RWS Toby with CGI Henrietta would be such a mood in the show. Like if Splatter and Dodge were under his teachings but they ignore him so he sits back and watches them wreck the yard. 😅
Absolutely positively _the best_ theme in the TV series 💯💯💯 And it's a lot of high praise bestowed upon the geniusness of Junior Campbell and Mike O'Donnell.
A modest senior citizen married couple chemistry combo the likes of which no one has ever prone to witness. Oh yeah, that would stretch astonishment far beyond wisdom itself in its stupendous condition 💯💯💯💯
I’m surprised Toby doesn’t have more of a dynamic with Edward in any of these series, the fact they’re both old engines with differing perspectives on life would’ve been interesting.
Now there's a splendid book story or TV episode I would be astounded as rich, shiny gems to see. I can sense that there will be a funny morality potential in it.
Toby has always been one of my favorites. He's definitely one of the most unique engines on Sodor, and I love how humble, hilarious, and brave he is. (At least in the early model seasons.) One of Sodor's finest, indeed. Also, that ending bit is amazing. Well, done.
Toby was rather pointless in both Hit and CGI as a character, but he's just something else on another level in the Railway Series, and that's very high praise indeed.
I agree most strongly. Super astonishing, well-established, and simply one of the Reverend Wilbert Awdry's genius, authentic characters he ever created, and that coming from a Black man like me is high praise indeed 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I never noticed the illustration of Toby refusing to help Mavis. It's so petty, but then again, i like to think that Toby is the Railway Series' "chaotic neutral" character
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I really wish they'd made the Mavis illustration canon. It would've been much funnier to see Toby refuse to help, while the camera shot establishes that Mavis is only a few hundred yards away
I still don't understand why people hate "Hasty Hannah". Toby is someone who likes it quiet and slow and Hannah likes it fast and loud. It's understandable for Toby.
I personally didn't enjoy it, not because of Toby, but because of Hannah. I mean how does a *single* coach push Toby down Gordon's hill faster than express speed? Of course Thomas isn't always the most realistic show, but there's usually a layer that I can suspend my disbelief with. Whether it's a boulder absolutely destroying everything, or a runaway caused by mechanical faults, I can usually accept it: Hannah's ludicrous strength however was just too much for me, personally
There's another moment in the CGI series that you forgot to mention where Toby isn't a coward: In Love Me Tender, he is in front of Donald and Douglas earlier in the episode and is absolutely pissed about their arguing, and even makes an annoyed grunt when he goes onto another track. Then, later on, when he finds Douglas stuck in the snow, he asks if he wants help, but Douglas refuses and rather than trying to help him regardless, Toby just smugly grins at him and rolls away.
Wasn’t there also a brief hidden moment in that episode during the arguing. As the Twins argued, you see Toby look ahead on the line and siding, and has a sneaky grin on his face as he goes into a siding, moving out of their way. Either this *BOY* was just being nice and was glad he got out of the way to not hear their arguing more, or he was playing 4D chess and predicted Donald and Douglas’ arguing would lead to disaster, and would gladly had been there to witness the whole thing and laughed at them XD
He's the kind of guy who'd switch your telly off at the wall and laugh as you try to switch it back on using buttons and the telly itself. He'll then say "I know what'll sort it" and switch it back on at the wall.
Always found it interesting that Toby almost always pulled Henrietta directly behind him even when pulling a train.... he never wanted anything to happen to her by being at the rear.... always felt that showed his deep care for her...
Such a cool history summary over my favorite character. As a child I got angry when Thomas&friends were on tv. I couldn't relate to it. Now as a Dad of a two year old I got into it. Its so cool to see a series lasting this long and making generations over generations happy. My son collects the wooden versions of his favorite pals. I am watching so much behind the scenes information and read them too. Thank you.
He’s kinda like a jolly old grandpa who will always laugh with you while telling how he messed around in his youth. I really like he had been included in the series. I never knew that steam tram existed until I saw him in model series (and later in the books). BTW I’m kinda interested in his class though. I mean, how would the arrangement be inside of him? The driver is in the front but what about the firebox, smoke box, coal bunker arrangement could be? I have been trying to look for the blueprint or interior photos but couldn’t find any.
Exactly especially In “Rosie is red” episode. Both of them acted like an older couple with Henrietta giving advice to Thomas on his behavior towards Rosie.
I love that he brought both Henrietta and the off-screen Elsie with him on that long journey, even though he didn't have to. I love the thought of Toby making his way across England with only his faithful coach Henrietta and luggage van Elsie behind him. And the Fat Controller gets free rolling stock! The same also applies to Oliver, Isabel, and Toad much later
Toby is my spirit engine! 😎 A laid-back, humble, comical yet wise old sage, who looks out for the wellbeing of others (unless they are ignorantly full of themselves, in which he delights in their humiliation). 😉
Aside from Thomas, Toby was always my favorite character in the franchise. This video gave me a whole new appreciation for Toby, and a pleasant reminder to always be humble, no matter what.
23:05 I don't really blame Brenner on that front. Maybe he got screwed over by Mattel who saw his timidness as a marketable character trait, and maybe Brenner defaulted to that to appease the company. I don't know, but its at least an explanation. My headcanon is that Toby and Henrietta ARE married, it's just that they haven't gotten it official because of this or that unfortunate circumstance.
Both Toby and Gordon's episodes are tied as being my favorite episodes of Sodor's Finest. The amount of lore and characterization in what makes them special characters and a deep depth into them is amazing! This episode makes me appreciate Toby more as a character and the J70 tram engines are really unique looking engines. Personality-wise, I prefer him also in the RWS and the first 5 seasons. For one person who worked on Thomas who's favorite character is Toby, Christopher Awdry really nailed him in his books. Also, the ending with Toby's journey to Sodor is astounding if there's ever a movie about him based on his self-titled book (no Half-Pariah does not count since it takes place in an alternate universe).
Fun Fact: Toby's old home, Ipswich, is only 12 miles from Suffolk, AKA: where Hell Hall, the place where Cruella De Vil kept the 99 Dalmatian puppies at, also the fact that both stories take place during the 1950s. Interesting to think about what if Toby helped save the famous 101 & Sodor was his eventual reward for it.
The thing that always pleasured me about Toby growing up was that he would not hesitate to go out of his way when someone or a situation that appreciated his efforts was in trouble or in distress. He objected to helping Mavis in her crossing predicament when she got under his boiler, but gave in when he realised that the people affected by her incident wouldn't be taking the matter lightly, showcasing his experience in the subject as a tram engine. That exactly aligns with 'Social Moral'. Another thing I'd like to mention is that I reside in East Anglia, where Toby worked before coming to Sodor. I have an appreciation for things Great Eastern, although the significance of this in relation to Toby's characterisation was never acutely mentioned in the books and inevitably played down in the TV series. However, in my proposal outline for a revamped Thomas & Friends series, the roots of Toby's character are very much a figure in the plot arc surrounding the introduction of one of the new characters I have drawn up for it. Regards, Samuel Farris.
22:28-22:40 In my defense to the tram engine, Knapford Junction wasn't a thing in the model or nitrogen era. It was only added in season 18, so it kinda makes sense for Toby to be worried about it because it's something he is not used to. For Hasty Hannah, Toby wasn't really scared or worried to use her, just skeptical. It was after he started using her that got to the point where Toby was like "alright this coach is dangerous and insecure about her life, I should be scared for myself and ditch her the first chance I get." And for the rickety bridge, Toby had every right to be worried about it, because if he had stayed on it any longer after he crossed it, that would've been it for him and his coach. And anybody would be worried about the bridge right?
And let's not forget he was definitely justified on being "hypochondriac-ed" of riding the "walking bridge" because it doesn't belong at all since it's"futuristic", or at least something Ruth would've spent weeks, months, and especially years to event.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967The Adventure Begins doesn’t count because those are just RECREATED stories of season 1 and the books. And plus that movie also adds things that we’re not presented in seasons 1-18 but later seasons after the movie.
Ah, yes. Toby. Always had a soft spot for Toby in the early model seasons. I genuinely wish they didn't mess with his character in the show, as his character just died off once they started doing completely original stories.. Would've LOVED to see the later Toby stories in CGI. I miss the old, not-giving-a-shit Toby. Tug's right, they just could never get his character completely right in CGI
Toby is a such an amazing character in the railway series and the tv series, he’s my favorite Thomas character of all time and I like the ending where Toby makes a journey to many places to Sodor
Ever since I heard the line, "Oldies but Goldies," there has been a part of my mind permanently occupied with Toby and Henrietta, Truly my favourite character and the J70 served as the 1st ever model engine I bought,
I remember as a kid, I always had to hide the fact that Toby was my favorite character because of how underused he was compared to Thomas & Percy. Now I don’t have to.
Yeah, the idea of Toby getting self conscious about someone saying he’s old fashioned and doesn’t look like an engine is horse 💩, just look at his reaction when Stephen Hatt says that he can’t be a tram because he wasn’t electric…Toby was piiiiiiissed…he he could gesture and jump off the rails like in AEG he’d have head butted the poor kid
I think Toby has such a connection to the humans exactly because he is a tram, unlike let's say a express train, who takes people on long trips on more special occasions, or a cargo train he took people from place to place every day, for something like work or a simple trip around town, he probably listened to everyone's stories, theirs struggles and everything, which made humans more relatable to him. But IDK.
Toby doesn’t just have the type of knowledge to where he can get free candy from the machine he can get free candy from anyone and anything plus Edward gives 2 fucks Toby however doesn’t give a fuck however he is still our favourite agent of chaos
30:58. I will never forget when I watched this moment the first time. If I’m ever down, I visit this video at this moment to cheer me up. The build up and music just makes you aspire to be someone of Toby’s character. Anyone else feel a tear well up?
This video definitely reminded me why Toby is my favourite. Definitely also reminded me a bit more of who I am, wise, old-fashioned and doesn't give a fuck. If only I was old. Oh, and had a Henrietta. But I'm fine the way I am.
A fun fact to those who don’t know, in Toby’s new whistle, Toby whistle which basis resembles a buckeye type and is also a real 3-chimed whistle is a sound taken from the real southern 4501 wheel arrangement 2-8-2 steam locomotive, which is now preserved in the Tennessee Valley railroad Museum in Chattanooga Tennessee
Seems like Davey Moore is the only writer to get Toby's character right in CGI Brenner era. Thomas, Percy and Toby's dynamic crept up again in CGI like Three Steam Engines Gruff, The Christmas Coffeepot and P.A. Problems. I suppose the writers should have tried harder to have Toby be in his true character of being wise, chaotic neutral, no care of what others think of him and about appearances with contentment, brave side which seeks adventure and witty sense of humour in the CGI series of the Brenner era and erase the self conscious worrisome trait once and for all, even Andrew Brenner despite doing well with Toby's New Friend in Season 20 as well as showing his friendship with Percy and be a mentor to him again. They should have gotten Christopher Awdry to be consultant so that he can watch over the Toby episodes to ensure he's written properly on account of being his favourite character.
Imagine if the Writer’s Bible for Thomas didn’t ruin the characters when HiT took over, we could’ve had that funny old grandpa version of Toby throughout the series
My headcanon on why toby became a worrier in the hit era and the cgi era:Toby had a accident with a train of stone trucks that almost left him damaged beyond repair and when he was repaired he was petrified after the accident and became worried about himself but with help from his friends his worries start to disapper and he starts revert back to his old wise self.
Edward and Toby were my favorites from the beginning. They are in many ways alike, wise, a little old, kindly, and of course, hard working. I took the story of Toby's line closing to heart, with people showing up for a last ride. It made me try harder to appreciate things in the world around me which I took for granted. My favorite Edward story is Old Iron. It too was quite formative for me. I have kids now, and I miss old Thomas the Tank Engine stories. They were so - moral.
What's so funny is while I grew up with Shining Time, as I was growing out of that I actually FORGOT Toby (someHOW!) and can't believe it now given that he has SUCH a unique shape to him that he's UNFORGETTABLE! And I do appriciate that both he and Edward were the original 'old guy' characters of the series but it's just sort of.....telling what they did to both during both HiT and Mattel eras and it's something that has always bugged me even as a kid concerning characters who are the designated adults of the group; they confuse being old with being useless. With Edward it was especially sad given it felt like HiT and Mattel treated him like crap once the BWBA shift happened but with Toby it was weird because they made him such a WORRY WART when he never came off like that, especially when you have HENRY filling in that roll with all his anxieties but Toby was sort of like the 'old man who is worried to try something new' so if I can answer your question as to WHY Toby was changed to this, it all boils down to the tone that HiT was doing with these characters; they were making them for preschoolers which meant they had to fill those really easy to assign roles regardless if the characters already had their personalities that were wide enough they didn't fit just one 'role' but in most kids' shows, especially for REAAAAALLY young kids, that's how they often write characters. Toby being self-conscious may have been placed on him because out of all the engines in the show, he really is the odd one out. Sure you have the diesels and other trains with more streamlined designs but Toby *IS* an oddity of them all. He's square, he has wooden sidings, he has a bell; he's DIFFERENT but rather than giving him a CONFIDENT, self-aware personality that actually isn't phased by being different, they gave him a scared personality to bounce off lessons to kids on how not to worry about being different but you can do ALL OF THAT and NOT have the character be 'scared' but like I said, this is what a lot of kids' shows do and I get it. They do it to make the character 'relatable' for a child who may feel nervous about 'being different' so they can rise from it but having a character who knows they're different but doesn't let that get them from that start is ALSO something that helps because it shows a kid someone who is already comfortable with themselves but HiT wanted to keep things 'simple'. It's why I oddly enjoyed one of the Timothy episodes where Bill and Ben bother him about being a hybrid of sorts surprisingly enough. Timothy doesn't LET them bother him as they bring up how he can take oil and steam and THEY'RE the ones who learn that nagging on him wasn't right because Timothy was comfortable with who is because he knows what he's capable of. Ontop of that, Harvey's issues were also a better example of what HiT got wrong with Toby considering Harvey was an original character they could build off from there rather than sacking Toby the way they did. All in all, this video really made me appreciate Toby. He reminds me of my grandfather on my dad's side with the whole trolling the younger kids to teach them a lesson.
But he was at least justified on being afraid of somethings like nearly dying after falling off the rickety bridge which collapsed and ESPECIALLY THE UNREALISTIC WALKING BRIDGE.
Edward and Toby are the purest engines on Sodor: they’re sweet, wise, smart, sensitive and positive. They also seldom get involved with accident and hardly ever get in trouble for any wrongdoings.
I think the 'worrier Toby' was a by product of flanderization and wanting to give Toby a defining foible. Mitton and Christopher Awdry did use a visibly more neurotic Toby at times compared to Wilbert's stories but the difference is nuance, like you said he's not just simplified to being super self conscious and scared of everything, he's just a bit less unflappable, the old smartass is having a few jokes at HIM every once in a while, which isn't a bad premise in itself with how they moderated it. Even Wilbert did VERY mildly hint to this sort of Toby in his very first appearance where he is very somber about his run seemingly ending ("No one wants me"). The times Toby worries about being left to rot or turned into a museum piece I admit kinda link well with this near miss, especially since in most of those his concern is more that he isn't getting fair chance rather than self deprecating. Heck role reversals with the wise engines like Edward, Skarloey and even the Fat Controller make a mistake and need the younger engines' help for change is an intriguing premise and I always kinda liked the concept, it's just the EXECUTION so very often kinda fell flat because they didn't plausibly make the wise characters flawed in a way that fit their default character. Not to mention they did it in excess too often, especially with poor Toby, who after a while seldom went back to his normal wise persona much anymore. I do feel like the Brenner era was trying to get things back to the Mitton-era transitional characterisation at least, just again there was fight to maintain nuance with many writers, especially since the HIT era likely left a lot of the audience used to that version of Toby.
Rewatching this episode after The Scottish Twins episode is fascinating in context. Edward saved Trevor from scrap. Donald saved his brother, Douglas, from scrap. Douglas, inspired by his brother and Trevor’s story, goes on to save Oliver. (I headcanon that both reasons, since the books use one and the show uses the other, and both are perfectly valid.) Douglas tells that story to Rusty, and Rusty is inspired to save Stepney. Meanwhile, Oliver rediscovers Toby and passes along the word, saving Toby from being forgotten. A neat little arc, if you think about it. Just some useful little engines, paying it forward again and again
I will admit Toby is a unique engine. Toby is another character I like as a kid, and I thought he looked cool. I will say I would love to see a story with Edward and Toby together and see how different they are. What you said like Edward would be the engine who would mentor a young engine before they make their mistake and Toby is the engine who does not give a care, he would be the engine to have young engine make their mistake and laugh about it. I would love to see Edward and Toby going at each other about it.
I do like toby and think he's a pretty good character but i did not like him in cgi and the hit era The classic era and the RWS are better version of toby's character Tho if there's one think i do like about toby in cgi it's Henrietta and how they made her a actual character
The thing he did to the constable was hilarious. He made the constable think it was gonna be Thomas, but the constable got the shock of his life when he first saw Toby.
This is one of my favourte videos you have ever made! When this video came out it made me relize how much I adore Toby and he slowly became my favourte charictor. Your friend's dicripshun of Toby's chrarictor is hillareus and very true! I liked the ending sean the voice over and music are amazing. I hope the people who make AEG saw this video and have Toby be in chrarictor in the reboot. Amazing video! Hope you have a great day!
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I remember someone saying “Toby didn’t start the fire, but he’s gonna watch it burn” in the old comments.
That right there was a clever formidable proverb of some sort.
That's why I love toby so much! That's why he's my favorite character!
Reminds me of that girl watching the fire burn
Nah. Toby's the guy to watch someone light the fire, and then watch it burn while he busts out the marshmallows and graham crackers
Heheh that analogy between Toby and Edward is SO perfectly said.
RWS Toby with CGI Henrietta would be such a mood in the show. Like if Splatter and Dodge were under his teachings but they ignore him so he sits back and watches them wreck the yard. 😅
Toby’s voice in Magic Railroad suits him perfectly.
You know it.
Man... that ending showing Toby's full journey to Sodor just hits different :')
The end theme was great
Man I'm so obsessed with it. Someone pls send help
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We can all agree that Toby's theme is one of the best in the show. Every time i hear it I break into dance.
That’s because his theme was supposed to originally be the shows theme but eventually got shifted to the one we all know
Absolutely positively _the best_ theme in the TV series 💯💯💯 And it's a lot of high praise bestowed upon the geniusness of Junior Campbell and Mike O'Donnell.
Agreed
Always loved that ending showing the map when Toby is travelling to Sodor.
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Same
I nearly cry every time
Railway Series Toby and CGI Henrietta would be the absolute best. Absolute perfection that would be.
And Model Series Toby from Season 1-5 too.
A modest senior citizen married couple chemistry combo the likes of which no one has ever prone to witness. Oh yeah, that would stretch astonishment far beyond wisdom itself in its stupendous condition 💯💯💯💯
I’m surprised Toby doesn’t have more of a dynamic with Edward in any of these series, the fact they’re both old engines with differing perspectives on life would’ve been interesting.
Now there's a splendid book story or TV episode I would be astounded as rich, shiny gems to see. I can sense that there will be a funny morality potential in it.
@@TheAutisticCapricorn811 Especially involving Samson.
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Toby has always been one of my favorites. He's definitely one of the most unique engines on Sodor, and I love how humble, hilarious, and brave he is. (At least in the early model seasons.) One of Sodor's finest, indeed. Also, that ending bit is amazing. Well, done.
I honestly like Toby when he is a tram
Toby was rather pointless in both Hit and CGI as a character, but he's just something else on another level in the Railway Series, and that's very high praise indeed.
I agree most strongly. Super astonishing, well-established, and simply one of the Reverend Wilbert Awdry's genius, authentic characters he ever created, and that coming from a Black man like me is high praise indeed 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I have reasons why my favorite engines is Toby:
1. He old
2. He is a tram
3. Good personality
Toby is a much more interesting character in the entire series and The Railway Series did Toby so perfectly for this
I never noticed the illustration of Toby refusing to help Mavis. It's so petty, but then again, i like to think that Toby is the Railway Series' "chaotic neutral" character
And briefly the TV series.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I really wish they'd made the Mavis illustration canon. It would've been much funnier to see Toby refuse to help, while the camera shot establishes that Mavis is only a few hundred yards away
@@patwatts2426 Pity that Ffarquhar Sheds didn't appear nearby though.
I still don't understand why people hate "Hasty Hannah". Toby is someone who likes it quiet and slow and Hannah likes it fast and loud. It's understandable for Toby.
I agree. I personally find "Hasty Hannah" an rather funny episode tbh.
@@ItsCarlos563 Thanks you
It’s probably the only time Toby being worried about something worked out fine.
@@SrMechaGojira93 True.
I personally didn't enjoy it, not because of Toby, but because of Hannah. I mean how does a *single* coach push Toby down Gordon's hill faster than express speed? Of course Thomas isn't always the most realistic show, but there's usually a layer that I can suspend my disbelief with. Whether it's a boulder absolutely destroying everything, or a runaway caused by mechanical faults, I can usually accept it: Hannah's ludicrous strength however was just too much for me, personally
There's another moment in the CGI series that you forgot to mention where Toby isn't a coward: In Love Me Tender, he is in front of Donald and Douglas earlier in the episode and is absolutely pissed about their arguing, and even makes an annoyed grunt when he goes onto another track. Then, later on, when he finds Douglas stuck in the snow, he asks if he wants help, but Douglas refuses and rather than trying to help him regardless, Toby just smugly grins at him and rolls away.
Davey Moore captures Toby's true character well in his episodes and appearances.
Wasn’t there also a brief hidden moment in that episode during the arguing. As the Twins argued, you see Toby look ahead on the line and siding, and has a sneaky grin on his face as he goes into a siding, moving out of their way.
Either this *BOY* was just being nice and was glad he got out of the way to not hear their arguing more, or he was playing 4D chess and predicted Donald and Douglas’ arguing would lead to disaster, and would gladly had been there to witness the whole thing and laughed at them XD
I always loved Toby, but this video made me appreciate him even more. If he'd remained consistent, he probably would've been my favourite character
Mine too, on-point 💯💯
Likewise
I absolutely appreciated Toby in the TV Series.
Whenever I take the Metro as a young, I would always bring Toby along to be reminded of him.
Toby is the kind of guy that teaches kids how to get free candy from the vending machine by hitting it a certain way.
Yeah, and now Toby would be too worried about hitting the machine. I miss classic Peepaw Toby
He's the kind of guy who'd switch your telly off at the wall and laugh as you try to switch it back on using buttons and the telly itself. He'll then say "I know what'll sort it" and switch it back on at the wall.
He’s the kind of grandpa to Chuck the elder grandson (Thomas) at a wall
Toby is a street-wise type of character. And I think his moralities are as wholesome as livin' the life of a true content 1%er.
Toby is Dad’s dad, not Mom’s dad
I spent the entire model season part bopping out to "hip to be square"
Always found it interesting that Toby almost always pulled Henrietta directly behind him even when pulling a train.... he never wanted anything to happen to her by being at the rear.... always felt that showed his deep care for her...
Toby is to Henrietta like Linus is to his blanket.
Such a cool history summary over my favorite character. As a child I got angry when Thomas&friends were on tv. I couldn't relate to it. Now as a Dad of a two year old I got into it. Its so cool to see a series lasting this long and making generations over generations happy. My son collects the wooden versions of his favorite pals. I am watching so much behind the scenes information and read them too.
Thank you.
Toby is definitely the most underrated character in Thomas and I wished they used him more in the CGI seasons
Yeah. Why does Mattel hate him?
@@Jess19980 Not sure.
@@Jess19980 most likely it's plain old *tramsphobia.*
@@Scrinwaipwr Tramsphobia? What's that?
@@Jess19980 a pun.
Toby is the wisest old grandpa
...That doesn't give a sh!t.
He’s kinda like a jolly old grandpa who will always laugh with you while telling how he messed around in his youth.
I really like he had been included in the series. I never knew that steam tram existed until I saw him in model series (and later in the books).
BTW I’m kinda interested in his class though. I mean, how would the arrangement be inside of him? The driver is in the front but what about the firebox, smoke box, coal bunker arrangement could be? I have been trying to look for the blueprint or interior photos but couldn’t find any.
His boiler is located in the middle, with the opposite ends having a space for the driver to switch on roundabout trips.
I just LOVE Toby 7:50 7:11 10:42 13:06 11:32 13:12
Toby and Henrietta are the closest thing Thomas has to an old married couple.
Exactly especially In “Rosie is red” episode. Both of them acted like an older couple with Henrietta giving advice to Thomas on his behavior towards Rosie.
I love that he brought both Henrietta and the off-screen Elsie with him on that long journey, even though he didn't have to. I love the thought of Toby making his way across England with only his faithful coach Henrietta and luggage van Elsie behind him. And the Fat Controller gets free rolling stock! The same also applies to Oliver, Isabel, and Toad much later
A lot of people don't know this, but the song hip to be square by Huey Lewis and the News is actually a song about Toby. So it's fitting tug used it
Never really thought how many crazy things have happened to Toby, examples: Toby’s tightrope, Toby and the flood, etc.
Toby is my spirit engine!
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A laid-back, humble, comical yet wise old sage, who looks out for the wellbeing of others (unless they are ignorantly full of themselves, in which he delights in their humiliation).
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Aside from Thomas, Toby was always my favorite character in the franchise. This video gave me a whole new appreciation for Toby, and a pleasant reminder to always be humble, no matter what.
Toby is the best grandpa ever along with Iroh
Sodor's Finest back at it again! This time with the old garden shed, Toby.
23:05 I don't really blame Brenner on that front. Maybe he got screwed over by Mattel who saw his timidness as a marketable character trait, and maybe Brenner defaulted to that to appease the company. I don't know, but its at least an explanation.
My headcanon is that Toby and Henrietta ARE married, it's just that they haven't gotten it official because of this or that unfortunate circumstance.
Toby has always been one of my favourite characters. No wonder he is Chris Awdry’s favourite.
Both Toby and Gordon's episodes are tied as being my favorite episodes of Sodor's Finest. The amount of lore and characterization in what makes them special characters and a deep depth into them is amazing!
This episode makes me appreciate Toby more as a character and the J70 tram engines are really unique looking engines. Personality-wise, I prefer him also in the RWS and the first 5 seasons. For one person who worked on Thomas who's favorite character is Toby, Christopher Awdry really nailed him in his books.
Also, the ending with Toby's journey to Sodor is astounding if there's ever a movie about him based on his self-titled book (no Half-Pariah does not count since it takes place in an alternate universe).
Fun Fact: Toby's old home, Ipswich, is only 12 miles from Suffolk, AKA: where Hell Hall, the place where Cruella De Vil kept the 99 Dalmatian puppies at, also the fact that both stories take place during the 1950s. Interesting to think about what if Toby helped save the famous 101 & Sodor was his eventual reward for it.
Woah
The thing that always pleasured me about Toby growing up was that he would not hesitate to go out of his way when someone or a situation that appreciated his efforts was in trouble or in distress. He objected to helping Mavis in her crossing predicament when she got under his boiler, but gave in when he realised that the people affected by her incident wouldn't be taking the matter lightly, showcasing his experience in the subject as a tram engine. That exactly aligns with 'Social Moral'.
Another thing I'd like to mention is that I reside in East Anglia, where Toby worked before coming to Sodor. I have an appreciation for things Great Eastern, although the significance of this in relation to Toby's characterisation was never acutely mentioned in the books and inevitably played down in the TV series. However, in my proposal outline for a revamped Thomas & Friends series, the roots of Toby's character are very much a figure in the plot arc surrounding the introduction of one of the new characters I have drawn up for it. Regards, Samuel Farris.
Annie, Clarabel, and Henrietta got it pretty good in the Cgi series
22:28-22:40 In my defense to the tram engine, Knapford Junction wasn't a thing in the model or nitrogen era. It was only added in season 18, so it kinda makes sense for Toby to be worried about it because it's something he is not used to. For Hasty Hannah, Toby wasn't really scared or worried to use her, just skeptical. It was after he started using her that got to the point where Toby was like "alright this coach is dangerous and insecure about her life, I should be scared for myself and ditch her the first chance I get." And for the rickety bridge, Toby had every right to be worried about it, because if he had stayed on it any longer after he crossed it, that would've been it for him and his coach. And anybody would be worried about the bridge right?
And let's not forget he was definitely justified on being "hypochondriac-ed" of riding the "walking bridge" because it doesn't belong at all since it's"futuristic", or at least something Ruth would've spent weeks, months, and especially years to event.
The Adventure Begins has Knapford Junction appear in it and it's a retelling of the first season's first events.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967The Adventure Begins doesn’t count because those are just RECREATED stories of season 1 and the books. And plus that movie also adds things that we’re not presented in seasons 1-18 but later seasons after the movie.
@@kevinhoungueh4679 It does count to me so it doesn't matter. Best to just go with it.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 Well it doesn’t to me so that’s why I’m not including it.
Ah, yes. Toby. Always had a soft spot for Toby in the early model seasons. I genuinely wish they didn't mess with his character in the show, as his character just died off once they started doing completely original stories..
Would've LOVED to see the later Toby stories in CGI. I miss the old, not-giving-a-shit Toby. Tug's right, they just could never get his character completely right in CGI
Apart from a few episodes by Davey Moore who got his character right.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 true. Love those episodes
@@furrymczplayer18 Glad you look on that bright side.
Toby is a such an amazing character in the railway series and the tv series, he’s my favorite Thomas character of all time and I like the ending where Toby makes a journey to many places to Sodor
Ever since I heard the line, "Oldies but Goldies," there has been a part of my mind permanently occupied with Toby and Henrietta,
Truly my favourite character and the J70 served as the 1st ever model engine I bought,
I remember as a kid, I always had to hide the fact that Toby was my favorite character because of how underused he was compared to Thomas & Percy. Now I don’t have to.
ALWAYS.ALWAYS the end of this makes me CRY both in sadness and in Joy.
Yeah, the idea of Toby getting self conscious about someone saying he’s old fashioned and doesn’t look like an engine is horse 💩, just look at his reaction when Stephen Hatt says that he can’t be a tram because he wasn’t electric…Toby was piiiiiiissed…he he could gesture and jump off the rails like in AEG he’d have head butted the poor kid
It is now in my head. Toby hearing that, jumping onto the platform, and saying “ Call me electric ONE. MORE. TIME.”.
I think Toby has such a connection to the humans exactly because he is a tram, unlike let's say a express train, who takes people on long trips on more special occasions, or a cargo train he took people from place to place every day, for something like work or a simple trip around town, he probably listened to everyone's stories, theirs struggles and everything, which made humans more relatable to him. But IDK.
Toby is just such a fun guy in the early years of the show... espesially season 3 and 5
Why is Toby scared of crossing bridges in Toby tightrope Toby and the flood Toby had a little lamb and Christmas tree express
Probably because he " could " have oofed
I wish that they'd given Toby an episode with Hiro. They would have gotten in like a house on fire
Toby’s theme goes hard bro ngl. It is just one of the great creations of Mike O’Donnel and Jr Campbell. Sorry if I misspelled names.
Toby doesn’t just have the type of
knowledge to where he can get free candy from the machine he can get free candy from anyone and anything plus Edward gives 2 fucks Toby however doesn’t give a fuck however he is still our favourite agent of chaos
30:58. I will never forget when I watched this moment the first time. If I’m ever down, I visit this video at this moment to cheer me up. The build up and music just makes you aspire to be someone of Toby’s character.
Anyone else feel a tear well up?
Toby and Edward are favorites engines, awesome characters and fillies with advice and are sensible
Toby fans are rare to come across because they’re totally chill about it
I'm so glad you reuploaded this. Toby's my favorite.
This video definitely reminded me why Toby is my favourite. Definitely also reminded me a bit more of who I am, wise, old-fashioned and doesn't give a fuck.
If only I was old. Oh, and had a Henrietta. But I'm fine the way I am.
A fun fact to those who don’t know, in Toby’s new whistle, Toby whistle which basis resembles a buckeye type and is also a real 3-chimed whistle is a sound taken from the real southern 4501 wheel arrangement 2-8-2 steam locomotive, which is now preserved in the Tennessee Valley railroad Museum in Chattanooga Tennessee
Toby is a brown tram engine who works on Thomas' branch line, along with Thomas, Percy, Mavis, Rosie, Lady and Bertram.
Seems like Davey Moore is the only writer to get Toby's character right in CGI Brenner era. Thomas, Percy and Toby's dynamic crept up again in CGI like Three Steam Engines Gruff, The Christmas Coffeepot and P.A. Problems. I suppose the writers should have tried harder to have Toby be in his true character of being wise, chaotic neutral, no care of what others think of him and about appearances with contentment, brave side which seeks adventure and witty sense of humour in the CGI series of the Brenner era and erase the self conscious worrisome trait once and for all, even Andrew Brenner despite doing well with Toby's New Friend in Season 20 as well as showing his friendship with Percy and be a mentor to him again. They should have gotten Christopher Awdry to be consultant so that he can watch over the Toby episodes to ensure he's written properly on account of being his favourite character.
29:57 wow… this is so amazing.
Imagine if the Writer’s Bible for Thomas didn’t ruin the characters when HiT took over, we could’ve had that funny old grandpa version of Toby throughout the series
I wonder why HiT thought old guys are wimps
My headcanon on why toby became a worrier in the hit era and the cgi era:Toby had a accident with a train of stone trucks that almost left him damaged beyond repair and when he was repaired he was petrified after the accident and became worried about himself but with help from his friends his worries start to disapper and he starts revert back to his old wise self.
I don’t know how many times I live watched the ending montage, but I love it every time.
The music montages is always the best part of these Sodors’s Finest, this is the best one
I said it before on the previopus upload of this video and it still rings true. That ending piece still gives me chills when I watch it!
Love how you used the National Park Theme during the CGi segment 😌 It just fits perfectly there.
30:01 the epic grand journey begins!!!!
30:47 Toby’s story on sodor begins!!
Toby was a total G! One of my favourite characters, as a child. The ending was so wonderful. Total inspiration on how to live your best life ❤
The ending is just so beautiful
I only just noticed that you avoided showing Henrietta's face until you mentioned her by name.
I never noticed how close Toby was to Mavis when she stalled at the crossing. That’s awesome. 😂
30:50 TRAMPY MOVIE LINE?!
Wow, that ending part is amazing😮
It's back! This is one of my absolute favorites in the Sodor's Finest series. Thanks Tug!
7:12 i like this train already!
Edward and Toby were my favorites from the beginning.
They are in many ways alike, wise, a little old, kindly, and of course, hard working.
I took the story of Toby's line closing to heart, with people showing up for a last ride.
It made me try harder to appreciate things in the world around me which I took for granted.
My favorite Edward story is Old Iron. It too was quite formative for me.
I have kids now, and I miss old Thomas the Tank Engine stories. They were so - moral.
I really want to thank for making this amazing video about Toby
Toby deserves larger roles
It still surprise me how much I teared up whenever I watch the end part where the Driver told Toby that he has been saved by the North Western Railway
I absolutely love the "Hip to Be Square" instrumental midway through the video 😂 Such a clever little joke!
Time stamp?
Toby really said f**k the police!😂😊
He bears witness to an accidental suicide. You know, typical season 5 things.
Jesus Christ, Nic.
Was waiting for this one to come back, glad it's here!
What's so funny is while I grew up with Shining Time, as I was growing out of that I actually FORGOT Toby (someHOW!) and can't believe it now given that he has SUCH a unique shape to him that he's UNFORGETTABLE! And I do appriciate that both he and Edward were the original 'old guy' characters of the series but it's just sort of.....telling what they did to both during both HiT and Mattel eras and it's something that has always bugged me even as a kid concerning characters who are the designated adults of the group; they confuse being old with being useless.
With Edward it was especially sad given it felt like HiT and Mattel treated him like crap once the BWBA shift happened but with Toby it was weird because they made him such a WORRY WART when he never came off like that, especially when you have HENRY filling in that roll with all his anxieties but Toby was sort of like the 'old man who is worried to try something new' so if I can answer your question as to WHY Toby was changed to this, it all boils down to the tone that HiT was doing with these characters; they were making them for preschoolers which meant they had to fill those really easy to assign roles regardless if the characters already had their personalities that were wide enough they didn't fit just one 'role' but in most kids' shows, especially for REAAAAALLY young kids, that's how they often write characters. Toby being self-conscious may have been placed on him because out of all the engines in the show, he really is the odd one out. Sure you have the diesels and other trains with more streamlined designs but Toby *IS* an oddity of them all.
He's square, he has wooden sidings, he has a bell; he's DIFFERENT but rather than giving him a CONFIDENT, self-aware personality that actually isn't phased by being different, they gave him a scared personality to bounce off lessons to kids on how not to worry about being different but you can do ALL OF THAT and NOT have the character be 'scared' but like I said, this is what a lot of kids' shows do and I get it. They do it to make the character 'relatable' for a child who may feel nervous about 'being different' so they can rise from it but having a character who knows they're different but doesn't let that get them from that start is ALSO something that helps because it shows a kid someone who is already comfortable with themselves but HiT wanted to keep things 'simple'.
It's why I oddly enjoyed one of the Timothy episodes where Bill and Ben bother him about being a hybrid of sorts surprisingly enough. Timothy doesn't LET them bother him as they bring up how he can take oil and steam and THEY'RE the ones who learn that nagging on him wasn't right because Timothy was comfortable with who is because he knows what he's capable of. Ontop of that, Harvey's issues were also a better example of what HiT got wrong with Toby considering Harvey was an original character they could build off from there rather than sacking Toby the way they did.
All in all, this video really made me appreciate Toby. He reminds me of my grandfather on my dad's side with the whole trolling the younger kids to teach them a lesson.
But he was at least justified on being afraid of somethings like nearly dying after falling off the rickety bridge which collapsed and ESPECIALLY THE UNREALISTIC WALKING BRIDGE.
I’ve been waiting for this re-upload 😤
Me too.
Edward and Toby are the purest engines on Sodor: they’re sweet, wise, smart, sensitive and positive. They also seldom get involved with accident and hardly ever get in trouble for any wrongdoings.
I think the 'worrier Toby' was a by product of flanderization and wanting to give Toby a defining foible. Mitton and Christopher Awdry did use a visibly more neurotic Toby at times compared to Wilbert's stories but the difference is nuance, like you said he's not just simplified to being super self conscious and scared of everything, he's just a bit less unflappable, the old smartass is having a few jokes at HIM every once in a while, which isn't a bad premise in itself with how they moderated it. Even Wilbert did VERY mildly hint to this sort of Toby in his very first appearance where he is very somber about his run seemingly ending ("No one wants me"). The times Toby worries about being left to rot or turned into a museum piece I admit kinda link well with this near miss, especially since in most of those his concern is more that he isn't getting fair chance rather than self deprecating.
Heck role reversals with the wise engines like Edward, Skarloey and even the Fat Controller make a mistake and need the younger engines' help for change is an intriguing premise and I always kinda liked the concept, it's just the EXECUTION so very often kinda fell flat because they didn't plausibly make the wise characters flawed in a way that fit their default character. Not to mention they did it in excess too often, especially with poor Toby, who after a while seldom went back to his normal wise persona much anymore. I do feel like the Brenner era was trying to get things back to the Mitton-era transitional characterisation at least, just again there was fight to maintain nuance with many writers, especially since the HIT era likely left a lot of the audience used to that version of Toby.
TL;DR
Rewatching this episode after The Scottish Twins episode is fascinating in context.
Edward saved Trevor from scrap. Donald saved his brother, Douglas, from scrap. Douglas, inspired by his brother and Trevor’s story, goes on to save Oliver. (I headcanon that both reasons, since the books use one and the show uses the other, and both are perfectly valid.) Douglas tells that story to Rusty, and Rusty is inspired to save Stepney. Meanwhile, Oliver rediscovers Toby and passes along the word, saving Toby from being forgotten.
A neat little arc, if you think about it. Just some useful little engines, paying it forward again and again
Unlucky Tug: he's a steam engine
Me: no.... Really?!? I thought he was an electric engine!
Toby: *triggered*
0:03 I prefer Toby’s original bell sound
Are we not going to talk about how CGI Tobies nostrils stop immediately after his nose
I will admit Toby is a unique engine. Toby is another character I like as a kid, and I thought he looked cool. I will say I would love to see a story with Edward and Toby together and see how different they are. What you said like Edward would be the engine who would mentor a young engine before they make their mistake and Toby is the engine who does not give a care, he would be the engine to have young engine make their mistake and laugh about it. I would love to see Edward and Toby going at each other about it.
That ending piece was beautiful, it belongs in a movie somewhere.
I do like toby and think he's a pretty good character but i did not like him in cgi and the hit era
The classic era and the RWS are better version of toby's character
Tho if there's one think i do like about toby in cgi it's Henrietta and how they made her a actual character
Davey Moore's Toby episodes doesn't feature him worried or self conscious.
Toby is the definition of Chaotic Neutral.
The thing he did to the constable was hilarious. He made the constable think it was gonna be Thomas, but the constable got the shock of his life when he first saw Toby.
29:46 the feeeels
❤ toby the tram engine is best character in my opinion
This is one of my favourte videos you have ever made! When this video came out it made me relize how much I adore Toby and he slowly became my favourte charictor. Your friend's dicripshun of Toby's chrarictor is hillareus and very true! I liked the ending sean the voice over and music are amazing. I hope the people who make AEG saw this video and have Toby be in chrarictor in the reboot. Amazing video! Hope you have a great day!
Still one of my favorite of your videos. I'm glad to be able to watch it again.
toby is back
20:43: Hey, Unlucky Tug, it just reminded me of Skarloey. He pretty much seems to ALMOST age backwards. Not by being childish, but in his bravery.