NEW 2024 Giant TCR HONEST Opinion & Why It's Make Or Break For The Flagship Road Race Bike

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  • No rim brake options, new wheels, less weight, more integration and lots of models, we take a look at the latest 2024 Giant TCR including the 2024 Giant TCR Advanced SL, 2024 Giant TCR Advanced Pro and new Giant TCR Advanced road race bikes.
    Is this the best road bike in 2024 or will the new TCR fall into the Propel's shadow? This isn't a full Giant Propel vs TCR comparison but we do take a look at the changes, geometry, weight, aero claims, stiffness claims and interesting features of the new TCR.
    We also take a look at the new Cadex wheels and tyres that were released alongside the new road bike.
    What do you think of the 2024 Giant TCR? Let us know in the comments section below and we'll try and get one in for review asap!
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    ⚫️ In this video
    0:00 Introduction
    1:07 Weight
    2:51 New front end
    4:01 Aero
    4:50 Stiffness
    5:56 Compliance
    7:00 Geometry
    7:28 New Cadex wheels
    8:05 TCR range and prices
    9:30 Verdict
    10:11 Outro
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  • @roadcc
    @roadcc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What are you thoughts on the new TCR? We want to know what you think!

    • @yohanhoki
      @yohanhoki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can I use a hydraulic mechanical groupset? On new tcr SL type

    • @roadcc
      @roadcc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can indeed and the lowest tier bikes come with hydraulic mechanical 105

    • @GraemeRobertson-yu7gr
      @GraemeRobertson-yu7gr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s actually the 2025 model, 2024 is 9th gen

    • @SuchBigglesworthy
      @SuchBigglesworthy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm happy with this. Minor changes, but there wasn't anything standing out on the old model as needing to be improved other than hidden cables for aesthetic reasons. I love to ride in the hills and don't race, so the improved ride quality of the TCR matters more to me than the aero of the Propel (not to mention $$).

    • @nickdalamagas3540
      @nickdalamagas3540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One main reason I wouldn’t consider buying a Giant TCR or Propel are the cadex hookless rims & I currently ride a 2018 TCR

  • @bennyayaya
    @bennyayaya 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I have a (now) last-gen TCR. I love the thing. My vote is that they've haven't done enough to make me even think about upgrading, and I feel like the price went up at a time everyone's talking about bike prices falling. Glad I got the last-gen for that cheaper price.

  • @michaelwatters5600
    @michaelwatters5600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm happy with my leftover 2023 TCR PRO 0 that I got fot $3150 new, in a color I love.

  • @user-nt8dy4xw9r
    @user-nt8dy4xw9r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I’d like to see Giant providing colorful decal/color options for their bikes. Make them look like flamboyant team bikes!!

    • @roadcc
      @roadcc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We second this!

  • @PamMorris-oh3pf
    @PamMorris-oh3pf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It looks like Luke Plapp just finished second in the latest stage of Paris-Nice on the new TCR.

  • @lukewalker1051
    @lukewalker1051 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done on the review.

  • @korporalkarrot
    @korporalkarrot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    There was precious little "honest opinion" in this video. It was a Giant press release basically.

  • @tenspeedtears
    @tenspeedtears หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bikes like the TCR and Aethos make more sense for the majority of high speed recreational riders. The lighter weight of the frame allows you to get a light bike with mid and lower tier components. Rigid under power, compliant in the right areas and race geometry tick the right boxes imo. Riders need to make a good personal evaluation of the type of riding they do and the terrain they ride stop looking at what pros are riding.

  • @quintennn
    @quintennn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the TCR it's a cool bike, expensive but often cheaper than similar bikes.
    However I don't know if there's still a future for it.
    Especially in the pro peleton.
    It feels a bit like the specialized aethos. A lightweight bike for those that want it.
    The propel is now light and overall useable enough.
    Wouldn't it be easier for the pros to ride on the same bike all the time? Like the V4RS, Tarmac, Dogma F?
    I'm no pro so wouldn't know but I can imagine that I would prefer to ride on the exact same bike the entire time vs switching bikes around.

    • @roadcc
      @roadcc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, it’ll be a shame to see it go though if it does

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The TCR is cheaper than the Propel

  • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
    @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So they said the internal cables saved 4 watts. And said they saved more with the head tube and down tube and fork. And then the total watts saved are 2.3 for the normal bikes and 4.2 for the SL 0. heh.
    Good to see that the new wheels are a bit more wide. The older SLR wheels are very good wheels but they are a bit narrow (19mm internal and 25mm external).
    Personally I am happy to have bought the previous generation TCR at a good discount. I'd rather have external front cables even if they don't look as cool. A TCR doesn't look cool anyway.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wonder how many Watts you save by not riding your bike at all for three days because it needs to be completely disassembled for service since thanks to total integration you can't reach relevant components otherwise.

  • @dobry_czlowiek
    @dobry_czlowiek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it still massive 59,2 trail?

  • @adelsardinasmartinez5202
    @adelsardinasmartinez5202 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Giant says they have stock for send this new model immediately, but I am waiting for a 2020 TCR seatpost for 4 months now. 🙁

    • @Omeiden
      @Omeiden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Se happen to me, I had to wait 2 months for mine

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm waiting 2 months for a replacement fork for my '23 Giant Propel Advanced Pro

    • @zeuszuki6698
      @zeuszuki6698 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When I bought my Defy it had a wheel fault, Giant couldn't even provide a replacement so they supplied me a new pair of wheels from another brand !!!

  • @jayjam9106
    @jayjam9106 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seems nice but how do you get the seat height right? What if I want to change my seat height a year later? Seems crazy.

    • @dickieblench5001
      @dickieblench5001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The ISP has over 2cm of adjustment once cut. Use spacers down to 1 mm

  • @dustyburner
    @dustyburner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Giant might want to look at those seat tube length numbers

  • @tombola4046
    @tombola4046 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those Watt saving claims will make absolutely sweet FA difference to 90% of buyers, slightly less weight is good but my money would be on a now heavily discounted 23/24 model

  • @alicangul2603
    @alicangul2603 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SL model is lighter but what about the "PC" model?

  • @Jamess92
    @Jamess92 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder if the fork is compatible with the previous gen

    • @Pierrrrrrrrrrrrrrre
      @Pierrrrrrrrrrrrrrre 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd think they made sure it isn't...

  • @hermannk.1527
    @hermannk.1527 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is it possible to mount the new Stam on the old TCR?

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ... the new stem* (two typos in a four-letter word is quite an achievement😉). And no, you cannot.

  • @hobmarg
    @hobmarg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Mystery build" launching mid-May, aka new SRAM Red... nice to have confirmed date!

  • @mrcycling7007
    @mrcycling7007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks folks.

  • @robduncan599
    @robduncan599 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So according to 'frame geometry ' at 7.08 , a XS bike comes with you guessed it 170mm cranks ? Why o why do they expect people to pay thousands of £ on a extra small bike but put up with 170mm cranks ?

    • @zypang1447
      @zypang1447 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why do people buy race bikes made for pro cyclists as their hobby bike?

    • @robduncan599
      @robduncan599 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zypang1447 why do people buy anything? Because that's what they want . My question is still valid. Because a pro racer that needs a XS bike would still need XS cranks to match their XS bike .

    • @l.d.t.6327
      @l.d.t.6327 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zypang1447Because we're not all stupid to go full custom and pay premium?

  • @Bendersnatchling
    @Bendersnatchling 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The frameset price is actually not too bad.
    Like most things you will be able to get somewhere with 20% reduction.
    So it's around 3000€ for the frame set.
    The look blade 795 rs cost almost 5.000€...

  • @ArteUltra1195
    @ArteUltra1195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What is that pricing?
    13.800au$ is 8.200€, why are the Aussies getting it for so much less?

    • @richardggeorge
      @richardggeorge 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We are a third world country now 😂 🇦🇺

  • @benkent3388
    @benkent3388 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "it's this bike that made me fall" no more words were necessary

    • @roadcc
      @roadcc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t tell Jamie he can blame the bike for his continued falling off!

  • @l.d.t.6327
    @l.d.t.6327 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:21 "all of them fitted with 28mm tires" while showing a 25C on screen...

  • @s3cr3td00rindar00m
    @s3cr3td00rindar00m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    “Is good to see is not just the very top of the range we are tickling the UCI weight limit” dude that’s a circa 8 Kg bike have you lose your mind or maths?

    • @roadcc
      @roadcc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We meant the Ultegra advanced sl which we had in and is under 6.8kg despite having the second tier groupset and wheels, apologies for the confusion

    • @s3cr3td00rindar00m
      @s3cr3td00rindar00m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@roadcc oh yeah, that makes sense. Even the non ISP frameset with Ultegra could save a good 200 grs

  • @nickdalamagas3540
    @nickdalamagas3540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Was there a mention of the Cadex hookless rims .. unfortunately, a total turn off for me!

  • @ariffau
    @ariffau 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting price point for the frame set. The Pro-line sits in the realm of Time and Look frames. It’s also in the ballpark of Van Rysel’s RCR.

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seems like a crazy price. I paid $2800 for a FULL bike last year. (Pro Advanced - 105 mech - disc - SLR2 carbon wheels). I think they don't really care about selling many individual framesets.

  • @tekesbur
    @tekesbur 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I own a 2019 Adv Pro 0 and had a chance to test ride SL7 Pro, which felt very sluggish compared to my TCR.
    TCR is very fun to ride bike, especially if you are fit. Already planning to buy an SL frameset as the Tarmac SL8 is way too ugly for my eyes.

  • @purpleaki7135
    @purpleaki7135 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I still ride my 2018 TCR and while I will continue with Giant they just aren't as sexy as competing brands. How many fake TCR's out there compared to F12, Tarmac and Madone.

  • @gemakar1
    @gemakar1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    12.500 euros for a bike ?I ll propably still live with my rim brakes!

    • @henrikh484
      @henrikh484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheapskate 😂🎉

    • @MrVizzle
      @MrVizzle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Think 12.50 is cheap, do not think you can find something second hand cheaper.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep what you have if you want. But they have cheaper versions. I know I have multiple rim brake bikes that were $10-14k and there are very few $5000 disc brake bikes that aren't far better than my rim brake bikes that cost over double to triple the price. It's even worse taking inflation into account

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@MrVizzle know of any good used bikes under 12 euros?

    • @MrVizzle
      @MrVizzle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@veganpotterthevegan nah, good price for TCR, 12e better buy new one

  • @Sutlore007
    @Sutlore007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They should have provided more tire clearace, at least 35mm. That would be more interesting.

    • @petersouthernboy6327
      @petersouthernboy6327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      33 is the UCI limit
      It’s a race bike.

    • @Sutlore007
      @Sutlore007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@petersouthernboy6327 Oh, that is unfortunate for us who need very stiff 2 in 1 bike. I may lean toward the new Defy then. Thanks

    • @petersouthernboy6327
      @petersouthernboy6327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Sutlore007 I have an eye on the Defy myself 👌. Love it. Waiting for the Advanced Pro Frameset to become available

    • @dobry_czlowiek
      @dobry_czlowiek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many 35c tyres are narrower in reality, especially on classic 19mm road rims.

    • @petersouthernboy6327
      @petersouthernboy6327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dobry_czlowiek good point. depends on the brand, too.

  • @Gregory_tottie
    @Gregory_tottie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just slipped the term “hookless” in there like no one would notice.

  • @PeterPutz82
    @PeterPutz82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If I wanted to hear Giant marketing spiel I would go to their website. Stop wasting my time.

  • @Omeiden
    @Omeiden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Why this price?! I paid half for the EXACTLY the same bike back in 2018

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      No you didn't. That bike was the '2018' version. This is the '2024 version' 🤦

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@out_spocken Right. 2018 was 2 generations previous in the TCR line. That said - the differences are fairly small

    • @pierremaggi8661
      @pierremaggi8661 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      No but you see this one has hookless wheels, so it is cheaper to manufacture, so the price is higher

    • @yukiko_5051
      @yukiko_5051 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The demand are higher while they purposely limited the supply

    • @Klont123
      @Klont123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have a time travel DIY link? Im not good with this. 😢

  • @jauxed
    @jauxed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nowadays it's light and aero...Propel ftw!

  • @davidnicholson6680
    @davidnicholson6680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is zero reason to buy this over the Propel that I can see.

    • @roadcc
      @roadcc  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Supposedly the pros will choose it for the classics because of the extra compliance, we'll have to give it a ride before we can comment on that though!

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      price.

  • @el_carbonara
    @el_carbonara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    still an absolute rip off for what it is. How companies can sell a bike for this much is criminal and really urge no one to buy a new bike to stop this sickening criminal behaviour that no human should have to endure.

  • @trroland1248
    @trroland1248 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You had me until, “…hookless.” 🤕

  • @evanjohn503
    @evanjohn503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the attitude that you and most other so called 'cycling influencer s ' bang on about cableless this, cableless that. Do you really think I would expect a cableless bike for my budget of 1,500 quid? Its just like tubeless nonsense. MAKE bikes for the USER NOT just the bloody racer (I've got TCR ADV and a TCR ADV pro 2 - and NO I will not be updating? (as this just shows its gone down to marketing gimmicks rather than any real adv's) either of them

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I strongly prefer external cables at the front. The internal cables are mostly just an aesthetic thing and the performance improvement only matters for a VERY VERY small portion of riders. But tubeless tires are actually good and have significant and real benefits for normal people. You can use lower pressure and the ride is noticeably more smooth and comfortable. Flats become very infrequent though IMO that's only a side benefit or none because if you do get a flat it's more of an annoyance.
      For the normal tire installation they are NOT difficult to deal with. For those on tight budgets tubeless could be annoying because there aren't a wide selection of cheap tires like there are clinchers

    • @timdixo
      @timdixo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true but the shills love pushing this integration cancer. “2 watts faster at 80kmh” at the price of fit adjustability…insane.

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy6327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Giant US website has a TCR Advanced Pro Frameset for $2100. If that’s too expensive for someone - then do better for yourself.

  • @harrybbbb
    @harrybbbb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    More marketing bullshit.

  • @andreortizdecarvalho
    @andreortizdecarvalho 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is not a honest opinion, it's just BS merchandising. For getting this type of content I can go to Giant website.

  • @einundsiebenziger5488
    @einundsiebenziger5488 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What personality disorder drives the Giant designers? On the one hand, they stick with an integrated seapost, a design that was abandoned by the rest of the bike industry 15 years ago, due to impracticality, on the other they do not use one-piece bar-stems because of their impracticality. And finally stop saying "x Watts faster"! Watt is a unit to measure power, not speed!

    • @roadcc
      @roadcc  หลายเดือนก่อน

      you have to say X Watts Faster, it's the law 😂

  • @mohamadjamil3164
    @mohamadjamil3164 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It does not look good

  • @zypang1447
    @zypang1447 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do people actually get excited to buy $5,000 bike that was designed for 20 year old anorexic pros?

  • @andrewwoffinden8671
    @andrewwoffinden8671 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hookless wheels, no thanks.

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I use to love Giant... but how can you love a company that perpetuates a scam and shows their greed. Cadex going all-in on hookless rims turned me away. Also, Giant branded tires are absolute rubbish. The bead separated and the tire popped off my rim in the middle of a ride. I can't respect a company that makes rubbish, even if it is their lower tier product.

  • @user-dragonball-i4y
    @user-dragonball-i4y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Using New Cadex Race One piece handle bar…/only 256 g ) will be looking much much beautiful❤🎉 than current one🙃🥹😎

  • @bicikircho
    @bicikircho 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Literally the Same Bike.

    • @lukewalker1051
      @lukewalker1051 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Translation is...they didn't ruin it. TCR has been the best road bike for the money in the industry for 20 years.

    • @waynehiggins899
      @waynehiggins899 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's because you can't really do much to it because it's perfect

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lukewalker1051 they could completely revise the tube shapes - especially the oddly shaped downtube. But then the bike would basically be a propel.

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy6327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Giant US website has a TCR Advanced Pro Frameset for $2100. If that’s too expensive for someone - then do better for yourself.