@@overwatchtheater8165 the reason why "everyone knows" is because "everyone" keeps insisting on that "everyone knows" already. ive been in the hole for years now, and i still get new info thrown at me from the "forbidden lore" just because some people keep insisting on talking about stuff like that, and i dont completely ignore the comments. Its true as you say, we cant have a discussion without mentioning such things, but maybe then you SHOULDNT have those discussions in common youtube commentary fields in the first place ?
@@BulletmoafThis desu. Just because everyone in doxxing web talk about it openly, it doesn't mean that people should do it like that in open youtube comment section.
lol why not, you just create the drama with your clip, and then you don't want people to talk about it, you just want to milk views feeling morally superior, even adding sad music at the end for maximun effect, you are the definition of a double face hypocrite
@@Bulletmoaf it's actually surprising that all those "forbidden lore", were from my damned YT recommendations... Not comments lol I never even searched those stuff then whyyyyyyyy
My beloved grandfather passed away around a decade ago and even though I miss him, I know it's ultimately detrimental to me to have his loss on my mind 24/7. Mourning is not meant to be permanent. You mourn so you can move on.
@@orlagh277no, she got divorced from mafumafu after she was caught cheating (some sources say) with top donators. Edit, also she doxed some of the girls if you didn’t know that
@@orlagh277 If you're talking about her termination, here's a quick summary: a Discord message pop up on her last stream prior to her termination and she abruptly ended that stream. I thought it was minor honest mistake, but everyone on the internet who blew it way out of proportion seems to have a different idea. COVER back her up and ask her to lay low for the drama to blow over. Instead, she, as her other persona, decided to take things into her own hand by leaking stuff to a JP drama tuber to clear her name. Because that broke the NDA that she signed to get into Hololive, she was promptly terminated. If you're talking about AFTER her termination, there was a whole new rabbithole of drama that came up on her current persona. However, since a lot of that is tied to her private life, I will not mention any of that here. Edit: It seems like people have already mentioned it. But yeah, since there is going to be a court case over the allegation, I will leave the rest to court and not get involve in what should have been their private affair. I will say that I was disappointed in her and what has been proven to be true and that I do hope she will change herself for the better (however unlikely that may be).
It does hurt when you want to move on and someone keep reminding you. That's why I ask everyone to stop talking about my grandma before because my feelings of grief will gon' back.
Good on Noel, it must be exhausting to work so hard yet be constantly hampered by people who can´t let go of their nostalgia. (especially when you aren´t at fault for everything changing)
This is the right mindset to have. Exactly like Polka said last year, I believe even Nene even said it: You can still cherish old memories, but do not let them hold you back. Even though she had problems IRL even by that time, I genuinely believe Rushia did actually enjoyed her time as Gen 3. Some things are best left in the past.
imo, just because you can't see something, doesn't mean it's forgotten. Noel said she will still treasure those precious memories, but it's okay to move forward too. There are still things 3rd Gen wants to do and accomplish and negative comments like the ones she mentioned just bring down the hype when they do something. Let's celebrate what they're doing now and into the future. Thanks for the subs!
Thank you for this context, definitely shows that she's been thinking about it for some time. Always treasure the memories and lessons, but also a need to move forward and create new things.
Same. She thinks things out very well before she talks about them, and she's straightforward while still having an air of kindness and softness to lighten the blow.
Everything changes. People come into our lives through various ways, and leave just as variously. Someday, there'll be nobody left in Hololive who is currently in it. So enjoy who's here while they're here.
I used to feel sad back then considering how many contents were erase from Rushia's channel, but I'm really not sure how to feel now. Granted, I do have fond memories of that person though. Since I got into the Hololive rabbit hole due to her. And there were a LOT of fun stuff back then. It just feels bittersweet now. But yeah, it's definitely better to move on. I do still like "Uruha Rushia" the character after all.
I feel the same. Rushia is not my oshi but she is def my fav on gen3, really like her content and her collab with gen 3. I still like "Rushia" too, maybe this is why i didn't watch her other persona at all, because even though it's the same person behind but the "character" is different, there's no collab with other Hololive member anymore, Uruha Rushia has gone forever
All the same, I'll just remember her as Uruha Rushia. Not Nazuna, and certainly NOT Mikeneko. Sometimes it helps that you never look behind the curtain.
In the context of certain events in the Vtuber sphere, I'm just glad that Hololive continues to handle topics like this respectfully and safely. Good job Noel and all of Hololive!
Thanks for posting this clip, i remember not to long ago when people first found out about her removing the plushie when we got the latest news they were all assuming it was cause of that moment that she changed it, but she was already planning to do so way before then it turns out, things really get taken out of context just to make more drama
I think what makes it more sad was because Gen 3rd is the 1st Gen that solidified a "Gen". Rules of 1 month ban collab, Gen with "Group Name", the closest group to collab on themselves, and so on... But it's time to move on.
I still Remember Rushia. Man time really flies so fast, we miss her, a change of Renovation Should be good. Those Memories of Gen III with Rushia will never fade
The way she talks makes it sound like the company asked her to remove it. I kinda wish she had swapped it with something like a square cushion with a butterfly on it. Or a cutting board.
I do have to say, I love how a lot of Holo fan content still pays homage to past members. Like Sana in HoloCure/CouncilRyS RPG and Coco in Idol Showdown for example. But something like this does seem difficult for the Holomems themselves to want to keep up for the exact reasons that Noel mentioned. I’m glad she addressed it, maybe there’s a tiny little butterfly somewhere in her next room.
For me, as long as they're not taboo topics, then i'm ok with the talents not actively bringing it up. Like, feel free to mention it when it matters, but otherwise look to the future. And we fans should do the same. I miss Sana a lot, but for me i just want her to be happy and i hope that she's in touch with the girls. But i don't feel the need to remind everyone about her, except in very specific circumstances (basically whenever space or australia comes up)
@@Mentaljedi There was actually a rather hilarious interaction between her and Kronii's alts on Twitter a few days ago, reassured me that they still keep tabs on each other.
Yeah... I too remember the moments with Ru fondly, but knowing how and why things turned out the way they did with her... I want to keep those memories as just memories. Separate the artist from the art sort of. Mel has that same "terminated" badge over her as well, but the situations couldn't be further apart. I still hope she could be with us like she was. (I know she does still stream on her own and I follow her actively, but it's not the same.) Ru's situation hurts too, but in a very different light. In the light of why did she have to do those things etc. Memories are precious, but Noel is absolutely right. We have to move on and be happy with what we have now.
She's doing the healthy thing, considering everything that's come out about the person behind Rushia. Not the same situation as Noel, but kinda similar, I ended up buying Rushia's nenderoid back in the day. With everything that's come out about her, it's kinda bittersweet to look at, but then again I wasn't emotionally invested in her like someone like Noel would be, and like Noel, I'd rather just look at it and remember the laughs I got from her than the maddness I learned about her.
Hololive Fantasy was the first generation where they really felt like a proper unit. Everyone meshed so well and their characters and humor bounced off eachother very naturally. Its sad how it ended but it’s important to move on, really isn’t healthy living in the past like that. Even if it means stepping away from hololive if missing Rushia is still causing pain
The caveat is Hololive Fantasy still exists. It just has 4 members now. But, those four are still doing their best to present fantastical moments to the audience.
It's ok to be nostalgic and remember the good times, but we also need to make new memories, have new adventures. And who knows, maybe the new ones will be better than the old ones
It sucks that it ended the way it did but we will always have the memories and I think it's important to keep those happy memories untarnished. The problem is, if we keep reminding ourselves of the way it ended, those untarnished memories will eventually start to lose their luster because of negative feelings that will get dragged up thanks to recent events. Fantasy will always have five members and I will cherish the time I got to spend with Rushia. I don't want to ruin that.
Cherish the old times but don’t let it continue to hurt you inside missing the past. Look back on it and smile and appreciate the now with gen 3 and look towards a brighter future. And sorry for discussing alternate identities but you know some of do still want to stick by rushia as well, I hope maybe even a few people can go back to her now or atleast not be so hurtful to her.
I'm making something special for Rushia Even with everything that has happened, Rushia was with the gen i started watching VTubers completely I was able to be present the day she debuted with her 3D model So she's very special for me and as Noel said There's still good memories and i don't have plans on just forget everything because of recent events If everything ends well, i hope you all get my video on your recommendations
Sometimes its best to leave things in the past. Not to put words in Noel's mouth, but it seems like she would prefer to remember the past as it was, not influenced by current situations.
I'm pretty new. Got into the vtuber scene for real last July after my oldest friend passed. But much like our memories of him, we can't let the nostalgia and pain of what once was influence and tinge future memories with a hue of sadness and loss.
Noel is absolutely right. Keep moving forward and don't look back. It is unfortunate but there's literally nothing anyone could do to make it better. Just like Eren lol
I choose to remember the "Uruha Rushia" that had the chance to be a part of everything we hold dear, memories that I will cherish for as long as I'm able. I no longer have any desire to follow that person, because that person is no longer "Uruha Rushia", and doing so as it stands would sully my memory of those times. That's the long and short of it, without getting into the messy, uncomfortable how and why. Things change, people move on, so should we.
Just cherish what you have while it’s still around is all we could do, I know it’s hurt like even small things like talents changing banner feel frustrating. No one want happy thing to change, but it change and we have to live with it. so better try to put our negative feeling aside and try to let these Comedian make your day, like always.
Even on Council (Promise now) or 4th gen that they have a proper graduation still have to cut out member that don't belong for future. So this is nothing new. Tbh that she can use it for long time after Ruahia terminated is surprise me
Noel just stepped forward with her four friends. Whatever happens, Uruha Rushia is a beautiful memory for those who can no longer return, but Rushia's figure is still there in all collaborations with her friends. However, Uruha Rushia has played a big role in raising Hololive's name. Now Rushia's work is finished at Hololive. I just need to support her in other ways. Thank you for your wise decision, Danchou. I hope full for your succes.😁👍
I wish people would realize Rushia is a big ball of needs a lot of mental health help. She's caused a lot of damage both to people around her and to herself. Removing reminders of people who hurt you is healthy.
@@Sheriff_Curtis are we going to pretend she didnt say anything at all to japanese equivalent of keemstar that could potentially hurt, damage, or danger other talent personal lives? and ofc we're going to forget how much damage she caused to her ex husband lol. she's just a pretty, cute anime girl, she gets away clean fosho
@@Maruhodo Korekore and Mafumafu made everything up, Rushia's own statement released in 2022 states that she only ever shared a managerial discussion once.
Honestly understandable. It's best we leave her in the past with the good memories we had of her as the character we thought her to be rather than the actually mentally unwell person that she really is. Too much baggage with the person behind the character that it's honestly kind of damaging to the legacy of said character. And Gen 3 has accomplished so much after her leaving that it's not fair to constantly compare them to the version of them from 2-3 years ago. They're always working hard and achieving new things both as individuals and as a group of 4.
That music at the end reminded me of when fake Filthy Frank got hit with the BOI hand by the Roast Lord and as he lay dying, he had a flashback of when the wheelchair guy blocked his 3 pointer and said "Stephen Curry my ass."
It's understandable. Honestly, it would be harder to move on if Rushia had been doing well when she was with VShojo but things didn't work out for her there either and now she is in deep legal trouble while as a Indie. We found out things about Rushia that have been shocking - to say it mildly. It's sad what has happened - but just like Mano Aloe, we have to move on from Uruha Rushia, and we'll also have to eventually do the same for Yozora Mel. Going forward, we as fans are going to have to accept that any VTuber could end up disappearing and retiring at any moment - and in almost every instance there is nothing we as fans can do to stop it. That is why everyday a VTuber is still around is precious, because you never know when your Oshi will disappear like a Ghost.
This stream was on October. Before all the criminal stuff came out for Rushia. Damn. Why did she have to be a bad person. Also Danchou removing one plush from the sofa for each firing makes me hope she doesn't remove them for regularly graduated talents (eg like in Coco's or Sana's case). It'd be too sad to see that couch with just Noel's plush.
I would like it for people to not send such negative comments to make them feel sad. Doesn't matter if the girls would probably see it live or on the comments section
Yeah, this is the right mindset to have. And moving on doesn't mean you have to erase all memories of that person, it just means that you have to not get stuck on the past otherwise you won't progress on what you want/need in the future.
Rushia's clip was the first clip i ever saw of a 2D virtual avatar after Kizuna Ai back in 2020,, after that i was introduced to Gen 3 & all of Hololive and became a fan. What happened with Rushia was really a shame, but it made it easier for me to move on with 3rd Gen without her. Hololive fantasy was perfect then and is perfect now.
Honestly speaking. I would really like to see HoloFantasy / 3rd gen stays as 5 members. WHY IS THAT GREEN BUTTERFLY NEED TO BE A DAMN IRL MENHERA LIKE THAT.. Fucking hell man. She got a really good career then one slip-up on her stream and everything went downhill.. Everything got revealed and nothing good from that as well. If only she could think straight. From that mafumafu message, she clarify properly, she changed her personal branding from GFE content to a normal one.. sigh. All of it was just a dream now..
The way Noel phased out Rushia's plushie from her room was the best way anyone could have done it: gradually and tactfully. It's sad how things turned out with Rushia, but with all the things that have come out about the person behind Rushia, it's probably most sensible to move on completely and remove the plushie.
It sucks for those of us who have been there from the start, but this was just inevitable. It’s one thing if it ended in a positive note, but it didn’t. Considering what happened/happening, it doesn’t feel good but it’s best to just move on
It's best to move on, especially with how bittersweet I feel about her after all the revelations. BUT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT SO SAD AT THE END MAN
Danchou's right. No matter how good the past may be, we can't keep looking at the past. And moving on is important, but you need not forget those memories. The times when all five of them were together, it will always remain a precious memory to those who witnessed it, but precisely because those memories are precious, we can't continue dwelling on them. It's inevitable, you will remember those moments involuntarily but even still, look at *them*, not their past selves. Gen 3 is now a 4 people only group, please understand and accept that fact. I myself often look at the clips of those days, but Uruha Rushia is no more. Only her traces remains, the character named Uruha Rushia from Hololive Gen 3 is forever gone. Gen 3 has Marine, Flare, Noel, and Pekora. Look at these girls hardwork and activities.
@@Sheriff_Curtis maybe it is. But I said all this because I've seen comments and tweets here and there, wanting for Rushia to not be removed in the places she still is in hololive. Like, Pekora's twitter banner still had all 5 of them last I checked. In the beginning, I was really wondering how they'll do as group of 4, if something's gonna change. But really, they're all amazing and lovely girls (for me at least). I was coping at some point, and seeng Rushia moments still make me feel bittersweet. But, that's my personal problem. And my personal feeling is, that Gen 3 is doing really good.
I mean, yeah, it's been two years and all, but I still feel like she's part of the gen even if she's not in Holo anymore... Nostalgia really hits hard sometimes huh
While I do understand her reasoning, esp. as a corporate vtuber (that also has to keep brand unity / consistency in mind), I personally wish she'd keep an image of Rushia around. I guess it's a good thing she kept this room for so long. Maybe even on purpose (or at least not making any haste to get a new one). But let's also keep reality in check: 2 years is not that long. We keep photographs for lifetimes. The whole internet has drastically reduced the shelf life of any memory, meme, event etc etc. Which is not what we should be doing, I think. Memories made in the digital world are just as valuable. It's a benefit that indies have I guess, that they're more free to keep stuff around and just fill their backgrounds with stuff that's important to them and their friends, regardless. Ideally I hope she might have a little easter egg around, like a butterfly on the window or something. It's good to keep old friends and keepsakes, I feel.
I agree that Plushie Rushia was removed, frankly I was quite relieved when I saw this clip. what Noel said is true but unfortunately, "they" are the ones who don't want to come forward to face reality.
The commenters were right, Fantasy is not the same without Rushia, and it never will be the same without her, but what they need to understand is that it's ok to not be "the same." Things change, people change, even if Rushia was still here, gen3 wouldn't have been the same as they were before. Gen3 has only gotten better over time, and fans need to focus on these improvements they worked so hard on and see that they are in fact not the same, but better.
It's sad but for the good in long term considering Rushia is straight up a danger to herself and every one around her, hope she gets the help she needs and can move on as well. The Mori-kun example that was shared suits Kaichou instead of Rushia, she left to chase her dreams and is still loved by Hololive even now.
If people didnt cyberbullied her for 2 years and Mafumafu didnt ruined her chances moving forward with her life then she would have chased her dreams aswell.
Gen 3 with Rushia belongs in the past. That phase of Fantasy is done. Yes it should be remembered, but it shouldn't be treated as the present. Plus the farther Hololive moves away from the time bomb that is Mikeneko, the better.
Kinda understand because one of the purpose of v-tubers is for fans to be entertained to the personality/persona and not the real person behind. By this, the only wrong thing rushia did is that she was careless. Who knows, other v-tubers might be more vile than Rushia.
well i already move on a years ago after, i already see the fact.. so be it. her fans truly deserve something better, not a betrayal like that.. not only to the fans, she betray her company and her genmate like that, But IDO really hope they can move on also.. sometimes for other's, an idol is not just an idol.. sometimes it's a place for them to run away from life even just for a sec, chilling, laugh, enjoy ourlive, even give us a spirit to live.. spirit to work hard and else, if people lose the path, or the place for them to recharge all of that? lose the way walk, it's the nightmare we can't think.. maybe relying too much it's not good, but search other's happiness it's not easy for us.
At first i don't even know or think i will like some "vtuber's" back then there's a streamer who really good at imitate some anime characters, and i found her when in middle school when the first time i got so adicted with K-on, and this girl? damn, she was really good imitate all of members so accurate! and i found she also doing some seiyuu stuff, and she work as an artist illustrator and sometimes bring "rurudo" in the topic, her close friend (until now).. i also heard she's one of vocaloid member's (she even have her own album), and once become a mangaka even not for long because she can't handle the deadline, i only notice this girl and not to care or hype to follow... she's fun to watch actually, times flies she's really rare to stream again and somehow i forgot about it.. but when in 2019, the first time i know how vtubers entertain.. i found a random clip in facebook a grup of vtubers playing "project winters", it makes me laugh and there's a person i see who always have moment to talk and make a jokes even conversation that i think this was a core of this stream.. but other's sometimes bullying her and make a fun of her.. it's like that's her part in the stream, i feel bad for it but yeah it's make the stream really fun.. i started to watch the other clip and other, and i got adicted by 1 person, and i decide to follow her journey.. and that's make me notice after i watch again and again, it's... the same person i watch backthen wtf her voice, how she laugh.. especially how hype she talk about her dad and her sister is, yeah it's her.. and i notice before this she was also a vtuber mangaka actually in 2017, their content was make an animation manga and the make the voice of that.. and that's lead me to the gen 3, all i know? almost all the holofans agree that Gen 3 was the best gen ever COVER corp made, and yeah it is... all of it have their own talent, their own skill to entertain people.. and they really lead the hololive get notice more by other's.. but it's sad when i watch the news 1 of them have a drama, i just want cover defend her after we lose 1 person too already, and yeah cover make a promise and tweet they will help the investigation and protect their talent.. while they helping, i found a guy who always talk about rushia condition, i was like "Who TF is this guy?" he said he just want to help her, he was her close friend too and rushia give him an info and she want him to give to that info to his viewers.. all i know she just want the fans didn't calm with that, after this guy said "actually rushia said to me to not tell about this..." and yeah he talk about it :') the day after? "TERMINATION" LOL if she remain silent i was sure 99% she will okey, how can? there's also other talent who get the same drama btw.. she take a hiatus and cover doin their job, and now? she still here until now, even this talent is more greeny or still new than rushia.. i feel bad for her AT FIRST, and i was like god damn u Mafu mafu.. but after i jump to deep to it, and finally the victim speakup and give us the proof and fact? and it confirm he was the ex husband of her? damn u Rushia, i know mafu mafu because of in my place there's a lot my girl friend was like him, he's a singer, composer and else who also make vocaloid song, he was famous.. but that famous has a dark past actually, he was a victim of bullying in his school backthen, have a toxic society and he can move on until he success.. but after he got a wife that he think she will make his life more better? but it's not, how she cheated him, even have a S*X with other guy!? and even this guy helping mafu mafu to give the Screenshot of her chat and else.. and this guy really saying sorry to mafu because he didn;t know this girl already married, while she's the one who want to make no one know her realtionship, and only her close friend who know.. but she do that for cheating even accuse mafu was the one who cheat she said? this girl already insane for me, a menhera Vtuber with also an IRL menhera.
i think if we talking about gen that reduced by one the best example we got is gen 5, they never called themselves as gen 5 but nepolabo instead and the fans never bothered them with that kind of comment that noel didnt like.
The difference is that the Aloe situation happened at the very start of her journey, the fans didn't have much time to know them as a 5 person generation so when it was reduced to 4 people there wasn't much to be nostalgic about, NePoLaBo wasn't adopted immediately and they did continue for a while to acknowledge they were a 5 person gen since it surprised many that they openly talked about Aloe without making being vague or beating around the bush like many others did when it came to talking about past members so the fans didnt pester them as much since they were open about it, when you lose a member like Rushia,Mel,or Coco who have been around a while in their respective group then the void they leave behind is alot harder to cover up than one left by Aloe
"they never called themselves as gen 5" Lol. No. They straight-up first announced themselves as "HoloFive" Why would they call themselves "NePoLaBo" when Aloe was still there? To harass her? What a dumb attempt at rewriting history... or just an insane case of self-confidence borne of ignorance.
Look, regardless how you personally feel about Tushia after more recent info came to light can y'all bstop trying bto instigate beef and rile up anti behavior?
I understand her sentiments, but it’ll never not feel like there’s someone missing for me. Third Gen was practically defined by how close they were and how well they’ll they synergized. I know Rushia eventually pulled away and got into toxic stuff and ultimately got terminated, but my memory of 3rd Gen - hell, my memory of Hololive, to a great extent - is partially defined by her presence. Not to the extent of Coco, who was and is and will always be my oshi, but still a defining feature of Hololive as I’ll remember it.
Rushia was my second favourite along with Marine. I know it's her fault she got fired but it didn't make it less painful to see her leave. I totally understand Noel updating the room though. She's mourned long enough
Very reasonable Noel here. If anyone knows anything about Rushia post-Hololive, then you know it's probably better for Gen 3 to leave her behind, but still appreciate the good times they had.
I have no personal beef with Rushia because I wasn't a fan. I don't really like doing the parasocial thing and that was what she was all about. However, even I know she tarnished her reputation to degrees that would really make others not want to associate with her.
It really is a shame, Rushia was such a cool character. Had a color scheme unlike any other character in hololive and was the only necromancer in the cast. I like the aesthetic of the small girl with power to raise the dead and a bad temper/attachment issues. (Speaking about the character only and how she was portrayed of course, nothing more)
What they have is no obligation to keep her image around - if Noel felt removing it is for the best, she's in her full right. Some may see a reason to keep it - Matsuri for example, who said she wouldn't change her Twitter banner, and still hasn't.
No discussions about the alternative identities of current corporate vtubers, please.
Literally everyone knows. Can't really have any discussion about some of the major ideas floating around here without mentioning these identities.
@@overwatchtheater8165 the reason why "everyone knows" is because "everyone" keeps insisting on that "everyone knows" already. ive been in the hole for years now, and i still get new info thrown at me from the "forbidden lore" just because some people keep insisting on talking about stuff like that, and i dont completely ignore the comments. Its true as you say, we cant have a discussion without mentioning such things, but maybe then you SHOULDNT have those discussions in common youtube commentary fields in the first place ?
@@BulletmoafThis desu. Just because everyone in doxxing web talk about it openly, it doesn't mean that people should do it like that in open youtube comment section.
lol why not, you just create the drama with your clip, and then you don't want people to talk about it, you just want to milk views feeling morally superior, even adding sad music at the end for maximun effect, you are the definition of a double face hypocrite
@@Bulletmoaf it's actually surprising that all those "forbidden lore", were from my damned YT recommendations... Not comments lol
I never even searched those stuff then whyyyyyyyy
You can’t let the old memories keep you from making new ones
I think Noel is absolutely right either way. It’s unfortunate that it ended like that for Rushia, but we have to move on
My beloved grandfather passed away around a decade ago and even though I miss him, I know it's ultimately detrimental to me to have his loss on my mind 24/7.
Mourning is not meant to be permanent. You mourn so you can move on.
@@JanitorAntisocial I don't follow the drama stuff, Rushia died?
@@orlagh277no, she got divorced from mafumafu after she was caught cheating (some sources say) with top donators.
Edit, also she doxed some of the girls if you didn’t know that
@@orlagh277 She have been (allegedly) abusing her relationship partner for years.
@@orlagh277 If you're talking about her termination, here's a quick summary: a Discord message pop up on her last stream prior to her termination and she abruptly ended that stream. I thought it was minor honest mistake, but everyone on the internet who blew it way out of proportion seems to have a different idea. COVER back her up and ask her to lay low for the drama to blow over. Instead, she, as her other persona, decided to take things into her own hand by leaking stuff to a JP drama tuber to clear her name. Because that broke the NDA that she signed to get into Hololive, she was promptly terminated.
If you're talking about AFTER her termination, there was a whole new rabbithole of drama that came up on her current persona. However, since a lot of that is tied to her private life, I will not mention any of that here.
Edit: It seems like people have already mentioned it. But yeah, since there is going to be a court case over the allegation, I will leave the rest to court and not get involve in what should have been their private affair. I will say that I was disappointed in her and what has been proven to be true and that I do hope she will change herself for the better (however unlikely that may be).
It does hurt when you want to move on and someone keep reminding you. That's why I ask everyone to stop talking about my grandma before because my feelings of grief will gon' back.
I hope you're doing well now, bro.
it's time to move on
and walk forward to the future
Isn’t it ironic that Rushia is a necromancer?
Someone who keeps bringing back dead things that’s have already gone, as if they can’t let go….
Good on Noel, it must be exhausting to work so hard yet be constantly hampered by people who can´t let go of their nostalgia. (especially when you aren´t at fault for everything changing)
This is the right mindset to have. Exactly like Polka said last year, I believe even Nene even said it: You can still cherish old memories, but do not let them hold you back.
Even though she had problems IRL even by that time, I genuinely believe Rushia did actually enjoyed her time as Gen 3. Some things are best left in the past.
imo, just because you can't see something, doesn't mean it's forgotten. Noel said she will still treasure those precious memories, but it's okay to move forward too. There are still things 3rd Gen wants to do and accomplish and negative comments like the ones she mentioned just bring down the hype when they do something. Let's celebrate what they're doing now and into the future.
Thanks for the subs!
"I treasure our memories but we have to move forward." Well said.
Also, that is one impressive mug.
That's a stein if anything!
Thank you for this context, definitely shows that she's been thinking about it for some time. Always treasure the memories and lessons, but also a need to move forward and create new things.
this right here is why i adore noel
Same. She thinks things out very well before she talks about them, and she's straightforward while still having an air of kindness and softness to lighten the blow.
@@Micheldied The "tobrut baik" as approved by Risu and Iofi. XD
One of the many reasons
I started watching holo around when fantasy debuted. Was a wild ride
very sad. but very understandable. thanks danchou.
the way she talks very emotionally mature with such a cutesy voice is just lovely
Nothing lasts forever.
Unless you’re a necromancer….
…oh no….
@@ciontachthecthonicchampion3576 Certainly not a Necromancer. Necromancers are just failed Liches.
Everything changes. People come into our lives through various ways, and leave just as variously. Someday, there'll be nobody left in Hololive who is currently in it. So enjoy who's here while they're here.
I used to feel sad back then considering how many contents were erase from Rushia's channel, but I'm really not sure how to feel now. Granted, I do have fond memories of that person though. Since I got into the Hololive rabbit hole due to her. And there were a LOT of fun stuff back then. It just feels bittersweet now. But yeah, it's definitely better to move on. I do still like "Uruha Rushia" the character after all.
Its fine to feel mixed, and fine not to have a definite answer. Life isn't that simple
I feel the same. Rushia is not my oshi but she is def my fav on gen3, really like her content and her collab with gen 3. I still like "Rushia" too, maybe this is why i didn't watch her other persona at all, because even though it's the same person behind but the "character" is different, there's no collab with other Hololive member anymore, Uruha Rushia has gone forever
Sadly she become amber head version of hololive
All the same, I'll just remember her as Uruha Rushia. Not Nazuna, and certainly NOT Mikeneko. Sometimes it helps that you never look behind the curtain.
Yes, because the real person is really awful
In the context of certain events in the Vtuber sphere, I'm just glad that Hololive continues to handle topics like this respectfully and safely.
Good job Noel and all of Hololive!
Thanks for posting this clip, i remember not to long ago when people first found out about her removing the plushie when we got the latest news they were all assuming it was cause of that moment that she changed it, but she was already planning to do so way before then it turns out, things really get taken out of context just to make more drama
I think what makes it more sad was because Gen 3rd is the 1st Gen that solidified a "Gen".
Rules of 1 month ban collab, Gen with "Group Name", the closest group to collab on themselves, and so on...
But it's time to move on.
Rushia plushie disappeared starting February 2024.
I still Remember Rushia. Man time really flies so fast, we miss her, a change of Renovation Should be good. Those Memories of Gen III with Rushia will never fade
The way she talks makes it sound like the company asked her to remove it. I kinda wish she had swapped it with something like a square cushion with a butterfly on it.
Or a cutting board.
as the exile now wandering in the vtuber afterlife to no return, moving on is a must indeed.
I do have to say, I love how a lot of Holo fan content still pays homage to past members. Like Sana in HoloCure/CouncilRyS RPG and Coco in Idol Showdown for example.
But something like this does seem difficult for the Holomems themselves to want to keep up for the exact reasons that Noel mentioned. I’m glad she addressed it, maybe there’s a tiny little butterfly somewhere in her next room.
For me, as long as they're not taboo topics, then i'm ok with the talents not actively bringing it up. Like, feel free to mention it when it matters, but otherwise look to the future. And we fans should do the same. I miss Sana a lot, but for me i just want her to be happy and i hope that she's in touch with the girls. But i don't feel the need to remind everyone about her, except in very specific circumstances (basically whenever space or australia comes up)
@@Mentaljedi There was actually a rather hilarious interaction between her and Kronii's alts on Twitter a few days ago, reassured me that they still keep tabs on each other.
The difference is those guys quit. They weren't terminated.
@@CybersteelExAnd? Mel was terminated but that doesn't make her an evil unspeakable person.
@@Sheriff_Curtis Because what Mel did was an honest mistake.
IT WAS FORETOLD
Noel will forever be a real one for the mic thing
Yeah... I too remember the moments with Ru fondly, but knowing how and why things turned out the way they did with her... I want to keep those memories as just memories. Separate the artist from the art sort of. Mel has that same "terminated" badge over her as well, but the situations couldn't be further apart. I still hope she could be with us like she was. (I know she does still stream on her own and I follow her actively, but it's not the same.) Ru's situation hurts too, but in a very different light. In the light of why did she have to do those things etc.
Memories are precious, but Noel is absolutely right. We have to move on and be happy with what we have now.
She's doing the healthy thing, considering everything that's come out about the person behind Rushia.
Not the same situation as Noel, but kinda similar, I ended up buying Rushia's nenderoid back in the day. With everything that's come out about her, it's kinda bittersweet to look at, but then again I wasn't emotionally invested in her like someone like Noel would be, and like Noel, I'd rather just look at it and remember the laughs I got from her than the maddness I learned about her.
Hololive Fantasy was the first generation where they really felt like a proper unit. Everyone meshed so well and their characters and humor bounced off eachother very naturally. Its sad how it ended but it’s important to move on, really isn’t healthy living in the past like that. Even if it means stepping away from hololive if missing Rushia is still causing pain
The caveat is Hololive Fantasy still exists. It just has 4 members now. But, those four are still doing their best to present fantastical moments to the audience.
pekora still keep her twitter banner fantasy 5..... its ok to move on....
She probably forget to remove it.
@@signumxmagnumOR maybe she didn't, stop trying to instigate beef
@@signumxmagnumIf she forget, it's probably not important to her
Noel's still has all 5 of them on stage, I just don't think they update their banners often 😂
Meanwhile, Natsuiro Matsuri's Twitter banner (at least as of this posting) is a group shot from when Coco was still around.
The past is precious but if you cling to it too much, you'll never move forward.
stay strong oshi! 💪 lets chase the future and create new memories 😚
It's ok to be nostalgic and remember the good times, but we also need to make new memories, have new adventures. And who knows, maybe the new ones will be better than the old ones
It sucks that it ended the way it did but we will always have the memories and I think it's important to keep those happy memories untarnished. The problem is, if we keep reminding ourselves of the way it ended, those untarnished memories will eventually start to lose their luster because of negative feelings that will get dragged up thanks to recent events.
Fantasy will always have five members and I will cherish the time I got to spend with Rushia. I don't want to ruin that.
Cherish the old times but don’t let it continue to hurt you inside missing the past. Look back on it and smile and appreciate the now with gen 3 and look towards a brighter future. And sorry for discussing alternate identities but you know some of do still want to stick by rushia as well, I hope maybe even a few people can go back to her now or atleast not be so hurtful to her.
I'm making something special for Rushia
Even with everything that has happened, Rushia was with the gen i started watching VTubers completely
I was able to be present the day she debuted with her 3D model
So she's very special for me and as Noel said
There's still good memories and i don't have plans on just forget everything because of recent events
If everything ends well, i hope you all get my video on your recommendations
Same here.
It's important to support our oshis through thick and thin.
Love it or not she was right and time sorted all thing out in the end.
Im already not thinking about it, until this…
*_Now it hurts again._*
People are sad, that there are only 4 of them now. But people don't realize, that someday there might not even be 4.
“We have to move forward
Also she cray-cray. I’m afraid that necromancer will find some way to reverse voodoo curse me through her doll so…”
Sometimes its best to leave things in the past. Not to put words in Noel's mouth, but it seems like she would prefer to remember the past as it was, not influenced by current situations.
We understand. Gen 3 will always be my favorite gen be it 4 or 5 members
I'm pretty new. Got into the vtuber scene for real last July after my oldest friend passed. But much like our memories of him, we can't let the nostalgia and pain of what once was influence and tinge future memories with a hue of sadness and loss.
Noel is absolutely right. Keep moving forward and don't look back. It is unfortunate but there's literally nothing anyone could do to make it better. Just like Eren lol
I choose to remember the "Uruha Rushia" that had the chance to be a part of everything we hold dear, memories that I will cherish for as long as I'm able.
I no longer have any desire to follow that person, because that person is no longer "Uruha Rushia", and doing so as it stands would sully my memory of those times.
That's the long and short of it, without getting into the messy, uncomfortable how and why. Things change, people move on, so should we.
"The accident wasn't your fault. You have to move on."
Just cherish what you have while it’s still around is all we could do, I know it’s hurt like even small things like talents changing banner feel frustrating. No one want happy thing to change, but it change and we have to live with it. so better try to put our negative feeling aside and try to let these Comedian make your day, like always.
Even on Council (Promise now) or 4th gen that they have a proper graduation still have to cut out member that don't belong for future. So this is nothing new. Tbh that she can use it for long time after Ruahia terminated is surprise me
Noel just stepped forward with her four friends. Whatever happens, Uruha Rushia is a beautiful memory for those who can no longer return, but Rushia's figure is still there in all collaborations with her friends. However, Uruha Rushia has played a big role in raising Hololive's name. Now Rushia's work is finished at Hololive. I just need to support her in other ways. Thank you for your wise decision, Danchou. I hope full for your succes.😁👍
I wish people would realize Rushia is a big ball of needs a lot of mental health help. She's caused a lot of damage both to people around her and to herself. Removing reminders of people who hurt you is healthy.
Who did she hurt in Hololive specifically?
@@Sheriff_Curtis are we going to pretend she didnt say anything at all to japanese equivalent of keemstar that could potentially hurt, damage, or danger other talent personal lives?
and ofc we're going to forget how much damage she caused to her ex husband lol. she's just a pretty, cute anime girl, she gets away clean fosho
@@Maruhodo Korekore and Mafumafu made everything up, Rushia's own statement released in 2022 states that she only ever shared a managerial discussion once.
Honestly understandable.
It's best we leave her in the past with the good memories we had of her as the character we thought her to be rather than the actually mentally unwell person that she really is.
Too much baggage with the person behind the character that it's honestly kind of damaging to the legacy of said character.
And Gen 3 has accomplished so much after her leaving that it's not fair to constantly compare them to the version of them from 2-3 years ago. They're always working hard and achieving new things both as individuals and as a group of 4.
2:55 So this is the story, i didn't know this stream and just saw the screenshot of her background from 5 plushies, covered by mic, them 4 plushies
I also want people to look at the present and future and stop talking about the past everytime the 3rdGen does something together.
*4th Gen.
Or *Councilrys.
That music at the end reminded me of when fake Filthy Frank got hit with the BOI hand by the Roast Lord and as he lay dying, he had a flashback of when the wheelchair guy blocked his 3 pointer and said "Stephen Curry my ass."
Friggin wheelz blocking this dumbass fake frank 🤣🤣
she handled this well but I think the only ones who will be upset are the schizos 💀
Moving forward isn't something Vtuber fans are known to do. 🤷
It's understandable. Honestly, it would be harder to move on if Rushia had been doing well when she was with VShojo but things didn't work out for her there either and now she is in deep legal trouble while as a Indie. We found out things about Rushia that have been shocking - to say it mildly. It's sad what has happened - but just like Mano Aloe, we have to move on from Uruha Rushia, and we'll also have to eventually do the same for Yozora Mel.
Going forward, we as fans are going to have to accept that any VTuber could end up disappearing and retiring at any moment - and in almost every instance there is nothing we as fans can do to stop it. That is why everyday a VTuber is still around is precious, because you never know when your Oshi will disappear like a Ghost.
This stream was on October. Before all the criminal stuff came out for Rushia. Damn. Why did she have to be a bad person. Also Danchou removing one plush from the sofa for each firing makes me hope she doesn't remove them for regularly graduated talents (eg like in Coco's or Sana's case). It'd be too sad to see that couch with just Noel's plush.
I would like it for people to not send such negative comments to make them feel sad. Doesn't matter if the girls would probably see it live or on the comments section
Yeah, this is the right mindset to have. And moving on doesn't mean you have to erase all memories of that person, it just means that you have to not get stuck on the past otherwise you won't progress on what you want/need in the future.
Rushia's clip was the first clip i ever saw of a 2D virtual avatar after Kizuna Ai back in 2020,, after that i was introduced to Gen 3 & all of Hololive and became a fan. What happened with Rushia was really a shame, but it made it easier for me to move on with 3rd Gen without her. Hololive fantasy was perfect then and is perfect now.
Honestly speaking.
I would really like to see HoloFantasy / 3rd gen stays as 5 members.
WHY IS THAT GREEN BUTTERFLY NEED TO BE A DAMN IRL MENHERA LIKE THAT.. Fucking hell man. She got a really good career then one slip-up on her stream and everything went downhill.. Everything got revealed and nothing good from that as well.
If only she could think straight. From that mafumafu message, she clarify properly, she changed her personal branding from GFE content to a normal one.. sigh.
All of it was just a dream now..
You cannot predict the menhara
It just happens and is painful
Mafumafu and Korekore actually made everything up. She's never actually done anything wrong.
The way Noel phased out Rushia's plushie from her room was the best way anyone could have done it: gradually and tactfully. It's sad how things turned out with Rushia, but with all the things that have come out about the person behind Rushia, it's probably most sensible to move on completely and remove the plushie.
It sucks for those of us who have been there from the start, but this was just inevitable. It’s one thing if it ended in a positive note, but it didn’t.
Considering what happened/happening, it doesn’t feel good but it’s best to just move on
the contract termination was 2 years ago. it's time to move on. 👈😔 this meme, but unironically.
It's best to move on, especially with how bittersweet I feel about her after all the revelations. BUT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT SO SAD AT THE END MAN
o7 🦋
based
Who's Rem moment
Rushia? Never heard of her!
RUSHIAAAAA 😭😭🤣
😔
Danchou's right.
No matter how good the past may be, we can't keep looking at the past.
And moving on is important, but you need not forget those memories.
The times when all five of them were together, it will always remain a precious memory to those who witnessed it, but precisely because those memories are precious, we can't continue dwelling on them.
It's inevitable, you will remember those moments involuntarily but even still, look at *them*, not their past selves.
Gen 3 is now a 4 people only group, please understand and accept that fact.
I myself often look at the clips of those days, but Uruha Rushia is no more. Only her traces remains, the character named Uruha Rushia from Hololive Gen 3 is forever gone.
Gen 3 has Marine, Flare, Noel, and Pekora. Look at these girls hardwork and activities.
This seems like desperate cope ngl
@@Sheriff_Curtis maybe it is. But I said all this because I've seen comments and tweets here and there, wanting for Rushia to not be removed in the places she still is in hololive. Like, Pekora's twitter banner still had all 5 of them last I checked.
In the beginning, I was really wondering how they'll do as group of 4, if something's gonna change.
But really, they're all amazing and lovely girls (for me at least).
I was coping at some point, and seeng Rushia moments still make me feel bittersweet. But, that's my personal problem. And my personal feeling is, that Gen 3 is doing really good.
Gen 4 and Council are always 5, so 3 should be as well.
Well, it's true it's not the same if it's not all five. But it's not worse, just different. People are just showing respect by remembering 👍
If only the Aloe "fans" could understand this. Shes moved on.
Aloe has looked to the future while her "fans" are still dwelling in the past.
Based Noel 😎
I wouldn't want to be asociated with her either, TBH
I mean, yeah, it's been two years and all, but I still feel like she's part of the gen even if she's not in Holo anymore... Nostalgia really hits hard sometimes huh
Always will be
@@Astavyastataa hell yeah
Gen 3, always 5
While I do understand her reasoning, esp. as a corporate vtuber (that also has to keep brand unity / consistency in mind), I personally wish she'd keep an image of Rushia around. I guess it's a good thing she kept this room for so long. Maybe even on purpose (or at least not making any haste to get a new one). But let's also keep reality in check: 2 years is not that long. We keep photographs for lifetimes. The whole internet has drastically reduced the shelf life of any memory, meme, event etc etc. Which is not what we should be doing, I think. Memories made in the digital world are just as valuable. It's a benefit that indies have I guess, that they're more free to keep stuff around and just fill their backgrounds with stuff that's important to them and their friends, regardless.
Ideally I hope she might have a little easter egg around, like a butterfly on the window or something. It's good to keep old friends and keepsakes, I feel.
I agree that Plushie Rushia was removed, frankly I was quite relieved when I saw this clip. what Noel said is true but unfortunately, "they" are the ones who don't want to come forward to face reality.
Yes, I know what you mean by "They".
@@EverythingNoodles 👍
The commenters were right, Fantasy is not the same without Rushia, and it never will be the same without her, but what they need to understand is that it's ok to not be "the same."
Things change, people change, even if Rushia was still here, gen3 wouldn't have been the same as they were before. Gen3 has only gotten better over time, and fans need to focus on these improvements they worked so hard on and see that they are in fact not the same, but better.
It's been years after all. And yes the issues recently just feel kinda hurt.
ADA YANG HIJAU!!!
It's sad but for the good in long term considering Rushia is straight up a danger to herself and every one around her, hope she gets the help she needs and can move on as well. The Mori-kun example that was shared suits Kaichou instead of Rushia, she left to chase her dreams and is still loved by Hololive even now.
If people didnt cyberbullied her for 2 years and Mafumafu didnt ruined her chances moving forward with her life then she would have chased her dreams aswell.
Gen 3 with Rushia belongs in the past. That phase of Fantasy is done. Yes it should be remembered, but it shouldn't be treated as the present.
Plus the farther Hololive moves away from the time bomb that is Mikeneko, the better.
@@Karsh. I dont watch her content but did you ever see her acting dumb to think she has a screw loose?
@@Karsh.like you isnt it. seriously did you forgot that they have manager that actually manage talent.
@@wallyww6149 I know I've watched Noel for a while and I don't remember a single "dumb" incident from her. If anything she is extra cautious.
Antis like you are why she struggles with her mental health.
Welp as a first gen enjoyer, im big sad
Yeah, that happens when you are an employee, you have to bend the knee.
Integrity cannot take you really far away...
to think that rushia still have diehard fans eveb today baffles me
They only care about the Rushia, not the clown behind Rushia
Kinda understand because one of the purpose of v-tubers is for fans to be entertained to the personality/persona and not the real person behind. By this, the only wrong thing rushia did is that she was careless. Who knows, other v-tubers might be more vile than Rushia.
@@Andure22 Ofc there are more vile v-tubers but that's not relevant? It's such a non-statement.
And there are still people who are fans of Sana, Coco and Mel.
Sometimes it's hard to let go of memories that leave an impact on you. Good or bad.
@@janematthews9087 they left for different reasons. Sana and Coco just felt they didn't fit Hololive and left intentionally. Mel was a real tragedy
well i already move on a years ago after, i already see the fact.. so be it.
her fans truly deserve something better, not a betrayal like that.. not only to the fans, she betray her company and her genmate like that, But IDO really hope they can move on also.. sometimes for other's, an idol is not just an idol.. sometimes it's a place for them to run away from life even just for a sec, chilling, laugh, enjoy ourlive, even give us a spirit to live.. spirit to work hard and else, if people lose the path, or the place for them to recharge all of that? lose the way walk, it's the nightmare we can't think.. maybe relying too much it's not good, but search other's happiness it's not easy for us.
At first i don't even know or think i will like some "vtuber's" back then there's a streamer who really good at imitate some anime characters, and i found her when in middle school when the first time i got so adicted with K-on, and this girl? damn, she was really good imitate all of members so accurate! and i found she also doing some seiyuu stuff, and she work as an artist illustrator and sometimes bring "rurudo" in the topic, her close friend (until now).. i also heard she's one of vocaloid member's (she even have her own album), and once become a mangaka even not for long because she can't handle the deadline, i only notice this girl and not to care or hype to follow... she's fun to watch actually, times flies she's really rare to stream again and somehow i forgot about it.. but when in 2019, the first time i know how vtubers entertain.. i found a random clip in facebook a grup of vtubers playing "project winters", it makes me laugh and there's a person i see who always have moment to talk and make a jokes even conversation that i think this was a core of this stream.. but other's sometimes bullying her and make a fun of her.. it's like that's her part in the stream, i feel bad for it but yeah it's make the stream really fun.. i started to watch the other clip and other, and i got adicted by 1 person, and i decide to follow her journey.. and that's make me notice after i watch again and again, it's... the same person i watch backthen wtf her voice, how she laugh.. especially how hype she talk about her dad and her sister is, yeah it's her.. and i notice before this she was also a vtuber mangaka actually in 2017, their content was make an animation manga and the make the voice of that.. and that's lead me to the gen 3, all i know? almost all the holofans agree that Gen 3 was the best gen ever COVER corp made, and yeah it is... all of it have their own talent, their own skill to entertain people.. and they really lead the hololive get notice more by other's.. but it's sad when i watch the news 1 of them have a drama, i just want cover defend her after we lose 1 person too already, and yeah cover make a promise and tweet they will help the investigation and protect their talent.. while they helping, i found a guy who always talk about rushia condition, i was like "Who TF is this guy?" he said he just want to help her, he was her close friend too and rushia give him an info and she want him to give to that info to his viewers.. all i know she just want the fans didn't calm with that, after this guy said "actually rushia said to me to not tell about this..." and yeah he talk about it :') the day after? "TERMINATION" LOL if she remain silent i was sure 99% she will okey, how can? there's also other talent who get the same drama btw.. she take a hiatus and cover doin their job, and now? she still here until now, even this talent is more greeny or still new than rushia.. i feel bad for her AT FIRST, and i was like god damn u Mafu mafu.. but after i jump to deep to it, and finally the victim speakup and give us the proof and fact? and it confirm he was the ex husband of her? damn u Rushia, i know mafu mafu because of in my place there's a lot my girl friend was like him, he's a singer, composer and else who also make vocaloid song, he was famous.. but that famous has a dark past actually, he was a victim of bullying in his school backthen, have a toxic society and he can move on until he success.. but after he got a wife that he think she will make his life more better? but it's not, how she cheated him, even have a S*X with other guy!? and even this guy helping mafu mafu to give the Screenshot of her chat and else.. and this guy really saying sorry to mafu because he didn;t know this girl already married, while she's the one who want to make no one know her realtionship, and only her close friend who know.. but she do that for cheating even accuse mafu was the one who cheat she said? this girl already insane for me, a menhera Vtuber with also an IRL menhera.
Lmao you're deranged, I'm still her fan and she's never betrayed me
i think if we talking about gen that reduced by one the best example we got is gen 5, they never called themselves as gen 5 but nepolabo instead and the fans never bothered them with that kind of comment that noel didnt like.
maybe gen 3 need to find a new name for their gen? so the fans know they've move on and start their new chapter.
The difference is that the Aloe situation happened at the very start of her journey, the fans didn't have much time to know them as a 5 person generation so when it was reduced to 4 people there wasn't much to be nostalgic about, NePoLaBo wasn't adopted immediately and they did continue for a while to acknowledge they were a 5 person gen since it surprised many that they openly talked about Aloe without making being vague or beating around the bush like many others did when it came to talking about past members so the fans didnt pester them as much since they were open about it, when you lose a member like Rushia,Mel,or Coco who have been around a while in their respective group then the void they leave behind is alot harder to cover up than one left by Aloe
But Nenechi always says "we'll always be 5" (pun intended)
"they never called themselves as gen 5"
Lol. No.
They straight-up first announced themselves as "HoloFive"
Why would they call themselves "NePoLaBo" when Aloe was still there? To harass her?
What a dumb attempt at rewriting history... or just an insane case of self-confidence borne of ignorance.
@@Karsh. you know what I mean, they never called themselves gen5 when they get reduced to 4 no need to overly aggressive.
Look, regardless how you personally feel about Tushia after more recent info came to light can y'all bstop trying bto instigate beef and rile up anti behavior?
They did this in every clip that mentions her for over two years, the people cant stop making drama.
Gen 3 will always be 5!
I understand her sentiments, but it’ll never not feel like there’s someone missing for me. Third Gen was practically defined by how close they were and how well they’ll they synergized. I know Rushia eventually pulled away and got into toxic stuff and ultimately got terminated, but my memory of 3rd Gen - hell, my memory of Hololive, to a great extent - is partially defined by her presence.
Not to the extent of Coco, who was and is and will always be my oshi, but still a defining feature of Hololive as I’ll remember it.
Rushia was my second favourite along with Marine. I know it's her fault she got fired but it didn't make it less painful to see her leave. I totally understand Noel updating the room though. She's mourned long enough
Rushia was my fave after Korone and the reason I got into vtubers so I’ll always miss her.
We moving, pack your stuffs! 😎😝
Very reasonable Noel here.
If anyone knows anything about Rushia post-Hololive, then you know it's probably better for Gen 3 to leave her behind, but still appreciate the good times they had.
I watch her regularly, she's an incredible streamer and I hope her future is bright
I have no personal beef with Rushia because I wasn't a fan. I don't really like doing the parasocial thing and that was what she was all about. However, even I know she tarnished her reputation to degrees that would really make others not want to associate with her.
hololive is better off without a ticking bomb anyways
It really is a shame, Rushia was such a cool character. Had a color scheme unlike any other character in hololive and was the only necromancer in the cast. I like the aesthetic of the small girl with power to raise the dead and a bad temper/attachment issues. (Speaking about the character only and how she was portrayed of course, nothing more)
ruchan😢💚💙
Rushia did nothing wrong
she messed up, no reason to keep her plushie around
What they have is no obligation to keep her image around - if Noel felt removing it is for the best, she's in her full right. Some may see a reason to keep it - Matsuri for example, who said she wouldn't change her Twitter banner, and still hasn't.