PeppermintOS: Listens to their Users

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  • There are many linux distro that listen to their users, and PeppermintOS is one of them, this is their 2023 release based on Debian 12, and it incorporates many changes suggested by the user community. So refreshing to see after all that has transpired in the past week. I put it through my usual battery of tests and I see right away I should have kept the root file system at ext4.
    I feel like 2 days is just not enough time to work with this distro and plan to do a more complete review once all of the components (Peppermint mini build, Peppermint Devuan, and Peppermint Server is out.
    The last couple of releases Peppermint has received some criticisms from its users who liked the way version 8 worked so much better.
    It has been said that PeppermintOS started after a night of drinking and discussions of the future of the Linux Desktop. It was conceived to be a social media centric Linux distro.
    After Peppermint 10, and the Peppermint 10 Respin, Peppermint went dark, after the death of its leader Mark Greaves. It stayed dark for 2 years, with many thinking it had all come to an end
    In February 2022, there appeared Peppermint 11, it was completely different than Peppermint 10, Moving from Lubuntu and LXDE to Debian and XFCE. It could not do all the things that Peppermint 10 did. Software development with this much of the architecture is flux takes time to redo what was there, and in the meantime the world moves on, in 2023, software doesn't work the same as it did in 2020.
    Are they done? Software is never done, its a journey not a destination.
    AI Thumbnail: This time its the end of the peppermint sweet logo, large bolts of energy converge on it to vaporize it.
    Contents
    00:00 - Intro
    00:17 - What does Peppermint OS offer?
    01:06 - What's New in PeppermintOS
    04:00 - Differences between 2023 and 11
    06:50 - Install
    08:26 - Brief Walk Through
    12:12 - Benchmarks
    16:43 - Benchmark Summary
    20:14 - Final Thoughts
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  • @TheYoungtrust
    @TheYoungtrust ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Peppermint OS and Linux Mint were the most hassle-free distros I ever tried.

  • @spicynoodle7419
    @spicynoodle7419 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Pepperming was the only Ubuntu distro that didn't cause me massive headaches on distro upgrades (e.g. from 14.04 to 16.04). Regular Ubuntu always broke on me.
    The maintainers were always active in the forums and provided swift and accurate solutions. It's a hidden gem

  • @QuikRay
    @QuikRay ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent Distro as is Sparky.

    • @MsDuketown
      @MsDuketown ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, these small distro's (

  • @TVJAY
    @TVJAY ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for stopping by my test stream this morning.

    • @CyberGizmo
      @CyberGizmo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      welcome and got a chance to see the new studio, looking good!

    • @TVJAY
      @TVJAY ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CyberGizmo thank you

  • @neelsb7889
    @neelsb7889 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. I hope to see the Devuan release soon... and hopefully also a video from you on it ;-)

  • @johnnybigpotato2404
    @johnnybigpotato2404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great information. even better music! :)

  • @guilherme5094
    @guilherme5094 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've used Peppermint for quite some time in the past, it's a good distro and Peppermint without the candy symbol is weird for me.

  • @adjusted-bunny
    @adjusted-bunny ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks DJ Ware!

    • @CyberGizmo
      @CyberGizmo  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome @valentin65

  • @rubanoluis
    @rubanoluis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    peppermint is awesome to in driver detection , i installed in a old laptop using the sis 671/672 chipset (a lot of distros dont recognize this old chipset and you have to create a massive script in order to work )

  • @folksurvival
    @folksurvival ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the benefits of Peppermint over standard Debian with XFCE?

    • @CyberGizmo
      @CyberGizmo  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good Question: "The idea with this ongoing new chapter of Peppermint is to provide choice as well as give the user a starting point where in general the system will work with most hardware, but they also have just the very basic tools so that the user can immediately begin to build the system to their needs. That is the core reason we ship with little to no additional software packages." - quote from website
      PeppermintOS has the ability to make things easier for the less technical user, while still maintaining the ability for more technical users to explore deeper into Linux.
      The main reason PeppermintOS exists is to integrate well with cloud-based and local-based applications all while providing a low overhead footprint and a distro new users wouldnt run screaming from.

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CyberGizmo Thank you for the response.

  • @slcsystems
    @slcsystems 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the video DJ Ware, I cannot understand why they remove the Peppermint Logo, but the rest of the distro looks great. I have a spare pc in my garage and will install it on there.

    • @ericg7490
      @ericg7490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't understand why change the branding either. It has done well with that. I'm not sure that is what Mark Greaves would have wanted.

  • @DoubtingThomas333
    @DoubtingThomas333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just used ventoy to install the 64bit version on my old z3735f atom sbc.

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dropping the candy icon imo is a mistake. It’s immediately identifiable.

  • @ronsingh1090
    @ronsingh1090 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But I always end up using debian

  • @thenoseplays2488
    @thenoseplays2488 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Peppermint was my first real distro I used...and ever since the original lead developer passed away, I have felt like the new team has betrayed the essence of what Peppermint use to be...at least for me.
    It feels like they are openly erasing the past to build something new, and the removal of the old candy icon might be the last straw for me.
    I'm sure this new thing is great for some, and in truth, the removal of the icon is probably fitting. This new thing isn't really the same Peppermint anymore.
    I wish their team the best, but for now, I'm sad to see my favorite disto essentially die a slow death. On the plus side, I have moved on to explore many other distros and am finding many more suited to my needs and preferences.

    • @ericg7490
      @ericg7490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feel the same. You figure out your new distro? I'm a hopper myself but I've had Peppermint OS always installed on one of my partitions.

  • @matix7241
    @matix7241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time watching

    • @CyberGizmo
      @CyberGizmo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the channel, @matix7241

  • @johanb.7869
    @johanb.7869 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not a fan of the new theme, but you can always use Arc dark for instance😉

  • @junming8009
    @junming8009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great release but they disable the os-prober😂

    • @cretsiah2
      @cretsiah2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats a grub + debian 12 issue its in the release notes ... not sure how it affects fresh installs but it appears to mess up upgrades from bullseye as i understood it

  • @user-mr3mf8lo7y
    @user-mr3mf8lo7y ปีที่แล้ว

    I have so much respect about what they are establishing... However, distro planet is extremely fragmented. We all need to unite and put all of the effords into one super distro.

    • @rouchar
      @rouchar ปีที่แล้ว

      Arch

  • @davidwayne9982
    @davidwayne9982 ปีที่แล้ว

    What they need to do is STOP this " upgrading" so often-- once a year or every OTHER year-- like Debian- is PLENTY- This "instant" urge we have caused by microwaves and other tech that supposedly make life better-- is a bunch of BS-- no one NEEDS to upgrade that often.. PERIOD. I LOVE the look of this- and would LOVE to use it-- but I would miss my TILING too much-- my AUTO- tiling with BISMUTH in kde-- or with POP OS shell. I do NOT like key combo tiling- to me that's STUPID.. Do you know of any way to set up Auto-tiling with THIS??

  • @edkalrio
    @edkalrio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't get the point. Stop the fragmentation and use Debian

    • @edkalrio
      @edkalrio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@corporealundead3085 that's the reason we must have big, strong communities manging distros as viable alternative to corporate software. Instead we have hundreds of copypats with no value al all.
      Btw, Rocky and Almalinux should cease their projects and embrace a less hostile environment far away from REHL

    • @grafik0859
      @grafik0859 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edkalrio Yeah I agree with @corporealundead3085 your comment does not make any sense.

    • @leonbishop7404
      @leonbishop7404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also, isnt this precisely the point of open source?

    • @edkalrio
      @edkalrio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@grafik0859 “Fragmentation is Why Desktop Linux Failed”.
      -Linus Torvalds

    • @grafik0859
      @grafik0859 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edkalrio - Stating quotes does not help your argument... Even if it is from Linus.....the point still does not make sense... not in the open-source perspective.

  • @Jopekos
    @Jopekos ปีที่แล้ว

    It's still one of the ugliest distros I've ever seen.

  • @gdotone1
    @gdotone1 ปีที่แล้ว

    linux is just not good.

    • @TheBardicDruid
      @TheBardicDruid ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, you're just not smart enough to use it.

    • @leonbishop7404
      @leonbishop7404 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ...for you

    • @gdotone1
      @gdotone1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leonbishop7404 yes

    • @johanb.7869
      @johanb.7869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But better than Windows😜

    • @CyberGizmo
      @CyberGizmo  ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha good one

  • @OsX86H3AvY
    @OsX86H3AvY ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interested in trying out their server variant...sadly there is still no way to put an ARM version of Linux (just, any of them as i understand) on disused chrome devices and i think that'd really crack the nut that is broad ARM adoption for the desktop apart from RPi...i SO very badly wish someone made that happen but it is beyond my skills atm, seems it just wont happen and thats a shame, especially with all of the ewaste that will be generated in the next two years as schools dump pandemic freakout purchases en masse...anyways yea peppermint is a neat one, im looking for an ubuntu replacement maybe ill have to try this one out again (before i end up landing on regular smegular debian)

    • @CyberGizmo
      @CyberGizmo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The PeppermintOS variant is supporting UEFI-only based systems, which I think is the right direction you are quite right ARM is a maze of boot variants from p-boot, shims, hacks to the firmware (Pi) its a mess. NVIDIA has started to actually create a UEFI/BIOS for their Jetson/Orin boards, yeah get it closer to the way a PC works.

    • @OsX86H3AvY
      @OsX86H3AvY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CyberGizmo well I do hope there's some standardization then if that's the case... specifically for Chromebooks the ewaste is and will continue to be monumental....I'm IT at a school and this year we retired and have to toss 600 of them and it's only of school or about 1500 or so total....I can't even IMAGINE the waste at districts like LA, NYC, Chicago.... admittedly it's not only because of usage it's also a privacy thing but it'd be a good start if we at least had options