Hope you all really enjoy this video, and the opening series of ["Explained" | by Amolistic.] ! I spend tons of time making this video, and it is seriously challenging to document nearly all the perks of this arcane, to properly showcase the true potential of this arcane. If you really like what I do, feel free to like and sub, any kinds of support is greatly appreciated :) ***If there is anything you would like to point out or correct me on something, feel free to comment, will try my best to fit into this pinned comment.*** Note 1: from @TiredDoktor6391 - Melee afflictions takes that damage value of all your procs (existing or applying), multiplies them by their remaining status duration and combines them. Then it will take that number and devided it by the status duration, then applies this proc 6 times. Note 2: from @Karmagasm - (with slight change) if melee attack is a forced form of ragdoll/knockdown, melee affliction will still apply the extra stacks even if the target didn't get the animations to indicate that it was afflicted by those conditionals, ie it still works against overguarded eximus units/demolists/acolytes.
Hello this is an awesome guide on the new melee arcane thank you for your hard work and research. This does now make me ask how this arcane interact with atlas' 1st? Anyway hope you have a wonderful day
My favorite is Sampotes as it does fling +fling + fling. It breaks the game and leaves enemy corpses floating in the air. Edit: Plus saryn toxin lash for millions of damage without roar or any other buff.
Melee Affliction Harmony Heavy Attack with Yareli Sea Snares and Aquablade's Slash procs makes enemies evaporate. The procs from the abilities plus Harmony's innate Heat. Even though Sea Snares isn't procing Melee Afflication, Harmony is still "ragdolling" the target. Fun to watch.
Yes, because it carries over the damage dealt, including the slash proc from aquablades as well, like what I mentioned in the video. I am glad that you are entertained by the result you get. *Ragdoll and knockdown seems to work at all times, regardless of it being applied or not.
Tenet Exec shockwaves can proc the arcane multiple times (force ragdoll) on a single slam. It's insane. Only problem is that the waves cannot proc status by themselves. Works great on a hybrid build with Tennokai, and as hyper Sickening Pulse for some warframe elemental abilities.
I wanted to put this for atlas and his punches but i had this specific weapon for my ember just for the silly ragdoll i guess ill put it there too thanks
I came from the same country that uncle Roger comes from (Malaysia). Malaysians have an extremely identifiable accent (If you hear a lot), due to the culture of Malaysia where you will have Malays, indians, Chinese, and more.
It takes courage to produce content in a language that you are still perfecting, you have very good information and pacing, thank you for showing me the true potential of this arcane!!
One thing that might answer your questions Melee afflictions takes that damage value of all your procs (existing or applying), multiplies them by their remaining status duration and combines them. Then it will take that number and devided it by the status duration, then applies this proc 6 times. This should explain why it will have exponential scaling beacuse everytime it triggers, it does this to all the procs.
@@devar7502 you can get -status duration on rivens; the wiki says that a negative status duration won't apply their DoT/debuff at all, so that probably won't work. Without doing any testing, the farthest you can push this would be getting -99% status duration and using it to dupe electricity procs(which deal a tick of damage when they're applied, instead of having to wait for the next status tick to deal damage). Provided TierdDoktor's formula is accurate, with just the continuous misery mod (+100% status duration to rifles) and no rifle riven, you're looking at 12(6 second duration doubled by continuous misery)/.06(status duration of the melee with -99% status dur)=200x the damage of the base electricity tick. This assumes that the status is still at full duration, which is perhaps a bit impractical, but a more realistic 90% efficiency still allows you to hit 180x the base proc's damage. This won't work with heat as it doesn't deal damage on tick 0(the tick that the status is applied) so with heat, you'd need at least 1s of duration on your melee limiting just how high you can push the numbers. Also, if you theoretically hit the jackpot on a riven that gave -99.99% status duration (provided a duration so low isn't just truncated to flat 0), you'd be dealing 18,000 times the damage of the original proc. I'd like to stress that I have not tested this in game, so all of this could be completely wrong or just impossible to achieve due to something I didn't account for, but if anyone wishes to do some testing, best of luck!
Roar also double dips on DoT effects since it's faction damage. So everytime the arcane applies, the double dip seems to be transfered as well, and since it's a new status effect then the faction damage mod will apply again. That's how I understand it, because it's the only way something can actually scale infinitely. You don't even need Roar or being Rhino basically, you need strong status effects from any weapon (even the melee itself will do) and a faction mod.
new amolistic video dropped, and its 15 minutes long? god damn son we bout to learn a lot aren't we thanks in advance for explaining this arcane, cause its description sounds very unimpressive to a pleb like me
Arcane afflictions made gram prime great again. I've been testing melee afflictions with gram prime using a gas crit status build and it was killing level 200+ SP corrupted enemies with ease. I've found out the best stance for this build was rending crane standing combo since the combo only has 2 inputs with a guaranteed knockdown, it's fast, has a high damage multiplier, and doesn't throw you forward like other heavy blade combos
It should be noted that if your melee attack is a *forced* form of lifted/ragdoll/knockdown melee affliction will still apply the extra stacks even if the target didn't get the animations to indicate that it was afflicted by those conditionals, ie it still works against overguarded eximus units.
Rhino some how became one of the best melee warframe because of those arcane and un-nerf roar. Even some frame intent to focus on melee are not as good as Rhino. Yeah, that is Rhino. Like everything work on him.
Tenet Exec shockwaves can proc the arcane multiple times (force ragdoll) on a single slam. It's insane. Only problem is that the waves cannot proc status by themselves. Works great on a hybrid build with Tennokai, and as hyper Sickening Pulse for some warframe elemental abilities.
Jat kusar breaks this arcane on its own, just basic attacks are making enemies suffer dots that are fatal without combo even built, this arcane is so beyond broken
Melee Duplicate the rarest (until jade shadows) melee arcane is also arguably the worst as it "only" doubles your damage when dealing specifically a yellow crit. While we have absolutely broken arcanes like influence and now this
The double hit can apply orange crits as well, thus you want to yellow crit and that hit to orange crit for max damage, some calculated that the best threshold for it is around the near-middle of 130-150% crit.
does this work with oberons smite or saxum set bonus? thinking there might be some funky interactions here. ooo what about inaros elemental sandstorm with his 4? yo this is fun to tink about. anyway very interesting stuffs ty for explain
@@amolistic_ nice information. Because if i really want my melee do the hardjob, it will be demolish! Demolish before just armor strip and spam spam in one second( burston, toxocyst). And yes, heavy slam is still meta and got buff more and more after dante update. But it is boring as hell
@amolistic_ ty for the reply! I've been utilizing melee afflictions with garuda and sampotes, and this arcane is the most broken thing in the game. I'm hitting 82 mil slash dot (sadly things die too fast and I can't find out the upper limits of dmg)
So you're telling me that using Chroma Toxin aura, with Harmony and Aflictions, and using 5 tau greens for toxin status damage, i can basically oneshot anything at any level?
@molecular_deer I think the Melee attack has to be the thing to apply the knockdown for this arcane to trigger. I'm not at my computer for another 3 hrs. Otherwise, I'd test it. I'll comment back when I get home if no one else has answered for you
@@molecular_deer i spent a few minutes messing with khora. it doesn't look like her abilities proc the extra stacks, only when i use the equipped melee weapon
Hope you all really enjoy this video, and the opening series of ["Explained" | by Amolistic.] !
I spend tons of time making this video, and it is seriously challenging to document nearly all the perks of this arcane, to properly showcase the true potential of this arcane.
If you really like what I do, feel free to like and sub, any kinds of support is greatly appreciated :)
***If there is anything you would like to point out or correct me on something, feel free to comment, will try my best to fit into this pinned comment.***
Note 1: from @TiredDoktor6391 -
Melee afflictions takes that damage value of all your procs (existing or applying), multiplies them by their remaining status duration and combines them.
Then it will take that number and devided it by the status duration, then applies this proc 6 times.
Note 2: from @Karmagasm - (with slight change)
if melee attack is a forced form of ragdoll/knockdown, melee affliction will still apply the extra stacks even if the target didn't get the animations to indicate that it was afflicted by those conditionals, ie it still works against overguarded eximus units/demolists/acolytes.
Hello this is an awesome guide on the new melee arcane thank you for your hard work and research.
This does now make me ask how this arcane interact with atlas' 1st?
Anyway hope you have a wonderful day
try it with new jade meele
Melee Affliction + Harmony scythe + Kullervo = BIG HEAVY ATTACK!
least insane harmony moment
@@amolistic_ what can I say, I like big red numbers.
My favorite is Sampotes as it does fling +fling + fling. It breaks the game and leaves enemy corpses floating in the air.
Edit: Plus saryn toxin lash for millions of damage without roar or any other buff.
@@bobbymoore8030 I might have to try that!
@@ethanemerson4862 Sadly it's not red crits but seeing multiple 2m white hits is still satisfying 😁
Your narration has improved so much, keep it up!
thanks :)
I thought it was AI
@@finishihimTV honestly same, dunno why the blatant lie 😂
@celestialkitsune that is clearly not an AI voice, that's clearly a person who's English is their second language
@@celestialkitsune bro has never heard an asian person speak
Melee Affliction Harmony Heavy Attack with Yareli Sea Snares and Aquablade's Slash procs makes enemies evaporate. The procs from the abilities plus Harmony's innate Heat. Even though Sea Snares isn't procing Melee Afflication, Harmony is still "ragdolling" the target. Fun to watch.
Yes, because it carries over the damage dealt, including the slash proc from aquablades as well, like what I mentioned in the video. I am glad that you are entertained by the result you get.
*Ragdoll and knockdown seems to work at all times, regardless of it being applied or not.
12:07 "just look at this ramping speed. Holy s**t!" XD that had me laughing.
Congratulations on the video great content of explanation.
Tenet Exec shockwaves can proc the arcane multiple times (force ragdoll) on a single slam. It's insane. Only problem is that the waves cannot proc status by themselves. Works great on a hybrid build with Tennokai, and as hyper Sickening Pulse for some warframe elemental abilities.
Very nice! subscribed
ah so thats why my melee was randomly doing 200k plus dot lol
I wanted to put this for atlas and his punches but i had this specific weapon for my ember just for the silly ragdoll i guess ill put it there too thanks
It doesnt work on demolyst :
I feel like i am being given a lecture from my parents that im a disappointment because i am not some big lawyer or doctor.
Hiyaaaah, this not fuiyoh!
Very Malaysian Chinese moment
Why does he sound like uncle Roger
I came from the same country that uncle Roger comes from (Malaysia).
Malaysians have an extremely identifiable accent (If you hear a lot), due to the culture of Malaysia where you will have Malays, indians, Chinese, and more.
@@amolistic_ That is Awesome 😎😎😎👍
This is a troll post, right?
It takes courage to produce content in a language that you are still perfecting, you have very good information and pacing, thank you for showing me the true potential of this arcane!!
Thanks for the words of encouragement, glad you learned something new from this video :)
One thing that might answer your questions
Melee afflictions takes that damage value of all your procs (existing or applying), multiplies them by their remaining status duration and combines them.
Then it will take that number and devided it by the status duration, then applies this proc 6 times.
This should explain why it will have exponential scaling beacuse everytime it triggers, it does this to all the procs.
Is this affected by status duration mods? God, I'm testing this
*Edit: For a second I thought there was a negative status duration
@@devar7502 you can get -status duration on rivens; the wiki says that a negative status duration won't apply their DoT/debuff at all, so that probably won't work. Without doing any testing, the farthest you can push this would be getting -99% status duration and using it to dupe electricity procs(which deal a tick of damage when they're applied, instead of having to wait for the next status tick to deal damage). Provided TierdDoktor's formula is accurate, with just the continuous misery mod (+100% status duration to rifles) and no rifle riven, you're looking at 12(6 second duration doubled by continuous misery)/.06(status duration of the melee with -99% status dur)=200x the damage of the base electricity tick. This assumes that the status is still at full duration, which is perhaps a bit impractical, but a more realistic 90% efficiency still allows you to hit 180x the base proc's damage. This won't work with heat as it doesn't deal damage on tick 0(the tick that the status is applied) so with heat, you'd need at least 1s of duration on your melee limiting just how high you can push the numbers. Also, if you theoretically hit the jackpot on a riven that gave -99.99% status duration (provided a duration so low isn't just truncated to flat 0), you'd be dealing 18,000 times the damage of the original proc.
I'd like to stress that I have not tested this in game, so all of this could be completely wrong or just impossible to achieve due to something I didn't account for, but if anyone wishes to do some testing, best of luck!
doesn't voruna's 2 work the same way with its status spreading?
Roar also double dips on DoT effects since it's faction damage. So everytime the arcane applies, the double dip seems to be transfered as well, and since it's a new status effect then the faction damage mod will apply again. That's how I understand it, because it's the only way something can actually scale infinitely.
You don't even need Roar or being Rhino basically, you need strong status effects from any weapon (even the melee itself will do) and a faction mod.
As cool as this is it’s hard to top influence for me with its rift piercing tech.
Yeah, that's honestly understandable; anything that can pass through rift is just gamebreakingly powerful, regardless of the damage it provides.
wait its WHAT?
influence can do WHAT??
@@MythicqI ye
new amolistic video dropped, and its 15 minutes long? god damn son we bout to learn a lot aren't we
thanks in advance for explaining this arcane, cause its description sounds very unimpressive to a pleb like me
Arcane afflictions made gram prime great again. I've been testing melee afflictions with gram prime using a gas crit status build and it was killing level 200+ SP corrupted enemies with ease. I've found out the best stance for this build was rending crane standing combo since the combo only has 2 inputs with a guaranteed knockdown, it's fast, has a high damage multiplier, and doesn't throw you forward like other heavy blade combos
Wow, that's an incredibly detailed explanation, thank you!
thanks :)
It should be noted that if your melee attack is a *forced* form of lifted/ragdoll/knockdown melee affliction will still apply the extra stacks even if the target didn't get the animations to indicate that it was afflicted by those conditionals, ie it still works against overguarded eximus units.
Ye, I accidentally found it out as well after this video (doing testing), lifted afaik does not work but ragdoll and knockdowns work.
Rhino some how became one of the best melee warframe because of those arcane and un-nerf roar. Even some frame intent to focus on melee are not as good as Rhino. Yeah, that is Rhino. Like everything work on him.
Tenet Exec shockwaves can proc the arcane multiple times (force ragdoll) on a single slam. It's insane. Only problem is that the waves cannot proc status by themselves. Works great on a hybrid build with Tennokai, and as hyper Sickening Pulse for some warframe elemental abilities.
Can lavos aug proc forced status on waves?
@@vitae1342 most likely yes, might be busted
Exec with saryn 3 and this arcane is so stupidly op. I was able to one-shot steel path enemies without any additional mods on the exec
Thank god ppl cream over garbage, maybe electric or influence wont be nerfed to los only.
Good edit, good content, sub from me, expect great things from you 🙏
Ive been thinking about getting this arcane, it looks rather powerful in status builds
Jat kusar breaks this arcane on its own, just basic attacks are making enemies suffer dots that are fatal without combo even built, this arcane is so beyond broken
Gonna use harmony with furis incarnon for big damage
this really made slam meta even more broken than it already is.
Good work good flow and narration love the little camera angle moves , keep going see you at the top
This and voruna is absolutely insane.
Melee Duplicate the rarest (until jade shadows) melee arcane is also arguably the worst as it "only" doubles your damage when dealing specifically a yellow crit.
While we have absolutely broken arcanes like influence and now this
The double hit can apply orange crits as well, thus you want to yellow crit and that hit to orange crit for max damage, some calculated that the best threshold for it is around the near-middle of 130-150% crit.
does this work with oberons smite or saxum set bonus? thinking there might be some funky interactions here. ooo what about inaros elemental sandstorm with his 4? yo this is fun to tink about. anyway very interesting stuffs ty for explain
I don't know, but you could try.
The problem is when i need it to shine, it dont! It happen with demolish and other boss
From what I heard after this video, forced knockdowns seem to have a bug where it will just work even though they can't be knockdown'd.
@@amolistic_ nice information. Because if i really want my melee do the hardjob, it will be demolish! Demolish before just armor strip and spam spam in one second( burston, toxocyst).
And yes, heavy slam is still meta and got buff more and more after dante update. But it is boring as hell
I really hope they clarify the effect instead of...changing it...
cmon man, these videos are going to make DE nerf the arcane. XD I love my harmony+affliction
very real DE moment
Is roar required, or do other faction damage buffs work as well?
11:51 Both bane mods and Roar works.
(bro got caught in 4k for not watching the whole video frfr)
Theres a reason why arca titron in the hands of rhino is my fv combo and main go to
funny hammer go brr
Tekko prime?
Does this only work on rhino? Or can i put faction dmg multipliers on my melee to achieve the same effect
you can put faction mods as well, it still works, though the ramping speed will be different.
@amolistic_ ty for the reply! I've been utilizing melee afflictions with garuda and sampotes, and this arcane is the most broken thing in the game. I'm hitting 82 mil slash dot (sadly things die too fast and I can't find out the upper limits of dmg)
Do you think the 3rd intricacy will be patched out?
I suspect they will, eventually.
Can I ask how you got that simulacrum room? I've never seen it before
from red veil
@@amolistic_ Thanks
I have to see if its possible for excaliburs slash dash can inherit this from stat stick and knock people down
THEEEE SENTINELLL HAMMMERRRRRRRRR
Bro found out
quality of content and information are really good. i appreciated. but what the point of this arcane when we can do just 1 slam kill everything ?
The point of using the arcane is the synergies it allows, those that are impossible without this arcane.
hell yeah, i have been having so much fun with this arcane on the harmony and reaping spiral stance!
I cant use heavy attack because enemies die way to fast with fire procs ;_;
W
So you're telling me that using Chroma Toxin aura, with Harmony and Aflictions, and using 5 tau greens for toxin status damage, i can basically oneshot anything at any level?
You could try, but I suspect that it will take 2 or 3 hits to ramp up the toxin proc for harmony to expedite it and kill any level.
Very good Video, its was very understandable, thanks :)
I like to call this the "Status Potential Energy"
Youre doing good, keep it up
Ty now I get it
I wonder if the exponential scaling is unintended.
Could be.
Does this work with Exodia Epidemic
Should work, it inflicts lifted status.
cool
when uncle roger play Warframe 1000 hours
Me and uncle roger born in the same country, that's prob why Iol (Malaysia)
@@amolistic_ no way?! really? i thought uncle roger is a Singaporean?
dows it work on whipclaw?
Shouldn't be hard for you to try it for yourself. Whipclaw does have a knockback/ragdoll.
@@JCurry1123 i was wondering if it works on enemies CC'ed with her 4th. I didn't farm the arcane yet
@molecular_deer I think the Melee attack has to be the thing to apply the knockdown for this arcane to trigger. I'm not at my computer for another 3 hrs. Otherwise, I'd test it. I'll comment back when I get home if no one else has answered for you
@@JCurry1123 oh ok ty
@@molecular_deer i spent a few minutes messing with khora. it doesn't look like her abilities proc the extra stacks, only when i use the equipped melee weapon
Now imagine you were playing an actual good Frame like Saryn...
If you want I can help you with your videos, especially translating your stuff if you can pay :)
I'm broke lmao but thanks :)