Oh so that's what that copper thingy in the back is for! I still have the 760 Mini and was planning on selling it (cause it's loud and hot) but now you intrigued me to tinker with it a bit.
I have the same sentiment about Louis Rossman. Buildzoid I get because I've been doing this for >decade, but since I dont use Macs Rossman usually loses me after ppbus.
I have a Vega64 FE with a corroded power rail due to leaky watercooling, and a GTX Titan X with a likely blown vcore capacitor. Would you like to have both of them?
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Little of topic, but do you know which chokes are used on the Vega 56 FE card and where i can buy them? They are labeled as 0.19μH 1718AE and i can not find them anywhere. I might have burned the first two chokes viewed from left, which if my guess is right also "disabled" two VRMs. They are just cooled by airflow, because im using a Morpheus II cooler and there is no space for heatsinks where these two chokes sit.( every VRM has a little heatsink though). As dust builded up, the airflow was no longer enough to cool them properly, i guess. Since then the card won't push beyond 1.150v.
If you wanted to go even more overboard with bridging, you could put in one layer of kapton tape, put a layer of copper tape on top, solder jumpers between Vcore and the copper tape at both ends, put another layer of kaptop, another layer of copper, repeat the jumpering with grounds :)
Actually lots of thin wires would probably be better for high frequency, due to the skin effect. So either solder a thin wire to the positive end of every single Vcore MLCC, or use Litz wire.
Flat power bridge in close proximity to the PCB (ground plain) would be the best from an inductance perspective and offer an improvement, partially if your vcore is unstable or still contains high frequency components. Also better for electromagnetic compatibility if your bench is in a more industrial location and suffering unexpected Core instability.
1:33 if you add the same resistance in parallel you already get half the resistance, so that's a big step already, since it must be going like from 0,050 to 0,025 ohms
Drinking game: every time a sentence is interrupted with "... well..." :) (Bonus round: slam a full glass of wine every time you watch a BZ video and the *first* sentence is interrupted with "... well...")
i use these surface mounted copper jumpers at work all the time PCB traces can only be so thick but we mainly use it for 4kw+ supplies or when needing to jump other traces as they are a pain to design cases around if you don't want to use wire you can scrape up the solder mask and fill the newly exposed copper with solder ya know, if your an idiot
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yeah but you are here to give us really bad ideas aren't you ? :D I bet my cpu (3600X) can do 4.500 single core maybe even more, since i've seen single core boosts up to 4.482 with just PBOveride. Userbenchmark scores it at 99% without manual overclock.. just pboveride.... www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22705894
I wonder if decreasing resistance in the ground plane would have any effect, perhaps where compromises have been made to allow for component placement.
Same here brother, or I would have tried it out myself 😂 You do a pretty damn good job soldering some heavy gauge wire tho! I remember 1 card it looked like you soldered some 8awg to the back of it, impressive!
BGA soldering by replacing chips is horrible, just reballing is bad enough, but actually putting the chips on a board? Hell no. However some Portuguese/Mexican/Brazilian/Idontknowbutyougettheidea dudes made their own RTX 2080 Ti Super by soldering on chips from other 'Super' models
You should draw up a schematic for circuit boards with banks of capacitors and the next time Steve goes to China have a bunch made up on the cheap. May even be able to get them done on pink kitty circuit boards 😂
Can you do a video about Gigabyte's Z370M DS3H? That seriously could be a contender for the worst Z370 board on the market. I think this board has worse power phase than some H310 boards.
Great to heare about your mods. Wish to see a BIOS mods or essentialls to start editing and what to expect if at all. Laptops are most lack of computing powerness for a Power efficency state. Wish to have idee how to edit a full BIOS capacity. Making a more desktop and entusiast users happy.
I want to see a 500w overclock on this. Mainly because blue/green silicon fire is beautiful to look at until it turns death black and worse than a tire fire. (I'm just kidding, dont burn down your house lol).
U should try power bridges in sono amps with loud speaker cables. The most effective one I did was between the Amp itself and the first power cables of the house... this can also make the transformers explode bc some cable lengths can make them very hot. Be careful, results can be really unpredictable & punchy & beautiful.
Out of curiosity, could I replace some of the VRM components for more efficient ones (switch Max. 50mA to Max 70mA) to reduce heat without affecting other performance? And would that actually make a difference when overclocking normally (no N2l)? Have you ever tried doing something similar?
Hey Mr. Buildzoid is there any way to detect which mosfet is dead on the power delivery without removing almost all of them? My rx 480 died again and you know its a huge pain removin them and then soldering them back again (ir3553 in question). I made a "precise" ohm meter, something similar for measuring ohms on the speakers, but it didn't work, not precise enough. =(
if you have a lab PSU you can try feed some current from +12V to Vcore/GND to try see which mosfet gets hot. Louis Rossman should have a video showing how to do that.
So, soldering the CPU to the board, huh? I got a free Dell Optiplex 3010 with a damaged socket. Think that can be done? I noticed the motherboard filter caps are on the same side as the CPU, so that may make things difficult.
So what i want to know is: Does this make overclocking more efficient and/or easier for certain C/GPU's Does it's increase power efficiency and if, by what sort of margin? Sorry for the illogical questions, but i'm curious
Coming here cause I had no help on any forums. I have a rx580, xfx it bricked. No display output and the fans don't ramp up upon startup. Yet the heat pipes still get warn and the irritating blue light still comes on as normal, so it is getting power. Any ideas?
I think my 2080ti is dying 🥺🥺 Every other component I can test with a backup seems fine, and only in heavy resource /poorly optimized games will I get stuttering, (get same stuttering even in heaven benchmark) but games like overwatch, tomb raider, just cause 4, play just fine. anyone else experienced a similar issue? I've done many clean installs of windows, making sure drivers are up to date, I even tried older drivers to make sure it wasn't that, same issue with a driver I knew I had no issues at the time.
@IbukiHimari I'll have to check when I get home, more than likely it's installed though, does it matter which build of windows I'm on? Moved from 1903 to 1909 hoping it would fix my issue
@@snactimusmaximus thanks for replying, no it's definitely not thermal throttling, when gaming I set GPU fans to 100% and temps never break 71°c, also it will hitch/stutter even on a cold boot if I go straight to the borderlands 3 benchmark , before anything is warmed up Extra info, bout a month ago I was getting "clock_watchdog_timeout" BSOD constantly even doing nothing, tracked it to auto OC from BIOS of my x570 taichi (it's up to date) , once I set a static clock on CPU I never got another BSOD, just like a week later some games stuttered, gonna try uninstalling the mentioned windows update when I get home
@IbukiHimari oh okay thanks for the info, I'll definitely remove that after work, I got same results with cleared CMOS multiple times, and 2 different BIOS versions, rest of the time PC shows no problems, really hoping it's that damn update, I've done a clean slate multiple times lol, and like I said swapped known working parts
can 16gb of ram give more fps in gaming at 4500mhz than 32gb at 4000 MHz if the latency is the same? I thought more ram was the best setup, then I read somewhere that 16gb of faster ram can be better if your pc isn't using the full 32gb is that true?
@@jayden974I have an 8086k in a asrock z390 phantom gaming itx board currently has 32 gb of 3200mhz cl 14 trident z royal which I think are supposed to be b-dies. I don't even know where to start with learning how to oc ram. or what this rams potential is its just in xmp right now. im thinking about the 32gb 4000mhz cl 19 kit or a 16gb 4500mhz cl 19 kit and which one of these in xmp is best for gaming and my lack of ram overclocking skills
Where or how did you learn all this stuff? I dropped out of Comp Sci because I was tired of teaching my professors everything, but compares to you im a noob. I want to learn this but do not know where to go.
willl u help me fixs my 1060 it has some tell me what tther calld on back of gpu ther littl chips some came offf it still runs but i am shore somthinng is not right to run it like that so i have pics look my mom just diy i did not evin say good buy i am asking for u to email me and fucking help me if u can i will pay u if need be i just need to speek to u
WHY TAKE THE RISK FOR JUST 5-10% MORE ITS JUST LIKE FPS PEOPLE'S EYES ARE NOT DIGITAL SO WHY BOTHER ALL OF IT NOTHIN BUT BULL SHIT AND YES IM A TEK / BUILDER FOR 30 YEARS I BET YOU DONT NO ABOUT THE Y3K BUG EATHER LOL LOL LOL LMFAO
Another classic Buildzoid quote..."I'm just here to give you Really Bad ideas"
There are 2 types of people: Asooos or Asus, glad to see you're an Asus person!
I always thought that it is Eysus
Oh so that's what that copper thingy in the back is for! I still have the 760 Mini and was planning on selling it (cause it's loud and hot) but now you intrigued me to tinker with it a bit.
Why do you watch everyone that i watch? How are you so similar to me? Are you my long lost twin or something?
“don’t do math in youtube videos:
Does math in youtube videos.
I watch these even though I have absolutely no clue what BZ is talking about
I have the same sentiment about Louis Rossman.
Buildzoid I get because I've been doing this for >decade, but since I dont use Macs Rossman usually loses me after ppbus.
Nathan Moore I just want to see schematics for those cards. Wanna try voltage mode on my old R9 270X.
@@MarioAPN I don't have any schematics for anything.
I have a Vega64 FE with a corroded power rail due to leaky watercooling, and a GTX Titan X with a likely blown vcore capacitor. Would you like to have both of them?
uh sure. Send me an email to buildzoid@gmail.com so I can send you the PO box address
Lol who turns down free shit??
@@deminybs tf who says no right.
I mean if he doesn't want them I'm down for it too.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Little of topic, but do you know which chokes are used on the Vega 56 FE card and where i can buy them? They are labeled as 0.19μH 1718AE and i can not find them anywhere. I might have burned the first two chokes viewed from left, which if my guess is right also "disabled" two VRMs. They are just cooled by airflow, because im using a Morpheus II cooler and there is no space for heatsinks where these two chokes sit.( every VRM has a little heatsink though). As dust builded up, the airflow was no longer enough to cool them properly, i guess. Since then the card won't push beyond 1.150v.
If you wanted to go even more overboard with bridging, you could put in one layer of kapton tape, put a layer of copper tape on top, solder jumpers between Vcore and the copper tape at both ends, put another layer of kaptop, another layer of copper, repeat the jumpering with grounds :)
Awesome content! This is probably the most rigorous test of this kind on the internet.
Actually lots of thin wires would probably be better for high frequency, due to the skin effect. So either solder a thin wire to the positive end of every single Vcore MLCC, or use Litz wire.
"I don't go outside"
-Buildzoid *2018 (*according to a mix of numerous bios dates)
This is the first time I've watched one of these videos. This guys a genius.
Flat power bridge in close proximity to the PCB (ground plain) would be the best from an inductance perspective and offer an improvement, partially if your vcore is unstable or still contains high frequency components.
Also better for electromagnetic compatibility if your bench is in a more industrial location and suffering unexpected Core instability.
1:33 if you add the same resistance in parallel you already get half the resistance, so that's a big step already, since it must be going like from 0,050 to 0,025 ohms
Drinking game: every time a sentence is interrupted with "... well..." :)
(Bonus round: slam a full glass of wine every time you watch a BZ video and the *first* sentence is interrupted with "... well...")
For the cpu powerbridge, you can buy on aliexpress cheap xeon cpus (for like 20usd) compatible with lga 1155,56,.....
Like xeon x3430 are 1156 4c/4t for less than 5€ and X3440 4c/8t for less than 7€
i use these surface mounted copper jumpers at work all the time
PCB traces can only be so thick but we mainly use it for 4kw+ supplies or when needing to jump other traces as they are a pain to design cases around
if you don't want to use wire you can scrape up the solder mask and fill the newly exposed copper with solder
ya know, if your an idiot
Smart people need to be our new rock stars. And this mod is sick well explained liked and subed
Hey bullzoid... i was wondering if some day you can do a ryzen master tutorial.
Thank you for the content! Cheers
i second that motion
I just generally don't think OCing CPUs with in OS software is a good idea.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
Yeah but you are here to give us really bad ideas aren't you ? :D
I bet my cpu (3600X) can do 4.500 single core maybe even more, since i've seen single core boosts up to 4.482 with just PBOveride.
Userbenchmark scores it at 99% without manual overclock.. just pboveride.... www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22705894
I wonder if decreasing resistance in the ground plane would have any effect, perhaps where compromises have been made to allow for component placement.
The normal early dcu2 version of 760 had it too, Linus had a vid about it
I'd love to see you do some ram module swaps on cards to evaluate how (deliberately?) bandwidth starved they can be
My BGA skills are basically non existent so there's no way I'm doing that any time soon.
Same here brother, or I would have tried it out myself 😂 You do a pretty damn good job soldering some heavy gauge wire tho! I remember 1 card it looked like you soldered some 8awg to the back of it, impressive!
BGA soldering by replacing chips is horrible, just reballing is bad enough, but actually putting the chips on a board? Hell no. However some Portuguese/Mexican/Brazilian/Idontknowbutyougettheidea dudes made their own RTX 2080 Ti Super by soldering on chips from other 'Super' models
@@minus3dbintheteens60 there's a lot more to bga soldering than "just point the heat at it lol"
Pffft, conductive ink and pencil mod on 7900GT did wonders. Nothing will beat that volt modding.
Hi, I bought a 7970 lightning. Would you like to do a PCB breakdown on that? I can send you photos of the card.
You should draw up a schematic for circuit boards with banks of capacitors and the next time Steve goes to China have a bunch made up on the cheap. May even be able to get them done on pink kitty circuit boards 😂
Can you do a video about Gigabyte's Z370M DS3H?
That seriously could be a contender for the worst Z370 board on the market. I think this board has worse power phase than some H310 boards.
i might have an old gtx 770 laying around, this could be a neat winter break project lol
Great to heare about your mods. Wish to see a BIOS mods or essentialls to start editing and what to expect if at all. Laptops are most lack of computing powerness for a Power efficency state. Wish to have idee how to edit a full BIOS capacity. Making a more desktop and entusiast users happy.
even a farmer can understand what this guys saying! cheer's!
I dont even know what you are talking about, but here i am.
BZ is BZ.
I want to see a 500w overclock on this. Mainly because blue/green silicon fire is beautiful to look at until it turns death black and worse than a tire fire.
(I'm just kidding, dont burn down your house lol).
He could do it outside 😎
U should try power bridges in sono amps with loud speaker cables.
The most effective one I did was between the Amp itself and the first power cables of the house... this can also make the transformers explode bc some
cable lengths can make them very hot. Be careful, results can be really unpredictable & punchy & beautiful.
hey buildzoid, whats ur go to methodology for testing an overclock for everyday use?
If i would be nvidia/amd/intel i would hire you today!
I did something similar to the nForce 2 chipset on a board that I forget back in the day.. was good for something like 10-15fsb.
Wow so basically my second GPU i bought was a power bridged one? interesting i had a DirectCU 760
I had a 7970 that did 1350/1880mhz on water, was more or less performing like a r9 290, but at 400w+ power draw :P
Out of curiosity, could I replace some of the VRM components for more efficient ones (switch Max. 50mA to Max 70mA) to reduce heat without affecting other performance? And would that actually make a difference when overclocking normally (no N2l)? Have you ever tried doing something similar?
The non mini version has it too not only the itx version
Hey Mr. Buildzoid is there any way to detect which mosfet is dead on the power delivery without removing almost all of them? My rx 480 died again and you know its a huge pain removin them and then soldering them back again (ir3553 in question). I made a "precise" ohm meter, something similar for measuring ohms on the speakers, but it didn't work, not precise enough. =(
if you have a lab PSU you can try feed some current from +12V to Vcore/GND to try see which mosfet gets hot. Louis Rossman should have a video showing how to do that.
if capacitors grew on trees you have a room dedicated to farming them
So, soldering the CPU to the board, huh? I got a free Dell Optiplex 3010 with a damaged socket. Think that can be done? I noticed the motherboard filter caps are on the same side as the CPU, so that may make things difficult.
It would be a lot easier and more viable to just solder on a new socket
@@punktkomma9489 yeah, I gathered, but getting a socket may take awhile given I can't get one locally. I have to order it from China.
I think the Asus power bridge was just marketing.
The thumbnail itself is MEME
9:30 will you do it again with a crazy card with tons of wires n hours? See if it works on a newer card
So what i want to know is:
Does this make overclocking more efficient and/or easier for certain C/GPU's
Does it's increase power efficiency and if, by what sort of margin?
Sorry for the illogical questions, but i'm curious
Was the WBOT name MllrKllr? I'm not replaying it. But that would be "Miller Killer" right?
a oc to a i3 8100 would be OG
So would this making pushing the V56 Red Dragon even better?
the VRM on that is basically jammed right up against the core.
I do have asus gtx 950 that have one of those power bridge thing
Do you know where is the temp sensor on this pord?
hi , you know where to find the graphics cards schematic diagram?, especifically XFX RX 460
hey. i got a r9 270x here with a non adjustable voltage controller. what would the best way be to mod it to have adjustable voltages?
I had this exact gpu was amazing at the time! but seemed as though nvidia deliberatly nerfed it as with all 760s
Didnt Zotac do something similar last gen?(gtx 10xx)
nope
Coming here cause I had no help on any forums.
I have a rx580, xfx it bricked. No display output and the fans don't ramp up upon startup. Yet the heat pipes still get warn and the irritating blue light still comes on as normal, so it is getting power.
Any ideas?
As far as I can tell so far there's no board view diagrams. I know I'm getting spoiled over there at Louis rozman group.
I don't have any documentation for any GPUs or motherboards.
I wonder how many ThinkPad users got confused by the title.
But will it have DIRECT POWER text on it? ;)
That's why it wasn't so effective, didn't have enough wank words on it.
Frankenstein wins!
I dont go outside :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD good one me to mate :)
I see botch wires, I hit like.
Why do I belive Mr. Zoid when he claims he never goes outside?
Please Mod the inexpensive EVGA 2060 KO Mr. BuildZoid.
it's 300GBP that's not exactly cheap for a card that I will probably get only 1 or 2 videos out of.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking understood. Thank you for responding. Continue with the great videos.
A Vega nano pcb could be interesting vdroop kinda bad and power plane not super big either
This ''DIRECT POWER'' or rather ''DIRECT MARKETING'' does absolutely nothing, assuming there's nothing behind that shell, like in some Zotac cards.
JESUS TO MUCH BLABLABLA I STOP VIDEO AT 8:04
Benchmarks would be nice..
alll tham littl chips on back zener i for get what ther cald conpasters r bigger
It's Miller killer does username is not that hard stop making things difficult lol. Also he is the KING of Vmods and you could learn from him
I think my 2080ti is dying 🥺🥺
Every other component I can test with a backup seems fine, and only in heavy resource /poorly optimized games will I get stuttering, (get same stuttering even in heaven benchmark) but games like overwatch, tomb raider, just cause 4, play just fine.
anyone else experienced a similar issue?
I've done many clean installs of windows, making sure drivers are up to date, I even tried older drivers to make sure it wasn't that, same issue with a driver I knew I had no issues at the time.
@@ripperino2 just 2 nvme drives, Samsung 970 Evo plus 512GB for boot and Viper 1TB for extra storage.
@IbukiHimari I'll have to check when I get home, more than likely it's installed though, does it matter which build of windows I'm on? Moved from 1903 to 1909 hoping it would fix my issue
Have you monitored to make sure the card isn’t thermal throttling? It doesn’t sound like a ‘failing gpu’ edit: or anything thermal throttling really.
@@snactimusmaximus thanks for replying, no it's definitely not thermal throttling, when gaming I set GPU fans to 100% and temps never break 71°c, also it will hitch/stutter even on a cold boot if I go straight to the borderlands 3 benchmark , before anything is warmed up
Extra info, bout a month ago I was getting "clock_watchdog_timeout" BSOD constantly even doing nothing, tracked it to auto OC from BIOS of my x570 taichi (it's up to date) , once I set a static clock on CPU I never got another BSOD, just like a week later some games stuttered, gonna try uninstalling the mentioned windows update when I get home
@IbukiHimari oh okay thanks for the info, I'll definitely remove that after work, I got same results with cleared CMOS multiple times, and 2 different BIOS versions, rest of the time PC shows no problems, really hoping it's that damn update, I've done a clean slate multiple times lol, and like I said swapped known working parts
I found samsung B die on corsair vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 which is a 3000mhz cl15 kit. sorry for deleting my comment the other day.
Interesting.. all these modding stuff.... using a pencil ...doing this..doing that.. waaw
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Hi
can 16gb of ram give more fps in gaming at 4500mhz than 32gb at 4000 MHz if the latency is the same? I thought more ram was the best setup, then I read somewhere that 16gb of faster ram can be better if your pc isn't using the full 32gb is that true?
@@jayden974I have an 8086k in a asrock z390 phantom gaming itx board currently has 32 gb of 3200mhz cl 14 trident z royal which I think are supposed to be b-dies. I don't even know where to start with learning how to oc ram. or what this rams potential is its just in xmp right now. im thinking about the 32gb 4000mhz cl 19 kit or a 16gb 4500mhz cl 19 kit and which one of these in xmp is best for gaming and my lack of ram overclocking skills
Nsc modz
Where or how did you learn all this stuff? I dropped out of Comp Sci because I was tired of teaching my professors everything, but compares to you im a noob. I want to learn this but do not know where to go.
willl u help me fixs my 1060 it has some tell me what tther calld on back of gpu ther littl chips some came offf it still runs but i am shore somthinng is not right to run it like that so i have pics look my mom just diy i did not evin say good buy i am asking for u to email me and fucking help me if u can i will pay u if need be i just need to speek to u
help me fixs this 1060 it works i need to find name of the cips that fell off
What? lol
WHY TAKE THE RISK FOR JUST 5-10% MORE ITS JUST LIKE FPS PEOPLE'S EYES ARE NOT DIGITAL SO WHY BOTHER ALL OF IT NOTHIN BUT BULL SHIT AND YES IM A TEK / BUILDER FOR 30 YEARS I BET YOU DONT NO ABOUT THE Y3K BUG EATHER LOL LOL LOL LMFAO
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