Such a nice car! I'd love a podcast on these cars! That was actually a really cool idea when you mentioned it! You are always so informative and enthusiastic when it comes to talking about cars you love. As a huge car guy myself I definitely understand the passion! Great work! 😊👍
Love Maserati M139 , it’s one of the best Maserati ever built as you get 4 door Ferrari engine car for pennies compared even cheapest Ferrari California. It’s so enjoyable drive for every day or sport driving.
Very Well done and informative. If you've seen the bulk of the videos on the Quattroporte, you get the impression, the owners work at Burger King and get mad when they have to pay for an oil change. Thanks for no midroll ads, that's class, I let all other ads run, no one lets midrolls run. And thanks for including us in the US with mpg not just liters. I 'get' what you mean about trying out other vehicles, for myself and I think many out there, it could be a Rolls, Porsche, Ferrari, etc, after a year or so , for me, its like la ti da.... what else is out there..
This is probably the first, 100% accurate review of this era of Maseratis, that I've seen. I'd include the Granturismo, because they are similar cars. With the exception of the number of doors.
I still own and drive my 2012 Quattroporte Sport GTS it has clocked over 40k kms. Other than the sticky buttons (which I just rubbed off) and some leather upholstery of the glove box panel bubbling off, and blue pseudo leather upholstery of the side of the seats almost melted with the seatbelt buckles sticking to them, after the car sat for some months during the pandemic, I have had no major issues with it. Replaced the lower radiator hose though, a few years back and the coolant reservoir tank twice, oh and the power window mechanisms. It still is a lovely car to drive around with the fam.
Very useful. Thanks for the review, I now feel educated on these. Have always fancied one. For the moment I'll stick with my Continental GT. But the time will come I'm sure!
Love the brand glad we have an honest review for once..I enjoy mine.most people bash the brand.i feel owning them is a passion..I like to sit in the ferrari maserati dealer while my car is in there..and they look after me because it's in my blood!
I owned a 08 GT and didn't have any issues with it except worrying about the camshaft variators needing replaced. At 28k I started it cold and heard that dreadful clicking noise for a second and said, that's it. I;m selling it. Why, inquired to several shops the cost of replacement and I was quoted, between 8 and 12 thousand dollars. I only paid 30k for the car with 14k miles on it. I'm currently looking for another GT with the year > 2010 where the variator issue was fixed.
if maserati didnt start their production with the quattroporte and the duo select transmission in the beginning rather than the ZF, then their value wouldnt certainly not decrease so much
I loved my Duoselect, the Automática is just a nice Limusine (I owned both). The Duoselect was much sportier and aggressive. I loved to take it to the mountains to really drive it hard and feel all that power. I was lucky, I never had problems.
Yes, my DuoSelect QP even feels sportier than my ZF GranTurismo S, despite the latter being a coupe and having a larger engine. Besides the slushbox, the ZF gear ratios are much lower, with 5th and 6th both being overdrive. The DuoSelect QP runs 3300 RPM at 80MPH in 6th gear, it's kinda insane (and inefficient). Coupled with the QP having a much nicer interior build quality, it's clearly the more Italian car.
I also own both 2005 Quattroporte and 2012 Granturismo s. The Quattroporte duo select is the true drivers or petrol head car. It is an involving and brilliant driving experience. The problem is most people have opinions without owning one. The Quattroporte is sports sedan . This is not designed as a limo. I also had no issues with the transmission still on original clutch 62,000 miles, driven on manual sport mode only
one of the best reviews I have seen on utube! Good job! I would have bought such an unpredictable car if it was not for the 2 tons.... My Alfa 166 3.0 from 99 is close to my dream car but I am missing the rear drive.... Help me find my dream car: 4-doors, not too young, not too long, not too heavy, more torque/ccm than horse power, rear drive and a history/"name".. thanks
Simplest answer would be a C63 AMG, which I've also talked about on the channel, or perhaps one which I may buy at some point but haven't driven yet, the excellent Lexus ISF
QUESTION!???……I am literally one day from grabbing a 2014 Q4 w/55k miles. I house all cars in the winter, and switch out every 10 days (I am down to 3 cars, this can be my fourth)….I put abt 3k miles per year, 4K tops on them, this would be the same. Should I still opt for a warranty?….send your thoughts. It’s my first one…RESPONSE WOULD BE CRAZY! Thanks in advance!
Each to their own but I never bother with extended warranties, most dealers etc only seem to try and find excuses to get out of them. As far as use, the more often the better when it comes to batteries etc.
@@HSGAutomotive so would u say, looking into buying it given the amount of mile I put on my cars should be fine w/no warranty?…OFCOURSE I will make my own decision, but asking. U def have the experience-I have the most reliable cars clogging up my garage-GX460, GSFSPORT, IS250, this one is the bastard!…doing my research b4 I adopt. Just got out of 3 cars-A7, A8,S4…..
I like the video and appreciate the content, but I'm not sure 5 months counts as "long term ownership". Even times 3. I mean, did you ever even take one of these things for a big 4th year service...? All cars like this have bad mpg and high tax, but a major service every 2 years (as opposed to 4 in a Porsche say) is a BIG difference in running costs. I'm more interested to hear about that
maserati granturismo/quattro are real maseratis, such beautiful and exciting cars that you always look forward to driving unlike the later gen quattro and ghibli and suv hellscape- dont even care that some bmw is faster, they can do what they want but the maserati is far more exciting in all ways
I love driving my '06 DuoSelect model and personally wouldn't want the ZF version, but I get what you mean, it's odd for such a heavy car. Most people would probably not want it. Also, I felt the need to spend $1200 and one afternoon dropping in a Formula Dynamics DBW mod to improve the shift speeds. The stock computer burns too much clutch smoothing out the shifts.
I have the fd unit in a gransport and it’s great. These cars are not terribly unreliable. I look at german cars and dont want to go near those issues. These cars are pretty basic.
@@2500BC Yeah I almost bought an M3 instead, but I thought it'd have just as many issues if not more, with less nice of an interior and just an ok exterior. Would've just been nice having a stick but oh well.
Love the car on a 18 yr run with a 2006. Not one electrical problem. Has never not started get a agm battery. Yearly maintenance everything fine. The things you hear are bs.
Fantastic video mate. I’m looking at quattroportes at the moment. With a budget of £15K max, I’m surprised to find a few low miles 08-09 examples that seem to tick all the boxes. And thanks for confirming my aversion to the Duo-Shift. I’ve given up listening to everyone who says they’re all terrible money-pits. That might be the case for my other choice, a Bentley continental W12 GT. The gremlins seem to come as standard on those. I just love the way the QP looks. And where I live at any rate, Bentley GTs are ten a penny. I’m just a working bloke. So obviously I’m worried about running costs. BUT I don’t expect the QP to cost the same as a Renault Clio to own. The car won’t be a daily driver (I walk the half mile to work each day) but at the same time I intend using my QP regularly. And just like my current car, a gas-guzzling SUV, I will be making long trips to Europe. As I see it, I need to be realistic about the regular costs of ownership. Tax. Insurance. MOT. Then be prepared for the higher costs of servicing. And put some money by for the ‘What Ifs’. As long as I don’t need a suspension rebuild, a new gearbox AND two new turbos in the same year, I should be fine…… And I totally agree with you that life’s too short to drive only boring cars….. (did you say that? Or was that my evil twin?)
For the children, he means the back seat is big enough to copulate in. That said you would still be better off buying a Chrysler Pacifica because they have flip'n'fuck rear seats.
My first car was an ex-cop Ford Crown Vic. The teenager selling it to me said during the test drive, 1. it's great for donuts 2. back bench seat is perfect for sex. Despite the obvious indication that he'd done both, I bought the car, loved it.
I own a '08 Mercedes S Class. I went to test drive the 2012 QP. Unfortunately, I found this car to be a rattle trap, road very stiffly and uncomfortably, quite a bit noisy and although it was powerful, seemed to be a loosely made vehicle. I decided not to buy one and kept my Mercedes. I also drove the next generation 2015 QP model and it was bland and seemingly made poorly. I have decided to write off Maserati sedans for me. They simply seem to be a flawed, poorly made, noisy sedans. I've owned 73 vehicles since 1974, so in many ways I own cars they way you said you do.
It definitely doesn't have the sturdiness of a Merc, but its to be expected with a hand made Italian exotic. That's where most prospective owners get their expectations wrong, thinking of it as an Italian Jag etc, whereas it should be looked at as a four door Ferrari, with the same upsides and downsides of that. That being said, parts aren't too bad on price surprisingly, which is a nice advantage over many German luxury cars
I really always liked this model, but after driving a few of them, decided against owning one. Regardless of reliability or service costs, the car didn't drive well in my opinion.@@HSGAutomotive
I have several cars in my collection - including Mercedes W221 5.5 V8 2010, but I am tempted to buy a Maserati Quatroporte. The opinions are extreme - from delight to total disappointment....
Totally disagree about gearbox. I also bought mine back, but decided to stay wtih the Duo Select. Because of more involved with driving and nice feeling when you learn to go with the flow.
@@HSGAutomotive I think the design is a matter of engineering taste: adult choice but also bit dull zf, or special and bit more demanding duo select. Rational and real minus for duo select is needing to replace clutch discs regularly, for about 3.000 euro. Like every other 75.000 kilometers when not driven by idiot. But when not driven daily, that is once in more then 10 years.
@@marcopastors1836 It would be were they not to get through clutches significantly quicker than that if used in ‘auto’ mode, something which any luxury limo should be able to do. That aside the clutches aren’t the only issue which the DuoSelect has anyway, they are known for common F1 pump failure.
@@HSGAutomotive that is true, though f1 problem unknown to me in more then 8 years ownership. Maybe lucky. I usually drive automode, but not like it is a race. Probably that is the reason for long intervals between changes. Now the cars get older, I think there will be more caring owners, would be a shame if they would be discouraged to buy the duo select. Driving it needs attention and is rewarding. Maybe worth a thought when you buy your fourth;-)
@@marcopastors1836for me personally, there is no point in owning this car and not driving it on a daily basis. Same goes for many other cars. That doesn’t make me an idiot, if anything it makes me more of a real driver than yourself. Whats the point of having a garage queen car and driving it once or twice a month? If that is the case, what is your daily driver because that car matters more than your weekend car The DuoSelect should have never been offered on a car like this. End of story. The purpose of the car leaned more towards the luxury side rather than performance so it should have a gearbox fit for purpose. It was even a terrible gearbox on Ferrari cars which are geared towards performance. By all means stay away from that dogshit of a gearbox
If I were to buy a vehicle with all this wild gadgetry, gadgetry which I have no interest in, I would or will be pulling fuses after I have things set the way I prefer. Visors, mirrors, sunroof (closed forever), memory seats, heated seats, heated steering wheel, heated turn signals, headlight wipers, automatic floor mats, AI steering (lol) adaptive cruise etc....
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I bought a new 2009 QP Executive GT & i still own it 15 years later in perfect condition. Love my Maserati QP 4.7.
Such a nice car! I'd love a podcast on these cars! That was actually a really cool idea when you mentioned it! You are always so informative and enthusiastic when it comes to talking about cars you love. As a huge car guy myself I definitely understand the passion! Great work! 😊👍
I agree I would love to hear more.
Just got a granturismo c. Luv it! 2017, 30,000 miles. 1st annual service, 1900.00. This car is like sitting in a woman's hand.
Nice video !
In GT7 we should see real tracks like:
- road america
-paul ricard/magny-cours
-kylami
-hockenheim
-imola
-malaysia/singapour
Please do it a podcast on the maserati
Love Maserati M139 , it’s one of the best Maserati ever built as you get 4 door Ferrari engine car for pennies compared even cheapest Ferrari California. It’s so enjoyable drive for every day or sport driving.
Very Well done and informative.
If you've seen the bulk of the videos on
the Quattroporte, you get the impression,
the owners work at Burger King and
get mad when they have to pay for an
oil change.
Thanks for no midroll ads, that's class, I
let all other ads run, no one lets midrolls run.
And thanks for including us in the US with
mpg not just liters.
I 'get' what you mean about trying out other
vehicles, for myself and I think many out
there, it could be a Rolls, Porsche, Ferrari, etc,
after a year or so , for me, its like la ti da....
what else is out there..
This is probably the first, 100% accurate review of this era of Maseratis, that I've seen.
I'd include the Granturismo, because they are similar cars. With the exception of the number of doors.
Love my Maserati and having owned one in my early thirties makes it feel special. It makes my Audi feel like a Honda when driving between the two.
07 Quattroporte's also have ZF's, some still have the F1 gearbox, but most of them are ZF cars.
I still own and drive my 2012 Quattroporte Sport GTS it has clocked over 40k kms. Other than the sticky buttons (which I just rubbed off) and some leather upholstery of the glove box panel bubbling off, and blue pseudo leather upholstery of the side of the seats almost melted with the seatbelt buckles sticking to them, after the car sat for some months during the pandemic, I have had no major issues with it.
Replaced the lower radiator hose though, a few years back and the coolant reservoir tank twice, oh and the power window mechanisms.
It still is a lovely car to drive around with the fam.
The best used quattroporte video in the internet.
Haha cheers 👍 glad you enjoyed
Very useful. Thanks for the review, I now feel educated on these. Have always fancied one. For the moment I'll stick with my Continental GT. But the time will come I'm sure!
Love the brand glad we have an honest review for once..I enjoy mine.most people bash the brand.i feel owning them is a passion..I like to sit in the ferrari maserati dealer while my car is in there..and they look after me because it's in my blood!
I owned a 08 GT and didn't have any issues with it except worrying about the camshaft variators needing replaced. At 28k I started it cold and heard that dreadful clicking noise for a second and said, that's it. I;m selling it. Why, inquired to several shops the cost of replacement and I was quoted, between 8 and 12 thousand dollars. I only paid 30k for the car with 14k miles on it. I'm currently looking for another GT with the year > 2010 where the variator issue was fixed.
Would love to hear the long form novel about this maginificent beast. Love it.
if maserati didnt start their production with the quattroporte and the duo select transmission in the beginning rather than the ZF, then their value wouldnt certainly not decrease so much
Yeah for sure, which I suppose we can thank for making these such bargains
Great video Michael
Thanks baba 😘
I really love
How you describe a difference between a jaguar and a m139
Great job, real insights avoiding the usual anti-Italian blabber from British car journalists.
I loved my Duoselect, the Automática is just a nice Limusine (I owned both). The Duoselect was much sportier and aggressive. I loved to take it to the mountains to really drive it hard and feel all that power. I was lucky, I never had problems.
You knew how to drive.
Yes, my DuoSelect QP even feels sportier than my ZF GranTurismo S, despite the latter being a coupe and having a larger engine. Besides the slushbox, the ZF gear ratios are much lower, with 5th and 6th both being overdrive. The DuoSelect QP runs 3300 RPM at 80MPH in 6th gear, it's kinda insane (and inefficient).
Coupled with the QP having a much nicer interior build quality, it's clearly the more Italian car.
I also own both 2005 Quattroporte and 2012 Granturismo s. The Quattroporte duo select is the true drivers or petrol head car.
It is an involving and brilliant driving experience. The problem is most people have opinions without owning one.
The Quattroporte is sports sedan . This is not designed as a limo. I also had no issues with the transmission still on original clutch 62,000 miles, driven on manual sport mode only
Brother, I love your longer videos.
Have a nice day big man.
Would love to a long review of the quattroporte please
Great honest review
one of the best reviews I have seen on utube!
Good job!
I would have bought such an unpredictable car if it was not for the 2 tons....
My Alfa 166 3.0 from 99 is close to my dream car but I am missing the rear drive....
Help me find my dream car:
4-doors, not too young, not too long, not too heavy, more torque/ccm than horse power, rear drive and a history/"name"..
thanks
Simplest answer would be a C63 AMG, which I've also talked about on the channel, or perhaps one which I may buy at some point but haven't driven yet, the excellent Lexus ISF
lovely spec...never seen one in green
Confirmation!!!! ❤❤❤
Pls do podcaast on this car, want to learn more.
QUESTION!???……I am literally one day from grabbing a 2014 Q4 w/55k miles. I house all cars in the winter, and switch out every 10 days (I am down to 3 cars, this can be my fourth)….I put abt 3k miles per year, 4K tops on them, this would be the same. Should I still opt for a warranty?….send your thoughts. It’s my first one…RESPONSE WOULD BE CRAZY! Thanks in advance!
Each to their own but I never bother with extended warranties, most dealers etc only seem to try and find excuses to get out of them. As far as use, the more often the better when it comes to batteries etc.
@@HSGAutomotive so would u say, looking into buying it given the amount of mile I put on my cars should be fine w/no warranty?…OFCOURSE I will make my own decision, but asking. U def have the experience-I have the most reliable cars clogging up my garage-GX460, GSFSPORT, IS250, this one is the bastard!…doing my research b4 I adopt. Just got out of 3 cars-A7, A8,S4…..
Don't forget to check the subframe. They rot. Cracking cars though
I like the video and appreciate the content, but I'm not sure 5 months counts as "long term ownership". Even times 3. I mean, did you ever even take one of these things for a big 4th year service...? All cars like this have bad mpg and high tax, but a major service every 2 years (as opposed to 4 in a Porsche say) is a BIG difference in running costs. I'm more interested to hear about that
Deep green a killer colour
Yes definitely the perfect tone with cream leather interior, a Mafia hitman.would use this vehicle to paralize his victims bf termination
Thank you, amazing video.
Genuine question, is it worth spending the extra money? Picking up a decent early QP for £8/9k vs spending £15/20k on a later one?
Honest... thank you. But, still deterred based on that same honesty.
maserati granturismo/quattro are real maseratis, such beautiful and exciting cars that you always look forward to driving unlike the later gen quattro and ghibli and suv hellscape- dont even care that some bmw is faster, they can do what they want but the maserati is far more exciting in all ways
thanks for the truth man 🙏
I love driving my '06 DuoSelect model and personally wouldn't want the ZF version, but I get what you mean, it's odd for such a heavy car. Most people would probably not want it.
Also, I felt the need to spend $1200 and one afternoon dropping in a Formula Dynamics DBW mod to improve the shift speeds. The stock computer burns too much clutch smoothing out the shifts.
I have the fd unit in a gransport and it’s great. These cars are not terribly unreliable. I look at german cars and dont want to go near those issues. These cars are pretty basic.
@@2500BC Yeah I almost bought an M3 instead, but I thought it'd have just as many issues if not more, with less nice of an interior and just an ok exterior. Would've just been nice having a stick but oh well.
That check engine life
Please may I ask who you use for servicing?
Find you a good Indy mechanic. My 25k service was $3,500 at the Masi dealership. An oil change is $750 or Indy shop 120.00
2008 to 2012 are the FERRARI 's years. Best design best V8 QUATTROPORTE ENGINE ASPIRATO
Drove Audi Porsche and BMW but Maserati FERRARI road holding is exceptional
Do you know which other Maserati models use the Ferrari engine?
@@GRACEORT 4200, GranSport, and at least some of the GranTurismos (maybe all?).
Love the car on a 18 yr run with a 2006. Not one electrical problem. Has never not started get a agm battery. Yearly maintenance everything fine. The things you hear are bs.
Fantastic video mate.
I’m looking at quattroportes at the moment. With a budget of £15K max, I’m surprised to find a few low miles 08-09 examples that seem to tick all the boxes. And thanks for confirming my aversion to the Duo-Shift.
I’ve given up listening to everyone who says they’re all terrible money-pits. That might be the case for my other choice, a Bentley continental W12 GT. The gremlins seem to come as standard on those.
I just love the way the QP looks. And where I live at any rate, Bentley GTs are ten a penny.
I’m just a working bloke. So obviously I’m worried about running costs. BUT I don’t expect the QP to cost the same as a Renault Clio to own. The car won’t be a daily driver (I walk the half mile to work each day) but at the same time I intend using my QP regularly. And just like my current car, a gas-guzzling SUV, I will be making long trips to Europe.
As I see it, I need to be realistic about the regular costs of ownership. Tax. Insurance. MOT. Then be prepared for the higher costs of servicing. And put some money by for the ‘What Ifs’. As long as I don’t need a suspension rebuild, a new gearbox AND two new turbos in the same year, I should be fine……
And I totally agree with you that life’s too short to drive only boring cars….. (did you say that? Or was that my evil twin?)
For the children, he means the back seat is big enough to copulate in. That said you would still be better off buying a Chrysler Pacifica because they have flip'n'fuck rear seats.
My first car was an ex-cop Ford Crown Vic. The teenager selling it to me said during the test drive, 1. it's great for donuts 2. back bench seat is perfect for sex. Despite the obvious indication that he'd done both, I bought the car, loved it.
I own a '08 Mercedes S Class. I went to test drive the 2012 QP. Unfortunately, I found this car to be a rattle trap, road very stiffly and uncomfortably, quite a bit noisy and although it was powerful, seemed to be a loosely made vehicle. I decided not to buy one and kept my Mercedes. I also drove the next generation 2015 QP model and it was bland and seemingly made poorly. I have decided to write off Maserati sedans for me. They simply seem to be a flawed, poorly made, noisy sedans. I've owned 73 vehicles since 1974, so in many ways I own cars they way you said you do.
It definitely doesn't have the sturdiness of a Merc, but its to be expected with a hand made Italian exotic. That's where most prospective owners get their expectations wrong, thinking of it as an Italian Jag etc, whereas it should be looked at as a four door Ferrari, with the same upsides and downsides of that. That being said, parts aren't too bad on price surprisingly, which is a nice advantage over many German luxury cars
I really always liked this model, but after driving a few of them, decided against owning one. Regardless of reliability or service costs, the car didn't drive well in my opinion.@@HSGAutomotive
I have several cars in my collection - including Mercedes W221 5.5 V8 2010, but I am tempted to buy a Maserati Quatroporte. The opinions are extreme - from delight to total disappointment....
So the 2007 models aren’t good?
The crossover period where the older design had ZF boxes in 2007 could be a gem in there for sure, especially for someone who prefers the older design
No, the 4.0 Ferrari engines have the variator camshaft issues. 10k to 12k to have them replacement.
Love mine stay away f1 daul clutch u be all set zf trans one want
Totally disagree about gearbox. I also bought mine back, but decided to stay wtih the Duo Select. Because of more involved with driving and nice feeling when you learn to go with the flow.
The issue isn’t with feel or performance, it is with the inherently bad design of an automated manual and reliability issues which it causes
@@HSGAutomotive I think the design is a matter of engineering taste: adult choice but also bit dull zf, or special and bit more demanding duo select. Rational and real minus for duo select is needing to replace clutch discs regularly, for about 3.000 euro. Like every other 75.000 kilometers when not driven by idiot. But when not driven daily, that is once in more then 10 years.
@@marcopastors1836 It would be were they not to get through clutches significantly quicker than that if used in ‘auto’ mode, something which any luxury limo should be able to do. That aside the clutches aren’t the only issue which the DuoSelect has anyway, they are known for common F1 pump failure.
@@HSGAutomotive that is true, though f1 problem unknown to me in more then 8 years ownership. Maybe lucky. I usually drive automode, but not like it is a race. Probably that is the reason for long intervals between changes. Now the cars get older, I think there will be more caring owners, would be a shame if they would be discouraged to buy the duo select. Driving it needs attention and is rewarding. Maybe worth a thought when you buy your fourth;-)
@@marcopastors1836for me personally, there is no point in owning this car and not driving it on a daily basis. Same goes for many other cars. That doesn’t make me an idiot, if anything it makes me more of a real driver than yourself. Whats the point of having a garage queen car and driving it once or twice a month? If that is the case, what is your daily driver because that car matters more than your weekend car
The DuoSelect should have never been offered on a car like this. End of story. The purpose of the car leaned more towards the luxury side rather than performance so it should have a gearbox fit for purpose. It was even a terrible gearbox on Ferrari cars which are geared towards performance. By all means stay away from that dogshit of a gearbox
Maserari is like a mistress. If you don't look after it it will ruin your life, if you do look after it, it will still ruin your life.
If I were to buy a vehicle with all this
wild gadgetry, gadgetry which I have
no interest in,
I would or will be pulling fuses after
I have things set the way I prefer.
Visors, mirrors, sunroof (closed forever),
memory seats, heated seats, heated steering
wheel, heated turn signals, headlight wipers,
automatic floor mats, AI steering (lol) adaptive
cruise etc....
I'd have one in a heartbeat
Trouble is parts in the UK are so expensive as you know
Lovely looking motors though and super rare now.
Funny, I live in the US but could only find parts from a UK seller, Scuderia. They actually shipped pretty quickly.