I just built this (bought your plans) with a few mods ... I see what you mean about the issue with drilling the pivots. What worked for me was to drill the holes first then cut out the pivots ... Works great and incredibly spot on! ... I had to do the 5 cut method 3 times, only because I was in such shock of how accurate everything was! (0.0008 over 26" !!) .. Its AWESOME and costs nothing in materials and takes no time to make with the full size printable patterns ... (This would be easy to do without the plans and I was going to go that route, but decided to support the designer and time it saves with the full size patterns its definitely worth it.)
Tremendously good idea and video. Solves all the problems you have been talking about for years that no one has done a complete job of solving. Thanks.
Peter, sorry..Mr. Millard, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are a genius. Extremely creative and innovative. You are the best problem solver in the business. Your silence should be paid for from the big companies like festol, makita and the like. I'm buying your plans Mr. Millard no matter what...thank you for your gift.
This showed how old I am. When you mentioned the cost, 1/10th of a sheet of plywood, I remember when we paid that for a full sheet! I recall buying a sheet from a joiner, and taking it home on my push bike, resting on the pedal and me preciously walking along side trying to keep it upright. I was still at school and was making some cabinets for my old mum. I did the same thing with a half hundredweight of gravel when I set up my first fish tank. No Amazon in the fifties!!!!
I LOVE this! I think it's great how you create a cheaper alternative to what us "professionals" use. This gives the DIYer, hobbyist etc a chance to use tools that otherwise they couldn't justify spending the money on. I think this is forgotten a lot by TH-cam creators. I use the Benchdogs rail square and HIGHLY recommend it but I also understand that someone who does a bit of hobby work in their garage can't justify over £100 on such a quality item.
Thank you! As I say in the vid, it scratches an itch for me, and hopefully it will for others too - the fact that it's significantly less costly than the commercial alternatives is a bonus, really. 👍
That hinge is pivotal (pun pun) to really smooth use of your no table saw approach. I have often wondered if there was an elegant cost effective solution to replace the expensive ones. It’s really nice to see an accessible version. Thanks for sharing. It seems like it could be a kit produced on a CNC machine. But plans might be perfect too. Thanks again.
Very nice and easy little project and vey well presented. I like it that you show a cheap alternative for super costly, overly promoted commercial products.
I made one from your plans and it's great. I also made the MFT from your plans and have the Benchdogs Fence with underrail support so the rear hinge needs to be offset 9mm away from the rear T-track to clear the underrail part of the fence.
This has been a journey Peter and the natural progression and development to this point could and would only be arrived at by you. As you know I’ve been on the road with you from the beginning and your itch has been my itch but the upshot is that every professional and DIYer on this viewing platform now has a solution that is practically effective as well as a cost effective solution to suit all pockets and capabilities. True existentialism in practice, wonderful Peter.
He ain’t got no distraction, can’t hear those buzzers & bells, don’t see those lights a’flashin’ he cuts by sense of smell… Nah, I don’t know how he does it either! 🤷♂️👍😂
Hi Peter, I just want to say thank you, as you are my "track saw guru" now 😂, most of the diyers in the US don't use track saw, and so I was having a lot of problem using my track saw as a table saw (because I really don't want to lose my fingers...), your videos are so useful to me, really really thank you!
What a clever implementation of the rail hinge. Well done Peter!! I especially like the pin idea for adjusting the thickness of material to cut. Seeing as you probably have samples of the more commonly used rails , how about offering a flat pack solution that would get us 90% there with just the customizing of the drill holes when we install.
Peter, thank you for this. I have a Kreg saw and a small shop. There's few accessories for the Kreg yet. This easy and cheap custom solution is the answer. Additionally, my MFT needs to also be an outfeed table, meaning nothing sticking up past the edge when needed. Being able to *easily* drop the front and remove/replace the track is fabulous! Your well thought-out videos have really changed my thoughts about how to get things done, drove the purchase of a track saw, and completely changed my work flow. I think the table saw and track saw are complimentary, the strengths of each supplement the weakness of the other.
As always Peter you have brilliantly executed development of this ultra useful, inexpensive fixture and produced a professional video to support it. I need to put a skirt around my (Steve Ramsey) BMW fit T track so that the front and back supports can be incorporated and then add the rail hinge. Can wait to see it available in your shop like the loose tenon jig.
Thanks Peter, You put an admirable amount of effort into researching and developing such useful alternatives that we can all have a go at. Absolutely appreciated.
Peter - Thank you for taking the time to put this together. In my estimation, the hinge system you designed is better than any of the commercial options. I will be buying a set of plan immediately. Nicely done!
Thank you! It’s a different take on the commercial hinges, and very much catering to my needs. Seems to cater to the needs of a few other folks too! 😆👍
Hello Peter, I really found this video very interesting because I own a parskside plung saw and I never found hinges for my parkside guide rail.This DIY version guide rail should fit guide rail.thank you for bringing out this interesting video
peter, nailed it on the first try------now for the hinges-----it took 3 tries but i got it!!! leave the size of the hinges big----drill screw holes and hinge (dowel pin) hole then dbl side tape together with dowel pin and one screw inserted and use your sanding disc to shape identical -----also, i made hinges from 12mm maple which does not split and chip during drilling thanx again for the plans/idea rick
Mr Millard, you've shown us many cabinets, wardrobes etc that you've built and installed, all usually from MDF which means you must use some edge banding technique or machine (Centuro ?) perhaps. We'd love to see how you actually edge band you work please ?
That is awesome Peter. Why don’t you market them in kit form like the loose tenon kit’s. I definitely would buy one, I’m sure lot’s of other people would too. Please 🙏👍
You make such beautiful things and most of the time I don't understand what you are saying because you talk rather fast but this project I completely got. Really beautiful! Love it!
I don’t think Peter talks too fast at all. Most other people’s videos I have to watch at 1.5 speed because they just drone on and on so slowly it seems to takes forever to get to the point. I really like that Peter gets right on track with the idea and gets on with it.
@@BigSteve215 I’m with you, Steve. Peter is one of few folks on TH-cam that I can watch at 1x speed without grinding my teeth. Sue, have you tried slowing the video down to .75? Of course, that will make it 13-minute Workshop. Hey, TH-cam! It sure would be nice to be able to watch videos at 1.1, 1.2, 1.25, 1.3… then I could watch things faster and get to more commercials sooner, making you more money.
@@10MinuteWorkshop I'm also fine with your actual speed of talking and the conciseness of the information you get across. What would really help me though would be leaving another second or two between "parapraphs" when editing the video, giving my brain the time to actually process the info before being flooded with the next idea :-)
Yes, I like it! I'll watch it again tomorrow, probably pausing frequently with possibly a rewind or 3 to absorb the subtleties. I'd probably be interested in at least the partial kit, if not the whole kit and kaboodle. Oh, you didn't mention the kaboodle!
Thank you sir for sharing this budget friendly rail hinge design for DIY/hobby woodworkers. I will be purchasing the plans for sure. Keep up the terrific content. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
Thanks! Yes, it all takes time to,put together, many prototypes, tests, and mock-ups. The hinge pivot geometry was particularly tricky to get right, but it’s working very well. 👌👍
Another great video Peter! I have had a couple of attempts at making my own rail hinge and I thought my latest one came out well but now I have seen the attention to detail you have put into yours I think I will have to buy the plans and make one of yours.
That's an impressive idea and build. To the question" You do have a track saw - don't you ?" I can now say "YES". I decided to give up struggling with a conventional saw and home made guides and get the Makita S6000 with a single 1500 mm track. I can now REALLY appreciate the benefits, not least of which is dust control ! I no longer dread the prospect of sheet cutting in the garage.
Cheers Norman! So many people forget about dust collection?extraction as a benefit of plunge saws when they say they can get by just fine with s sawboard and circular saw - effective DX makes a world of difference! 👍
A super well thought out job as always Peter! I had been mulling over how to make one of these for when I make my new workshop MFT later in the. year and had thought of a couple of ways to hinge the rail, but seeing your version, all I can say is WOW and thank you as always for your hard work in designing something that will be easy to make and save a packet over buying one of the proprietary hinges.
Peter, this is just the icing on the cake.Having built the budget MFT table, this was the item I was waiting for, and you have delivered, absolutely brilliant design, it will be nice to cut things straight and square with confidence, I'm off over to Etsy to get the plans. All the best
Wow! This is amazing and I need to have a go at making me one of these. My track saw is dewalt so I hope I can get a piece of track to use. I’m off to have a look. Great video, thank you.
A really neat design. You seemed to have managed to think of everything but keep it simple at the same time. I would definitely be interested in the hinge pack.
“And that’s pretty much all there is to it . . . . ”, oh how I love those words from Peter Millard. Because it means he has just presented us with a simple elegant solution to some woodworking problem that we amateur woodworkers can embrace and try for ourselves. Thank you Peter for another great concept and design.
Fantastic design and implementation. With the front riser holding the rail laterally it did seem redundant to have such a large overhang at the back. Will be picking up your plans
Just excellent, Peter! It’s been really enjoyable following your development of this idea over the past few months. The final version is testament to a lot of perspiration 😀👍
I was just today wondering when you were going to come up with your solution. I've been using my track saw to cut things that were too cumbersome to do with the job-site saw, and loving it. I concluded I might even go Festool, because although it's a bit pricey, it's way cheaper than a cabinet saw, which won't fit in my shop anyway. A good hinge solution is a must! OK, now I'll watch the video.
I'm deciding if I'm going to go with a separate MFT; build MFT features into my existing handtool workbench; or make an auxiliary MFT top that I can clamp onto the workbench top, a bit like a giant bench hook.
I built my version with two pivots, based on the double link you see on the plunge mechanism on the dewalt saw. That way, the rail is always flat on the workpiece, and you don.t need any front support. (I also used a home made rail too, so I was able to screw the rail to the pivoting plate). This design can be clamped in pretty much any vise on a workbench, and can be used from either side.
Hi Peter, after watching this video dare I say I may not have preordered another manufactured one! Bevel cuts, all I can say is if you aren’t careful it’s so easy to cut through the BD under support rail hmmmm well half way through lol Steve
Hi Peter, I received you kind informative reply and attempted to purchase the 3-D printed bar with embedded threads. Unfortunately it seems to be “out of stock” and I also got the message they don’t ship to Canada. I’m going to try to source the Festool metal bar. I assume that is theirs. I have ordered the Strawbyte Wastegate item and hoping it is on its way soon.
The design is very good, and has some improvements over the commercial products. The only failure point that I can see is the hinge. I'm afraid that over time the connection between the metal pin and the wood will get looser and becomes less accurate. I'm thinking of building a similar system, but using a stainless steel door hinge.
Only if you use one commercially. I’ve used this one daily for a few years now and it’s just not an issue. As mentioned in the video, the main reason for this design is the small overhang at the rear so the MFT can be used close to a wall. 👍
Amazing project! And as happy as I am with the Benchdogs one; you solved a few shared niggles in a way cheaper way! I’d definitely would have given this a go if I didn’t just spend a fortune :) Well done Sir!
I think that you have come up with a brilliant solution to adjusting the height of the rear hinge. I just purchased the plans and look forward to getting started building it. What I like the most is that you can remove the guide rail easily and get it out of the way. My MFT is out in the open, so removing the guider makes sense to me. Question: would it make sense to use pre-finished panel for the rubbing surfaces, like pre finished baltic Birch? And, does it make sense to add your Rail Hinge to an actual MFT3? John From Palos Verdes, California
Thanks! I actually quite like the slight friction you get with unfinished Birch ply, but that’s a personal choice - there’s no reason pre-finished board won’t work,if you prefer that. TBH my hinge has to be doing something that the MFT/3 isn’t doing for it to make sense, so either I if you have an MFT basic and want to add a hinge to,it without using the Festool OEM part, or if as you say, you want to be able to remove the rail easily, then it would make sense. 👍
Thanks a lot for the great idea and the great plans - I am starting to build this rail hinge, because it is so easy to remove the rail and put it back again, because I switched front and back of my mft because of the french cleat at the back, so the hinge is at the mft front and sometime it has to be out of the way...Wouldn´t it be nice to have a locking mechanism for the hinge part like the locking mechanism of the router lift from John Heisz wich works really great maybe with some excenter part pressing the riser spacers together?
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I just built this (bought your plans) with a few mods ... I see what you mean about the issue with drilling the pivots. What worked for me was to drill the holes first then cut out the pivots ... Works great and incredibly spot on! ... I had to do the 5 cut method 3 times, only because I was in such shock of how accurate everything was! (0.0008 over 26" !!) .. Its AWESOME and costs nothing in materials and takes no time to make with the full size printable patterns ... (This would be easy to do without the plans and I was going to go that route, but decided to support the designer and time it saves with the full size patterns its definitely worth it.)
Tremendously good idea and video. Solves all the problems you have been talking about for years that no one has done a complete job of solving. Thanks.
Thanks! 👍
Peter, sorry..Mr. Millard, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are a genius. Extremely creative and innovative. You are the best problem solver in the business. Your silence should be paid for from the big companies like festol, makita and the like. I'm buying your plans Mr. Millard no matter what...thank you for your gift.
Haha, thank you! And my silence can never be bought! 😂😂👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you, I have just bought your plans and I am very excited. Thank you once again for all your ingenuity.
Well done Peter mate. You've given this a lot of thought. Like the clevis pin height stop. Nice touch. 👌
Cheers bud! 🙌👍
This showed how old I am. When you mentioned the cost, 1/10th of a sheet of plywood, I remember when we paid that for a full sheet! I recall buying a sheet from a joiner, and taking it home on my push bike, resting on the pedal and me preciously walking along side trying to keep it upright. I was still at school and was making some cabinets for my old mum.
I did the same thing with a half hundredweight of gravel when I set up my first fish tank. No Amazon in the fifties!!!!
I LOVE this! I think it's great how you create a cheaper alternative to what us "professionals" use. This gives the DIYer, hobbyist etc a chance to use tools that otherwise they couldn't justify spending the money on. I think this is forgotten a lot by TH-cam creators. I use the Benchdogs rail square and HIGHLY recommend it but I also understand that someone who does a bit of hobby work in their garage can't justify over £100 on such a quality item.
Thank you! As I say in the vid, it scratches an itch for me, and hopefully it will for others too - the fact that it's significantly less costly than the commercial alternatives is a bonus, really. 👍
That is brilliant. The cost of an accurate MFT is heading south. Can't wait for you to price up the kit. Thank you.
what a lifesaver! your channel is just gold!!
Great job Peter! Very ingenious with clear instructions and will have a go when I get 10minutes. 🤣
Thanks John! 👍
That hinge is pivotal (pun pun) to really smooth use of your no table saw approach. I have often wondered if there was an elegant cost effective solution to replace the expensive ones.
It’s really nice to see an accessible version.
Thanks for sharing.
It seems like it could be a kit produced on a CNC machine. But plans might be perfect too.
Thanks again.
There’s quite a lot of material in them, and with current birch ply prices it doesn’t cost out, unfortunately. 🤷♂️👍
Very nice and easy little project and vey well presented. I like it that you show a cheap alternative for super costly, overly promoted commercial products.
I made one from your plans and it's great. I also made the MFT from your plans and have the Benchdogs Fence with underrail support so the rear hinge needs to be offset 9mm away from the rear T-track to clear the underrail part of the fence.
This has been a journey Peter and the natural progression and development to this point could and would only be arrived at by you. As you know I’ve been on the road with you from the beginning and your itch has been my itch but the upshot is that every professional and DIYer on this viewing platform now has a solution that is practically effective as well as a cost effective solution to suit all pockets and capabilities. True existentialism in practice, wonderful Peter.
Thanks David! Yes, it’s been quite the journey - and not over yet of course, but at least we’re at a stopping point! 😂👍
I am very impressed. Going to purchase the plans right now. Thank you so much for designing, building and sharing this!
Thanks, have fun with the build! 👍
I have got your plans and I am over the moon your hinge ,top gob thank you
Thank you! 🙌
I love the DIY hinge.I wrote to you before about the expensive hinges.This will do fine.
Simple and practical solutions = great designs. Brilliant
... and again Peter - THX a lot for your videos!
Great job bub i new if anyone could do and make this fantastic bit of kit it wood be yourself. Hats 👒 off again.. keep her lit....
Only just found you re the vid with Dennis Hooked on wood. You are a fantastic communicator. I am working through your back catalogue. Many thanks
Thanks, and welcome! 👍
You are THE BEAST !!! Talking about demolishing the myths !!! Bravo !!!
Got mine up and running, I couldn't be happier!
Glad to hear it! 👍🙌
He’s a tracksaw wizard, every cut piece just fits! A tracksaw wizard with such a subtle wit!!
He ain’t got no distraction, can’t hear those buzzers & bells, don’t see those lights a’flashin’ he cuts by sense of smell…
Nah, I don’t know how he does it either! 🤷♂️👍😂
@@10MinuteWorkshop Luv your channel!!
Hi Peter, I just want to say thank you, as you are my "track saw guru" now 😂, most of the diyers in the US don't use track saw, and so I was having a lot of problem using my track saw as a table saw (because I really don't want to lose my fingers...), your videos are so useful to me, really really thank you!
Thanks! 👍
What a clever implementation of the rail hinge. Well done Peter!! I especially like the pin idea for adjusting the thickness of material to cut. Seeing as you probably have samples of the more commonly used rails , how about offering a flat pack solution that would get us 90% there with just the customizing of the drill holes when we install.
Thanks! That’s the plan, for a flat-pack CNC version, but costs are coming in very high, so lots more work to be done. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop any movement on a flat pack version of this hinge system?
Hi. No, couldn’t get it to cost out, so it’s just a set of plans. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop sounds good!
Peter, thank you for this. I have a Kreg saw and a small shop. There's few accessories for the Kreg yet. This easy and cheap custom solution is the answer.
Additionally, my MFT needs to also be an outfeed table, meaning nothing sticking up past the edge when needed. Being able to *easily* drop the front and remove/replace the track is fabulous!
Your well thought-out videos have really changed my thoughts about how to get things done, drove the purchase of a track saw, and completely changed my work flow. I think the table saw and track saw are complimentary, the strengths of each supplement the weakness of the other.
Thanks Alan! 🙌👍
I always wondered why the hinge stuck out at the back so much, of course you need the over run for a full cut. Very good Mr M.
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As always Peter you have brilliantly executed development of this ultra useful, inexpensive fixture and produced a professional video to support it.
I need to put a skirt around my (Steve Ramsey) BMW fit T track so that the front and back supports can be incorporated and then add the rail hinge.
Can wait to see it available in your shop like the loose tenon jig.
Thanks John! Bit more work to do before it can become a product! 👍
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!!!!! It's like you read my mind!
I did! 😂
Excellent job Peter… the project is on the list. Just depends if I get to it before you hopefully decide to ‘productionise’ it 😉👍👍
Oh, I think you have plenty of time, Mike! 😬😂👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop 😂 yes thought that might be the case…. In fact plans ordered and downloaded plus all the other pieces…. No excuses now😉😜😜
Worth the wait Peter & ideal lunchtime viewing. A few of those parts would be ideal for 3D printing me thinks 🤔.
We 3D printed some of the pivots early on, and they worked well. The problem is getting the volume I’d need if it made it as a physical product. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Yes agree with that, I was thinking more for a personal build 😉.
Great idea Peter and Great design. Great work.
Thanks Peter, You put an admirable amount of effort into researching and developing such useful alternatives that we can all have a go at. Absolutely appreciated.
Peter - Thank you for taking the time to put this together. In my estimation, the hinge system you designed is better than any of the commercial options. I will be buying a set of plan immediately. Nicely done!
Thank you! It’s a different take on the commercial hinges, and very much catering to my needs. Seems to cater to the needs of a few other folks too! 😆👍
Simply brilliant, I have been throwing ideas around in my workshop for weeks on a diy one and you have just nailed it, thank you.
Thanks Gary! I’ve been throwing these ideas around for months, so that probably helps! 👍
That is an impressive bit of creative woodworking!
Hello Peter, I really found this video very interesting because I own a parskside plung saw and I never found hinges for my parkside guide rail.This DIY version guide rail should fit guide rail.thank you for bringing out this interesting video
Thanks Peter! Fine work as usual.
Thank you! 👍
peter, nailed it on the first try------now for the hinges-----it took 3 tries but i got it!!! leave the size of the hinges big----drill screw holes and hinge (dowel pin) hole then dbl side tape together with dowel pin and one screw inserted and use your sanding disc to shape identical -----also, i made hinges from 12mm maple which does not split and chip during drilling thanx again for the plans/idea rick
Peter, you are the man! I will definitely be building one of these! Thanks!
Thanks! 👍
Peter, brilliant as always, thanks for posting, hope you're well, have a good weekend
Cheers Paul! Yes, all good here, hope you are too! 👍👍
Mr Millard, you've shown us many cabinets, wardrobes etc that you've built and installed, all usually from MDF which means you must use some edge banding technique or machine (Centuro ?) perhaps. We'd love to see how you actually edge band you work please ?
Just purchased plan and looking forward to giving it a go. Also purchased the LTJ+ too.
Thank you! 👍
So great to see the finished article after meeting you and seeing the concept at Makers Central!
Looks really good Peter, and particularly that it’s full width.
Thanks Simon! Yes, it was an itch that definitely needed scratching, for me! 😂👍
Hello Peter, I also have the festool hinges, but I have also rebuilt yours according to plan. And I'm thrilled. Great Job.
Thank You . Thumbs up 👍
Thanks, that’s great to hear! 👍👍
the one I've been waiting for. pop corn at the ready
Sir, you are amazing. I'm beginning to think that give you two weeks, and you could come up with a DIY way to move the world.
Haha, that would be much longer than two weeks! And thanks you! 👍🙌
That is awesome Peter. Why don’t you market them in kit form like the loose tenon kit’s. I definitely would buy one, I’m sure lot’s of other people would too. Please 🙏👍
Thanks! I’m working on a flat-pack CNC hinge kit, but the costs are coming in very height at the minute, so lots more work to be done. 👍
The thought behind problem solving is always impressive Peter, it's not just a great idea, but very well executed. Thank you for sharing your skills.
Thank you! 🙌👍
You make such beautiful things and most of the time I don't understand what you are saying because you talk rather fast but this project I completely got. Really beautiful! Love it!
Haha, thanks Sue! I’ll try to slow down in future… 👍
I don’t think Peter talks too fast at all. Most other people’s videos I have to watch at 1.5 speed because they just drone on and on so slowly it seems to takes forever to get to the point. I really like that Peter gets right on track with the idea and gets on with it.
@@BigSteve215 I’m with you, Steve. Peter is one of few folks on TH-cam that I can watch at 1x speed without grinding my teeth.
Sue, have you tried slowing the video down to .75? Of course, that will make it 13-minute Workshop.
Hey, TH-cam! It sure would be nice to be able to watch videos at 1.1, 1.2, 1.25, 1.3… then I could watch things faster and get to more commercials sooner, making you more money.
@@10MinuteWorkshop I'm also fine with your actual speed of talking and the conciseness of the information you get across. What would really help me though would be leaving another second or two between "parapraphs" when editing the video, giving my brain the time to actually process the info before being flooded with the next idea :-)
Yes, I like it! I'll watch it again tomorrow, probably pausing frequently with possibly a rewind or 3 to absorb the subtleties. I'd probably be interested in at least the partial kit, if not the whole kit and kaboodle. Oh, you didn't mention the kaboodle!
Thanks Barry! The kaboodle is extra, of course… 😂👍
Thank you sir for sharing this budget friendly rail hinge design for DIY/hobby woodworkers. I will be purchasing the plans for sure. Keep up the terrific content. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
You are very welcome, thank you! 👍
You mentioned this many months ago and I have been waiting patiently ever since. Great work, Peter.
Thanks! Yes, it all takes time to,put together, many prototypes, tests, and mock-ups. The hinge pivot geometry was particularly tricky to get right, but it’s working very well. 👌👍
Brilliant work, Peter! Really well done! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you, you too! 🙌👍
My faith in you justified! I knew you'd get there sooner or later!
It takes as long as it takes, but we always get there in the end! 😂 👍
Another great video Peter! I have had a couple of attempts at making my own rail hinge and I thought my latest one came out well but now I have seen the attention to detail you have put into yours I think I will have to buy the plans and make one of yours.
Be interested to see how yours worked out Matt! 👍
That's an impressive idea and build. To the question" You do have a track saw - don't you ?" I can now say "YES". I decided to give up struggling with a conventional saw and home made guides and get the Makita S6000 with a single 1500 mm track. I can now REALLY appreciate the benefits, not least of which is dust control !
I no longer dread the prospect of sheet cutting in the garage.
Cheers Norman! So many people forget about dust collection?extraction as a benefit of plunge saws when they say they can get by just fine with s sawboard and circular saw - effective DX makes a world of difference! 👍
A super well thought out job as always Peter! I had been mulling over how to make one of these for when I make my new workshop MFT later in the. year and had thought of a couple of ways to hinge the rail, but seeing your version, all I can say is WOW and thank you as always for your hard work in designing something that will be easy to make and save a packet over buying one of the proprietary hinges.
Thanks Dawn! 👍
Peter, this is just the icing on the cake.Having built the budget MFT table, this was the item I was waiting for, and you have delivered, absolutely brilliant design, it will be nice to cut things straight and square with confidence, I'm off over to Etsy to get the plans. All the best
Thanks Tony! 👍
Wow! This is amazing and I need to have a go at making me one of these. My track saw is dewalt so I hope I can get a piece of track to use. I’m off to have a look. Great video, thank you.
Look forward to seeing this as a purchase in Etsy
A really neat design. You seemed to have managed to think of everything but keep it simple at the same time. I would definitely be interested in the hinge pack.
Thanks! 👍
Brilliant Peter, thank you.
“And that’s pretty much all there is to it . . . . ”, oh how I love those words from Peter Millard. Because it means he has just presented us with a simple elegant solution to some woodworking problem that we amateur woodworkers can embrace and try for ourselves. Thank you Peter for another great concept and design.
Thanks Gordon! 🙌👍
Fantastic design and implementation. With the front riser holding the rail laterally it did seem redundant to have such a large overhang at the back. Will be picking up your plans
Just excellent, Peter! It’s been really enjoyable following your development of this idea over the past few months. The final version is testament to a lot of perspiration 😀👍
Thanks Eddy! Yes, been a lot of work this one, and more to come. 👍
Nicely done Peter!
Thanks! 👍
Very clever! Straight to Etsy to get me some plans!
nice job peter they look a fantastic idea for those with a track saw brilliant thinking on the design
Thanks James! 👍
I was just today wondering when you were going to come up with your solution. I've been using my track saw to cut things that were too cumbersome to do with the job-site saw, and loving it. I concluded I might even go Festool, because although it's a bit pricey, it's way cheaper than a cabinet saw, which won't fit in my shop anyway. A good hinge solution is a must! OK, now I'll watch the video.
This is fantastic, have wanted one of these style tops for a while but was running into the same problem as you being a fixed workbench! Love it
Brilliant stuff Peter! 👍
Thanks Marc! 👍
What a superb idea Pete, time to get making one. Once ive finished making the new kitchen unit doors, shaker style lol. Great video
That self adjusting height is ingenious, you should patent it or whatever it is people do.
Very well done, for small work shop
This is such a great idea. I'm building a workshop and will defo have this track saw hinge.
I'm deciding if I'm going to go with a separate MFT; build MFT features into my existing handtool workbench; or make an auxiliary MFT top that I can clamp onto the workbench top, a bit like a giant bench hook.
Thank you Peter!
If you put it in a box, I’ll buy it. Would love a whole kit, understanding it would need assembly and custom holes.
Nice project Peter for space limited workshops 👍🏻
Awesome Pete, I've enjoyed watching your development process on ig , great informative video as well mate
Cheers Dan! Yes, been a fun one to put together! 👍
Thanks Pete I can’t wait to try it out
Cheers Bradley! 👍
I do wish you’d stop making these helpful videos as I now need to pop out to the workshop and start making one of these😎😎
On the hottest day of the year… 🤷♂️😂👍
I built my version with two pivots, based on the double link you see on the plunge mechanism on the dewalt saw. That way, the rail is always flat on the workpiece, and you don.t need any front support. (I also used a home made rail too, so I was able to screw the rail to the pivoting plate). This design can be clamped in pretty much any vise on a workbench, and can be used from either side.
I have a similar issue of my MFT being up close to my small workshop wall, which has put me off the any of the manufactured ones. Great vid thanks. 👍🏻
Hi Peter, after watching this video dare I say I may not have preordered another manufactured one!
Bevel cuts, all I can say is if you aren’t careful it’s so easy to cut through the BD under support rail hmmmm well half way through lol
Steve
Hi Peter, I received you kind informative reply and attempted to purchase the 3-D printed bar with embedded threads. Unfortunately it seems to be “out of stock” and I also got the message they don’t ship to Canada. I’m going to try to source the Festool metal bar. I assume that is theirs. I have ordered the Strawbyte Wastegate item and hoping it is on its way soon.
The design is very good, and has some improvements over the commercial products. The only failure point that I can see is the hinge. I'm afraid that over time the connection between the metal pin and the wood will get looser and becomes less accurate. I'm thinking of building a similar system, but using a stainless steel door hinge.
Only if you use one commercially. I’ve used this one daily for a few years now and it’s just not an issue. As mentioned in the video, the main reason for this design is the small overhang at the rear so the MFT can be used close to a wall. 👍
If you make the little hinge pack, adding in the rail attachment would be very useful.
Interesting idea. Thank you
Amazing project! And as happy as I am with the Benchdogs one; you solved a few shared niggles in a way cheaper way! I’d definitely would have given this a go if I didn’t just spend a fortune :)
Well done Sir!
Great video thanks for sharing your knowledge
Absolutely fantastic content Peter once again,I'll give it a try 👍👍
Absolutely fantastic
Thanks! 👍
excellent! gonna make one this weekend! thanks
Thank you so much for this solution.
Thank you for you effort. Might make me return to buy stuff on etsy.
I think that you have come up with a brilliant solution to adjusting the height of the rear hinge. I just purchased the plans and look forward to getting started building it. What I like the most is that you can remove the guide rail easily and get it out of the way. My MFT is out in the open, so removing the guider makes sense to me.
Question: would it make sense to use pre-finished panel for the rubbing surfaces, like pre finished baltic Birch? And, does it make sense to add your Rail Hinge to an actual MFT3?
John From Palos Verdes, California
Thanks! I actually quite like the slight friction you get with unfinished Birch ply, but that’s a personal choice - there’s no reason pre-finished board won’t work,if you prefer that. TBH my hinge has to be doing something that the MFT/3 isn’t doing for it to make sense, so either I if you have an MFT basic and want to add a hinge to,it without using the Festool OEM part, or if as you say, you want to be able to remove the rail easily, then it would make sense. 👍
Thanks a lot for the great idea and the great plans - I am starting to build this rail hinge, because it is so easy to remove the rail and put it back again, because I switched front and back of my mft because of the french cleat at the back, so the hinge is at the mft front and sometime it has to be out of the way...Wouldn´t it be nice to have a locking mechanism for the hinge part like the locking mechanism of the router lift from John Heisz wich works really great maybe with some excenter part pressing the riser spacers together?