Under 2000 Class with GM Ben Finegold
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- GM Ben Finegold goes over a game from the CCSCATL Action Open and several puzzles to the Under 2000 class. This lecture was recorded on Oct. 1, 2017 at CCSCATL in Roswell, Georgia.
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Intro and concluding music: “Da Jazz Blues,” by Doug Maxwell; • Da Jazz Blues - Doug M... . Thank you Doug!
"Whenever my opponent does something, that mean whatever they did makes their position not what it was."
-Finegold 2018
Sounds like a finegold class
"See, he was there, playing good chess, so I robbed his house"
Law of zugzwang
Truer words have never been spoken.
"One of my wives - can't remember which one"
Classic Finegold.
Videos of the more advanced classes remind you that Ben can actually give very good advice and that he is a really good teacher.
But people will still watch the kids videos more for the jokes and the puns.
The truth hurts!
wdym? He is funny enough here too. I laughed and learned
guilty as charged
He doesn't do many higher level videos or more people would watch them.
I watch his videos because he's funny, but then I realize he's making fun of people who are bad at chess like me, and I'm just like my guy I just want to learn some chess. Still it's entertaining and instructional if you can deal with being made fun of.
@@siLence-84 LOL, lefty got triggered.
10:29 "That's a very juicy square for my knight"
Kid: *schlurp*
How do you choreograph your jokes so well?
When he called 1700 low rated, it hurt.
Fide rated 1700 to be precise.
truth hurts
I'm 1200 so technically I'm under 2000
What a coincidence I'm also under 2000, 500 here
I vsed an insanely strong 500 today in a tournament. I've always thought 500s just didn't know the rules but damn
Allirix 500s play like 1000s, except they are liable to make horrendous blunders at any time. I know because I used to be a 500 (now I’m the best player ever because I’m a 750).
@@jarretberenson1214 hey, identity theft is a crime
the boss man ?
I've watched probably most if not the vast majority of Grandmaster Ben Finegold's video's, this is probably the most instructive one I've seen.
Also one of the funniest.
I can tell you havent watched many lol. The "vast majority" are instructive. But if the info goes over your head ....... 🥴
@@Jhoto he didn't say the other ones weren't instructive he just said this one was especially useful for him. But if you can't read comments... 🙃
Sometimes I read a comment and I'm like damn. Must suck to be that guy. Not only is he stupid he has so much hubris. That's what I thought when I read your comment.
Does he have any other under 2000 lesson?
@@Jhoto rude
I've watched A LOT of his lectures and I think this is BY FAR the best one. It offers some real insight into how stronger and weaker players think.
that kid answering the questions is pretty good
He is well on his way, got all the answers before the older guys
Anybody here knows who the kid is? It is better for him now to manage his own content in TH-cam. Dollar.. dollar.. ;)
--Always makes fun of videos for being published 5 weeks after the lecture
--Lecture from 10/1/2017
So many weeks ago I can't count that high
@@kmarasin That sounds like something Ben Finegold might say
The lecture was recorded before I was born
Except for maybe 'you at home'. Why weren't you at the lecture 'you at home'? How come?
That 1700 guy played really well. He has to be higher by now.
You can look him up on USCF he's 1800
@@radar9561 lol us ranking
Are you any good at chess?
@@siLence-84 what's your profile pic from?
Where am I?
So glad i found this channel. Ive been almost obsessed with the game of chess the past couple of months
Great analysis. Great explanation of psychological aspects. Grandmaster Finegold is the best chess teacher.
Yes, this was a fantastic lecture for me as a class B soon to be A player.
I don't believe in psychology. I just believe in good moves. - Bobby Fischer
warrenginmartini dumb quote to be honest
This might be the best explanation you've ever made...I am in awe.
I was all excited because I solved the puzzle, and then I remembered I've seen this video before.
"You can't beat me by taking hung pieces" My dreams are ruined XD.
That's my favorite way to beat people. My second favorite is my opponent walking into a one move tactic.
@@12jswilson My favorite is walking into a one move tactic to mate them a few turns later
25:26 "they're from New York so they're already not too bright" 😭😂
Priceless.
Wow that last puzzle (Finegold's favourite) was insanely amazing!! Shows how great chess can be. 57:45
@Billy Farrington Right, it's strange Ben didn't mention this variation.
Billy Farrington thats mate in 5, so it doesn’t work
Joran De Braekeleer watch it again, 1:01:47
@@noobmasteryoyo5136 Yeah you're right, thnx for the correction!
This one was especially terrific.
"You guys arent playing GM's in tournaments your playing Rufus and Dufus"
this is some seriously incredible teaching. prob the single best chess video for beginner/intermediate players Ive ever watched! holy crap, ben.
I like the fact that he jokes
One of Ben's best lectures. Enjoying it for the 2nd time.
I miss the classroom lectures with GM Ben. :(
"I wanna win with little risk, but when I'm black, you gotta take some risk."
-GM Ben Finegold
I don't have a chess rating, but I did solve the puzzle at 48:20 (pausing the video for about 7 minutes). I do have a go rating over 2000.
cocaine is a helluva drug, Mr. Sniffles. ;)
Okay, that was a low blow, Mr. Finegold...your youtube vids have drawn me back to playing chess again and you are one of the most important reasons why people get into it. Thank you for that...you have made me find joy in something again.
"...so if I'm black, then the lower opponent might draw. But if I make the game really interesting, and they play really well...that's not possible. Why is their rating so low if they're playing so well?"
You're such a dick...but you are SO relatable to the average player. Thank you for that...because it's hysterical while teaching us what we never knew.
sorry if I just double posted
Is there fund raiser for Ken West moving to Atlanta? I would donate to it.
no he wont
"Don't be a debil" lmao great advice
Yes bring Ken West to atl
I love that he is so rea here, in the higher rated class.
1:01:34 mate in 2 1.bc7-k7 2.b7
Ka8
20:02 what sort of plan is this? NEVER PLAY F6
1. White doesn't have a light squared bishop
2. Open the file!
3. The Dutch like to take it one step further with f5, regardless of bishops.
Sicarius Noctis he is somewhat ok with f5, but he almost always attacks people for playing f6 lol
I played the number one rated player in austria, a few months ago in a simul. After all the games ended, we got to ask him questions about the games we played and whatnot. In the game I got completely crushed in a sicilian as black. He didn't even develop half his minor pieces and just steamrolled me with his pawns on the kingside. So I asked him how it comes that a lot of top rated players don't always develop all their pieces as fast as possible and still crush everyone. His answer was that to every general rule in chess there are exceptions and better players just find those exceptions more often. So I guess there's that.
you a chest master too?
@@GoDbax if you mean me, no I'm not. I'm rated somewhere between 1700 and 1800.
”You with a comment that doesnt make sense” 😂
Ben you are a great teacher and a good guy and your barbed wit is part of the fun
I like all your videos and are very good at improving lower graded players
I am one of those lower graded players and am improving and winning more games drawing more but rare losss
Patience is everything which works for lower levels don't panic and attack mindlessly
It works !!!
I plugged the last problem into an engine analysis, and it gave me a solution where white castles, lmao.
"He's here, which means he's not home, so I robbed his house"
These puzzles were mindblowing, raaaaawr! Nice ones!
19:30 on - I would play Bc5 with the idea to exchange it with the Kt on d4. White takes Bishop with Bishop(e3) and not Kt (b5) because of b2 (the reason why the Kt is on b5). But if the Bishop (e3) moves then it vacates the d2 square for the black Kt(e4) to fork the Queen and Rook. Of course, White can reply Bc5 with c3. Disclaimer: I have started playing after a very long break and not rated at all. Thanks for sharing. Lot of learning and entertainment.
A fine video.
GM Finegold didn't remark on it but his opponent was rated somewhere in the 1700's and he is better than that. White understood the position well and made lots of sensible moves.
It took a fair while for GM Finegold to get on top.
suspicious nose problems
coca cola
Everything you just wrote = very suspicious.
Not that suspicious, just a side effect of him using cocaine
The truth hurts
Yayo, yayo, all I know is yayo
the best teacher ever!!!! wish you could come to India to teach
The knights and rook vs king and pawn endgame is a forced mate in 5 even if you play Nd5. You don't have to stop c1=N. For example,
1. Nd5, c3
2. Ke2, c2
3. Ne7, c1=N+
4. Kd1, Na2
5. Ng6#.
The line Nb1 is a quicker mate but only by 1 ply.
I like those lessens ... GM Ben you are amazing
One day this will reach 1 million veiws. Great vid !
Ha, I got that hard puzzle by logic. I figured we have to force him to promote a way of our choosing which implies we need to create a capture promotion and take away the forward promotion.
Then it all fell into place. Nb1 takes away stalemate and creates a capture promotion. Ke2 runs to where promotion won’t be check. Rc1 blocks and creates mate when he promotes.
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18:23 New engines say E3 is the best move, with Rd1 a close second.
i take the simple lesson here look after what is defended and what is not in every move . if i can do that in every move i think i will be a much better player
Plus, look what squares a move takes, and what squares it gives.
Doesn't help playing against Fritz 10, though. That program is relentless and I get crushed even though I tried to adjust the rating, lol.
Thank you, that you first thought about the rg1 idea as that of ocean's, cause I solved it just because of that
Can u do an under 1000 class :-)))
Did one of the people in the class say "take with the horse"?? Terrible
stephen0793 Because it is a horse.
It's called a horse in some other languages
It's a caballo in spanish, not a caballero
here in Mexico we say "caballo" to that piece
In Arabic we call it (Hissan) which means horse
Excellent lecturer
Couldn't watch the video because all I saw was Ben's blinding t-shirt. Gaaaaah so bright!
Terrible!
Then get some eye drops, I dunno! Or lower your monitor's brightness. I have a shirt in that colour too.
Rawr! My shirt is bright
For the last puzzle, I found a solution very quickly, which was different from the one you offered. In fact, I saw several solutions with different knight moves. Didn't understand why the puzzle was supposed to be so hard.
Then I realized mine was mate in 5, not mate in 4. Oops.
Same
There is a different mate in 2 @ 1:01:30 which would also make a second mate in 4 for the original version. Bishop C7, opening the A7 square for the King. That's the only move for black. Then Pawn B6 checkmate.
Pawn b6 would only be check. The King would move to a8
senior year of high school we had a middle aged guy who thought his rating was 782. rest of my friends and I were beginners and we were all 1580+. he came off a 3/5 win tourney vs. higher rated players but next month's chess life had him at 782 again. guy had a master's degree in chemistry. finally the prez of our club had mercy on him, "Ray, that's the expiration date of your USCF membership."
Ben should make a Stetler and Waldorf joke (you know, the Muppet characters that hang out on the balcony and heckle people).
(I say completely preemptively before watching the whole video. . . Maybe he _does_ make such a joke. . . )
very excoting and instructive thank you Ben! ;)
Love these puzzles. Rawrrr!
GO BEN
This video makes me want to move to Atlanta just so Ben can teach me
25:26 Hahaha this guy is hilarious. Great job Ben 👍
@ 1:01:29 isn't there another mate in 2? Bishop C7, King A7 is the only move for black after that. Then Pawn B6 is checkmate.
I think that it's mate in 3. After what you have played, King goes A8 and then Pawn B7, checkmate.
King back to a7
Yes but at the 11:55 position, the check’s golden rules says that before any move first search is to search at a possible check position and if it is possible make a check as Qg6+.
Qb6+ désolé
On Ben's favorite puzzle at 1:00:00, for white's third move to release black from potential stalemate, could you move bishop to C7, freeing the black king to move to A7 follow by knight c6 mate? If that doesn't work could someone please explain why
You are right, that does work.
@@MrCheeze king goes back to A8 I think so it's not mate, I goofed it :/
@@elizabethbaze1072 whoops lol even thinking that there must be a mistake I wasn't able to see that and figured it must work
been watching for a few months and risen from 1000 to 1200 points I blame ben
Best chess lecture ever. The truth hurts!
knight castle checkmate is my guess on that hardest puzzle. writing it down before u give answer for self glory or self ridicule
How old is Ocean? 11? 12? 13? 8? Please answer with a full sentence and apostrophe
Ocean is ' years old.
I did find bishop c5 as an unranked casual player feelsgoodman
Ben is sniffin' white between classes.
These are terrific. Merci.
Or you can play 1.h7 Kg7 2.ph8=Qh8+ Kg6 3.Rh5 Kf7 4.Ne4 Ke6 5.Qf6+ Kd7 6.Rh7+ Kc8 or Kd8 8.Qh8+mate or if 2. ... Kf7 3.Rh5 Ke6 4.Ne4 Kd7 5.Qf6 then 6.Rh7 and 7.Qh8+mate again
20:11 Ke4-d2 is mush better move
you get free tower roww
In the puzzle I saw mate in 5!
1 Nce4
1 c3
2 Ke2
2 c2
3 Ng5
3 c1=N+
4 Kf3
4 Ne2 (Nd3(Nb3(Na2))) {doesn't matter where the black knight goes...)
5 Nf7#
:D
I thought I solved the puzzle like that, because I didn't saw black can promote to a knight with check and survive 1 move longer.
Dude that final puzzle is intense
Im around 1600. This lesson is powerful! Thanks Ben!!
How can I know my rating? is it accurate to chess.com?
Eugenio Campos more or less, but yes
Very much enjoyed this. I have a question for you - when you say you can solve these puzzles, do you mean in your head, just looking at the position/screen? I'm pretty good at chess puzzles but only by setting up the position on a board and moving the pieces around a bit. I mean this was once obviously the accepted way of solving puzzles, say mates in 2 or 3. But does it really count?
26:28 ..Qxa4. If Rxa4, Rxf1, Bg1 Kf2++
Instead of Bc5 in that critical position you really took time with, was Qxa4 an idea? I don't see a reason that pawn isn't just hanging since any attempt to recapture with the rook gets White mated. Trading down the f-file doesn't change anything either. I'm probably just missing something, but I figured I'd ask. Thanks for sharing these lectures with us btw.
@plectrumura 2 years later but I saw this aswell and I think it works.
I’m 2006 uscf, can I still watch?
the last puzzle was the only one I solved on my own
When I play black in the dragon or Najdorf Im always shocked by how often my opponent short castles, at my level people dont seem to understand they should be long castling and trying to attack me. I actually end up long castling more often than my opponents...
Does he have any other under 2000 lesson?
28:05 now I know why my rating is so low :(
What if after: c1=N+ Kf1 and he has to move he's night somewhere, then you can deliver your mate on g6 or f7 ? Because it's not stalemate anymore, the night is there.
As a 1700, seeing Bc5 almost instantly felt good
At what point does Ben stop using the "under #### class" notation? Like if he is having a conversation with Magnus Carlsen is that the "under 3,000 class"?
24:08 Why are you breaking pens?
1:03:01 What if white's 3. move is Bc7 and the 4. Nc6?
Amazing !
at 30:35 wouldn't ke2 be a checkmate?
King to E2...? Its not a legal move.
f2 is check but the knight blocks the bishop allowing the king to move to G1
Yeah I got no idea what the me from 2 years ago was thinking :/
This guy Ben sarcasm is killer lol
In the puzzle at 53:00, isn't it more simple and perhaps elegant to give mate with knight, by first moving the C file knight away to D5, putting king on E2 and simply letting pawn queen? If the pawn gives check by knighting, so what and neither a bishop or rook would threaten white's knights.
You see, the problem isnt that you must checkmate, which is trivial, the problem is that you mate in 4.
@@thomy2562 well thats a little prescriptive
Literally just had a guy play Nc3 to E2 giving me d5 in my sicilian lol
Why wouldn't sacrifice the knight h7 work
At 30:30 - Rook to F2 is mate.
No. It's check but the knight blocks the bishop allowing the king to move to G1
Are the Stadter brothers from the heartland?
22:07 " And there was a domino effect, which isn't good cause we're playing chess" god bless him
the day orf is a good reply to the night orf
55:38 - What was wrong with rook G1? Still checkmate! I know black can promote to a knight with a check, but it doesn't stop checkmate
You need to find the fastest mate.
@@schuller623 It might not be fast but it was simplest to me. I'm not GM material 🙄
@@DomDeDom it is a chess puzzle for finding mate in 4. In an actual game sure you can do whatever is easiest to you. But in order to solve the puzzle you need to do what it suggests.
26:50 Checkmate? Queen takes on A4 if white recaptures rook takes F1 and then knight F2 next move.
You lose your queen like that, because bishop interposes the rook.
1:00:00 TEN legal moves ?????????? I can not see any more than four (b1, bxc1, Rb1,and Rxc1). May be the b1 and bxc1 promoting to diff pieces are different moves. So they are 4 each. That would make it 10.
10:50 relatable