I've been thinking that for a while. A Total Football (or Bologna's Motta philosophy) of interchanging set of midfielders. But in the highest level of course physicality is important that's why i'd add Xabi Alonso's extremely compact short passing game to utilise player's technicality more since it would be the supposed midfielders best attribute.
@@yudhistira9453 ye, what i would like to achieve is total football movement and courage to move around the pitch but with sarri's vertical tiki-taka, short and fast passes, fluminense and malmo irl are the closest things yet, even tho they're still missing that vertical tiki taka
Started a new game with Bayern FC new season using the Mez one 7 friendly wins 6-1 10-0 8-1 6-0 4-1 5-0 6-0 last 2 v Barcelona and AC Milan wow. Feel sorry for Harry Kane no medals but he will get one using this tactic. Let’s go smash everything. Cheers Stinger
Watching this actually play out on the field it looks a lot like Man City in 2018 in possession, with the 2-3 buildup, 8s occupying the halfspaces and one player on either side stretching the play.
Love this creative tactics! Great work! Can you recreate Spaletti’s Roma 4-6-0 tactic (Totti as False 9 and main focus point in attack) fluid football from 2007? Would love to see that in FM!
@@StingerNeilD It's worth it. It famously influenced Alex Ferguson's Champions League and Premier League winning tactics in 2007/2008 with a fluid "front" 3 of Rooney, Tevez, CR7.
Nuts lol ... sigh, I need to load a new game some point and try it. I am guessing this is somewhat stat / awareness intensive, prob won't work lower leagues? Have you tried CF / TF or SS (A) just feels like a roaming / big dude would help for the chaos of movement
Love the content, surely using IWB on support would be better right? There traditionally better on the ball, there better at dribbling and centre defenders are better at tackling, is there something Liberos offer that a iwb doesnt?
Starting position... also lb and rb are matched man for man by the opposing wingers. Where as there will almost always be atleast 1 CB free... meaning they have more space to operate while also being more effective at dragging the opposing midfield out of shape. When the CB push through the middle a midfielder is forced to press which gives you an option in the midfield to beat the press.
would it be possible to represent this in FM 23? Can't have Libero in a 4-man D-line in that version, what would something that could work? I guess BPD? or go 3-man and do Libero + WCB? No IFB either but I'm guessing moving them to WB and making them IWB would do similar?
@@StingerNeilD True... This part in the back is confounding me. L-A and two WCB-DE leaves me with one player homeless on the pitch. Going a back 4 leaves me with trying to replicate the Libero. I guess the closest would be a 3-4-3 diamond. What's funny is the guy I was using as a IW-A (Gnonto) is a 5-star F9 lol. The homeless guy can be AM so I make him a T so he can basically do whatever lol No idea how this will work but we'll see.
Have u tried PF atk for central striker? I'm finding it more involved than poacher and not so much of an early outball target as AF. Good for possession football
@@StingerNeilD it’s half of second season at Barcelona, so I can say few things about this wonderful tactic. I use the offensive one lot more. First season - no trophies. Lost and drew few games where I was dominant, but couldn’t score or outscore opponents. Also lost offensive players due to injuries with Lewandowski missing 3/4 of the season… ultimately that cost me. However, second season is a different story. I stick to offensive variation in every game, bought Messi from Miami to act as false 9 on the right and he is tearing it apart at age 37. Yamal as AF is my best scorer and I see Frenkie de Jong being the player everyone thought he would be for the first time since his Ajax days. Regista position is perfect for him. What surprise me the most is how sound defensively this tactic actually is. Just had 10 games in a row without concededing. Tbh I have never had a tactic being so close to what Barcelona should be playing. Offensive to the bone, defensively solid, goals coming from everywhere, fluid and attractive football. Am grateful and say big thanks to you! Finally enjoying Barca save this year :) and they are the team I support irl. Cheers!
Have been trying to implement Motta's tactic for a month or so. Either with no success or with no fluid roaming. Will try yr one. I have just been promoted to Prem.League with Buxton and have 5 veeery promising young mezzalas/f9s. Ive been playing with IW/IF, BWMd ord DPLd and common CDs, but other than that my squad is damn ready for this tactic transition. Wamted to sell my IW and IF anyway. So yr tactic is veeery timely. And I love IFBd. Use tall and strong CDs as IFd, not very fast and with poor crossing, but they are decent at buildup and defensively my team conceded the fewest amount of goals in championship. Even though I played 2 mezalla with attack duty. I bet my Buxton will be raped with PL grands, since my CD are decent at championship level and using 2 liberos is scarry, but will see whether I get relegated or not. One F9 was decent, but not great for me. Probably 2 F9 will rock. But I will try poacher as well. Cause it fits Motta's countermoving concept more. And on paper is great paired with F9. Thank u )
Both my side f9 always play shits. > F9 players always prefer dribbling breakthrough when they take the ball off the side or into the penalty box. They don't see the through pass angle.
@@StingerNeilD i ask to help a tactic suitable for this team,its ok thanks for your reply best wishes and good luck in everything you do,keep the good work.
@@StingerNeilD they are solid at the back with high press and fast counters i try all the system some inspired by your videos but its not so close what i like to see
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This is mental. Im imagining using an entire team of midfielders trained up to the positions, just bossing it.
God I love that idea
I've been thinking that for a while. A Total Football (or Bologna's Motta philosophy) of interchanging set of midfielders.
But in the highest level of course physicality is important that's why i'd add Xabi Alonso's extremely compact short passing game to utilise player's technicality more since it would be the supposed midfielders best attribute.
@@yudhistira9453 ye, what i would like to achieve is total football movement and courage to move around the pitch but with sarri's vertical tiki-taka, short and fast passes, fluminense and malmo irl are the closest things yet, even tho they're still missing that vertical tiki taka
@@yudhistira9453making a proper total football tactic has been my dream
Just like Thiago Motta?
I found one or your videos this week, and i enjoy your work. Keep going bro 🔥
Thank you 🤟
Started a new game with Bayern FC new season using the Mez one 7 friendly wins 6-1 10-0 8-1 6-0 4-1 5-0 6-0 last 2 v Barcelona and AC Milan wow. Feel sorry for Harry Kane no medals but he will get one using this tactic. Let’s go smash everything. Cheers Stinger
Hey that's me on the twitter feed at 0:20! Providing a useful comment as ever haha Brilliant work mate
Haha thank you boss
Watching this actually play out on the field it looks a lot like Man City in 2018 in possession, with the 2-3 buildup, 8s occupying the halfspaces and one player on either side stretching the play.
even the legend johan cruyff refused to use fullback, he used widecentreback for his incredible 3331 system
Love this creative tactics! Great work! Can you recreate Spaletti’s Roma 4-6-0 tactic (Totti as False 9 and main focus point in attack) fluid football from 2007? Would love to see that in FM!
Will need to find it, Maybe though
@@StingerNeilD It's worth it. It famously influenced Alex Ferguson's Champions League and Premier League winning tactics in 2007/2008 with a fluid "front" 3 of Rooney, Tevez, CR7.
Totti was different gravy. What a player.
I also enjoyed the Totti Cassano combo
@@craigdavis5818it wasn't cassano with totti.
It was mancini Taddei and vucinic up front
Um... Totti and Cassano definitely were a combo... Go check out their matches at Roma. @@Micfri300
So yeah, I wanted to watch obscure FM tactics but now I can't unsee Triple H in CM Punk's shirt...
What an incredible tactic thanks for sharing :)
Pleasure
Nuts lol ... sigh, I need to load a new game some point and try it. I am guessing this is somewhat stat / awareness intensive, prob won't work lower leagues?
Have you tried CF / TF or SS (A) just feels like a roaming / big dude would help for the chaos of movement
Looking forward to trying this out 😊
Hope you enjoy it!
You done it again an absolute 💯 brilliant tactic
Thank you as always mate
Utterly mental and chaotic.
...thus, I now need to try it LMAO
My man
High press / Gengenpress tactic dominating the match engine?
What a surprise??????
Zzzzz
i wanna say that Is like playing with iwb and bpd
If our brothers from across the pond see this, ima put money on that they will name it “the freedom tactic”
That'll work
Great tactics. Works
Good to hear!
Ten hag counterattack next?
Toughie but I shall try
This is perfect for my Liverpool save...all I use are CMs CBs and STs anyway
Nice, hope it goes well
Alright so obvious questions:
1. Have we tried 1 car and 1 mez?
2. have we tried if(s) or if(a) in place of the f9s?
Haven't tried option 1 but option 2 was the first fail in a 433 👍
@@StingerNeilD update with car/mez combo: 1st preseason game: 0-12, shots 1-40 we're off and running 😁
@@37wheels haha what a start
@@37wheels one mezzala attack one carrielo or
@@StingerNeilDiw-s with cm-a could work because I assume the reason ifs didn't work was because with wingers and double carrileros played too wide
bro you are just the best!!
Libero is broken. Always popping up with bangers on edge of box
Could do wide target forwards too instead of f9.
Love the content, surely using IWB on support would be better right? There traditionally better on the ball, there better at dribbling and centre defenders are better at tackling, is there something Liberos offer that a iwb doesnt?
Start position mainly. I agree with you but this is just a different way
Starting position... also lb and rb are matched man for man by the opposing wingers. Where as there will almost always be atleast 1 CB free... meaning they have more space to operate while also being more effective at dragging the opposing midfield out of shape. When the CB push through the middle a midfielder is forced to press which gives you an option in the midfield to beat the press.
Failed at Motta - Achieved at beauty/beast delete where applicable
would it be possible to represent this in FM 23?
Can't have Libero in a 4-man D-line in that version, what would something that could work? I guess BPD? or go 3-man and do Libero + WCB?
No IFB either but I'm guessing moving them to WB and making them IWB would do similar?
Hmmmm, could be tricky, IWB would move into DM not CB. Tough one
@@StingerNeilD True...
This part in the back is confounding me. L-A and two WCB-DE leaves me with one player homeless on the pitch. Going a back 4 leaves me with trying to replicate the Libero.
I guess the closest would be a 3-4-3 diamond. What's funny is the guy I was using as a IW-A (Gnonto) is a 5-star F9 lol. The homeless guy can be AM so I make him a T so he can basically do whatever lol
No idea how this will work but we'll see.
Doubt it because the way Liberos function in FM24 is completely different. A lot of FM24 tactics revolve around FM24's positional play features
I would try this if I had the personnel for it but all my fullbacks are short twitchy guys who can cross. I have 4 world class attacking wingbacks
Have u tried PF atk for central striker? I'm finding it more involved than poacher and not so much of an early outball target as AF. Good for possession football
Will give it a try
I might give this a try on my vitesse save later - I don't normally get the poacher a good rating so I'll see how the PF will go
@@Steele69PF is class but I usually prefer CF-A. Combines so well with F9
"messing around with my wrestling figures"
Yep
im running this asap
Good luck 👍
Fantastic what about set pieces use any ?
Nah, assign coach is all I did
Any team instructions?
very interesting bro, do u have link for download this tactic. plzzzzz
gonna try that in Barcelona on iPad or Xbox (no PC version for me). Just wanted to ask one thing: what is the width in this tactic? looks awesome!
Think it's set as standard
@@StingerNeilD thanks. Gonna try it soon. Am excited as hell 😄
@@StingerNeilD it’s half of second season at Barcelona, so I can say few things about this wonderful tactic. I use the offensive one lot more. First season - no trophies. Lost and drew few games where I was dominant, but couldn’t score or outscore opponents. Also lost offensive players due to injuries with Lewandowski missing 3/4 of the season… ultimately that cost me.
However, second season is a different story. I stick to offensive variation in every game, bought Messi from Miami to act as false 9 on the right and he is tearing it apart at age 37. Yamal as AF is my best scorer and I see Frenkie de Jong being the player everyone thought he would be for the first time since his Ajax days. Regista position is perfect for him.
What surprise me the most is how sound defensively this tactic actually is. Just had 10 games in a row without concededing.
Tbh I have never had a tactic being so close to what Barcelona should be playing. Offensive to the bone, defensively solid, goals coming from everywhere, fluid and attractive football.
Am grateful and say big thanks to you! Finally enjoying Barca save this year :) and they are the team I support irl. Cheers!
@@piotrwoejko5857 that's great to hear
Have been trying to implement Motta's tactic for a month or so. Either with no success or with no fluid roaming. Will try yr one. I have just been promoted to Prem.League with Buxton and have 5 veeery promising young mezzalas/f9s. Ive been playing with IW/IF, BWMd ord DPLd and common CDs, but other than that my squad is damn ready for this tactic transition. Wamted to sell my IW and IF anyway. So yr tactic is veeery timely. And I love IFBd. Use tall and strong CDs as IFd, not very fast and with poor crossing, but they are decent at buildup and defensively my team conceded the fewest amount of goals in championship. Even though I played 2 mezalla with attack duty. I bet my Buxton will be raped with PL grands, since my CD are decent at championship level and using 2 liberos is scarry, but will see whether I get relegated or not. One F9 was decent, but not great for me. Probably 2 F9 will rock. But I will try poacher as well. Cause it fits Motta's countermoving concept more. And on paper is great paired with F9. Thank u )
AFa AFa AFa
RPMs RPMs RPMs
CWBa BPDs BPDc CWBa
SKa
Narrow short passing
High pressing
What edition of football manager is this
Hi Stinger! Hope you are well? Do you have a discord server of some sort? If not… why not make one? Im sure we will love to join it
Hi man. I used to have one but in honesty I didn't have time to manage it. I connect with most people on patreon and twitter 👍
I wonder how this tactic would pan out on FM Touch? Gonna try it out hehe
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have you made the tactic dowload free?
What tatical style do you use?
Team instructions?
This looks fun and different. I’m going to try this out with my Bundesliga 2 side.
Brave! I like it
Both my side f9 always play shits. > F9 players always prefer dribbling breakthrough when they take the ball off the side or into the penalty box. They don't see the through pass angle.
Potentially your players traits are taking over? Or try them as DLFs instead
Can i ask about Oi in this amazing tactic
None 👍
Similar to Thiago motta tactics
and where can I download tactics?
Patreon. Or copy instructions from the video
Can you recreate Liam rosenior tactic please
In honesty I've never seen them play
I don't play any tactic with 3 strikers in it
congratulations
Hi can you recreate Paok tactic
I'm not to familiar with there style I'm afraid
@@StingerNeilD i ask to help a tactic suitable for this team,its ok thanks for your reply best wishes and good luck in everything you do,keep the good work.
@@StingerNeilD they are solid at the back with high press and fast counters i try all the system some inspired by your videos but its not so close what i like to see
the tactics is alright, but conceding 4 goals in a game ain't fun.
Which team you using
Intensity is too high to play
Porto are not the best team in the league😂😂
On the game they are brains
@@StingerNeilD annoying in the game, they always get really good…in real life, Benfica are far and away the biggest🔴⚪️
@brunogoncalves4170 I agree dude
Stolen tactic
Idiot. I literally showed on my patreon and in the video making it step by step.