Lol.. I just scrap from raid 10 time only got pyromaniacs.. Got learn.. But not worth it... I rather get mod, craft these mod so expensive, waste of modules
I tend to agree. That skin is so good. Someone spent a lot of time making that. It's a shame for it to never get used. It's the same with all of the weapons, really. None of them are any good except the sword.
They missed out on making the fire green. And making it do poison damage with that venom 4 star. That would be an awesome chase item for the raid. Most unique wep in the game
Whoever is in charge of making unique weapons for 76 only does a good job once in 10. That laser chainsaw being basically textless is real sad. Every weapon other than the grenade launcher us pretty bad, and if I'm honest, launchers aren't good, and cc doesn't matter against most mobs. Can't use any CC in the raid, where you'd actually need and want to use it.
They should make those additional effect stronger. -5 durability and +25 poison resist is not enough to justify using this weapon. Same with almost every unique weapon in that raid(Resolve Breaker is imo exception). Another option would be legendary crafting for those uniques.
As an unarmed man, the drill fist may be marginally worse than the gauntlet, but I don't play unarmed for an easy time. Personally, I'd swap the two star with heavy hitters, limb damage isn't great for a fist.
Could you do an updated comparison between Anti Armor, Bloodied and Vampires on Fast Firing weapons? I’m curious how much of a difference there is between AA and Bloodied, then how far behind those 2 effects Vampires is and if the Survivability of Vampires is worth the loss of DPS.
Not related to the video. I was wondering if you've heard about a bug involving thirst quencher? Apparently it grants AP regen while your taking radiation dmg. And it works with spamming consumables too is what I understand. The demonstration i saw made dirty work work like coffee for ap regen. If you already know sorry for taking up space.
I’ve been wondering why this has been happening to me. Couldn’t replicate it but wow-when it kicks off-I’m taking off half the turrets shield in one vats burst. It’s crazy Edit. I was spamming coffee stacks in the turret fight, it wasn’t consistent-seemed like I had to be near my teammate but idk. Swapped out my AA for a Quad plasma and just went ham
😡🐢agreed it would've been better if the flame was green. Thank you for testing against Holy Fire. I also made my Holy Fire AA 4*, so after seeing the results it will stay as my go to weapon 😊
I think when your trying to showcase stuff you should really pop some berry mentats so your not running around looking for enemies. They get that sweet highlight to help you find them easier.
My Heavy Gunner has a collection of Heavy Weapons in his camp. But only problem with me NOT putting this in a display. I cannot change the last star to lightweight. So scrap it everytime I get one.
So whats the best way to start going to ideal rolled weapons? Theres the scrip vendor for random rolls, do I do that? do I buy Modules and rng eoll each star when crafting? Whats the best way to spent my mats?
Does anyone ever bash with a weapon like this? And does it even make sense to try? So have they fixed the problem of the special nozzles decreasing the range to melee while increasing the damage yet? Or is it still unsafe do?
Does the auto axe stagger the mole miner in the raids as well as the shredder does Looking to swap to auto axe as I already carry it and didn’t know if it will do the same job as the shredder Thank you for all your videos and testing love your channel
Turtle, I just got the loose box mod "Pyromaniacs's". I slapped it on my holy fire and it hooooo boyyy. My Holy fire is now this: Anti-Armor, Rapid, Durabale, Pyromaniacs! To be honest, I am not overwhelmed by any of the new unique weapons. I am just farming the first boss (using a lot of your suggestions, thank you for that!)
Hmmm on my main I sided with Settlers and I have Mortimer and Jez. Cant remember when he unlocked though. I am Ally with both so you should get him unlocked….soonish. Try the fallout wiki or google.
My main issues with the Boiling Point: #1: The second star effect. Why not give it something like Hitman's to boost the damage while aiming? (I'm aware the sights are abysmal, but it could make players wanna use third person aiming more with it) #2: The standard orange flame. I agree with Turtle, the Boiling Point absolutely should shoot green flame. That'd make it much more unique. #3: Poison resist instead of poison damage. That simply just makes no sense to me. A poison flamer would be interesting (as long as they don't make it like the Acid Soaker from Fallout 4. That gun was terrible.) Overall, I still like the Boiling Point and I may actually use it from time to time once I learn the plan to craft it. Solid 7/10 weapon IMO.
Now how much cooler and mote interesting and more worth grind would be if it was 'flamer' with all mods and properties of flamer but instead of fire damage would it deal poison damage, we have no really many poison weapons
I was recently using Holy Fire, and it was a blast, but I couldnt keep up with Fuel. it just goes through so much. So back to NA Rifles I went. Its still my favorite playstyle. Really need to get a better rolled Plasma Caster, as I enjoy that too, but I have Two Shot and its not that good.
@@lexeleister4618 I definitely dont have a build that would hold up in Raids. I cant even solo Daily Ops (in under 8 minutes). I'm not min/maxxed for weapons or armor lol.
I’ve always thought they needed to let the unique weapon skins be attainable or unlockable, could help keep players engaged to have to grind for it lol
Crafted 30 of them and unlocked pyro on the first try lol. Did the same with the Ultracite Terror (first scrap). Meanwhile, I’ve scrapped close to 400 food weight reduction armors and no Thru Hiker. RNG
The takeaway is that it IS usable. It just cant compare to a (semi) perfectly crafted Flamer in the same tier. I feel like thats overall fair. Your crafted perfect weapon SHOULD be superior to a pre rolled weapon.
Granted, I don't do Raids, and likely never will, (if this is tradeable), it'll be easier to get with its 4* than crafting a god rolled Holy Fire. I likely won't get any 4* weapon any time soon though. tradeable or otherwise.
@hoofhearted4 As far as I'm aware no Raid weapon can be dropped, sold or traded nor can any of said plans from the raids. Outside of the 1-4* box mods.
Got the plan for the Boiling Point, crafted 10 to scrap them for the legendary mods. Got two Pyromaniacs mods and learned the plan from those 10. Feel like ive already used all of my RNG luck for the entire of 2025 😂
I agree that the skins for this weapon are good, as are the previous flamingo skins, but the Holy Fire can't use these skins, which is very unfortunate.
They need to fix this weapon! Green fire would be great but they need to up the damage to outmatch the holy fire by at least 5 points of damage. Seriously ridiculous to go through an entire raid and get a flamethrower worse than what you already own
7:16 did you just say that you can’t extract the fourth star? I can craft the bullies mod, because I crafted a bunch of the weapons from the raid and then scrap them. And you can 100% learn the pyromaniacs mode the same way They are just expensive as how to make in the game And if you like gaming down your sites, boiling point is a weapon they never thought of looking down the sites
There is an invincible mole miner that kills you in one hit if it gets close enough, the only way to damage the creatures at that stage is to lure them to the crystals and then destroy said crystals, there will be an explosion effect that will damage the creatures that be close
Guys the strat for the new boss, try to get the reflective 4 stars for power armor and make a ricochet build, have the sentry just keep shooting you and it disables the shield like in 10 seconds, then switch to auto axe with furiousxrapidxpounders= at least 1600 damage per tick the bot dies in like 5 seconds, total boss time is about 2ish minutes and I ran it like 16 times with some people yesterday and they were just jumping into the electric grid so the robot targets me and I can just speed run rewards for them
Love my holy fire and been using it since it first came out. Now with Pyromaniacs on, I love it even more but yes, I wish there were some skins for it and you could change the flame colour like you can on the Cremator. Boiling point is pretty much a disappointment for me as is most of the other new weapons even though it looks sooooo awesome.
Great review as always...for me cosmetics are irrelevant...great note on pyromaniac and std barrels...will be scrapping boiling points and upgrading my Holy Fire having dropped 4 pyromaniacs
you know what i hate about this game i learned the plan for calibrated shocks for fulcan pa but problem is its not on the characters i want it to be 😂 just wish i was that lucky on my main character
I disagree on being able to change named gear. There are reasons why they can't be changed. Unique weapons have their look and effects to make them stand out from the rest. They don't have to be the best. The "hidden" effects also make it unique. If you could strip everything from it and "learn" it then it's not unique or special. It's not always about damage numbers.
This. Uniques don't need to be good, they're mostly for flavor. Sometimes they happen to be good, and thats great. But really, a crafted weapon, especially god rolled, should be better than a unique. Imagine if you spent all the time to get the perfect weapon and all the legendaries, and a unique comes out that drops better than that weapon. That would feel awful.
Seems like all the unique ones suck even holy fire does less damage than vampire flamer. Unique chainsaw cant use dual bar, flamer mod or be 2star modified for heavy hitter 40% power attack.
Ngl, they need to add an option to buy caps, are have events where we can significantly earn more caps. Events need to start rewarding 20k caps. Because im not having luck getting mod boxes. Since that last update where they introduced that mechanic, ive scrapped probably over 300 legendary items and got 6 learned plans out of it. Now player vendors are selling mod boxes and they can be highly expensive. Especially now since 4 stars are introduced. We need more caps. Introduced a way to buy caps, or have events start rewarding 20k caps per event.
Boiling Point should have been a Venom thrower. Have it spew highly poisonous substance over targets for high dots.
@@SpikeyPancake Also chance to make bio enemies vomit.
Would've been sick
@@beastabuelos6421
Given how damage and armor have been reworked the chance of this would be low.
It's a stun if anything.
@@UnfilteredMedic Do you REALLY want them to try to add more animations and effects to enemies when they can barely keep the game running as is?
@@BabbyGuavaandfriends
Sounds like a your PC problem.
Many of us have no problem playing it even with the "features" that are part of it.
When scrapping weapons and armor with unique skins there should be a chance to learn the skin plan.
The regular flamer is the best flamer in the game simply because it can be equipped with the Flame-ingo skin.
I do not understand why bought flamer skins are not working on HF and BP same with GL and UGL.
@@PensFan35 Gaudy as Southern white trailer trash. Pass
Yeah, I was disappointed the flame wasn't green as well.
I slapped a Pyro 4th star on to my stock Holy Fire and it's just so much better than the Boiling Point.
I did the same thing. It's fantastic. I'm going to use it to kill the end raid boss next time I go through.
same here! as if it wasn't already OP🤣
@@TokenLegionGamingfrom what I had read. Holy Fire was nerfed. Pyros restores its potential.
@@SpikeyPancake yeah, damage was lowered and DoT increased, which kinda worked out with the pyro 4 star. Still the best flamer you can use always
@@SpikeyPancakeSame with Cremator
What's bethesda's obsession with the furious prefix? Lol it's on so many of the unique weapons.
Well it's decent... not as shitty as Nocturnal, not as good as AA. But why give it bash damage??
@@shastasir9715 maybe to go with the spikes on the bottom of the weapon?
@@shastasir9715that it’s “biting”
Best unique weapon in the base game of fallout 4 was the furious power fist
@@pyrosapien4028The Overseers guardian was pretty good but so was the Splattercannon that was a handmade that also had the Furious effect
I just crafted 300 of these (yes, I spent 600 modules) to try and learn pyromaniacs.
No, I did not learn pyromaniacs. 😊
Did it say you could get a module/plan when scrapping? It does display this after the update.
Do you know what's worse? Crafting 100 flat liners to learn conductors and get it first go! 😀😀
@@MarkJThompson 💀💀💀
@@Xorgye yeah, I’m just very unlucky
Lol.. I just scrap from raid 10 time only got pyromaniacs.. Got learn.. But not worth it... I rather get mod, craft these mod so expensive, waste of modules
YES SHOULD BE GREEN!
BP plans should be paired with a craftable skin. HF should be skinnable.
I tend to agree. That skin is so good. Someone spent a lot of time making that. It's a shame for it to never get used. It's the same with all of the weapons, really. None of them are any good except the sword.
They missed out on making the fire green. And making it do poison damage with that venom 4 star. That would be an awesome chase item for the raid. Most unique wep in the game
I wish you could scrap legendary box mods and get modules in return, have so many stacked up from the raids
Sell them for caps but more legendarys and scrip them it's a longer process but it can be done
Buy*
Instead of less durability, bashing should set enemies on fire. Give a reason to have the Basher’s 2-star effect.
It sounds like adding pyro to a cremator would be incredible.
I freaking LOVE how good the flamer + unique variants are. need to slap that burning damage four star on my holy fire
Making Bash Damage an unchangeable mod is insulting. Your 4 star Holy Fire is a thing of beauty.
It seems like the raid weapons all have 1 useless/wasted legendary, and it’s disappointing.
Whoever is in charge of making unique weapons for 76 only does a good job once in 10.
That laser chainsaw being basically textless is real sad. Every weapon other than the grenade launcher us pretty bad, and if I'm honest, launchers aren't good, and cc doesn't matter against most mobs. Can't use any CC in the raid, where you'd actually need and want to use it.
They should make those additional effect stronger. -5 durability and +25 poison resist is not enough to justify using this weapon. Same with almost every unique weapon in that raid(Resolve Breaker is imo exception). Another option would be legendary crafting for those uniques.
As an unarmed man, the drill fist may be marginally worse than the gauntlet, but I don't play unarmed for an easy time. Personally, I'd swap the two star with heavy hitters, limb damage isn't great for a fist.
Furious really needs a higher cap, it needs to match it exceed bloodied.
It is a good thing you can learn swift too from scrapping Boiling Point.
Could you do an updated comparison between Anti Armor, Bloodied and Vampires on Fast Firing weapons?
I’m curious how much of a difference there is between AA and Bloodied, then how far behind those 2 effects Vampires is and if the Survivability of Vampires is worth the loss of DPS.
Hello mister Turtle,
Question about the flamer tank: why you have choosen "Large Tank" over "Huge Tank"?
Not related to the video. I was wondering if you've heard about a bug involving thirst quencher? Apparently it grants AP regen while your taking radiation dmg. And it works with spamming consumables too is what I understand. The demonstration i saw made dirty work work like coffee for ap regen. If you already know sorry for taking up space.
I’ve been wondering why this has been happening to me. Couldn’t replicate it but wow-when it kicks off-I’m taking off half the turrets shield in one vats burst. It’s crazy
Edit. I was spamming coffee stacks in the turret fight, it wasn’t consistent-seemed like I had to be near my teammate but idk. Swapped out my AA for a Quad plasma and just went ham
When you're unique, but not useful. That's the best way to describe this weapon
AA or Bloodied better on holy fire? I run a bloodied build but usually use AA weapons.
I think anti armor is the best if your hp full.. Went raid you will cure rad, your hp down like a water🤣
Bloodied if your bloodied lol 70-90% extra damage, I think boss fights AA would be better
😡🐢agreed it would've been better if the flame was green. Thank you for testing against Holy Fire. I also made my Holy Fire AA 4*, so after seeing the results it will stay as my go to weapon 😊
I think when your trying to showcase stuff you should really pop some berry mentats so your not running around looking for enemies. They get that sweet highlight to help you find them easier.
My Heavy Gunner has a collection of Heavy Weapons in his camp. But only problem with me NOT putting this in a display. I cannot change the last star to lightweight. So scrap it everytime I get one.
So whats the best way to start going to ideal rolled weapons? Theres the scrip vendor for random rolls, do I do that? do I buy Modules and rng eoll each star when crafting? Whats the best way to spent my mats?
Does anyone ever bash with a weapon like this?
And does it even make sense to try?
So have they fixed the problem of the special nozzles decreasing the range to melee while increasing the damage yet?
Or is it still unsafe do?
Another weapon for the wall 😂
It's scrap. Not even worth it as decoration
Does the auto axe stagger the mole miner in the raids as well as the shredder does
Looking to swap to auto axe as I already carry it and didn’t know if it will do the same job as the shredder
Thank you for all your videos and testing love your channel
I think so, but it isn’t as pronounced.
Turtle, I just got the loose box mod "Pyromaniacs's". I slapped it on my holy fire and it hooooo boyyy. My Holy fire is now this: Anti-Armor, Rapid, Durabale, Pyromaniacs! To be honest, I am not overwhelmed by any of the new unique weapons. I am just farming the first boss (using a lot of your suggestions, thank you for that!)
I have a unrelated question about mortimer at the creater. Maxed reputation almost all quests finished. Still no mortimer. Someone help...
You only unlock Mortimer if you side with the raiders during the last quest to steal the gold from the vault
Hmmm on my main I sided with Settlers and I have Mortimer and Jez. Cant remember when he unlocked though. I am Ally with both so you should get him unlocked….soonish. Try the fallout wiki or google.
What would you put on the third star?
I don't use it a lot so weight reduction
My main issues with the Boiling Point:
#1: The second star effect. Why not give it something like Hitman's to boost the damage while aiming? (I'm aware the sights are abysmal, but it could make players wanna use third person aiming more with it)
#2: The standard orange flame. I agree with Turtle, the Boiling Point absolutely should shoot green flame. That'd make it much more unique.
#3: Poison resist instead of poison damage. That simply just makes no sense to me. A poison flamer would be interesting (as long as they don't make it like the Acid Soaker from Fallout 4. That gun was terrible.)
Overall, I still like the Boiling Point and I may actually use it from time to time once I learn the plan to craft it. Solid 7/10 weapon IMO.
So what mod you looking for as a 3 star on holy fire?
Now how much cooler and mote interesting and more worth grind would be if it was 'flamer' with all mods and properties of flamer but instead of fire damage would it deal poison damage, we have no really many poison weapons
Does super duper work when crafting mod box?
Never worked for me
no but works on named weapons
@@AngryTurtle and do scrapper increase chance to get mod boxes?
@ no
I was recently using Holy Fire, and it was a blast, but I couldnt keep up with Fuel. it just goes through so much. So back to NA Rifles I went. Its still my favorite playstyle. Really need to get a better rolled Plasma Caster, as I enjoy that too, but I have Two Shot and its not that good.
Just do raids they give 1000 for each stage i ended up dropping 20k fuel every once in a while
@@lexeleister4618 I definitely dont have a build that would hold up in Raids. I cant even solo Daily Ops (in under 8 minutes). I'm not min/maxxed for weapons or armor lol.
Join expedition teams, you dont even have to shoot, just be near and u get contextual ammo.
How the 4 star look with the cremator?
I’ve always thought they needed to let the unique weapon skins be attainable or unlockable, could help keep players engaged to have to grind for it lol
Its cool af! I think it's awesome I was using it on my non-pa high health it was working great!!
Do enclave flamers work with the pyromaniacs mod?
Probably.
Crafted 30 of them and unlocked pyro on the first try lol. Did the same with the Ultracite Terror (first scrap). Meanwhile, I’ve scrapped close to 400 food weight reduction armors and no Thru Hiker. RNG
The takeaway is that it IS usable. It just cant compare to a (semi) perfectly crafted Flamer in the same tier. I feel like thats overall fair. Your crafted perfect weapon SHOULD be superior to a pre rolled weapon.
Granted, I don't do Raids, and likely never will, (if this is tradeable), it'll be easier to get with its 4* than crafting a god rolled Holy Fire. I likely won't get any 4* weapon any time soon though. tradeable or otherwise.
@hoofhearted4 As far as I'm aware no Raid weapon can be dropped, sold or traded nor can any of said plans from the raids. Outside of the 1-4* box mods.
Is Aristocrats better than Anti Armor? (full health)
for most weapons yes slightly
I can not wait for you to do a video on the resolve breaker
Got the plan for the Boiling Point, crafted 10 to scrap them for the legendary mods. Got two Pyromaniacs mods and learned the plan from those 10. Feel like ive already used all of my RNG luck for the entire of 2025 😂
Resolve breaker is really fun but very flashy
I agree that the skins for this weapon are good, as are the previous flamingo skins, but the Holy Fire can't use these skins, which is very unfortunate.
Hey turtle why aa holy fire and not furious to compare them equally ?
Most people will put the perfect role on holy fire that's why as with the regular weapon it will always just be as it is
They need to fix this weapon! Green fire would be great but they need to up the damage to outmatch the holy fire by at least 5 points of damage. Seriously ridiculous to go through an entire raid and get a flamethrower worse than what you already own
7:16 did you just say that you can’t extract the fourth star? I can craft the bullies mod, because I crafted a bunch of the weapons from the raid and then scrap them.
And you can 100% learn the pyromaniacs mode the same way
They are just expensive as how to make in the game
And if you like gaming down your sites, boiling point is a weapon they never thought of looking down the sites
I was talking about the skin, I want this weapon skin
I've never survived the crystal room (4th encounter). I just die though I've never seen what does it.
There is an invincible mole miner that kills you in one hit if it gets close enough, the only way to damage the creatures at that stage is to lure them to the crystals and then destroy said crystals, there will be an explosion effect that will damage the creatures that be close
What stage can you get what weapon
At stage 5
Maybe you should test weapon in the expedition? The over growns? WT mutens are kind of weak enemy at this point.
lvl 100 mutants were buffed in last patch
Guys the strat for the new boss, try to get the reflective 4 stars for power armor and make a ricochet build, have the sentry just keep shooting you and it disables the shield like in 10 seconds, then switch to auto axe with furiousxrapidxpounders= at least 1600 damage per tick the bot dies in like 5 seconds, total boss time is about 2ish minutes and I ran it like 16 times with some people yesterday and they were just jumping into the electric grid so the robot targets me and I can just speed run rewards for them
Love my holy fire and been using it since it first came out. Now with Pyromaniacs on, I love it even more but yes, I wish there were some skins for it and you could change the flame colour like you can on the Cremator. Boiling point is pretty much a disappointment for me as is most of the other new weapons even though it looks sooooo awesome.
I wish you were able to learn skins like mods.
It should have been a Poison or Venom spewer.
Scrapping boiling point got me pyromaniacs so might have to upgrade Holy Fire.
When you modify any of the stars on the holy fire including that fourth star you lose a massive amount of damage
How so
Wrong.
I'm not the only one who wanted the flame to be green
Great review as always...for me cosmetics are irrelevant...great note on pyromaniac and std barrels...will be scrapping boiling points and upgrading my Holy Fire having dropped 4 pyromaniacs
That's my take. It's pretty and a great caddy for mods
Honestly it should’ve done poison damage too instead of poison resist.
Let me oil you up
Wish we can unlock the skin. The flamer itself is just meh
Juat give me skins, no more unique weapons ill make tkem myself
It's horrible. Most of the new weapons are meh at best.
Damn, if only Bethesda could do a good job.
Absolute useless dog shit. Bash damage on a flamer? Thanks Bethesda.
Flame color Disappointed me as well The Ultracite Terror Sword is a different story 🙏😑❤️🔥
you know what i hate about this game i learned the plan for calibrated shocks for fulcan pa but problem is its not on the characters i want it to be 😂 just wish i was that lucky on my main character
I disagree on being able to change named gear.
There are reasons why they can't be changed. Unique weapons have their look and effects to make them stand out from the rest.
They don't have to be the best. The "hidden" effects also make it unique.
If you could strip everything from it and "learn" it then it's not unique or special. It's not always about damage numbers.
This. Uniques don't need to be good, they're mostly for flavor. Sometimes they happen to be good, and thats great. But really, a crafted weapon, especially god rolled, should be better than a unique. Imagine if you spent all the time to get the perfect weapon and all the legendaries, and a unique comes out that drops better than that weapon. That would feel awful.
@hoofhearted4 Flex
Oh hey the roll looks kinda dec- BASH DAMAGE
Need a good raid team. Hit me up! Lol i need that 4 star mod for my holyfire
In first person it's impossible to use it
Did I find an angry turtle video within one minute of upload? Yes, yes I did!
tbh i with wish the fire was green
Seems like all the unique ones suck even holy fire does less damage than vampire flamer. Unique chainsaw cant use dual bar, flamer mod or be 2star modified for heavy hitter 40% power attack.
Another boomer is that after all these years, none of the base flamer skins are cross skins like the fixer/combat rifle😤😤😤
It would be better as a skin.
Please don't nerf the Holy Fire, instead let people re roll the Boiling Point.
Its bugged, range after modify is a joke, closer than a melee
Bash damage 😭
In resume, do not do raids, the time and effort is not worthy 😮💨.
Great video, but wow how disappointing 😅
he ruin the point of holy fire
Ngl, they need to add an option to buy caps, are have events where we can significantly earn more caps. Events need to start rewarding 20k caps. Because im not having luck getting mod boxes. Since that last update where they introduced that mechanic, ive scrapped probably over 300 legendary items and got 6 learned plans out of it. Now player vendors are selling mod boxes and they can be highly expensive. Especially now since 4 stars are introduced. We need more caps. Introduced a way to buy caps, or have events start rewarding 20k caps per event.
Anyone wanna gift me a Pyromaniac?? :) I've got stuff...
"Best Looking" ? Are you crazy? Trying to aim down sights with it literally blocks your entire field of view!
holy fire better
Two minutes 🎉
Two minutes is more than enough, cheers
Theu do same damage my dud your smoke they have the same damage they both was doing 1400 to 1500 but I guess you just dumv
The weapon is ugly af
en pocas palabras el holy fire debe ser nerfeado otra vez
The skin is so ugly
Third
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