My 5 Worst Buys! [video 484]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I ‘fess up to my five #worst purchases - well, five things I probably shouldn’t have bought, anyway. This doesn’t make them #bad #tools, far from it - well, maybe one of them is, but mostly they just didn’t work out for me. Enjoy!
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Festool PDC 18/4 - amzn.to/2s3J0eq (US: amzn.to/2tWUHEL)
Festool T18 drill/driver - amzn.to/2QAHpK1 (US: amzn.to/2RPuOCR)
Spax screws - amzn.to/2oYWydc (US: amzn.to/2oOjkDT)
Bahco 6” combi square - amzn.to/2oumhX4 (US: amzn.to/2ouSg9k)
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What amazes me more is amount of tools and machine you managed to fit in your small workshop.
To that comment, I will add....the amount of work Peter does in his shop.
Great video! I have a shop full of tools I don't use. The question I now ask myself is " Do I love this tool or do I just love the idea of using this tool."
That's a great confessional. Occasionally it's good to be the example for others to learn from our pain 🙂
My worst buy is not a bad tool but it has sat around in my garage since new after being used once in three years of ownership. It is a Festool Domino, and it was used to install 6 dominoes in its first week and has stayed in the box ever since. I only bought it because I binge-watched an almost endless stream of videos on TH-cam where this guy called Peter made fantastic bits of furniture and cabinets and other stuff with one, and so I persuaded myself that my life was incomplete without one of my own...
I'll happily take it off your hands... really fancy one but could never justify the price. Though maybe that's me falling into your same trap, having watched endless youtube videos of people using them.
I didn't use mine for the first several years either. Now I use it all the time. I just had to get comfortable with it. Don't sell it yet.
@@PSD9763 Thanks for the offer, Paul. But, as Aye Captain suggests, I am going to hang onto it in the hope that one day the Domino and I hit it off and we start making beautiful furniture together!
In general I am in the same situation but I could resist so far. Now I regularly have this dream of my 89 year old me finally buys the festool domino to do his last woodworking project and than asks himself why he hasn't bought it at the age of 39.
I also purchased a Festool Domino based almost entirly from watching Peters videos - I got mine second hand after Peter made the very valid point that second hand prices of Dominos means I could buy one, use it for a year or so and then sell it for the same price I paid for it. That was the plan, however now, 2 plus years later you would need to prize it out of my cold dead hand before I ever sold it. I have made loads of cabinets and draws for my workshop and more recently for my home using 18mm sheet material and the Domino makes life so easy and acurate. I have only ever used the one cutter in it and so far only ever used 5 x 30 Dominos but I've used 100's of them over the past 2 years.
Thanks so much for your blatant honesty. We all get caught up in excitement or the hype of something but most guys won’t admit it.
I looked at the “fan in a can” too…. Really glad I went for the box style after hearing that. It seemed ideal on paper, but always good to have a real world test to show what something is like!
Great insight into regretful purchases I’m sure we’ve all made! Most of my worst buys have been via auction sites where I have saved maybe up to 50% off retail but then failed to account for a 2 hour round trip to collect the item, and that they normally don’t perform how they should, hence the seller selling them! I now only (mostly) buy new, and use sites like yours to give me guidance on the pros and cons of kit I’m interested in. Thanks for the informative videos, I’ve learnt a lot from you.
I had wondered what happened to the CNC, was looking forward to another series, as I am seriously contemplating one for small one-off projects like signs etc. Good to know we are not alone in mistaken purchases! My worst was also a table saw, which I gave away and replaced.
Thank you, Peter. It's always reassuring to realise that many of us have access to more money than sense. I think we get afflicted with a mad kind of heat that forces us to empty our wallets and buy these really unsuitable devices !!
Great honest video, I think we all have tools which we regret buying but continue to keep them to justify our mistakes to ourselves or something. You've made me rethink some of the equipment I currently have in the garage...time to make some space and sell them.
Could always be worse. I always say "I never learned anything on a good day", lol. At least you have the generosity to share this and help us all to feel a bit better about some of our learning experiences.
Absolutely loving reading through all these comments!! Very apparent how everyone is different. I wouldn't be without my table saw, but it is a huge 3 metre sliding bed jobby that I got for a steal. My domino joiner however has just sat in the box so far after buying one based on watching too many youtubers! I got the Graco Ultra too based on the "playing at spraying" series and am personally pleased with it so far.
Hi Peter we’ve all done this purchased stuff that we thought we needed but we actually don’t, I try my best to have a need list and a want list, I leave this on my workbench for weeks and generally I find I don’t need half of what I thought but it is thank you to people like you that post videos on here that saves people like me a bunch of money thank you and happy New Year to you. PS I would sell the saw but just be honest and to whoever you sell it to me and tell them it’s not brilliant but someone out there would love it. Paul 👍
Many moons ago I bought a triton router and a UKJ router table for it for a specific project. Promptly life threw me a curve ball and so they sat unused for a number of years whilst we moved and children grew. I eventually managed to use the router to build a nice gaming table topper in the initial lockdown. I decided to finally fit the router to the table and discovered the rather expensive plate it came with had a bow to it, around 0.5mm in the middle along the long side. It turned out there was a bad batch/known issue with these plates around when I got it and I just never noticed, had I they would have exchanged it for me. The vendor assures me this will be "fine" but I can't get past knowing its bent, and they no longer sell the 6mm plates only a 10mm which to me is rather telling. I am sure I'll just get on with it one day but somewhat spendy shed ornament how every you cut it.
Runner up is a "bargain" evolution mitre saw that I saw on sale in B&Q and had to have. It can't even cut a 2x6 so the first proper job it would have been useful for I ended up with a speed square and a battery circular saw!
One of your best videos, Peter. Sharing mistakes is a great way to help others learn. It's less about the product and more about what led you to make the decisions. The last example with the eBay purchase and money burning a hole in your pocket is probably something we can all relate to. So too, the example of buying a product that is perfectly good in its own right, such as the CNC machine, and yet establishing that it isn't a big enough part of your common workflow to warrant the outlay, time spent setting up and space it takes up.
Great video. Humility like this is always great to see on a channel like yours. Thank you! 👍
Thank you! 🙌 Confession's good for the soul; now I feel cleansed enough to go out and buy that Shaper Origin I've had my eye on... 👍 😂
I have often marvelled at the way you manage without a table saw. I don't know the Lutz but there *are* others!
I look forward to more "post-retirement" videos in 2022.
Excellent, honest and funny.
Thanks Peter for making my Friday night.
I’ve followed you for years and can totally relate to all these.
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Cheers Kevin! 🙌👍
I love this video. What rare honesty. I have been watching Peter for years and he just gets better.
I find the CNC thing exactly the same way. Quite the fad but not that useful for regular guys like me.
Thanks, Peter.
Thank you! I do the silly things so that you don't have to! 😂 👍
Great video Peter and nice to see pros making terrible tool purchases. I bought a table saw (actually my wife bought me one for christmas) few years ago as I really wanted one. However I have no place for it to go and no actual workshop as all my woodwork is done outside when it is not raining. I currently have it stored in a very lind neighbours garage and used it... litterally once!
As a long-time viewer, I KNEW the table saw would top your list😄. My experience with the Graco sprayer has been similar to yours. It's totally unreliable, which, in my opinion, is the cardinal sin for a tool (or employee). Thanks for all you do!
Thanks for the video Peter. I did get a corded version of the Graco after watching your videos and it has worked okay for me but it is a bit of a hassle to keep it going and I still seem to use way too much paint.
I worked in a scene shop for a school / performance conservatory, the shop decided that we needed CNC that could handle full 4' x 8' size sheet goods. I am sure it worked well for someone but after sending a staff member 500 miles away for a week of training ( who was already very proficient in AutoCAD ) , building a specific room with loads of acoustic insulation, re working the entire layout of the shop it sat for a year almost never running due to issues with software and hardware. Minding you that the build time for shows were less than 6 weeks and performances were almost always 3 evenings. A favorite picture I took is of a carp hand sawing a length of lumber and having to use the CNC bed as a work table because we had no free space left the shop. What a waste of money for the position the CNC was being asked to fill.
Keep up the great work.
Very impressed with one-man install of the Record air filter! I built a sort of cradle to house mine up next to the ceiling and had to get my wife to help me lift it into position.
As for table saws - I had a fairly modest machine but have sold it and now just rely on the track and band saws - works for me with what I do.
Thanks Rob! Yes, tracksaws do most of what I need, and always have done.👍
Great video Peter. I can highly recommend the DeWalt. Used it on site and in the shop. Accurate and bullet proof.
Can't win them all. Thanks for your honesty. I to don't have enough volume to have a CNC or a 3D printers. I farm those out when needed.
You in the UK can't relate, but being young with a Sears credit card I bought five Sears Craftsman portable power tools. Every one except for the shop vac was a mistake.Any way, I learned what a good tool was. I bought a pressure washer at an auction. By the time I finished fixing it,it only cost me $50 more than if I bought a new one.chuckle.
Fantastic video, full of wisdom, thanks Peter
I really like this video. We all make purchase mistakes, nice to see your experiences.
👍 Only when you have overcome the disappointment and embarrassment of failing can you see past your ego and teach others to learn from your mistakes. Well done.
Good to see that bad buys are not limited to hobbyist woodworkers only! In the comments it becomes obvious that TH-cam vids play a big part in decision making and it doesn’t always turn out to be the best decisions.
Think of it as community service - you buy them so we don't have to.
I don't really have any expensive regret tools, just random piles of small ones that seemed like a good idea but I don't end up using them. Worse are the small really useful tools that I have lent or misplaced, and can't find anywhere to replace. The most expensive in that vein is my habit of buying TIG welders, using them for a few years, then selling them because I'm moving and haven't used them for a while. I'm about to buy my third...
Oh, and my 285mm circular saw (10"?). Which I included in the project cost when I built a shed out of 75mm coolstore panels, but it's proved impossible to resell. Even the guy who offered $50 failed to turn up and actually buy it.
Another great video Peter. Very entertaining and educational. Enthusiasm does get the better of us sometimes. I was dead keen to get a table saw (after watching all the chaps in the US cutting everything on one). I'm sure someone has used one to cut their birthday cake. But after watching your videos, I am happy with my track saw and I think my fingers are happy with my choice.
I really like your considered humour ... this time 'more table than saw'.
Thanks Peter. I saw your CNC video some time ago and I also thought about getting one. I have to admit my main reason to think about buying one is that these things seem to be cool and fun to play around with - not that I really need one. I guess after this video I will think one more time... Happy New Year 2022!
Great video Pete.For me , if a purchase goes wrong it makes me think "why do i bother". Very disconcerting when they dont live up to expectation. Especially if its a job for someone { i hate impulse buys }
Thanks Steve! 👍
really interesting video Peter! one of my worst purchases was the old festool combination bevel for the rails. Whatever I did with it I couldn't get it accurate enough at any angle. Ended up buying a rail square from FC Tools in Scotland and that was a game changer! I believe festool have recently made a new angle stop, so clearly they didn't think the old one was much good either!
I also bought one of these on the strength of being a Festool. Could never understand how such a poor design could get past the product planners and testers at the company.
Hah! It's ironic that it was your "Playing with Spraying" videos that convinced me to by the Graco Ultramax! I've had mine for about a year now and I only use it occasionally and for small jobs. So far it's worked well for me and I'm happy with it.
Great vid, I appreciate the insight. I agree 100% on CNC as it's not right for everyone. I do have one and I keep finding new ways to use it. My worst tool purchase is a mig welder. I thought I would make metal table legs and it still remains new in box after 2 years. 300us was a great deal at the time. I should really sell it, but I can't bring myself to let go.
I sold an old, rubbish, table saw on marketplace. I did an honest and fair description and explained my issues with the saw to the buyer. He was happy as it filled a need he had. As long as you are open your conscience should be clear when selling / giving away.
Interesting to hear about the CNC. We are just on the cusp of buying one (getting tax payments out of the way first) as we are looking at doing one off or small runs of items.
Another good video Mr M! Thanks.
Thanks Aby! For one-offs and small runs a CNC is perfect - it’s just not something I really do, and even the smaller machines like mine take up a chunk of bench space in a small workshop. 👍
Super fun ... enjoyed your honesty. Really laughed out loud. Be well.
Thank you! You too! 👍
I bought a large batch of powertools from a bankruptcy auction of a construction company. Quality tools, but they hadn't been used kindly. I spent many days cleaning them up and going through all the missing parts and accessories. I like to keep my tools clean and in good shape, so eventually ended up just replacing most of them with new tools.
I agree with you about the Lamello P2. Bought one to quicken the building of a number of cabinets. Just could not get on with it. In the end used the trusty dominos
Brilliant Honesty on what worked and what hasn't. I try to judge all my tools on the basis of general usage levels across projects. I love my table saw, router, planer, jointer. The Festool domino is good, but I don't use it much and every time I do, I have to re-learn or I make some stupid mistakes, so its really a useful tool but quite frustrating. My CNC is similar, in that it takes a lot of design and other work to get it to produce things and they are never quite good enough or take 3 prototype versions before I'm ready to make the final piece. In general I try to keep to simple 2D stuff on the CNC.
3 for me; I have the Domino 500, and just love it. On a whim I bought the 700XL, ‘because I wanted it’ along with a load of accessories. 9 months later, having literally not used it even once.. I sold it to a very happy guy making gates, and lost about £300 or so in the process. (You’ll have to pry the 500 from my cold dead hands.) The other was at a similar point (I had some ££) I decided like you to look at spraying - bought a top flight Graco HVLP pro comp with pressure pot, and also the Graco Gx21 airless with hopper and extensions.. HVLP went straight into use, and is just superb, awesome results, easy to clean and being the big powerful one is surprisingly quick at larger areas without mess, as well as the smaller stuff. The Airless though, is about to be advertised for sale, literally unused, was a mad purchase, ideal for a decorator in empty homes but not for me. Lastly, the Mafell tracksaw that blew my mind, wonderful machine, love it to bits - decided to buy a cordless variant, just as a fabulous deal came up on the new cordless Festool so bought that - the Mafell hasn’t been used once since, despite being kept for indoor use I still reach for the festool every time. Also going to be up for sale!
Really great vid. Have been a subscriber since the beginning. Surprised by some of them but as usual you explain thoroughly which leaves no doubt as to why. Anybody that watches you could never seriously doubt you did not go through all possible solutions to get your Ferrari biscuit cutter connectors working correctly, way when the rest of us would have lost patience long ago.
Thank you! 🙌👍
That graco is renown for problems. Have a look at one of the "hopper" spray units, so much better!
Wow there are some expensive tools on that list. Glad I am not the only one living with bad purchases. My worst one was a scroll saw, was not expensive but still hardly ever use it and just occupies space.
Mine too but it was given to me so I will probably give it to someone else so it can sit on their bench not being used. 😂😂
Thank you for your honest opinion, Peter. I was almost jumping for Zeta last Xmas… but can’t justify the cost as a DIYer. Meanwhile, I am hesitating on selling either my Ridgid table saw with cast iron wings /belt-driven motor or my almost new Bosch reaxx(got it on sale two years ago, never put it on use, I know I know), I might got an idea now :)
hey Peter! Give the Fuji Q5 HVLP Turbine a look over, I'm a Cabinet Maker out of canada and I've been very happy with the results of the finish and quality of the unit. I would say the graco handheld units are more of a hobbyist tool hence the attractive price point, where the Q5 is more of a serious bit of kit. when used with 3m's pps2 system it's honestly rock solid and painless to use. Be a bit more open to spray finishing and don't let poor quality tool sour your taste to the possibilities spraying offers!
Great video, I don't think you should waste any time with that table saw, get rid & gain a bit more space. I can see your point about the CNC and the same could be applied to my 3D printer, sometimes its quicker to make a couple of parts in less time than it takes to design it and print it, but for other bits I need it's great to set it off batch printing while I get on with other stuff. Oh, and thanks for the LT Jig, very impressed 👍 👏.
Thanks! Yes, the LT jigs are a case in point; no way I could make those on my CNC in the kind of volume I need, and even prototyping them is a waste of time because the guy who does the work is just so much better at the software than I am. 👍
I made the mistake of buying a direct drive table saw many years ago, the tiny bit of backlash that the gearbox had meant that whenever I was cutting any sort of timber the whole thing would vibrate terribly. It seems the tiny bit of stretch in a belt drive takes out the "Buzz" from the blade cutting the wood.
Peter, I have to agree with you on these. For instance CNC machines. If they are at all useful in a typical woodworking shop then size matters. The bigger the better, but the price goes up astronomically with size. Unless you have a monster sized shop they take up valuable space that more appropriate tools could use.
I started with an Earlex Paint sprayer, which is nothing more than a vacuum cleaner in reverse, then upgraded to a Fuji sprayer. Both systems are excellent. I still use the Earlex at my cabin from time to time and get great results. I have used airless sprayers before and they can be a huge pain in the ass when they don't work well. The problem is that the paint is under very high pressure which is hard on all the parts, so they would just fail more often.
yep, sold my Lamello as well after about a year. Even with having both Domino's, still rely on conventional and pocket hole screws, and traditional joinery.
We've all been there Peter, and no doubt will be again in the future. But its all part of the huge learning curve we call life!
Happy New Year Peter to yourself and all the family!!!! Hope 2022 brings you health, happiness and you manage to stay safe throughout the year!!!!
Cheers from Sydney Aus!!!!
Thank you! All best from London! 👍👍🍻
Very very good point on CNCs. I used computer design all the time, it just works better for me, so a CNC would not be that far a stretch, to be honest, if I had the money and space, I would have already bought one. But computer design is completely different in a lot of ways and if you are not used to it at all AND have no interest in learning it (which I had and loved it), that would be a huge extra step to take you would not enjoy and that just to be able to use the CNC at all.
Dear Peter, it’s unusual for a professional to admit to mistakes as you have done. It just gives me more respect for you. When I’m debating which brand of something to buy I go to a product review site. You often find out surprising facts about a product which better informs your choice. If the model you’re interested in is not reviewed then that is reason enough to leave it alone. Cheers.
It is a good idea cutting by using the jigsaw a few milimeters fron the scribe line and with a fee degrees of inclination, this will help you to fit the infill as close as posibles to the wall bay using the rasp.
It takes a big person to admit his/her mistakes, so thanks for sharing. As someone suggested, put the still functioning tools on eBay with an honest description and reason for sale. Maybe donate the proceeds to a charity of your choice or buy the tool you really want, but can’t justify.
I really love your videos. You're a genuine geezer!
Thank you! 👍
Great informational video Peter and very honest of you to share. I still rate your presentation skills, excellent.
I also bought a table saw 1,5 years ago in a rush because it was a good deal on Ebay. The saw is actually good but the dust collection is so bad that I never use it. It is a good example what can happen when things fit to 90% but the missing 10% are actually very important.
Thanks for the video!
I almost would agree with you about CNC, until I began using V-Carve, it saved my cnc shop, and I couldn't be happier now. The Saw, set it on fire,,,satisfaction is worth it
Hi I have 2 10 inch Bosch table saw they run nicely and also have dewalt 54v portable table saw to take with me at work and is the best saw...so accurate
Happy New Year. Not sure this counts as a tool, I bought a car on a Saturday, which blew up on the Wednesday. £2000 up the creek. Oh the joys of youth. I am glad to say that my wood working tools
so far have only wasted about £10 on a small spoke shave that I just can't get on with.
Happy new Year !! Live long and prosper !!
For someone new to woodworking as a hobby that tablesaw will be great. Fitted with a new multiplex top and diy ripfence it will take years before they grow above it’s possibilities… would switch that lutz any time with my kinzo… the other tools would be awesome to own, but probably would almost never use them, just like you.
Feel your pain with the ultra max, great when it works. I’ve got a GX21 with fine finish conversion. Works great but it’s not cordless 😩
Shame about the Lamello - I was considering it for camper van furniture but was already doubtful about the effects of vibration/flexing - you've confirmed my fears. As to the CNC, I now have a 3000x2000mm monster with water-cooled spindle and vacuum table 🤪 - it earns its money with contract cutting jobs (mostly with plastics) so it's "free" as a tool for the van business - love it, couldn't live without it.
My own "worst purchase" must.be the Festool LR32 system - it was stupidly expensive and shortly after buying it I got the big CNC so I used it precisely once 🤬!
Love your videos - keep on trucking!
Thanks Jeremy! I'd love a full-size CNC, and can definitely see uses for them, but yes, I wouldn't trust a Tenso on anything that was likely to move or vibrate; Clamex maybe, but not the Tenso. 👍
Yes Peter, we all make similar mistakes. The positive thing about it is, we are smarter for having done it.
More table than saw - gave me a chuckle.
Interesting video Peter. My worst purchase. A Leigh dovetail jig ~ loads of messing about to set up when other easier joining techniques can be used. Used a couple of times and has sat in the shed ever since! They're not cheap either. Complete waste of money
I’m totally with you on Graco I literally sold it within a week of buying it so thankfully didn’t loose a stack of cash, with regards to the tenso they’re classed as a gluing aid and for things to be pulled in nice and tight you’re panels need to be nice amd straight too, if you like I can ask lamello to pay you a visit to see if there’s not any other underlining issues that you may have missed ? They’re a good bunch and extremely helpful.
Regards. Nick (interior Developments)
The issue with the tenso is during glue-ups - I had to add clamps to a self-clamping connector is ridiculous, and the comedy moment included here was just to show how poor they are - I'd have no hesitation in making that base to side manoeuvre with dowels or dominos, which aren't 'self-clamping'. 👍
"I'm tempted to take it outside and set alight to it!" That's brilliant 😉😆
Well, it will be for a short period while the aluminium goes up! 😂 🔥
Hi Peter, thanks for your honest review on the zeta after you had it a bit. Some years ago there was a huge wave here on youtube about the zeta which made it tempting of course. Today I actually never see it used again by the initial reviewers in their projects which to me looks more like it had been a lamello-birthday-marketing run to promote it.
I also use a zeta but I more rely on the clamex and find the newer clamex flexus a very nice addition apart from the divario ( i never used).
That said, I am not a professional user but it really helped me a few times to fix wobbly furniture with fixed shelf levels or so to stiffen it up a bit.
For knock down furniture it is nice, but from a more allround approach I'd opt for a domino as it is more versatile in most cases due to the size of the connectors.
I also more use the tenso as a prefixture so that it is less cumbersome to set clamps which is also nice, but of course not what marketing tells you ;-)
Great video. About time some more youtube I know everything admit to getting stuff wrong like the rest of us. I have a small shop with adequate tools to get me started but on my list would have to be the Evolution double mitre saw and triton track saw. Track saw cut 5mm off square out of the box and after adjustment still cuts a trench!! Evolution just doesn't have enough power. Awful machine.
Yep yep I Have a few of those, they are so heartbreaking because it's a tool that's actually looks good !
Man, i would be super bummed out by that table saw too, that sucks!
THanks for the confessional. Go in peace, my son. You are absolved. Good to know I'm not the only one!
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I was definitely expecting to see the table saw! Maybe there's a TH-camr out there with the skills and knowledge to make it a better saw. Just don't ask me who that would be because I have no idea, at least in Europe.
I haven't been woodworking for that long, but my worst purchase so far must've been the green Bosch PTS10 table saw. The table was so non flat that pieces that I ran through it varied a ton in cutting angle. Sold it and got a Metabo TS254 that has served me well!
I'm in Portugal and could do with a crappy table saw for cutting firewood. So just pop it in the post box. Thank you!
i felt the same about my zeta bought a standard blade now use it as a regular biscuit jointer
Loved this video, thank you for sharing🤘🙌😄
If I had a nickel for every bad purchase I’ve made, both cheap and expensive I could probably afford that table saw you have. Fortunately I had a friend early on guide me about what kind of table saw to buy and the “features “ to look out for. I’ve had it for 30+ years now. I love that I can adjust the fence to the scale and make accurate cuts all day long. This has not come without a lot of tweaking and after market accessories though. For me it’s half the fun I love anything I can accessorize. 😊. If I was buying today I think I would go the track saw route as downsizing has taken its toll. Thanks for a great video and your honest impression
Thanks! 👍
Now that’s a video I would like to see Peter. How to improve a table Saw. I have the triton work station with table saw module but I’d love to see what you could do with your saw. I at one stage had the Aldi saw with Jon heise fence plans and was impressed but it gave up here’s the triton. Please let’s see what you can do with your
Great video. Surprised at the lamello as everyone else I hear is raving about them. I see your point though. I don't fancy the Allen key holes so would be using the same connectors as you and as you say they just don't look strong enough. Like many, a great idea that just doesn't quite work by the looks of it. Makes me feel better now I don't need to buy one lol.
Always happy to help by doing the silly things, so you don't have to! 😂
"Power to noise converter" 😂
Big respect for this video!
Hi Peter, I'm with you on the Tenso connectors and only use them on specific joints. For me the Lamello Zeta turns into one of the best purchases I've made as soon as there's a few angled carcasses to knock out (using Clamex connectors). The huge amount of time saved in avoiding awkward clamp ups soon made me view the hefty price tag of the tool in a different light. The newer Flexus connectors have also helped out massively.
Perhaps the worst thing about the Zeta is when you have to buy new stock of the connectors. Even though you try to price them into a job, the initial forking out is painful and you can't help but think you're being had over!
Excellent video as usual. Cheers!
Thanks! Yes, huge fan of the Clamex, especially on bevels, as you say - but yes, re-sticking is a painful experience! 👍
I had that saw, absolutely hated it. I used the motor to make a my own table saw which I managed with for a couple of years, but don’t waste your time, just take the hit and get a decent saw. I haven’t looked back.
Sorry Pete xxxx happens we have all been there mate, Stay Safe Mate !!!.
After your purchase of the Graco I've nearly bought it a few times. I just couldn't get past that it uses dewalt batteries when I have had such poor experience with dewalt tools. Bought a bigger airless graco sprayer, broke it in two days, returned it, got an even bigger graco airless one after returning, and it is really inefficient in spraying something smaller than a wall, but works great at that... My other regret was a Festool half sheet sander. I really want it to be great, but I need to just sell it and a few other tools I don't use/have replaced with others that are lying around and buy a rotex 150 instead.
As for the table saw, remember two things; one, just because you don't like it doesn't mean someone else won't. Sometimes what you think is a flaw someone else will think is a feature. Two, their is nothing physically out of order with it. You may not like it's performance, but everyone can do their own research and make their own decisions on what they want, and if that turns out not being what they want, that is a good lesson too, and they again can sell it on ebay and go on and buy the other thing they want.
Im the same i used my table saw about 10 times in 3 years i use my band saw more often and track saw
Don't feel bad about things you shouldn't have bought your not alone.I have a few locked away in Pandora's cupboard in the corner of the garage. It fills me with dread when ever I go near it, when asked iam reluctant to explain what's inside.
Graco Ultra. My experience too, rubbish after the first 5 minutes. (First one replaced under warranty, second one patchy at best.) If I need to spray I use my Graco 390PC, it just works. The Ultra just sits on the shelf...
Life is full of marvellous coincidences my worst purchase was also a Lutz table saw. Fortunately I managed to offload it on Ebay a couple of years ago.
😂😂 Probably to me!
Absolutely love the true confessions! Who doesn't have some?
My thought is donate your 'ship anchors' to a school or organization. You'll feel better rid of them and perhaps even get a break from the HMRC taxman?
I got the anniversary Zeta P2, and I love it. I use it mostly for Clamex since they're almost invisible (especially if you choose carefully the location) or for standard biscuits. I never used the Tenso connectors, because to me they seem good to replace a nailer (like to hold in place cabinet profiles, for example) but currently I do not need them. Also a nailer in the long run will probably be way cheaper and more reliable.
My worst buys so far have been:
- a Trend pocket hole jig, with all the bells and whistles. It literally saw no use up to day (got it almost 3 years ago). Again, having some extra money generally lead to bad purchases 😅;
- a dowelling jig, fantastic piece of kit which costed me 70€ or something like that. At the time, I still had to figure out I was a "biscuits man" and tried to go with something nicer than nails and screws. I probably used that 3-4 times, just to figure out that, as Mike Pekovich says, dowels are great at "slightly misalign your work pieces".
I still have mixed feeling about my Precisio CS50: it's a great tool, but more often than not I reach my TS55 instead. That's on me tho, because I probably had the wrong expectation when I bought it. I was hoping to have a small panel saw replacement, but in reality the sliding table is only for relatively small pieces. It's great to do small cabinet doors and drawers, so I guess even if I got it for the wrong reason, I was able to find a usage for it. Still not sure if it was worth the money tho.
Best!
Yes, my Zeta is the anniversary model, and totally agree with you about Clamex - great connectors! 👍👍
Great video Peter! I was looking at the ‘fan in a can’.. but I’m going for the record also 👍
Good move! 👍👍
Happy New Year! My worst buy (so far) was the Charnwood air filter MC420... unbelievably load. No wonder Charnwood has discontinued it
Thanks You too!
Thanks for that Peter, very candid and entertaining. The surprise for me was the Lamello - I thought you were a fan boy.😉 Shame about the CNC but I suppose a bit like 3D printers they are ‘exciting’ bits of tech that look like a great solution - but if you have not got a problem you do not need a solution.