I recently bought a TISAS Raider 1911 .45 auto for a truck gun. Shot pretty well. Slide to frame fit is excellent, no over bite or under bite, extractor head is blended perfectly as good as my Les Baers and Ed Brown 1911s. No play in the barrel lock up. The thumb safety was a tad loose and not positive click click, so i used a Dremel took with the smallest cutting head to deepen the detent and ordered Wilson plunger spring and new plunger tubes. Dropped it in and instantly got a very positive on/off click click. Good truck, fishing, camping, hiking, and exploring dark, spooky, scary places at night. The Raider has rails and fit the Streamlight TLR-1 1,000 lumen light like it was made for it. For $680 out the door, you can beat it with a stick. The trigger broke between 4.5 to 5 pounds and felt good. I replaced the long plastic trigger with a short aluminum trigger as i have small hands. Shoots just fine. I don't need 3.7 plund trigger for a truck and fishing gun.
Unknown mag was a Metal form brand. Had a gunsmith recommend years ago for a problematic Tisas 1911 I had purchased. He advised the Metal form with the rounded follower was the one that worked best. Still have the Tisas & no issues with those mags.
I've had feeding and jamming issues with nickel plated brass in multiple 1911's. Had a Winchester PDX1 round completely stuck in the chamber of my Dan Wesson CBOB. It was not coming out. Had to remove the main spring housing to relieve tension, put it in a vice and beat the slide back with a mallet. Fun times. Won't run nickel plated brass in 1911's anymore.
I just picked up my first 1911, a Tisas carry in 9mm. I've put 200 rounds through it, having many failures to eject with Blazzer Brass 115gr. I switched to S&B 124 gr. and have only a couple failure to ejects. All of the ejections come straight back and hits me in my forehead. My local gun store says that this is not unusual. I would never consider this a an EDC due to that, but the gun is easy, accurate, and fun to shoot.
Purchased a Tisas SS45R, before it was a known product. Pretty much a loaded stainless 1911 with a rail for $450, from CDNN. All I did was add G10 grips and it was failure-free from the first shot. However, I shoot 230 grain ball ammo. I leave the "best killing ammo" arguments up to other people. (chuckle).
My small sample size... my 1911s do like a break in period. I also find different ammo performs differently. I think I am repeating what Bill Wilson says.
Very impressive shooting . Tisas is underrated and people snub it because it Turkish and cheap . Maybe you can peg your spinner so it wont collapse. Thanks for the shooting review .
@GBGuns are you going to do another review on the night stalker? I'm interested to see how it handles prolonged usage, and have you put any other ammunition specifically any other defensive or +p ammo through the gun? If so how do the externals look after doing so?
@timjr260 we may come back to it later, but typically don't have time (or resources) for extended reviews. There's no need for +p from this barrel length.
I will be getting one, I will add the Hogue Rubber Finger Grove grips. And yes a whole lot of money for a pistol only kind of better. Thanks for another great video!!
I beleive that every 1911 needs a couple hundred rounds for the parts to marry. 500 rounds like some companies want seems a little too much tho. Alot of the wide mouth hollowpoints cause feeding probs. Great job graham
That mag where you didn't know the manufacturer - it's actually a Metalform mag. You can see that exact same emblem on the Metalform home page (not sure if I should provide the URL itself, but it's "Metalform" with a .us suffix).
They have a "Yukon" Carry C10 I believe, due to arrive at some point. A bobtail and 4.25 inch version if my sometimes questionable memory serves me. Thanks for the intro to this one.
I will have to watch full later. I encouraged a couple good friends to look at the Bul 1911 & Ruger SR1911 this past year. One was a 9mm and he got the Bul. The other got a Taurus. But I don't remember this gun at all then.
I have the usual suspects in 9mm. Stacatto, Hayes Custom, Atlas. I saw this pistol at my dealer and it looked good. The fit was very tight and I will oil it before use. The trigger is a compromise, not too hard, not to soft. You can tune it of course. The internals are not MIM, but high grade steel. The issue with MIM is that it wears sooner, although it would take a large number rounds put though. The real issue with MIM is the quality and contaminant of the steel, even wht type of steel is poured. The only concern I have is the thinness of the barrel, even though it is cold-hammered forged. We will see its longevity in the future. If it's case hardened then it should be okay, which is why Tisas used the method iron. Tisas and Girsan, although Turkish guns, listen to the American market and they watch trends. Both have quietly upgraded their offerings knowing American demand for quality.
I got a standard Tisas with a hard chrome barrel. I have FTF issues with supplied mags. Seems to be the last round. It goes 90 percent in and stops. I need to buy and try some Wilson mags. I wanted to put it in a bag and carry it, but I don't trust it. It was only 350 after tax, but I had high hopes. Also the safety has 3 positions. One safe. Two separate clicks for off safe. Both seem to fire fine, but I don't like it. I'm so so accurate when it does work though.
I have Girsan 1911 MC. Did not run with the supplied magazines. I bought some Wilson Combat and ran fine with them. I love the look of the nightstalker 1911. Be curious how the 9mm runs. I ended up picking a px9 gen 3 from your reviews. Awesome gun, still needs break in though. Not locking back on empty consistently yet.
I have one of those, and it took me a while to wear it in before it consistently had minimal feed or extraction issues, which I blame the magazine for that one. Once I got a Wilson Combat magazine in it, it worked great. Teething issues aside from the initial 500, it's got almost 2,000 rds through it now and has been working great.
Awesome review and some great shooting to. The gun looks well made and I like the way its built also. The grips look smooth but you didn't have to much of a problem shooting the 1911. To me it looks like it has a lot of features for the price. Thanks for the video.
Nice Nighthawk tri carry clone. The Smith at Nighthawk made the pistol for his guild test. he has since left nighthawk and if correct, is now on his own. Can't confirm that though. The actual gun this was cloned from also had tri cut front strap. The grips here are a virtual clone of the Night Hawk when they carried this model. I believe they still have the grips/Scales available. KnifeMaker
Gonna be picking up the night stalker tomorrow after work although the one thing I’m changing immediately when i get home is the grips and switching them out with my g10 grips
@@GBGuns Come to think of it, I do remember now that when I shot 45 I remember hearing them smack on the floor, also I think since 45 is subsonic makes less noise when fire to distract the shell sounds
Imma diggin the matte tungsten (?) cerakote finish - kinda has a powder-coating look. At least on this side of the digital divide it does. Be interested in seeing how it holds up to kydex holster ware
I bought the Tisas 1911A1 service special and i have had a at least three rounds that didn't feed and the slide locked back I'm thinking it might be a break in think i don't know but the pistol is starting to rattle more now and that tells me it is getting right so i have bought some Springfield Armory seven round magazines and I'm gonna try them out.
Its funny the range video dropped 4 weeks before the tabletop lol. How much compatibility does this Tisas have with standard 1911 parts? I'd love to see a side by side comparison of budget 1911s, such as this, the Girsan and RIA. This one looks like it has more "bang for the buck " lol.
The tabletop video was even earlier, but when I "publish" a video the date is updated to that day. As far as I see everything 1911 should be compatible with this gun.
They absolutely will fit 90% of parts out there. I have changed all of the internals and trigger on my tisas raider with Wilson and ed brown parts and had to do minimal fitting. Barrel and bushing are original and the things a tack driver at 25 yards. Got mine down to a 2.5lb trigger pull
Still would take the Magnum Research over that any day what the bull barrel made from bull Armory. Just bought Magnum Research and more 1911 10 mm made in Israel by Bull. Best handgun on the market. Best bang-for-the-buck. Guaranteed once you try it you will buy it.👍🏻👍🏻❤❤
I understand your point, but a lot of people like the convenience, and at the range it's a confidence booster as pistols with heavy lights hanging from them are a lot easier to shoot.
I can tell that trigger is heavier than standard by your splits. Feeding issues i would blame on the mags more than anything. Chip McCormick or Tripp cobra mags are the only ones i really trust. Also could be the grips.
I bet it will, the action is sluggish from the cerakote which will wear in. We show guns out of the box so you know what to expect. Tinkering with, modifying, or breaking it in first wouldn't be a fair representation of what you would experience first time out.
What do you mean it doesn't run 🤔, we're you not watching Forest Gump spitting lead downrange like captain Dan catching shrimp??? This was clearly a test of various variables ammo,magazine and accuracy and it's completely clear that it ran with 90% reliability with said ammo and said magazine! Sweet gun glad I bought one. Let's see your unicorn 🦄 1911 video buddy 😉
Well as the title implied I was looking for was a review of the pistol with mag(s) it and maybe 1 or 2 different mags and decent ammo and instead all I got was more different ammo than most of us will ever try. Tells me nothing consistently of this pistol
Too many problems with this pistol with too many different loads & mags. It's a shame as it looks to be a nice shooter. It will take some time time to work the bugs out of it.
We've used 7 yards as a standard for years, it's the distance within which the majority of defensive shooting happens. At 25 yards you'd see my eyesight impact "accuracy" more than the performance of the firearm.
When you shoot a new gun you should have always carry few extra lights recoil springs,FTE problems always because the leak of ammo power factor. Stop blem on the guns.
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Full review with specs and pricing: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/tisas-night-stalker-1911-in-45acp
Did you test the Night Stalker with a Ruger magazine at all
I recently bought a TISAS Raider 1911 .45 auto for a truck gun. Shot pretty well. Slide to frame fit is excellent, no over bite or under bite, extractor head is blended perfectly as good as my Les Baers and Ed Brown 1911s. No play in the barrel lock up. The thumb safety was a tad loose and not positive click click, so i used a Dremel took with the smallest cutting head to deepen the detent and ordered Wilson plunger spring and new plunger tubes. Dropped it in and instantly got a very positive on/off click click. Good truck, fishing, camping, hiking, and exploring dark, spooky, scary places at night. The Raider has rails and fit the Streamlight TLR-1 1,000 lumen light like it was made for it. For $680 out the door, you can beat it with a stick.
The trigger broke between 4.5 to 5 pounds and felt good. I replaced the long plastic trigger with a short aluminum trigger as i have small hands. Shoots just fine. I don't need 3.7 plund trigger for a truck and fishing gun.
Unknown mag was a Metal form brand. Had a gunsmith recommend years ago for a problematic Tisas 1911 I had purchased. He advised the Metal form with the rounded follower was the one that worked best. Still have the Tisas & no issues with those mags.
Yep, they used to make springfield mags too
Wilson followers/springs in kimber mag bodies are unstoppable in every 1911.
I had some metal form 9mm mags that were impeccable
I liked this review so much that I immediatly ordered the Night Stalker in 10mm. Now I just have to wait for it to be delivered to my FFL. Thanks!
Get it yet? I'm ordering one in 10mm tomorrow
Same
I have had my eye on the Tisas Special Service for a while, reminds me of the 1911's I saw in the early 1980's. Great review GB..thanks
I've had feeding and jamming issues with nickel plated brass in multiple 1911's. Had a Winchester PDX1 round completely stuck in the chamber of my Dan Wesson CBOB. It was not coming out. Had to remove the main spring housing to relieve tension, put it in a vice and beat the slide back with a mallet. Fun times. Won't run nickel plated brass in 1911's anymore.
I just picked up my first 1911, a Tisas carry in 9mm. I've put 200 rounds through it, having many failures to eject with Blazzer Brass 115gr. I switched to S&B 124 gr. and have only a couple failure to ejects. All of the ejections come straight back and hits me in my forehead. My local gun store says that this is not unusual. I would never consider this a an EDC due to that, but the gun is easy, accurate, and fun to shoot.
Probably needs the extractor tuned, and maybe a different recoil spring.
How’s it working now? I’ve heard many problems with 9mm 1911s
Purchased a Tisas SS45R, before it was a known product. Pretty much a loaded stainless 1911 with a rail for $450, from CDNN. All I did was add G10 grips and it was failure-free from the first shot. However, I shoot 230 grain ball ammo. I leave the "best killing ammo" arguments up to other people. (chuckle).
My small sample size... my 1911s do like a break in period. I also find different ammo performs differently. I think I am repeating what Bill Wilson says.
My series 70 Colt 1911 got stolen a long time ago. Now I have a Filipino 1911, and some kind of stainless Turkish 1911 w/rail. Both in .45.
man, you are so right about the importance of the magazine for a well functioning firearm.
I have used Wilson Combat for decades. Never failed or caused a failure.
Break-in needed for all firearms I say. Break-in=better fit for moving parts, 1000 rounds is my standard.
I agree
True
Very impressive shooting . Tisas is underrated and people snub it because it Turkish and cheap . Maybe you can peg your spinner so it wont collapse. Thanks for the shooting review .
I need to be able to pack up the swinger for transport, that's why I've always left it a quick take down.
@GBGuns are you going to do another review on the night stalker? I'm interested to see how it handles prolonged usage, and have you put any other ammunition specifically any other defensive or +p ammo through the gun? If so how do the externals look after doing so?
@timjr260 we may come back to it later, but typically don't have time (or resources) for extended reviews. There's no need for +p from this barrel length.
Appreciate the review brother. Because of your video I decided to pick up the 10mm version. Its a great looking firearm.
I will be getting one, I will add the Hogue Rubber Finger Grove grips. And yes a whole lot of money for a pistol only kind of better. Thanks for another great video!!
I beleive that every 1911 needs a couple hundred rounds for the parts to marry. 500 rounds like some companies want seems a little too much tho. Alot of the wide mouth hollowpoints cause feeding probs. Great job graham
I'm co fident this will smoothen put after more rounds. The cerakote on the rails is slowing the slide.
That mag where you didn't know the manufacturer - it's actually a Metalform mag.
You can see that exact same emblem on the Metalform home page (not sure if I should provide the URL itself, but it's "Metalform" with a .us suffix).
They have a "Yukon" Carry C10 I believe, due to arrive at some point. A bobtail and 4.25 inch version if my sometimes questionable memory serves me. Thanks for the intro to this one.
Yes have had good experience with
Metalform
Another good one! Thanks for the share!!
Great review, thanks for all the great observations
I will have to watch full later. I encouraged a couple good friends to look at the Bul 1911 & Ruger SR1911 this past year. One was a 9mm and he got the Bul. The other got a Taurus. But I don't remember this gun at all then.
Great review!
Yeah, this one goes on “the list”.
I’d swap out the grips, use Wilson mags and call it a day.
I have the 10mm, luv it!
10mm version interests me
Great job. Interesting look at the Tisas.
I have the usual suspects in 9mm. Stacatto, Hayes Custom, Atlas. I saw this pistol at my dealer and it looked good. The fit was very tight and I will oil it before use. The trigger is a compromise, not too hard, not to soft. You can tune it of course. The internals are not MIM, but high grade steel. The issue with MIM is that it wears sooner, although it would take a large number rounds put though. The real issue with MIM is the quality and contaminant of the steel, even wht type of steel is poured. The only concern I have is the thinness of the barrel, even though it is cold-hammered forged. We will see its longevity in the future. If it's case hardened then it should be okay, which is why Tisas used the method iron. Tisas and Girsan, although Turkish guns, listen to the American market and they watch trends. Both have quietly upgraded their offerings knowing American demand for quality.
Current opinions on the Tisas?
I got a standard Tisas with a hard chrome barrel. I have FTF issues with supplied mags. Seems to be the last round. It goes 90 percent in and stops. I need to buy and try some Wilson mags. I wanted to put it in a bag and carry it, but I don't trust it. It was only 350 after tax, but I had high hopes. Also the safety has 3 positions. One safe. Two separate clicks for off safe. Both seem to fire fine, but I don't like it. I'm so so accurate when it does work though.
Try some different magazines
I have Girsan 1911 MC. Did not run with the supplied magazines. I bought some Wilson Combat and ran fine with them. I love the look of the nightstalker 1911. Be curious how the 9mm runs. I ended up picking a px9 gen 3 from your reviews. Awesome gun, still needs break in though. Not locking back on empty consistently yet.
You could also try some hotter ammo. Check k our list for what's got more energy than what you currently run
I have one of those, and it took me a while to wear it in before it consistently had minimal feed or extraction issues, which I blame the magazine for that one. Once I got a Wilson Combat magazine in it, it worked great. Teething issues aside from the initial 500, it's got almost 2,000 rds through it now and has been working great.
Awesome review and some great shooting to. The gun looks well made and I like the way its built also. The grips look smooth but you didn't have to much of a problem shooting the 1911. To me it looks like it has a lot of features for the price. Thanks for the video.
Front and backstrap matters most.
Thanks again for your hard work.
Cool name for a cool gun. Looks fun!
Been waiting to add this one to my collection. Great job as always.
Thanks for the video
Nice Nighthawk tri carry clone. The Smith at Nighthawk made the pistol for his guild test. he has since left nighthawk and if correct, is now on his own. Can't confirm that though.
The actual gun this was cloned from also had tri cut front strap. The grips here are a virtual clone of the Night Hawk when they carried this model. I believe they still have the grips/Scales available.
KnifeMaker
Gonna be picking up the night stalker tomorrow after work although the one thing I’m changing immediately when i get home is the grips and switching them out with my g10 grips
Can you tell me what G-10 grips you used? Thanks.
I live the sound of 45 acp brass hitting the concrete
Is it different than other calibers brass? I like the sound too
I think it has to do with the internal volume of the shell for transferring sound
@@GBGuns yes bigger and more weight
@@waterhead1359 and different diameter for a different sound. Like pipes
@@GBGuns Come to think of it, I do remember now that when I shot 45 I remember hearing them smack on the floor, also I think since 45 is subsonic makes less noise when fire to distract the shell sounds
I really like the looks of this one 👍🇺🇸
Thank you keep up the good work 👍
They look like Metalform mags🤠
Thank you, I drew a blank on the name.
Hey Graham, hope Teya is doing okay. Hope to see her at the range with her impressions and review soon!
Imma diggin the matte tungsten (?) cerakote finish - kinda has a powder-coating look. At least on this side of the digital divide it does. Be interested in seeing how it holds up to kydex holster ware
I bought the Tisas 1911A1 service special and i have had a at least three rounds that didn't feed and the slide locked back I'm thinking it might be a break in think i don't know but the pistol is starting to rattle more now and that tells me it is getting right so i have bought some Springfield Armory seven round magazines and I'm gonna try them out.
Its funny the range video dropped 4 weeks before the tabletop lol. How much compatibility does this Tisas have with standard 1911 parts? I'd love to see a side by side comparison of budget 1911s, such as this, the Girsan and RIA. This one looks like it has more "bang for the buck " lol.
The tabletop video was even earlier, but when I "publish" a video the date is updated to that day. As far as I see everything 1911 should be compatible with this gun.
They absolutely will fit 90% of parts out there. I have changed all of the internals and trigger on my tisas raider with Wilson and ed brown parts and had to do minimal fitting. Barrel and bushing are original and the things a tack driver at 25 yards. Got mine down to a 2.5lb trigger pull
That's a hungry man right there. - John Goodman.
Still would take the Magnum Research over that any day what the bull barrel made from bull Armory. Just bought Magnum Research and more 1911 10 mm made in Israel by Bull. Best handgun on the market. Best bang-for-the-buck. Guaranteed once you try it you will buy it.👍🏻👍🏻❤❤
Not a 1911 guy, but this one looks pretty cool.
For a budget 1911 tisas is pretty cool. I have the nightstalker and the duty they run
I'd still change the grips
They do look cheap
I’d change them too.
Yeah, seems like those would be slick.
Try their D10. Mine runs flawlessly.
@GBGuns Plan on purchasing a SAR K2 45. The barrel is 4.7 in. Is that a good length for a 45ACP handgun?
That's a good length, 5" is the ideal, and the longer the slide the easier they are to shoot, but 4.7 isn't much shorter.
Glock21 has a 4.6 barrel and its been stoping bad people for a while now.
My wife says anything over 4" is good
what do you hang on a rail that does not violate rule #2? Great shooting thanks.
I understand your point, but a lot of people like the convenience, and at the range it's a confidence booster as pistols with heavy lights hanging from them are a lot easier to shoot.
CORBON, Plus P 185 Grain my carry gun is a Para Ordnance P12 (steel frame) I'd go into Hell with it.
I can tell that trigger is heavier than standard by your splits. Feeding issues i would blame on the mags more than anything. Chip McCormick or Tripp cobra mags are the only ones i really trust. Also could be the grips.
Are new 1911s, such as the Nightstalker, more capable of feeding hollow points than the models of yore?
I believe so. Most of the modern models we've handled can at least run common hollow points
What do you think about the 10 round 1911 pro mag in general? Would it work with the springfield armory garrison 1911?
It'll fit anything that doesn't have a magwell, or you could trim it. ProMags aren't great, but this one works.
Awesome looking gun, although with a creepy name like night stalker I would think the gun would be black?
What type of stand was that that you knocked over?
@GBGuns Does it take any aftermarket full size grips? Like on Amazon?
I believe so, just make sure you get something cut for the ambi safety.
@@GBGunsAwesome thank you. I have this gun on layaway but as soon as I get it I’m looking forward to shooting it!
Nice review, that gun doesn’t run, would live to see if it gets to 100% with some break in.
I bet it will, the action is sluggish from the cerakote which will wear in. We show guns out of the box so you know what to expect. Tinkering with, modifying, or breaking it in first wouldn't be a fair representation of what you would experience first time out.
What do you mean it doesn't run 🤔, we're you not watching Forest Gump spitting lead downrange like captain Dan catching shrimp??? This was clearly a test of various variables ammo,magazine and accuracy and it's completely clear that it ran with 90% reliability with said ammo and said magazine! Sweet gun glad I bought one. Let's see your unicorn 🦄 1911 video buddy 😉
Any recommendation on a slim grip that uses the original screws?
Good Video ... fair test of ammo and pistol !
That's the goal!
Come on dude no Wilson combat 10rd mags that are made to go in with a Magwell?
The 10mm makes me go hmmmmm…..lol
Shouldn't a gun named "The Night Stalker" have a blued or melonite finish?
Filled mine with chicken because thats what we had for dinner.
Did you place a primer in it?
Mag with the "CM" on it is a Chip McCormick magazine.
I like the raider more
I do not understand the grip? It’s like a temporary cost savings knowing most owners will replace them?
Tisas 1911 10mm Night Stalker, has anyone had an issue with ejecting a live round. This thing flat refuses to eject a live round.
Umm sir, no I do not know what dead flesh sitting in the sun smells like. And I don't want to😅
Well as the title implied I was looking for was a review of the pistol with mag(s) it and maybe 1 or 2 different mags and decent ammo and instead all I got was more different ammo than most of us will ever try. Tells me nothing consistently of this pistol
Wisdom pursues you, but you have proven quicker.
@@GBGunstouche’ lol
😊😊
Metalform…
Too many problems with this pistol with too many different loads & mags. It's a shame as it looks to be a nice shooter. It will take some time time to work the bugs out of it.
I could do without the holes in the slide.
Less reciprocating mass = less muzzle flip.
I love mine guy's, but I just can't find the H in pronouncing Tisas lol.
That's how it's pronounced in Turkish.
Wow! 7 yards ... 50% more than 5 yards ... I wonder what it would do at 25 yds.,
We've used 7 yards as a standard for years, it's the distance within which the majority of defensive shooting happens. At 25 yards you'd see my eyesight impact "accuracy" more than the performance of the firearm.
Cool pistol. Stupid name.
When you shoot a new gun you should have always carry few extra lights recoil springs,FTE problems always because the leak of ammo power factor. Stop blem on the guns.