Do you know if the samsung galexy note 9 get android 14 update????? That would be awesome. I have the note 9 and I hope it will get android 14 update make last just a little bit longer.
@@kehi19 gotta be early last year, right? Cuz these vendors are calling the 128gb/12gb variant 420k/430k. Dollar rate just dey worsen everything. I wanna buy but I'm still saving. Problem is, the longer I save, the worse the dollar rate seems to become. Frustrating, really.
The downside of more software support from manufacturers is that it will take longer for the older flagships price to go down, and by the time the prices are low enough there *might be* a better midrange device with better hardware for the same price
The midrange needs for at least 5 years to catch a flagship. So it's fine. That's why the best value flagship that we could buy is the previous 2-3 generation from the current existing.
I've recently ordered the S24 Ultra and plan to trade in my S22 Ultra for extra cashback. During my time with the S22 Ultra, I discovered an unexpected issue. Initially, I believed the AMOLED screen was free from any burn-in. However, upon closer inspection of the area behind the status bar, I noticed faint signs of burn-in. This was surprising, especially after learning that OneUI 6.0 lacks specific AMOLED burn-in protection features. The light burn-in on my screen was disappointing. To address this, I've started using Good Lock's QuickStar to disable all icons on the status bar, which helps, but it's a workaround. I believe a built-in feature for auto-hiding the status bar in future Android updates would be highly beneficial. It would not only enhance the overall user experience but also play a crucial role in preventing screen burn-in, especially in static areas like the status bar.
@Nahianislam2007 let's see what they will give me with Samsung's exchange phone cashback. There are some bad experiences by customers so I hope I do not get scammed by Samsung. 😅🫠🤷♂️
@@Nahianislam2007our note20 ultra are like 600$ in trade in for the s24ultra, i think thats a pretty high trade value if you are thinking of upgrading.
It's an oled panel my dude, what the actual hell we're you expecting? There is nothing you can do. If you use the screen long enough it will eventually burn out. There is only so much you can do, but most apps don't have burn in protection.
You are absolutely right. It's better to buy a older flagship than a budget or mid-range phone. I only disagree if you can get a budget or mid-range phone that has great performance, good cameras, a great display, a headphone jack, expandable storage, great battery life and a IR Blaster. That pretty much describes my Redmi Note 11 pro. I love that device. The only thing that's missing for me is a always on Display and wireless charging. Also I get 67watt Super fast wired charging on it.
@@vernonleewarren280 I dont have that phone my father has, is not laggy is just slow and cannot keep up with my Poco F5. The topic was on budget phones with powerful processors, it wasnt midrange in his time let alone now almost 2 years later.
100% agree with you, there are tons of great phones now with 3-4 years of operating system updates and now with some doing 7 years affordable prices will be around the corner on flagship devices, I bought a Motorola thinkphone for 394 including taxes a month ago sd8 gen1 plus 144hz screen and interesting enough I’m on a January security patch on this phone needed an android backup to my 14 pro max and this phone fills the gap at a cheaper price may not be a flagship but I’m enjoying it and no performance issues whatsoever.
Running an S10+, and I gotta say, I am perfectly happy with it, and due to the extra hardware features it has since it's an older flagship (SD card, headphone jack, Bixby Button which I have made into a quick action flashlight, etc.), I don't even want to upgrade!
Samsung s10 + it can be a still a beast but you don't gonna have updates and security updates you still gonna use it ? İsnt it better you go for maybe for Samsung s21 cus it's also good but with still have updates?
The problem with this is actually the brand itself. Most of Android's flagship would not be produced when a new generation hit the market. For example Samsung just launched S24 series, which means soon enough they will cut the S23 series out of market. It would be hard to find a new phone in box with full warranty.
Not sure which country you are from but off the top of my head it seems like they keep old stock of phone in major telecom providers and big box stores in America. I think most stores here keep the older phone for at least a year. Apple usually keeps phones that are two years old in their stores.
@@peterparker2068 Actually Samsung's A series phones have sd card slots the newest are the A15 and the A54 last year they have released newer model A55 this year also with sd card slots here in America because people still want them they are not the only ones
I do believe the subject at hand refers to used and or refurbished flagship phones not last years still in the box model as that would still make the phone more then most mid-rangers making this video pretty pointless
Used to thing that midrange phones were the bees knees after getting a Nexus 5 through my carrier. I didn't see the need to get a Samsung or Apple phone. Then my gf and I upgraded to the Note 8 and it was over for me. I can never see myself rocking a midrange anything anymore. S21 FE was fantastic, was hoping that the 23 FE would come with a 512GB variant, but I'm holding out for now. Love the channel man!
@@matthews-tech 3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading... Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
Mid range people don't know what they're missing so they're happy. But it's hard going backwards to mid range. I think needing software updates and the latest flagship SOC is marketing. Laptops have been using older SOCs. Samsung S23fe SOC is 2 years old but re-engineering has brought it up to standards. Give me a 2/3 year old flagship SOC version the latest mid range SOC.
A solid midrange phone does everything I need with ease and that's the same for the majority of users. I'd rather get a new midranger with long software support and a healthy battery.
I love my S20 FE, which is the upper mid-range phone. I got it in June 2021 and its still working for now. I did drop it accidentally a few times when it slipped out of my pocket and never once cracked. I do use a screen protector and a case.
@GwenyTheGirl I say if you can you should go for the s21 fe. The A54 takes better pictures in low light than the s20 fe and also has better battery life
@Mike.Tech. The S20 FE, which is still a great phone and I am not upgrading yet.The camera is still fine, it lasts me the whole day with light to moderate use.
S20 fe was a great phone. I've had one before. It's outdated now and not so outstanding anymore. I would recommend sell it and go for an s21 fe or and s21+ . . Or if you want to make an affordable big jump go for an s23 fe. If you're lucky you can find an open box condition for around $400-$450.
I've been buying old flagship devices for awhile now. I bought the S8 when it first launced. When it came time to getting a new phone I ended up buying a refurbished Note 8 since I loved the S8 so much. That started a trend. I started going to Backmarket for older affordable flagship devices. Got my first and Note 10, followed by the S22 Ultra.
You can get a one plus 10 for 300 in like New condition. My husband has a one plus 7 and he loves it. It's a great phone. I have a note 20 ultra and don't plan to give it up anytime soon.
@matthews-tech i agree with you, getting an older flagship is way better than getting these midrange and budget phones because with an older flagship you get better display, speakers, cameras, build quality, processor etc.
I used my Samsung Note 8 and 10+ for 2 and 4.5 years because I needed the s pen. Now my work doesn't need it anymore, I chose Samsung A55 because I need a good well-round but not overkill phone. Flagship or midrange, make sure you know what you need.
I bought my S10+ two years ago for 300 EUR, refurbished with 3 years warranty and physical condition like new. It's still holding up very well for my needs, including (light) gaming, basic video editing and Dex use. The battery is degrading naturally, but still gives 6-7 hours constant use easily, and could be replaced for 50-100 moneys without doing it myself. Really not bad for a 5 year old one that gets used and charged a lot. Software updates stopped last year, but no compatibility issues so far, so who cares? Best decision I've made in terms of phones for many years. Easily good for another 2 years or more. Then I'll do the same with a newer model.
My only problem buying old flagship over midrange phones is the battery life. I Work almost exclusively outside so is rare for me to find outlet to charge my phones, and i dont want to carry bulky powerbank
Midrange and budget phones have ALWAYS been worse than old flagships. This is nothing new. Budget phones always lose to 3 or 5 year old flagships in price and specs.
I had Note 20 Ultra, but unfortunately screen started having problems and battery life was horrible, so I went for S22 Ultra like a year ago. It's still a very good phone today, only thing which is not so good is battery life, but I get along with that somehow, it gets me through the day.
Before I bought a new A53, I thought I'd try the S20Fe. Experiencing image stabilization, a phone that never freezes or lags, the quality of the sound and the screen was amazing. Snapdragon is a lifechanger. I can never own a non flagship phone again. Older flagships are like buying 2nd hand luxury cars, it comes with its risks, but you access amazing features that'll most midrange phones will never get. With a flagship, you experience the best a company has to offer When my S20fe fell and broke after 2 years, I replaced it with another one. It's so good, I can't even justify upgrading to an S23
4:45 As good of a phone as the S21 FE is it is actually more expensive than the S21 regular because the S21 FE is only 2 weeks older than the S22. Important thing to note.
Im running an s20 and plan to hold on until Black Friday or the s25 series to pick up the s24 since it has the 7 years. Can you do a video or comment on using phones past their system update cycle?
@@matthews-tech 3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading... Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
Battery life is the biggest obstacle for a lot of people from buying older flagships over midrangers. A used best up battery is always a NO NO for 90% of people when they pay their hard earned money to get a "new" phone.
Android phones tend to drop more due to competition after 12 months. So you will often see good offers on launch, then another 2 months later before it gets drowned out by new announcements.
I hate to disagree with you but as of recently, you get 90% of the phone for a 1/4th of the price going with a midrange phone. maybe a decade ago buying a flagship was worth it but with advances in tech a midrange phone will give 90% of the performance as a flagship. Most people will not even notice a difference in performance between a flagship and a midrange phone. I used to only buy flagship phones and started with a galaxy s2 way back in the day when it actually made a difference. Then I did what you recommended and got older flagships. I had a flagship phone break that was 2 years old and didn't have the budget for a newer flagship so I bought a midrange and was pissed when it outperformed my flagship phone and cost less then half what that broken one would have cost to replace. Phones have came so far that unless you are gaming heavy or uploading videos it is not at all worth spending money on any flagship phone. Heck a 2 year old flagship s22 still cost $200 more then a a35 right now.
I always make the same point...older flagships are still great, s10/note10 lineup, s20/note20 lineup, still far better than any lower and mid tier smartphones, better processor, premium build, ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, wireless and reverse wireless charging, triple cameras, night mode, Super Amoled displays still the best in the game...the list goes on, even Oneplus 7 pro, beautiful, fast charge, 90hz, bezeless oled, older flagships are the best, but alot of people I know real want something new and sealed...they just waste money on something worst
I haven't been too happy with my old mid-ranger Galaxy A52-S and really considering something with better performance, bigger screen, and better cam with telephoto - like a renewed S22 Ultra or Pixel 7pro. Never bought a used phone and still nervous about battery health and getting a lemon...
I bought a used iPhone XR off eBay. Loved it (I think having one camera looks very smart 😊) But the camera wasn’t working right. It was blurry. So I took it to a repair shop, they tried contacting Apple and Apple said certain parts in the phone wasn’t genuine. Luckily the repair shop didn’t charge me, they said “you need to get your money back on that”. And only because of the eBay guarantee I got my money back (seller was refusing).
I love your channel man! Great content and you are so right. I still have my S21 Ultra and will keep it for as long as I can. As a standby I still have my Note 10 Plus which is also still great. However the S21 Ultra is without doubt the best phone ever made and the fact you can buy a pristine second hand one for a few hundred bucks is just crazy!
Midrange phones make sense if they're 65-80% of what the current flagship is. Most midrange phones are only 30%-50%. This is especially true in the processor and gpu. It's a disgrace.
Beautifully said. I bought the Samsung A53 and the processor is total garbage. The cameras are incredible, the screen is excellent, but the CPU is just so bad, I can't even play Omega Strikers on lowest settings without framedrops. Switching apps is a lagfest. I absolutely should have bought an older flagship, the S21 is dramatically stronger while having the same high quality cameras and screen.
It make me so mad too because the "professional reviews" of the A53 called it snappy and responsive, yet if you search "A53 slow" or "A53 lag" you'll find a ton of people encountering the exact same issues with the phone. They promised "oh it'll likely optimized in a future update" which never happened lol
@@vvvios The A53's Exynos 1280 is on par with 5 year old flagships in tasks requiring only a single CPU core, but it's 35-38% slower in tasks requiring more cores. This is why original reviews said it felt snappy and now it's incredibly laggy. It can't be fixed. As the CPU ages, the multi core deficiencies will become more apparent.
Damn right! Ended up trading in a Samsung Galaxy A53 for an iPhone 14 since the processor was total garbage! Videos wouldn’t upload to TH-cam, struggled to upload photos and videos to google photos to. Worst phone I’ve had, just couldn’t do anything I wanted it to. The cameras, screen and the SD card slot were really nice but like you said. The processor is absolute garbage!
I didn't watch the video yet, but lemme tell you from my previous mid range phones experience, which i bought many times over the years. Long story short, NEVER BUY MID RANGE, IT'S A TRAP, ALWAYS BUY A FLAGSHIP EVEN IF A 4 YEAR OLD PHONE. I'm currently using, in 2024, Samsung Note 9 and Samsung S9, both almost 6 year old from 2018. I assure you that both are far much more superior and better than all recent mid range phones, especially when it comes to the camera.
We have longer updates but the price of flagship phones don't drop as much as they used to. Few years ago android flagships after 1-2 years were on 50% of their price or even less, now after 1-2 years they drop 30% with is a joke. In EU prices not falling like they used to few years ago, if in your regions prices falling down more drastically then go for it, but if 2 years old flagship in new condition is not 50% down than I wouldn't buy it. Regarding refurbished phones, I wouldn't recommend them if you don't buy them in real life, many refurbished phones from online stores look much worse than they describe them. You think you will be getting pristine one, and they send you one with scratches all over it.
The reason to get a brand new phone over a same price old flagship is because I'd rather spend the same money on a brand new phone with warranty then risk getting a second hand phone that I might have to get repaired. Don't know how long it's been gamed on or screen burn in or dropped anything.
I think the only reason the older flagships sell really cheap is because of their older software. So of you're right and the tech giants start moving towards giving a lot more years worth of OS updates to their flagships, those price drops we see in older flagships will slowly disappear... Especially if everyone wakes up and starts buying older flagship phones.
One question if you purchase an older android phone in which the life cycle for OS and Security updates has already ended will the phone automatically update to the latest OS and security update that was available for the phone?
I recently got an Oppo A96 which was one of the brands flagship phones in Nigeria in 2022. I must say that's the best decision i made. It offers way too much value and performance for thr Price. I only upgraded it to Android 13 but i have never regretted it. It outperformed all the latest budget / midrange phones i wanted to buy as their value were not commensurate with the prices in my own estimation
OIder flagship is always gonna be better than a new budget or mid range. Had the a52 and couldnt put up with the fingerprint scanner, stuttering, poor software optimization, bad camera, etc..s21 fe is 10x better in specs and user experience. Always get the S model samsungs, even from a few yrs back. Software updates mean nothing when the software optimization was poor to begin with.
I have an A53 right now. It hasn't been terrible. It was honestly pretty good until I updated the software. Now it's pretty slow and buggy. I'm thinking about getting an older flagship S series phone.
I am still using my HTC U11+ upto now. Bought years ago as second hand for the purpose of backup unit until I feel comfortable making this as my daily driver. Though software updates were long gone, altered android 9 ROM, running OK, battery OK, only plays classic words, the only drawback is only few people know about HTC.
Only advantage to the latest mid range over an older flagship is better battery and newer modems. I'm not overly sold on needing the latest software updates unless it improves reception or performance. I say this because many S20's don't get 5g in Canada and have limited 5g bands. The US versions, with same hardware, have more applied bands. For some reason they shutdown bands in Canada.
my s6edge plus is 9 years old.. older than my 2 children i think it ancient 🤣🤣🤣 . runs on android 7 still works for me. battery life is still okay am not a heavy user so i dnt think i notice all that stuff.and yes older flagship work well.
midranges and low budget phones are very hard to trade in, everything is a lot easier with a flagship phone. Think about it, if you trade in a flagship phone for a newer flagship, you're basically paying midrange/low-budget price for flagship with a trade-in.
I have zero reasons to upgrade from my s22 ultra. In extremely good condition and fairly new. But i will upgrade when ever samsung Gonna come with 1” main camera.. hopefully s25 ultra
I bought an 21+ last month instead of an a55 and I don't regret my decision, it's fast enough with ok battery life. I hope to keep it for like 2 years.
Call me crazy but the cameras on my S20FE were better than my current Galaxy Z Flip 5, which is admittedly a bit faster, but not earth-shatteringly so. The only real upgrade that my current flagship-level phone offers is its folding form factor, which is really handy.
I got the s21 fe, i really love this phone so much. So, of course the battery won't be the best, but it's usable. And this phone it's powerful, it take amazing pictures.
I bought a refurbished s21 and I'm never buying one again. It was supposed to be excellent but arrived in a very used condition and isn't waterproof bc it's refurbished and has been opened. They're good if you don't care about waterproof like I do.
If water resistance is so important to you, do not risk buying a refurbished, or even a used phone from someone who is careful. Water resistance is affected by wear and tear of those seals. Besides, there are some midrangers having some sort of water protection.
Nobody selling an old phone tells you the battery health of the phone. Ha ha. Be prepared for battery to degrade very quickly after using it for a year. Because the phone will have been used for about 2 years by then in total if youre lucky.
The only worry of buying a used flagship phone is battery and warranty. So if it is almost new (some old phone are barely used), then no real reason to buy a mid ranger
The problem is flagship stores, in my country at least, don't sell old flagships. Like if you wanted that s21 fe, you'll have to look for alternative stores, and you risk getting scammed.
Here I am with my refurbished Mi 10 Ultra on the EU ROM and it still feels fast and snappy, has great cameras, charges to full in 23 minutes, while still having the horsepower to play demanding mobile games like ZZZ and Wuthering Waves at almost or at 60fps tho I have to adjust my settings a bit to reduce overheating (playing in an air conditioned room or pointing a fan at the screen gives me stable 60 fps everytime 😂)
I doubt other manufacturers will match the long software update policies. OnePlus has already said they wouldn’t. It makes sense for Samsung since they are the number one manufacturer of Android devices worldwide. The cost of software development is lower for them because they sell so many more units. For Google, they don’t need to make money off their hardware but rather showcase their software. This was Google’s goal with the Nexus line, which offered great budget devices. Pixel phones don’t even sell worldwide. Each manufacturer targets their own price point. Motorola might not offer long support for their budget/midrange line, but when they are on sale, they are quite inexpensive. Considering the price, I can’t really complain about the lack of software support. Many Chinese phones are the same: inexpensive but with only one or two OS updates. If most manufacturers just support their flagships for five years, that seems like a good range for most people. If you use your phone heavily, you might end up trading, selling, or breaking it within three to five years. Based on the stats, it seems the average upgrade cycle is around two to three years. That might be a reason why Android manufacturers didn’t really have long software support. Why support a phone if the average user just trades up in a few years? Once customers start complaining about it, brands increase support duration.
buying older iPhone makes most sense. older iPhones are available at the apple store unlike most of the older android flagships, long term software support and repair support, solid performance, any day better than android mid-range
3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading... Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
Afaik, no. The battery still degrades when not used. Worst is, if the phone is really brand new, it could be empty and may present some issues like bulging, as it should have a charge even when kept. But, I doubt if there are still brand new ones. Some businesses are smart enough to repackage refurbished phones with boxes and knocked-off accessories, and seal them with a plastic so it will look brand new.
I need some help here I dropped my note 20 ultra new days ago and the screen replacement cost is similar to a s21 ultra’s cost what should I do? I loved my note because of the boxy design in mostly and the s pen support.
I recently bought an S24 ultra, to replace my Note 10 plus. I got the Note 10 plus for a great price used and have no complaints, but the camera hardware and software has aged. To be honest, apart from the camera, and battery life (Note 10 plus still has a great battery life), i dont see much difference. I have done side by side comparisons. Ok, some software and A.I. gimmicks.
Get s23 ultra. Its a better phone in every way and apps/games are better optimised for snapdragon due to their open source drivers and prevalence. I ll be getting the cream color one shortly
I would still rather buy S21 FE than any "A series" Samsung that was ever existed. Same with Pixels, I would still rather consider 7 pro, even the 6 pro, over the A54, Xiaomi Redmi Note 13 pro or Vivo V29 Lite.
For those who prefer to buy old flagship phones, right now in 2024, what are your thoughts about the s22 ultra? 2 yrs old why's it still somewhat costy, and to others too expensive??
My first thought is ,why do you absolutely need a flag ship phone? Is it the bling and status? So many new mid range phones do everything and more for 99% of the people and mid rangers are getting better and better as time goes on.
@@matthews-tech 3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading... Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
@ordinarysweech There are no s21 ultra from the box, you are probably getting a refurb, it's battery health will probably be at 85%, if the battery was not replaced.
Just bought the s22 ultra for $430 n still shipping. My daily driver has been the OnePlus 8t since its release. I overclocked the hell outta it n it does pretty well still in terms of gaming performance. Only upgradeded cuz im tired of my gf clowning its camera 😭 which is valid it sucks
I'm in the market for a new mid level phone or buy a used phone as I plan to buy either a pixel 8+ or a s24+ for the 7 years of updates but I'm just a casual user, don't game, live in pretty much the middle of nowhere so storage for podcast, movies, and episodes is pretty important to me so the SD card storage is a huge plus or large internal storage. I'm just concerned buying used as that seems risky to me as with my luck I'd probably get one a crap condition or something so I'm leaning towards just getting a moto g stylus for a few years then trying to buy either a new pixel 8 on sale or used s24+. What sites is best to buy used so I don't get ripped off?
I would say eBay, so far I've bought every phone from there, between used, mint condition, open box and brand new. My Moto One 5G Ace was under $100 and it was in mint condition with a few scratches and it's the 6/128GB version and it works real good! My LG G8X (this one I'm currently typing on) was also refurbished bought, it costed around $155 which was a good steal for it!! I haven't purchased anything from Amazon yet, but so far I was mainly using eBay and my packages would arrive around a week's time! 😁👍
Pixel and newer Samsung phones boast longer software support cycles, similar to iPhones. This could potentially influence depreciation rates. Traditionally, iPhones held their value better due to Apple's well-known extended software support compared to many older Android phones. With Google and Samsung now offering longer software support, it'll be interesting to see if this translates to slower depreciation for their phones. Pixel and newer Samsung devices could potentially retain their value better in the long run.
Pixels depreciation rate is fast and I like it I don't think the longer support times should effect the refurbished market price at all as the longer a phone is in the wild the more drops and scratches it will receive The condition of the phone is where the used market price differences are made The only people who pay for the longer support are the original owners and I think that's stupid because if I'm buying a 800 dollar plus phone I don't think the companies really expect me to be the type of person to use a phone for seven years
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Do you know if the samsung galexy note 9 get android 14 update????? That would be awesome. I have the note 9 and I hope it will get android 14 update make last just a little bit longer.
@@timothyp3ttit494 last update for note 9 was android 10
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Mannnnn i swear my S21 ultra can go for at least another 3-4 years...AT LEAST. Love it so much i just copped another one off amazon.
How much did you get it and where? I am from Nigeria and I just want to compare the prices u have over there to what we have here.
@@Mr.Apex99 I bought an s20U in 2020 for $1,399.99 and upgraded to a s23U for $1,199.99 last February here in the US (Westcoast)
@@Jacob-qn1um cool, but in ur original comment you mentioned S21 ultra. That's what I actually need info on.
@Mr.Apex99 I'm also Nigerian. I got my s21 ultra for 385k
@@kehi19 gotta be early last year, right? Cuz these vendors are calling the 128gb/12gb variant 420k/430k. Dollar rate just dey worsen everything. I wanna buy but I'm still saving. Problem is, the longer I save, the worse the dollar rate seems to become. Frustrating, really.
How many here already knew the reason and still watch this video.
The downside of more software support from manufacturers is that it will take longer for the older flagships price to go down, and by the time the prices are low enough there *might be* a better midrange device with better hardware for the same price
Just what i thought.. 👍
Exactly
The midrange needs for at least 5 years to catch a flagship. So it's fine. That's why the best value flagship that we could buy is the previous 2-3 generation from the current existing.
My thoughts exactly 💯
Just saw a note 20 ultra go for almost 400$ on ebay, crazy
i kinda agree
but in my country if you find one its still very expensive
so we stuck with midrange phones
True. Everybody in Lawrence Wongs sg buys the high end coz sgreans are rich n arrogant. For peeps like me we just buy the midrangers
I've recently ordered the S24 Ultra and plan to trade in my S22 Ultra for extra cashback. During my time with the S22 Ultra, I discovered an unexpected issue. Initially, I believed the AMOLED screen was free from any burn-in. However, upon closer inspection of the area behind the status bar, I noticed faint signs of burn-in. This was surprising, especially after learning that OneUI 6.0 lacks specific AMOLED burn-in protection features. The light burn-in on my screen was disappointing. To address this, I've started using Good Lock's QuickStar to disable all icons on the status bar, which helps, but it's a workaround. I believe a built-in feature for auto-hiding the status bar in future Android updates would be highly beneficial. It would not only enhance the overall user experience but also play a crucial role in preventing screen burn-in, especially in static areas like the status bar.
Same problem with my 1,300 $ Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 😢
@Nahianislam2007 let's see what they will give me with Samsung's exchange phone cashback. There are some bad experiences by customers so I hope I do not get scammed by Samsung. 😅🫠🤷♂️
@@Nahianislam2007our note20 ultra are like 600$ in trade in for the s24ultra, i think thats a pretty high trade value if you are thinking of upgrading.
@@vaztard4813 Thanks for informing. I'm not thinking for now... I'm satisfied with it. Hopefully I'll upgrade to S25 series
It's an oled panel my dude, what the actual hell we're you expecting? There is nothing you can do. If you use the screen long enough it will eventually burn out. There is only so much you can do, but most apps don't have burn in protection.
You are absolutely right. It's better to buy a older flagship than a budget or mid-range phone. I only disagree if you can get a budget or mid-range phone that has great performance, good cameras, a great display, a headphone jack, expandable storage, great battery life and a IR Blaster. That pretty much describes my Redmi Note 11 pro. I love that device. The only thing that's missing for me is a always on Display and wireless charging. Also I get 67watt Super fast wired charging on it.
what u mean it's poco f5 or poco x6 pro. Redmi 11 pro has poor performance.
@@akilbarboni4198 maybe yours does but mine doesn't. I'm getting great performance from my Redmi Note 11 pro, so only speak for yourself
@@vernonleewarren280 I dont have that phone my father has, is not laggy is just slow and cannot keep up with my Poco F5. The topic was on budget phones with powerful processors, it wasnt midrange in his time let alone now almost 2 years later.
100% agree with you, there are tons of great phones now with 3-4 years of operating system updates and now with some doing 7 years affordable prices will be around the corner on flagship devices, I bought a Motorola thinkphone for 394 including taxes a month ago sd8 gen1 plus 144hz screen and interesting enough I’m on a January security patch on this phone needed an android backup to my 14 pro max and this phone fills the gap at a cheaper price may not be a flagship but I’m enjoying it and no performance issues whatsoever.
Running an S10+, and I gotta say, I am perfectly happy with it, and due to the extra hardware features it has since it's an older flagship (SD card, headphone jack, Bixby Button which I have made into a quick action flashlight, etc.), I don't even want to upgrade!
S10+ was arguably peak Samsung. We'll never get another Samsung Galaxy like it.
Me too on my S8+ till now since it was released 😌😌
Just get the battery changed bro and keep it for many more years 😃
Samsung s10 + it can be a still a beast but you don't gonna have updates and security updates you still gonna use it ? İsnt it better you go for maybe for Samsung s21 cus it's also good but with still have updates?
Preach.
Everyone says buy the new 1000 phone or 1400
Just be patient and buy a older flagship it's amazing
Getting old flagship phones it's bae ,the only probably is getting them as pre owned especially the those that came out 3 years ago
The problem with this is actually the brand itself. Most of Android's flagship would not be produced when a new generation hit the market. For example Samsung just launched S24 series, which means soon enough they will cut the S23 series out of market. It would be hard to find a new phone in box with full warranty.
It was always implied that a older flagship phone would be used
Not sure which country you are from but off the top of my head it seems like they keep old stock of phone in major telecom providers and big box stores in America. I think most stores here keep the older phone for at least a year. Apple usually keeps phones that are two years old in their stores.
@@peterparker2068 Actually Samsung's A series phones have sd card slots the newest are the A15 and the A54 last year they have released newer model A55 this year also with sd card slots here in America because people still want them they are not the only ones
I do believe the subject at hand refers to used and or refurbished flagship phones not last years still in the box model as that would still make the phone more then most mid-rangers making this video pretty pointless
when we talk older flagship its mainly used or refurbished
S23 series is gonna be a great older flagship buy in the next couple of years.
No doubt
Yup..
Got a s23+ for 525$. Had a few scratches, but only on the backside.
Yeah, ８gen2 is one of the best chips.
That's what I'm thinking about
Used to thing that midrange phones were the bees knees after getting a Nexus 5 through my carrier. I didn't see the need to get a Samsung or Apple phone. Then my gf and I upgraded to the Note 8 and it was over for me. I can never see myself rocking a midrange anything anymore. S21 FE was fantastic, was hoping that the 23 FE would come with a 512GB variant, but I'm holding out for now. Love the channel man!
thanks
@@matthews-tech
3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading...
Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
@@ordinarysweech probably not but it will be up 95%
Mid range people don't know what they're missing so they're happy. But it's hard going backwards to mid range.
I think needing software updates and the latest flagship SOC is marketing. Laptops have been using older SOCs. Samsung S23fe SOC is 2 years old but re-engineering has brought it up to standards. Give me a 2/3 year old flagship SOC version the latest mid range SOC.
@@willl.3353 Your analogy about laptops is useless. Windows and Linux provide update for so long. In fact phones should learn from them.
A solid midrange phone does everything I need with ease and that's the same for the majority of users. I'd rather get a new midranger with long software support and a healthy battery.
So many sketchy sellers out there, I'm done with buying used phones.
Back market
I love my S20 FE, which is the upper mid-range phone. I got it in June 2021 and its still working for now. I did drop it accidentally a few times when it slipped out of my pocket and never once cracked. I do use a screen protector and a case.
Im getting a s20 fe after my a54 i think i should upgrade to flagship even if it is a little dated
@GwenyTheGirl I say if you can you should go for the s21 fe. The A54 takes better pictures in low light than the s20 fe and also has better battery life
@Mike.Tech. The S20 FE, which is still a great phone and I am not upgrading yet.The camera is still fine, it lasts me the whole day with light to moderate use.
S20 fe was a great phone. I've had one before. It's outdated now and not so outstanding anymore. I would recommend sell it and go for an s21 fe or and s21+ . . Or if you want to make an affordable big jump go for an s23 fe. If you're lucky you can find an open box condition for around $400-$450.
S20 fe is not mid range phone but a flagship phone 😉
The best mid range phone i can think of that is slept on and don't get talked about is the lg wing
Your spot on absolutely right!
Agreed
I have one. I love that phone
I've been buying old flagship devices for awhile now. I bought the S8 when it first launced. When it came time to getting a new phone I ended up buying a refurbished Note 8 since I loved the S8 so much. That started a trend. I started going to Backmarket for older affordable flagship devices. Got my first and Note 10, followed by the S22 Ultra.
You can get a one plus 10 for 300 in like New condition. My husband has a one plus 7 and he loves it. It's a great phone. I have a note 20 ultra and don't plan to give it up anytime soon.
@matthews-tech i agree with you, getting an older flagship is way better than getting these midrange and budget phones because with an older flagship you get better display, speakers, cameras, build quality, processor etc.
I used my Samsung Note 8 and 10+ for 2 and 4.5 years because I needed the s pen. Now my work doesn't need it anymore, I chose Samsung A55 because I need a good well-round but not overkill phone. Flagship or midrange, make sure you know what you need.
I bought my S10+ two years ago for 300 EUR, refurbished with 3 years warranty and physical condition like new. It's still holding up very well for my needs, including (light) gaming, basic video editing and Dex use. The battery is degrading naturally, but still gives 6-7 hours constant use easily, and could be replaced for 50-100 moneys without doing it myself. Really not bad for a 5 year old one that gets used and charged a lot.
Software updates stopped last year, but no compatibility issues so far, so who cares?
Best decision I've made in terms of phones for many years. Easily good for another 2 years or more. Then I'll do the same with a newer model.
My only problem buying old flagship over midrange phones is the battery life. I Work almost exclusively outside so is rare for me to find outlet to charge my phones, and i dont want to carry bulky powerbank
Just get the battery replaced
And also that if you really want them cheaps you will have to buy then refurbished
Buy a original (non-local) battery👍✅
I have gotten 4 used phones from back market batteries are fine
Note 10 + and S10+ are legends, the back colourful back panel of note10 and + is 🔥
Midrange and budget phones have ALWAYS been worse than old flagships. This is nothing new. Budget phones always lose to 3 or 5 year old flagships in price and specs.
Recently changed the battery in my s9+ after 4 years and it lasts all day with my usage
I had Note 20 Ultra, but unfortunately screen started having problems and battery life was horrible, so I went for S22 Ultra like a year ago. It's still a very good phone today, only thing which is not so good is battery life, but I get along with that somehow, it gets me through the day.
Before I bought a new A53, I thought I'd try the S20Fe. Experiencing image stabilization, a phone that never freezes or lags, the quality of the sound and the screen was amazing. Snapdragon is a lifechanger. I can never own a non flagship phone again.
Older flagships are like buying 2nd hand luxury cars, it comes with its risks, but you access amazing features that'll most midrange phones will never get. With a flagship, you experience the best a company has to offer
When my S20fe fell and broke after 2 years, I replaced it with another one. It's so good, I can't even justify upgrading to an S23
FE versions is not flagship though.
@bassyey Are you saying a phone in the S range is not flagship? What is it then?
main issue battery life reduced in half after 2 years. refurbished seems not best option unless battery get replaced.
4:45 As good of a phone as the S21 FE is it is actually more expensive than the S21 regular because the S21 FE is only 2 weeks older than the S22. Important thing to note.
Im running an s20 and plan to hold on until Black Friday or the s25 series to pick up the s24 since it has the 7 years. Can you do a video or comment on using phones past their system update cycle?
yes
@@matthews-tech
3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading...
Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
@@ordinarysweechYes
@@thomasmeijer6275 Alright, thank you
Battery life is the biggest obstacle for a lot of people from buying older flagships over midrangers. A used best up battery is always a NO NO for 90% of people when they pay their hard earned money to get a "new" phone.
Now thats laws are forcing oem to make them easier to fix, we might be able to get around the battery issue.
Wouldn't the new flagships be resistant to as big of a price drop? Because of support from the manufacturers.
Android phones tend to drop more due to competition after 12 months. So you will often see good offers on launch, then another 2 months later before it gets drowned out by new announcements.
Im geting an S22 ultra soon
I hate to disagree with you but as of recently, you get 90% of the phone for a 1/4th of the price going with a midrange phone. maybe a decade ago buying a flagship was worth it but with advances in tech a midrange phone will give 90% of the performance as a flagship. Most people will not even notice a difference in performance between a flagship and a midrange phone. I used to only buy flagship phones and started with a galaxy s2 way back in the day when it actually made a difference. Then I did what you recommended and got older flagships. I had a flagship phone break that was 2 years old and didn't have the budget for a newer flagship so I bought a midrange and was pissed when it outperformed my flagship phone and cost less then half what that broken one would have cost to replace. Phones have came so far that unless you are gaming heavy or uploading videos it is not at all worth spending money on any flagship phone. Heck a 2 year old flagship s22 still cost $200 more then a a35 right now.
Asides battery life, the S22 is objectively a better phone.
If it was the best a couple years, it’s still good enough today. People have become snobs with phones.
should i turn on adaptive protection or max
I always make the same point...older flagships are still great, s10/note10 lineup, s20/note20 lineup, still far better than any lower and mid tier smartphones, better processor, premium build, ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, wireless and reverse wireless charging, triple cameras, night mode, Super Amoled displays still the best in the game...the list goes on, even Oneplus 7 pro, beautiful, fast charge, 90hz, bezeless oled, older flagships are the best, but alot of people I know real want something new and sealed...they just waste money on something worst
Makes sense,but if you get the one with bad battery and have to change it.....thats additional cost
I haven't been too happy with my old mid-ranger Galaxy A52-S and really considering something with better performance, bigger screen, and better cam with telephoto - like a renewed S22 Ultra or Pixel 7pro. Never bought a used phone and still nervous about battery health and getting a lemon...
I bought a used iPhone XR off eBay. Loved it (I think having one camera looks very smart 😊)
But the camera wasn’t working right. It was blurry. So I took it to a repair shop, they tried contacting Apple and Apple said certain parts in the phone wasn’t genuine. Luckily the repair shop didn’t charge me, they said “you need to get your money back on that”.
And only because of the eBay guarantee I got my money back (seller was refusing).
I love your channel man! Great content and you are so right. I still have my S21 Ultra and will keep it for as long as I can. As a standby I still have my Note 10 Plus which is also still great. However the S21 Ultra is without doubt the best phone ever made and the fact you can buy a pristine second hand one for a few hundred bucks is just crazy!
Midrange phones make sense if they're 65-80% of what the current flagship is. Most midrange phones are only 30%-50%. This is especially true in the processor and gpu. It's a disgrace.
Beautifully said. I bought the Samsung A53 and the processor is total garbage. The cameras are incredible, the screen is excellent, but the CPU is just so bad, I can't even play Omega Strikers on lowest settings without framedrops. Switching apps is a lagfest. I absolutely should have bought an older flagship, the S21 is dramatically stronger while having the same high quality cameras and screen.
It make me so mad too because the "professional reviews" of the A53 called it snappy and responsive, yet if you search "A53 slow" or "A53 lag" you'll find a ton of people encountering the exact same issues with the phone. They promised "oh it'll likely optimized in a future update" which never happened lol
@@vvvios The A53's Exynos 1280 is on par with 5 year old flagships in tasks requiring only a single CPU core, but it's 35-38% slower in tasks requiring more cores. This is why original reviews said it felt snappy and now it's incredibly laggy. It can't be fixed. As the CPU ages, the multi core deficiencies will become more apparent.
Damn right! Ended up trading in a Samsung Galaxy A53 for an iPhone 14 since the processor was total garbage!
Videos wouldn’t upload to TH-cam, struggled to upload photos and videos to google photos to. Worst phone I’ve had, just couldn’t do anything I wanted it to. The cameras, screen and the SD card slot were really nice but like you said. The processor is absolute garbage!
I didn't watch the video yet, but lemme tell you from my previous mid range phones experience, which i bought many times over the years. Long story short, NEVER BUY MID RANGE, IT'S A TRAP, ALWAYS BUY A FLAGSHIP EVEN IF A 4 YEAR OLD PHONE. I'm currently using, in 2024, Samsung Note 9 and Samsung S9, both almost 6 year old from 2018. I assure you that both are far much more superior and better than all recent mid range phones, especially when it comes to the camera.
hello brother. I really like your live wallpaper on the left phone in this video. Where can I get that one?
We have longer updates but the price of flagship phones don't drop as much as they used to. Few years ago android flagships after 1-2 years were on 50% of their price or even less, now after 1-2 years they drop 30% with is a joke. In EU prices not falling like they used to few years ago, if in your regions prices falling down more drastically then go for it, but if 2 years old flagship in new condition is not 50% down than I wouldn't buy it.
Regarding refurbished phones, I wouldn't recommend them if you don't buy them in real life, many refurbished phones from online stores look much worse than they describe them. You think you will be getting pristine one, and they send you one with scratches all over it.
Exactly! Got sent an iPad that was meant to be in good condition but the screen had scratches all over it.
The reason to get a brand new phone over a same price old flagship is because I'd rather spend the same money on a brand new phone with warranty then risk getting a second hand phone that I might have to get repaired. Don't know how long it's been gamed on or screen burn in or dropped anything.
I think the only reason the older flagships sell really cheap is because of their older software. So of you're right and the tech giants start moving towards giving a lot more years worth of OS updates to their flagships, those price drops we see in older flagships will slowly disappear... Especially if everyone wakes up and starts buying older flagship phones.
I agree 100%. Just replace the battery and it's good as new.
should I buy the s21FE or the S21 Ultra? is the ultra worth the extra cost?
One question if you purchase an older android phone in which the life cycle for OS and Security updates has already ended will the phone automatically update to the latest OS and security update that was available for the phone?
I recently got an Oppo A96 which was one of the brands flagship phones in Nigeria in 2022. I must say that's the best decision i made. It offers way too much value and performance for thr Price. I only upgraded it to Android 13 but i have never regretted it. It outperformed all the latest budget / midrange phones i wanted to buy as their value were not commensurate with the prices in my own estimation
OIder flagship is always gonna be better than a new budget or mid range. Had the a52 and couldnt put up with the fingerprint scanner, stuttering, poor software optimization, bad camera, etc..s21 fe is 10x better in specs and user experience. Always get the S model samsungs, even from a few yrs back. Software updates mean nothing when the software optimization was poor to begin with.
I have an A53 right now. It hasn't been terrible. It was honestly pretty good until I updated the software. Now it's pretty slow and buggy. I'm thinking about getting an older flagship S series phone.
I am still using my HTC U11+ upto now. Bought years ago as second hand for the purpose of backup unit until I feel comfortable making this as my daily driver. Though software updates were long gone, altered android 9 ROM, running OK, battery OK, only plays classic words, the only drawback is only few people know about HTC.
Only advantage to the latest mid range over an older flagship is better battery and newer modems. I'm not overly sold on needing the latest software updates unless it improves reception or performance. I say this because many S20's don't get 5g in Canada and have limited 5g bands. The US versions, with same hardware, have more applied bands. For some reason they shutdown bands in Canada.
my s6edge plus is 9 years old.. older than my 2 children i think it ancient 🤣🤣🤣 . runs on android 7 still works for me. battery life is still okay am not a heavy user so i dnt think i notice all that stuff.and yes older flagship work well.
midranges and low budget phones are very hard to trade in, everything is a lot easier with a flagship phone. Think about it, if you trade in a flagship phone for a newer flagship, you're basically paying midrange/low-budget price for flagship with a trade-in.
I have zero reasons to upgrade from my s22 ultra. In extremely good condition and fairly new. But i will upgrade when ever samsung Gonna come with 1” main camera.. hopefully s25 ultra
bought a galaxy s23 ultra 512gb for $500 worth every penny
I bought an 21+ last month instead of an a55 and I don't regret my decision, it's fast enough with ok battery life. I hope to keep it for like 2 years.
Call me crazy but the cameras on my S20FE were better than my current Galaxy Z Flip 5, which is admittedly a bit faster, but not earth-shatteringly so. The only real upgrade that my current flagship-level phone offers is its folding form factor, which is really handy.
I got the s21 fe, i really love this phone so much. So, of course the battery won't be the best, but it's usable. And this phone it's powerful, it take amazing pictures.
I bought a refurbished s21 and I'm never buying one again. It was supposed to be excellent but arrived in a very used condition and isn't waterproof bc it's refurbished and has been opened. They're good if you don't care about waterproof like I do.
Don't buy a refurbished product.
If water resistance is so important to you, do not risk buying a refurbished, or even a used phone from someone who is careful. Water resistance is affected by wear and tear of those seals.
Besides, there are some midrangers having some sort of water protection.
My s21+ has water resistance
And its not feom official samsung shop
@Hajimeme7 yeah I just ordered a new phone from Samsung bc I want water resistance
my samsung note 9 is still better than budget A series
Nobody selling an old phone tells you the battery health of the phone. Ha ha. Be prepared for battery to degrade very quickly after using it for a year. Because the phone will have been used for about 2 years by then in total if youre lucky.
I been here since 96 sub good to see the grow
Wow! Thanks!
@@matthews-tech just keep growing
Exactly my thinking. I am on the verge of picking up Pixel 8 pros for the miss and me with their big sales.
with 7 years of updates on samsung/google buying new definately has a BIG advantage !
Do Xiaomi phones work in the US they work fine here in Australia but have to buy from overseas.
I'd rather have a Galaxy S that's 2-3 years old than a Galaxy A or mid-range from another brand.
The extended update applies to new phones. Past flagships don't get the extended updates.
The only worry of buying a used flagship phone is battery and warranty. So if it is almost new (some old phone are barely used), then no real reason to buy a mid ranger
The problem is flagship stores, in my country at least, don't sell old flagships. Like if you wanted that s21 fe, you'll have to look for alternative stores, and you risk getting scammed.
But that's not an issue with you, you're smart and cannot be bamboozled nor scammed no matter by who.
Here I am with my refurbished Mi 10 Ultra on the EU ROM and it still feels fast and snappy, has great cameras, charges to full in 23 minutes, while still having the horsepower to play demanding mobile games like ZZZ and Wuthering Waves at almost or at 60fps tho I have to adjust my settings a bit to reduce overheating (playing in an air conditioned room or pointing a fan at the screen gives me stable 60 fps everytime 😂)
I doubt other manufacturers will match the long software update policies. OnePlus has already said they wouldn’t. It makes sense for Samsung since they are the number one manufacturer of Android devices worldwide. The cost of software development is lower for them because they sell so many more units. For Google, they don’t need to make money off their hardware but rather showcase their software. This was Google’s goal with the Nexus line, which offered great budget devices. Pixel phones don’t even sell worldwide. Each manufacturer targets their own price point. Motorola might not offer long support for their budget/midrange line, but when they are on sale, they are quite inexpensive. Considering the price, I can’t really complain about the lack of software support. Many Chinese phones are the same: inexpensive but with only one or two OS updates.
If most manufacturers just support their flagships for five years, that seems like a good range for most people. If you use your phone heavily, you might end up trading, selling, or breaking it within three to five years. Based on the stats, it seems the average upgrade cycle is around two to three years. That might be a reason why Android manufacturers didn’t really have long software support. Why support a phone if the average user just trades up in a few years? Once customers start complaining about it, brands increase support duration.
buying older iPhone makes most sense. older iPhones are available at the apple store unlike most of the older android flagships, long term software support and repair support, solid performance, any day better than android mid-range
Bro where'd you get the guitar wallpaper
3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading...
Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
Afaik, no. The battery still degrades when not used. Worst is, if the phone is really brand new, it could be empty and may present some issues like bulging, as it should have a charge even when kept.
But, I doubt if there are still brand new ones. Some businesses are smart enough to repackage refurbished phones with boxes and knocked-off accessories, and seal them with a plastic so it will look brand new.
@@josephaquino3095 that's interesting, thank you so much for your detailed answer
Get s22ultra its around 450$ now price drop since s24
@@DOGEELLL Alright then, thank you!
I still use my IPhone 5 . Listen and watch TH-cam in the gym. Still does the job. I’m not a gamer.
Love that guitar wallpaper. Where can we get it?
I need some help here I dropped my note 20 ultra new days ago and the screen replacement cost is similar to a s21 ultra’s cost what should I do? I loved my note because of the boxy design in mostly and the s pen support.
I recently bought an S24 ultra, to replace my Note 10 plus. I got the Note 10 plus for a great price used and have no complaints, but the camera hardware and software has aged. To be honest, apart from the camera, and battery life (Note 10 plus still has a great battery life), i dont see much difference. I have done side by side comparisons. Ok, some software and A.I. gimmicks.
Is s23 fe recommendeed
No
@@Richtofen_- thank you because I am also seen it in real life and its ugly and old processor
I think you fail to realize the impact having longer software updates will have on resell value.
Bro link for your homescreen live wallpaper in samsung?
My Huawei Nova 3i is still working since 2018. It was repaired but was my fault because of the motorcycle phone holder was too tight and the battery.
A lot of exynos haters over snap dragon. Is it better to get s23ultra over s24?
OnePlus has snapdragon always
Get s23 ultra. Its a better phone in every way and apps/games are better optimised for snapdragon due to their open source drivers and prevalence.
I ll be getting the cream color one shortly
bought a s21 ultra in excellent condition for $270 and i plan on buying a pixel 6 pro for 190 as a back up
What note is that left of the pixel?
I would still rather buy S21 FE than any "A series" Samsung that was ever existed. Same with Pixels, I would still rather consider 7 pro, even the 6 pro, over the A54, Xiaomi Redmi Note 13 pro or Vivo V29 Lite.
OnePlus 12r price competes against the older flagship. I recommend you start reviewing them!
For those who prefer to buy old flagship phones, right now in 2024, what are your thoughts about the s22 ultra? 2 yrs old why's it still somewhat costy, and to others too expensive??
My first thought is ,why do you absolutely need a flag ship phone? Is it the bling and status? So many new mid range phones do everything and more for 99% of the people and mid rangers are getting better and better as time goes on.
The 7 years of android upgrades will be also for mid range smartphones like A35 and A55?
good question...they didn't say yet.
@@matthews-tech
3:05 Talking about battery life of older flagships degrading...
Please If I buy a new, out of the box S21 ultra. Would it still have a good 100% battery life?
@ordinarysweech There are no s21 ultra from the box, you are probably getting a refurb, it's battery health will probably be at 85%, if the battery was not replaced.
@@benk39 alright, thank you so much for your response
A55 gets 4 years
Just bought the s22 ultra for $430 n still shipping. My daily driver has been the OnePlus 8t since its release. I overclocked the hell outta it n it does pretty well still in terms of gaming performance. Only upgradeded cuz im tired of my gf clowning its camera 😭 which is valid it sucks
I'm in the market for a new mid level phone or buy a used phone as I plan to buy either a pixel 8+ or a s24+ for the 7 years of updates but I'm just a casual user, don't game, live in pretty much the middle of nowhere so storage for podcast, movies, and episodes is pretty important to me so the SD card storage is a huge plus or large internal storage. I'm just concerned buying used as that seems risky to me as with my luck I'd probably get one a crap condition or something so I'm leaning towards just getting a moto g stylus for a few years then trying to buy either a new pixel 8 on sale or used s24+. What sites is best to buy used so I don't get ripped off?
I would say eBay, so far I've bought every phone from there, between used, mint condition, open box and brand new. My Moto One 5G Ace was under $100 and it was in mint condition with a few scratches and it's the 6/128GB version and it works real good! My LG G8X (this one I'm currently typing on) was also refurbished bought, it costed around $155 which was a good steal for it!! I haven't purchased anything from Amazon yet, but so far I was mainly using eBay and my packages would arrive around a week's time! 😁👍
Pixel and newer Samsung phones boast longer software support cycles, similar to iPhones. This could potentially influence depreciation rates.
Traditionally, iPhones held their value better due to Apple's well-known extended software support compared to many older Android phones.
With Google and Samsung now offering longer software support, it'll be interesting to see if this translates to slower depreciation for their phones. Pixel and newer Samsung devices could potentially retain their value better in the long run.
Pixels depreciation rate is fast and I like it
I don't think the longer support times should effect the refurbished market price at all as the longer a phone is in the wild the more drops and scratches it will receive The condition of the phone is where the used market price differences are made
The only people who pay for the longer support are the original owners and I think that's stupid because if I'm buying a 800 dollar plus phone I don't think the companies really expect me to be the type of person to use a phone for seven years
Battery life aint an issue just replace the battery. The software support was the issue but now with 7 years we are all set
The same reason I bought s23 this week to last me minimum of 5 yrs still costed Less than an A series phone
Bro walpaper link used for pixel 8 ?