Back in the '70's my father in law had a Dodge which had a noisy rear end. He subsequently found out later that the dealer repaired it by sticking a rag in the housing!
Dana's are a PITA and time consuming to get perfect..A housing expander is a mandatory tool for the purpose of easy carrier removal and install while setting preload...Since the carrier bearings have the shims between the carrier and bearing, I make "Test" bearings.. Use a flap wheel to enlarge the inner part of the carrier and pinion bearings just enough to slide them on by hand...I also reduce the outer diameter of the rear pinion bearing race to install the shims for adjusting pinion depth..Once correct shims, backlash and pattern is established, Then press on the new bearings and install with pinion seal..Some fine tuning adjustment of backlash may be needed..Takes me about an hour to do a gear change now..
Had one of these , a 4.10 also , from a 69 road runner 440-6 , I put it in a 66 coronet I had with a 69 road runner 383 I built up , guy with the 440-6 road runner didn't like the gas mileage and I traded him my 3,55 eaton , a great deal for me ! Had it for four years and never had a lick of trouble with it , bulletproof !
Nick...I bought a 1984 Dodge 3/4 ton pick up years ago. I was going to change the fluid in the read diff. (Dana 60) and when I took the rear cover off it was packed with mud. Even the axle tubes had mud in them. LOL. You know it never made any noises the whole time I drove it. I did replace the bearings and seals. I used a broom handle and rags to clean the axle tubes. On the truck Dana 60's I always pack the outer axle bearings in red bearing grease as extra protection.
Technical name is Cup & Cone bearings...The 'race' is the cup. The adjustment is called 'preload'. Nothings wakes up a car, like a good ratio in the rear end. 3.73 and up for a muscle car...
Mophorn Differential Housing Spreader for Dana Axles Fits for 30 44 60 70 &80 Series Always worked for me just don't over stress the housing. A must need for reassembly and set up.
This is the second time I have watched this. An easier way to get the carrier out is to use a wrench and socket. Place the wrench on the ring gear bolt at the bottom. Use the socket to turn the pinion gear. The carrier will roll out. Keep in mind to keep the shims for each side separated. This is necessary it you are reinstalling the original carrier assembly for the proper preloading.
I lunched the spider gears in my dana70 posi at the strip in my truck. Then I upgraded to a Dana 80 with an air locker. That moved the problem to snapping the 1.62” diameter axles. Changed to a s135 with a 13” ring gear and finally quit breaking rears. My racer weighed 7200lbs though. 😎
I ordered and installed a Strange Dana 60 in my pro touring 72 Dodge Challenger with disc brakes and a 1350 yoke with a Detroit Tru Trac gear driven differential...expensive yes but bulletproof!!
I was lucky. I had a great auto shop teacher in high school. I still do drum and disk brakes as he taught me. I always wear safety glasses. I can still hear his instructions. He really made an influence on me, he nominated me for industrial arts student of the year and I won that certificate. I knew where he lived and when my son was young and I was teaching him auto mechanics, I drove by to say hi and to show him my son. Sadly, his widow told me he died of cancer years ago. I wish I had visited sooner.....
Wow! Those Dana 60 rear ends were used alot back on the day. I know the sure grip and posi wasn't common but alot of pickup trucks had a Dana 60. I have a 1972 Ford F250 with a Dana 60 - 3.54 gear ratio. Had to replace rear cover because the plug threads pushed out the back of the cover. I did notice the W stamped on the plug. Thankfully, it wasn't difficult to obtain a cover aftermarket as it looks like the basic Dana 60 diff housing remained unchanged for years. BTW here in the US, the bearing itself is called the cone and the race is the cup. Great video and educational.
@@SuperDd40 if the aluminum you're referring to is the rear diff cover its actually stamped steel. It's just so thin (not due to rust but made that way). They punched the plug hole and then threaded the part that was pushed inward. It wasn't a good design because the steel was so thin. And then after tightening the plug a little harder than I should have just pushed the threaded portion through and ripped it. I wanted an original replacement but only saw one in chrome plate. Found a heavier steel cover with Summit and it's been great. Hope you are enjoying that truck. Those 4.10's might not give you very high speeds on the highway if you have stock size tires. :)
@@stephensaasen8589 I'm referring to the new F series truck made from beer can material. Right now i'm restoring the truck so i have a different kind of enjoyment (fixing holes , surface rust, painting the undercarriage...) As for the highway speed it also have a Dough Nash Enterprise overdrive so should be ok. I'll tell you about it in 2 years.
@@SuperDd40 that sounds great. Yeah, I can't believe it either about those new Ford trucks made of aluminum. May not rust so easily but to make them stronger you'd have to make it heavier. Good luck with the '67. Nothing like restoring old iron.
Morning. Got my morning coffee. Now I ready to watch the video. Ford Motor gear and axle in 1967 cut all the dana gears. I should know as i worked in the gear cutting section.
Here in Australia ,a series of ord F100 pickups were sold with Dana 60 rear ends and a 300 Six. i have only ever seen one and it was in a country town wrecking yard . The diff would never wear out with those old sixes...😁
I had a Henrys magnesium Dana 60 with Chrome molly axle tubes on my old race race car, I got it from a guy that kept snapping axles, I put a set of Mark Williams 40 spline gun drilled axles in it and never had an issue with it after that. It was setup with full floating axles it was a nice bit of kit. I replaced a Ford 9" with it that also had full floating axles but only 31 spline axles that had snapped an axle in the previous race.
O M G! I'm in love with another man's car! Nick, check out Jay Leno's 62' 426, wedge, 4 speed, Polara in Red!!!! (That's a mouth full but worth it!) It was just posted. It is one of the first muscle cars. I used to despise Jays collection, but after a few years it's become apparent that he really keeps it alive. The way of the muscle car will never die. T.
I am a retired Industrial Mechanic.Been in a lot of gear boxes.But none of them never smelt as bad as when I used to change my 3:42 Differential on my million km. Silverado.Use to change the gear oil about every 200,000 and did it stink.I believe it was 80w90 weight oil.Yeah Leo put safety Glasses on when using that punch and hammer.Seen a few eye injuries in my 44 years of work.
When I sold my 1968 GTX, the kid that bought it spun the tires and slid into a curb, bending the axle flange. He came back and paid me to replace the axle shaft. I bought the new replacement Dana 60 axle shaft from a Dodge dealer. It had the correct early splines, but it was not thinned in the middle, like the factory installed axle shaft was and it was much heavier. I guess that saved them some machining.
If you ever have problems getting the bearing races out , weld a bead around the center of the race and when it cools , it will come right out . It shrinks the race !
I'm a certified welder of 40 years . I have my own portable welding service for 35 years and most of that has been working on equipment . This technic works 100% of the time . I learned this through trial and error . It doesn't have to be a pretty bead either lol . Stick or wire will work !
It rarely needs a mend It's the legendary Dana 60 rear end Nick is dropping knowledge from practical experience you don't get in college Nick knows every ratio for every model of car This is a 410 ratio once it's done it'll take the new customer far This will suit any E code for tranferring that power to the road Fully ready to go under a hard load Water and oil do not mix It's a sign that says this Dana might need a fix Nick and Leo are not worried because they've got a whole bag of clever tricks Keeping it old school that's what makes Nick's Garage every Monday so very cool
Best way to start a Monday morning off is with a new video from nicks garage thanks for sharing George and great camera work like always George and god bless you guy's
I am in Canada and have never heard a wrench called anything but a wrench or spanner. The only "key" named tool common to this industry is Allen or Hex key. Must be a French or Quebec thing.
Keep this trick I devised years ago for the future when you do carbutator work.. Try this... Heat the plastic tube from the carb cleaner spray with a lighter (about 1/4-1/2 inch from the end. Then pull on each end of the tube to stretch it. This makes the outer/inner tube diameter smaller and more of a pin point. When the melted plastic solidifies, use small wire clippers or nail clippers to snip the tube at the smallest diameter that still provides flow when spraying. The cleaner comes out like a pin point pressure washer and the shrunken plastic tube end fits inside whatever port your spaying thru. You can also do the same to create 90 degree angles in the plastic tube to spray sideways inside long venturi tubes. I used to make/keep custom tubes around for these situations. Hope this makes sense. BTW.... Great videos.
Case spreader is a must in my opinion, did a lot of 60’s with one Makes the job easier and saves a lot of time. Each to his own. My first car was a 69 Dodge Coronet r/t, 440 auto, yellow ,black vinyl top, white interior,console,miss that car lol thanks Nick
Great day, guys!! Another great video from Nick's garage: I like seeing things be disassembled, to learn what's inside and how it does what it does. I got a chuckle from the look on Leo's face after the oil drain pan incident, like, "I hope he's not gonna kill me!" But, Nick seems like a very patient man: you have a fantastic teacher, Leo, and you're an eager student, a combo that's hard to beat!!! Fantastic week to you all, and a happy Thanksgiving as well!!
The Dana 60, now I am on my second one. My first one was a 1966 Plymouth Belvedere ll with the 383 and Torquflite transmission. Now I have a 440 in a 74 Dodge Superior
A little trick...To keep the axle tubes from turning in the case housing we drilled and taped 3 3/8 inch grade 8 bolts fine thread bolts threw the case housing in 3 different spots on each side. Then install bolts and cut to length then use red loctite to hold them in and keep them from leaking gear oil. You can weld the tubes to the case but it is way to easy to warp the tubes. You can use this trick on any rear end. I have seen my share of tubes twisted and its dam near impossible to fix.
always pull the oil plug to check condition of oil with Q-tip or water present if third member was out already. in car once had a diff filled with wood chips for gears were pitted so bad from water contamination from a flood
Nick, I can't believe that you don't have a case spreader. That was a Chrysler special tool. We used it a lot at the Dodge dealership, but mostly on pickups.
I do not have one. But I do not do many rear ends. I know of a shop that does rear ends all day long and they do not have a case spreader. Shame on them.
@@nickpanaritis4122 Like your videos Retired mechanic GM Dealership most of my life. Use to sweep up and clean parts at Mr Norms Grand Spaulding Dodge when I was a youngster. Case spreaders are cheap less than a $100.00 US. Also very important that a dial indicator is used with the spreader. There is a max spread or you can crack the case. That is why you had a hard time pulling the carrier. When you are setting back lash and rotational torque trying to pull the carrier in and out to make the adjustments is very difficult.
Nick:gr8 video and job as usual. Top tip, turn the differential housing with pinion yoke down towards the floor. This way you can pry the gear set out while preventing it from falling out onto the floor and also possibly pinching your fingers. I've done it myself many times before and had no problems in doing it this way. Say hello to Leo and the rest of your staff. Have a gr8 God bless day.
The look he gave after dumping the gear oil was priceless... Great job and keep him employed.. I had gear lube run down my arm into my side doing a trans once.. Nasty.. I once brought in my car to have the pinion seal replaced. About a week later I'm driving and did a shift and there was a huge bang.. Yep they never tightened up the pinion and it cam lose and wrecked a 3:42 Pontiac drop out posi in my station-wagon..
I would never let anyone touch a rear-end unless I knew they were qualified. I hear these stories all the time, and it truly isn't difficult to set one up.
Hello Nick, I'm Viviana Miano, Tommy Mianos wife of 42 years. I'm the girl Tommy built the car that means so much to me. The white, 62' Thunderbird, with a 427", C6 with a B&M shifter system. It runs in the high 11s low 12s in the quarter. I need to speak to you Nick.... It was kind of important to Tommy. The Thunderbirds wings cover the nation. V.V.
Morning Nick, Leo & George. Well that diff didn't look to bad inside and good on the last owner for putting rags inside to protect it from the elements. Nick over here in New Zealand we refer to that spanner you were talking about as a ring & open end and a wrench is what's known as a crescent otherwise all good. Have a great week guys.
They are strong enough for one ton trucks and buggys for rock crawling when used for that they usually have eight lug nuts, wish I had one with the five on four and one half for a B body Mopar to put under my 73 charger, thanks for sharing this information on this differential most people have no idea how hard it is to get all the tolerances just right and how important it is, you really know your business MrNick
@@NicksGarage Good morning George, I'm always ready for another episode of Nick's Garage, which is why I look forward to Monday morning. I really enjoyed this video, it has been a long time since I last worked on a Dana 60. I helped my friend refresh the rear end in his 1970 Cuda 440 6 pack 4-speed. It was getting a little noisy, so we replaced all the bearings, and put everything back together the way it came apart, the gear pattern, and backlash were perfect. I can still smell the gear oil to this day!
Nick at my Grandfather's garage, He had gear oil from the 1920s and 30s made from whale oil. It has an incredibly distinct smell, but was the best gear oil you could get or use.
Thanks for sharing another great video post Nick. I’ve worked on Dana-60’s before. 9”Ford rears too. Both great bulletproof pumpkins. I’ve never heard a “wrench” called a “key”. That’s a new one. God bless and best of luck to you and yours 👍🏼🍀
NICK, I LOVE the smell of gear oil, ATF, paint, silicone, chassis lube, gasoline, diesel fuel, ect. I HATE the smell of perfumes, colongnes, body powders, ect. !
Nicks garage my 1973 D100 225 strong box traded in on 1977 D200 360 1970 X head from Tommy cash & carry new process 4 speed RV Olive street machine don't lead with your chin Ron Williams 90W gear oil Dana 60 4:10 topped off with engine oil on HWY
You can put a wrench on one of the ring gear bolts and turn the pinion flange until the wrench hits the case, then keep turning and use the pinion to push the carrier out. You also don't need to mark both caps. Should be obvious where the unmarked cap goes once the marked cap is installed.
Great video Nick!!! I like how the parts & shims were marked before being dis-assembled... It really helps it to go together properly... Those ring & pinion gears don't seem to look bad at all... I imagine the Differential carrier case, spider gears, spider, side gears & clutch's are all in good shape as well... Will there be an episode on inspecting them too? From what I have heard, the Dana 60's were originally designed for the heavy use of P/U trucks... The 3/4 and 1-ton trucks had the extra load carrying capability by using the 'full floating' hubs & bearing assemblies with 8-lug bolts for the brake drum/rotor & wheels, while the 1/2-ton trucks and muscle cars used the lighter duty 'Semi-floating' type of hubs & bearing assemblies with 5 lug bolts (Ford, Mopar, I-H) or 6 lug bolts (GM) for the brake drums/rotors & wheels... These stout TRUCK rear axles proved to be a very good choice for the high Power & Torque of the muscle cars...
i used a case spread years ago, also rear end shims for the side gears and cupped ones for the spider gears they were select fit .i don't remember if it was a jag an mg or aston ,it was foreign.
Dr. Nick, yes that gear oil stinks!, years back I helped my friend rebuild a DAH- NA 60, was not a easy job , but we did put it back in his 1970 440 cuda, bty I like these type of how to videos, well done George, cheers.
Love old school. Now 67 yrs young I had a 1969 Camaro SS 396 CID 375 HP posi traction 4 speed diff was 4/10 gears. What I wouldn’t do to have her back. Original came as yellow with black wide strips. A ripper.
Hey Nick I know you are busy as two Nicks , but check out Gale Banks vids on differential covers and oil flow and cooling of the differential. Point is, stay with stock cover, or get Bank's cover. No overheating the oil, no aeration either.
Great video! Nick, Consider next time trowing a mag base on and getting a base line for your backlash. Sometimes I even but some marking compound on, put a little residence on that pinion and roll the the ring gear a few times, just so I get a good idea of what to expect. Usually if Im trying to go back together with all the same components. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks Nick I learned alot today from your video thanks for sharing your knowledge it is greatly appreciated and best wishes to you and the crew during the holidays
THE DANA IS A STRONG REAREND. I HAD ONE IN MY 1968 GTX. BUT THE STRONGEST OF ALL REARENDS IS THE FORD 9" AND IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE LIGHTEST. THIS LITTLE KNOWN FACT OF WHAT MAKES THE 9" THE STRONGEST, IS THAT THE RING AND PINION GEARS CONTACT AT 3 POINTS. BUT AS WITH THE DANA AND ALL OTHER REAR ENDS. THE RING AND PINION GEARS CONTACT AT 2 POINTS. THE 9" IS ALSO SUPPORTED AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE PINION, FARTHER INCREASING IT'S STRENGTH. THIS IS THE REASON CURRIE AND STRANGE CAME INTO EXISTENCE. ANOTHER GREAT ADVANTAGE IS THE REMOVABLE CARRIER. YOU CAN SET UP A SET OF GEAR IN NO TIME WITH EASE. LETS SAY YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT GEAR RATIO FOR YOU CAR. IN THE CHEVY RACING CIRCLES EVERYBODY RUNS THE NINE INCH. YOU CAN BORROW YOUR FRIENDS CARRIER WITH A DIFFERENT RATIO AND POP IT IN TO SEE IF THAT RATIO WORKS FOR YOU. ON THE OTHER HAND DOING THIS WITH A DANA IS UNPRACTICAL AND A CHORE TO SET UP GEARS TO FIND THE RIGHT GEAR RATIO THAT WORKS FOR YOU. THE FORD 9" IS EVERYWHERE. EVERY CAR NO MATTER IF IT IS A FORD, CHEVY, TOYOTA, CHRYSLER IN NASCAR USES A FORD 9". EVEN THE MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS USED IN NASCAR ARE FORD TOPLOADERS IN MODERN VERSIONS. THE FORD 9" WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST REAREND EVER DESIGNED AND IT HAS OTHER ADVANTAGES I DIDN'T MENTION HERE.
Dana 60 ,best diff of them all. Unfortunately we never had these in our Australian mopars. We had Borg Warner crap so I built a nine inch for it. Sick of blowing up Borg Warner diffs every week.
Great video, Nick! I have long been a fan of the Dana axles. There's a Dana 44 in the rear of my 79 Jeep CJ5, and a Dana 30 in the front. Such a timeless pieces of engineering artwork. Thanks for doing this great breakdown video!!!!
on stock we found at the drag strip the 10 bolt ss rear end seemed to hold up the best i have had a few of them and never lost one running a bbc . i had one in my 73 ss nova with a 396 tunnel ram and a pro built 400 turbo with a stage 3 shift kit it lasted for 5 years then i sold the car covered in rubber . i have blown a lot of rear ends 12 bolt and 10 bolts but never a ss 10 bolt just like i have never had a 350 turbo hold up most i blow the first pull even pro built ones. all of the shops that talked me into a 350 ended up giving my money back after the third one mite say i am real hard on cars and i don't care how rare it is like my 67 rs ss camaro with matching # 427 in it i hammer it to only thing was my nova still had good factory paint on it and was the model with gauges on the floor
In Australia we call it a spanner or open ender Nick..or a nut f....r because it rounds the nuts of if doesn't fit properly.. good show on the Dana 60 mate
I would have left the bearing race’s in for sand blasting. That way the sand will not contact the bearing recesses. Knock them out after and good to go with new ones.
Open end or box end wrench here. That definitely was water he got out at first. A little condensation through the open vent ? It couldn’t have been in there very long , no staining on the cover or anything. Never mixed with the 90W.
Cover was reinstalled and rags were pushed in the pinion and axle openings to prevent sandblast from entering.
Now I can be LIVE all the time 🤣🤣🤣
What about the open vent hole in the axle tube?
@@55desotomine it'll get the proper attention
@@55desotomine I had a plug installed.
Back in the '70's my father in law had a Dodge which had a noisy rear end. He subsequently found out later that the dealer repaired it by sticking a rag in the housing!
Professor Panaritis, Lecture Hall has started, take notes!
Dana's are a PITA and time consuming to get perfect..A housing expander is a mandatory tool for the purpose of easy carrier removal and install while setting preload...Since the carrier bearings have the shims between the carrier and bearing, I make "Test" bearings.. Use a flap wheel to enlarge the inner part of the carrier and pinion bearings just enough to slide them on by hand...I also reduce the outer diameter of the rear pinion bearing race to install the shims for adjusting pinion depth..Once correct shims, backlash and pattern is established, Then press on the new bearings and install with pinion seal..Some fine tuning adjustment of backlash may be needed..Takes me about an hour to do a gear change now..
Had one of these , a 4.10 also , from a 69 road runner 440-6 , I put it in a 66 coronet I had with a 69 road runner 383 I built up , guy with the 440-6 road runner didn't like the gas mileage and I traded him my 3,55 eaton , a great deal for me ! Had it for four years and never had a lick of trouble with it , bulletproof !
Nick...I bought a 1984 Dodge 3/4 ton pick up years ago. I was going to change the fluid in the read diff. (Dana 60) and when I took the rear cover off it was packed with mud. Even the axle tubes had mud in them. LOL. You know it never made any noises the whole time I drove it. I did replace the bearings and seals. I used a broom handle and rags to clean the axle tubes. On the truck Dana 60's I always pack the outer axle bearings in red bearing grease as extra protection.
Technical name is Cup & Cone bearings...The 'race' is the cup. The adjustment is called 'preload'. Nothings wakes up a car, like a good ratio in the rear end. 3.73 and up for a muscle car...
Mophorn Differential Housing Spreader for Dana Axles Fits for 30 44 60 70 &80 Series Always worked for me just don't over stress the housing. A must need for reassembly and set up.
This is the second time I have watched this. An easier way to get the carrier out is to use a wrench and socket.
Place the wrench on the ring gear bolt at the bottom. Use the socket to turn the pinion gear. The carrier will roll out.
Keep in mind to keep the shims for each side separated. This is necessary it you are reinstalling the original carrier assembly for the proper preloading.
When I owned my '71 Charger R/T 4-speed, I bragged more about its Dana 60 than I did the 440.
I lunched the spider gears in my dana70 posi at the strip in my truck. Then I upgraded to a Dana 80 with an air locker. That moved the problem to snapping the 1.62” diameter axles. Changed to a s135 with a 13” ring gear and finally quit breaking rears. My racer weighed 7200lbs though. 😎
I ordered and installed a Strange Dana 60 in my pro touring 72 Dodge Challenger with disc brakes and a 1350 yoke with a Detroit Tru Trac gear driven differential...expensive yes but bulletproof!!
Nick's the Auto Shop teacher you wish you had in high school.
Agreed
I was lucky. I had a great auto shop teacher in high school. I still do drum and disk brakes as he taught me. I always wear safety glasses. I can still hear his instructions. He really made an influence on me, he nominated me for industrial arts student of the year and I won that certificate. I knew where he lived and when my son was young and I was teaching him auto mechanics, I drove by to say hi and to show him my son. Sadly, his widow told me he died of cancer years ago. I wish I had visited sooner.....
I had a shop teacher just like him but it was for auto body. Great guy as well loved learning all the old school tricks and this was over 30 years ago
Wow! Those Dana 60 rear ends were used alot back on the day. I know the sure grip and posi wasn't common but alot of pickup trucks had a Dana 60. I have a 1972 Ford F250 with a Dana 60 - 3.54 gear ratio. Had to replace rear cover because the plug threads pushed out the back of the cover. I did notice the W stamped on the plug. Thankfully, it wasn't difficult to obtain a cover aftermarket as it looks like the basic Dana 60 diff housing remained unchanged for years. BTW here in the US, the bearing itself is called the cone and the race is the cup. Great video and educational.
1967 F250 here 352FE , C6 trans with a 4.10 Dana 60. Alumunimum suck. ;)
@@SuperDd40 if the aluminum you're referring to is the rear diff cover its actually stamped steel. It's just so thin (not due to rust but made that way). They punched the plug hole and then threaded the part that was pushed inward. It wasn't a good design because the steel was so thin. And then after tightening the plug a little harder than I should have just pushed the threaded portion through and ripped it. I wanted an original replacement but only saw one in chrome plate. Found a heavier steel cover with Summit and it's been great. Hope you are enjoying that truck. Those 4.10's might not give you very high speeds on the highway if you have stock size tires. :)
@@stephensaasen8589 I'm referring to the new F series truck made from beer can material. Right now i'm restoring the truck so i have a different kind of enjoyment (fixing holes , surface rust, painting the undercarriage...) As for the highway speed it also have a Dough Nash Enterprise overdrive so should be ok. I'll tell you about it in 2 years.
@@SuperDd40 that sounds great. Yeah, I can't believe it either about those new Ford trucks made of aluminum. May not rust so easily but to make them stronger you'd have to make it heavier. Good luck with the '67. Nothing like restoring old iron.
Wtf is a ground gear ? Is it Canadian for ring ?
Morning. Got my morning coffee. Now I ready to watch the video. Ford Motor gear and axle in 1967 cut all the dana gears. I should know as i worked in the gear cutting section.
Morning! That is awesome! Thanks for watching and for the memory.
Here in Australia ,a series of ord F100 pickups were sold with Dana 60 rear ends and a 300 Six. i have only ever seen one and it was in a country town wrecking yard . The diff would never wear out with those old sixes...😁
Learn something every time I watch Doctor Nick operate
Thanks for watching.
I had a Henrys magnesium Dana 60 with Chrome molly axle tubes on my old race race car, I got it from a guy that kept snapping axles, I put a set of Mark Williams 40 spline gun drilled axles in it and never had an issue with it after that. It was setup with full floating axles it was a nice bit of kit. I replaced a Ford 9" with it that also had full floating axles but only 31 spline axles that had snapped an axle in the previous race.
I've heard people complain about the weight of the Dana diffs but never hear a complaint about the strength. Well done Nicks Garage crew
Same with Iron Block vs Aluminum Engines .... I'll take the extra weight if it is more durable
as soon as you guys cracked the cover , said to my self if gonna stink like hell
that one reason i hate to work on diffs
Installing a set of 4.30 gears in a ford 8.8 here shortly. Great work Nick and crew.
Sounds great!
O M G!
I'm in love with another man's car!
Nick, check out Jay Leno's 62' 426, wedge, 4 speed, Polara in Red!!!!
(That's a mouth full but worth it!)
It was just posted.
It is one of the first muscle cars.
I used to despise Jays collection, but after a few years it's become apparent that he really keeps it alive.
The way of the muscle car will never die.
T.
I am a retired Industrial Mechanic.Been in a lot of gear boxes.But none of them never smelt as bad as when I used to change my 3:42 Differential on my million km. Silverado.Use to change the gear oil about every 200,000 and did it stink.I believe it was 80w90 weight oil.Yeah Leo put safety Glasses on when using that punch and hammer.Seen a few eye injuries in my 44 years of work.
A Mopar rear end being worked on,two Mopar motors behind and a bb Camaro on the lift. I love this show.
Lots more in the shop.
Thanks for doing the Dana 60-showing my age by bringing back old memories.
When I sold my 1968 GTX, the kid that bought it spun the tires and slid into a curb, bending the axle flange. He came back and paid me to replace the axle shaft. I bought the new replacement Dana 60 axle shaft from a Dodge dealer. It had the correct early splines, but it was not thinned in the middle, like the factory installed axle shaft was and it was much heavier. I guess that saved them some machining.
Hi Nick,
In Australia we call it a spanner. Open ended and ring to be exact.
Cheers,
Jason.
Combination Spanner, open end and ring spanner.
The Ring and pinion and carrier are massive. Wow! Beautiful differential. And anyone who has set one up knows the knowledge required.
Right on. Nothing but beefy parts in this one.
If you ever have problems getting the bearing races out , weld a bead around the center of the race and when it cools , it will come right out . It shrinks the race !
I'm a certified welder of 40 years . I have my own portable welding service for 35 years and most of that has been working on equipment . This technic works 100% of the time . I learned this through trial and error . It doesn't have to be a pretty bead either lol . Stick or wire will work !
Mornin Mr Nick! Have a Great week!! Yea, I spilled a quart of 90 weight gear oil in my Ford Pinto. The nasty smell never went away.
Thanks. You too!
That Leo is a keeper Nick, one day you may be going to HIM for advice!
Nick has a lot of knowledge on those mopars and other brands Gm , Ford's. Nick is a awesome man. Keep up the Good work Nick's Garage.👍
It rarely needs a mend It's the legendary Dana 60 rear end Nick is dropping knowledge from practical experience you don't get in college Nick knows every ratio for every model of car This is a 410 ratio once it's done it'll take the new customer far This will suit any E code for tranferring that power to the road Fully ready to go under a hard load Water and oil do not mix It's a sign that says this Dana might need a fix Nick and Leo are not worried because they've got a whole bag of clever tricks Keeping it old school that's what makes Nick's Garage every Monday so very cool
Roberto, the Dana 60 of Rhymes.
@@NicksGarage Bless your heart Big ups your chest Nick's Garage is the best!
Best way to start a Monday morning off is with a new video from nicks garage thanks for sharing George and great camera work like always George and god bless you guy's
Thanks 👍
Especially nice camera angles and lighting on this video. I like the overhead shots.
Thanks!
Just a little condensation from your Canadian temperature fluctuations
The combination wrench is also called a "spanner" in some parts of the world.
Right on.
It can be called a combination spanner, an open-ended spanner, or a ring spanner. Been using 'em for 40 years on various aircraft in the UK.
I am in Canada and have never heard a wrench called anything but a wrench or spanner. The only "key" named tool common to this industry is Allen or Hex key. Must be a French or Quebec thing.
Keep this trick I devised years ago for the future when you do carbutator work..
Try this... Heat the plastic tube from the carb cleaner spray with a lighter (about 1/4-1/2 inch from the end. Then pull on each end of the tube to stretch it. This makes the outer/inner tube diameter smaller and more of a pin point. When the melted plastic solidifies, use small wire clippers or nail clippers to snip the tube at the smallest diameter that still provides flow when spraying. The cleaner comes out like a pin point pressure washer and the shrunken plastic tube end fits inside whatever port your spaying thru.
You can also do the same to create 90 degree angles in the plastic tube to spray sideways inside long venturi tubes.
I used to make/keep custom tubes around for these situations. Hope this makes sense. BTW.... Great videos.
Case spreader is a must in my opinion, did a lot of 60’s with one
Makes the job easier and saves a lot of time. Each to his own. My first car was a 69 Dodge Coronet r/t, 440 auto, yellow ,black vinyl top, white interior,console,miss that car lol thanks Nick
Great day, guys!! Another great video from Nick's garage: I like seeing things be disassembled, to learn what's inside and how it does what it does. I got a chuckle from the look on Leo's face after the oil drain pan incident, like, "I hope he's not gonna kill me!"
But, Nick seems like a very patient man: you have a fantastic teacher, Leo, and you're an eager student, a combo that's hard to beat!!! Fantastic week to you all, and a happy Thanksgiving as well!!
The Dana 60, now I am on my second one. My first one was a 1966 Plymouth Belvedere ll with the 383 and Torquflite transmission.
Now I have a 440 in a 74 Dodge Superior
I find myself hoping to see a Lemon Twist Charger 500. But actually, anything from Nick's Garage is just fine.
We're hoping to see it very soon too.
@@NicksGarage cant wait to see it finished Nick out in the sun, show winner for sure
Hello, Nick. Richard here. I owned a 95 G.M.C. van. G3500,one ton van, Vandura. It had a Dana 60 rear end
Basically it's a 3/4 ton truck rear end, our 1972 Ford F-250 3/4 Camper Special pick up had this very exact rear end !
I've got one in a half ton 65 GMC v6.
A little trick...To keep the axle tubes from turning in the case housing we drilled and taped 3 3/8 inch grade 8 bolts fine thread bolts threw the case housing in 3 different spots on each side. Then install bolts and cut to length then use red loctite to hold them in and keep them from leaking gear oil. You can weld the tubes to the case but it is way to easy to warp the tubes. You can use this trick on any rear end. I have seen my share of tubes twisted and its dam near impossible to fix.
Yea l was wondering about sand getting inside....But l see where you reinstalled the cover....Thanks Nick Leo and George...!
always pull the oil plug to check condition of oil with Q-tip or water present if third member was out already. in car once had a diff filled with wood chips for gears were pitted so bad from water contamination from a flood
Nick, I can't believe that you don't have a case spreader. That was a Chrysler special tool. We used it a lot at the Dodge dealership, but mostly on pickups.
I do not have one. But I do not do many rear ends. I know of a shop that does rear ends all day long and they do not have a case spreader. Shame on them.
@@nickpanaritis4122 Like your videos
Retired mechanic GM Dealership most of my life. Use to sweep up and clean parts at Mr Norms Grand Spaulding Dodge when I was a youngster. Case spreaders are cheap less than a $100.00 US. Also very important that a dial indicator is used with the spreader. There is a max spread or you can crack the case. That is why you had a hard time pulling the carrier. When you are setting back lash and rotational torque trying to pull the carrier in and out to make the adjustments is very difficult.
@@backnine . Good point.
Nick:gr8 video and job as usual. Top tip, turn the differential housing with pinion yoke down towards the floor. This way you can pry the gear set out while preventing it from falling out onto the floor and also possibly pinching your fingers. I've done it myself many times before and had no problems in doing it this way. Say hello to Leo and the rest of your staff. Have a gr8 God bless day.
Good idea. I used the stand that I had for diff display. Need to fabricate the stand to turn over.
You need to use a case spreader for disassembly and reassembly.
One of the best street rear ends from the era, they would take quite a beating and come back for more
The look he gave after dumping the gear oil was priceless... Great job and keep him employed.. I had gear lube run down my arm into my side doing a trans once.. Nasty.. I once brought in my car to have the pinion seal replaced. About a week later I'm driving and did a shift and there was a huge bang.. Yep they never tightened up the pinion and it cam lose and wrecked a 3:42 Pontiac drop out posi in my station-wagon..
I would never let anyone touch a rear-end unless I knew they were qualified. I hear these stories all the time, and it truly isn't difficult to set one up.
the look of FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUDGE
Nick please make another video of over hauling the sure grip member I would really enjoy seeing this
Interesting idea.
Hello Nick,
I'm Viviana Miano,
Tommy Mianos wife of 42 years.
I'm the girl Tommy built the car that means so much to me.
The white, 62' Thunderbird, with a 427", C6 with a B&M shifter system.
It runs in the high 11s low 12s in the quarter.
I need to speak to you Nick....
It was kind of important to Tommy.
The Thunderbirds wings cover the nation.
V.V.
Viviana, of course. Please call the shop. 450-936-8100
Morning Nick, Leo & George. Well that diff didn't look to bad inside and good on the last owner for putting rags inside to protect it from the elements. Nick over here in New Zealand we refer to that spanner you were talking about as a ring & open end and a wrench is what's known as a crescent otherwise all good. Have a great week guys.
Nick, you always play with my favorite toys!
The way of the muscle car will never die.
T.
Thanks for playing with us, Tom.
Great Monday morning at Nick's Garage! Hope all of you have a great week! Bill from Linglestown Pennsylvania
Nick I thumbs up you twice everytime on my phone and my firestick
Thanks Darren.
They are strong enough for one ton trucks and buggys for rock crawling when used for that they usually have eight lug nuts, wish I had one with the five on four and one half for a B body Mopar to put under my 73 charger, thanks for sharing this information on this differential most people have no idea how hard it is to get all the tolerances just right and how important it is, you really know your business MrNick
Good morning Nick, A good way to start a Monday, with a little MOPAR to make things better..
Good morning, sir. Thanks again for joining us. Your timing is always impeccable!
good morning eugene
@@NicksGarage Good morning George, I'm always ready for another episode of Nick's Garage, which is why I look forward to Monday morning. I really enjoyed this video, it has been a long time since I last worked on a Dana 60. I helped my friend refresh the rear end in his 1970 Cuda 440 6 pack 4-speed. It was getting a little noisy, so we replaced all the bearings, and put everything back together the way it came apart, the gear pattern, and backlash were perfect. I can still smell the gear oil to this day!
@@danohstoolbox Good morning Danoh, I hope everything is going good for you, all is well here in Texas.
I was hoping to see your beauty, but alas, it's Dana time.
Nick at my Grandfather's garage, He had gear oil from the 1920s and 30s made from whale oil. It has an incredibly distinct smell, but was the best gear oil you could get or use.
Thanks for sharing another great video post Nick. I’ve worked on Dana-60’s before. 9”Ford rears too. Both great bulletproof pumpkins. I’ve never heard a “wrench” called a “key”. That’s a new one. God bless and best of luck to you and yours 👍🏼🍀
NICK,
I LOVE the smell of gear oil, ATF, paint, silicone, chassis lube, gasoline, diesel fuel, ect.
I HATE the smell of perfumes, colongnes, body powders, ect.
!
Thanks guys for another informative video. I always learn something new. Now time for some coffee in my Nick's Garage mug!
Nicks garage my 1973 D100 225 strong box traded in on 1977 D200 360 1970 X head from Tommy cash & carry new process 4 speed RV Olive street machine don't lead with your chin Ron Williams 90W gear oil Dana 60 4:10 topped off with engine oil on HWY
You can put a wrench on one of the ring gear bolts and turn the pinion flange until the wrench hits the case, then keep turning and use the pinion to push the carrier out. You also don't need to mark both caps. Should be obvious where the unmarked cap goes once the marked cap is installed.
Great video Nick!!! I like how the parts & shims were marked before being dis-assembled... It really helps it to go together properly... Those ring & pinion gears don't seem to look bad at all... I imagine the Differential carrier case, spider gears, spider, side gears & clutch's are all in good shape as well... Will there be an episode on inspecting them too? From what I have heard, the Dana 60's were originally designed for the heavy use of P/U trucks... The 3/4 and 1-ton trucks had the extra load carrying capability by using the 'full floating' hubs & bearing assemblies with 8-lug bolts for the brake drum/rotor & wheels, while the 1/2-ton trucks and muscle cars used the lighter duty 'Semi-floating' type of hubs & bearing assemblies with 5 lug bolts (Ford, Mopar, I-H) or 6 lug bolts (GM) for the brake drums/rotors & wheels... These stout TRUCK rear axles proved to be a very good choice for the high Power & Torque of the muscle cars...
Nick, your the master! I put D60s out of a 79 F350 in my 81 Cherokee and had to use a case spreader to pull the ring gear carriers out. Bravo!
i used a case spread years ago, also rear end shims for the side gears and cupped ones for the spider gears they were select fit .i don't remember if it was a jag an mg or aston ,it was foreign.
Dr. Nick, yes that gear oil stinks!, years back I helped my friend rebuild a DAH- NA 60, was not a easy job , but we did put it back in his 1970 440 cuda, bty I like these type of how to videos, well done George, cheers.
I'm a Chev guy. Not sure why I just watched a tear down video on a Mopar rear diff, but I did!
Legend has it that young man is still removing that pinion race…….
good morning nick snow day here today its that time of year have a great week
Spring is coming!
Love old school. Now 67 yrs young I had a 1969 Camaro SS 396 CID 375 HP posi traction 4 speed diff was 4/10 gears. What I wouldn’t do to have her back. Original came as yellow with black wide strips. A ripper.
Nice.
دائما مع الجديد شكرا يا خبيرعلى كل هذه التوضحات القيمه
In Britain a key is called a "spanner".
Hey Nick I know you are busy as two Nicks , but check out Gale Banks vids on differential covers and oil flow and cooling of the differential. Point is, stay with stock cover, or get Bank's cover. No overheating the oil, no aeration either.
Nick always showing us the goods Cant wit for Eugene's Charger update !
Us too!!
Gear oil on Nicks boot
- YOU’RE FIRED!
Nick ... just got me a High Definition TV and MAN ITS LIKE ACTUALLY BEING THERE!!!!
Nice!
@@NicksGarage it's like I'm ACTUALLY THERE
@@NicksGarage can't wait to see how it does on Friday
@@NicksGarage 50 inch Diagonal High Definition TV
Might not be quite as crisp with the live broadcast.. but we will do our best.
Great video!
Nick,
Consider next time trowing a mag base on and getting a base line for your backlash.
Sometimes I even but some marking compound on, put a little residence on that pinion and roll the the ring gear a few times, just so I get a good idea of what to expect.
Usually if Im trying to go back together with all the same components.
Keep up the great work!!
I love the smell of gear oil in the morning!
Putting one of these in my 87 Monte Carlo!
Thanks Nick I learned alot today from your video thanks for sharing your knowledge it is greatly appreciated and best wishes to you and the crew during the holidays
Thank you!
As you were taking the diff cover off my nose was already wrinkling up! I remember that smell well. Thanks for the great videos
Frigging awesome! Love it! Don't let it go to your head though!
That's such a better setup than ford or GM where the axle bearings eat up the axles. Nice job you guys!!!
8 and 9 inch Ford have sealed pressed bearings
@@hitekbigmek I’m referring to the 8.8’s and smaller which are in most F150’s and passenger cars
13:30 - In the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand spanner is the standard term. 😎
Now I know. Thanks.
good morning nick and George and staff hope all is good for you 👍🇨🇦
Good morning Danoh! Thanks for joining us. ☀️
THE DANA IS A STRONG REAREND. I HAD ONE IN MY 1968 GTX. BUT THE STRONGEST OF ALL REARENDS IS THE FORD 9" AND IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE LIGHTEST. THIS LITTLE KNOWN FACT OF WHAT MAKES THE 9" THE STRONGEST, IS THAT THE RING AND PINION GEARS CONTACT AT 3 POINTS. BUT AS WITH THE DANA AND ALL OTHER REAR ENDS. THE RING AND PINION GEARS CONTACT AT 2 POINTS. THE 9" IS ALSO SUPPORTED AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE PINION, FARTHER INCREASING IT'S STRENGTH. THIS IS THE REASON CURRIE AND STRANGE CAME INTO EXISTENCE. ANOTHER GREAT ADVANTAGE IS THE REMOVABLE CARRIER. YOU CAN SET UP A SET OF GEAR IN NO TIME WITH EASE. LETS SAY YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT GEAR RATIO FOR YOU CAR. IN THE CHEVY RACING CIRCLES EVERYBODY RUNS THE NINE INCH. YOU CAN BORROW YOUR FRIENDS CARRIER WITH A DIFFERENT RATIO AND POP IT IN TO SEE IF THAT RATIO WORKS FOR YOU. ON THE OTHER HAND DOING THIS WITH A DANA IS UNPRACTICAL AND A CHORE TO SET UP GEARS TO FIND THE RIGHT GEAR RATIO THAT WORKS FOR YOU. THE FORD 9" IS EVERYWHERE. EVERY CAR NO MATTER IF IT IS A FORD, CHEVY, TOYOTA, CHRYSLER IN NASCAR USES A FORD 9". EVEN THE MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS USED IN NASCAR ARE FORD TOPLOADERS IN MODERN VERSIONS. THE FORD 9" WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST REAREND EVER DESIGNED AND IT HAS OTHER ADVANTAGES I DIDN'T MENTION HERE.
That shop is looking empty. Like you’re making room for something :) can’t wait for that charger!!!!
Dana 60 ,best diff of them all. Unfortunately we never had these in our Australian mopars. We had Borg Warner crap so I built a nine inch for it. Sick of blowing up Borg Warner diffs every week.
Looked clean already.
Leo needs a race punch that is flat on the ends I have a Matco Tools race punch which works great
Great show Nick as usual,some of it I know some I don't,great source of info guys thanks 😎
Great video, Nick! I have long been a fan of the Dana axles. There's a Dana 44 in the rear of my 79 Jeep CJ5, and a Dana 30 in the front. Such a timeless pieces of engineering artwork. Thanks for doing this great breakdown video!!!!
Very cool!
Does Nick mind if fans drop in to say hi?Huge fans from Woodstock Ontario,Keep up the great work guys.
We love to meet viewers. Just be warned the place can be very busy sometimes.
on stock we found at the drag strip the 10 bolt ss rear end seemed to hold up the best i have had a few of them and never lost one running a bbc . i had one in my 73 ss nova with a 396 tunnel ram and a pro built 400 turbo with a stage 3 shift kit it lasted for 5 years then i sold the car covered in rubber . i have blown a lot of rear ends 12 bolt and 10 bolts but never a ss 10 bolt just like i have never had a 350 turbo hold up most i blow the first pull even pro built ones. all of the shops that talked me into a 350 ended up giving my money back after the third one mite say i am real hard on cars and i don't care how rare it is like my 67 rs ss camaro with matching # 427 in it i hammer it to only thing was my nova still had good factory paint on it and was the model with gauges on the floor
In Australia we call it a spanner or open ender Nick..or a nut f....r because it rounds the nuts of if doesn't fit properly.. good show on the Dana 60 mate
Dana Axle Corp was in Janesville, WI back in the day 😃 I can almost smell the hypoid gear lube.
Love these tear down videos. Full of tips from Nick Thank You
I would have left the bearing race’s in for sand blasting. That way the sand will not contact the bearing recesses. Knock them out after and good to go with new ones.
Yep, If you damage that surface you are screwed.
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Open end or box end wrench here.
That definitely was water he got out at first. A little condensation through the open vent ? It couldn’t have been in there very long , no staining on the cover or anything. Never mixed with the 90W.