I feel that as a feral ghoul the player should gain strength and endurance, but have heavy debuffs on charisma, perception, and intelligence. I hope Bethesda changes this.
At first the movement speed made sense, and I figured less strength as well. Because they look like skeletons. Then I remembered, “Have you SEEN them move??” Ah right.
I just wish they kept the worn out look of the ghoul perk cards like what they've shown last Fallout Day. It looks way cooler and it makes it easier to differentiate the ghoul cards to normal cards.
Also I don't get why players seem to hate the fact you need to manage stuff. That's part of playing an RPG. in all honesty if you hate to manage stuff don't play as A ghoul at all or be A bloodied or Junkies build.
I wonder if the game will let you teleport into a nuke zone if you are a ghoul. It would be interesting if Bethesda made enemy ferals not hostile to ghoul players, but I doubt they would do that.
Id love for a future perk card that has a chance for a ghoul or two to join u in a fight as an allie if possible, like ur the ghoul leader or something
They way they explain it in-game is it's completely random as to whether a feral ghoul will attack a player ghoul. How it actually works, I don't know. I was too busy exploring the new area & looking for good CAMP sites to really try combat.
I'm wondering if Human players are gonna go wild for Ghoul Slayer weapons now and will they double damage on Ghoul Players cause those weapons are really gonna be sought after when this update goes out if its so!
In fallout 4 the d-pad had 3 slots I think. Wish they would do that in 76 to allow us to have those and quick slots and the radial for other consumable or weapons.
It had 3 on each direction, yes. However I'm not sure you'd really want that in FO76, it slows down the inputs quite a bit scrolling through that sub menu so it wouldn't be any better than the favorites wheel we currently have.
The Salvaged Assultron Head gunslinger goul seems like a really fun gimmick build when this goes live. I think the perks to get more damage by using glow would benefit the weapon and the rads from firing it will help top off glow.
Same, as soon as I heard the ghoul announcement months ago I started a 2nd character to be ready as a ghoul. I started this current season at level 230 and after doing the raids for over 76 clears I'm now level 504. I'm ready for this update
They should make all of the Ghoul perks that “restore health” restore rads instead. That would make maintaining glow easier and make that one legendary perk useful as well.
If you use xbox elite controller on pc you can put your favorites on the paddles but it doesnt work the same as with keyboard. You can just do a quick command so with a Single Button it uses the consumable on your wheel. Still it will not qork while fireing. I use it for coffee now. Works fine but not same as Spam something while shooting
@@hoofhearted4 I wouldn't say they're weird, controller does a lot of things better than m/kb. With m/kb you're locking into just 8 directions of movement and 2-3 movement speeds, with a controller you can move at any speed in any direction which is a much better experience getting around the map and allows for better gunplay even if the thumbstick aim isn't as twitchy as a mouse.
@@hoofhearted4 I do it cause I didn't have a PC that could play games until I was in my mid 20's. By that point I had spent nearly 20 years on controller and it was just more hassle than it's worrth to learn to shoot on keyboard and mouse. I do use them for MMO's and such but shooters I still kinda default to controller.
Probably because everyone was whining how had to be bloodied for most damage, etc... and they couldnt get rid of bloodied, or then those that run it would be mad, so guessing this was best solution, which I dont mind, gives ppl more options to choose how they want to play and enjoy the game
@@ericb6390i wish they make the ghoulificaton reversible and redoable any amount of time. Being able to do it just once and never again seems really meh
@@muffininacup4060 This mentality is exactly the reason why Fallout turned into a complete joke that can barely be called an RPG. No commitment and consequences to anything.
... not really. Hancock is a ghoul that happens to be a chem addict. Doesn't mean every ghoul is a chem addict. Is every single human addicted to nuka cola just because that one lady in fallout 3 was?
I think it's supposed to also be a balancing mechanic. Well, as a human you could use a perk to not have to get addicted as a ghoul because you no longer need hunger and being feral could be a buff. They needed a bounceing mechanic. To be a nod Farrell, you have to use cims . The trade-off though is you can get addicted to them
Hancock was a drug addicted before becoming a ghoul. And in the show it's implied that the drug specifically that the Ghoul was taking was something to prevent him from being feral.
I would argue overeaters should work for ghouls if it checked on state of sanity (feral meter) instead, or maybe specific legendary effect with similar effect checking for that metric
@@K451P4LL0 Back before OE existed, it wasn't uncommon for full health players to have 5 different prefixes... Troubleshooter, Hunter, Exterminator, Mutant Slayer, Zealot etc... to take 15% less damage from most enemy types. Ghouls may want to consider doing that if survivability is a concern, but it could also open up "worse" effects to be used since there's no clear winner now (e.g. Life Saving, Auto Stim, Regenerating).
@@K451P4LL0 The other 1* effects are still useful, and as long as you match them properly you actually come out better than with OE. The other resist effects are more specific, but they give 2.5x the protection, it only takes 2 pieces to match the protection of an entire OE set. You can still benefit more than just that as well: you'll want multiple sets of armor to maximize your resistance anyway, so you might as well match the armor itself to the damage that enemy type tends to do instead of using a generalized set of armor. For example, the "best" armor is the Secret Service set because it provides high protection against both ballistic and energy damage, however Brotherhood Recon armor has better ballistic protection and Civil Engineer armor has better energy protection. Pair either one with a corresponding enemy type and you'll be much better off than a more generalized set. (eg, BR with Mutant Slayer and you'll be taking significantly less damage during Eviction Notice than SS with OE) EDIT: BTW, the less damage you take (eg, from higher resistances) the less damage your armor takes and the less often you need to repair it.
Ghouls should totally be allowed to use Overeater's, especially since they can't use Unyielding, and they can't use the perks that scale with Endurance (Iron Stomach, Natural Resistance, Thirst Quencher). Missing out on Iron Stomach and Natural Resistance is quite a bit of lost Resistances.
Incorrect. I want to be Cain. The only ghoul to ever apply for the BoS ( Yes its not a canon game but thats why it works in 76 as ANYONE can join the BoS unless they change it in the PTS )
I honestly don’t think Bethesda is ready to implement this yet. I still like keeping up with the dailies, seasonal events and challenges, but the bugged Holiday Scorched and the Gleaming depths glitches that are going to be patched just reemphasize some of the technical issues that have been present since the games release that haven’t been fixed yet. During a time when AI should serve as a useful tool to fix these things the casual player can’t keep up on the constant nerfs buffs and rebalancing of their character and equipment. Plus the necessity of the bloodied big guns power armor build for endgame quests still spoils the RPG element for players who want to do anything different. It just seems like Bethesda’s constantly playing catch-up, while reaching for things that exceed their grasp.
What I think could be a solution for consoles is they make radioactive stimpaks which you make at a chem station… inject the toxic goo into those stimpaks
A small question of mine about the mutations, u lose them when losing rads without the starched genes, as a ghoul would be necessary to mantain on the build or not? How the mutations works on ghouls?
Seems a bit confusing and problematic using ghoul. If I can swap to ghoul and human whenever I please then I’d play as ghoul. But it doesn’t seem worth it if it’s a one time change as ghoul
Do the food perks actually stack with the feral perks? 400+% melee damage sounds pretty broken with the auto axe but that is the main reason I've set aside my melee character for conversion
So basically they want to buff full health builds because 90% of people that min max their character for damage at end game is low hp with bloodied legendaries and it's honestly a good thing, it's gonna bring more variety for builds while not hurting bloodied builds themselves !
The ghoul state is affected by the application of ANY chems, yes? This is an example of the Hawthorne subject-expectancy effect. My Masters degree was in statistical methods for locus of control experiments. Ghouls in the Fallout universe may believe that certain chems produce these ghoul state effects and they do. But they are unreliable narrators, so the specific chem is not relevant, even if they are convinced that it is. This was my theory for the Fallout TV series, and it seems it will carry over into the mechanics of Fallout 76.
Well, in theory you get glowing as extra health, the problem is that glowing cannot be restored with health regeneration perks/chems For now, the difference is very low, it just changes your bar management from "hunger and thirst" to "feral and glowing" For damage, as most of the perks says to consume glow for more damage, i would say no difference at all
"We've heard you console players! So we are going to give you 10 toxic goo a day." Well what about the controller remap we asked for during the PTS? "10 toxic goo a day, don't thank me now player base." :| Yeah even 3 months ago before the ping was introduced, I saw the problem that console players have. And now this is going to just make the problem that much worse.
seems like a load of rubbish to be honest .. only think the game nerds will like this .. i play too casually to get invested with this stuff and some of the tests you and others do is way too complicated for an old gamer like me lol
Thats not a good take away, how many areas is that really usable in? Scorch queen? What about all the people that move it away to the safe zone? Radiation rumble? A nuke zone for what farming ingredients with enemies that get one tapped anyways by a good build? I think you missed the point...
@wormwoodmain6677 why? Cause I don't need to compensate for inadequacies? I didn't say it was super useful, but it has a use that he didn't mention. That's all I was pointing out.
@@Lordoftheapes79regardless his point is valid, dhat card is useless cuhz theirs basically no need for it since nobody spends time in high radiation areas like dhat
A slow firing, but high damage might be better able to make use of the glow consuming perks. Do shotguns use more glow due to pellet count? Or is it like vampire now?
Unless I’m missing something, there’s way more negatives than positives unless you’re a melee build? As a sneak, stealth commando all of this extra micromanagement just adds +3 strength/endurance? You don’t need that.. 🤔
Can you gain glow from radiation if you’re below 100% health or does it heal you back up first? If it’s the former, then maybe unyielding could work by shooting explosive ammo at your feet instead of the typical radiation route
I got a pretty hilarious glitch and went down when trying to become a ghoul, made me labeled as a ghoul and complete the quest without being a ghoul. Submitted the bug on PTS bug reports for ghoul quest line, even had a video of it. Pretty funny but sad I haven't been able to try being a ghoul.
I dunno man, seems like it kind of sucks to be a ghoul. What is the advantage? What would be the best build that takes advantage of being a ghoul? Also, having to carrying around a shit ton of toxic goo seems annoying.
for the grenade perk I still think a build with nuka nades is possible where you replenish glow by staying in the blast radius, basically a walking atom bomb
For me Overeaters was at 0% as a ghoul on PTS, had to use perfect bubblegum to make it the full 6%. So it seems hunger/thirst is still active in the background.
I have over 2,000 hours in 76 over 5 years, all in Melee. I’m very glad we’re getting some buffs. I’m also glad that my long standing dream of being a Ghoul will finally result in Ghoul Melee. It’s a dream come true.
@@Fehn_Fennec its insanely good, if you run a stranglers PA set, furious, power attack damage 3 strength auto axe with pounders you can kill the raid boss in 57 seconds, hopefully they dont nerf it
@ not a power armor user myself, but I enjoy being Melee. I use similar gear & am super excited for the ghoul update. I just found out that in order to keep your feral meter low you can’t use Chems, which is perfect as I only use Stimpacks
You can actually put yourself into a hidden rad deficient if you use automatic weapons. Making it extremely dificult to gain radation back. The only way to fix tbis was to go to emmett mountian disposal.
Imagine fighting the scorch beast queen inside a nuke zone as a ghoul. Or fighting in any nuke zone. I am predicting a lot more nukes flying in the future.
I can't wait to be a ghoul but I don't think u should be locked out of being a ghoul or human i think the first time should be free and u have to pay next time
Its all sounding pretty cool, just i haven't got enough space to keep changing things and storing stuff, if the ghoul isnt going to have alot of space for items too i just cant change my meta again , i literally have no left in my stash, im on fallout first too, we need double space for our stashes , cause im not starting a new character, love the vid AT
The fact I’m on console and there’s not Hot 🥵 button to get my glow back, I’m not starting my ghoul at all until that is fixed period, I’m not going to lose my glow in a moments notice then have to wait to get it back after the coast is all clear…ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOT🛑🫡🐢💯
The END perks like lead belly are locked out for ghouls because you can't get sick as a ghoul, so they wouldn't have a "downside" of not working when you sick. As for glow spending perks, I feal like Bethesda is trying to push single shot/slow attacking weapons with big damage, with the ghouls mechanics. These perks give you a huge damage buff and you don't really care for a small amount of glow, if you basically oneshot your target.
I think it makes sense that ghouls can get addicted to chems like anyone else - it's their choice how much they take in order to avoid going feral, there should be some consequence to it. Plus... I have a Junkie character I want to ghoulify 😉
Fix: Make glow separate from HP and not a 2nd health bar so they can still take health damage while glowing, but still limit the glow pool based on HP.
Mmmm well that makes it a clear choice foe me. No care to be a ghoul. Was hoping the stagger thing was just permanent with the card but it's not so my care to be a ghoul is dead.
You should get addicted as A ghoul it just should take more to get addicted then A human... "ghouls can indeed get addicted to chems, but their experience with addiction differs from that of humans. Ghouls are extremely resistant to the effects of chems, often requiring ultra-jet or engaging in multi-day binges to achieve any noticeable high. However, they can still suffer from addiction and potentially overdose if they have access to a large enough stash of chems."
I remember back when they were saying crossplay was going to be added, it would solve the problem of not being able to hotkey items if i could use keyboard and mouse on console
Can't wait to see what they break in game with this content, I've never unsubscribed from anything so fast as I have regarding fo1st and the Bethesda scams.
it just makes sense as a ghoul to melee it lore accurate and doesn't make sense to run around shooting as a ghoul it looks Dum it seems like they made it with melee behind it giving us melee folks love
What if, in your mouse software you assign for example keyboard number 2 to your mouse 1 button to rapid press and then but Toxic Goo to the number 2 slot in game. That way every time you shoot/melee you will consume Toxic Goo and wont lose any Glow? 🤔
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I've argued for years for the quickstim button to be assignable. Sounds like it's a bigger deal now.
And the fact that it starts with weakest stim vs. you able to pick diffuser or super is dumb
@n1c2c8 yup. Diluted Stimpacks are the leading cause of death in 76.
@@n1c2c8 Definitely. I have to consistently sell out the diluted ones. Frustrating. It only works for bloodied build when you only need the diluted.
@@kanledeluge9562how come for bloodied build diluted is favorable?
@@lamardavis8733less health on a bloody build
I feel that as a feral ghoul the player should gain strength and endurance, but have heavy debuffs on charisma, perception, and intelligence. I hope Bethesda changes this.
Yeah, you see how fast feral ghouls move in game? Endurance is maxed on them.
@@slavabtomat Right. also movement speed penalty is dumb.
I get not using the feral model, but i wish there was a animation change at least
At first the movement speed made sense, and I figured less strength as well. Because they look like skeletons.
Then I remembered, “Have you SEEN them move??”
Ah right.
@ Right. I agree with OP. with feral charisma, perception, and intelligence should be the ones to take the hits and no speed nerf.
I just wish they kept the worn out look of the ghoul perk cards like what they've shown last Fallout Day. It looks way cooler and it makes it easier to differentiate the ghoul cards to normal cards.
The perks that consume your glow are actually amazing if you're in a nuke zone or during the Eviction Notice event.
Also I don't get why players seem to hate the fact you need to manage stuff. That's part of playing an RPG. in all honesty if you hate to manage stuff don't play as A ghoul at all or be A bloodied or Junkies build.
I wonder if the game will let you teleport into a nuke zone if you are a ghoul. It would be interesting if Bethesda made enemy ferals not hostile to ghoul players, but I doubt they would do that.
Id love for a future perk card that has a chance for a ghoul or two to join u in a fight as an allie if possible, like ur the ghoul leader or something
Just die in a SBQ, most of the time I spawn back in the nuke zone.😂
They way they explain it in-game is it's completely random as to whether a feral ghoul will attack a player ghoul. How it actually works, I don't know. I was too busy exploring the new area & looking for good CAMP sites to really try combat.
I'm wondering if Human players are gonna go wild for Ghoul Slayer weapons now and will they double damage on Ghoul Players cause those weapons are really gonna be sought after when this update goes out if its so!
Was gonna do the ghoul on my main but changed my mind idk if I’ll do it all
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In fallout 4 the d-pad had 3 slots I think. Wish they would do that in 76 to allow us to have those and quick slots and the radial for other consumable or weapons.
It had 3 on each direction, yes. However I'm not sure you'd really want that in FO76, it slows down the inputs quite a bit scrolling through that sub menu so it wouldn't be any better than the favorites wheel we currently have.
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Being a feral ghoul will make your melee builds even stronger.
That's a big plus!
Yes I've just started a auto axe build that I love! First build I've put effort into getting perfect gear for! I'm excited for ghoul personally
Lots of people play Fallout 76 on PC with a controller not just console. Both platforms need better assignable control options in 76.
The Salvaged Assultron Head gunslinger goul seems like a really fun gimmick build when this goes live. I think the perks to get more damage by using glow would benefit the weapon and the rads from firing it will help top off glow.
After this video I'm suddenly not that hyped anymore
Hopefully Bethesda adds more ways to gain rads as a ghoul passively.
Don't like that ghouls would require MORE rad management than bloodied builds.
For the FO76 devs it should be mandatory to watch every video you release, so they know what needs fixing/rebalancing :)
probably not gonna become a ghoul on my main
Same, at first I wanted to but in the current state I think I might pass
Same here.
I may do the whole quest line, but only if at the end you can decline turning into a ghoul…
Same, as soon as I heard the ghoul announcement months ago I started a 2nd character to be ready as a ghoul. I started this current season at level 230 and after doing the raids for over 76 clears I'm now level 504. I'm ready for this update
Same. But I have an unarmed build character which I will let become a feral ghoul and a shotgun build that I will turn to a ghoul too.
They should make all of the Ghoul perks that “restore health” restore rads instead. That would make maintaining glow easier and make that one legendary perk useful as well.
theses goul powers are not in line with the tv series ? fallout
Problem for console players AND PC players who enjoy playing with a controller
I actually didn't know you could do this on PC 😅
If you use xbox elite controller on pc you can put your favorites on the paddles but it doesnt work the same as with keyboard. You can just do a quick command so with a Single Button it uses the consumable on your wheel. Still it will not qork while fireing. I use it for coffee now. Works fine but not same as Spam something while shooting
@@SkrrtFishing Theres a couple of weird people out there who use a controller for PC games lol.
@@hoofhearted4 I wouldn't say they're weird, controller does a lot of things better than m/kb. With m/kb you're locking into just 8 directions of movement and 2-3 movement speeds, with a controller you can move at any speed in any direction which is a much better experience getting around the map and allows for better gunplay even if the thumbstick aim isn't as twitchy as a mouse.
@@hoofhearted4 I do it cause I didn't have a PC that could play games until I was in my mid 20's. By that point I had spent nearly 20 years on controller and it was just more hassle than it's worrth to learn to shoot on keyboard and mouse. I do use them for MMO's and such but shooters I still kinda default to controller.
Takes "full health builds" to a whole new level.
Probably because everyone was whining how had to be bloodied for most damage, etc... and they couldnt get rid of bloodied, or then those that run it would be mad, so guessing this was best solution, which I dont mind, gives ppl more options to choose how they want to play and enjoy the game
@@ericb6390i wish they make the ghoulificaton reversible and redoable any amount of time. Being able to do it just once and never again seems really meh
@@muffininacup4060 This mentality is exactly the reason why Fallout turned into a complete joke that can barely be called an RPG. No commitment and consequences to anything.
You certainly deserve the Quality Tester Title, Turtle.
Ghoul chem addiction is already established lore, Hancock comes to mind. That & the ghoul in the show kept popping whatever chem that was in the show.
... not really. Hancock is a ghoul that happens to be a chem addict. Doesn't mean every ghoul is a chem addict. Is every single human addicted to nuka cola just because that one lady in fallout 3 was?
bro thats just hancock
I think it's supposed to also be a balancing mechanic. Well, as a human you could use a perk to not have to get addicted as a ghoul because you no longer need hunger and being feral could be a buff. They needed a bounceing mechanic. To be a nod Farrell, you have to use cims . The trade-off though is you can get addicted to them
Hancock was a drug addicted before becoming a ghoul. And in the show it's implied that the drug specifically that the Ghoul was taking was something to prevent him from being feral.
I thought it was rad away or rad x so he didn't become feral. I've played fo 3 nv 4 and 76 but I got ADHD and it's in one ear and out the other
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Take a shot every time he says "con sue may bells"
He's a very handsome polish man, so we can let it slide
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@@wormwoodmain6677 Polish* (if I recall correctly)
Overeaters is not supposed to work with Ghouls. Thats a PTS bug.
I would argue overeaters should work for ghouls if it checked on state of sanity (feral meter) instead, or maybe specific legendary effect with similar effect checking for that metric
So there's no actually useful 1* armor for ghouls then? :D Guess might wait for becoming one if that's the case.
@@K451P4LL0 Back before OE existed, it wasn't uncommon for full health players to have 5 different prefixes... Troubleshooter, Hunter, Exterminator, Mutant Slayer, Zealot etc... to take 15% less damage from most enemy types. Ghouls may want to consider doing that if survivability is a concern, but it could also open up "worse" effects to be used since there's no clear winner now (e.g. Life Saving, Auto Stim, Regenerating).
@@K451P4LL0 The other 1* effects are still useful, and as long as you match them properly you actually come out better than with OE. The other resist effects are more specific, but they give 2.5x the protection, it only takes 2 pieces to match the protection of an entire OE set. You can still benefit more than just that as well: you'll want multiple sets of armor to maximize your resistance anyway, so you might as well match the armor itself to the damage that enemy type tends to do instead of using a generalized set of armor.
For example, the "best" armor is the Secret Service set because it provides high protection against both ballistic and energy damage, however Brotherhood Recon armor has better ballistic protection and Civil Engineer armor has better energy protection. Pair either one with a corresponding enemy type and you'll be much better off than a more generalized set. (eg, BR with Mutant Slayer and you'll be taking significantly less damage during Eviction Notice than SS with OE)
EDIT: BTW, the less damage you take (eg, from higher resistances) the less damage your armor takes and the less often you need to repair it.
Ghouls should totally be allowed to use Overeater's, especially since they can't use Unyielding, and they can't use the perks that scale with Endurance (Iron Stomach, Natural Resistance, Thirst Quencher). Missing out on Iron Stomach and Natural Resistance is quite a bit of lost Resistances.
There was a time when everybody wanted to be 'The Courier' adventuring through the Mojave. Now everybody wants to be Cooper Howard.
Incorrect. I want to be Cain. The only ghoul to ever apply for the BoS
( Yes its not a canon game but thats why it works in 76 as ANYONE can join the BoS unless they change it in the PTS )
Personally, I hated the show. At least the first 2 episodes, couldn’t force myself to continue.
@@jacobbecklehimer7781 you probably shouldnt just broadcast to the world that you have awful taste.
What if they added a leaking nuke backpack that constantly gives glow? They could balance it by not having storage capacity
I would just like "glowing stimipacks". Take a stimpack add some nuclear waste and boom, ghoul stims.
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That Gatling Plasma firing 😂
Reminds me of Gaige from Borderlands 2. Now we just need a perk card that gives missed shots a chance to bounce towards the enemy.
More like Gatling Shotgun
I honestly don’t think Bethesda is ready to implement this yet.
I still like keeping up with the dailies, seasonal events and challenges, but the bugged Holiday Scorched and the Gleaming depths glitches that are going to be patched just reemphasize some of the technical issues that have been present since the games release that haven’t been fixed yet. During a time when AI should serve as a useful tool to fix these things the casual player can’t keep up on the constant nerfs buffs and rebalancing of their character and equipment. Plus the necessity of the bloodied big guns power armor build for endgame quests still spoils the RPG element for players who want to do anything different.
It just seems like Bethesda’s constantly playing catch-up, while reaching for things that exceed their grasp.
Man, turtle was making the "expend glow" perks sound like they would remove a LOT of glow. Turns out, he's over exaggerating like he usually does.
I can see that energy dmg perk useful for the plasma caster for some insane damage
Ghoul in its current state is a hard pass for me
My main question is does it make you weak against Ghoul Slayer Legendary Weapons… and weaker against Ghoul Slayer Armor…
What I think could be a solution for consoles is they make radioactive stimpaks which you make at a chem station… inject the toxic goo into those stimpaks
Glowing blood and toxic water being base components?
New Meta for Rad Rumble, Ghouls to the tunnels please…….
as a full health and melee build, my main will become a ghoul x)
76 is a complete mess atm. There are even more bugs popping up daily.This update will just make the game even worse.
Some of the ghoul cards specifically say ghoul and some do not. Can some of the ghoul cards give benefits to humans if shared on team?
I didn't try that good question
A small question of mine about the mutations, u lose them when losing rads without the starched genes, as a ghoul would be necessary to mantain on the build or not? How the mutations works on ghouls?
That's a really good question
to avoid power landing, hold R button to hyde your weapon, just before touching the ground and this will disable the animation.
So, you want to be a ghoul with no penalties? Would be nice but, you gotta give up something.
As with any mutation, perk or build. Pros and cons.
"Gonna need some more chems soon. I'm starting to lose the colors" -Raider Punk.
Seems a bit confusing and problematic using ghoul. If I can swap to ghoul and human whenever I please then I’d play as ghoul. But it doesn’t seem worth it if it’s a one time change as ghoul
No. Becoming a ghoul should be a commitment.
I'm getting ESO vampire flashbacks
Radium rifle with explosive effect will be very useful after the update. It has been collecting dust in the stash box for far too long.😊
Maybe a high luck build with missing in vats hits accumulate crit meter and grim reaper kills give you ap ?
Do the food perks actually stack with the feral perks? 400+% melee damage sounds pretty broken with the auto axe but that is the main reason I've set aside my melee character for conversion
Hope some of those endurance perks not being available is a bug since despite their names they have nothing to do with hunger or thirst anymore.
So basically they want to buff full health builds because 90% of people that min max their character for damage at end game is low hp with bloodied legendaries and it's honestly a good thing, it's gonna bring more variety for builds while not hurting bloodied builds themselves !
Do you think for a feral ghoul melee build thorn armor would be best? (zero rad resist)
Thorn effect is kinda weak, but go for it.
The ghoul state is affected by the application of ANY chems, yes? This is an example of the Hawthorne subject-expectancy effect. My Masters degree was in statistical methods for locus of control experiments. Ghouls in the Fallout universe may believe that certain chems produce these ghoul state effects and they do. But they are unreliable narrators, so the specific chem is not relevant, even if they are convinced that it is.
This was my theory for the Fallout TV series, and it seems it will carry over into the mechanics of Fallout 76.
I’m on console and I use toxic water for irradiance. Is toxic goo much better at the same job?
yes it's better
Looks like ghouls perk cards that consume Glow for dmg, are very good for single shot or very slow weapons
which is exactly my playstyle. Maybe Juggernauts NA rifle will actually be good hah.
Exactly! Ghouls are built for hard hitting melee or non automatic weapons. Which is a great thing as they needed a buff.
If I'm full health PA heavy gunner, will going non-feral ghoul be an improvement to dps and survival?
Well, in theory you get glowing as extra health, the problem is that glowing cannot be restored with health regeneration perks/chems
For now, the difference is very low, it just changes your bar management from "hunger and thirst" to "feral and glowing"
For damage, as most of the perks says to consume glow for more damage, i would say no difference at all
17:44 R.I.P. Inspirational
"We've heard you console players! So we are going to give you 10 toxic goo a day."
Well what about the controller remap we asked for during the PTS?
"10 toxic goo a day, don't thank me now player base."
:|
Yeah even 3 months ago before the ping was introduced, I saw the problem that console players have. And now this is going to just make the problem that much worse.
seems like a load of rubbish to be honest .. only think the game nerds will like this .. i play too casually to get invested with this stuff and some of the tests you and others do is way too complicated for an old gamer like me lol
So, being a bloodied Ghoul will not be a thing because of the mechanics. Looks like I'll stay human _😂😂_
24:15 I think you missed the point of this one. This card is optimized in high radiation areas, like nuke zones.
Thats not a good take away, how many areas is that really usable in? Scorch queen? What about all the people that move it away to the safe zone? Radiation rumble? A nuke zone for what farming ingredients with enemies that get one tapped anyways by a good build? I think you missed the point...
@wormwoodmain6677 why? Cause I don't need to compensate for inadequacies? I didn't say it was super useful, but it has a use that he didn't mention. That's all I was pointing out.
@@Lordoftheapes79regardless his point is valid, dhat card is useless cuhz theirs basically no need for it since nobody spends time in high radiation areas like dhat
A slow firing, but high damage might be better able to make use of the glow consuming perks. Do shotguns use more glow due to pellet count? Or is it like vampire now?
Unless I’m missing something, there’s way more negatives than positives unless you’re a melee build? As a sneak, stealth commando all of this extra micromanagement just adds +3 strength/endurance? You don’t need that.. 🤔
Feral isn't actually that hard to manage, easier than hunger and thirst are anyway. AT is just putting 0 effort into not going feral.
It's looking my new auto axe build will eat tho. Not excited for a lot of it though won't lie
Can you gain glow from radiation if you’re below 100% health or does it heal you back up first? If it’s the former, then maybe unyielding could work by shooting explosive ammo at your feet instead of the typical radiation route
heal first
I got a pretty hilarious glitch and went down when trying to become a ghoul, made me labeled as a ghoul and complete the quest without being a ghoul. Submitted the bug on PTS bug reports for ghoul quest line, even had a video of it. Pretty funny but sad I haven't been able to try being a ghoul.
I dunno man, seems like it kind of sucks to be a ghoul. What is the advantage? What would be the best build that takes advantage of being a ghoul?
Also, having to carrying around a shit ton of toxic goo seems annoying.
The ghoul exclusive perks are absolutely insane
for the grenade perk I still think a build with nuka nades is possible where you replenish glow by staying in the blast radius, basically a walking atom bomb
For me Overeaters was at 0% as a ghoul on PTS, had to use perfect bubblegum to make it the full 6%. So it seems hunger/thirst is still active in the background.
Mine was at 5 out of six thinking it's not supposed to work maybe a bug
I have over 2,000 hours in 76 over 5 years, all in Melee. I’m very glad we’re getting some buffs.
I’m also glad that my long standing dream of being a Ghoul will finally result in Ghoul Melee. It’s a dream come true.
Glad for some buffs? 80%+ damage with glowing meat, plus pounders, does 2500 damage per hit with the auto axe
@ got myself Pounders 👍, just today actually
@@Fehn_Fennec its insanely good, if you run a stranglers PA set, furious, power attack damage 3 strength auto axe with pounders you can kill the raid boss in 57 seconds, hopefully they dont nerf it
@ not a power armor user myself, but I enjoy being Melee. I use similar gear & am super excited for the ghoul update.
I just found out that in order to keep your feral meter low you can’t use Chems, which is perfect as I only use Stimpacks
You can actually put yourself into a hidden rad deficient if you use automatic weapons. Making it extremely dificult to gain radation back. The only way to fix tbis was to go to emmett mountian disposal.
Damn. Seeing all those tanky END perks locked stinks.
Imagine fighting the scorch beast queen inside a nuke zone as a ghoul. Or fighting in any nuke zone. I am predicting a lot more nukes flying in the future.
I can't wait to be a ghoul but I don't think u should be locked out of being a ghoul or human i think the first time should be free and u have to pay next time
Pay? Why would you need to pay at all?
Why would you have to pay ever?
Why would you need to pay at all? What a strange thing to say.
You shouldn't pay at all, free changes as much you like
I know this is a casual game, but I think commitment should matter in an RPG.
Its all sounding pretty cool, just i haven't got enough space to keep changing things and storing stuff, if the ghoul isnt going to have alot of space for items too i just cant change my meta again , i literally have no left in my stash, im on fallout first too, we need double space for our stashes , cause im not starting a new character, love the vid AT
Ghouls aren't immune to addiction? This is the most convoluted method Bethesda could have come up with to make Junkies useful....
The fact I’m on console and there’s not Hot 🥵 button to get my glow back, I’m not starting my ghoul at all until that is fixed period, I’m not going to lose my glow in a moments notice then have to wait to get it back after the coast is all clear…ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOT🛑🫡🐢💯
The END perks like lead belly are locked out for ghouls because you can't get sick as a ghoul, so they wouldn't have a "downside" of not working when you sick.
As for glow spending perks, I feal like Bethesda is trying to push single shot/slow attacking weapons with big damage, with the ghouls mechanics.
These perks give you a huge damage buff and you don't really care for a small amount of glow, if you basically oneshot your target.
How much if a hassle is it to keep that glow bar going? Is it worth it ? Or to much of a hassle
Less than 10 minutes into video and I already don't want to be a ghoul, or continue playing 76. Just boring af shit.
I think it makes sense that ghouls can get addicted to chems like anyone else - it's their choice how much they take in order to avoid going feral, there should be some consequence to it. Plus... I have a Junkie character I want to ghoulify 😉
Not really a fan of this so far, hope they rework it. Also not beeing able to change back and forth without paying atoms sucks. Merry Christmas all!
Not a fan of how everything is glowing. Your weapon and cloths shouldnt glow. Just you. Or at least not the weapon.
Fix: Make glow separate from HP and not a 2nd health bar so they can still take health damage while glowing, but still limit the glow pool based on HP.
They are gonna add all these melee buffs just to nerf em
Knowing Bethesda? Yes. (sadly)
Mmmm well that makes it a clear choice foe me. No care to be a ghoul. Was hoping the stagger thing was just permanent with the card but it's not so my care to be a ghoul is dead.
If going full feral makes guns unusable arent the consume glow cards just there to micromanage the fact you dont want to glow max?
So do feral ghouls attack you still? Im surprised you didnt show if they do or not
yes they did
According to new game dialogue, it's completely random as to whether feral ghouls will attack player ghouls.
The whole "eat glow to do more damage" is perfectly valid... in nuke zone. ;)
Can you benefit from overeaters armor as a ghoul?
As of right now yes
You should get addicted as A ghoul it just should take more to get addicted then A human...
"ghouls can indeed get addicted to chems, but their experience with addiction differs from that of humans. Ghouls are extremely resistant to the effects of chems, often requiring ultra-jet or engaging in multi-day binges to achieve any noticeable high. However, they can still suffer from addiction and potentially overdose if they have access to a large enough stash of chems."
I remember back when they were saying crossplay was going to be added, it would solve the problem of not being able to hotkey items if i could use keyboard and mouse on console
_may the rads be with you!_
It would be nice to have the ghoul health bar visable to teammates when you're in a team
You can avoid power landing by animation canceling. Holster weapon right before the crash land and it will skip the slam animation, mostly.
It's an easy pass for me. I'll do the quest, possibly turn into a ghoul but revert back right after. Nothing in here that yells" I want that".
Curious, do the feral ghouls recognize the player ghoul as friend or foe?
I'm guessing a junkies build would work like over eaters then if you can't get addicted?
Can't wait to see what they break in game with this content, I've never unsubscribed from anything so fast as I have regarding fo1st and the Bethesda scams.
Do food buffs still work normally as a ghoul?
Do you get the fully fed or thurst bonus?
no
this looks really bad. running slower is a deal breaker
it just makes sense as a ghoul to melee it lore accurate and doesn't make sense to run around shooting as a ghoul it looks Dum it seems like they made it with melee behind it giving us melee folks love
What if, in your mouse software you assign for example keyboard number 2 to your mouse 1 button to rapid press and then but Toxic Goo to the number 2 slot in game. That way every time you shoot/melee you will consume Toxic Goo and wont lose any Glow? 🤔
Seems pretty underwhelming overall.
Does your overeater damage reduction change when you are different % from feral?
no