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Little Plywood Boxes - a basic build [video 495]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2022
- In this video I make a set of small #BirchPly #boxes from recycled / upcycled #LooseTenonJigs using only a simple toolset - an entry-level plunge saw, a hammer and nails and a set of cheap chisels. Enjoy!
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Videos mentioned / of interest:-
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Two £79 saws - • Lidl Parkside or Screw...
Flat-pack CNC Loose Tenon Jig - • Flat-Pack CNC Loose Te...
Tracksaw workshop playlist - bit.ly/TracksawWorkshop
My cheap nailer and compressor - • My Cheap Nailer and Co...
Ikea Curtain track DIY MFT - • DIY MFT with Ikea Curt...
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Benchdogs FenceDogs - • Fencedogs 👍👍👍 [#212]
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Featured/mentioned in this video:-
Note that prices fluctuate - some have risen since I made my purchases.
Triton 48t blade - amzn.to/2EQgUMJ
Cheap chisels [similar] - amzn.to/3NFmCTm (US: [similar] amzn.to/386DYZ4)
Macallister plunge saw - available in the UK from B&Q stores at diy.com
10.8v drill/driver [similar] - amzn.to/3tQAEJ0
20mm conduit - www.toolstation.com/20mm-heav...
Hultafors Talmeter tape measure - amzn.to/2pHwnbH (US: amzn.to/2oqLQc9)
Benchdogs rail square - bit.ly/bench-dogs
Benchdogs precision triangle/square - bit.ly/precisiontriangle
Other handy gear:-
Hultafors Talmeter tape measure - amzn.to/2pHwnbH (US: amzn.to/2oqLQc9)
Benchdogs rail square - bit.ly/bench-dogs
Benchdogs precision triangle/square - bit.ly/precisiontriangle
Festool PDC 18/4 - amzn.to/2s3J0eq (US: amzn.to/2tWUHEL)
Festool Domino - amzn.to/2pVSnMk (US: amzn.to/2o7E22Q)
Bessey DuoKlamp - amzn.to/3eDz1Ig (US: amzn.to/3w1s1dM)
Festool lever clamp - amzn.to/2pOohLD (US: amzn.to/2pnFZIM)
Festool MFT - amzn.to/2x49HHE (US: amzn.to/2J25aKy)
Festool Midi extractor - amzn.to/2tCIN3Q (US: amzn.to/2rKNIOx)
Festool TS55 Tracksaw - amzn.to/2pGvzDS (US: amzn.to/2oOgGhw)
Festool T18 drill/driver - amzn.to/2QAHpK1 (US: amzn.to/2RPuOCR)
Hultafors Talmeter tape measure - amzn.to/2pHwnbH (US: amzn.to/2oqLQc9)
Moldex 6810 in-ear defenders - amzn.to/2P2c5nP (US:amzn.to/2LgIsye)
Mirock square - etsy.me/2MC0RT
Mirock 500mm T-ruler - etsy.me/365P0KE
Bahco 6” combi square - amzn.to/2oumhX4 (US: amzn.to/2ouSg9k)
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Thanks Peter. I appreciate your clever approach
Your basic builds are really so educational when it comes to how versatile the track saw can be. Many Thanks.
Thank you! 👍
Excellent. You are indeed a track-saw wizard!! I would never have considered overhanging the track like that.
Thanks Alastair! 👍
Simple tip to save your fingers when pinning small brads. Hold it between the teeth of a fine comb. Nice little video👍🏻
You can also hold the nail/pin with small pointy nose pliers.
Being able to clamp the workpiece edge up on the front of your bench - didn't appreciate that feature until this video. Brilliant!
Really dig the way those boxes were constructed. Using a rebate/dado to attach the faces is an economic and aesthetically pleasing solution. Building drawers that way would be fantastic. I’ve always thought it was a silly waste to make a drawer box then add another layer of face wood to the front. You’re method reduces the amount of material used, is strong and looks very good. Loving the basic build series!
Thank you! There are other benefits to fitting a drawer fascia of course - ease of alignment being the main one from an installers point of view - but I do like this approach, with the rebates. 👍👍
Learned a few more track saw/MFT techniques! Thank you for another fun and instructional video😀
Thanks Todd! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@10MinuteWorkshop he is a true inspiration. I was about to buy a table saw, but i was way too afraid to get my hands close to an open blade. I really appreciate the fact that you share sooooo much. Cheers from greece m8
I was waiting for the bent nail Peter, 😂 Oh the black finger nails using panel pins… Loving the basic builds with so many makers running out of ideas it seems? Always look forward to the 10 minute workshop videos. Thanks mate. 👍🏻
Thanks Andrew! 👍👍
The king of tracksaws at work, thanks Peter for sharing!
Hi Peter - if you continue on this path… I would be looking forward to the video on how to make wooden boxes just using a kitchen knife and self made sand paper 😄
Haha Wino! Swiss Army kitchen knife maybe! 😂👍
That centre-zero rule is a great marking/measuring tool. I've never seen one before!
Thanks yes, very handy. I showed them in my last gift ideas video - Kinetic customs steel rule (£28, bit.ly/150-0-150 )
Whittams Precision Rules (~£6 + £10 P&P bit.ly/6-0-6 )
Grazie. Ottimo!
Great idea. You can also make little bins like that for you packout boxes when the pre made plastic bins don't fit what you want in them as well.
Heh Peter this was really timely just about to do the same so excellent timing and content as always mate.
Cheers David! 👍👍
Great video Peter, thank you.
Between you and David in Australia, I'm really liking the MFT work benches. I had never seen them here in the states until I started watching you two's videos.
Thanks! 👍
they are a game changer. and so cheap to buy in the UK. i got an MFT and 6 dogs for about 70$ delivered. us in the UK tend to have to work from smaller workshops and dont get the viewers to get a huge free table saw you seen in most of the US vids
Bravo maitre!
Slick
brilliant, I have been considering a track saw for a while now , and never thought it would do a rebate like that , thankyou
Always nice to have a Millard build video to watch. Cheers Peter
Thanks Philip! 👍
Another great video! Some of my favorite projects in my shop are the ones where I get to use up scrap. At todays lumber costs it's very satisfying not having to buy anything!
Hi Peter, a very clever way to make a complex task simple and accurate. Thank you for some useful and " portable" ideas. Mike
That was brilliant thank you! Nice and simple, easy to follow. Now I can try mine 😊
That is a great idea. Thank you for sharing.
brilliant - thanks 👌
Thanks Peter. Basic build is a great idea.
I have a track saw but haven't got around to choosing a router. So ideal for me. Interestingly I already had a compressor, so adding a cheap nail gun was a no-brainer.
Great stuff. Thanks Peter.
Cheers Mark! 👍
An excellent techniques tutorial Peter, thanks.
Cheers Dave! 👍
I wish I could find a bit of Baltic birch plywood lurking behind a bit of MDF!
My supplies are dwindling! 😂 👍
This is your lane like these little jobs.
You are sketching with a fountain pen? OMG!
Always! The ink shows up much better in a video. 👍👍
Love your work 👍
Thank you!
Like I said in one of the previous basic build videos, even as a seasoned woodworker, these videos are still very informative. I just got my first tracksaw (I splurged on the festool TS 55 FEQ) and I'm still getting used to the ins and outs of it.
Seeing you smack those tiny nails in those tiny boxes really makes me appreciate my compressor and air tools lol
Those should be on any DIYer's priority list. Air tools are amazing.
Looking forward to the next one!
Thank you! It’s amazing what you can do with an entry-level saw, but I reach for the Festool out of preference. 👍
Nice video. Just wondered if a “track saw wizard” would ever cut dovetails? Also nice hammer work. There is something satisfying about nailing a small box! 👍🏼
Thanks! You’re not the first person to ask about tracksaw dovetails, so it may be something I need to investigate. Getting the width of the pins consistent may be an issue, and clearing the waste would still need a chisel/coping saw combination, I think. Might be entertaining to try through! 😂👍
as usual, another great learning video on the track saw and bench combo----thanx again, rick (usa)
Very welcome! 👍
Indeed track saw wizard.
Needing a set of battery-powered tools for occasional use I went with Ryobi. They get more than occasional use now, but are never abused. I bought their battery-powered brad nailer after much deliberation, my only regret is that I didn't get it sooner. I still enjoy the tactile experience of panel pins and hammer, but it is good to have the choice. I also bought an entry-level track saw (I was going to go for Makita, but was put off by some negative reviews on the tracks). You have now convinced me that a track saw can be a precision tool. Once again, great to have choices: router, router table, table saw, track saw, hand tools. The best thing about multiple options is that you can set up your router, table saw and track saw for various processes in a job, and complete it with zero or minimal setup changes, giving consistent results.
I subscribe to a guy in the US ,Anthony Scolaro, who has got rid of his beautiful Grizzly sliding table cabinet saw for Festool MFT and tracksaw because of limited shop space and it gives increased productivity on the work he's currently doing.
Great vid as always 👍🏻
Thanks Christian! 👍
Another great video Peter. Was great to meet you and Mrs M at Makers Central. Haven't used the LTJ yet but hope to soon. Had a great time. Hope you did too
Thanks Gaz! Great to meet you too, and a great weekend all round. Tiring though! 😴👍
I bought my MacAllister track saw after watching your videos. I use it too infrequently to stump up for the bigger brands, and replaced the blade with a Freud laminate blade. Works for me. One thing I found was the saw was binding in the track sometimes on longer cuts, so I removed 2 of the guides in the saw base.
Still excellent neat cuts & much better than on the table saw. Benefits from rubbing an old candle on the saw base too.
Thanks! Saw shouldn’t be binding if it’s set up right, but as long as you’ve found a solution you’re happy with. 👍👍
That bit of sacrificial MDF looks like it could have been the inspiration for "Blue poles".
😂😂😂
Very nice little boxes Peter, it is great to use up scrap to make something useful for the workshop 👍. Another tip learnt today - clamp pieces to the bench face & overhang the track, I've never thought of that 👍👍. I bet you were itching to get the air nailer out 😂😂
Thanks! And I h yes - was I ever! 😂👍
Good work. Using a hammer is a skill that needs to be practiced!
Certainly is! 👍
Pretty nice work, Peter! 😃
I need to make some of those as well!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks, you too! 👍
The admonishment to check front & back measurements came a day too late for me. I was making some rolling storage from ply and the back of the opening was smaller than the front so the first box jammed just before it got all of the way in... Thankfully it was the first of five and it went in nicely to one of the other openings and I learned the lesson.
The idea to use the track saw with the piece clamped to the side of the bench was brilliant....I may have to steal that one.
Sorry to hear that; like yourself, my lesson was hard-learned! And yes, it’s a neat trick to get the edge rebate if you have a few to do, but no safe way to do it with a router. 👍
Howdy Peter,
I'm big Fan of your basic builds, always amazing how easy things can be 👍
Even if i already seen some of this vids more then once 😀
Thank you! 🙌👍
Never thought of taken the splinter guard off and moving it just after ordering one... o well it will keep for later.
You're more and more convincing me that instead of a bulky mitre saw and scary table saw, all I need when I set up my tiny workshop is a track saw and an MFT top!
Thanks! In a small workspace you’ll have an easier time of it if you can take the saw to the work, that’s for sure. 👍👍
depends what you do. i have a smallish dewalt table saw and for some stuff its far quicker. but if i had to do it all again i may well have just bought the track saw. its such a versatile and useful tool and so powerful with an MFT/dogs.
Those are neat, Peter. Now I'm not questioning your soundproofing, but I had to grin at the thought of your neighbours hearing the hammering and thinking, "What the hell's he doing in there!" lol
Cheers Keith! Ha! They can't hear anything above the sound of their sewing machines and their own yammering! 😂
Hi Peter, I noticed the variable depth cuts that you had here when making the rebates on the front panels. I had this a few years back ( when I had an economy track saw ) and put it down to flex in the body/base/hinge of the saw allowing the blade to drop slightly more into the wood. Since buying a better one I haven't had cause to try similar cuts and wonder if you had tried this with other saws.
You’ll always get a slight variation unless you use a flat ground blade, and obviously the entry-level saw are less well engineered than the higher end so the effect is more pronounced with them. 👍
My circular saw and DIY MDF edge guide has served me well, but only goes so far - this video is the clincher, need to add a tracksaw to the arsenal.
I don’t know anyone who’s bought one and regretted it. 👍👍
LOL try doing your basic builds in a 6x5 shed with a table saw in it... a bit tight to say the least (got kicked out of the garage by the Mrs because of the sawdust!)
You’re right, there’s nothing better than an air nailer for those types of jobs although I did once manage to put a nail through my thumb😂😂
Ouch!
I’m happy to see a project that doesn’t need an air nailer.
Really enjoy the video. Your use of the side of the bench was impressive and innovative - you have inspired me to try that this week. For your next piece of track saw wizardry can you cut a box joint or a dovetail?
Thanks! Plunge saw box joints and dovetails! That’d take a bit of thought! 😂👍
I've been considering upgrading to a Festool track saw (from my 'love-it' Makita) in order to do some finer work but notice you used the more modest MacAllister saw for this project. I've concluded that, before upgrading my saw, I'm going to upgrade my worksurface and engineer a set up similar to yours. I suspect my current saw would meet my needs if I had the ingenious setup you've built. The dog/clamp holes and vertical track work really well and show what can be achieved even with modest tools when the set-up is right. Thanks.
This is part of the ‘basic builds’ series, so entry-level tools only. I use Festool for preference, but also have Makita; I prefer the Festool, personally, it’s a step up IMHO, but all the saws I have will do the basic job of cutting a straight line. 👍
Hey Peter, grab a small magnetic tray when you see one, good for keeping nails or screws escaping :)
I wouldn't think of doing mechanical work without using one. Only took me 70 years to figure out it's perfect for keeping wood fasteners and small drive tips from getting lost!
I am so disappointed Peter: I was sure you were going to say you so enjoyed getting back to a wee hammer for knocking in those panel pins that your gun and compressor were now up for sale. :-) As instructional as ever. Cheers.
Not a chance Norman! 😂👍
I've used the same construction method for the 12 mm ply drawers ( 6 off ) in the under-bench cabinet.
Still OK after 12 years. Canadian high-end woodworker Rob Cosman did a test on the same drawer construction (less pins) and was amazed by the strength, just glue on solid timber.
Yep. I’d be happy just to glue these together - the nails just act as clamps. 👍
I've just dismantled a 30yr old oak dining table with a view to rcycling the timber. Even after sitting in my damp outbuilding for 10 years the glued joints were all good..!
Great video as always, looking forward to your video on a diy rail hinge and can we expect a test/review of the cheapest rail hinge, the aliexpress version?
Thanks! The DIY rail hinge is coming, just sorting out a few little things with it. Not sure the AliExpress one counts as a hinge, I think it's more of a lift, but if they wanted to send me one I'll take a look. 👍
You should have raided the laundry from some plastic pegs to hold the various nails as you hammered them in to start. Saves a lot of bruised fingers & blackened fingernails. Also, looking at the amount of setting up for using the track saw to do the second cut on all those rebates I would have thought even a blunt chisel would have knocked them off very quickly, followed up with a sharp chisel for the final shave.
As always, these things take far longer to explain in a video than to actually do, and in practice the setup time for the edge cuts was minimal - and once done, all 15 were cut within a minute or so. If you think the chisel route perfect rebates is the way to go, then there’s nothing stopping you, but this is a basics build, and assumes a modest skill set to go along with the modest tool set. 👍
Nice one Peter,glutton for punishment!🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎
Yep! 😂👍
Why is so oddly satisfying to peel the dried glue of a silicone brush?
It’s the adult version of picking a scab. That’s my theory, anyway… 🤷♂️😂
@@10MinuteWorkshop Well, I was remembering a time in England (a long time ago) when I got sunburnt. I enjoyed peeling off my sunburnt skin, and so did some of my "friends".
Hi Peter. Since becoming self employed I've found your videos so helpful and inspiring. Especially when it comes to your fitted wardrobes and your loose tenon shaker doors. One question though what make of PVA wood glue are you using? I'm having trouble tracking some down. I don't like using the 5 minutes expanding glue it ends up getting messy, so I've been using standard PVA but that does take a while to go off. Cheers
Christopher Brown Joinery
Hi Chris and thanks! It’s a fast-grab (10Minute !) PVA; I’ve used all kinds and have never found much difference between them, though I tend to go towards Polyvine PolyTen as I can get it in 5 litre bottles. 👍
Peter has saved enough money with his budget build efforts that he can splurge on that Hermes watch band 🙂
Well, I like nice things Ryan, but I’m not going to drop £450 on a watch strap - not when I can get a look-alike on Amazon for ~£20! 😯😂
@@10MinuteWorkshop You were meant to play the part of the opulent Englishman to us peasants!
@@RJ_Taylor Sorry! I’ll accept my re-education with good grace! And about £430 still in my back pocket… 😯😂😂👍
£450 flippin' 'eck is it pure gold or designer tax?
A few years ago I noticed how many Ikea 'Moppe' CD storage drawer sets were on Gumtree etc. I refitted my workshop storage with them for a few pounds a pop, cheaper than I could buy the timber even then. Alas my fixings store outgrew them and I moved to used plastic storage bins, just not as classy.
Another veryy nice video. I saw you using a fountain pen, nice! What was it, do you have others you like too?
Thanks! I'm a big fan of fountain pens for drawing - ink shows up so much better in video than pencil - though mine are all low-end models. Love the Pilot Vpen, Platinum Preppy and Plaisir, enjoyed the Monami Olika though the ones I had didn't last very well. Plenty of others though. 👍
I noticed the fountain pen as well. It’s can become an addiction.
Fountain pen for workshop sketch.....?
Pretentious if you ask me 😃😃
Ink shows up better than pencil in video, and I like a ‘proper’ pen. 👍👍
Great video series as usual. Your camera placement is just superb as well as your audio. Question, would this project have been any easier with the all Festool tools you have used for years? I have bought quite a few Festool products based on your videos so I am just curious. I am very happy with my Festool purchases. Be aware that Baltic Birch plywood is all but impossible to purchase here on the left side of the pond. Would your project have changed with a cheaper plywood with only 3 to 5 layers? Thanks
Thanks! Easier? No, but more comfortable, and with much better dust collection! This video's from May last year, before the Birch ply drought, but as I say in the vid I'm recycling bits and pieces of old / rejected loose tenon jigs that I've already paid for! Now *That's* an expensive way to get Birch ply!😂 👍
Very helpful video but just curious about what thickness plywood you used for the sides. Also is there a reason for why you used thicker material on the back of the drawer? More durable?
No reason other than making use of what I had. 👍
Wanted to say thanks Peter, my 1st track saw arrived today - ready to attempt to build some benches for our dining room. I see you using tape sometime to hold the wood together as the glue binds. I dont have a nail gun yet to drive home the pins and only have a couple of clamps. Is there a particular type of tape you'd recommend for this - or even a cheap nailer? Thanks again - I have been consuming SO many of your track saw videos and content these last few weeks.
Thanks Brian! No, pretty much any masking / painters tape will do the job. Never had much luck with the cheaper electric nailers tbh, but I live in hope! 😂👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks Peter, shortly after I wrote the question I saw your nailer and nail gun summary. I should've thought of checking. I will just use some masking tape for now and gradually get more clamps until I can justify a nailer. Thanks
I'd say the bent nail was less about technique and more about the terrible quality of pins available now, most of them have completely offset heads.
great vid and some useful tips and tricks for the tracksaw. What are you using for a sacrificial cutting board? ive found using some things make the saw blade track a bit, especially on the macallister.
Thanks! Just some offcuts of 6mm MDF - been using them for years, no issues. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop what to you set the blade depth at - I’ve noticed you used 6mm mdf as your cutting board in loads of your vids. Do you eyeball it or is it material thickness plus 2mm?
Great vid by tge way - you make it look so easy - especially the marking / clamping /measuring /accurate and square cutting.
Loving the budget series! (I’ll ignore the centre ruler / mft clamps and dust extraction 😜 and enjoy the improved film production value they bring )
Thanks again for the great content.
I like the centre line steel ruler. What brand is it please. Regards Mick.
Thanks! That one’s from Kinetic custom. It was featured in the Christmas gift ideas vid last year, alongside a slightly cheaper option. Kinetic customs steel rule, bit.ly/150-0-150 👍
Did you cut down the saw rail? And love the basic mft table.
Thanks! And no, like many enter-level saws this one comes with two 700mm rails. 👍
Did those pins come from Lidaldi as well?
No, through they might have done! 😂👍
In all fairness, that pin was bent and was never going to knock in straight.
That's my excuse as well David! 😂
05:00ish - Slightly confused about how you persuaded the MDF to stay in the same place throughout the cuts? Can't see the dogs any more or a clamp of any sort. Double sided tape like on the rail? Nice video anyway, thanks!
2:56-ish; "I have a piece of well-used sacrificial 6mm MDF and I'm sticking that to the bench with double-sided tape..." Simplest ways ore often the best. And thanks!
Just one question Peter, what make is your tape measure please ?!
Thanks Roger. It’s an old Talmeter. Links are in the video description to the current ones - here ya go! Hultafors Talmeter tape measure - amzn.to/2pHwnbH (US: amzn.to/2oqLQc9)
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you, am now awaiting arrival of one !!!
Is the bright orange combination square a Bahco?
Yes, it is. If you like funky colours then Kinetic Customs make some great ones, but £££££££ 😯 Bahco are much more accessible.! 😁
@@10MinuteWorkshop I bought a 400mm Bahco combination square recently. It's a joy to use, and great value for money.
Where are the Festool machines?
No Festool machines in the basic build series; simple construction and a minimal toolset is the way with these. 👍
My plywood suppliers have stopped selling Baltic Birch in Oz because It comes from Russia
Rightly so.
I really love your videos and picking up tips even if I barely ever use them myself! Please don’t use beeswax though, it’s very cruel to bees and there are many other more modern alternatives available
That’s not something I’d considered Charlotte, thank you. Do you have a natural alternative that you can recommend?
@@10MinuteWorkshop I use Osmo wood wax, it’s nice stuff, all natural and plant based
Hope my wife doesn't see this and similar videos. You're invalidating all my arguments for fancy and expensive tools and gadgets 😉
😂 Back to the Lamello next time then! 👍👍