Another reason this hit arthur so hard is because he lost his family over 10$ so seeing that boy made him realize he's no better then the people that killed them
@@giorgoslavrentiou4296 He tells it a couple of times actually. I think he tells Sadie and he also tells Rains Falls for sure. Can't remember who else.
Well i think it was good untill ... SPOILERS SPOILER ALERT WEEWOOO WEEWOO SPOILERS micah became a rat you know i really liked micah and after playing for 2nd time i still think he was one of the best characters untill he turned (it also feels like he turned before guarma but when he was a good boy he was one of my fav characters) and also i still dont get it was dutch working with pinkertons too ? Like why did he go after arthur morgan and not micah ? After hosea died dutch started to ... what feels like abandon the gang untill then i think this was the perfect and the best gang EVER
Subscribe to me for free robux i mean yeah but i like him like * crazy and stuff like when we broke him out of prison it was so fun and other missions like that
well the times are also to blame, I mean the game says it from the get go that the government is cracking down on the Law. hunting gangs and exterminating them. a dying breed because the country is changing
I think it might be designed that way. I think, if your honor is already high but not quite there yet, this game uses this particular side mission to give you the last honor boost to reach max. I was three quarters all the way on the right and after this mission I have achieved the max. Quite a substantial gain in honor when compared to Arthur's other honorable actions.
Blair lol maybe YOUR Arthur would do that. Canon Arthur is good Arthur. Anyhow, arthur wasn’t a devout religious man, same as John marston. He did good because he genuinely wanted to help others as much he could becuz he had little time left and was soon going to DIE, and leave this world/life he cherished so much. Not because he thought he was going to Hell. The afterlife is uncertain for him as much as it is for anyone. His path and intention was more self-transcendent than meets the eye
I loved how it not only affected Arthur but also me as the player. All I wanted to do in the beginning was robbing and killing...whenever I had the choice to take money I took it. By the end of the game I just couldn't take any money or gifts from characters. I always thought this game was amazing but when I realized that I changed my gaming style along with Arthur changing his attitude I knew this was more than "just a game", this was special.
The most stunning moment I had in this game was when I was speaking to her and chose to absolve and help. As Arthur apologized it started to rain. After he handed her the money and said he was sorry, it started pouring down, like God weeping for Arthur's soul in his search for redemption.
FreeWill3K it rained the entire way to Mr. Downes place for me but when I got there it cleared up like an ironic nice business day up until Arthur got coughed on.
almost same, it was evening for me if i remember btw i feel short hair arthur really weird, i played long hair so maybe that's why, but his voice fit really more on a strong long hair man
@Alfonso Lopez I don't think he realised Thomas was that sick until he died. Plus i doubt Arthur had much other methods since it's often mentioned he isn't very good with his words and finesse is something he's always lacked.
still, if you don't convert it all into money and do the aberdeen farm store exploit it's all gone before long. some update made you lose all valuables; found that out the hard way as I had been following the tips saying "only sell valuables if you can't carry more or need the money, save as many as possible for the epilog". I'll be honest, when arthur gave john the satchel I didn't expect him to first yeet 7 gold bars, 5 large jewelary bags, 5 gold nuggets, dozens of rings, belt buckles, watches etc. down the mountain first.
@Unstoppable the end of RDR2 is before the events of RDR1, making it a prequel. The epilogue of RDR2 is when John first got his ranch, kinda telling the audience how he went from gang member to rancher. Prequel: a story or movie containing events that precede those of an existing work.
That turn of the head at 0:27 gives me chills. This scene is so powerful, but for me, that moment makes it. In that moment, I truly see and understand the shame he feels when he realises the circumstances.
If you read Arthur’s journal and listen to cutscenes involving Strauss, he makes it perfectly clear he doesn’t like Strauss or his lending ways. Just like abandoned animals band together and do what is necessary to survive, I believe Arthur fell into the wrong person that is Dutch and bought into Dutch’s rhetoric of course circumstances made Dutch seem to be a good choice.
I think Arthur realized here their excuses to rob and kill were just that: excuses to rob and kill. They never turned into anything new. Their values weren’t being lost to insanity. It’s what they always were. And it has always left only sadness in their wake.
Arthur knew it was all an excuse at the beginning of the game. In his journal he writes about how they planned on buying a ranch but Dutch kept putting it off calming the law was watching them. And just before they robbed Cornwall’s train he writes in his journal “Knowing Dutch those plans involve robbing and killing” which shows that he knows Dutch can't settle down and his "plans" involve the exact same thing with no change and no end. Arthur just kept justifying his actions as not having enough money for all of them but it was only until he got sick and started seeing things differently did he finally stop lying to himself.
I think there was some reason to it, you can read old newspaper scraps about the gang robbing a bank and throwing gold and silver to the poor, and Dutch and Hosea talk about the early days where they only did what they needed to survive. Those values were still there in some ways for a while, right up until Blackwater
Dutch had a good start with his Robin Hood ways, but then he slowly went on the deep end and instead started taking from both rich and poor more or less. By the time of Blackwater it was already too late for change sadly having grown up in the game Arthur was just too loyal to say fck it and have him and John leave
@@Rougeification John flat out says to Javier that they weren't good times, and they were just bad people. Man, if they ever remake RDR1, they could make it even better having RDR2 now to build off of... As in RDR1 a lot of the backstory is left incredibly vague, for obvious reasons.
Ti Fi You missed the point, strauss forced desperate people to lend money, using Arthur to threaten them, and then they are forever in their debt. He is a loan shark, who used Arthur for his evil games, and that why Arthur damn cane close to beating that man to death.
They really masked Arthur's vulnerability well, with random acts of kindess and his final heroic deeds it properly hide from us how this disease made him a shadow of the man he was.
in Arthur’s journals these interactions really affected Arthur in a very emotional way and he is left with emotional scares that he feels can never be healed. He really feels horrible for having to ask these desperate people to give him the money. I’m so glad he confronted Strauss, that man did not deserve to be in the gang what a bastard.
@@phillipwalling7470 safe? i wouldn’t give this horrible man an credit within the gang what so ever. if anything he’s giving away camp money to desperate people knowing full well they couldn’t pay it back. This man didn’t do anything but sit on his ass all day and count how many people still owe him money. God if i had the option to punch him god i would. he prays on the weak and vulnerable and uses arthur as a way of intimidation and brining fear on dose that owe him. but even after all the shitty things he has done i still give him some level of respect for already keeping his mouth shut even while he was interrogated and eventually killed by the authorities. he didn’t have to be this loyal to the gang, after all Arthur was the one to kicked him out and no one said or did a single thing about it. But at least he kept his loyalty with him when he died.
I love how Arthur changed his ways as the story progresses. He still has that tough guy demeanor but you can tell that his character itself changes drastically.
this voice actress was one of the best in the game, low-key, listen to the utter contempt in her voice and how she commands the modulation of tone and volume. She should have been the one to voice sadie adler's role, in my opinion. mrs. londonderry's oratory game was top fucking notch
Very well said! There is something very commanding and exceptional about her voice. It really sets the tone for how important this interaction is in the story.
Such a beautifully animated and performed scene. The depth of focus shifting on Arthur as the child comes out to cower behind his mother, and the palpable shame and regret emanating from Arthur as he faces the outcome of his actions. Just heartbreaking.
The best part is that most of them you have to search for and their hidden in other missions and stuff for example with the sister missions if you don't meet sister Arthur will never confess to her and will talk to Reverend
Him being sick && also being very nice hits really hard. Changing his life && doing the right choices, before he passes on.. Arthur is the most badass character
leo. Arthur even while being extremely sick can still fight off Micah and almost win, can still take on an army by himself, and most likely pushed himself further than any normal man could have done. Arthur’s a badass.
1:41 idk how. but the look on his face spells despair and realization and shock all at once. he looks dumbfounded but at the same time, seems to finally see things clearly. almost as if he's waiting for something to appear out of no where. Idk. he was a bad man, or so he says, but i feel bad Arthur.
It's amazing that we players get to make Arthur who he is by making the right choices, rockstar has developed in a big way, can't wait for GTA6 and RDR3, I hope they make bully 2, it was a great game
I love rdr2, but to me its imposible to play it dishonorable because ir doesnt fit with the story. It's a story about redemption, playing Arthur dishonorably just doesnt fit the characters IMO
@@supahhotnoodledapx1602 i never said that. I have killed civilians, but it feels out character as well, because no matter how dishonorably you make him, Arthur is an honorable character. A full dishonorable character would be Micah
Chris Gonc how about a game about Jack Marston And giving you a choice between him making a normal life for himself or following in his fathers Lifestyle
Arthur Londonderry died and left his wife and young son alone, because he had to get money to some outlaws. Arthur Morgan had a wife and son who died and left him alone, all because some outlaws wanted $10.
I think the most meaningful thing about this scene to me is that it’s a woman and child who lost their own Arthur. It’s just like Arthur’s girl and son that he talked about previously with Rains Fall and the Sister. It just breaks my heart knowing all of this.
Fun Fact : The CEO of Take 2 Interactive is named Strauss Zelnick. Whether or not Rockstar employees are trying to subliminally tell us something is up for you to decide.
Well after the bar fight in valentine Mr Downes gets pretty close to Arthur's face when he's stopping him from killing Tommy, that's why Arthur still gets TB even if you just shoot Mr Downes. So its Mr Downes fault, or maybe even Bill's fault since he started the fight. Or dutch's fault since it was his idea to go east down the mountains in the first place.
@@whatinthegoddamn I didn't realise TB asked for permission to infect people. Sure the circumstances and actions of individuals led to that moment, but no-one knew Downes was ill with TB (Strauss makes the vague allusion to it in mention Downes' passing to Arthur). The point was for Arthur to take responsibility for his actions and the nature of his soul which the TB ultimately provoked him to do.
I mean Strauss is a snake who steals money from the poor for his own benefit, he just used Arthur to do it for him. That's a greater reason to hate him.
@@fellascallmethedrink actually he didnt make money for himself, it was for the gang, and he wasnt the one who chose arthur to take back the depth, it was dutch who told arthur to help strauss in the first place, heck, strauss was loyal, he died by the pinkertons torturing him, and he never said a word, this is what made me realise he isnt that bad as you ppl think he is, by that logic, you should hate arthur in the first 3 chapters when he wasnt a good man, i mean, he couldve told strauss im not doing this right? so hating on strauss is pointless and idiotic
Man I really liked Arthur too such a brilliant man yes his past was sick but after all that he wanted to turn his life around but Strauss had to make Arthur have this horrible disease and watch his life end soon 😭
Strauss didn't force Arthur to collect the debts,nor did he make him have a disease.Arthur made choices these choices led him down the path if it weren't for the disease Arthur wouldn't have made the changes he did.
@@alaricdelano8159 Idk about that i'd argue the disease was more of a jump start I think either way Arthur would eventually realize what Dutch was doing especially since he ALWAYS hated Micha.
The expression on face of Arthur is so realistic it's like actual real life character in this cutscene I've seen very few games with such realistic facial expression
Man the love, care, and detail poured into this character is simply miraculous.. not to mention Roger Clarke's phenomenal performance. One of gamings all time greats.
This game has me feeling all sorts of emotions. Arthur is one of my favorite protagonists in a game now. He's a good man who just got dealt a shitty hand in life and fell in with the wrong crowd.
definitely the saddest scene, when he apologises you can feel his emotions. even if he was a fictional character I still believed he was real somewhere. I guess the true meaning of life is to just help people. Just make the good deeds happen and it will all come back to you
See what makes this scene truly perfect is Arthur sees himself in this situation he once had a wife and son and died when he wasn’t around and he meets another man’s family who name he shares which I feel like he can relate to
Me after this mission: Oh looky here! I’m finally in the white area of the honor bar! Heads into town: *intervenes fight* *dude pulls out gun* *i kill him* *lose honor* *witness comes up, I try to stop him* *witness pulls out gun* *i kill* *lose honor* *repeat* *Back in low honor for fucks sake*
Hearing the pain in his voice every time he says he's sorry....god damn that hurts. He realises he's been leading the wrong life, he knows damn well he ain't a good man but he's gonna do as much as he can to make things right with what little time he has left. He's not a good man, no, but he's got a golden heart.
Arthur realized it way too late. And he was himself part of the problem big time without even realizing it too. It hits home because Arthur is a lot like folks like me who didn't knew they were doing something wrong at first.
The transition from a major jerk killing and hurting people without even a whimper to genuinely caring about the people that he ruined the lives of is so seamless and grounded in reality it is horrifying. One of the many reasons I love Arthur as a character so much is that this transition will happen to any one of us when we know that our life is gonna end soon. We all live our life in complete disregard of the lives of others, would that still be the case if we could count the number of days we have on our fingers?
I like Arthur. He’s probably one of my favorite video game protagonists ever, but he knew damn well what he was doing. Eventually growing a conscious does not absolve him of anything. Let’s not pretend that he’s anything less than a robbing, murdering outlaw shall we?
I think you missed the point of the story. For starters, you have to give context into why Arthur was an outlaw to begin with. He was an orphan raised by outlaws, he was bread to be an outlaw. It was the only thing he knew. He never blamed anyone else for being an outlaw, getting TB or facing his own death, he knew his actions caused it. And he was never looking to be absolved, the whole point of his story is doing good with the little time he had left and giving others a better path - John, Sadie, Jack, Abigail, etc than what he had.
Loyalty isnt everything, the definition "Horrible person, but loyal" could also apply to Arthur before he got TB, and he deeply regrets that part of his life
Sees Lenny, Hosea, Kieran and Sean: Boys... What about just standing here for the rest of our lifes? This camp it’s not bad at all... Just... don’t pass away fellas...
What I got from this is that Arthur seen the lady’s son , that he had lost & he’s seeing life differently it’s just the other way around with Arthur being dead & his wife being a window raising her child . He can relate to her life. “Arthur’s dead” was an eye opener cause he too is an Arthur & wish he had what he lost so he also felt bad
Look how he turns his head to the other direction while seeing the kid . Stares away from an embarrassment. This game is a masterpiece! The details on look , voice e.t.c are so true to life . Love Arthur . My favorite character ever created .
This is one of the best games I’ve ever played and Arthur is without a doubt one of the best protagonists in all of gaming. This is the type of game I’d replay with my memory of the game erased.
The first Rockstar game that made me willingly want to make my character a better person. I went from “antagonizing” strangers to just saying “hello” to them. I went from starting fights to doing my best to stop them. This game really made me feel like I was part of the arc of the character and it was a truly special experience
Another reason this hit arthur so hard is because he lost his family over 10$ so seeing that boy made him realize he's no better then the people that killed them
Where he tell his family's story???
@@giorgoslavrentiou4296 on the optional mission with rains falls for archaeology for beginners
@@giorgoslavrentiou4296 if you decide to do the mission to speak to rain falls about eagle flies,you can talk to rain falls about stuff
@@giorgoslavrentiou4296 He tells it a couple of times actually. I think he tells Sadie and he also tells Rains Falls for sure. Can't remember who else.
@@dadooddarren2116 The nun. He tells her about his son Isaac.
When he says “I’m sorry ma’am, I really am” that hits me hard :,(
It's cool
...yes...
mike cok “well youre a good man” THAT one got me.
Well he wasn't
mike cok do you know what hits me hard🥺?
Beating up poor Thomas Downes when he’s not feeling well😢
“Arthur’s dead.”
That’s poetic.
More prophetic
Nico Karnbach what?
Thick Imposter, prophetic. Telling of the future.
Lol it's not that deep breh
They just have the same name
Foreshadowing
"I prefer robbing banks to usury. Somehow seems more dignified." - Dutch
Even Dutch wasn't fond of Strauss's methods.
Even Micah didn't like it
They steal and murder innocent people, they were not very different from Strauss, only that he was honest with his reality and they were not
@@soldiermeyer2790 You missed the point, you fool.
@@Nico42048 At what point in the game did Micha say he hated it?
@@StuartLugsden During a camp interaction where Micah is talking to Strauss.
“Why, you’re a good man”
Arthur. A good man who just followed the wrong gang.
Even the blind fortuneteller says to him "Your whole life, sir, you have followed the wrong star"
Well i think it was good untill ... SPOILERS SPOILER ALERT WEEWOOO WEEWOO SPOILERS
micah became a rat you know i really liked micah and after playing for 2nd time i still think he was one of the best characters untill he turned (it also feels like he turned before guarma but when he was a good boy he was one of my fav characters) and also i still dont get it was dutch working with pinkertons too ? Like why did he go after arthur morgan and not micah ? After hosea died dutch started to ... what feels like abandon the gang untill then i think this was the perfect and the best gang EVER
Subscribe to me for free robux i mean yeah but i like him like * crazy and stuff like when we broke him out of prison it was so fun and other missions like that
For me, he was a bad man, lowest honor possible.
well the times are also to blame, I mean the game says it from the get go that the government is cracking down on the Law. hunting gangs and exterminating them. a dying breed because the country is changing
If you read Arthur's journal you will find he has hated money lending from the very beginning
u mean muneh lending
@@ranggasatriapratama6337 where's my muneh
@@Heisenberg929 follow the plan and you will get it boi
@@space3817
What's your plan, Dutch? Tahiti? Timbuktu? What's your damn plan?
@@tahabashir3779 My plan is MY PLAN I DONT NEED YOU DOUBTING ME BOI
This was the mission where Arthur's honor hit perfect for me. Couldn't have chosen a better one, I reckon.
Yeah me too
Same
Fr
I think it might be designed that way. I think, if your honor is already high but not quite there yet, this game uses this particular side mission to give you the last honor boost to reach max. I was three quarters all the way on the right and after this mission I have achieved the max. Quite a substantial gain in honor when compared to Arthur's other honorable actions.
Yh same mine reached maximum
Compare this scene with the "keep her in black .. on your behalf" scene and you see how much Arthur has changed .. Amazing character and game
Because he was dying and didn't want to go to hell so he decided to turn his life around.
Had Arthur not gotten Tuberculosis, he would have beaten the crap out that woman and then make her earn the money back at a brothel
Blair lol maybe YOUR Arthur would do that. Canon Arthur is good Arthur. Anyhow, arthur wasn’t a devout religious man, same as John marston. He did good because he genuinely wanted to help others as much he could becuz he had little time left and was soon going to DIE, and leave this world/life he cherished so much. Not because he thought he was going to Hell. The afterlife is uncertain for him as much as it is for anyone. His path and intention was more self-transcendent than meets the eye
Blair Did you even play the game?
I loved how it not only affected Arthur but also me as the player. All I wanted to do in the beginning was robbing and killing...whenever I had the choice to take money I took it. By the end of the game I just couldn't take any money or gifts from characters. I always thought this game was amazing but when I realized that I changed my gaming style along with Arthur changing his attitude I knew this was more than "just a game", this was special.
That "I'm sorry ma'am, I really am" is the saddest Arthur's voice has ever sounded
No, his saddest was when he said "I'm afraid" to Sister Catherine. I'd say this is definitely a second tho.
@@red_eyeTM I did not give her the moneh, I just absolved the debt and left
@@KRMukundan Good for you
@@red_eyeTM sister Calderon*
It's made me cry real talk
The most stunning moment I had in this game was when I was speaking to her and chose to absolve and help. As Arthur apologized it started to rain. After he handed her the money and said he was sorry, it started pouring down, like God weeping for Arthur's soul in his search for redemption.
FreeWill3K it rained the entire way to Mr. Downes place for me but when I got there it cleared up like an ironic nice business day up until Arthur got coughed on.
My boy you're a poet at heart.
almost same, it was evening for me if i remember btw i feel short hair arthur really weird, i played long hair so maybe that's why, but his voice fit really more on a strong long hair man
Gaaaaaaaaaaaay
I thought the rain was part of the cutscene when I first played it does my heart good to know it happened to someone else
Man, if Arthur didn’t collect the money for Strauss, he wouldn’t have tuberculosis 😭
B Wolf true, but Arthur getting TB is what put him on the path of redemption
How ?!
Strauss took money from any one
True, but Strauss should have had more information on the people he lends money to
@Alfonso Lopez I don't think he realised Thomas was that sick until he died. Plus i doubt Arthur had much other methods since it's often mentioned he isn't very good with his words and finesse is something he's always lacked.
Arthur: “You need money and I don’t, I did the gold bar duplication glitch” 😂
Lmfao
@Let me offer you this you cant do it now, only in one of the oldest versions of the game
@@lancealot861 cant do it on pc though. Tried every version of the game.
still, if you don't convert it all into money and do the aberdeen farm store exploit it's all gone before long. some update made you lose all valuables; found that out the hard way as I had been following the tips saying "only sell valuables if you can't carry more or need the money, save as many as possible for the epilog".
I'll be honest, when arthur gave john the satchel I didn't expect him to first yeet 7 gold bars, 5 large jewelary bags, 5 gold nuggets, dozens of rings, belt buckles, watches etc. down the mountain first.
@@Dylon1981 just use trainer
Notice how they hid Arthur’s sickness in the gameplay trailer?
Same here bruv what agame it was
They didn't want to ruin it
@Unstoppable did literally ANYONE expect Arthur to NOT die? The game is a prequel and there is no mention of Arthur in the first game.
@Unstoppable the end of RDR2 is before the events of RDR1, making it a prequel. The epilogue of RDR2 is when John first got his ranch, kinda telling the audience how he went from gang member to rancher.
Prequel: a story or movie containing events that precede those of an existing work.
No Ye How about you learn how singular and plural work then. Maybe you would be able to use child and children properly
That turn of the head at 0:27 gives me chills. This scene is so powerful, but for me, that moment makes it. In that moment, I truly see and understand the shame he feels when he realises the circumstances.
Ye
0:47 That horrified expression of Arthur just spells out perfectly that he's a different man now.
Remember that time when ricegum was talking to a rape victim and he said did it feel good tho
@@BreakingWhite ... he can burn
@@BreakingWhite what
@@BreakingWhite what the hell are you talking about? I played the game dude, when is the conversation?
@@arb1897 6 months ago
The way Arthur has changed from the first money lending mission really showed how the game was about Arthur’s redemption
Depend what Honor you on
@@johnnyferreira6349 i started of as a psycopath, but after arthur got diagnosed i increased my honor. In a way, i got redemption as well haha
there for the game's title : red dead *redemption*
If you read Arthur’s journal and listen to cutscenes involving Strauss, he makes it perfectly clear he doesn’t like Strauss or his lending ways. Just like abandoned animals band together and do what is necessary to survive, I believe Arthur fell into the wrong person that is Dutch and bought into Dutch’s rhetoric of course circumstances made Dutch seem to be a good choice.
Not really he didnt liked since the beggining but he was acting tough
I think Arthur realized here their excuses to rob and kill were just that: excuses to rob and kill. They never turned into anything new. Their values weren’t being lost to insanity. It’s what they always were. And it has always left only sadness in their wake.
"It was just an excuse, we all knew it." - John Marston, upon jailing Javier Escuella in Redemption I.
Arthur knew it was all an excuse at the beginning of the game. In his journal he writes about how they planned on buying a ranch but Dutch kept putting it off calming the law was watching them. And just before they robbed Cornwall’s train he writes in his journal “Knowing Dutch those plans involve robbing and killing” which shows that he knows Dutch can't settle down and his "plans" involve the exact same thing with no change and no end. Arthur just kept justifying his actions as not having enough money for all of them but it was only until he got sick and started seeing things differently did he finally stop lying to himself.
I think there was some reason to it, you can read old newspaper scraps about the gang robbing a bank and throwing gold and silver to the poor, and Dutch and Hosea talk about the early days where they only did what they needed to survive. Those values were still there in some ways for a while, right up until Blackwater
Dutch had a good start with his Robin Hood ways, but then he slowly went on the deep end and instead started taking from both rich and poor more or less. By the time of Blackwater it was already too late for change sadly having grown up in the game Arthur was just too loyal to say fck it and have him and John leave
@@Rougeification John flat out says to Javier that they weren't good times, and they were just bad people.
Man, if they ever remake RDR1, they could make it even better having RDR2 now to build off of... As in RDR1 a lot of the backstory is left incredibly vague, for obvious reasons.
Arthur: "Mrs Londonderry"
Sean: "I'll just call her Mrs Derry"
Arthur: "Why?"
Sean: "cause i'm Irish ye eedjit ye"
Yesssss lad hahaha
Is and always will be Londonderry
Mad Fer it Rkid Loyalists up north are loyal to a country who isn’t loyal to them haha,
@@staunchbadger355 Just easier to say Derry innit
Hahahaha
This game has more depth and meaning in small side-missions than the entirety of some big AAA story-based games...
Maybe because this is a AAAA-game
@@nood1le No, its an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA game.
That's how good it is
bro rockstar is like one of the biggest game companies there is. I’d place them 1 tier above what you count as triple A
LENNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
It's amazing how they managed to capture the sadness in his eyes. Even if it's the tuberculosis he still looks heartbroken.
People are so polite
When you give them free money
@Jaegar Ultima more like a Rabid dog that needs to be put down
shouldn't have borrowed the money you couldn't pay back then. cost arthur his life..err both of them i mean.
Ti Fi You missed the point, strauss forced desperate people to lend money, using Arthur to threaten them, and then they are forever in their debt. He is a loan shark, who used Arthur for his evil games, and that why Arthur damn cane close to beating that man to death.
@@tifi4220 Fuck off.
And you are an idiot Andy.
They really masked Arthur's vulnerability well, with random acts of kindess and his final heroic deeds it properly hide from us how this disease made him a shadow of the man he was.
...yes...
@@ggt47 ...yeah?
@@themcknox ...yep...
I don’t think it made him a shadow of the man he was, I think it made him a better man than he was before. But alas, a better man with limited time.
Arthur turned in such a good man in the end. Really makes me happy but it's also sad he dies. He got redemption before death.
DIO
he was always a good man, he just made bad decisions
Spoilers lol
Fã De Games nigga its been almost two years
@@bcolkesen2910 i'm saying for those who didn't play the game
in Arthur’s journals these interactions really affected Arthur in a very emotional way and he is left with emotional scares that he feels can never be healed. He really feels horrible for having to ask these desperate people to give him the money. I’m so glad he confronted Strauss, that man did not deserve to be in the gang what a bastard.
Strauss didn't sell out the Gang, at least. He died keeping them safe.
@@phillipwalling7470 safe? i wouldn’t give this horrible man an credit within the gang what so ever. if anything he’s giving away camp money to desperate people knowing full well they couldn’t pay it back. This man didn’t do anything but sit on his ass all day and count how many people still owe him money. God if i had the option to punch him god i would. he prays on the weak and vulnerable and uses arthur as a way of intimidation and brining fear on dose that owe him. but even after all the shitty things he has done i still give him some level of respect for already keeping his mouth shut even while he was interrogated and eventually killed by the authorities. he didn’t have to be this loyal to the gang, after all Arthur was the one to kicked him out and no one said or did a single thing about it. But at least he kept his loyalty with him when he died.
@@Tripod9648 You can trample Strauss with your horse tho
@@phillipwalling7470 Loyalty doesnt make a good man. That whole " At least he didnt rat them out lol" is thinking like Dutch
@@Tripod9648 he’s like Arthur though we just don’t play with Strauss so we don’t see his full story
0:26 his reaction to seeing the kid and probably remembering Isaac
I loved these missions as Arthur. It put the "Redemption" in Red Dead.
For real
"Arthurs dead"
Foreshadowing
All Arthurs have a tendency to die quickly I guess
And i feel like him saying "i know" was like him saying to himself
Andrew Heller its not that deep
HUNTER KNOTT yes it is, thats why rockstar named that guy arthur
I love how Arthur changed his ways as the story progresses. He still has that tough guy demeanor but you can tell that his character itself changes drastically.
The tb causes him to reflect on his choices
this voice actress was one of the best in the game, low-key, listen to the utter contempt in her voice and how she commands the modulation of tone and volume. She should have been the one to voice sadie adler's role, in my opinion.
mrs. londonderry's oratory game was top fucking notch
Very well said! There is something very commanding and exceptional about her voice. It really sets the tone for how important this interaction is in the story.
@@johnlungo8080 It's likely the voice director knew of the scene's importance and pushed to get the delivery we got.
True, we would get rid of that annoying fucking voice Sadie has.
Great? Yes. Sadie Adler???? No... This is why you aren't a voice director, or a casting agent lol.
Nah man this woman did very good but Alex McKenna did a fantastic job voice acting Sadie in my opinion
Such a beautifully animated and performed scene. The depth of focus shifting on Arthur as the child comes out to cower behind his mother, and the palpable shame and regret emanating from Arthur as he faces the outcome of his actions. Just heartbreaking.
So many deep ass cutscenes in this game.
Remember that time when ricegum was talking to a rape victim and he said did it feel good tho
@@BreakingWhite *licecum*
"Now theirs some fellas coming to take the house!......there AINT NOTHIN' LEFT MISTER!"
I felt it.
The best part is that most of them you have to search for and their hidden in other missions and stuff for example with the sister missions if you don't meet sister Arthur will never confess to her and will talk to Reverend
Him being sick && also being very nice hits really hard. Changing his life && doing the right choices, before he passes on.. Arthur is the most badass character
Why do u say &&
I think what you mean is WISE my friend.
leo. Arthur even while being extremely sick can still fight off Micah and almost win, can still take on an army by himself, and most likely pushed himself further than any normal man could have done. Arthur’s a badass.
Altitude Gamer he can be both, since that’s how he was in the game
@leo fuck John... arthur was way more badass than that lanky fuck
That game is heartbreaking. I haven't entirely finished it but damn... some parts really hit you hard in the feels.
really hits you in the feets huh :(
1:41 idk how. but the look on his face spells despair and realization and shock all at once. he looks dumbfounded but at the same time, seems to finally see things clearly. almost as if he's waiting for something to appear out of no where. Idk. he was a bad man, or so he says, but i feel bad Arthur.
1:13
Arthur: I.. just wanted to say, the debt's cancelled
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Rave Party
It's amazing that we players get to make Arthur who he is by making the right choices, rockstar has developed in a big way, can't wait for GTA6 and RDR3, I hope they make bully 2, it was a great game
I love rdr2, but to me its imposible to play it dishonorable because ir doesnt fit with the story. It's a story about redemption, playing Arthur dishonorably just doesnt fit the characters IMO
josend So you’ve never EVER killed a civilian? Okay
@@supahhotnoodledapx1602 i never said that. I have killed civilians, but it feels out character as well, because no matter how dishonorably you make him, Arthur is an honorable character. A full dishonorable character would be Micah
Or a new game?
Chris Gonc how about a game about Jack Marston And giving you a choice between him making a normal life for himself or following in his fathers Lifestyle
I wish I had done the Strauss missions. This is so heartbreaking. Poor Arthur man.
this is what u get for rushing story mode
You can't skip that them missions there part of the story what game are you playing...?
moody owl production's in chapter 3 the missions are optional
@@supahhotnoodledapx1602 woh im in chapter 3 but this sick arthur here is like chpater 5 i think not 3
Kiya Vas yeah but I’m pretty sure they aren’t mandatory. Since I am on my 3rd playthrough
The writing and dialogue of this game is beyond measure
1:47 "I'm sorry ma'am" with Arthur's sad puppy eyes really pains me
It really scares me that you can learn so much from a person who isn't real
Arthur - A man that never existed...
we’re just going to ignore the fact that it’s a second Arthur lol
Arthur Londonderry died and left his wife and young son alone, because he had to get money to some outlaws.
Arthur Morgan had a wife and son who died and left him alone, all because some outlaws wanted $10.
I think it was because she says “Arthur’s dead”, meaning her husband, but that phrase also applies to our Arthur because he had tuberculosis
That's the point man
What
Akira Kurusu what do you mean what?
Arthur was ready to cry when he said, “I’m sorry ma’am”
I swear I heard a quiver or shake in his voice when he said it.
Fr, I heard it too.
I think the most meaningful thing about this scene to me is that it’s a woman and child who lost their own Arthur. It’s just like Arthur’s girl and son that he talked about previously with Rains Fall and the Sister. It just breaks my heart knowing all of this.
I guess this mission pretty much reflect his way of life.
Ye his son isaac
the voice actor.. jesus christ she's good I wish she got a bigger role
Fun Fact : The CEO of Take 2 Interactive is named Strauss Zelnick.
Whether or not Rockstar employees are trying to subliminally tell us something is up for you to decide.
No they’re not. Your conspiracy theory is idiotic. Strauss is a Germanic surname that is very common dating back thousands of years.
These missions were so painful
The way he says “I’m sorry” is one of the most genuine I’ve ever heard.
01:01 that look Arthur shows his regrets.
"Arthur's dead."
"I know." Why is that so deep to me?
that "really am" was from the bottom of his heart
Strauss was the reason why Arthur Morgan got TB. That's why I hate him.
But the TB is what put him on the path to redemption in the end I think a part of him was died happy knowing he finally did the right thing
Well after the bar fight in valentine Mr Downes gets pretty close to Arthur's face when he's stopping him from killing Tommy, that's why Arthur still gets TB even if you just shoot Mr Downes. So its Mr Downes fault, or maybe even Bill's fault since he started the fight. Or dutch's fault since it was his idea to go east down the mountains in the first place.
@@whatinthegoddamn I didn't realise TB asked for permission to infect people. Sure the circumstances and actions of individuals led to that moment, but no-one knew Downes was ill with TB (Strauss makes the vague allusion to it in mention Downes' passing to Arthur). The point was for Arthur to take responsibility for his actions and the nature of his soul which the TB ultimately provoked him to do.
I mean Strauss is a snake who steals money from the poor for his own benefit, he just used Arthur to do it for him. That's a greater reason to hate him.
@@fellascallmethedrink actually he didnt make money for himself, it was for the gang, and he wasnt the one who chose arthur to take back the depth, it was dutch who told arthur to help strauss in the first place, heck, strauss was loyal, he died by the pinkertons torturing him, and he never said a word, this is what made me realise he isnt that bad as you ppl think he is, by that logic, you should hate arthur in the first 3 chapters when he wasnt a good man, i mean, he couldve told strauss im not doing this right? so hating on strauss is pointless and idiotic
Hold x to lie down with the woman
Ben Rosen WTF 😂😂
Lmfao. :)
@Ben Rosen failure to pleasure a woman is a CRIME.
WANTED
X
The Shredder no one would hold x
Yeah at this point in the game I'm feeling the reconciliation effect of my wrongdoings
At 1:33 I immediately said " I wish I did too"
"Mrs Londonderry"
The Irish:I believe you mean Mrs Derry
"Arthur's dead"
"I know."
Man I really liked Arthur too such a brilliant man yes his past was sick but after all that he wanted to turn his life around but Strauss had to make Arthur have this horrible disease and watch his life end soon 😭
Strauss didn't force Arthur to collect the debts,nor did he make him have a disease.Arthur made choices these choices led him down the path if it weren't for the disease Arthur wouldn't have made the changes he did.
@@alaricdelano8159 Idk about that i'd argue the disease was more of a jump start I think either way Arthur would eventually realize what Dutch was doing especially since he ALWAYS hated Micha.
It's like John is living the life Arthur wanted. I look at it as Arthurs second life.
Have you played rdr1?
The expression on face of Arthur is so realistic it's like actual real life character in this cutscene
I've seen very few games with such realistic facial expression
The voice actor for Arthur is brilliant, I've never heard an apology so genuine before
This goes to show that Arthur fell into the wrong gang…
And also how much a good heart he has.
Man the love, care, and detail poured into this character is simply miraculous.. not to mention Roger Clarke's phenomenal performance. One of gamings all time greats.
Arthur's wife and son died the same way for only 10 bucks. That's why Arthur feels so guilty about this.
“I’m sorry ma’am,I really am” the pain and regret in his voice just makes you feel sorry for him and for them
You'd never see this kind of character development and unconditional kindness from your usual Rockstar protagonist
"I'm sorry maam" and his face made me tear up so god damn much. I love this game
This game has me feeling all sorts of emotions. Arthur is one of my favorite protagonists in a game now. He's a good man who just got dealt a shitty hand in life and fell in with the wrong crowd.
definitely the saddest scene, when he apologises you can feel his emotions. even if he was a fictional character I still believed he was real somewhere. I guess the true meaning of life is to just help people. Just make the good deeds happen and it will all come back to you
See what makes this scene truly perfect is Arthur sees himself in this situation he once had a wife and son and died when he wasn’t around and he meets another man’s family who name he shares which I feel like he can relate to
Arthur's face as he says "I'm sorry ma'am" really hit me hard. You can tell he is truly sorry.
"I know it wont bring your husband back, I know...You need money and I don't"
I thought this was the best scene in the whole game. The voice acting and animation is excellent. Really struck me!
1:24 'cause I got jelly beans.
“You want the food out of our bellies?”
Arthur: ‘Actually, l could eat.’
This is the most honest apology I have ever heard....can't believe it's acting
Me after this mission: Oh looky here! I’m finally in the white area of the honor bar!
Heads into town:
*intervenes fight*
*dude pulls out gun*
*i kill him*
*lose honor*
*witness comes up, I try to stop him*
*witness pulls out gun*
*i kill*
*lose honor*
*repeat*
*Back in low honor for fucks sake*
Hearing the pain in his voice every time he says he's sorry....god damn that hurts. He realises he's been leading the wrong life, he knows damn well he ain't a good man but he's gonna do as much as he can to make things right with what little time he has left. He's not a good man, no, but he's got a golden heart.
Arthur realized it way too late. And he was himself part of the problem big time without even realizing it too. It hits home because Arthur is a lot like folks like me who didn't knew they were doing something wrong at first.
“There’s nothing left mister”
“Well I see a child 🤔 how much he worth to ya”
I can't believe how much I love this game
The transition from a major jerk killing and hurting people without even a whimper to genuinely caring about the people that he ruined the lives of is so seamless and grounded in reality it is horrifying. One of the many reasons I love Arthur as a character so much is that this transition will happen to any one of us when we know that our life is gonna end soon. We all live our life in complete disregard of the lives of others, would that still be the case if we could count the number of days we have on our fingers?
I like Arthur. He’s probably one of my favorite video game protagonists ever, but he knew damn well what he was doing. Eventually growing a conscious does not absolve him of anything. Let’s not pretend that he’s anything less than a robbing, murdering outlaw shall we?
Then you missed the point of the story
I think you missed the point of the story. For starters, you have to give context into why Arthur was an outlaw to begin with. He was an orphan raised by outlaws, he was bread to be an outlaw. It was the only thing he knew. He never blamed anyone else for being an outlaw, getting TB or facing his own death, he knew his actions caused it. And he was never looking to be absolved, the whole point of his story is doing good with the little time he had left and giving others a better path - John, Sadie, Jack, Abigail, etc than what he had.
Despite being kicked out for good reason, he stayed loyal and kept his mouth shut. Horrible person, but loyal.
Loyalty isnt everything, the definition "Horrible person, but loyal" could also apply to Arthur before he got TB, and he deeply regrets that part of his life
Ok Dutch.
@@lean6546 I hate to say but you have a point loyal Isn't everything.
1:13 Arthur is a good boy and for that the animals in the forest behind starting a rave party.
The quietness of the wind blowing through the trees after he says I’m sorry really gets you
Who else stopped taking money after the TB suprise?
When arthur has tb i become more evil,. I rob people, and kill them...
@@MrBenedick14
get some help
@@McGallagher32 I'd say you need to seek help if how people choose to play a video game bothers you that much
@@gunman762 Keyboard warrior
@@BubblesChika
Marry me?
Replays Red Dead 2:
Sees Strauss at camp: INTIMIDATE
Danny Foster micah too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sees Lenny, Hosea, Kieran and Sean: Boys... What about just standing here for the rest of our lifes? This camp it’s not bad at all... Just... don’t pass away fellas...
Antagonize you mean.
What I got from this is that Arthur seen the lady’s son , that he had lost & he’s seeing life differently it’s just the other way around with Arthur being dead & his wife being a window raising her child . He can relate to her life. “Arthur’s dead” was an eye opener cause he too is an Arthur & wish he had what he lost so he also felt bad
Look how he turns his head to the other direction while seeing the kid . Stares away from an embarrassment. This game is a masterpiece! The details on look , voice e.t.c are so true to life . Love Arthur . My favorite character ever created .
This has got to be one of the best stories told in gaming. It never ceases to amaze me. one of the greatest of all time.
This is one of the best games I’ve ever played and Arthur is without a doubt one of the best protagonists in all of gaming. This is the type of game I’d replay with my memory of the game erased.
This Arthur’s death was foreshadowing for Arthur Morgan’s death
We knew Arthur was gonna die as soon as he got TB.
that poor child TT_TT
“I’m sorry ma’am” it his so hard and is really one of the saddest moments in the game
"I'm sorry Ma'am, I really am"
Fuck his voice was so devastated in that line
I am sorry m'am....it kills me everytime...
I figured this out as soon as as i collected the first debt
This 2 minute clip has more emotion than the entire cyberpunk 2077 story
Wrong.
@@danat4914 well I'm convinced
The first Rockstar game that made me willingly want to make my character a better person. I went from “antagonizing” strangers to just saying “hello” to them. I went from starting fights to doing my best to stop them. This game really made me feel like I was part of the arc of the character and it was a truly special experience
Once the story is done, I think we can antagonize anyone for fun without worrying about honor anymore
That "im sorry maam" was almost at the same level of the "im scared"