Born This Way: The Science Behind Being Gay (LGBT+ Documentary) | Real Pride
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- Are gay men born gay? In this 2013 documentary, filmmaker Bryce Michael Sage explores how same-sex attraction can be compatible with evolution and how it could have survived through generations of history. A winner of multiple awards across international film festivals, Survival of Fabulous seeks to find out how you stayed on the right track if you're born this way!
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Bravo! 👏👏👏 Love his father’s response when he asked “Do you think I wanted to be gay.?” His father: “No, because I don’t ever remember wanting to be straight”. This needs to be seen by everyone.
Exactly! It baffles and bothers me when I've had to hear straight ppl literally say they choose to be straight or get confused how ppl "choose" to be gay, when it takes no self awareness to know there is no choice involved other than if you act on your attractions or not.
@@LUPART Erections are not voluntary. Science.
The Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships.
Anyone that teaches the LIE of monetary tithing, sells anything using the gospel, or teaches that same-sex marriage is a sin CHOOSES to die with the wicked.
Luke 10:7 states the only wages for ministering are eating and drinking whatever you are given.
Also, know that rich people will all die. You can't be a Christian, sit on all kinds of money, watch your fellow brothers and sisters starve, suffer, or be homeless, choose to do nothing about it, and think that it's ok. Those are all wolves.
Mathew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused in some way and something inside of them blocks off a certain type of body but it doesn't happen to everyone that is abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex-characteristics but opposite in regards to gender. Notice, it states God PREFERS for people to be in LGBT relationships. Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham. Those verses are actually referring to pedophilia. Romans 1:27 All of the men were male in regards to gender, all of the women were female in gender. It is not referring to Eunuchs (where one partner is transgender). Also, it had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. They were trying to procreate during orgies so God did it on purpose. Anyone that continues to teach same sex marriage is a sin when the Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships will also die by their own choice.
In order to be a church building, the place must house people inside of it. Otherwise it is just another private money-making business part of Babylon that furthers satan's agenda. Stay out of the fake churches. Eventually, they will be shut down.
I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be UTTERLY destroyed from among the people. Again, everyone has a choice.
And anyone that deletes my messages CHOOSES to reject Jesus Christ Himself and that means they also CHOOSE to die with the wicked.
I am Elijah so that means any discrepancies in the holy books are ultimately decided by me. I am also to usher in the Messiah! Be ready: Jesus is coming back! Malachi 3 says when He comes back, He will come to me first wherever I am at at that time.
WORLD PEACE IS COMING!!
By the way, anything based on gender norms no longer applies. In fact, the last will be first and the first will be last. It's women that will mostly be ruling the kingdom of heaven.
Rich people do NOT get into heaven. A camel can not go through the eye of a needle.
Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8-11 is talking to the thieving church leaders! It's prophetic instruction to return the money they were never supposed to take for ministering and God will end Covid. Every major church and fake Christian television network around the world knew how to end Covid since August of 2020, but they LOVE MONEY so much they intentionally chose to kill people with Covid instead of repenting and bringing all the stolen money back that they were never supposed to take in the first place..
Rapture is NOT what most people think. Read Malachi 4:2-4. It's when God's true people transfigure and shine like the sun with glory of God RIGHT HERE ON EARTH! Spiritually, yes, people will enter the demension of heaven, but nobody physically leaves. Jesus comes back to literally walk this planet and rule.
I already had a vision I was above the clouds looking at a red/ orange sun about to rise!
Pre-tribulation rapture is false teaching. Tribulations is the refining fire of torture Christians have to experience in order to get to heaven. Only those who endure to the end will survive. The 144,000 are coming out; they have already experienced hell on earth (tribulations), mainly by people who calld themselves Christians but are merely wolves that will die unless they repent and apologize............
@@elijahdieker7016 wtf?@ this is your INTERPRETATION. The bible does not use the term lgbt
@@evinkleinman6052 The Bible doesn't use the term homosexual. That's because there was no real understanding to what that meant. There were many things the Bible did not reference as to lack of knowledge. I hope we keep learning. You can only learn so much from an old book. We should not hold on to a Bible as the know all end all. It's ridiculous.
I was a hair dresser and worked with a number of openly gay men in the late 1980s, and I didn't need anyone to tell me that being gay was a choice, because it was obvious it definitely wasn't and isn't. People need to get over themselves and let people live and be who they are, and quit allowing archaic societal expectations influence and perpetuate irrational fears.
Remove archaic religious faith-based beliefs and you'll have far less bigotry.
@@zajournals And how would you propose to remove faith-based beliefs? Make them illegal? There goes democracy!
@@jamesrobiscoe1174 I guess education is the best way to eliminate prejudice and bigotry. People can believe what they want. But give them the chance to learn and place them in a diverse society where we all benefit from each other's work and we may have a fighting chance to all get along.
@@jamesrobiscoe1174 all faith-based beliefs eventually pass into mere mythology, and so too will our modern religions. People should be free to believe and worship whatever, so long as no one is hurt, it stays out of our laws, government, and public institutionns, and no one is deprived of equality.
@@btdfw education is a big influence 👍 but some people choose to hate regardless.
Very inspirational words from his dad: “I don’t ever remember choosing to be straight” ❤️
Likely that is heard more in Canada. 🇨🇦 has been more open for decades longer than the USA, including gay marriage.
I guess my guest isn't thirsty, since he never took a drink and I neve offered.
It is important for homosexuality to be seen as being chosen because, before something can be seen as being wrong it first must be seen as being chosen, and therefore subconsciously worthy of contempt and hatred through the stone of subjective comparison. While one may indeed choose to express their sexuality, that is not what defines one's sexuality. But rather, the inward desire, or fundamental orientation itself. And that orientation is not chosen, neither is it a lifestyle. The reason that we never hear the term " heterosexual lifestyle " is because there is no need to categorize heterosexuality with such descriptively inherent connotative oversimplification in order to subconsciously justify contempt and hatred through subjective comparison. This description categorizes gay people in order to make it easier to dehumanize them. For people to be seen as individuals can threaten said dehumanization by making it harder to demonize and vilify them. I have a straight brother who tells me that there are plenty of straight people that are promiscuous, etc. Yet, these people are not categorized in order to vilify and demonize them. The lifestyles of gay people can a d do differ, just as the lifestyles of heterosexual people. But such reality humanize gay people too much, threatening people's ability to view others as evil in order to view themselves as good.
@@lynnbaker2336 Agreed, the term "heterosexual lifestyle" is non-existent, but there's "family values," often spouted from the sanctimonious mouths of opportunists such as political candidates and religious grifters.
@akrenwinkle oh, yes, this term has the clear connotative inference that heterosexuality and procreation are necessary in order to possess values such as respect and fairness, etc. Said inference ultimately perpetuates the self validating delusion of heterosexuality possessing moral validity. This is a religiously indoctrinated lie. Further, said term carries the clear connotative inference that people choose their ( good and valid) sexuality. Another lie.
I've spent the best years of my life being celibate because I was gay, I missed out on relationships. I was told that I was a hunk back in yesteryear now I'm an old man and alone
+1
But if you're a good man there are others out there who can be wonderful friends and lovers. I've been in 2 ltrs, the last one 34 years, and because I get turned on by the whole person I stay turned on. Love is wonderful and sex is a healthy part of it. I am a cuddle monster because intimacy is bliss.
This makes me feel sad. It's never too late.
@@JamieLofthouse
I have to believe that. I’m just shocked that really young guys are coming on to me and I know some think I’ve got $$$ but some just really want a mature man and I’m fine being friends but I cannot think of sex with someone so much younger than me. I’d rather go without than do things without an emotional attachment. I tried that and it’s just not me.
I know a family her brother is gay and her daughter is gay
I never questioned if I was born that way. It was obvious to me by 4 or 5 that I was attracted to guys even before I knew what sex was.
Same
Same here. Remind me to tell you about my memories of watching the guys walking past my house to work! 😉
@@davidburbage3348 LOL. I think I knew from watching TV back in the day.When i really Knew looking back is the high i got with wrestling around playing with a step cousin in the backyard on a visit. No nothing happened so don't think it was perverted I was just REALLY into the the situation. I had a total crush and it sparked it. I only remember many many years later that was it for me. Don't even remember his name at this point lol but yeah that was a clear memory.
Same here, I was the same age too!
When I was about 3 I was obsessed with the boyfriend that my older sister had. I always begged him to take his shirt of for me😅 Kind of uncomfortable for me when I see him nowadays🙈 But I always was interested in Guys
For me, the biggest fight has been to not be ashamed of being gay. I've spent my life living to please others. Being "the good son, the gentleman, the good respectful guy. At the end of the day I realized all that had gotten me was alone. Now I live to please me. Im not getting a second chance at this life. The rest is noise.
The biggest fight is to please God because, at the end of your life, you will be judged for defying his commandment of male and female, man and wife sex only, if you find yourself before him for your denial and hatred of his law against same-sex relations, there won't ever be any more days for you.
The only noise you will hear is weeping, begging, crying, and screaming in hellfire 1 Cor 6:9, Rev 21:8-10...Your choice, it always was.
I hope you will find your happiness in life. I think i've heard of events for older gays to connect with each other, esp. the ones that were closeted their whole lifes.
Look at the bright side... you outlived many many queer people in the time of AIDS...
That's why nowadays representation of older queer people is so rare. But they exist!
Don't be shy and join them. You won't be the only one with these emotions and story...
What to know what else exists; people who lived the gay life for decades, but when they found out the truth through the word of God that that act is sexually immoral and unacceptable to God, they changed; if you read the 1 Cor 6:10-11 you'll see that even back then people changed and stop the practice of same-sex relations/Homosexuality, but I'm sure you don't want to hear their story because they prove no one is born gay.
Being gay is not natural. And you should feel ashamed of it. Don't make you feelings your God
As a straight woman, I found this utterly fascinating. So well produced. Thank you!
But not a word about homosexual females.
@@FuckPedophileBiden It takes a certain kind of hate to breed the likes of you. If that's what defines homosexuality for you, I'd hate to see what goes on in that mind of yours, truly.
@@btdfw I won't judge you for hating homosexuals because I've endured it my entire life, and if women payed more attention to their butts
and made their poop smell a lot stronger and feel a bit creamier we wouldn't have to seek out other men to play our doo doo games.
@@katmiller51 You are right. This documentary only addressed research regarding gay men, and not lesbians, bisexuals, or trans people. I wonder whether we might infer that there are other factors responsible for those categories? Let's hope for an expanded understanding of all LGBT (plus) in the future!
@@katmiller51 I would assume the principal would be the same.
This is a great film! I shared it with two former professors in epistemological sociology and biological anthropology! I had gathered bits and pieces of information in this film in the past, but I had never seen it all brought together in such a holistic presentation before. I think it helped that I understand a little bit more about genetic expression than most people, but this was overall an accessible piece of work! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
This really is a nice little presentation. Nicely done! 👏
This should be shown in high school health class.
I actually think it's a silly thing that some people heterosexual and homosexual alike are so concerned with what makes us gay or straight or bisexual. It signals that we need science to prove that we are okay and normal. We don't ask straight people to justify their existence as being a natural occurrence in science.
I'm gay btw
Maybe to some. Im gay and genuinely interested in the science the same way i am interested in other planets for example. The brain is an amazingly complex thing that never fails to surprise me, whether it be sexuality, drug affects, consciousness ect.
My dad was a urologist in Laguna Beach, California, from the early 1960s until the 2000’s. He’s a first generation Italian Catholic American. He spent his time with the male patients in his practice to ask about their sexual identity. It was taboo then. And his practice spanned the AIDS epidemic. He left his catholic upbringing behind to adopt the understanding that a person is born gay. It’s not a choice FFs. That was a very novel proclamation decades ago. But he sure taught his 8 kids to be understanding and open minded. He was a good man. Love is love, it’s not defined by an ancient edict that persecutes any of us as consenting adults.
"Love is love, it's not defined by an ancient edict that persecutes any of us as consenting adults."
I guess it's up to reLIEgion to do that.
Consent to break the Law of God.
@@anthonyzestley3980
Whose God?
@@hjm5885 You should stop hanging around "gay" bars in that case.
@@hjm5885 .......ive been with my partner for 35 years and you dare have the audacity to say gays dont know what love is?......just because youre hanging around in all the wrong places doesnt mean love doesnt exist.........id suggest you delete your grindr.
Excellent! I find the animal homosexuality intriguing. Growing up we always had two German Shepherds as pets. We acquired an excellent breed male once and he grew to be a beauty. Many people wanted to breed with this male but he would have nothing to do with female dogs. But if someone brought their male dog over he was all over it. So we always said he was our gay German Shepherd!
No penetration
There are examples of homosexuality all over the natural world. Consider the gay penguins, for example. I’ve had SSA since I was 4. I found out very early from my parents that being a lesbian was not acceptable. It’s
@@ailleananaithnid2566 If us human beings behaved as all animals do we would be doing strange things indeed. Consider the life of a man who meets a woman. The woman invites the man back to her home upon which the man kills all of the woman`s children in order to seed his own offspring. Such is the life of the lion, for example.... Ergo, that homosexuality exists throughout the natural world is no reason for us human beings to act and accept likewise. Animals do things to and with their own kind which all right thinking human beings would consider monstrous. Animals kill ( which would be murder amongst human beings ) their own kind and eat their dead.
Justify or model your lives and morals on animals if you like, but most of us prefer to be recognised and act as humans.
@@stephenking4170 Humans that kill in war or men who kill vulnerable women and rape them? I believe we are part of the animal kingdom. This horse is too high even for you, please step down.
Didn't know what to expect, but really! this was the most fun, most intelligent, most open and most compassionate and respectful video I've ever seen on the LGBTQ community. In a word,...Fabulous!
I'm glad I watched this because it is more thorough and yet states the fact there are biological reasons to explain why some men are gay or straight. Cool!
One of my early memories was looking over into our neighbour's garden from my vantage point of the balcony on my parent's house (I was just 4 at the time - 1950) and watching two boys (probably early twenties) take off their shirts and sitting in deck chairs enjoy the London summer sun. I was somehow totally drawn to them. I obviously didn't understand this very nice feeling and it took me many years to understand why I was attracted to men.
Fun to watch at the same time as being informative 😊. I'm so happy for the presenter (who did a fabulous job) that he went on an amazing trip in the process, including Italy and Samoa.
Darwin. You got some explaining to do. Lol. Love it.
I have never believed that my being gay was my choice, because it certainly wasn't. As far back as I can remember, I was always different in many ways. I remember at kindergarten or nursery school that I was bullied for being a "sissy". It wasn't that I walked differently. I certainly talked differently. My mum was Irish and growing up in northern England I didn't develop the dialect. We spend those first years with our mothers. So my accent leaned towards hers not my fathers, who had a thick dialect. So at school I sounded different. It got me beaten by fists a few times and my whole school experience was terrible. I couldn't wait to leave. I do remember such things as major sports, Soccer, Cricket, Basketball etc I hated. I did like tennis. I also found it easier to play with girls rather than boys, which I found them to be too brutal. By age 7 I found myself attracted to male articles of clothing, i.e. Leather jackets on men, not women. By 11 I found myself attracted to men. I remember watching a film one night where two men were wrestling in their suits on the floor and I becoming aroused. I prayed to God like crazy to take these feelings away. I begged and cried to Him but nothing changed. I knew I didn't want these feelings. I denied them for a long time. I knew that the bullying and ostracism I had experienced in childhood would become worse in adulthood. By 19, I was trying to switch my fantasies and sexual urges to women but it was useless. So I attempted suicide. That's why I know, no young gay person chooses to be gay. Who in their right mind would "choose" to be ostracized and become an outcast of society? Mine wasn't a choice. I KNOW that I was born this way. This documentary only confirms what I already knew. Now I accept myself for what I am, but it took a long time.
I’m glad you have accepted yourself! Love love love
@@deolihp Thank you, that means a lot to me
Thank you@@deolihp
No one is 100% male-typical or 100% female-typical, but on average homosexual people are generally more atypical than heterosexual people. Gay men are shifted in a female direction compared with straight men, and lesbians are shifted in a male direction compared with straight women. These are only shifts and not complete gender reversals, and they don't affect every gender trait. Gay men have at least some gender atypical traits(some more than others) but few have the entire package. Gay people remain gender typical in a variety of traits, especially those related to sexuality, such as their interest in casual sex. Similarly not all straight people are completely gender typical either. A study found that a minority of straight people share a predisposing factor with gay people of the same sex. It's likely this predisposing factor is one that predicts gender nonconformity in childhood and/or in adulthood. It has been hypothesized that homosexuality results from inhereting a set of several feminizing genes. If this hypothesis is correct, the straight men who share a predisposing factor with gay men might be those who have inherited some of these feminizing genes, but not enough to make them gay.
To some extent, homosexuality is part of a package of mental traits, many of which can be considered gender-variant or gender non-conformist, whereas heterosexuality is part of a package of gender-typical or gender-conformist. This arises because all these traits differentiate under the influence of a common biological process-the sexual differentiation of the brain under the influence of sex hormones.
Boys are more active than girls, and they engage in more rough-and-tumble. Boys and girls have different toys preferences. Boys prefer toy vehicles, toy weapons, balls and construction toys; girls have a broader preferences, but tend to prefer dolls and household items such as toy kitchen implements. Girls are more interested in infants than are boys. Boys have better throwing accuracy but girls have better control of fine hand movements. Boys do better than girls at a range of visuospatial tasks, such as targeting(throwing accuracy) and mental rotation(deciding whether two objects seen from different viewpoints are identical or not) Girls have better verbal fluency than boys. Girls are more people oriented; boys are more thing oriented. Boys prefer the company of boys; girls prefer that of girls. Girls and boys voices are recognizably different, even though there is no difference in the pitch of their voices before puberty. All these statements are statements or averages of course, and don't necessarily apply to individual children.
These gendered characteristics exist in non-human animals also. Some of these gendered traits arise very early in life. For example present on the day of birth: newborn females prefer to look at faces and males prefer to look at mechanical mobiles. The male superiority in mental rotation is evident by 3-5months of age. Difference in toy preference are evident at 3-8 months of age. There is evidence prenatal hormones influence at least some of these gendered traits. With experimental animals, it's a fairly straightforward matter to demonstrate this and it has been proven in multiple animals. This kind of intentional experiment would be unethical in humans, but something similar has occurred the form of "experiments of nature" meaning genetic conditions that affect the hormonal environment during fetal life have proven this affect. and shown that high prenatal testosterone leads to masculine traits and low level lead to feminine traits.
Large scale studies have documented very sizeable and statistically significant shifts in gender-typed behaviours of pre-gay children, both boys and girls, compared with pre-straight children of the same sex. Pre-gay children participated less in gender-typical activities and more in gender-atypical activities. Still, not all children-whether pre-gay or pre-straight- conformed to these patterns. The same studies have been carried out across different cultures and the findings were consistent. In all cultures, pre gay boys were less aggressive and less interested in sports than pre straight boys on average. They were more likely to have associated with girls and to have participated in typical girls activities. Studies have recruited gender-conforming boys(more masculine) and more feminine boys and interviewed the, and their parents, repeatedly during the boys childhood and adolescence. The results were striking; of the control group of 35 gender-conforming boys on follow up through to young adulthood, all were heterosexual. of the 44 feminine boys only 11 were heterosexual and 33 were homosexual or bisexual. The feminine boys were more likely to become gay or bisexual adults. Several other prospective studies have reached similar conclusions.
Boys, are typically exposed to higher levels of testosterone in the womb, and tend to gravitate toward male-typical interests and behaviours and related occupations in adulthood. and being sexually attracted to women upon reaching puberty. A boy who is exposed to lower levels of is more likely to be more female-typical when he is born, gravitating toward more female-typical interests and behavior, since girls are also generally exposed to lower levels of testosterone. He will also be sexually attracted to men in adulthood. Testosterone is needed to “masculinize” a prenatal brain; if that doesn’t happen, the child will grow up to desire men.These differences in gay mens brains make them similar to most women(female-typical) who experience attraction to men(andrphilia) and the differences in lesbians brains make them similar to most men(male-typical) who experience attraction to women(gynephilia)
In area of cognition, women perform better than men at some memory tasks, including episodic memory(memory of events) verbal memory and memory of the locations of objects. They are also better at tests of verbal fluency(quickly coming up with words that match a certain category) and some other verbal skills, face recognition, and behavioral tasks requiring fine hand movements.
Men perform better than women at variety of visuospatial tasks such as mental rotation, targeting accuracy, and navigation(especially when navigating by distant landmarks or compass directions rather than by local cues) In areas of personality, men rank higher than women on measures of assertiveness, competivness, aggressiveness, and independence(these getting things done traits are sometimes referred to collectively as instrumentality). Women rank higher than men on measures of expressivness, sociability, empathy, openness to feelings, altruism and neuroticism.(the last item includes the tendency to depression, anxiety, self-consciousness, and low self esteem) Men prefer thing-oriented activities and occupations(e.g carpenter) whereas women prefer people-oriented activities and occupations(e.g social worker) Women have better developed aesthetic interests and less developed technological interests than men.
As with childhood traits, the gendered traits of adults appear to be influenced by biological factors, such as genes and sex hormones. Many of the sex differences exist widely across different countries and cultures, including illiterate populations, as well as among those who are well-educated, and across societies that enforce traditional gender roles as well as those that are more egalitarian. Infact, gender differences in personality seem to become to become more marked as societies cast off traditional expectations about the roles of men and women. Many gendered traits that are gendered in humans are also gendered in non humans primates and other mammals.
The visuospatial test that shows the most consistent and large sex difference in the mental rotation test, in which men outperform women. At least several research groups have conducted sizeable studies comparing performance at this task between gay and straight subjects. Six of these studies-one of them an internet-based test by several hundred thousand subjects from around the world reported that gay men perform less well than straight men. With regard to women, studies found a shift in the opposite direction-that is lesbians performed better at the task than did straight women. In another study gay men performed worse than straight men at targeting(throwing a ball to the centre on a target a few feet away) and lesbians performed better than straight women.
They examined navigation strategies. They found that the strategy preferred by gay men(use of nearby-landmarks) resemled that preferred by straight women., and differed from that preferred by straight men( use of distant landmarks or compass bearings) Two large studies found differences in the ability to judge the orientation of a line-a male favouring task, gay men performed worse than straight men on this task. and lesbians performed better than straight women. There is considerable evidence that gay peoples visuospatial abilities are shifted, on average in the direction of the other sex. Women tend to outperform men in verbal fluency and some related verbal skills. in a study measuring verbal fluency the gay men performed significantly better than the straight men and about as well as the straight women, whereas the lesbians scored significantly worse than the straight women and about as badly as the heterosexual men
In another study on memory tasks gay men outperformed straight men and did as well as straight women.
In studies on occupational preferences that noted that all the masculine occupations were thing-orientated, whereas at least three of the feminine occupations were people orientated. The study showed a major gender shift among gay men and women in the people-thing dimention, with gay mens interests shifted toward people like straight women and gay womens shifted towards things like heterosexual men.
MRI scans showed In straight men the right hemisphere was 2% larger than the left. In straight women, the two hemispheres were the same size. In gay men the two hemispheres were also the same size. In lesbians the right hemisphere was slightly larger than the left. Also there was marked differences in the left and right amygdalas of straight men and women. In straight men the right amygdala was more richly connected with other brain regions than was the left amygdala, whereas in straight women the left amygdala was more richly connected. Whats more, the main functional connections formned by the amygdala were to different brain regions in the two sexes. In gay men and lesbians, these characteristics were almost entirely sex-atypical; the findings in gay men resembled those of straight women, and the findings in lesbians resembled those of straight men. At least two studies have reported that gay men score higher than straight men on tests of empathy-a female favoring trait. Gay men and bisexual men also score higher on tests of aesthetic interest, another female favouring trait. Several studies have reported that gay men are less physically aggressive than heterosexual men and one of these found lesbians are more physically aggressive than heterosexual women. Gay people also tend to be gender shifted in instrumentality and expressiveness(these are sets of male-favouring traits)
A region of the hypothamalamus called the medical preoptic area is involved in the regulation of male-typical behaviours, and within this area lies at least one cell group that is larger in males than females. In rats this cell group is called the sexually dimorphic nucleus of the preoptic area(SDN-POA) and in humans it is called the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus(INAH3) It is suspected that the rats SDN-POA and the human INAH3 are homologous structures, meaning that they have evolved from the same structure in the common ancestor of rats and humans. Studies have showed the INAH3 is significantly smaller in gay men than straight men. Infact there is no significant difference between its size in the gay men and in women. Activity pattern in this region of the hypothalamus have been reported to differ between gay and straight men.
Another structure in the hypothalamus have been reported to differ in size between gay and straight men. A cell group called the suprachiasmatic nucleus was larger in gay men than in straight men. The suprachiasmatic nucleus is concerned with the regulation of circadian rhythms,. The size of this commissure is known to be larger in women than in men.
In animals, sexual interactions between same sex partners (male mounting another male or female mounting another female) are observed in a broad variety of animal species. Often, these behaviors are expressed only when a suitable partner of the opposite sex is not available due to captivity (zoo or other captive populations), or when a skewed sex ratio in the population, or the presence of dominant males is preventing access to females. These behaviors do not represent a true same sex preference but serve as an outlet for sexual motivation in the absence of suitable partners of the opposite sex. The only case known of spontaneous same sex preference has been studied in detail and it concerns a sheep population in the western part of the United States( this has no been found in wild sheep, only these domesticated rams) a fraction of rams in this population mate exclusively with other males when given a choice between a male or female partner. The SDN of the ovine POA (oSDN), a brain structure that is approximately three times larger in males than in females and contains about four times more neurons, was shown to be significantly smaller in male-oriented rams than in female-oriented rams.
The oSDN also contained fewer neurons and expressed aromatase at reduced levels in male-oriented rams than in female-oriented rams. The features of this nucleus therefore correlate with sexual partner preference: subjects attracted to males (females and male-oriented rams) are similar and distinguished from subjects attracted to females female-oriented rams. The volume of the oSDN is already larger in males than in females around the end of embryonic life and differentiates under the influence of testosterone in males. Embryonic treatment of females with testosterone between 30 and 90 d of gestation results in a masculinized oSDN in females. Furthermore, the size of this nucleus is no longer modified in adulthood by castration or treatment with testosterone. If the small size of oSDN in male-oriented rams is determined like in females by a relative lack of early exposure to testosterone, it likely represents (one of) the cause(s), and not a consequence, of their atypical sexual attraction. This nucleus is indeed located in the center of the POA, a region involved in the control of sexual behavior and male-typical partner preferences, and it would in this scenario differentiate before subjects had an opportunity to express their sexual partner preference. In conclusion, these studies demonstrate that sexual orientation in animals is a sexually differentiated feature like other sexually differentiated behaviors or morphological characteristics. Male-typical sexual orientation is controlled at least in part by the POA (like sexual behavior), and it differentiates under the influence of pre-/perinatal sex steroids.
In rats and sheep, the size of a potentially homologous nucleus located in the same part of the POA (SDN-POA in rat, oSDN in sheep) is irreversibly determined by embryonic sex steroids. Moreover, lesions of this nucleus in adult male rats or ferrets modifies sexual partner preference, an animal model of sexual orientation. If the same mechanisms control the development of INAH3 in humans, the smaller INAH3 of gay men most likely be a marker of deficient exposure to androgens during ontogeny and a cause of the modified sexual orientation.
The differences between the sexes result from the early exposure of embryos to a different endocrine milieu: a high concentration of testosterone for male embryos in mammals and a much lower exposure to sex steroids in females. These differentiating (organizing) effects usually occur early in life, during the embryonic period or just after birth and are irreversible. These organizing actions of sex steroids on behavior are paralleled by irreversible changes in brain structure. Embryonic sex steroids differentiate the size of several brain structures, including the sexually dimorphic nucleus of the preoptic area (SDN-POA). This group of cells is five to six times larger in male than in females, and this difference results almost exclusively from the action of testosterone during late embryonic life and the first days of postnatal life. Once acquired, the sex-typical size of the SDN-POA cannot be altered in adulthood by steroid hormones.
The sexual preference of a male for a female is controlled, like the expression of male-typical sexual behavior, by the medial part of the POA. Experimental lesion of this brain region causes a reversal of the males' preference in rats and ferrets: after surgery, they prefer to spend time with other males rather than with sexually receptive females. Exposure to testosterone (or its metabolite estradiol) induces male-typical partner preference (preference for a female over a male sex partner), whereas in the absence of high concentrations of these steroids, a female pattern of mate preference will develop (preference for male partner). Sexual orientation is not affected by activational effects of steroids in adulthood. Gonadectomy does not influence orientation nor does adult treatment with androgens and estrogens. Furthermore, numerous studies have clearly established that plasma concentrations of sex steroids are perfectly “normal” (typical of the gonadal sex) in both gay men and lesbians.
On average, male embryos are exposed to higher concentrations of testosterone than female embryos, but these concentrations vary around a mean value for various reasons (environmental, genetic, etc.). Male subjects at the lower end of this sex-specific distribution could thus acquire a female-typical orientation (and be gay), whereas females at the high end of the concentration curve would acquire a male-typical sexual attraction and be lesbian. Even if they are not attracted by the same specific individuals, females and gay men share an attraction for men, whereas males and lesbians share an attraction for women. Genital structures and the brain (supporting behavior) presumably differentiate at different times during embryonic life, hence steroid action in the brain may be affected while remaining normal in the genital skin. To produce its effects, testosterone must often be metabolized in its target structures, bind to specific receptors, and then activate complex intracellular signaling cascades, eventually leading to changes in protein synthesis and/or neural activity. Any aspect of this complex suite of actions could be deficient in the brain but not in the periphery, leading also to a discrepancy between somatic sex differentiation and sexual orientation.
Extremely informative AND very entertaining!
Very informative and kind of hilarious too! Thank you! 🎉😊
It's all about your hormones and everything is controlled by our hormones from the minute of conception until the day we die. People don't choose to be gay, straight, bisexual or whatever don't hate people for being different. There is more sin in judging people and disowning family members and harming people that are different. Just because some people that are religious fanatics that judge anyone that is different from them don't give you the right to judge or harm other people. Just minding your own dam business and leave everybody else alone would make you a much better human.
Bravo. "The only sin lies in hurting others unneccesarily. Hurting yourself is not sinful, just stupid." -Robert Heinlein.
Yeah, compulsive thieves, insecure wife beaters, adulterers also have the same belief. Just follow your impulses and natural urges like an animal. Don't judge them. They can't help it.
Being a real man starts with being responsible for one's actions not succumbing to destructive desires and behaviour.
Science fanatics should also not jump at conclusions when they cannot find the scientific reason or ground but have to deliberately dig it out. Most probably what you dig out later proves to be something else.
I like it. it was very interesting plus a self learning and process on the topic. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Florida, Puerto Rico.
I loved it! Thanks for making this documentary. The entire world should see it.
They should include it in HS, of course Florida DeSantis would just ban it. I think it would save young people so much pain and shame that most of us have gone through.
Thanks for the effort in making this by all the participants, really well done.
Thank you for this! Thank you so much!! The world needed this 🌎 ♀️🌍 ♂️ !! 💪✊🏼👍👏
When we start asking straights why they are that way, I will start caring why I am not.
And now I know... I'm gay for sure! ❤️🌈❤️
....because your mother and grandmother produced more offspring? :-)
@@lynette599 are you fucking serious
@@meowmeowmeowmeowmeowmw You obviously did not watch the complete video...it was discovered that gay men's mothers and grandmothers produced more offspring....so what did you take offence to??
@@lynette599 your reply was very vague be more specific
The gay movement is basically just an Anglo Power Movement......... they demand that all of the other ethnicities bow down & kiss their asses
The reason for homosexuality's survival is because it's natural. There is nothing abnormal or different about it. The problem is us humans that put societal moral precepts on how people should behave according to the way they think and see the world. My Gay friends both men and women are the smartest, most talented people I know. I had a gay/lesbian sister who recently died, my granddaughter, at 12 came out and announced that she liked girls. She did question her identity and her parents told her that she could do what ever she wanted once she finished her schooling, which included playing basketball, choir, art/painting, guitar and piano lessons and all the things that teenagers do. When it was time for college, she came around to say that she also likes boys. She now has more choices. I recently learned that homosexuality is part of natures way of controlling, population. So much fuss, really people let people live and mind your own business. Why so serious!!!! Hooray for love 🥰
It’s amazing the hate towards the LGBTQ+ community from Christians and Republicans in America. It is natural and look at the rest of the animal kingdom. Even in the Bible, there were many forms of marriage which included MANY wives, concubines, and whomever else on the side, including same sex. Religion just needs to go screw off and mind their own ignorant business.
@Xx BigBoss xX Why exactly are they degenerates? Just because your personal faith says to hate them, doesn't justify the hate.
We didn't put anything on society. It's just the way it went. Now, because the idea that we can actually "put societal constructs" onto everyone and live happily, is hurting everyone. Like doctors "assign" gender. This misunderstanding of reality is causing a lot of pain. And society will never be like you think.
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@@Josh-rn1emthe transgender issue is different from sexual orientation . What’re you driving at ?
WOW! What a fabulous professionally made (and entertaining) video! I'm more than impressed! So professionally done in every manner, way, shape, and form! Bryce, you're a genius! I see this documentary was made back in 2013; that's about 10 years ago.
Since childhood I’ve always known I liked men. At the back of my head I knew that it will always be part of me and once I accepted that I became happier . It’s just like why I’m a certain height or not or right handed . You can’t change it !
I'm in my fiftieth year of my coming-out. The research on identical twins, one straight, one gay, or both being gay was revealing. Also, that some gays are genetically gay and some are not born genetically gay --- is of high interest to me. Will have to look into this down the road. Intelligently done. Thank you 🎉
Both are genetically gay; however, one doesn't express them fully, connectively and directly towards a gay phenotype. Thats one of the most important parts on the video: epigenetics.
I am very moved by your way of sharing this information by going on site to speak with experts. As a 77 year old gay man, product of WW2
I also learned that when a mother is pregnant during times of war and stress, we're more likely to turn out gay
Really?
@@bingo737 if the gay uncle's role in the extended family is to help the family survive and thrive it would make sense that in times of distress or struggle, the need for more gay uncles would increase. That's not hard evidence but it makes a lot of sense if you think about it.
@@jamessanders145 wolves and other mammals need uncles too, and sometimes they become intimate.
@@pprehn5268 yes, of course. I also love what gay ppenguin couples do
Mr Phren, thank you for your service!
So far so inspiring. Parents so cooperative in this exercise. Wow! I'm baffled.
Very interesting. I’m the Mom of a Gay son. He’s kid #6, 5th boy. My grandmother had 9 children, the last was a Gay son, 5th son. This can’t be a coincidence… ♥️🏳️🌈♥️
Science shows that, with every boy born to a couple, the chance of him 'being' gay increases! So, the more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be gay.
@@olialto7 -- I am gay. I am the 7th son of a family of 8 boys and 2 girls.. I also have another gay brother who is a middle son. Over the past couple decades I've compared notes with similarly situated gay sons of large families. If the size of the family if 4 or more sons, there is almost always one gay son. If the size of the family has 6 or more sons, there seems to always be more than one gay son, one in the middle of the family and another closer to the latest born. I know about 50 families, almost all of them devout Christians, who have multiple gay sons who follow this pattern. And it follows closely to the pattern of the gay brothers study.
There's always exceptions though. For example I'm the firstborn and the only gay one out of my siblings!
@@dineyashworth8578 is it possible you mom had miscarriages before you were born?
@@fuzzy3562 she did.
These kind of news should be mainstream and talk about politicians too.
Very informative. This is a must-watch for every heterosexual because clears up some of the misconceptions about homosexuality.
Excellent documentary.
And the biggest misconception is the connotative oversimplification that homosexuality is a lifestyle. This description, with its clear oversimplification of choice, is used by haters in order to subconsciously justify contempt and hatred through subjective comparison. Ask any straight person when they chose to be straight and watch their response. That is because they never did. However, they cannot acknowledge this without also acknowledging the fact that neither do gay people choose to be gay. And such acknowledgement infringes on their ability to see others as evil in order to see themselves as good.
When are we going to clear up... well anything about heterosexuality though?
I think everyone gets distracted by gay people and don't notice how weird it is your body can control sexuality at all.
How talented is this guy? Horseriding, rollerblading, tree and rock climbingly fabulous! 🌈
life DESTROYED - any person who thinks they are god over their lives is marked for destruction. The high rates of suicide in this community speaks for itself
@@ktermalkut8332 Did you ever think it might be attitudes like this that lead gay people to feel they are worthless and want to kill themselves? Watching the video showed that gay men play a beneficial role in society that evolution seems to favor, across every culture, around the world. I don't think anybody completely understands it, but it seems to be a beneficial thing when people are allowed to live their lives and be who they are.
You left out gorgeous! Which he is! That’s what happens when you are out and proud. Remaining in the closet either kills us or turns us into nasty creatures.
@@BlueEyed888 satan appears as a messenger of LIGHT but he is the DESTROYER. The outer flesh beauty is NOTHING - can be snuffed out in a second. Putting your trust in the outer flesh or the soul (mind will and emotions) is so foolish - here this second, gone in the next!
@@ktermalkut8332 stop scarring people with your fairytales hon
There’s so much more to this and really i think its time to accept being gay is just part of the human condition like having blue eyes or red hair. I’m second son and gay yet my older brother has a gay daughter first born and a gay son second born to his first wife and three straight children with his second wife. I knew i was different from as early as three years old I knew I wasn’t like my older brother or male cousins. It’s time we just accept we are born this way.
I totally agree with you.
Gay it’s not just part of human condition.. Homosexuality is in nature.. There is documented proof that animals use it for the survival of their species .. pro reproduction or not.. take the case of frogs for example.. and their hermaphroditism.. We (humans) belong in the animal kingdom.. Think about it
David Bolton .........id an uncle who was gay........im gay and an older brother is bi..........and ive one extremely homophobic brother who has been blessed with a gorgeous daughter whos lesbian (i know he hates it but has to bite his lip) - its like karma caught up with the asshole LMFAO..........i knew i was different from around age of 3- 4....became more obvious by 7-8 ........and by the time i was a fudge doughnut well i,ll say no more.....LOL
The gay movement is basically just another name for Anglo Supremacy..... forcing all of the other ethnicitites to bow & kiss their asses
When I was younger I partied a lot and often had red eyes and blue hair.
Interesting, informative loved it
I'm straight and thank you for this.
Being gay and having to live in fear and not being able to live a normal life is WRONG!
Mom always knew, Dad is so nice: I don’t choose to be straight. And the sheep Lady is so awsome lovley.
I am a gay man. I was my mother's first born. I've found no other gays on my mother's side of the family but a fairly large percentage on my father's side. On my father's side their were nine
children in his father's family. There were five females but only one had any children and the only one had just one child. I don't seem to fit any of the "theories" so I do hope that science continues to research. The scientists may be on the right track but from my perspective they haven't hit the mark yet. However, I'm really glad that they're doing research in this area.
I am an only child, gay, and son of a mother who never had children before or since. As far as I know, there are no gay children on my mother's side. But there are at least three I know of on my father's side. Something else is at play here.
@@jmaraf7741 I agree with you.
I do believe the scientist said the first born has a 2% chance, it just increases for each child
Exactly the same here: I'm my mother's first child, no gays on her side of the family, quite a few on my father's side.
Thank-you for your efforts; I understand myself better now.
To me, the most important part is not whether you were born gay. The important part is that even if it were a choice, it’s no one else’s damn business. No one should have to justify their sexuality by saying “I can’t help it. I was born this way.”
Exactly, and I think the "born" sentiment doesnt help the Bi community in any way as their attraction to both could be perceived as a choice depending on who they "pick".
People justify their hatred for homosexuality by claiming that they choose to be gay.
P.S. I was born a natural adulterer. A friend I knew was born a pyromaniac. Many a politician is a born liar, which we all are to one degree or another. Others are born with violent angry dispositions. And this makes it all right? It's time for you to grow up and face yourself.
@@stephenking4170It’s no difference to anyone else who’s gay or straight. “The gays” are not after your children, they fight in our military, they’re research scientists and responsible citizens. Just because your intolerant, petulant twat of a mythical Sky Daddy doesn’t like them doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with them.
Tell me something. When did you CHOOSE to be straight?
@stephenking4170 THE gay rights movement began as a counter protest to the dehumanizing way that homosexuals were being treated by Christians selfishly seeking to humanize themselves through subjective comparison. Christian children were regularly thrown into the streets, gay men were murdered due to the permissive atmosphere caused by the dehumanization of homosexuality. Gay children in schools were beaten, spat upon, driven to suicide, called" faggot " continuously, etc. All due to that good old Christian love! Yet the formation of said dehumanization that leads to the permissive atmosphere for such things to occur is not considered wrong, because it is done under the guise of religion in order to justify hatred through delusional self validation.
This has me fascinated. My brother and I are both gay men and my mum only had us two. I can’t understand how both of us are gay but maybe she has this immune system disorder that turned me gay in the womb, she’s getting blamed this Christmas when I show her this documentary 😂😂
Those who really need to watch this will completely dismiss it out of hand and continue on their willfully uninformed and bigoted path.
Bigotry. It's in the Torah. The giving of it was witnessed by over 2 million people at Sinai. WItnessed it and had prophetic revelation. G-D says "no" to homosexuality, bestiality, and incest. Wanna justify the latter two?
@@mselbit All sexual relationships should be consensual, between adults capable of making informed choices, but then you know that.
Bestiality of course is not between consenting adults, as animals do not have the capacity to consider their situation and offer their consent.
Incest not only presents us with the problem of inbreeding, but as incest occurs within families there is the added possibility of coercion, with power dynamics and secrecy being added to the equation. if, however, it were to be same sex activity between two sisters or two brothers, with no coercion involved, I would have no problem with that.
Finally if you want to justify something using a book of old tales of unproven provenance, be it the Torah, the Bible or the Koran, go ahead, but don't expect society to be bound by that.
@@tonybennett4159 As I said, the Torah is not a "book of old tales." It is the blueprint of Creation. It has coded form and content that justifies its credibility beyond the fact that the Sinaic experience was witnessed by over 2 million with an unbroken chain of testimony, credence, and scholarship. I expect society to discover, very soon, that it has been bound all along to just the Noachide laws, not the 613 commandments the Jews are held to. Soon, the world will understand why the Flood and why Sdom was destroyed just as they came to understand why the public bathhouses were closed and thousands had to die from AIDS.
@@mselbit "It is the blueprint for Creation" is your claim, a claim I don't accept, it has to be demonstrated and carries no more weight than that of the Catholic church which claims there is an unbroken line from St Peter to the present pope.
You claim that the Torah is not a book of tales, yet you make reference to the flood, which is very much a tale, with no evidence in the geological record to support it. You also mention the story of Sodom, yet Lot was only too happy to offer his two daughters to the mob instead of the two strangers, for which the girls exacted revenge later in the tale by getting the old man drunk so they could mount him, all very immoral, and nothing that could possibly be interpreted as giving good lessons for life.
AIDS was prevalent in the gay community for a while in Western countries, but that was not the case in sub-Saharan Africa, so you present an unbalanced view if you mention the one and not the other. Now that, in the west at least, AIDS has largely been overcome, is this a sign that along with other infectious or contagious diseases it is losing its stigma? Would we not be better tackling the problem of human overflow into habitats mostly occupied by wild animals which it appears was the starting point for both HIV and COVID, and rather ominously for future lethal cross-overs?
There is no common ground between the two of us, as I will never accept ancient texts as being the word of god (or gods), or of pointing us to better ways of doing things, when our laws owe more to the enlightenment than they do to the ten commandments, only two of which (murder and theft) having any representation in our legal frameworks. Therefore it seems to me, we have little more we can usefully discuss.
Especially the Governors and residents of the Southern states, like desanti, for one. They are ignorant Republicans who God will judge one day. I pray that their God appears to them as a gay man. I wish I could see the looks on their faces when they have to tell God why being gay is wrong. After all God created us all for a reason.
A good addition to our timeless and universal existence. Thanks for your work to bring this to light.
Interesting documentary. Glad i watched it.
Extremely interesting and informative. Thank you.
As a straight man wanting to learn more and support the LGBT community, this was the best documentary I’ve watched yet on the topic. Thank you!
I think it's deeper than birth order. I am the older of two sons; I am gay, my brother's not. It is a mystery as to how it happens, but effectively it does.
Sexual attraction is clear, and who would feign to be gay?! It's a stupid theory to assert that gay people, men and women, are choosing same-sex attraction, implying that if we wanted to choose to be straight, we could. Religion is a huge cause of bigotry, without a doubt.
It simply is what it is. Throw convention into the nearest trash bin!
Yeah, So many of us are "bigoted" against other behaviour such as murder, burglary, theft, lying, cheating and other sins that degrade healthy society but should really be welcomed because it comes naturally to those people and they can't help themselves. You have a choice to live like an animal and view all your natural tendencies as something to simply obey as though they were instinct and you had no choice, no morality, no decency. But if you want to support a healthy society and thrive in it, then put aside destructive debasing behaviour or at least keep it to yourself if you insist on practising it or being sexually immoral. We don't want this stuff perpetually pushed in our faces on movies, TV, streets, media etc.
@@stephenking4170 Your reasoning is askew and offensive. To be expected from someone as yourself.
Yes, studies have found that mothers under stress can influence the child's sexuality. Know that the situation called for you to be who you are. You were needed.
@@btdfw Beautiful words, Bryan. I fully concur.
Every situation is an opportunity to evolve.
@@mikeq5807 Yes sir.
This was truly fascinating. Many thanks to everyone. 👍👏
Really i loved this documentary, His parents are so cute and his father gave the best answer ever! "I don't ever remember choosing to be straight"❤️❤️
I learned alot thanks!
I loved this show. My brother was gay. I was 13 and he was my favorite because he seemed more like my little sister. I miss him.
This is interesting. I have always believed that some guy people actually have genes that make them born that way. I think it's very rare. But many choose to be gay because of experiences. Some experimental. Others it's just to be in the in crowd because it is bringing attention to themselves. What I don't understand is why we are making such a big deal about it and why we are exploiting it. I have had many friends, co workers that were gay. We love each other for our characters and who we are. WE are all just human. We except differences in all of us. Stop making it a big deal.
@@margiehankins-jerde6094 he talked about fecundity. You don't need a whole gene. But genetic strategy. There are different factors.
@@margiehankins-jerde6094 To be “in the in crowd”? Can u tell me where to find this promised land love?
I am sorry your sweet brother is no longer with you.
@@dmmoctober I came out in high-school and was very popular. One of my straight friends started telling people he was gay I knew he wasn't and asked why would he lie and he stated he wanted to be popular like me
Extremely informative thank you. This definitely answers a lot of questions 🤪
I’m a heterosexual woman. This is fascinating. I wonder why gay men are generally so damn nice!
Winifred, something tells me that you are that "good girlfriend: to some gay guys!
To add to the complexity, there are gay men/women who have a strong desire to reproduce despite their same sex orientation.
1) There may be a desire, or peer pressure from a person's immediate culture, like parents, etc. to pass on one's genes. I am not sure it is an inward desire, but perhaps more a desire to please older generations of relatives or to please one's religious culture, etc. This is true of both gay males and lesbian females or bisexuals.
2) There is a segment from within gay males (as well as lesbians) to want to be nurturing. The propensity for nurturing appears to be much stronger in gay males (or third gender people) than heterosexual males. I think it is more the desire to nurture that leads to either wanting to have one's own kids, adopt kids, have surrogate kids, or help raise some other member of the family or circle of friends.
That does not necessarily mean they want to reproduce (by having same-gender sex). That means more that they want to share parenting and nurturing skills with kids either in their own family or outside their family. That is in part why a larger percentage of male teachers are gay as compared to their number in the population.
@@HenryJuhala 1) Also true for heterosexuals. Only the individual can express why he/she/they really may or may not want kids. 2) A slight correction to your statement through an analogy - most Asian Americans don't like doing other people's laundry or owning laundromats. It's an occupation that was made open to them by a society that closed off other opportunities. The same goes for gay men, or gay people in general. Higher percentages can be found in education, theater, etc because they were the only places that society relegated them to.
Wow, I recall my Mom reading about the 'gay gene' and wanting to understand more about it. She has long since passed on. But she would have LOVED this documentary. It is really great work you have done putting so many of these pieces together. Thank you.
The homo-haters should be required to watch this. It makes so much sense about Born vs Choice and helps explain how "normal" gayness is to all of Nature
Homosexuality is definitely not normal in nature, neither is it common. In some birds e.g. Kokako, Male to male pair bonding occurs when females are removed from a population by predators and the birds simply act out instinctive social behaviour for survival. But they aren't humping.
Many examples given are simply juveniles or adolescents playing, experimenting which is not homosexuality. Captive animal behaviour counts for nothing natural.
Femae bonobos engage in frequent acts of lesbianism to assert social dominance. So if you want to take your morals from nature do you propose that Female employers should engage in lesbian rape of employees to assert their position? DO you propose that men should kill the infants of transient girlfriends to perpetuate their own genetic dominance? Do you really think that we should take our morals and sense of decency from nature? No, we are all made in the image of God, with a soul, spirit and conscience. Those descending to animal behaviour need to be lifted up and heled to get back on the path, not left with the animals.
What about the adultery gene? It's much more common. Poor misunderstod adulterers. Let's give them a break !
Half way thru watching this I wanted to show this to all homo-haters too!
Then I realized something...
Unfortunately, those cray-cray homo-haters wud balk at this science just like they did about the science of wearing mask's.
😞😞😞
What about the murder and lie gene?
Fabulous response from your dad: I don't remember chosing to be straight...nailed it..hugs to his honesty which is a thing homophobes uses against gay people, we alledgedly choose to be gay..
Bravo! This was incredibly well done.
I’m am truly at a loss for words for i am the fifth child of eight with two older brothers and I am gay! I knew that I was different at the age of four. We were playing house and I wanted a husband! when I came out to my older brothers they told to tell them something they that they didn’t know already in other words they knew forever they were really sweet about it
I met a guy in college who had 4 other siblings... All gay. Crazy right?!?
all that meant wa syou identified with your mom a lot, or needed more time and affection with your dad, BUT that isn't what homosexuality is. Obviously it's an issue lots of gay ppl have, and can lead up to it ( proven).
@@theCosmicQueen -- The notion that men are gay because they identified too closely with their mom or had failed or poor bonding relationships with their dad has been studied, peer-reviewed by scientists and medical professionals and proven to be false many times over. There is absolutely no bonafide scientific or medical evidence that what you say is true. It is a myth of the ex-gay, conversion therapy movement. Having close bonds with a mother and less-close or absent bonds with a father or vice versa is no predictor of whether their children will be gay or lesbian.
@@theCosmicQueennot really.
I figured that out before I found this program of yours it just proves it to me that I am right. It is something in our brains!
I'm a better gay, a better person after watching this video. Merci.
Years ago, I had a female co-worker whose first two sons were gay. She then had a heterosexual female child, after which she had a pair of fraternal twins, M & F, who were both gay. Four out of five children turned out gay. I've always thought they would make an interesting case study for some research project.
I wish there were documentaries like this explaning bissexuality and lesbianism 😭. Please, considere producing them as well, I'd love to watch them and I'm certain others would too😊
And gender identity/transgender “reasons”, as well.
Very interesting and well-made documentary, congratulations! As someone who had gay feelings and orientation some 5 years prior to learning "the facts of life", I knew that it was not specifically a sexual driven choice and also not influenced by any individual or particular environment. In my over 70 years I have met gay people of all orientations, both male and female, exhibiting the entire range of human characteristics. The tired stereotypes of old have always been much too inadequate to define the concept of "gay orientation". As this piece illustrates, hopefully educated people from various disciplines will continue to seek some scientific explanations beyond the social and religious bigotry which sadly impacts so much of human and societal attitudes.
William, well said friend!🙂
this comment needs to be pinned... bravo!
They missed out two aspects that it acts as a population limiter from when in the wild and if the mother is very highly stressed during pregnancy, the outcome of a gay son becomes stronger?
Caring shows up in natural populations too- re the survival of the fittest is about the group, not the individual? Within tribes of African dog species (hopefully still alive- endangered,) if an animal is critically injured for surviving, the others will nurture it and look after it: A dog received a very bad compound leg fracture where the bone was sticking out of which could not heal to be useful. It became a 3 legged surviver. There were dogs that bring it food, guard it and would walk with it when the tribe moved on to a new area, for whatever reason.
David Attenborough observed this outcome when they first saw a dog with a very bad break that was unsurvivable to it's living environment they said. They visited these dogs again two years later and to their surprise the dog was still alive and they saw how it was cared for.
Survival is not simple, there are many factors governing it.
fascinating!
Are there any similar studies for gay women?
Excellent video. This guy is very talented. Wonder who financed this video and arranged the interviews, etc.
None of this seems to fit my family. My son, first born, is gay. My side (women) didn’t have a a lot of kids. If anything, by looking at my son’s father lineage, it comes from his side. I went to art school and my closest friends are gay. One friend stated that out of all of his friends, he’s glad that I had a gay child. I am too❤
As a scientist I have tried to take the "metacognitive" angle to look into my own orientation. The scientific approach certainly offers a better explanation than that of my Roman Catholic convert, Republican brother-in-law, i.e. That I am demonically possessed.
Your brother-in - law is taking a misinformed point of view. The Church would acknowledge your orientation but its teaching (up until recently) would teach that you must be celebrate. Pope Francis and many Bishops - especially the German ones talk about "inclusiveness." Traditionally the church teaches that homosexuality is intrinsically wrong but it does not condemn a gay guy as someone who is influenced by the devil. By the way, there are many gay priests including bishops who are gay.
@@johnbradbury4000 Do you think priest are using the Church to hid their homosexuality?
@@johnbradbury4000 My mother was like that. She was like okay you're gay, just don't have sex. Why are Catholics so against sex. Growing up Catholic made me really feel ashamed I was gay.
@@anthonyboarman3833 : You and me both. The first person I ever spoke to about it was a preist and he told me to be celebate. 6 months later at my brother’s wedding I began a downward spiral after seeing that I’d never experience the love that he had found. 6 months later came a suicide attempt. I’ve honestly never recovered even though it was 30 years ago. That religion ruined my entire life
@@pjesf That's dreadful! The take home of this program for me is that gay people - you and I - have been a HUGE asset to the family tribe. We have allowed tribal communities to flourish for millions of years, by aiding the extended family. I am proud of that! What we see in Samoa, must have existed right across the globe in different variations of this form.
Awesome work! Mr host man, you are gorgeous and well spoken 🌈 and the production on this must have taken ages! Thank you for sharing ❤️
...and funny.
That was amazing. His question "How do we survive" is a great question. I learned from all the parts of this.
I think being gay is also about who you have romantic fantasies about and who you have your deepest relationships with. It's not just about getting aroused.
Because arousal is instinctive, and that's entirely what sexuality is about.
@@valmiro4164 What JJoiesCooking is pointing out, is that romantic orientation is not the same as erotic orientation, even if the two seem to extensively overlap most of the time. Romantic orientation is also heavily instinctual at its core.
Gay is a statement about identity, which is broader that just sexual arousal. JJ is just saying that for them, sexual arousal is not the most significant part of that identity. This is true for many people.
In the video, the word Gay is used with various shades of meaning - often specifically as a self identity label - so JJ's comment is on topic. Your reply is correct in the limited context you mean it, but that limited context does not address JJ's comment.
@@davidenos1277 Untrue according to latent homosexual men who come out later in life. They love their family and would do absolutely anything for them, it's why some took decades to come out. But I've never heard of a single one of them staying in a relationship with the woman they loved. You'd think it would be more prevalent with them, what with the sentimentality involved in families. But no, it always ends up in divorce. In the few cases where they remained together, none involved romantic attraction.
I've only ever heard of these "special cases" among younger people who want to feel special but are so profoundly average in everything, from looks to intelligence, to actually stand out. It might have something to do with that.
@@valmiro4164 You say "untrue" but don't specify what exactly you intend to contradict, so I'm assuming what you are opposing is the idea that there is such a thing as romantic orientation? Are you saying that the sex and gender of the person you fall in love with is irrelevant? That you could just as easily be in love with a person with a penis as a person with a vagina, as a person who presents as male, as a person who presents as female, as a person who is non-binary, etc?
That might be true for you, it is true for some people. But its not true for me or many other people. Ask your friends and other people around you if they don't have a romantic preference, separate from obvious sexual attraction. I think you're a little short on evidence.
If I'm responding to the wrong idea - then stop trying to argue and just clearly state your point.
@@valmiro4164 Also, you need to reread my post. You mention that a gay male can still love his wife and children. Sure. But that's not romantic love, which is the point I was addressing. If these gay men indeed do feel romantic love for their wives, then that is actually supporting my point as a rare example of how romantic attraction is not the same as sexual attraction. Read what bisexual men and women say about this - many talk about how their romantic attractions do not always follow their sexual attractions. Even heterosexual entertainment is full of stories where one is sexually attracted to people that one is incapable of falling in love with, and visa versa.
Keep in mind we're not talking about the general emotion commitment we call love, which most people can feel about just about anyone given the right circumstances, nor are we talking about the emotions of excitement and attraction that accompany physical attraction, but specifically about romantic love - the emotions and mental states unique to mating.
This is so interesting but creates more questions than answers them. None of us choose anything, we just are who we are, which makes me very happy.
Our choices are what make us who we are.
I love the video. Life should be about accepting and loving yourself and finding out what you truly like to do. Never listen to the opinions of others if they're negative in nature. You are fine just the way you are
Great video, as a straight guy, this was amazing and literally had everything you could ever want
I am gay, third son of 4 siblings. My mother's brother (my uncle) has a forth child, third son (gay). I was tested in high school as to what my vocation could be after graduation. It said, florist, hair dresser and that type thing. I ended up a diesel mechanic, truck driver, power station mechanic, lineman so there's something to think about. However; in the arts department I was an accomplished vocalist in school with two scholarships for my voice. I also married, had two children, divorced and remarried a man. Together 26 years now. I am happy and I know I am where I'm supposed to be. I didn't chose to be gay, I chose to live...gay.
I'm just curious. What would be your response to those who would say that, because you were married with children first, that you clearly chose to be gay. I'm just wondering. 😊 thanks.
@@lynnbaker2336 I would tell the truth...I got married to a woman for several reasons, one: to be like everyone else and not deal with who I knew I was.
I am 80 years old and knew I was different from a very young ago. And no I was never abused
Excellent film...entertaining and informative
This is fascinating really.
Omg.. Bryce your journey was so much fun and so very informative..from canada, to la, to italy to samoa to montana.. to the end of the world.. I want your job.
That was awesome. Thanks 🙏.
Exactly: ask yourself straight people, did you “choose” to be straight? If you chose to be straight that means you entertained the choice of being gay but “chose” to be straight instead
*YOU SAID: "Exactly: ask yourself straight people, did you “choose” to be straight? If you chose to be straight that means you entertained the choice of being gay but “chose” to be straight instead."*
(sigh - the gay insanity never ends) No human chooses to be straight because all humans are literally and objectively born hetero-sexual in construct. We know, objectively, that each of us is actually defined by a biological marriage of two other human identities both marked by sex-- male + female, DAD + MOM. This is not about "feeeelings" and it is not about how we are made. It is about what we literally and objectively are, right now. We have Mom's eyes and Dad's nose because, *fundamentally,* we are MOM+DAD. In short, we are literal marriages that are always heterosexual in construct. This is The Human Order, and homosexuality is obviously outside of and in principle contrary to it. It is therefore humanly *DISORDERED.*
Indeed, all other alleged "orientations" are disordered. They are also unproven - unlike the heterosexual male+female order that literally defines us all. They are just someone's claim that must be accepted on *blind faith.* All humans are actual heterosexuals in construct. If your feelings run in accord with this, then they are within the human order. If they are contrary to it, then logically you have an actual mental disorder because your mind is twisted against what you literally are.
@@oscarbenigsen4538 okay. So then why do sr8 people always say gay people CHOSE to be gay? I never said it was a choice Str8 people say that. So using their logic they chose to be str8. Oh I see it’s only a choice if you are gay? Right. I don’t WANT to have sex with a woman because it repulses me. Give me a break. It’s not a mental disorder. ITS TOTALLY ABOUT FEEEELINGS as you sarcastically put it. If you didn’t FEEL sexually attracted to females would you choose to have sex with them just because “ it’s the way it should be? No , you have sexual URGES or FEEEELINGS. to have sex with them. No I was not born str8 sorry . Yeah I chose to be gay just because I want to be in a minority that is prejudiced against? Use your brain. Btw, why did you even watch this documentary if you already have made your mind up about us being perverts? Why waste your time watching it? Also sexually orientation is not a mental disorder. Proven decades ago. Just because I’m born with a dick doesn’t mean I’m searching for a vagina. Yes in CONSTRUCT we are born male or female. It doesn’t mean I want pussy just because “ it’s the way it should be”. So I’m guessing married heterosexuals are not part of the “ human order “ if they don’t procreate and are not “ MOM and DAD “ and have children? ( especially say heterosexual marrying in their 60s). Btw that was part of your “human order”, mom and dad. Just saying.
This was a really clear and easily understood summary of the scientific evidence proving that gayness is innate, biologically determined and not a choice.
It was always more complex than a simple “gay gene”.Epigenetics that control the genes of each person are if anything, more fundamental to the fact the biological determinism behind being gay.
If we add to epigenetics the fact that Simon Levaye proved that gay men have different brain structures(in the hypothalamus),then it’s undeniable that people really are born gay.
Religious fundamentalists need to accept this body of scientific evidence and treat gay people with equality and dignity.
Great doc, thanks!
Thank you so much. You are a great guy
I’ve always wanted to learn more about this concept of nature versus nurture in relation to sexual orientation. So fascinating.
I don't believe the gay scientist in this documentary, *when he said the 30% possibility that the next son will be gay, I laughed with SCORN!* My older brother before me was gay, and also my younger brother...all of the sons in my parent's crib *...because Dad was a "designer" who married his ego-choice and not his biological choice and ended up hating me most of all, because I did NOT pretend like his more "deserving" sons.*
@@serpentlaw5961 33% MORE chance of being gay* 2% at start and goes up, any chance is still a chance dude. Also sorry your situation sucked.
@@serpentlaw5961 -- Year after year, the theory of younger fraternal siblings continues to prove the theory that the likelihood of younger siblings to be gay is true.
@@HenryJuhala Younger siblings? Come on, every singer and artisan and even IT and the designers in every field are gay, but hide behind marriage for an ego! Often the firstborn elder son is gay and hiding because he's the family pride, ...don't start me off. My entire family relations were living a charade and pointing finger. The word's damn overpopulation is because of all the pretenses and hiding going on.
@@serpentlaw5961 -- I am not denying that there are not gay first born sons. But, when you look at scientifically significant statistics that show patterns, there are no patterns or propensity for first born sons to be gay over any other birth order of sons.
But, there is a greater percentage chance of anyone who is born after the first born to be gay than there is of the first born to be gay. And there is a greater chance the third born son is gay than either the first or the second. And even greater for the 4th son and so on.
There is a statistical pattern there that gets statistically greater after each time a prior son is born. If say 5 percent of the total population is gay, that means that one in every 20 sons should be gay. But, that is not how it works. There is a far less chance an older son or an only son will be gay than the younger son of multiple fraternal children born of the same mother.
It seems not to matter who the father is. It is the physiology/biology inside the mother's womb that somehow tells her or her genes to cut back on the heterosexuality of a son the more sons she has and to give birth to a son or sons who are predetermined in her womb to be gay instead.
And it does not matter if the sons stay in the same household after birth. One or mor could be adopted out or live with the father and a different mother. And there is still a greater chance that the son with older fraternal (male) siblings is gay than there is that the older son would be gay. That seems to indicate that this is a function of predisposition at birth from within the mother's womb and not a matter of the environment in which they grew up in.
It is the same with twins. There is still a greater chance that one of two twins is born gay than there is of just two non-twin brothers to be gay. And it does not matter if the twins lived their life in the same household or were separated and raised apart.
All this indicates a higher propensity that people are born gay at the point they come out of the womb and that environment (where and with whom they live) has very little to do with them being gay or not.
It is logical that the more children born, the larger the chance is for a child to be gay!
I find it hilarious that within two seconds of seeing the twin with the blue shirt, I knew he was the gay one
Interesting documentary. The conclusion? Nobody knows anything . Leave people alone and let them pursue their own lives happily.
Would anyone believe that when I first knew I was gay at 12, in parochial school, i had no problem with it? I never questioned it, felt guilt and knew I was wired that way. I fit no stereotype growing up, I was just a regular kid. ❤ I just liked boys not girls. I loved ding dongs. That's pretty much it. Also looking back into my earliest elementary school years, I was attracted to boys as far back as kindergarten. True story.
When you say ding dongs, are you talking about doorbells? If so, there's a word for people like you! ❤
@@farfisa 😆 🤣 😂
I knew I was gay at three years old. Period.
Superb documentary!
This is excellent and so very important. I agree that people need to understand and not be ignorant. But it’s going along with what I’ve always believed. Even going beyond why one identical twin can be gay and one not! I will be sharing this.
Yes, BRAVO, Bryce. Super interesting video. Thanks so much and BTW, you'll be a great Guncle.
These B-role shots are everything
I too wondered why I was gay when I was young, for a while I was even suicidal thinking I was the only one. At least a gay guy who got in brawls, worked on cars, was super competitive, loves to argue/debate.
As time went on, I realized we are just helping to control the population, and like everyone, developed skills and abilities that make life interesting. I realize many gay guys couldn’t pass for hero, and I have numerous hetro friends who are intellectuals and are often thought to be gay, but they’re not.
It’s also a gene that makes us gay, so Darwin wouldn’t have anything to do with it. Just accept it and live your life.
"Just accept it and live your life"? Yeah, and thieves and murderers are also just born with genes that predispose them to such stupid decisions and impulses in life. "Just accept it and let them get on with being thieves and murderers". One thing that sets humans apart from animals is conscience and ability to make moral choices to alter their behaviour for the good and wellbeing of themselves, their future (temporal and eternal) and for the good of others.
I ended up having depression cause of my orientation and then mental heath problems cause I turn hard drugs and fried my brain its been a long process but things are getting better.
@@stephenking4170 ......so do you think someone who has same sex feelings should get with the opposite sex?.........thieves and murderers choose to do so -- gays dont choose to be.......ive made moral choices all my life and i live my life for me not to please others such as yourself who is clueless.
@@stephenking4170 You are comparing homosexuality to being a thief or murderer?! Please have a seat! Homosexuals find their lives change for the better once they understand who they are. Nothing wrong with being yourself. I'm not going to be who you want me to be. Get real.
@Opal Allen I did exactly what you did in the end hoply things are getting better now for me now but its been one hell of a ride.
Full suit climbing rocks!! FaBuLouS 🥰🥰 and that mullet *chefs kiss* 😘
Great video! Cheers guys!
Love the little pink orbs at 3:00. Fabulous!