Very² true indeed. I am skating on two different skate, K2 Uptown 80mm and PS Swell 100mm. There is a large difference. Long distance (20km+) I will skate using the 100mm skate. If skating in skatepark or indoor, I will go for my 80mm skate.
Enjoyed your take on this. I personally have a contrasting opinion to yours. I think that 80 mm wheels are the most overrated and offer the least utility. They are also typically set up on very short frames which for most people is unstable and doesn't allow them to really learn and execute proper technique to skate longer, faster and smoother. Regardless, keep up the great content.
Thank you for your comment and valuable input! Great points! At the end of the day personal preference always comes down to what suits your skating style, ability and needs best. My TH-cam inexperience has me speaking to an audience who are in exactly the same place I am in skating…your comment has made me realize this is something I need to consider before sitting down to film. Thank you.
@@Will-tm5bjI have a pair of FR1’s on the way (sz 9), and plan to try the 80’s for a bit before framing up to a 4x90/ 3x100 or 110. Looking forward to the experience!
@kyleheron38 i love them. Now that ive been on them more im a little better as I go. I'd still like to try a different set up at some point. I need to be able to stop better before I go faster though. I have plenty of gas, the breaking is my problem
How are you gonna say that 80mm wheels are just as fast but you get a better workout on them? I will also disagree with 80's being safer for the same reason they require different muscles - the frame length of 4x80 is quite short and requires the skater to compensate with more stabilization effort. 4x90mm frames offer a longer wheelbase which in most cases is safer due to the enhanced stability. Lastly, have you ever tried a rockered frame? You might appreciate the agility and your opinion of larger wheels might change
You’re making one of the best decisions of your life. I got back into it at 37 and now at 42 (when I watch what I eat) I feel fitter and stronger than I did at 25 when used to run all the time. In-line skating is the best all-around cardio workout imo. Very happy to hear the advice is useful! I wasn’t as smart as you…I didn’t watch videos or ask for advice I just wung it and made all kinds of mistake and wasted a lot of money on bogus skates. You live you learn tho! Have an awesome night REX
Same here. I skated in my teens. I’m in my 40s now and started skating a few weeks ago. I just learned how to skate backwards today. I forgot how fun roller skating was until my kids asked me to go roller skating with them. I like 80mm as it’s very comfortable to control for beginners. For competitive skating, bigger wheels will make a difference, but for beginners and fitness purpose, 80mm is good enough for me.
Thanks for your comment. When I was a beginner I found 80's to be the most forgiving, and because they are so cheap I could replace them often when I made rookie mistakes like skating over gravel and crap like that and ruined them 😭. Everyone has their own experience and opinion tho! Thanks again
There are some benefits to the bigger wheels though. For one, they are good for rough roads and trails. I notice I don't have to worry about hitting small stones as much on bigger diameter wheels compared to my smaller wheeled skates.
Cheers for the video! I'm new and about to get my first skates to cruise around my city Adelaide, Australia - It is a mix of smooth surfaces and bumpier surfaces (light ashphalt and paving) with some long stretches and many short stretches with corners. I have a decade experience in urban unicycling and some pennyboarding. I hear 80mm is good for beginners. My primary goal is to cruise and coast (not workout) long stretches but when needed, also to be able to turn corners, stop/start suddenly, and glide over paving. Which wheel diameter and firmness would you suggest?
For your very first pair you can't go wrong with 80mm 82a, they are the best all around to learn on. Starting on 4x100mm 82a is the easiest, most comfortable most forgiving way to go. And they are still fun to skate years and years later, I still use mine. They aren't as fast as my other ones but I think you get the point. They're plenty fast for beginners, and I can still cruise up to 17kph in 80mm 4x100mm without too much work. If you love inline skating, once you're super comfortable on your skates get a second pair to go fast on. 3x100mm or 4x100mm depending on where you're skating, 85a hardness is what I like (for going fast). I've had some good wipe outs at speed on those tho so keep that in mind! Have never fallen on my 80mm 4x100. Hope that helps! Happy skating friend!
I purchased K2 VO2 S 90 and skated couple of days on it. For some background, I’ve skated on 80mm and 100mm. I’m loving the 90mm and now is my preferred wheel size.
Nice video, Dude! You make some nice points here. I’m still very much at home on a flat 4x80; it’s agile, quick, playful, you get a better workout, and it’s 100% the best place to start for beginners. It took me a while to do it, but I have now gravitated to a rockered 4x90, and there are a few things I like about having that slightly larger wheel. I do personally feel the ride is a bit smoother, especially over the rough stuff I tend to roll on. They carry a little extra speed for longer, which is great when I’m cruising a city, but the biggest benefit for me, and it’s an obvious one, is that they last longer. The issue with my 80s is that they don’t stay 80s for very long. Having that extra 10mm just means I don’t need to think about swapping them out quite as often.
Thanks man! That is a great point you make about 90 lasting longer. I think for the same price tho, 100 make a little more sense then. I’ve never seen 90mm replacement wheels cost less than 100mm. To each their own though, I really appreciate your thoughtful well written logical comment and I’m sure more people agree with you than me! You make excellent points as well! Have a good one friend
Thanks for the video dude. I'd also like to offer a contrarian opinion, but as a complete beginner! I'm 6'1" with a size 10 (UK) foot, and trying to learn on a 243mm frame was driving me absolutely up the wall as I was always having those backwards instability moments. I've literally just come off my first skate with an Endless 90 frame and I'm shocked at the difference in longitudinal stability. Learning feels fun, not a chore! So I gotta say, definitely think there is room for 90s, don't count em out!
I noticed that when I tried 100mm my ankles seemed to pronate more and I skated on 100mm, kicked my frames out to compensate for my pronation but the pain set in. I went back to 90mm and 90mm seemed to be my sweet spot. Eventually I went back to rockered 80mm. Rockered 80mm for me are my go-to setup for cardio, dance and jam. It just seems to work for me. I don't think I'll ever go back to flat-flat feesl un-natural.
I personally dont think its too big of a deal to swap wheels if tiu dont skate all the time. I think getting a skate that takes 90s is better because you can always put 80s on them. That's not always true the other way around.
Hi, i love my 90 mm wich are way faster then 80mm i am a skating coach i have all of them:80 mm,90 mm, 110mm, 125mm, its all about your level of training folks😉.But i respect all people opinions! Like and share people!
90s are worth the price (not that much more if you’re buying quality 80/84/90mm wheels) if you’re spending any time on rougher surfaces like older asphalt. I’ll never forget back 80s where I skate.
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer lol. I guess no facts can interfere with some under-informed opinions! One size never fits all, no matter how much you wish to distill the world down into a single limited imagination.
Two days till Pilot Airbasil changes his name to TestPilot Airbasil and takes off on his new 100's!! Brother, not only did you get the 100mm...you got them on the fastest skate frame with the fastest bearings I've ever used...ilq-9's are like lighting. You're going to FLY!!!! So excited for you. Get a good helmet!!!!
@@Airline_Pilot yes, for sure. I still stand by that. Of course it’s nice to be the fastest and be #1 on every Strava segment with V02 s100 skates, but at the end of the day that’s why I still skate 80mm too, because I want to stay in shape and be healthy and strong that’s always #1. I love your goals man. Train hard and you will achieve them!!!!
Dammmn bro. You changed my mind. Blading since I was a kid, started on 80s back in the day, followed the larger wheel size hype train.. This makes sense. Switching back and gonna remind myself what the Real Burn was. Respect!
Theyre ok. Some people think they will last longer than 80mm, that's the main advantage. Replacement 84mm arent worth the extra cost but you can just use 80mm replacement wheels. Hope that helps!
Yo mate i saw all your K2 Boa videos thanks a lot for the infos. Want to get one of those for the frame looking is so awesome OMG, but i like to freestyle, going backwards, do turnings, some jumps, you know have fun around the city im newbie so nothing too badass. With the 90mm version you think ill be able to do like i mentioned ? Also i thought to get the 100mm version and place 80/84mm to go freestyle and when necessary i can swap fornthe original 100mm to go faaaast and far, what are your thoughts about it ? Thank you 😊
Hey bro! I wish I could help more with the trick stuff but I really only know about fitness skating, 100mm are great for going fast but I think (but I’m not sure) you want smaller wheels for skating backwards and doing extreme stunts and tricks and stuff
I really wasn't sure if i shoud get 80 or 90mm wheels, but now I'm sure I'll go with the 80's. They'll be a nice 35th b-day present to myself. It's been 20 years since I last skated, but I'm exited to learn how to skate again. Would Impala's be any good for beginners?
I haven’t tried impalas but I did just google them. My honest impression is that you would be better off trying out a rollerblade Zetra blade or the macro blade 80. Or something similar from K2. That said I’m basing that gist off looks alone and judging a book by its cover. You really can’t go wrong with the fitness skates from rollerblade or k2 they are affordable they’re comfortable and they’ve lasted me for half a decade and I have definitely abused them.
@@HolisticJay_18 happy to help! And happy birthday to you (when the day arrives). Best present. I rediscovered in-line skating around 35/36 too, best money best decision ever fitness wise. Hope you have the same experience!
I'm a beginner living in a poor european country and looking to buy a new 4wheel hard boot skate, we don't have those smooth roads I see in most videos, so I was thinking maybe 90 would be a nice compromise for having the stability of a 4wheel skate and the smoother ride for our roads? 100s I think are definitely an overkill for me as a beginner.
@@PotatoTroll if its between 90mm and 100mm then yes, absolutely I would pick 100mm even for a beginner. There is no situation ever where I would recommend 90mm wheels. Having used all three sizes I can say with complete confidence 90mm is a bogus. Many people start out on 100mm. It’s not ideal but given your circumstances and needs I would say it’s your best bet. 90mm replacement wheels are expensive and hard to find (quality ones). They are not a popular size because they’re not as good or common.
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer Thanks. Any reason why u prefer soft boots? Most ppl recommend hard boots for beginners, I have an old pair of Fila fitness skates and I can't say I like them, my feet are really unstable in them, that's why I'm looking into buying a new pair of better quality hard boots. Maybe an idea for a new video to explain your preference on this.
@@PotatoTroll that’s a brilliant suggestion, thank you! Personally I only skate for fitness and training. Hard boots cause blister’s because your feet get sweaty and hot when you skate for a long time in them. Soft boots are much cool and more comfortable. Fila skates are fairly low quality so they probably leave a lot to be desired. K2 and rollerblade both make inexpensive soft boot skates. The extra rigidity and support a hard boot gives is only necessary if you’re jumping around and doing tricks imo.
Thanks! Question. Is 72mm any good. I went to the store and looked at skates. The 80mms just seems a little big for me. Can i buy a 80mm slate and later just change the wheels. First skate since i was a youngster.
Good question! Truthfully I've never skated 72mm, that's more of a inline hockey wheel size for playing hockey or some trick skates. They will be very stable and safe to learn on but very slow for long fitness skating. Yes you can for sure buy 80mm skates with frames for 80mm wheels and chuck 72mm wheels on there to learn with. Then when you're comfortable switch back to 80mm. Hope that helps! Happy skating
That is a great question! I wish dude, sorry, I haven't used any with laterally adjustable wheel frame so I can't make a qualified recommendation. Funny you mention this, I pronate slightly as well so if I skate over 2 hours my knees start to bug me... solution is to adjust the frames like you are wanting to do...so I'm looking for the same skates as you are right now!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer After extensive research, I've decided to try the Powerslide Trinity X Mount skates, which are said to offer a 7mm lateral adjustment. Proskaterplace in Toronto is currently offering some great deals-I'm getting mine at a 50% discount. I've chosen the Powerslide Next 80 model (4x80) for my purchase. One of the Trinity system's key benefits is that it allows your feet to be positioned closer to the ground compared to other frame systems, especially with 80mm wheels. This feature is particularly advantageous, although I have several K2 100mm skates, I've struggled with maneuvers as a beginner after 10 months of casual use. Additionally, from my experience as a former NCAA runner now dealing with knee issues, it's important to understand that knee pronation can be somewhat beneficial. It acts as a shock absorber, reducing peak force on the articular cartilage, especially the medial surface. By limiting pronation, you may increase the forces exerted on the articular surfaces, potentially accelerating degenerative changes or causing acute damage. Thus, a degree of knee pronation might be the lesser of two evils.
I have 80mm currently. I have the Endless 90 frames and 90mm wheels on tap. I also have the 110mm wheels on tap. Im going to try them all! For me, I do agree this is about fitness, but what about rough terrain? In my area the bike paths have cracks, crask with grass, and debri. I find my 80s (fr intuition boots) get hung up really easy. Im hoping my 90s will be better. For fitness, I want to be able to go a bit faster on the flats so my wife can ride her bike with me. The 80s bleed off speed it seems. Thoughts? Great content!!!
Thank you! For sure I agree, I prefer the 100mm for anything that isn’t a perfect smooth path. I have 110’s too but I don’t notice any ‘gains’ they’re just more expensive. 100mm is the sweet spot imo but to each their own! You are smart to try them all and see what you like best. Happy skating and thanks again!
I agree with that you need 80's - but I have to say, I love my 90's (speed shape) - for just groing straight - they are faster, I can ride longer distances and it just feels good
What would you recommend for someone new to this with $300-$400 budget who has long smooth open areas he can skate on regularly? I’d like to go fast so I don’t get bored. I’m doing it for another way to cardio hit train. Thanks in advance.
My two absolute favourite skates are the macroblade 100 3WD and the K2 VO2 S100 both you can find in the US for around $200 especially this late in the season. For 80mm I’d go with the macroblade 80. I only use them for cardio training basically. Hope that helps!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer yes, this helps greatly. Since I’m looking for something more fitness oriented I may just get the 80s. I don’t have anywhere nearby to try them on. Do you think they’ll work well for someone with a more narrow foot? Also, how are sizing on 80s compared to regular shoe sizing in your experience? Who should I order from? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks so much for the great info and channel, and god bless. Subbed!
@@honkhonk1555 thank you for the sub!! Much appreciated!! The best price I could find them right now is here: www.sportinglife.ca/en-CA/equipment/more-gear/rollerblades-skateboards/unisex-macroblade-80-inline-skate-25590761.html They should be ok for a narrow foot! I’ve had hundreds of comments and no one ever complained otherwise. I have wide-ish feet, I find k2 a bit narrow. If you’re in the US you should be able to find a smoking deal on those. In-line skate warehouse is where I order my US stuff from they are great. Any other questions fire away!
All you've said is true for your specific use case and physique. However, I firmly disagree for reasons others have already brought up, plus you're discounting individual height and foot size. There's a good reason some brands make 4x90 for larger foot sizes or 4x76 for smaller. 4x80 is generally only 243mm wheelbase. It's dangerous for a bigger person who is beginning to use a frame setup so much smaller than their feet. And if you're into semi-aggressive urban skating that little extra length provides noticable additional stability when jumping and landing. All these reasons are why wizard skaters use 5x80 and up to 4x110 for very aggressive tricks requiring a high degree of foot control and balance. Check it out. It's a different kind of rigorous workout compared to distance skating and kinder to your body than aggressive skating.
Great points and you’re right, everything I’ve said mainly applies to distance skating for fitness. And it’s all just my opinion. I’m just some guy making TH-cam videos in his living room and stating what works for me. Take it all with a grain of salt.
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer I get where you're coming from. Nothing personal. Just wanted to provide alternate point of view. Also regarding safety when suddenly stopping. A little extra height provides a few extra degrees of lean when parallel stopping lessening the danger of boot contacting ground and sliding out.
Depends on what kind of skating you want to do. For tricks and stuff those are probably sweet. I’ve never worn them, I’ve only skated soft boots for fitness. If you want to get in shape and do in-line skating for fitness I would choose something with a soft boot for sure
Well, A bit of everything. I have some friends that enjoy some city skating and even a bit of disco XD Then I have some skatepark friends that would like some nice shots of them etc soo it seems like a good choice. I am just worried that because they try and suit both types of skating they will be much harder to relearn. @@TheLastHonestInfluencer
@@8armdevil if your feet are super tough and impervious to pain the hard boot would work for fitness. I’d get aeons for disco and park and marcoblade 80 for fitness but I get it’s more expensive to have two pairs. Try the aeons and see how they go first maybe!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer you are a legend thank you! I did already get the Aeons just have not had the ability to start back at it yet. As soon as these ribs are healed I'll get out there 🙏👍
Sorry man I don’t know! Im not family with FRX80 model. Most likely the answer is no as the frames will be too small but sometimes people make things work. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help
I’ve not seen many 84mm around. If the wheels were exactly the same price I would buy 84mm because they will wear down to 80mm pretty quick. These videos aren’t perfect by any means and only based on my personal purchasing and skating experience.
I've checked various website and I don't really see this price difference between 90s and 80s. 100s costs a little bit more than 90s that costs a little bit more than 80s. And to me, for urban skating on rough pavements, 90s gives you that little more inertia that make you pass far easily the roughest points than 80s. 90s are the worst for 165mm mounting because they make you way higher from the ground, comparing to 80s or 100s. But that price difference is the thing I don't really see. Conversely, you can buy slightly used 90s (from kids or beginner speed skaters) for cheap, while you have to buy new 80s because nobody is selling them almost new
Interesting! What websites are you looking at? In-line skate warehouse is usually where I buy mine. At the end of the day it’s personal preference. Some people love 90’s. I hate them! If you want to skate them power to you!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer I'm from europe, so maybe I see different prices. I checked skatepro, bladeville, bimar skates, thisissoul. Price of the same wheel is usually growing with the size, 90s are a little bit pricier than 80s and a little bit less than 100s. I skate 80s-90s-100s and like all of them for different reasons
euro seems to have way better prices and options for inline skates. The most important thing is inline skating is awesome and it's great to meet another in-liner. thanks for your comments and happy skating brother! @@federicomori420
Oh god, don’t do 70mm then. Way too high. Get these 60mm: solo-inline.com/en/products/copy-of-roues-roces-58mm-88a-avec-bearing-abec-5-4-pack?Can%20-%20En&Roues%20Roces%2060mm%2F93a%20avec%20bearinga%20%20%284%20pack%29&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjws560BhCuARIsAHMqE0ECM3U31EGNT7Co5Irn39_UrNeH4-BqzlFx5vaQrEvD7SRdugUJ6cEaApyTEALw_wcB
Sorry. You are just blowing smoke… I have al diameters. 80 - 90 - 100 - 110 - 125. They all fulfill different needs. I have Tour hockey skates with 4X80 and Reign Hockey skates with 3 X 100. I can turn much sharper and skate much faster with 3X100 than 4X80. But because the 80s are shorter wheels the tour hockey skates are much more stable. I have Bont Speed skates with 4X110 and 3X125. I can do sprints on either but will have a much easier time with the 4X110 compared to the huge benefit you get on long track or road races with the 3X125. With all that if you have to compare them, the logic stands, the larger the diameter the faster you can skate, the smaller the wheel the closer you are to the ground and easier it is to stop or make abrupt turns. The sharpness of a turn has more to do with the size of the blade than the wheel, and/or if you rocker the blade.
The least honest influencer, you must be joking? Going form 80 up to 90 makes a noticeable difference in both speed and roll-over. On rough surfaces, the difference is very noticeable.
Very² true indeed. I am skating on two different skate, K2 Uptown 80mm and PS Swell 100mm. There is a large difference. Long distance (20km+) I will skate using the 100mm skate. If skating in skatepark or indoor, I will go for my 80mm skate.
Awesome, the swell look so comfy/nice/fast. That’s the pair I was gunning for this year! Thank you for your comment!
Enjoyed your take on this. I personally have a contrasting opinion to yours. I think that 80 mm wheels are the most overrated and offer the least utility. They are also typically set up on very short frames which for most people is unstable and doesn't allow them to really learn and execute proper technique to skate longer, faster and smoother. Regardless, keep up the great content.
Thank you for your comment and valuable input! Great points! At the end of the day personal preference always comes down to what suits your skating style, ability and needs best. My TH-cam inexperience has me speaking to an audience who are in exactly the same place I am in skating…your comment has made me realize this is something I need to consider before sitting down to film. Thank you.
I feel like the 4x80 on my fr1s are short, I wear a size 12 and the wheels just cover the boot. I'd like a little more on the toe and heel
@@Will-tm5bjI have a pair of FR1’s on the way (sz 9), and plan to try the 80’s for a bit before framing up to a 4x90/ 3x100 or 110. Looking forward to the experience!
@kyleheron38 i love them. Now that ive been on them more im a little better as I go. I'd still like to try a different set up at some point. I need to be able to stop better before I go faster though. I have plenty of gas, the breaking is my problem
How are you gonna say that 80mm wheels are just as fast but you get a better workout on them? I will also disagree with 80's being safer for the same reason they require different muscles - the frame length of 4x80 is quite short and requires the skater to compensate with more stabilization effort. 4x90mm frames offer a longer wheelbase which in most cases is safer due to the enhanced stability. Lastly, have you ever tried a rockered frame? You might appreciate the agility and your opinion of larger wheels might change
I use to skate when I was a teen . Now I'm 40 about to get back into it . Thanks for all the advice.
You’re making one of the best decisions of your life. I got back into it at 37 and now at 42 (when I watch what I eat) I feel fitter and stronger than I did at 25 when used to run all the time. In-line skating is the best all-around cardio workout imo.
Very happy to hear the advice is useful! I wasn’t as smart as you…I didn’t watch videos or ask for advice I just wung it and made all kinds of mistake and wasted a lot of money on bogus skates. You live you learn tho! Have an awesome night REX
I went hard back in the 90s, got back into it last year at 42. Wish I never stopped!
@@schoowoolovesbooboo2170 nice!! I hear ya. No stopping us this time
Same here. I skated in my teens. I’m in my 40s now and started skating a few weeks ago. I just learned how to skate backwards today.
I forgot how fun roller skating was until my kids asked me to go roller skating with them.
I like 80mm as it’s very comfortable to control for beginners. For competitive skating, bigger wheels will make a difference, but for beginners and fitness purpose, 80mm is good enough for me.
@CatzzMoney awesome!! It’s so much fun. I agree, still love my 80mm too!!
I agree mostly, however for beginners I think 90s usually provide better stability and less risk of falling backwards
Thanks for your comment. When I was a beginner I found 80's to be the most forgiving, and because they are so cheap I could replace them often when I made rookie mistakes like skating over gravel and crap like that and ruined them 😭. Everyone has their own experience and opinion tho! Thanks again
There are some benefits to the bigger wheels though. For one, they are good for rough roads and trails. I notice I don't have to worry about hitting small stones as much on bigger diameter wheels compared to my smaller wheeled skates.
Excellent point. 100mm are a lot smoother on rougher pathways for sure. I should have included that in the video.
Good nuance here.
Cheers for the video! I'm new and about to get my first skates to cruise around my city Adelaide, Australia - It is a mix of smooth surfaces and bumpier surfaces (light ashphalt and paving) with some long stretches and many short stretches with corners. I have a decade experience in urban unicycling and some pennyboarding. I hear 80mm is good for beginners. My primary goal is to cruise and coast (not workout) long stretches but when needed, also to be able to turn corners, stop/start suddenly, and glide over paving. Which wheel diameter and firmness would you suggest?
For your very first pair you can't go wrong with 80mm 82a, they are the best all around to learn on. Starting on 4x100mm 82a is the easiest, most comfortable most forgiving way to go. And they are still fun to skate years and years later, I still use mine. They aren't as fast as my other ones but I think you get the point. They're plenty fast for beginners, and I can still cruise up to 17kph in 80mm 4x100mm without too much work.
If you love inline skating, once you're super comfortable on your skates get a second pair to go fast on. 3x100mm or 4x100mm depending on where you're skating, 85a hardness is what I like (for going fast). I've had some good wipe outs at speed on those tho so keep that in mind! Have never fallen on my 80mm 4x100. Hope that helps! Happy skating friend!
I purchased K2 VO2 S 90 and skated couple of days on it. For some background, I’ve skated on 80mm and 100mm.
I’m loving the 90mm and now is my preferred wheel size.
🤯😱 I hope you have more luck buying replacement wheels than most people!
I just watched your 80v 90 wheel video. I bought my first rollers in 1986 and the standard was 70mm
70mm! And now they have 140mm…crazy.
What’s your favourite size for skating?
Nice video, Dude! You make some nice points here.
I’m still very much at home on a flat 4x80; it’s agile, quick, playful, you get a better workout, and it’s 100% the best place to start for beginners.
It took me a while to do it, but I have now gravitated to a rockered 4x90, and there are a few things I like about having that slightly larger wheel.
I do personally feel the ride is a bit smoother, especially over the rough stuff I tend to roll on. They carry a little extra speed for longer, which is great when I’m cruising a city, but the biggest benefit for me, and it’s an obvious one, is that they last longer. The issue with my 80s is that they don’t stay 80s for very long. Having that extra 10mm just means I don’t need to think about swapping them out quite as often.
Thanks man! That is a great point you make about 90 lasting longer. I think for the same price tho, 100 make a little more sense then. I’ve never seen 90mm replacement wheels cost less than 100mm. To each their own though, I really appreciate your thoughtful well written logical comment and I’m sure more people agree with you than me! You make excellent points as well! Have a good one friend
Get hydrogen 80s they last longer
Thanks for the video dude. I'd also like to offer a contrarian opinion, but as a complete beginner! I'm 6'1" with a size 10 (UK) foot, and trying to learn on a 243mm frame was driving me absolutely up the wall as I was always having those backwards instability moments. I've literally just come off my first skate with an Endless 90 frame and I'm shocked at the difference in longitudinal stability. Learning feels fun, not a chore! So I gotta say, definitely think there is room for 90s, don't count em out!
Thanks man! Yeah they’re not all bad. Happy skating!!
I noticed that when I tried 100mm my ankles seemed to pronate more and I skated on 100mm, kicked my frames out to compensate for my pronation but the pain set in. I went back to 90mm and 90mm seemed to be my sweet spot. Eventually I went back to rockered 80mm. Rockered 80mm for me are my go-to setup for cardio, dance and jam. It just seems to work for me. I don't think I'll ever go back to flat-flat feesl un-natural.
I personally dont think its too big of a deal to swap wheels if tiu dont skate all the time. I think getting a skate that takes 90s is better because you can always put 80s on them. That's not always true the other way around.
Fair point! I do the same thing with my 110mm skate frames (use 100mm wheels on them)
Hi, i love my 90 mm wich are way faster then 80mm i am a skating coach i have all of them:80 mm,90 mm, 110mm, 125mm, its all about your level of training folks😉.But i respect all people opinions! Like and share people!
Very nice!
90s are worth the price (not that much more if you’re buying quality 80/84/90mm wheels) if you’re spending any time on rougher surfaces like older asphalt. I’ll never forget back 80s where I skate.
Ugh. dont listen to this and its not even worth responding 😴
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer lol. I guess no facts can interfere with some under-informed opinions! One size never fits all, no matter how much you wish to distill the world down into a single limited imagination.
@@phillipp1399 Jesus, dude.
@pilotairbasil9094 loves 80mm so much more than 90mm I made him this this video :)
Two days till Pilot Airbasil changes his name to TestPilot Airbasil and takes off on his new 100's!! Brother, not only did you get the 100mm...you got them on the fastest skate frame with the fastest bearings I've ever used...ilq-9's are like lighting. You're going to FLY!!!! So excited for you. Get a good helmet!!!!
@@Airline_Pilot yes, for sure. I still stand by that. Of course it’s nice to be the fastest and be #1 on every Strava segment with V02 s100 skates, but at the end of the day that’s why I still skate 80mm too, because I want to stay in shape and be healthy and strong that’s always #1.
I love your goals man. Train hard and you will achieve them!!!!
@@Airline_Pilot I hope so too! It would be great to meet you and go for a skate for sure. Do you ever fly to western Canada for work?
@@Airline_Pilot that would be AMAZING! Hope to get there one day, man.
@@Airline_Pilot SWEET!!!!! Keep them wheel side down brother!!!!!! Enjoy
Dammmn bro. You changed my mind. Blading since I was a kid, started on 80s back in the day, followed the larger wheel size hype train.. This makes sense. Switching back and gonna remind myself what the Real Burn was. Respect!
Last time I bladed was in 2006. I had 100mm wheels. Im 44 now, and was gona get 90s. But I may get 84s. What do u think about 84mm???
Theyre ok. Some people think they will last longer than 80mm, that's the main advantage. Replacement 84mm arent worth the extra cost but you can just use 80mm replacement wheels. Hope that helps!
Yo mate i saw all your K2 Boa videos thanks a lot for the infos.
Want to get one of those for the frame looking is so awesome OMG, but i like to freestyle, going backwards, do turnings, some jumps, you know have fun around the city im newbie so nothing too badass.
With the 90mm version you think ill be able to do like i mentioned ?
Also i thought to get the 100mm version and place 80/84mm to go freestyle and when necessary i can swap fornthe original 100mm to go faaaast and far, what are your thoughts about it ?
Thank you 😊
Hey bro! I wish I could help more with the trick stuff but I really only know about fitness skating, 100mm are great for going fast but I think (but I’m not sure) you want smaller wheels for skating backwards and doing extreme stunts and tricks and stuff
I really wasn't sure if i shoud get 80 or 90mm wheels, but now I'm sure I'll go with the 80's. They'll be a nice 35th b-day present to myself. It's been 20 years since I last skated, but I'm exited to learn how to skate again.
Would Impala's be any good for beginners?
I haven’t tried impalas but I did just google them. My honest impression is that you would be better off trying out a rollerblade Zetra blade or the macro blade 80. Or something similar from K2. That said I’m basing that gist off looks alone and judging a book by its cover. You really can’t go wrong with the fitness skates from rollerblade or k2 they are affordable they’re comfortable and they’ve lasted me for half a decade and I have definitely abused them.
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer They're very affordable indeed. I'll go to a skate shop this week to try some out. Thanks again 😄
@@HolisticJay_18 happy to help! And happy birthday to you (when the day arrives). Best present. I rediscovered in-line skating around 35/36 too, best money best decision ever fitness wise. Hope you have the same experience!
I'm a beginner living in a poor european country and looking to buy a new 4wheel hard boot skate, we don't have those smooth roads I see in most videos, so I was thinking maybe 90 would be a nice compromise for having the stability of a 4wheel skate and the smoother ride for our roads?
100s I think are definitely an overkill for me as a beginner.
My opinion having skated both is 100mm is the best choice…same price…more benefits…
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer 100mm still the best even for a beginner?
@@PotatoTroll if its between 90mm and 100mm then yes, absolutely I would pick 100mm even for a beginner. There is no situation ever where I would recommend 90mm wheels. Having used all three sizes I can say with complete confidence 90mm is a bogus.
Many people start out on 100mm. It’s not ideal but given your circumstances and needs I would say it’s your best bet.
90mm replacement wheels are expensive and hard to find (quality ones). They are not a popular size because they’re not as good or common.
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer Thanks. Any reason why u prefer soft boots? Most ppl recommend hard boots for beginners, I have an old pair of Fila fitness skates and I can't say I like them, my feet are really unstable in them, that's why I'm looking into buying a new pair of better quality hard boots.
Maybe an idea for a new video to explain your preference on this.
@@PotatoTroll that’s a brilliant suggestion, thank you!
Personally I only skate for fitness and training. Hard boots cause blister’s because your feet get sweaty and hot when you skate for a long time in them. Soft boots are much cool and more comfortable.
Fila skates are fairly low quality so they probably leave a lot to be desired. K2 and rollerblade both make inexpensive soft boot skates.
The extra rigidity and support a hard boot gives is only necessary if you’re jumping around and doing tricks imo.
Thanks! Question. Is 72mm any good. I went to the store and looked at skates. The 80mms just seems a little big for me. Can i buy a 80mm slate and later just change the wheels. First skate since i was a youngster.
Good question! Truthfully I've never skated 72mm, that's more of a inline hockey wheel size for playing hockey or some trick skates. They will be very stable and safe to learn on but very slow for long fitness skating. Yes you can for sure buy 80mm skates with frames for 80mm wheels and chuck 72mm wheels on there to learn with. Then when you're comfortable switch back to 80mm. Hope that helps! Happy skating
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer saweet. Gotcha, yeah kakes sense. Thanks for the feedback : )
PS: Can you recommend a quality 4x80 make model (or two) that has laterally adjustable wheel frame (for pronators like me)?
That is a great question! I wish dude, sorry, I haven't used any with laterally adjustable wheel frame so I can't make a qualified recommendation. Funny you mention this, I pronate slightly as well so if I skate over 2 hours my knees start to bug me... solution is to adjust the frames like you are wanting to do...so I'm looking for the same skates as you are right now!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer After extensive research, I've decided to try the Powerslide Trinity X Mount skates, which are said to offer a 7mm lateral adjustment. Proskaterplace in Toronto is currently offering some great deals-I'm getting mine at a 50% discount. I've chosen the Powerslide Next 80 model (4x80) for my purchase. One of the Trinity system's key benefits is that it allows your feet to be positioned closer to the ground compared to other frame systems, especially with 80mm wheels. This feature is particularly advantageous, although I have several K2 100mm skates, I've struggled with maneuvers as a beginner after 10 months of casual use. Additionally, from my experience as a former NCAA runner now dealing with knee issues, it's important to understand that knee pronation can be somewhat beneficial. It acts as a shock absorber, reducing peak force on the articular cartilage, especially the medial surface. By limiting pronation, you may increase the forces exerted on the articular surfaces, potentially accelerating degenerative changes or causing acute damage. Thus, a degree of knee pronation might be the lesser of two evils.
Ive been skating on off almost a year with 100mm wheel. I still don't know how to stop. I need to get 4x80 and practice stopping. turning etc
Best wheel size to practice that is 80mm for sure you're on the right track!
Thank you because i am skating for fitness reasons
Awesome friend, same here! Go with 80mm or 100mm for fitness skating for sure
Thanks for the video (…. As my 90mm skates just arrived yesterday…. 😂)
Oh no! Well, hope you like them. Don’t ever try 100mm 😅
I have 80mm currently. I have the Endless 90 frames and 90mm wheels on tap. I also have the 110mm wheels on tap. Im going to try them all! For me, I do agree this is about fitness, but what about rough terrain? In my area the bike paths have cracks, crask with grass, and debri. I find my 80s (fr intuition boots) get hung up really easy. Im hoping my 90s will be better. For fitness, I want to be able to go a bit faster on the flats so my wife can ride her bike with me. The 80s bleed off speed it seems. Thoughts? Great content!!!
Thank you! For sure I agree, I prefer the 100mm for anything that isn’t a perfect smooth path. I have 110’s too but I don’t notice any ‘gains’ they’re just more expensive. 100mm is the sweet spot imo but to each their own! You are smart to try them all and see what you like best. Happy skating and thanks again!
Endless 80s are the way to go for sure!
Haven’t tried them, but I’m keen to now! Are these the ones you recommend: www.endlessblading.com/products/endless-wheels-80-mm ?
Thanks!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer yup.
@@notenrique666 ordered! Thank you!!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer the endless 80 with 3x 90 are awesome
@@pit9623 loving the 80mm endless so far too! These are fantastic wheels!
I agree with that you need 80's - but I have to say, I love my 90's (speed shape) - for just groing straight - they are faster, I can ride longer distances and it just feels good
If you love 90’s, 100’s will absolutely rock your world!
What would you recommend for someone new to this with $300-$400 budget who has long smooth open areas he can skate on regularly? I’d like to go fast so I don’t get bored. I’m doing it for another way to cardio hit train. Thanks in advance.
My two absolute favourite skates are the macroblade 100 3WD and the K2 VO2 S100 both you can find in the US for around $200 especially this late in the season. For 80mm I’d go with the macroblade 80. I only use them for cardio training basically. Hope that helps!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer yes, this helps greatly. Since I’m looking for something more fitness oriented I may just get the 80s. I don’t have anywhere nearby to try them on. Do you think they’ll work well for someone with a more narrow foot? Also, how are sizing on 80s compared to regular shoe sizing in your experience? Who should I order from? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks so much for the great info and channel, and god bless. Subbed!
@@honkhonk1555 thank you for the sub!! Much appreciated!!
The best price I could find them right now is here: www.sportinglife.ca/en-CA/equipment/more-gear/rollerblades-skateboards/unisex-macroblade-80-inline-skate-25590761.html
They should be ok for a narrow foot! I’ve had hundreds of comments and no one ever complained otherwise. I have wide-ish feet, I find k2 a bit narrow.
If you’re in the US you should be able to find a smoking deal on those. In-line skate warehouse is where I order my US stuff from they are great.
Any other questions fire away!
All you've said is true for your specific use case and physique. However, I firmly disagree for reasons others have already brought up, plus you're discounting individual height and foot size. There's a good reason some brands make 4x90 for larger foot sizes or 4x76 for smaller. 4x80 is generally only 243mm wheelbase. It's dangerous for a bigger person who is beginning to use a frame setup so much smaller than their feet. And if you're into semi-aggressive urban skating that little extra length provides noticable additional stability when jumping and landing. All these reasons are why wizard skaters use 5x80 and up to 4x110 for very aggressive tricks requiring a high degree of foot control and balance. Check it out. It's a different kind of rigorous workout compared to distance skating and kinder to your body than aggressive skating.
Great points and you’re right, everything I’ve said mainly applies to distance skating for fitness. And it’s all just my opinion. I’m just some guy making TH-cam videos in his living room and stating what works for me. Take it all with a grain of salt.
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer I get where you're coming from. Nothing personal. Just wanted to provide alternate point of view. Also regarding safety when suddenly stopping. A little extra height provides a few extra degrees of lean when parallel stopping lessening the danger of boot contacting ground and sliding out.
@@uu3903 you maniacs and your power slides that’s such a wild move! Respect. I always use my rubber brake or take the grass…
Thank you for this information!
Happy to help! Thank you for your comment!
then why would you buy 90mm? im genuinely asking
I tried a few pairs of 90mm. Thought the first one might be the skates. Nope.
I eat through wheels so fast It's gotta be 80's. $2.50 a wheel can't beat that.
Amen to that! Same here.
Thanks for the advice. 🤙👍
Thank you for your comment!
thoughts on Aeons 80s for getting back into skating?
Depends on what kind of skating you want to do. For tricks and stuff those are probably sweet. I’ve never worn them, I’ve only skated soft boots for fitness. If you want to get in shape and do in-line skating for fitness I would choose something with a soft boot for sure
Well, A bit of everything. I have some friends that enjoy some city skating and even a bit of disco XD Then I have some skatepark friends that would like some nice shots of them etc soo it seems like a good choice. I am just worried that because they try and suit both types of skating they will be much harder to relearn. @@TheLastHonestInfluencer
@@8armdevil if your feet are super tough and impervious to pain the hard boot would work for fitness. I’d get aeons for disco and park and marcoblade 80 for fitness but I get it’s more expensive to have two pairs. Try the aeons and see how they go first maybe!
@@8armdevil one thing is for sure: macroblade 80 will suck in the park and at disco.
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer you are a legend thank you! I did already get the Aeons just have not had the ability to start back at it yet. As soon as these ribs are healed I'll get out there 🙏👍
Hey I'm planning on getting the FRX 80 skates. Will I be able to upgrade to 100mm on these or do I have to buy a different set of skates?
Sorry man I don’t know! Im not family with FRX80 model. Most likely the answer is no as the frames will be too small but sometimes people make things work. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help
Good for a start because it’s cheap . But the I jumped to 3*125 fr1 and it’s crazy 😛😛😛
My god! I bet!!
weird. in my shop 90mm is not much more pricy than 84mm.
btw why 80mm instead of 84mm? isn't 84 the standard for beginners?
I’ve not seen many 84mm around. If the wheels were exactly the same price I would buy 84mm because they will wear down to 80mm pretty quick.
These videos aren’t perfect by any means and only based on my personal purchasing and skating experience.
for asia women, 90 = some men's 100 feeling~ when i changed 80 to 90, i feel big difference and enjoy so so much, love 90, thanks
Good to know thank you
90 and 80 wheels are the same in prize if i look for Rollerblade Hydrogen
They’re probably trying to get rid of the 90mm wheels because no one buys them
I've checked various website and I don't really see this price difference between 90s and 80s. 100s costs a little bit more than 90s that costs a little bit more than 80s. And to me, for urban skating on rough pavements, 90s gives you that little more inertia that make you pass far easily the roughest points than 80s. 90s are the worst for 165mm mounting because they make you way higher from the ground, comparing to 80s or 100s. But that price difference is the thing I don't really see. Conversely, you can buy slightly used 90s (from kids or beginner speed skaters) for cheap, while you have to buy new 80s because nobody is selling them almost new
Interesting! What websites are you looking at? In-line skate warehouse is usually where I buy mine.
At the end of the day it’s personal preference. Some people love 90’s. I hate them! If you want to skate them power to you!
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer I'm from europe, so maybe I see different prices. I checked skatepro, bladeville, bimar skates, thisissoul. Price of the same wheel is usually growing with the size, 90s are a little bit pricier than 80s and a little bit less than 100s. I skate 80s-90s-100s and like all of them for different reasons
euro seems to have way better prices and options for inline skates.
The most important thing is inline skating is awesome and it's great to meet another in-liner. thanks for your comments and happy skating brother! @@federicomori420
@@TheLastHonestInfluencer yeah man, keep it up with inline videos!
@@federicomori420 thank you!!!
I'm scared of heights. 80mm sounds tall. Are there 70mm wheels?
Oh god, don’t do 70mm then. Way too high. Get these 60mm: solo-inline.com/en/products/copy-of-roues-roces-58mm-88a-avec-bearing-abec-5-4-pack?Can%20-%20En&Roues%20Roces%2060mm%2F93a%20avec%20bearinga%20%20%284%20pack%29&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjws560BhCuARIsAHMqE0ECM3U31EGNT7Co5Irn39_UrNeH4-BqzlFx5vaQrEvD7SRdugUJ6cEaApyTEALw_wcB
Sorry. You are just blowing smoke… I have al diameters. 80 - 90 - 100 - 110 - 125. They all fulfill different needs. I have Tour hockey skates with 4X80 and Reign Hockey skates with 3 X 100. I can turn much sharper and skate much faster with 3X100 than 4X80. But because the 80s are shorter wheels the tour hockey skates are much more stable. I have Bont Speed skates with 4X110 and 3X125. I can do sprints on either but will have a much easier time with the 4X110 compared to the huge benefit you get on long track or road races with the 3X125. With all that if you have to compare them, the logic stands, the larger the diameter the faster you can skate, the smaller the wheel the closer you are to the ground and easier it is to stop or make abrupt turns. The sharpness of a turn has more to do with the size of the blade than the wheel, and/or if you rocker the blade.
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The least honest influencer, you must be joking? Going form 80 up to 90 makes a noticeable difference in both speed and roll-over. On rough surfaces, the difference is very noticeable.
Completely serious. You’d have to be on drugs to think 90mm makes a noticeable difference.
I like your style brother!
Thank you! And thank you for your comments!
😮 omg maybe i thought the 90s were faster just because I got better 🤔
Should I go with the hydrogen wheels?
hydrogens are decent! I wouldn’t pay more for them than other similar wheels but they lasted as long as any other for me
Start on 80. Move to 100 when ready. Duh
Solid plan!