Delonghi Dedica Maestro Plus: Full Review in Basic and Advanced Mode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video, we look at the BRAND NEW Delonghi Dedica Maestro Plus, also known as EC950. Let's see how this machine does in "basic" and "advanced" modes, and see what kind of features it has up its sleeves. Is this new machine from Delonghi worth it? Is it more intuitive? How does it do for pre-ground and freshly ground espresso? How is the autosteamer? Join me for this fun video. Links to the machine are below.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:38 Design
1:33 What's New?
3:26 Basic Mode
5:06 Espresso in Basic Mode
7:23 Milk frothing with the Auto Steam Wand
10:26 Advanced Mode
11:13 Espresso in Advanced Mode
14:09 Milk Steaming in Advanced Mode
16:12 Is it Worth it?
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I’m releasing this one a little bit ahead of schedule, because of the upcoming Easter weekend. The next and final video on this machine will be a comparison to the Breville Bambino plus. Expect that towards the end of next week. Wishing you all a great Easter holiday, to those who celebrate.😊
Have a good Easter holiday and thanks for all your efforts
Looking forward to that comparison. Happy Easter!
Have a nice weekend Tom! Nice review!
Would be good to know how this compares with a La Specialista regarding the brewing capabilities, setting aside the fact that this does not have a grinder as the La Specialista.
@@Herohector looking to this Tom's review, this machine is a bit better than LaSpecialista. I had Maestro (second edition of LaSpecialista) during two months and I really hate it. The grinder is awful and useless, the pre-infusion is awful, it is really tricky to play in 'advanced mode' instead of its stupid automatic functions etc etc. And it was really big! Here I can see more freedom with very similar tech specs. Off course both machines are just entry level home espresso-like coffee machines. But this small lady looks really impressive, so I would recommend to get this one and good grinder instead of LaSpecialista. Let's see next Tom's review with the comparison to the Breville Bambino and may be his suggestions about LaSpecialista too.
Yay, Tom! You reviewed our model coffee machine. We paid extra for this as the auto feature, for a teen in our house, is wonderful. We made the water dispenser more in each coffee extraction for individual setting, so more coffee and water in the mug, so personalised. The size fits perfectly on my small bench space and loved how you mentioned the economic hand grip under the machine for machine carrying or shifting. Your video and explanation on review were delightful and enjoyable to watch! As always. Thank you for your coffee channel. It made our decision to purchase our 1st coffee machine enjoyable and knowledgeable to learn. We found out that you can buy a delonghi cleaning kit for 5 usess, in bulk, a lot cheaper than individual packs. Bonus!🎉
Helo Adeine, thank you so much for your thoughtful feedback! Glad you're happy. :)
I hate cleaning the outside of the stainless steel always end up with marks. Great video thanks
Excellente démonstration avec explications claires , nettes et précises ..Merci pour la vidéo .
I hope you can get your hands on the non-Plus version of the Maestro (EC900). According to the data sheets it comes with unpressurized baskets and has a traditional (non-automatic) steam wand. It should also be somewhat cheaper than the Plus. For anyone intending to use the machine in what you call "advanced mode", that seems like the better option.
Hi. From what I’ve seen the ec900 is basically the same as former versions of the dedica, only changing the steam wand. But this machine is a brand new design
@@HerohectorYou appear to be confusing the Dedica Arte with the new Dedica Maestro (without the plus). The latter is indeed new and a sibling of the Maestro Plus reviewed in the video. The Arte is, as you describe, basically the original Dedica with a new steam wand.
Excellent job!
Tom looks like younger version Gary Oldman 👍👍 U inspired me using delonghi to make some great espresso! amazing.!
Love your videos, Tom and thank you! I'm new to this and I'm overwhelmed. Was going to go with a Gaggia Classic Evo Pro until I read all about boiler gate so I considered the Bambino Plus. But I like all the improvements on this one. You did a very thorough analysis. And it comes w/ pressurized and non-pressurized here in the U.S. Of course I would upgrade to the IMS and bottomless portafilter but I've read reviews that stated this model does not accept other 51mm baskets. But you used them so I'm not sure where that discrepancy came from.
Thanks for your comment! You can use the IMS 51mm baskets on this machine, but you need a PF made for the La Specialista: amzn.to/4dfmQxC (affiliate)
I like this machine. I like light roast. Your other video comparison with Bambino helped me choose the Delonghi. It hasn't arrived yet.
Where did you get the bottomless Portafilter ?
Excellent video man! As always, do you have a list of accessories to upgrade this machine and where to buy them?
Hi,
Thank you for this new video. I'm looking for an espresso machine to buy, but I am reaaaaaly a beginner (I never made myself a coffee, I just used automatic machines until now). What I am looking for is a machine that can be fully automatic (so that I can have a decent coffee when I don't have much time to prepare it myself), but that can also be used in advanced mode, just as you say. So what you show here reinforce my choice.
Thanks!
Ha, Tom, I had to pause this and go make my morning latte on my Bambino Plus before resuming watching the rest of your video. . Not trading my machine ( and coffee making experience) in for this new one! I noticed that he Bambino Plus also has a slanted water tank and an ergonomic bottom for easy lifting. Hmm, it's like the Delonghi marketing team woke up and thought that they could just 'lift 'some of Sage/Breville's innovations and repackage them - the Maestro Plus's steam wand is a bit different though. Looking forward to your head to head comparison between the two machines. Please mention their dimensions including the weight. Love your videos, Tom!
Great review Tom! I’m seeing this model for $393 on Amazon here in the USA. Seems to be a great price for what you get. I previous bought two open box models of the Specialista Artist and found an issue with the coffee selector switch on the first one which I was able to make espressos but nothing else. The second one the OK button was the only thing that worked and was unusable all together which left me a bit nervous about even a brand new Specialista. This model is giving me high hopes with the reviews I’ve been seeing so far.
I know they've had issues with their La Specialista Arte, unfortunately. The Dedica Maestro Plus has been working great for me.
Hi! I bought a Krups Intuition and was fooling around with the nozzle and disconnected it whilst the machine was making Cappuccino and thus (I think) the machine ''ran dry'' so the system did not get any milk input, is it bad for the system? Should I return it because I never had this happen or is it totally fine, a lot of steam came out and that's it, the issue I guess is that I can't compare the milk foam to ''what it i supposed to be'' since it was the second cup!
Thanks Tom, great as usual although there was no dropping your scale or camera. :) Too bad about no hot water access perhaps I will know better after your Bambino comparison which to buy.
Lol, yes surprisingly no bloopers this time. The DMP vs BP is coming soon. Cheers!
Hi Tom, I think it would be nice to see how it compares to old Dedica Arte. Can you make a video about it?
This still looks like the Breville Bambino Plus is a better situation especially since it comes with some really good baskets included, both pressurized and non-pressurized, and a portafilter that's easier to get accessories for since there's more 54 mm stuff on the market now... and it gives hot water out of the steam wand
Hey Tom, big fan over here, managed to get beautiful and tasty coffee from my Dedica because of your videos. I feel a general liking towards the Delonghi products and am thinking about upgrading. In my country the Dedica Maestro Plus and La Specialista Arte are very close in pricing, not sure if it worth a video but in you subjective opinion which one do you think is better value?
Thank you and keep up the good content!
I think how they brew is quite similar, although I don't know if the La Specialista has a thermoprobe for a PID control. But the grinder kinda sucks on the La Specialista. Cheers!
always appreciate the reviews for the new products. Well, this machine looks really nice. I'm gonna stick with my Dedica Arte for right now since it's only two years old I don't feel I need to upgrade it all. That said, I always enjoy videos, so thank you very much.
About the descaling, how is it done? Yes, I read your comment answering about an upcoming video, but I am on the fence about getting this machine or just buying the one-step lower of the De'Longhi series (885).
The descaling video you gave about the adjustable wand to the machine was interesting, but this milk throttler wand looks very stiff and less flexible (obviously). So do you use (according to the user manual) a container to make the descaling pour into it?
I used a Nespresso Pixie for 3 years and stopped using it for over a year once I moved over to Espresso machines, but they have been a hit-and-miss, such as the De'Longhi Tamper function (where you had all-in-one) broke after a week of good cups of coffee made.
But back to the point, I used a container to describe the machine, and it was tricky at best because of what I had in my household.
I am not saying it is a problem, I just want to know if it descales like that to be efficient, or that an 885 might be a better choice for me.
Cheers for the video, still struggling to pick between 885 and 950. 😵💫
I can make a clearer question.
Do you feel that 950 are more sturdier than 885? As it is well built where it will last for a long time, or just get a feeling it will break after a year? (thinking about De'Longhi's Tamper for the "all in one" Espresso machine I bought that I mentioned earlier, so I am thinking about the Steam Wand if it would break just as easily).
For me where I live in Europe, it costs roughly slightly 2 times more than 885.
With everything to consider, in terms of maintenance, quality, the product, the machine, etc.
Does 885 win over 950, or is the 950 the best option to buy regardless of cost?
I am just having bad experiences with De'Longhi where the machines either make tasteless coffee (beans to cup machine), then break apart (all in one machine), and now to this.
P.S.
Your reviews and help with coffee grinders have been phenomenal, so I just want to pair it up with something that will perform rather than me being disappointed.
Hey Tom, as I always say great video. And thanks to you I now have one. Planning ahead, do you think you could do one of your descaling videos for this model? I used your original dedica descale video so much. And the delonghi videos are not as easy to watch as yours. If you do then a massive thank you. 🙏
Hi there! Sure, I'll do one when it's time to descale it. Thanks for the idea!
New subscriber! I would love if you could review the De’Longhi Elatta Explorer
Coming soon!
Awesome! Thank you!
Hi Tom thanks for all your helpful videos. Just got my Dedica EC950M after days of using I can’t pull a good shot. Bitter and dry sensation to the tongue. Help. Thanks Tom and have a nice Easter
Hi Donald, which beans, grinder, dose, and baskets are you using? Please also check here for reference. Beans make a big big difference: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/
Which size of grind I need to use?
What is the benefit of machines having pre-infusion in the espresso?
First I have to praise the excellent video. I appreciate the effort you put into recording and explaining the advantages and disadvantages of each device. I have two questions so if you can help me. I only drink espresso without milk, which means the pure taste of coffee without sugar and other additives. In your opinion, what is the best espresso machine with a portafilter and what is the best superautomatic machine if I am looking for the best espresso taste, the rest is not important to me. Thank you very much for your help!
Thanks for your kind feedback. For a SA, so far the best I've tried is the Dinamica Plus. I think the Jura E8 would also do a good job. For a portafilter machine, there are just so many options. I'd suggest getting one with a heated brew group, and ideally with an OPV and temp that you can regulate for different beans. Have fun looking!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for the suggestion for Dinamica. I don't really understand these technical things you mentioned. Do you have one or two device suggestions that have all of these things?
@@acmilanmilan7485 Feel free to contact me at my website, and I can give a few suggestions. It's easier to communicate that way. Cheers!
First of all thank you so much for all the information you sher with us. I would likw to know what is the maximum pressure Dedic 950 vs 685 because on both tehcnical specification it says 15 bar. is this the actual pressure or is the maximum pressure for wich the machine was tested for.
I measured it in my previous video (where I take the lid off), at 11-12 bar.
Happy Easter Tom!
Will you maybe do a review of the new Graef CM1116 flatburr coffee grinder, I believe it's around €500 and it looks similar to Eureka products?
Happy Easter! Hmm, you're right that it does look exactly like a Eureka, with a slightly different housing. I think Eureka is licensing out their product. They let Solis make one with the Solis name on it, too.
Hi, Do you know if this uses the "Thick film heating element" technology? Those are used in some of the Breville/Sage espresso machines. Thanks!
Sorry, never heard of that before. What is that?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner They are the printed heaters that are in the shape of a coil. Most new coffee machines seem to be using these particular heaters made by "Ferro Techniek ". I have a few projects that I want to use these in, and am looking for the easiest way to get one. They are basically "instant heat" zero boiler design heat sources
hey Tom, I recently got an EC950M and looking for upgrades, I remember you mentioned it has the same group head as the Specialista, are you sure the basket filters and portafilters for the Specialista would fit perfectly?
Yes, they do. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Alright! thanks for the reply!
thank you, have you explained in a video the differences between the baskets?
The pressurized ones are smaller, tapered, and force the liquid through just 1 hole, therefore creating the pressure on their own.
The non-pressurized have lots of holes, and are less tapered. The coffee fineness is responsible itself for the pressure.
@@TomsCoffeeCornerthanks, which one is better or is it a personal taste thing?
@@cyteen Non-pressurised baskets offer more control in terms of getting the coffee to exactly how you want it, but it does need more skill and experimenting. Pressurised baskets offer the option of using store bought pre-ground coffee, at the expense of a more mediocre shot. Objectively, the non-pressurised is better, but if you want a simpler straightforward experience to getting to espresso, then pressurised is better. So it really depends on how deep into the espresso rabbit hole you are willing to explore.
@@itsFisch thank you, got it!! take care
@@cyteen Non-pressurized is pretty much universally seen as better, but it requires a fresh bean, and a fine grind.
Is it worth buying this or just stick to the dedica art? For daily cappuccino.
With those 'new' feature upgrade for the dedica, I'll go with the Bambino. lol
Many thanks for another excellent video. Temperature wise, do you think this is more stable than GCD at least in advanced mode, but maybe the GCD better in basic mode? Shot wise, does this taste better than the GCD or bambino plus?
Do you mean the Gaggia Espresso Deluxe? I think their systems are quite similar, in fact the thermoblocks with temp probes look suspicously similar. But, the GED has an awful shower screen, and I don't really like the build quality as much as the Dedica. Cheers!
Yes I meant the Gaggia espresso. Thanks
I am thinking of buying the Delonghi EC885 model, but the temperature setting in EC900 model confused me, I like the coffee hotter.
Does the EC900 or EC950 model have more hot water features than the EC885?
I would be happy if you help.
If the EC900 is similar in price to the EC885, then for sure get the newer model. But if not, then the EC885 should do alright too.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for the answer.
I couldn't find the EC900 or EC950 model in the european region (on the internet, amazon etc.)
It seems like there is no other option.
EC885 or wait for EC900 model.
I still am not convinced that it is better than my ECP 3420. If Delonghi would only update that model with a better steam wand and a PID we would have the perfect manual machine. Thank you for the Review,
So far it is slightly better than 3420....my 3420 broke twice, we shall see.
Hi Tom, i appreciate your videos a lot. Do you have any opinions, or experienced thoughts on laekerrt machines? They seem good? But there are no in-depth reviews out there.
Hmm, to me it looks like another Chinese no name, like Gevi, Silvercrest, etc. Cheers!
Ps - I don't concentrate on machines like this because these companies can be here today, and gone tomorrow.
Does the auto purge help lower the boiler temp in order to pull another shot right away? I usually have to manually purge quite a long time with my Arte
Yes sir! This was something confusing for a lot of new users - they often turned the machines off, then back on, to pull a shot after steaming. Now it cools itself down automatically.
The included non-pressurized basket with the tapered walls required a coarser grind (and a stuck puck), but the IMS basket worked ok.
My 51mm IMS without the ridge on the top does not fit but the one with the ridge fits.
Yes, I think they made it that way, as it stems originally from the La Specialista line. They come with grinders that don't grind very fine, so the taper was required. I like using an IMS basket and a finer grind. Thanks for checking in! Tom
Tom can you verify that the Ears on the portafilter are smaller on this model than other Delonghi espresso machines, i bought a bottomless portafilter for this unit and the ears were bigger than the filter that came with this unit and wouldnt fit , do you know of a wood handled bottomless 51mm that will work with this machine? Appreciate it thank you
Yes, I have a link in the video description. In fact, it's the same PF as the La Specialista line.
@@TomsCoffeeCornerExcellent thx Brother 🙏🏻
My experience with earlier models of the Dedica machine has led me to think that their main drawback is inadequately low and inconsistent (between shots) water temperature, often producing sour shots. From your description of this new model, its performance seems to be better and more consistent with respect to water temperature. Would you agree with this conclusion?
Yes, I'd say so. I've done several temp measurements, but just showed the 96° curve here. The Dedica seems to have 40° at the brew group before extracting, shoots up quickly to the target temp, then bows down a little during the middle, and goes back up towards the end. In the video comparing the Dedica to the BP, I compared measurements, and they do behave quite differently. I find the Dedica more favorable. Thanks for watching!
There is a small "hack" which a German Barista Team came up with to have consistent Espresso shots with the Dedica. When starting the machine, you're just pouring a single shot to pre-heat the Basket. And after that just start between each new Espresso shot, the Pre-Infusion 2x times. Meaning you're pressing the button to give out an Espresso (Doesn't matter if single or double) and immediately after the Pre-Infusion stops, you cancel the process and do that another time. After that, you put in the Basket and get your normal Espresso Shot. Hopefully that helps.
Thanks, Tom. Your videos and advice are very helpful. @@TomsCoffeeCorner
Hi Tom. I was lucky to get my hands on the Maestro (not plus) version. Hope you can get your hands on this as this comes only with non pressurised basket. Relying on your expertise to get the most out of that machine. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Where’d you find it?
I am in Australia. 😊
@@firsstknight5818 lucky duck 🦆😅
hi. I just got a bottomless portafilter for ec680 dedica for my maestro on the assumption that they should be the same but it appears not to fit the maestro. Curious what is the size of those ears and would the dedica portafilter fit maestro? Thanks
@@firsstknight5818 No, you have to get the PF for the La Specialista. Cheers!
I'd call myself an intermediate enthusiast. Unfortunately my introductory machine has died after only a year and I need to find a replacement. It seemed to be very closely engineered after the original Dedica and I much enjoyed the design which makes me attracted to the Delonghi over a Breville. Unfortunately, I'm stuck between the Dedica Arte and the Maestro.
A couple things holding me up - 1. this machine is over twice the price of the Arte, and while the automatic features are appealing, I don't feel they're vital for me. I am curious, however, how much the tempurature control will improve the quality of my brew.
2. I purchased a portafilter upgrade for my last machine in 51mm. That wasn't too long ago and it will be frustrating to need to purchase another bottomless filter on the side if i upgrade to a 54mm grouphead
Curious on thoughts of whether the upgrade is worth all this
Hi Sami, well just so you know, the DMP also has a different portafilter than the Arte. But there's also no guarantee that the PF you bought for your previous machine will work in a Dedica. Which market are you in? USA?
Great video as always although I am not exactly sure why they created this machine, it seems way too overpriced for now for what it is
thanks for video, why it's better to keep it there for 60 seconds ? thanks
Because otherwise it'll splatter everywhere from the residual pressure.
Hey you recommend spending little more on the machine or go with the previous model?
Depends how much the difference is. I think this one is better due to the temp adjustments though.
sounds like you cannot get hot water to use for tea out of this machine? I like the compact size and everything else but would like to be able to get hot water as I have a small apartment. Am I understanding correctly and if so what machine would you recommend?
Right, it doesn't have a hot water outlet. You could consider the Bambino Plus, or really most other machines provide it.
What is the function of the 2 solenoids you mention?
They are to switch between espresso and steam mode, and purge the water circuit, or steam wand. I show it here: th-cam.com/video/4_zP_rnLuDU/w-d-xo.html
No hot water that’s a bummer. My wife’s a big tea drinker and I love making her a London fog. Great video Tom ☕️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😎
Get a kettle!
How did the first sip of hot water taste? 😄
Dessini CM 1820 for next video,please😬!
Hmm, to me it looks like another Chinese no name, like Gevi, Silvercrest, etc. Cheers!
Ps - I don't concentrate on machines like this because these companies can be here today, and gone tomorrow.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Noted🥲
The price difference of more than 200 euro with the previous Dedica is insane.
I think they have to amortize a new design. The new solenoids cost like $25-50 each alone. Cheers!
I really wanna know if you drank the hot water at 5:15
Lol, I considered it, but tossed it in the end. Cheers!
Aw, it's not made of ferromagnetic stainless steel? That's kind of a bummer. Can't stick your magnetic coffee gear onto it.
This is the first time I've seen you have trouble pouring latte art. You did even better with stock Panarello steam wands.
Yes that's right, the SS of the housing is not magnetic. As for the latte art, it's not easy when auto-frothing, as the consistency is not ideal. I have however gotten decent latte art in manual mode off camera, but I used 1.8% here, and that frothed up too much. But also, I think the thermoprobe gets in the way of the swirl a bit. Finally, I am sometimes inconsistent at latte art, so could be some user error mixed in.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I think it also makes it worse that it purges inside of the milk, adding water, which will make it harder to get a nice microfoam.
@@CaveyMothNo, it actually purges into the drip tray. That’s the gurgling sound you hear. 😂
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Ohh, that is really cool!
I would call this new DMP as missed opportunity for DeLonghi. Ugly steaming wand aka horse leg and several three-way solenoids none of them used to release pressure from head are from my point of view unforgettable construction and design flaws.
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Lol, nope.
450 €omg my ec685 130 €