunted before and wanted to begin... I had a 700 BDL chambered in 22-250 heavy barrel gem that I used for varmint hunting so I toted that. I didn't care if I was successful, I wanted him to take a deer however it turned out it was me that got lucky and at about 100 yards I shot and took a deer. When It was hit the deer jumped straight up and crashed straight back down..... dead !! ...the man that cut that deer up ( he makes incredible sausage is why I have that part done), handed me what had to be the wrong deer, he said "no it's the right deer and your lucky that deer had skin on it because that was about all that was holding it together!, blood pudding with bone and lead frags all through it, what in hell did you shoot it with?!...I replied, a 22-250 and I guess it's the lightning that kills, not the thunder....... God Bless
I have watched your both lectures on the 22-250. For about a year I have searched out a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 22-250. I check every website that I know. Nothing. I have found a Remington 700 CDL SF in new condition to be sold at a local auction next week. I am wondering how your Remington 700 CDL SF 22-250 shoots ( how accurate) and why you changed to a Winchester model 70 for a video shooting session. This Remington won't be cheap. It will probably sell for way over the original price especially that it was only offered in this configuation for a short time, I believe 2012. Please , if you will, convince me that I won't be buying a pig in a poke that will need several gunsmith upgrades to make it shoot like your Winchester. I have never been a fan of Remington compared to the Winchester model 70. For deer hunting here in Pennsylvania I have always used my Winchester Pre-64 Featherweight in .308 and later a Steyr Mannllicher Carbine. Both still shoot nickel size groups. Is It a smart move to purchase this Remington 700 CDL SF. If not I will continue searching for a Winchester FN model 70. Thank you!!!
@@bobfegley1485too much, I wouldn’t shy away from any rifle chambered in 22-250. No need to spend close to 2000 dollars for a good shooter. Happy hunting!
Talked to 2 different accuracy gunsmith both claim the 220 swift had a slight accuracy edge over the 22-250. That is a claim I can't substantiate. I do have a Hart barreled 220 Swift that shoots many different loads under 1/2 inch groups. The worst loads I've tested still shot under an inch. Only loaded Nosler BT , Berger and Sierra bullets with 4064 and 4895 powders. Most accurate rifle I ever owned.
I don't know what their perspective is, but I would certainly have to disagree with those assessments. I've years of experience with both rounds and I know what they do. The .220 Swift is indeed a fabulously accurate cartridge, without question, which I reviewed elsewhere. Historically however, while it was murderous on distant varmints, the Swift never gained any recognition among competition shooters, while the .22-250 certainly had a substantial following in its day. Even today, one may find someone behind a .22-250 at a benchrest match, doing quite well in sporter class. The Swift has always been at its top accuracy game with near maximum loads, which impart tremendous accuracy limitations with regards to violent barrel vibration, even with very heavy barrels. It's a Johnny One Note and does not favor reduced loads at all. The .22-250 has instead a solid reputation as a versatile cartridge with accuracy potential that spans velocities from very mild .223-like, to top end, near Swift speeds. Though certainly not a competition threat these days, most well made .22-250 sporter rifles with standard weight barrels can turn in sub 1/2" groups without much fuss, and it's not uncommon for factory guns to shoot 3/8" regularly, with occasional 1/4" one-holers. In fact, my Portugal manufactured Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with its 22 inch ultra slender barrel is in the latter category, and isn't fussy about loads. I once owned a Bicentennial year Ruger 77 varmint model that consistently threaded five Sierra flat based bullets into quarter inch holes. Though it is not as harsh on barrels as was often claimed, the Swift did indeed burn barrels faster than other rifles, and much of the problem was due to its need for full throttle loads, and the heat such large quantities of powder create. When it comes to heating up a barrel, there's a substantial difference between 35 grains of powder in a full house .22-250 and 42 grains in the Swift. When it comes to top end loads, the .22-250 is less than 100 feet per second behind with comparable bullets, and being more accurate, overcomes such a small velocity difference with easier hitting ability. The Swift is one of my favorite rounds, and I love shooting it, but I could not place it in the same accuracy league as the .22-250.
@@GunBlue490 I have no disagreement with your reply . The first center fire rifle ever shot and reloaded for was back in 1972. I was 14 year old . My mother bought it for my dad as a Christmas gift. He still owns the rifle . A Remington 700 ADL standard 24 in. barrel plain Jane wood stock. Pet load is 32gr. 4064 , Norma brass , 63gr. Sierra Simi point. Would tape a penny to target at tape measured 100 yds. Could hit a penny more often than not. Back then Penny's were worth more. Got expensive for a 14 year old. Had a nice 3x9 Leupold. Rifle was a $100 and scope was $100. That was a Lot of money back then for a working man. Remain hooked on rifles and reloading ever since. Many years later I served as the rifle range officer at local gun club. Would have public sight in days before deer season. I help sight in many rifles over the years. For some reason the 270 and 22-250 seemed to group best. The two gunsmiths that claimed the 220 swift had an accuracy edge over the 22-250 was Harold Broughton and Kenny Jarrett. That was sometime back in the late 80s. Now comparing my dad's 22-250 to my 220 swift is not a fair comparison. 22-250 is off the shelf rifle with no modifications. The 220 swift is a heavy barrel blueprinted action in an HS pres
Back in 1977 When I first got into Varmint Hunting, I bought a NIB Rem 700 Varmint Special HB Rifle in the 22/250 Caliber, That a Friend Suggested to me that i buy, And for the last 30 plus years, This Cartridge & Rifle has served me well above it's Reviews, With some good Hand loads, It is outstanding etc.
Actually I bought a 5mm back it the early 70's as I was having trouble killing groundhogs with my faithful Nylon 66. I soon found that was all that much better so I bought a Remington 788 in,22-250 I had that a year or so and Ruger came out with that 77 and i was hooked. I traded the 788 for that Ruger with the "Made In the 200th year of American Liberty" on the barrel. 22-250 0f course. Sadly a few years and a divorce later I sold it to a gun shop. I have always regretted that.
I still have & use my Nylon 66 Apache Black with the Chrome Barrel bought it NIB back in 1974 for Apx $75.00 Bucks What a deal back then Love this rifle etc.
I never had any of the Trigger Problems with my Rem Varmint Special 700, Like they are saying about the Rifle firing by it self by just touching the Bolt etc & Ive shot this Rifle Hundreds of times in the Woodchuck & coyote Woods never any trigger problems etc.
MyREDTAIL, a sad note from Montana... My friend had a 700. One day prepping for an elk hunt he loaded a round then decided he needed something from his truck. He laid the rifle across the seat of his pickup to fetch his item and it went off shooting a hole through his opposite-side truck door. It spooked him something fierce. He swore he had made no mistake/user error. He later sold that 700 to another man. That fella one day had the same thing happen but killed a kid and that rifle became the basis of the big lawsuit against Remington. My friend has forever regretted his selling the gun, carried much grief & guilt. I cannot imagine the horror the man who killed the kid felt. The gun going off was one issue. Where the muzzle was pointed is what caused the death. Inexcusable firearm handling PERIOD. So many love that 700 for good reasons, but for that reason I'll never own a 700. Besides, I love my numerous Rugers (2 No.1Bs (.270 & .22-250) [BOTH OUTSTANDING & MOST PRIZED!], a M77 MKII Stainless (.270), 3 Americans (.270 & .30-06 All-Weather & a Predator .22-250), a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight (.270), and my old reliable 1903A3 (.30-06) without getting into the many ARs (.308s & 5.56s) Yep, I too love those flat shooters!
Wondering if you was on the old go go varmint board? did so many half inch groups with my 22-250's at 200 yards. h-380 with custom bullets or just the green box 52 grainers always worked well
This video prompted me to think about this rifle in another caliber. Actually I'm all hot to get a Win Supergrade in a 6.5 Creed or maybe a 308. But there is not a Rem 700 stainless in those calibers for sale in the country. Nor is there a supergrade except on gun broker and I'm just not going to go that route. I've been talking to most of the good gun shops in all of Texas and I'm silly enough right now to travel all day to get to any shop who has what I want. Nothing available. It could be years before this supply chain situation turns around. Very bad situation. I wish the distributors would quit letting the internet seller/scalpers horde the best guns .... thereby seriously driving up prices.
Excellent video sir,, I’ve been handloading 308 for years and new to the 22-250. I just picked up a bergara b14 hmr and bought all my components and waiting for the ups man to bring my lapua brass. I feel like a little kid with a balloon. Seen some powders that I’m using with 308 are compatible with the 250. I coyote hunt mostly but want to ghillie up and get some crows on the ground
Bring your 22lr to the range. And shot it during the cooldown period of the 22-250 or any centrefire. You practice the fundamentals and you save your barrel.
I have been researching the 243 as I was thinking about re-barreling my .308 bolt when the barrel gets on in age. So when I saw your video and it gave me a pause about my plans, and maybe rethink plans of re-barreling vs purchasing another rifle,
Big gee the 243 win is a very versatile caliber, I've used 58 grn hornady superformance for red fox to 105 grn Amaxfor target ,my best reloads are 70 grn Serra blitz kings with h380 for varmints to 100 nosler partition or nosler 90 grn ballistic tip as my do it all load my Remington 700 BDL isn't fussy it's a do it all caliber for most hunting atvb Steve
Guess he never has had a 6mm Br to play with. If you consider .024 groups not inherently accurate I guess we need smaller calibers. 1/2" at 300 yds is more than adequate for most shooting. I have hit targets at 700 yds with one rifle I own. Now my 338 Lapua is good for a 12" x12" steel at 1500 yds. More than adequate for most snipers.
I like to think in terms like this. Ammunition of any caliber , bullet type and who and how loaded I think is precise , consistent and compatible with the rifle and more importantly the rifle barrel. The more this can be refined and achieved the better, when used in a well made presion rifle ( I believe the accuracy is in the rifle) by a competent shooter who does so regularly and correctly is when it all comes together each doing it s purpose. I understand their ate calibers and variations of such that have proven positive results. Evee wonder why the .243 a fine shooting caliber. Isn t used or prob would be successful competing against the 6 ppc. Accuracy or precision , and I give more accuracy to the rifle and precision to the ammo.
very well done. I enjoyed learning more about this round and the 700. I just recently acquired a 700 and don’t load yet, so I am trying to select a few commercial loads to try. My 700 has a 26” barrel with a 14:1 twist . I have a box of 55 gr PPU. Would like a couple more suggestions. thank you
The .22-250 is king but in these mountains of VA the CZ 527 .223 is ideal for my needs. I just use it to mop up chucks around my house and the occasional fox where 200yds is a far shot. If I had open meadows to hunt where 300yds+ would be the normal I’d definitely invest in a .22-250.
I had the rifle like that for the 280 Remington...100 anniversary edition. And I put the 100 anniversary leupold scope on it. I miss that gun so bad. There's just guns you should never part with!!!!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with the .22-250. I have held admiration for its performance over the years, primarily when used against predators. Having a round that is capable of 1/2 moa is about as good as it gets for long range shooting. My Savage .22-250 has a 1 in 12 twist as well. the Hornady 22-250 Rem 50 gr V-Max Superformance. It's rated muzzle velocity of 4000 fps, 1776 ft/sec.
Once again you provide very good information about the history and facts that keep this sport alive.
Thank You !
When I qualified on the 600 yd range at the local club I used 52 gr hollow points and 36 gr IMR4064, Remington 700 Varminter. Have since standardized on 38 gr H380 (ball powders meter accurately so no trickling needed to get an exact weight). That charge with whatever 50-55 gr bullets I'm using. Reloading doesn't really get much simpler than that.
I’ve got a New England 22-250 handi-rifle. Best rifle in the planet. You just pull the trigger and the animal drops.
Always Great!!
Dude knows what he's talking about. Respect. 22-250 is a fantastic round. Love it.
I don't know how old your video is but I like your video you just made about the 22 250 it's a fine rifle and I've done a lot of reloading myself and I know what you mean appreciate you
@@lonewolf286 A friend of mine called it a tack driver. Yep. That pretty much describes it. It just goes where you point it.
Yeah! I have killed a lot of deer with my 22-250's through the years. I have a bergara b14 hunter now and that thing will shoot let me tell ya. The longest shot on whitetails that I have took is 252yrds, and there's been several times at that range because it is where the corn pile is. And it's legal in GA.
Since starting to watch your videos, its been about a year or more now, I have been inspired to buy a 22-250 and got a Savage 12 which I absolutely love to shoot now, thank you for an inspiring video.
Most people are not as pricise in their language as you are. Thumbs up i love my rifles in there inherently accurate cartridges bot the longest kills i have made are only 320 yards or so.
I absolutely love my 22-250 in 1 in 8 twist fantastic rifle. Great deer rifle shooting the 70 grain triple shock barnes
waoooo lots of knowledge. ...great to see ppl like you still around
Thank you so much. My first 22-250 was purchased in 1977, a Ruger #1B, It won me several, shall we say wagers... I had to sell it, but I felt so bad that I went out and bought a left handed 700 and re-barreled it since I couldn't find the one with the left-hand action... None of my 700's have ever had anything but hand loads run through them, I even had one of them rechambered into the AI version of the cartridge, they all have stainless barrels, cleaning is a dream. I never exceeded the regular max. recommendations though and still shoot it today. I'm 68 now and having a hard time getting around but still love my 22-250's thanks again...
Favorite Bolt action riffle for me is 22-250
I love my 22-250. It’s so accurate that on a 100 yard range it almost becomes a bore to shoot. I think you need a 300+ yard range for the 22-250.
man i could listen to you allday 👍
Grab a second chair.I'll sit with you
hes a devotee
I use a Bluetooth headset at work and just put my phone in the drawer. I listen to your videos like others listen to their musics, except I gain so much more knowledge.
i want to first say that i am not a known shooter.. at all !! but i can shoot very well..i now am a big fan of yours..i have a 22-250 h&r .. maybe not the gratest gun in the world but i do awsome things with this gun., in hunting my biggest thing to say is one shot one kill...i love single shot rifles..i can reach out 300 yards + and hit very well..at the same time i would like to say that i can reach out to 150 + with a marlin 20 that was made in 1969 ..(2" or less) i dont know how i can do it but i do.. i want to thank you for this video . i love to know things about the things i own . i could not find out to much about the 22-250 and now know more than i did and love this gun even more..people like you are not going to be around soon because nobody will take the time to teach .. i would love to meet you in person some day but that will never happen .. to have a coffie and talk would be one of the grate things in my life..i going to fallow your videos when i can..i dont get on this p.c very much ..i also dont see very many people do to me building a place on our land that is very self surporting..dont like people now adays .. to much disrespect ..thanks again and hope to see more and learn more from you soon.
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Got a 1941 mod 70 win in 22 varminter cal with a J.E.Gibby heavy barrel 1-14 twist..
Thank you sir! I have a Steyr SSG 69 in .22-250. Fuhgeddabouttit
Balistically speaking I have nothing against the 22-250 or the 220 Swift but the cost is far to high. For vermin control a .222 or .223 AR-15 platform is probably a better choice. At least ammo is easy to find.
That 22-250 that you have is really sweet! I love how those Remingtons look. I would really like to see a video on the 25-06. Thank you very much!
Hello I just bought a 22/250 and I can not believe how accurate this rifle is. This rifle went right to the top of the list on most accurate and how it proforms is my line up. Love your videos Great view.
SS-50-CAL 3232 I hear ya. I was never a fan of the 22 cals. I used my 243 for coyotes/varmint control.
I also wasn't a fan of savage.
So a savage model 12 in 22-250 came up on sale. I saw the price and figured worst case scenario if I didn't like it I could sell it and make a small profit.
Long story short it's my favourite rifle and I sold both my Remington's to buy 2 more savages,and a model 70 in 300wsm.
And I haven't looked back.
SS-50-CAL 3232 yeah it’s unreal how accurate this cartridge is. I was completely sold on it when I saw a friend of my dad’s shooting coke bottle caps at 300 yards in the mid 1970’s. And it has only got better and better since then.
@@klevee6076 Yep, don't know until you try it. So much fun to shoot. AND a M70 in 300wsm!?! I bought my son a Winchester M70 300wsm, liked it so much, I now have two! Loaded for 180gn and 130gn, both great, both the best calibers ever.
This series on different calibers is more fun for me than "Saturday Night at the Movies" used to be when I was a kid! Would be interested on your thoughts on the 35 Remington.
Edward Barker 35 Rem. in a Marlin 36/336 is one of the best deer, bear, hog cartridges. I get 1" groups at 100 yards with mine (200 grain round nose). And, don't forget the Hornady Leverevolution ammo.
Well my opinion is that the best deer hunting cartridge going. Period.
Great video! Your knowledge on firearms and ballistics is truly amazing. I could listen to you ( and learn greatly from your knowledge) for hours on end. Thank you for educating a lot of you tube ( experts) on the great 22-250 and how there have been so many cartridges that come along to challenge it and most fade away while the 22-250 just keeps doing what it has done for almost 90 years now. (Wildcat since 1935) Which is still setting the standard for twenty caliber cartridges. And thanks officially setting the record straight about it being a barrel burner which it is definitely not. Sadly there’s not many people left with the knowledge that you have about firearms in general. Too many so called experts now get hung up on just a few calibers or a couple of manufacturers. Much respect sir! And also, beautiful stainless bull barrel 250 you are holding.
My 22-250 with barnes tsx bullets is all i use for deer now. Puts them away like dynamite blew inside them!
Thats why i shoot them in the head, whats the point of a super accurate rifle if you aren't going to use it to advantage.
Stumbled upon this video after watching your vid on primers. Sir, you've done it yet again!!
Fantastic information about my current favourite calibre. I own a Tikka T3 Lite in 22-250 and observe the shooting discipline to which you alluded. At the range I fire 5 shots in about 5 minutes before placing the rifle in the shade, action open or bolt removed and in "chimney posture" for at least 10 minutes. The Lite barrel cools quite quickly but time is utilised by analysing the group or my shooting habits and procedures (even today with a shooting history going back to my preteen years). My scope is zero'd for 275yds which gives me what we call fur shots (fur inbetween 2MoA mark above and 2MoA mark below) from 0 to 300yds, basically point blank. I bought the rifle several years ago while I was terribly ill and looking down the "no much longer to go" alley, I wasn't reloading at that stage as I was too ill, relying on others to drive me to (and from) the range or shooting position for pests. Could not walk more than 25yds without a rest. Anyway, even though I had my other calibres, I couldn't shoot them because I was so enthralled by the 22-250 I couldn't put it down, well, except for my pea rifles, lol.
Now, thankfully I've been given the "All Clear" after undergoing some pretty nasty treatment, hopefully it sticks. Am now back to reloading for it and 3 other calibres after a bit of a break, but with the plethora of projectiles available in .224, I've had 2 failures to stabilise a couple of Nosler projectiles, their Custom Competition 52gn (0.711") and the 55gn Varmageddons FB Tipped (0.811") in the 14" twist barrel. I am assuming that the moment between the CoG and CoP is too great to stabilise using the 14" twist. Currently trialling Australian powder (ADI Bench Mark 2) equivalent to BENCHMARK or IMR3031, but will be also trialling another powder (ADI AR2208) equivalent to Varget or IMR4064. I have found that the reloads do not heat the barrel as quickly as the commercial rounds, but still follow my regime of 5 shots then rest. Load profiles used for development are basically lowest listed up to 0.5gns below maximum listed and have yet to observe any signs of pressure.
At the range I shoot with really good people, absolutely true blue characters and scared the begeezus out of them when I turned up with a muzzlebrake fitted. They hadn't noticed it as I setup, and after first shot, talk about "yoiks" lmao! It is a HSS clamp on, and took the recoil from negligible to downright embarrassing, lol, but that wasn't the point of the exercise. On the day, we had 2 X 243 and 1 X 6.5 - 55 shooters on the mound, ear protection on and I couldn't stop laughing, my "gotcha" moment. They hadn't worried with me shooting without the MB, so we decided to do an experiment. We lined the shooters up, the 2 X 243's then the 6.5 then the 22-250 with MB furthest away. I was approximately 50yds from the 243s, to the side, about 80yds from the 22-250. The 243s sounded quite "cultured", the 6.5 was a bit angry, then the 22-250 went off. Talk about overwhelming, wow, the MB certainly redirects a lot of noise. I haven't found any noticeable difference directly behind as the shooter, but stone the crows, the side nodes certainly tell a story.
I love reloading, and now that I'm recovering, have found that it directs attention away from my (hopefully cured) condition.
Again, thank you very much for this informative video, very, very enjoyable.
(Sometimes people call me "'Avachat", lol, work part-time in our local gun shop)
Been shooting my Remington 700 22-250 Varmint Special since 1974. Four shots I can cover with a dime. Accurate enough for me. 204 isn't bad either.
Browning BBR. 22-250 here mine touches hole
I had a heavy barrel varmint special 22-250 also. It was an awesome rifle shooting 1/2" groups on factory ammo. Unfortunately I sold it because I bought a sako AII hunter with a shillen barrel that shoots factory ammo through the same hole.
I’d love to hear this guy say ‘where are you rabbit’ while holding a shotgun
I have watched many of your video's and some I have watched multiple times. After watching your 22-250 video I bought one. I have been wanting one for years. I watched your video on choosing a rifle scope and feel like I made a great choice. Thanks for your time and thanks for your service.
I really like a 1:12 twist for 223 and 22-250. Unfortunately you can’t find them anymore. All these manufacturers are going with faster twist and really don’t care for them.
To my knowledge, non-AR rifles are still commonly made with conventional slow twist rates, typically with 1:14 for the 22-250.
Much misunderstanding exists concerning the fast 1:7 twist used in military rifles that may or may not have anything to do with the actual caliber. Two specific issues drove the need for 1:7 military twist: 1. extremely long, low density, alloy core penetrating bullets, and 2. extremely short barrels of low resulting velocity that develop low RPM. For those who use standard lead core bullets in 16 or 18 inch barrels, 9 or 10 inch twist is fine. Stability is all about barrel length (RPM) and bullet length. None of that fast twist logic applies to 22 inch barrels. In fact, even a 20 inch barrel with a 7 inch twist simply will cause accuracy problems with many 55 grain lead core bullets because the bullet deforms from excessive RPM.
@@GunBlue490 thanks for the reply. I have a cz I purchased years ago, 527 in 223 with a 1:12 twist. It constantly maintains a 3/4 or 1/2 group at 100 yards depending on how good I do that day. That’s using hornady 55 grain v-max production ammo, it’s great. I picked up a couple of 22-250 this last 18 months. They have 1:14 twist. With the limited supply of available production ammo in this state, blue state. It has been difficult to find one that will group less then 1” at 100 yards. I do have the ability to reload but I find it very tedious and don’t enjoy doing it. So I prefer to find a production ammo that would work. But as my search continues more then likely time will force me into having to reload if I want to use one of the 22-250’s for coyotes.
I never get tired of watching your channel
Thanks a lot for your extremely intelligent and common sense view on firearms. Love these talks.
So what is the verdict with the heavier bullets, 60gr+? 1-12 twist , makes me wonder about the new copper and alloy bullets that are longer also. And thank you for the time that you take to impart the knowledge that you have acuired.
Very interesting. Back around 1967-68 I used to varmint hunt with a gunsmith who had a .220 Swift. Some of his loads on a humid summer day would leave a vapor trail across an alfalfa field.
I've seen that with the 22-250, when my dad tried thin jacketed SX style varmint bullets. When they didn't come apart in flight, they would disintegrate on the target and would only leave a spray stain the other side of the cardboard target box! Talk about molten lead in flight!
You Sir are a natural resouce!!!!
I like my 22-250 but I like my 243 better.
Absolutely a great rifle and fantastic round. I've shot everything from gophers to big whitetail deer with one. Just place your shots.
Dad started me on a Remington 788 in .22-250 for Chucks. Wow. What a cartridge and rifle combo. Excellent video.
My friend Josh purchased a .17 WSM semi-auto shortly after they came on the market for coyote control on his farm back home. In short order he discovered that the hype about the round was mostly just that, hype, and after loosing several coyotes that he knew beyond a shadow of a doubt he had hit placed it in his gun safe and pulled a .22-250 manufactured some forty years prior out and with fresh ammo began to thin the pack, or packs, out that had been attacking his cows and goats. The .22-250 drops the biggest coyotes in their tracks with authority according to Josh, and he keeps it close to hand in his house and in his pickup when driving over his property in case he spots a coyote or coyotes.
17 wsm will put a coyote down no problem. The issue is people shooting past their effective range. You can hit them at 200-300 yards but the 17 wsm is best under 200 for larger game. And all the center fires are more effective but then you have ammo cost etc.
@@Physics072 This.... Ive killed 50 coyotes in the last 2years with the 17WSM.. I wonder if the original commenter knows what hes talking about? Semi auto, in 17wsm???? The 17HMR is avaliable in semi auto but only bolt actions in the 17WSM. People keep confusing the 17 HMR with the WSM, and the WSM is a whole different ballgame, blowing a coyotes chest cavity into mush. And ,yea I know there is a company that builds an AR platform on the 17 WSM, but its $1700 dollars. And I doubt his "buddy" has one of them.. That said I have a 22-250 too. and its a great round.
@@TheMitchbassman There are two or three 17 WSM semi auto. Franklin AR type and Volquartsen which is a 2,000 gun. He probably was talking about a 17 HMR.
Never said a 22-250 could not kill a coyote, so can a .243, 30-30, 30-06 etc.
I think the .204 ruger is a nice coyote round, does not tear up the pelts like a .243 does and is super long range.
I have a 1966 rem 700 in 22-250, a ruger #1 again 22-250, BOTH 3.5X10X50 vx3 leupold. AND a savage axis, (inherited it from my late cousin-- cheep norinco scope still on it)
That damn cheep axis outshoots them (triggers are too stiff on the high end rifles).
My brother's ruger Hawkeye 243, with thr varmageddon 55 grain, is incredibly accurate, and that bullet basically turns the 243 INTO a 22-250. (So I bought a 220 swift).
Great video, tons of info. Makes me glad I have recently dipped into the baptismal font of the 22-250.
I’d really like your take on the Ruger 204.
great vid if you cant sleep..sure cure for insomnia
I have a Ruger 77V in .22-250. I also has a Model 1 in .22-250. The 77V is so much more accurate than the Model 1. I gave the Model 1 to my son. H380 with any 55 grain bullet..
I was fortunate to know JE GEBBY IN TUCSON ARIZONA HE COPYRIGHTED THE 22VARMITER, WHICH BECAME THE 22-250 KILLED MY 1ST MULEDEER WITH GEBBY 1 SER# GENIOUS FELLA
Hi mate, a good informative vid congrats...I have a sako 85 varmint in 22-250 with a 14 twist which I use on rabbits from 400-600yds with Winchester Ballistic silvertips in 55gn. Have put up several vids on my channel , check it out and tell me what you think.
All the best from South Australia.
+SA Feral Shooter
Very fine shooting! My Sako Vixen .222 Rem. was my first bolt action rifle back in the 60s, and convinced me of its worth. Several Sakos later, I still consider them the finest and most classy rifle in the industry.
What is your opinion of the ruger hawkeye 77 rifles?
Between my rem222. My rem.223 savage 22,250..all 3 shoot 1/2 moa..... Elmer was right.only accurate guns are interesting. All my rounds are handloads
My favorite woodchuck round. Love my Weatherby Varmint Special. Thanks for the video, very detailed.
I just bought a 22-250 in Savage 110 put a Bushnell 4x12 scope on..Shoots very well, 1" group at a100yards,
I have .300 savage, 30-06, 30-30,,, love Em all but the .22 mag and 22-250 rule the ranch..unless you come in un invited. Then you meet ol 10.
Lol
Had mine in a bull barrell Sturm -Ruger with lots of gunsmithing on the side. Thing was an absolute tack driver. Wish I still had it.
Everyone who likes guns should listen to this gentleman *** excellent knowledge
Was sort of unsure about the 22-250 until listening to this guy. Purchased the Savage Axis ll XD on Monday, can't wait until it gets here. A much needed Predator/Varmit tool.
It me again, during FPF final protective fire, you fire until failure, meaning they are in the wire, other than that you punch that barrel every 5 shots w/wire brush light oil&dry, and ready to fire, people will not listen to you, they know better, when that barrels fouls out , man you hit,n all over county, so they shoot more and faster, then turn to you, and ask what,s wrong?
This question will probably show my ignorance, but I'm ok with that. I watched your 243 video too. What does the 22-250 do that the 243 won't do?
I'm very interested in the answer here as well! I also, don't mind showing my ignorance. Lol.
I've seen some 55 and 58 grain bullets around and just over 4000 fps in .243. I think maybe they are barrel burners? Dunno....243 is already a hot rod.
But yes, thank you for posing my question better than I could have. Lol.
243 probably costs just a bit more to shoot and reload for. Slightly more recoil than the 22-250. The 22-250 is the more accurate of the two, although the 243 is very accurate in its own right. I just consider the 22-250 to be super accurate. Accuracy on a different level. The 243 is a great cartridge, but honestly I'm more of a quarter bore fan vs the 6mm cartridges. 257 Roberts is one of my favorites.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
The first rifle I purchased at the tender age of 15, was a Rem 788 in 22-250, for a whopping sum, keep in mind it was brand new, for $75.00! What a shooter for about 3,000 rounds, then another was purchased, and another, I am now on my 4th. Plan on shooting it out as well. I've come to the conclusion you don't have to spend a bundle for a tack driver, my lastest is a Howa with a Nico Sterling, under $500 and shoots good enough to put dents in Prairie Dog towns. Shoot anything with it in 55 grainers, and you will see awesome violence!
What do you think of a Rem. 788 in 22/250? Don't hear much about a 788? Enjoy your video, kept them coming..
Uncles got a Thompson icon in .22-250 heavy barrel target stock and man what a laserbeam
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Always have wanted to build a 22-250 with a 8 twist barrel shooting 75-80gr match bullets to see how it would do as a mid-range prone gun.
I can't imagine hitting a golf ball at 300 yds.
An 8" plate at 100 yds is hard enough!
In other words my 22-250 will always out shoot me. Love your knowledge. SHOOT SAFE!!!!!!!!!
Thank you and God bless.
Hickok45 has said many times, most guns are more accurate than the people aiming them.
What’s your views on 223
I've viewed several that I've owned. It's a very versatile and useful cartridge, but not in the same velocity class as the 22-250. In 24" inch barrels, and with the same bullets, the 22-250 is capable of up to 350 feet per second greater velocity. In AR-15 20 inch barrels, the difference is another 150 fps or more. In the typical 14 (with 2" welded flash hider) or 16 inch barrel, the 223 is a slowpoke, and up to 1,000 feet per second behind the 22-250. In a 24 inch varmint rifle, the 223 is a first class medium range 375+ yard gun for varmints. The 22-250 extends that range to over 450 yards. Both are great but not the same.
This is the first of your videos I have watched thank you for your wisdom sir God bless you
Thank you sir. I'm going to load up some 55 and 60 grain bullets, now and see how it gies.
Thank you GunBlue. Your knowledge and insight is invaluable to all shooters.
I own a half dozen 22-250 s the most accurate one I have is REM mod 788
Great Point GunBlue490.... the guy stating there is no inherently accurate cartridges is so Wrong and you describe in excellent detail which the guy was wrong. Sir; with the invent of the internet there has also evolved so-so many self described experts in all fields. I appreciate your detailed talk regarding the .22-250 Rem.
You Sir know your subject:
My Remington 700 VSSF-P .22-250 Rem. is a tack driver. This rifle was built in 1998 and 1999 it came in calibers .22-250 and .220 swift. (VSSF-P) stood for V-varmint; S-stainless; S-synthetic stock >( H.S. Precision with an Aluminum Bedding Block; F-fluted barrel; P-ported barrel( the rifle came with and without the 26" Ported barrel. My rifle was .22-250 caliber an had the (LOUD) Ported barrel. I although out of practice from a bench can shoot golf balls at 400 yards all day long with factory ammo.
It's my 2nd favorite rifle of all time! This rifle was the top of the line Remington firearm at the time of it's manufacturing and lead to the introduction of the Sendero Series.
*My top Shooter of all time is a Steyr ProHunter in 7mm-08 which will shoot 3/8" groups at 300 yards all day long.
I'll put my 7mm-08 Steyr up against a .308 any day with half the Recoil!
I plan to enyoy your continued videos!
Thanks again, you helped me make up my mind about the Swift,. 22-250 it is would suit me better as I like to shoot often
Have always watched the heat, it bothers me to see my friends just keep shooting round after round in a new gun.
Liked your video very much. I can tell you have a lot of practical and first hand knowledge about the .22-250. When I heard you mention that you previously owned a Ruger .22-250 I just had to say I am sorry you no longer have it. I bought a Ruger M77 chambered in .22-250 in 1988. It was the first hunting rifle I had ever bought less than 25 caliber. It soon became my favorite and shortly after the only gun I hunted with. It was potent enough to take down white tail deer with high neck shots from very long range and was also accurate enough to varmint hunt out to and beyond 700 yards. I love the .22-250. It is the best all around small caliber round available in my opinion.
its a great round but very expensive 40 bucks for 20 shots...
engineering and metallurgery with great process of manufacturing create wanted results
will you please do a talk on the 7mm magnum...and its belt and constrast with new newer wildcat 7mm LRM
All .22 cal are great. I shoot them all. Great job.
Very much enjoy your videos and your no B.S. approach to delivering what you have learned.
I love this guy he knows guns I can listen to him all day
Absolute viewing pleasure
Greatly appreciated Sir
Thanks for explaining the impact of repeated firing on barrel deterioration and what happens. Around 27 minutes of the video.
I really enjoy your "fireside chats". Thanks for inviting us in to your home. I am learning a lot about firearm history, care and maintenance. Only thing missing is a single malt scotch and a nice cigar which I bring to your chats. Thanks!
Sounds great! The Scotch I can do, but the cigar will have to wait til I can get out to the barn. 🚬
your videos are very educational, I love watching them.
Great video! I never shoot more than 10 rounds at a time over 45 min and always clean the rifle after each session...
Charles Newton created the .250 Savage
I have discovered myself over 56 years of being a shooter along with cast bullet maker and handloader that accuracy doesn't just happen with every firearm you put on the bench , you have to make it happen ..
For over 46 years now the 22/250 Rem has been one of my very favorite chamerings , accurate groups with my last one when it was new which got better and better as the barrel started to become broke in .. Sometimes i lap the bore on a rifle but not always as i fire it first to see how it will do on paper ..
Among several other things i have discovered over the years , not every shooter does accuracy mean the same thing .. Some shooters i watched that were firing all their bullets into 2" @ 100 yards and said that's pretty good accuracy .. With the 22/250 Rem i really enjoy seeing all the bullet holes touching each other or better than that, it's a skill i have to work at to make this happen, once my brass has been prepped and load developed i go from that point .... Not every session on the bench is perfect , some are better than others and it shows on the paper .. Excellent ctg and will be for many years to come...
Norman Mallory
I agree. This one was an acceptably good shooter from the box, but improved notably after epoxy bedding and freefloating. I wasn't crazy about the crowning method, so I turned a new crown, too. It shines brightly with IMR4320 and Sierra 50 grain Blitz King bullets with little variation across all charge weights tested, up to published maximum, where it performs best, averaging .550", and occasionally better, which I consider pretty good for the caliber. In my commentary, I stated that it has a 12 inch twist, as stated in the ad literature. In fact, I measured it to reveal a standard 14 inch, which pleases me.
I’ve watched about all your videos, I know this is a older one but good one as usual. Really enjoy your videos and gaining some of your knowledge you share.
Many years ago I lent my buddy my 06 to go hunting deer with me as he never deer hunted before and wanted to begin... I had a 700 BDL chambered in 22-250 heavy barrel gem that I used for varmint hunting so I toted that. I didn't care if I was successful, I wanted him to take a deer however it turned out it was me that got lucky and at about 100 yards I shot and took a deer. When It was hit the deer jumped straight up and crashed straight back down..... dead !! ...the man that cut that deer up ( he makes incredible sausage is why I have that part done), handed me what had to be the wrong deer, he said "no it's the right deer and your lucky that deer had skin on it because that was about all that was holding it together!, blood pudding with bone and lead frags all through it, what in hell did you shoot it with?!...I replied, a 22-250 and I guess it's the lightning that kills, not the thunder....... God Bless
I like to have all of them special edition rifles from Remington I forgot how many rifles are they but they are Beautiful
I had one in 280 Remington once... I miss it dearly.
I have watched your both lectures on the 22-250. For about a year I have searched out a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 22-250. I check every website that I know. Nothing. I have found a Remington 700 CDL SF in new condition to be sold at a local auction next week. I am wondering how your Remington 700 CDL SF 22-250 shoots ( how accurate) and why you changed to a Winchester model 70 for a video shooting session. This Remington won't be cheap. It will probably sell for way over the original price especially that it was only offered in this configuation for a short time, I believe 2012. Please , if you will, convince me that I won't be buying a pig in a poke that will need several gunsmith upgrades to make it shoot like your Winchester. I have never been a fan of Remington compared to the Winchester model 70. For deer hunting here in Pennsylvania I have always used my Winchester Pre-64 Featherweight in .308 and later a Steyr Mannllicher Carbine. Both still shoot nickel size groups. Is It a smart move to purchase this Remington 700 CDL SF. If not I will continue searching for a Winchester FN model 70. Thank you!!!
it sold fir 1750,oo plus tax!
@@bobfegley1485too much, I wouldn’t shy away from any rifle chambered in 22-250. No need to spend close to 2000 dollars for a good shooter. Happy hunting!
5 seconds in and I get an ad. TH-cam is getting out of hand
Talked to 2 different accuracy gunsmith both claim the 220 swift had a slight accuracy edge over the 22-250. That is a claim I can't substantiate. I do have a Hart barreled 220 Swift that shoots many different loads under 1/2 inch groups. The worst loads I've tested still shot under an inch. Only loaded Nosler BT , Berger and Sierra bullets with 4064 and 4895 powders. Most accurate rifle I ever owned.
I don't know what their perspective is, but I would certainly have to disagree with those assessments. I've years of experience with both rounds and I know what they do. The .220 Swift is indeed a fabulously accurate cartridge, without question, which I reviewed elsewhere. Historically however, while it was murderous on distant varmints, the Swift never gained any recognition among competition shooters, while the .22-250 certainly had a substantial following in its day. Even today, one may find someone behind a .22-250 at a benchrest match, doing quite well in sporter class. The Swift has always been at its top accuracy game with near maximum loads, which impart tremendous accuracy limitations with regards to violent barrel vibration, even with very heavy barrels. It's a Johnny One Note and does not favor reduced loads at all. The .22-250 has instead a solid reputation as a versatile cartridge with accuracy potential that spans velocities from very mild .223-like, to top end, near Swift speeds. Though certainly not a competition threat these days, most well made .22-250 sporter rifles with standard weight barrels can turn in sub 1/2" groups without much fuss, and it's not uncommon for factory guns to shoot 3/8" regularly, with occasional 1/4" one-holers. In fact, my Portugal manufactured Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with its 22 inch ultra slender barrel is in the latter category, and isn't fussy about loads. I once owned a Bicentennial year Ruger 77 varmint model that consistently threaded five Sierra flat based bullets into quarter inch holes. Though it is not as harsh on barrels as was often claimed, the Swift did indeed burn barrels faster than other rifles, and much of the problem was due to its need for full throttle loads, and the heat such large quantities of powder create. When it comes to heating up a barrel, there's a substantial difference between 35 grains of powder in a full house .22-250 and 42 grains in the Swift. When it comes to top end loads, the .22-250 is less than 100 feet per second behind with comparable bullets, and being more accurate, overcomes such a small velocity difference with easier hitting ability. The Swift is one of my favorite rounds, and I love shooting it, but I could not place it in the same accuracy league as the .22-250.
@@GunBlue490 I have no disagreement with your reply . The first center fire rifle ever shot and reloaded for was back in 1972. I was 14 year old . My mother bought it for my dad as a Christmas gift. He still owns the rifle . A Remington 700 ADL standard 24 in. barrel plain Jane wood stock. Pet load is 32gr. 4064 , Norma brass , 63gr. Sierra Simi point. Would tape a penny to target at tape measured 100 yds. Could hit a penny more often than not. Back then Penny's were worth more. Got expensive for a 14 year old. Had a nice 3x9 Leupold. Rifle was a $100 and scope was $100. That was a Lot of money back then for a working man.
Remain hooked on rifles and reloading ever since.
Many years later I served as the rifle range officer at local gun club. Would have public sight in days before deer season. I help sight in many rifles over the years. For some reason the 270 and 22-250 seemed to group best.
The two gunsmiths that claimed the 220 swift had an accuracy edge over the 22-250 was Harold Broughton and Kenny Jarrett. That was sometime back in the late 80s.
Now comparing my dad's 22-250 to my 220 swift is not a fair comparison. 22-250 is off the shelf rifle with no modifications. The 220 swift is a heavy barrel blueprinted action in an HS pres
Back in 1977 When I first got into Varmint Hunting, I bought a NIB Rem 700 Varmint Special HB Rifle in the 22/250 Caliber, That a Friend Suggested to me that i buy, And for the last 30 plus years, This Cartridge & Rifle has served me well above it's Reviews, With some good Hand loads, It is outstanding etc.
Actually I bought a 5mm back it the early 70's as I was having trouble killing groundhogs with my faithful Nylon 66. I soon found that was all that much better so I bought a Remington 788 in,22-250 I had that a year or so and Ruger came out with that 77 and i was hooked. I traded the 788 for that Ruger with the "Made In the 200th year of American Liberty" on the barrel. 22-250 0f course.
Sadly a few years and a divorce later I sold it to a gun shop. I have always regretted that.
BTW I do have a TC Pro Hunter and a stainless fluted barrel in 22-250
I still have & use my Nylon 66 Apache Black with the Chrome Barrel bought it NIB back in 1974 for Apx $75.00 Bucks What a deal back then Love this rifle etc.
I never had any of the Trigger Problems with my Rem Varmint Special 700, Like they are saying about the Rifle firing by it self by just touching the Bolt etc & Ive shot this Rifle Hundreds of times in the Woodchuck & coyote Woods never any trigger problems etc.
MyREDTAIL, a sad note from Montana...
My friend had a 700. One day prepping for an elk hunt he loaded a round then decided he needed something from his truck. He laid the rifle across the seat of his pickup to fetch his item and it went off shooting a hole through his opposite-side truck door. It spooked him something fierce. He swore he had made no mistake/user error. He later sold that 700 to another man. That fella one day had the same thing happen but killed a kid and that rifle became the basis of the big lawsuit against Remington. My friend has forever regretted his selling the gun, carried much grief & guilt. I cannot imagine the horror the man who killed the kid felt. The gun going off was one issue. Where the muzzle was pointed is what caused the death. Inexcusable firearm handling PERIOD. So many love that 700 for good reasons, but for that reason I'll never own a 700.
Besides, I love my numerous Rugers (2 No.1Bs (.270 & .22-250) [BOTH OUTSTANDING & MOST PRIZED!], a M77 MKII Stainless (.270), 3 Americans (.270 & .30-06 All-Weather & a Predator .22-250), a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight (.270), and my old reliable 1903A3 (.30-06) without getting into the many ARs (.308s & 5.56s) Yep, I too love those flat shooters!
Wondering if you was on the old go go varmint board? did so many half inch groups with my 22-250's at 200 yards. h-380 with custom bullets or just the green box 52 grainers always worked well
This video prompted me to think about this rifle in another caliber. Actually I'm all hot to get a Win Supergrade in a 6.5 Creed or maybe a 308. But there is not a Rem 700 stainless in those calibers for sale in the country. Nor is there a supergrade except on gun broker and I'm just not going to go that route. I've been talking to most of the good gun shops in all of Texas and I'm silly enough right now to travel all day to get to any shop who has what I want. Nothing available. It could be years before this supply chain situation turns around. Very bad situation. I wish the distributors would quit letting the internet seller/scalpers horde the best guns .... thereby seriously driving up prices.
Excellent video sir,, I’ve been handloading 308 for years and new to the 22-250. I just picked up a bergara b14 hmr and bought all my components and waiting for the ups man to bring my lapua brass. I feel like a little kid with a balloon. Seen some powders that I’m using with 308 are compatible with the 250. I coyote hunt mostly but want to ghillie up and get some crows on the ground
I have 22 250 in 788 shoots assume
Bring your 22lr to the range.
And shot it during the cooldown period of the 22-250 or any centrefire. You practice the fundamentals and you save your barrel.
I have been researching the 243 as I was thinking about re-barreling my .308
bolt when the barrel gets on in age. So when I saw your video and it gave me a pause about my plans, and maybe rethink plans of re-barreling vs purchasing another rifle,
+Big Gee You may want to wait until I do my .243 video.
+GunBlue490 I look forward to hearing more of your wisdom. Thank you for sharing it.
Big gee the 243 win is a very versatile caliber, I've used 58 grn hornady superformance for red fox to 105 grn Amaxfor target ,my best reloads are 70 grn Serra blitz kings with h380 for varmints to 100 nosler partition or nosler 90 grn ballistic tip as my do it all load my Remington 700 BDL isn't fussy it's a do it all caliber for most hunting atvb Steve
Ya, 243 is a very versatile cartridge. From deer, to coyotes. Even heard of ppl taking Elk with them. Although not recommended for Elk...lol
Guess he never has had a 6mm Br to play with. If you consider .024 groups not inherently accurate I guess we need smaller calibers. 1/2" at 300 yds is more than adequate for most shooting. I have hit targets at 700 yds with one rifle I own. Now my 338 Lapua is good for a 12" x12" steel at 1500 yds. More than adequate for most snipers.
I like to think in terms like this.
Ammunition of any caliber , bullet type and who and how loaded I think is precise , consistent and compatible with the rifle and more importantly the rifle barrel. The more this can be refined and achieved the better, when used in a well made presion rifle ( I believe the accuracy is in the rifle) by a competent shooter who does so regularly and correctly is when it all comes together each doing it s purpose.
I understand their ate calibers and variations of such that have proven positive results. Evee wonder why the .243 a fine shooting caliber. Isn t used or prob would be successful competing against the 6 ppc.
Accuracy or precision , and I give more accuracy to the rifle and precision to the ammo.
very well done. I enjoyed learning more about this round and the 700. I just recently acquired a 700 and don’t load yet, so I am trying to select a few commercial loads to try. My 700 has a 26” barrel with a 14:1 twist . I have a box of 55 gr PPU. Would like a couple more suggestions. thank you
The .22-250 is king but in these mountains of VA the CZ 527 .223 is ideal for my needs. I just use it to mop up chucks around my house and the occasional fox where 200yds is a far shot.
If I had open meadows to hunt where 300yds+ would be the normal I’d definitely invest in a .22-250.
For a scope. Question Fixed or Variable? Any good scope to save for? I want to shoot at 200yd or less.
I had the rifle like that for the 280 Remington...100 anniversary edition. And I put the 100 anniversary leupold scope on it. I miss that gun so bad.
There's just guns you should never part with!!!!