The Nero Show was spot on in their prediction about this a week ago! Giant are wise to fly you out to see this wonderful bike David. It looks amazing. If I was going to buy a new bike, I would seriously consider this. Giant makes great bikes that perform very well and which are great value. What’s not to like.
Yep. No regrets at all buying the old TCR 3 months ago, especially at a big discount. Minor improvements, but price increases on the new models seem to be limited too, so looks like TCR's still offer incredible price/performance. Looking forward to the factory video very much.
Not really a good price. Now TCR is about same price as Trek, Bmc and other brands. With current discount on groupsets you can buy any frame, wheels, kit plus electronic groupset and build whatever you like.
@@stanislavkindiakov6334 they are much cheaper in Asia compare to Trek and Canyon, but in NA and EU region they become similar because they r not domestic brands +cost of distribution are higher
@@stanislavkindiakov6334it's about £1500 less frame only. Even at halo spec, full build, that translates. Is it expensive? Absolutely. But the SWORKS and Trek frames are ridiculously priced in comparison.
Giant is killing it in my opinion. I have a 2023 Defy and am very happy. But the new Defy and this are raising the bar. My favorite thing about Giant is the value. Many people don’t know how good these bikes are because they prefer to pay more for the same or even less.
Giant does it again. Lovely paint. I'm looking forward to the factory tour video. My inner geek is impressed with Giants investments in lean manufacturing and robotics.
I have a 2021 advanced pro 0 like yours (which is why I started following your channel many moons ago). It's a stunning bike to ride. Massive fan of the TCR and will definitely be in the market for another one day
I have a (now) last-gen TCR. I love the thing. My vote is that they've haven't done enough to make me even think about upgrading, and I feel like the price went up at a time everyone's talking about bike prices falling. Glad I got the last-gen for that cheaper price.
A great "first impressions" vid. With the regular comparison references being made to the Tarmac SL8, it certainly gives the impression the new tweaked TCR is certainly up there in the top pedigree of bikes
Tcr is my dreambike coz I just like the geometry of the bike. It looks like fast and comfy a really tarmac like but more lighter. Hoping to get my hands on this someday
It's cool. But it's also good to know I have peak TCR with the previous gen to this new one. As a home mech for my friends and I it's good to be able to change stems/bars if needed. I came from an emonda with metron 5d acr integrated and I don't regret it at all. I adore my 2023 TCR advanced pro disc with DA-9170 finally a bike that I can say is THE BIKE for me. The only thing the new one has that I'd like is the lack of the little web foot-looking piece between the seat stays. Thanks for the first impression though Dave! Was excited to see what they came up with. Now it seems there wasn't much they could improve on without changing the bike entirely.
lol. I lived in Hong Kong for many years- just a quick hop from Taiwan. It was always hot and humid and I never got used to it- I just stopped moaning about it. I guess David wasn't there long enough. The conditions did seem to dampen his enthusiasm for what appears to be an amazing machine. Looking forward to his review from the Costwolds.
Taiwan looks like a place to visit if your in the far east definitely love to see that giant museum , there’s a 1000 kilometre cycle around the whole island that looks cool . Be great to head to Taiwan and then on to Japan
Awesome. I've been meaning to update my older SL0 with rim brakes to a new SL0! I ride in a rolling and mountainous area in the Canadian foothills and rockies and found the TCR to tackle it all with a big fun factor. Not so sure on aero as I do not race or tackle time trials solo. Legs make the big difference and the guys on brand new Aeroads, Cervelo S5s, BMCs and Tarmacs are always behind me on my long 100km+ rides. Good to see light and fun still rules!!
not sure how i feel about the new update. Visually they got rid of that fin that spans between the seat stays connecting to the seat tube...im going to miss that. I thought i'd be more excited to see internal cable routing...but its really not noticable...certainly more annoying to work on. They also raised the price down the line. yuck. There is no better time to get the outgoing generation than now with all the sales going on.
I love 2 pieces handlebar for easier adjustment, services and packing up in my bike bag as well. I need to take the handlebar off and lower the seatpost before putting in the bag, so the feature is a plus. The next question for me is how it rides compare to the new Defy? Does bigger tire clearance and slower(but might be more comfort) make any difference?
Really great review David. Actually very honest and balanced, which is nicely surprising considering they invited you out there! But those prices?😮 They’re on a par with Spesh and Pinarelo. Though the Pina is a bit of a fat boy and the Spesh is a bit ugly in my opinion. The TCR looks rather sexy. But I’m sure most people, when spending £10-12K, would rather have Spesh or Pina on their frame than Giant?? Nice one though David. Blessings from Dorset.😎👍🏻
Great video and nice bike, but that free hub noise would drive me mad. I have a Giant Defy Advanced 2, 2019 and I don’t get that noise from it. And it still looks good and rides well. The TCR looks nice but couldn’t justify paying that amount for it, couldn’t afford it anyway. I’m 62 years old and just like going out for a nice relaxed ride, not head down and go for it, my body constantly tells me to behave.
@@saxon1376considering Lotto Dstny mechanics struggled last week to keep a tyre on a pro bike i’m not sure what chance the rest of us have. There’s not much fun riding at speed downhill and hoping your pump pressure gauge is accurate to 1 psi and your bloody tyre isn’t going to unseat itself
It’s not that hard Go onto your wheel manufacturers website And fill in some simple details Your maximum pressure will be shown 🤷🤷🤷 that’s maximum which you shouldn’t run anyway
Hi David - great vid as always. When will you be reviewing the Everyman Adv Pro 0 back in UK? Btw you should make a trip to Oz for Tour Down Under in Jan - some great content there riding around Oz!!
Thanks, and yes there is an Adv Pro on its way to me soon, an Ultegra spec I believe - stay tuned. And Tour Down Under is on my list, never been before so going to try and make it happen. Maybe you can suggest some good routes?
Love giant bikes. At least they didn’t lie about their aero gains like most manufacturers. Hopefully they’ll be able to supply an ultegra 105 version without the fancy wheels. Those cadex won’t work in the uk or Ireland where I’m from. The roads are too bad.
Giant have put the TCR in a weird spot, if you want to go quick, buy a Propel, if you want something a bit more nimble and practical buy an old TCR, if you want 1mm more tyre clearance and to save 75 grams, buy a new TCR?
I had the propel and sold it - found it was fast when ur already going fast. Getting up to speed and for agility and snappy feeling ? Tcr is better imo
Hi David! Great video and review, as all yours are. Just wondering which Castelli jersey you are wearing in the video. It looks really good and I want to order one. Thanks, Mark R,
It was always going to happen, I really want to buy the last of the previous generation, i want to stick with mechanical gears, and I don't want cables through the stem.
No matter how good this bike may be, the cost is disgusting. How can this ever be justified? Brand new Honda Africa Twin motorcycle for similar money. Madness.
Personally glad for two piece bar/stem. Whats the point of a one piece bar and stem when usually spec M/L or L with bars as wide as the golden gate bridge....(eg 42/44). Lose all aero benefit.... when will the major brands let the customer pick the bar width
Awesome video being able to see the home of Giant and the factory,I owned a Giant Alegré (1997) cr-mo steel road bike and it was really a good frame.Safe riding.💯🚴♀️✌🏻💪🏻
If the wheels are all hookless it pretty crap. I was going to get a new propel but the wheels stopped that. I asked the bike shop about running 28" @ 85/90 psi as im a heavier rider(95kg) and they didn't have anything to say on it
@@davidarthur that's not happening on Devon roads and racing time trials. Impact forces with 100kg rider traveling at speed is a recipe for disaster. Thanks for the great content as always 👊
Hello there. This bike, or Canyon Ultimate? I have an old Giant TCR C2 but all the buddies say it's time. Oh and nice video BTW. Wish I could ride there. Thanks.
Nice bike, I got 100 miles in my Merida scultura endurance rival and I've had top bikes, and Iove the Merida , 2500 bargin 32 tyres for UK roads, you don't need these expensive bikes. End of
I think they are looking more twiggy than the previous generations. Would it be more fragile if knocked from the side? Would the fork withstand the powerful braking force from the disc brake? Especially with a heavier rider?
Do you have any idea if it worths upgrading to new Cadex max 40 system while currently using old Cadex 42mm wheels with 19.4mm rim width? I’m using 28mm tires. No comparison or info available between new max 40 and old 42. Thanks.
Going to make a huge difference to average guy if bike is 7kg instead of 10,5kg. Im not extra fit but I blast past people on 5-10k€ bikes often. Dont spend on stuff you dont need, aka 30W saved at 40kmh dont matter if you go 24kmh. Just buy a comfy cheaper bike and 100liters of beer.
Ppl have been saying now all frames are now made in Taiwan regardless of what brand they are in the market today I believe they also produce good-quality frames more stiffer I believe I have an OEM Dogma F from Taiwan I already clocked 1k + 37 kmph till today No issue at all☝️🏻
Dave Arthur always first vid in the queue to watch when a new bike is dropped
How close was the thumbnail to your predication?
🤛
The comment that I’m looking for 😂
Chris called the thumb 😂
Your TCR is better 😅
The Nero Show was spot on in their prediction about this a week ago! Giant are wise to fly you out to see this wonderful bike David. It looks amazing. If I was going to buy a new bike, I would seriously consider this. Giant makes great bikes that perform very well and which are great value. What’s not to like.
Yep. No regrets at all buying the old TCR 3 months ago, especially at a big discount.
Minor improvements, but price increases on the new models seem to be limited too, so looks like TCR's still offer incredible price/performance.
Looking forward to the factory video very much.
Not really a good price. Now TCR is about same price as Trek, Bmc and other brands. With current discount on groupsets you can buy any frame, wheels, kit plus electronic groupset and build whatever you like.
@@stanislavkindiakov6334 they are much cheaper in Asia compare to Trek and Canyon, but in NA and EU region they become similar because they r not domestic brands +cost of distribution are higher
@@stanislavkindiakov6334it's about £1500 less frame only. Even at halo spec, full build, that translates.
Is it expensive? Absolutely. But the SWORKS and Trek frames are ridiculously priced in comparison.
Say what you want, giant makes exceptional race bikes.
I am convinced David has already ridden and reviewed the SL10
🤣
@@davidarthur please 🙏🏾 new tcr or cannodale lab 71
Recently upgraded my 2011 SL3 Pro Tarmac to a 2019 TCR Advance Pro rimbrake and it is a monster, cant imagine how it could be so much better
Someone wake the Nero boys up
He did it! He did the arrow!
Haha how’s the arrow like Chris said
They called it in there last video.
They had 'lightest TCR ever?' though, Chris in shambles
I didn't think he'd do the arrow!
Giant is killing it in my opinion. I have a 2023 Defy and am very happy. But the new Defy and this are raising the bar. My favorite thing about Giant is the value. Many people don’t know how good these bikes are because they prefer to pay more for the same or even less.
Giant does it again. Lovely paint. I'm looking forward to the factory tour video. My inner geek is impressed with Giants investments in lean manufacturing and robotics.
I have a 2021 advanced pro 0 like yours (which is why I started following your channel many moons ago). It's a stunning bike to ride. Massive fan of the TCR and will definitely be in the market for another one day
I have a (now) last-gen TCR. I love the thing. My vote is that they've haven't done enough to make me even think about upgrading, and I feel like the price went up at a time everyone's talking about bike prices falling. Glad I got the last-gen for that cheaper price.
Your headset is also faster and less expensive to maintain since it's easier to work on.
0:53 is probably one of the best bikes ever !
Dam....everyone bashing the new TCR.....IF MY OLD MODEL IS STILL BAD ASS.....SO IS THIS ONE..
I totally wish I had this new one..
A great "first impressions" vid. With the regular comparison references being made to the Tarmac SL8, it certainly gives the impression the new tweaked TCR is certainly up there in the top pedigree of bikes
These SL frames are nice for short or quick group rides. Traveled on them for long rides and they feel some times a little too stiff.
Watching this just to hear Dave say "TEEEEZEEAR"
That paint looks great. The whole frame looks clean.
Tcr is my dreambike coz I just like the geometry of the bike. It looks like fast and comfy a really tarmac like but more lighter. Hoping to get my hands on this someday
It's cool. But it's also good to know I have peak TCR with the previous gen to this new one. As a home mech for my friends and I it's good to be able to change stems/bars if needed. I came from an emonda with metron 5d acr integrated and I don't regret it at all. I adore my 2023 TCR advanced pro disc with DA-9170 finally a bike that I can say is THE BIKE for me. The only thing the new one has that I'd like is the lack of the little web foot-looking piece between the seat stays. Thanks for the first impression though Dave! Was excited to see what they came up with. Now it seems there wasn't much they could improve on without changing the bike entirely.
lol. I lived in Hong Kong for many years- just a quick hop from Taiwan. It was always hot and humid and I never got used to it- I just stopped moaning about it. I guess David wasn't there long enough. The conditions did seem to dampen his enthusiasm for what appears to be an amazing machine. Looking forward to his review from the Costwolds.
Looks great. Always been my favourite race bike owned a couple in the past. Thanks for the video 👍
Taiwan looks like a place to visit if your in the far east definitely love to see that giant museum , there’s a 1000 kilometre cycle around the whole island that looks cool . Be great to head to Taiwan and then on to Japan
The rims look just stunning
The TCR is surely one of the best enduring bikes. Legendary. Just a shame about hookless rims.
Great 1st impressions and review....Very interested to see your home roads review in the near future!!
Cheers Mate, Pjw
Great! I'm a proud TCR adv pro 1 disc 2021 owner here. Looking forward to own this new gen TCR. nice video, cheers David👍
Awesome. I've been meaning to update my older SL0 with rim brakes to a new SL0! I ride in a rolling and mountainous area in the Canadian foothills and rockies and found the TCR to tackle it all with a big fun factor. Not so sure on aero as I do not race or tackle time trials solo. Legs make the big difference and the guys on brand new Aeroads, Cervelo S5s, BMCs and Tarmacs are always behind me on my long 100km+ rides. Good to see light and fun still rules!!
TOM DUMOULIN!!!
Hi David
Great video as always 👍 good looking bike with a super light wheels. Enjoy the riding 🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
Please do a more in depth report on Cadex Max 40. Thanks in advance!! You're footage here is the best in the net so far..
Thanks for the kind comment and I do hope to do a more in-depth review on the wheels when I get a pair to test in the future
You forgot to mention that it's still available as a rim brake frame set. Save the rim brake.
The rim brake counterpart is still the ninth-generation, right?
@@yonglingng5640 yes it's a £100 cheaper than the disc version.
@@luketoms6110 Not sure how much longer they're going to keep that version in production.
@yonglingng5640 There is still a market for the rim version, just not full bikes.
This new one is disc brake only, so buy the previous one while you still can
not sure how i feel about the new update. Visually they got rid of that fin that spans between the seat stays connecting to the seat tube...im going to miss that. I thought i'd be more excited to see internal cable routing...but its really not noticable...certainly more annoying to work on. They also raised the price down the line. yuck. There is no better time to get the outgoing generation than now with all the sales going on.
They raised the price but included power meters
That fin was one of my favorite parts of the tcr
You're best vid yet, Dave.
😎
the roads and scenery are beautiful!!
I love 2 pieces handlebar for easier adjustment, services and packing up in my bike bag as well. I need to take the handlebar off and lower the seatpost before putting in the bag, so the feature is a plus. The next question for me is how it rides compare to the new Defy? Does bigger tire clearance and slower(but might be more comfort) make any difference?
Really great review David. Actually very honest and balanced, which is nicely surprising considering they invited you out there! But those prices?😮 They’re on a par with Spesh and Pinarelo. Though the Pina is a bit of a fat boy and the Spesh is a bit ugly in my opinion. The TCR looks rather sexy. But I’m sure most people, when spending £10-12K, would rather have Spesh or Pina on their frame than Giant??
Nice one though David.
Blessings from Dorset.😎👍🏻
Quality Vid, info and filming too. Kudos
Thanks 🙏
Was that Ben Delaney in that group with you, you beat him posting your TCR video first, lol! Cool to see you both over there!
Yeah good to spend time with Ben
Integrated seat post is a dealbreaker.
Hoping they would have lost that feature too!!!
Just get the lower tier model?
The very top model has been ISP for years. The 2nd tier has a seatpost like it always did.
So glad that giant make their high end in Taiwan.
Great video and nice bike, but that free hub noise would drive me mad. I have a Giant Defy Advanced 2, 2019 and I don’t get that noise from it. And it still looks good and rides well. The TCR looks nice but couldn’t justify paying that amount for it, couldn’t afford it anyway. I’m 62 years old and just like going out for a nice relaxed ride, not head down and go for it, my body constantly tells me to behave.
Curious to see what Simon Yates can do in this bike. He's already won the 2024 Alula tour.
pretty cool! I think if we the riders put some aero one piece bars on it we could get another 2-5 watts depending on the stack and rider.
Also equipped with some lovely deathtrap hookless wheels
Only a death trap if you don’t know about your own bike 🤷
You noticed how he doesnt mention this at all - nor do Giant. Really show where they priritise customer safety conerns.
@@saxon1376 No customer should need a degree in hookless to safely ride a bike.
@@saxon1376considering Lotto Dstny mechanics struggled last week to keep a tyre on a pro bike i’m not sure what chance the rest of us have. There’s not much fun riding at speed downhill and hoping your pump pressure gauge is accurate to 1 psi and your bloody tyre isn’t going to unseat itself
It’s not that hard
Go onto your wheel manufacturers website
And fill in some simple details
Your maximum pressure will be shown 🤷🤷🤷 that’s maximum which you shouldn’t run anyway
cadex wheels looks so gooood
Is it hookless? Hookless is shit imho
Yeah hookless
The silence form David and Giant over hookless is deafening
The TCR is lovely but I'd rather have a Defy.
without a doubt.
Damn it - just sold my previous-model TCR... should have held on to it,as its identical. I was already cutting edge.
❤🎉 you’re in Taiwan now? ! My country 😎
Absolute beauty 🔥
David, which one do you prefer - TCR or Defy?
Hi David - great vid as always. When will you be reviewing the Everyman Adv Pro 0 back in UK? Btw you should make a trip to Oz for Tour Down Under in Jan - some great content there riding around Oz!!
Thanks, and yes there is an Adv Pro on its way to me soon, an Ultegra spec I believe - stay tuned. And Tour Down Under is on my list, never been before so going to try and make it happen. Maybe you can suggest some good routes?
Best all rounder bike compared to the overprice sl8 lmao
How would you compare this bike against the tarmac sl8 and the propel? Would love to know your opinion maybe in the next video?
I like the 16 spoke front wheel.
Love giant bikes. At least they didn’t lie about their aero gains like most manufacturers. Hopefully they’ll be able to supply an ultegra 105 version without the fancy wheels. Those cadex won’t work in the uk or Ireland where I’m from. The roads are too bad.
Will you review the TCR Advanced Pro at some point?
Giant have put the TCR in a weird spot, if you want to go quick, buy a Propel, if you want something a bit more nimble and practical buy an old TCR, if you want 1mm more tyre clearance and to save 75 grams, buy a new TCR?
dont worry it will sell like hot cakes.
I had the propel and sold it - found it was fast when ur already going fast. Getting up to speed and for agility and snappy feeling ? Tcr is better imo
SORRY, DIDN'T CATCH THAT, DID YOU SAY THE FREEHUB MAKES A RACKET?? 🤣(Seriously though, great looking bike!)
Giant bikes used to be a good value. On the expensive side relative to the competition now is my impression.
I like the way that if one squints, it almost doesn't look like a disc braked bike. Which if one must have these naff things, is a plus.
the goat TCR
That freehub 😮💨
Hi David! Great video and review, as all yours are. Just wondering which Castelli jersey you are wearing in the video. It looks really good and I want to order one. Thanks, Mark R,
Thanks. That was the Castelli Climbers jersey v3, think they've got a v4 out now - Castelli clothing bit.ly/justridebikes
@@davidarthur ..great, thanks!
Great bike - free hub sound was killing my ears today.
And I’m usually a big fan of a noisy hub
Looks nice but for 12000£ you could wish for a nicer cockpit than a round simple handlebar 😮
It was always going to happen, I really want to buy the last of the previous generation, i want to stick with mechanical gears, and I don't want cables through the stem.
No matter how good this bike may be, the cost is disgusting. How can this ever be justified? Brand new Honda Africa Twin motorcycle for similar money. Madness.
Come on! They have to fly all these journalists / ex pro cyclists on a mini holiday to ride bikes. Giant needs to pay for it somehow..
@@sonyvaioboy of course. It’s such a shame.
Personally glad for two piece bar/stem. Whats the point of a one piece bar and stem when usually spec M/L or L with bars as wide as the golden gate bridge....(eg 42/44). Lose all aero benefit.... when will the major brands let the customer pick the bar width
Awesome video being able to see the home of Giant and the factory,I owned a Giant Alegré (1997) cr-mo steel road bike and it was really a good frame.Safe riding.💯🚴♀️✌🏻💪🏻
put it in the wind tunnel test you did previously
If the wheels are all hookless it pretty crap. I was going to get a new propel but the wheels stopped that. I asked the bike shop about running 28" @ 85/90 psi as im a heavier rider(95kg) and they didn't have anything to say on it
They should have told you that you only need about 66 psi for your rider weight and width tyres
@@davidarthur that's not happening on Devon roads and racing time trials. Impact forces with 100kg rider traveling at speed is a recipe for disaster. Thanks for the great content as always 👊
Loved that has no integrated bar, thanks god for that! Sensible decision for us normal humans, with so many different propostions….
Would love to have this with rimbrakes.
I just want the very old TCR back,thanks.
Well, it’s not exciting, but it looks like a quality bike at a more honest price than its competitors. 🙌
"Faster, lighter, stiffer" Tom knew it was a joke 😂
I have no doubt this new model is all that but! aesthetically I prefer the shape and lines of the older models, like the Rabobank model.
looks great.
interesting that David has headtube spacers on the new TCR vs his current TCR pro which has none. different head tube sizes on new TCR?
Welcome to TW!!!
I prefer the new Defy, to be honest. And I suppose it suits my Mamil's necessities much better.
2024tcr的管型跟propel 有90%相似
Love my 2021 mechanical ultegra rim brake tcr ❤ not sure id spend xKs on this to upgrade tho. Lovely bike!.
Electronic is a level above mate.
@@magnusschroeder9806 not when your batteries run out mate 😉
No rim brake option? I’m out.
Indeed… will go with direct consumer compagnies who gave US the consumer the choice of a rim brake bike🤷🏼♂️
adapt with changing times or get left in the dust
I wonder if Giant will keep the current rim brake TCR in their line
Damn the update was so disappointing. I was really excited and hyped for a something new. At this point, I'd rather have the defy.
Hello there. This bike, or Canyon Ultimate? I have an old Giant TCR C2 but all the buddies say it's time. Oh and nice video BTW. Wish I could ride there. Thanks.
Nice bike, I got 100 miles in my Merida scultura endurance rival and I've had top bikes, and Iove the Merida , 2500 bargin 32 tyres for UK roads, you don't need these expensive bikes. End of
Test bike fitted with Dura Ace group set. Giant D-Fuse seatpost standard sucks….. hopefully the new TCR is not
wawawaoh! What a bike!
I think they are looking more twiggy than the previous generations. Would it be more fragile if knocked from the side? Would the fork withstand the powerful braking force from the disc brake? Especially with a heavier rider?
Do you have any idea if it worths upgrading to new Cadex max 40 system while currently using old Cadex 42mm wheels with 19.4mm rim width? I’m using 28mm tires. No comparison or info available between new max 40 and old 42. Thanks.
Any mention from Giant of a new Revolt?
Going to make a huge difference to average guy if bike is 7kg instead of 10,5kg. Im not extra fit but I blast past people on 5-10k€ bikes often. Dont spend on stuff you dont need, aka 30W saved at 40kmh dont matter if you go 24kmh. Just buy a comfy cheaper bike and 100liters of beer.
No mention of hookless wheels - shocking but not surprising....
Giant has been speccing hookless wheels for quite a few years now with no issues on any of the bikes I’ve tested
That may well be the case but you need to mention it so the average consumer is aware @@davidarthur
Corporate needs you to find the differences between this bike and the old TCR...
Ppl have been saying now all frames are now made in Taiwan regardless of what brand they are in the market today I believe they also produce good-quality frames more stiffer I believe I have an OEM Dogma F from Taiwan I already clocked 1k + 37 kmph till today No issue at all☝️🏻
Country side looks nice
Taiwan is stunning
Finally, giant hide the cables on tcr
Yes needs a one piece bar and stem
The fact that you don't mention the wheels are hookless is all we need to know.