Sandy has a hell of a young man on his hands in Jordan. Very well spoken, super knowledgeable, and a clean cut guy. He's made for being one of the faces of the company for sure.
I could listen to Jordan explain suspension, NVH, SORB, aero, packaging, or whatever all day. Calm, articulate, concise, provides context to cater to a wide audience, and honestly makes me regret not studying engineering. Seems like a good guy. If you offered a raffle for a date with Jordan + our underbodies for an educational tour, you’d sure sell a lot of tickets to folks who want to better understand our machines so we can optimize utilization and modifications. I’d have him under my 02 Miata any day
Take all the words and sum it up… Jordan is boring. People come to this channel to also hear the great spirit.. Sandy Munro. Day he retires, day this channel views drop by more than half.
@@johnross6314 Completely disagree with you. Yes, Sandy is a great man but listening to him can be a struggle when he stammers and staggers. And yeah I get it, he's not a youngster and as quick with his words. But to say Jordan is boring, you're so off base.
Jordan is great at defining terms in the context of his explanation. Really helps someone like me who doesn’t know a lot about cars but finds this whole process fascinating. Great work.
That's what I'm thinking too. Another use might be some future type of inductive charging system, but most likely it's for the extended battery pack in the bed.
I was going to comment about this but I see you beat me to it. Yes, that is exactly what it is for. The range extender will be 800v and it makes sense for it directly terminate into the main pack.
I really appreciate a high level conversation where all parties are willing to say they individually don’t know something or are unsure of their knowledge. Very refreshing. Well done.
The more I watch Jordan's presentations during the Munro Live videos, the more impressed I am by his technical eloquence & knowledge. He's a keeper, Sandy! 26:09 The word you seek is erudite. jus' sayin'...
ironic seeing as the basic engineering of the cyberjoke is around pathetic level. WHO the heck is so DUMB that they have a wiper blade that tries to push water down the screen? If it was a 10 yo child that designed that - you'd explain to him that physics would render the device useless. .. Americans are only race on earth where this junk would sell
I really liked the explanation of what is involved in absorbing the energy of a crash. The wheel being relatively rigid, and _needing_ to be broken, along with the suspension member, is not something I have heard.
@@MunroLive hey Sandy and team, thanks for the vid. You probably know by now that you've been " white anted " by your friend McElroy. Just in case you've never heard the term " white ant " before, it is an Australian slang term used to describe a situation where a low life, like McElroy, has undermined Sandy's reputation and business by going to air with the CT teardown first. It's sort of a covert type of sabotage. IMHO i reckon McElroy has worked 48 hour days to get his teardown started before Munroe Live.
you people at Monroe Thank you very much for doing this . I just love the cyber truck design . I can’t wait to see you dismantle every piece of this thing.
There is plenty of delicate wires and tubes exposed to the elements. Off roading or mudding may test the durability and reliability of this layout. All the open cells in the castings can load up with mud or ice, and make a mess once parked in the garage. CT appears to be an ongoing experiment that hopefully works out well.
Yup. There's probably a lot of companies testing the truck to its limit to sell protectors and stronger parts right now. Can't wait for what the markets comes up with.
What I like about Sandy; vs another channel.that did a teardown is, Sandy and team actually go into great detail, discuss the logic of how a vehicle is built, and how features of a.particular vehcle can be improved and or implamented in other vehicles. On the other channel; their cyner truck was.alreasy torn down, and their video pnly.covered a few things. Obviously, this channel will have several videos thay will break down the cybertruck in stages, making for a more inormative experience.
Im actually subscribed to both, there needs not to be a winner or the best in EVs but good pieces of the same puzzle, channels are like the way we google for information, you get 2 or more perspectives of the same thing and the true picture will be revealed to you. they are both doing very well by my standards.
I thought with Cory gone, this channel would feel lost on interactive information.. but hells no! Snady has assembled an impressive team of talented engineers. Kudos!
I still liked Corey though. We was such an asset. My wife and I also sat and had lunch with Corey during their plaid stop in NJ. If anyone can save lucid it would be Corey but I think Lucid just does not have a future and can not be saved no matter what. I feel leaving was a pointless endeavor.
As a fellow engineering nerd, I'm enjoying this immensely. Who know how excited one can become about a laser weld being done perfectly? I appreciate the depth of knowledge demonstrated here. Wisdom is the integral of experience.
lol!!!!! because he has never seen a perfect lazer weld right!!! what a joke! most of those machines are made in Europe/Germany so he doesnt know everything in the automotive industry at all!
for exmample, the mercedes UNIMOG is full of crazy technologies and options he has never seen! the mercedes vario pilot is a system that allows you to literlay slide both the pedals and steering wheel plus control from left to right depending on the use.
the plastic guard under the front suspension is a great ifea!! My f350 kicked a rock and took out the vacuum system for $1600. Another great idea by Tesla who looks after the customer and not their stealerships.
@@FzudemBif you're going off-roading then you must have the common sense to clean your underbody after off-roading, if not you're just a lazy off-roader who does not care about the vehicle.
On front suspension carrier, the two blue lines are paint torque stripes holding on what could be Bob-weights, used to cancel harmonic frequencies at higher speeds.
@@MunroLive The unused high voltage plug on the battery pack is most likely for an inverter for an after market camper conversion or similar conversion, it`s unlikely to be for the additional battery hook up point as it`s look to small to handle the voltage/amp draw.
The one autoline published seems more like a "lets tear this apart" ohh blue connectors vs Jordans describing the structure with references as to why and whats new.
its nothing special! rear steering has been done by wire for very very long time! its just the same thing in the front except redundancy built in. in europe alot of trucks from mercedes, volvo, scania... comes with multiple steering axles sometimes 3 for much better turning capabilities in tight citie roads.
@@carholic-sz3qvAnd Steer-By-Wire has already existed. I don't get why people hate it. Rear-steer isn't anything new, but the CT can do up to 10 degrees (apprently) and I think that's just overkill.
Sandy is back hitting his stride. It feels like he got his mental & emotional health on track. Great to hear different voices describing all this engineering going into Cybertruck!
I’ve seen 2 videos where it broke. Both cases of severe abuse: Diesel bro’s adding tracks on massive spacers and the Tesla team slamming full speed into a ditch in Baja. Which is the 3rd? Failure points are intentionally designed. Maybe they want it to fail for crash safety?
@@bob15479 Suspension didn't fail in Baja and obviously putting massive tracks that stick out a huge amount puts an insane amount of load due to leverage.
@@hoppingrabbit9849 No, because back then you didn't have ignorant fools propagating nonsense on social media they've heard from other mouth breathers.
I particularly like how Jorden interjects explanations regarding terminology for structural components. This presentation has re-invigorated my enthusiasm towards my future cyber truck ownership. You discussions were very interesting.Excellent production by the Munro team.
This is the only place to come for a detailed inspection of this truck . Now sandy is not completely biased to Tesla . As a engineer he is a bit of a fan boy but can give constructive criticism that Tesla does listen to .
I have been waiting years for this. I will probably never afford a cybertruck of my own, but I have been following every development. I trust Sandy's team to give me the lowdown and nitty gritty details I want.
I see a lot of people saying the extra connectors on the pack are for the add on battery pack but they are much too small to handle the power from that pack. Connectors would need to be the size of the larger ones nearby to handle the amperage. Update: Service manual says they are for inductive charging which is low power.
I think the open high voltage connector at the back of the battery pack is to connect to the range extender battery in the bed. I think this is a good sign that the extender will really exist one day. I think the low voltage one at the rear might be for trailer electrical connections.
Looks like T-Sportline will get much business with the Aluminum Rear and Front Skid plates ( I mean not even plastic skid covers stock if I viewed the CT correctly?) I put Collant shelds and skid plates on KARR.
@normt430 I think your conversation got onto my comment somehow but I had to watch the rest of the video on my lunch break. The pigtail has the blue markings so one would assume it's 48v.
I’ve seen a few videos and pictures of that upper A arm in the front suspension bending under extreme off roading. Is this a weak part in the design? This truck seems to be designed more for hi-way driving than off roading. Which is fine but it seems like it would be hard to modify the truck.
I sure hope Tesla has gotten much better quality bushings than what they’ve been using on the 3/Y. The LCAs have been redesigned numerous times and yet still the bushings still fail as soon as 20,000 miles, but typically no more than at 60,000 miles. Seeing how this is supposedly set up to go off road and carry all the extra weight of the truck itself and potentially trailering, the bushings need to be vastly improved or they’re going to fail prematurely. Also, the placement of those fans on the back of the radiator look like they would be easily damaged or filled with muddy water due to how low they’re positioned.
TY!@@markjonzYeah, I figure, just, oddly, sometimes you gotta ask! Like about that area that's going to get full of mud, or whatabout the headlights! That's gotta get jammed up with mud and snow! Then it'll ice over, too! Or, why didn't they all put the plugin on the passenger side! Ever! Putting them elsewhere, particularly driver side, makes sense in a Not 1st Principle way! Just following what was best practises from ICE! Silly. That'll be costly to correct and so they'll stall on it. Missing opportunities for goods & services for a large market. I am figuring someone will work out that plugin need to be passenger side!
First video on the cybertruck. The extra high voltage connector under the truck. Wouldn't that just be for the optional long range battery pack that will go into the rear tray when they get around to shipping them out?
@Munro Live these videos are always great but this one just hit it out of the park! For all the budding automotive engineers out there that love this stuff, are you guys able to organise a brief sit down with Tesla's Chief Suspension Engineer and film a bit of a run through? Mate, that would be gold.
@@JRP3 I agree; but, The bed pack doesn't need to be a act as the traction pack. That extra HV connector is the same size as the charging connector. The bed is a range extender for the traction pack and only needs to charge the traction pack -- like a range extender.
@@fiddlerJohnThe wire cross section looks smaller than direct DC charging wires. Plus since it's intended for extension when towing, (i.e. heavy loads and power draw), and will probably be hooked in parallel with the main pack any voltage drop under load will draw a lot of current from the extension pack. Unless they are putting a charge controller between the two packs to limit current draw, that's a possibility.
@@fiddlerJohnI don't think that's the charging connector. V4 superchargers are capable of 350kW, Cybertruck must be capable of at least that if not more, 350,000 W divided by 800V is 437.5A, those connectors are no where near large enough for that current.
Seriously impressive information from this video. The understanding and explanations of why things are done on are top notch from Munrow and associates. You guys really know this stuff better than most. Absolutely amazing watching you guys nerd out
What is going to happen when you drive one of these on snow and ice and salt-covered roads? Looks like lots of crevices and places where snow and ice and salt are going to accumulate, Is everything down there made of highly corrosion-resistant materials? What happens at the junctions between dissimilar metals? You might be able to hear the whole vehicle hissing due to corrosion.
What really surprises me on the aft end of the battery is all the critical components exposed in line with the rear drivetrain. When you’re off the main path, loose logs, sticks and rocks tend to drive upwards when the weight of the tires come into contact.
Those steering knuckles remind me of the Can-Am Maverick R's knuckles that everyone hates. Will be limited on how large diameter of tire you can put on the cybertruck with the stock knuckles.
Actually it is clearance in the wheel opening. The aftermarket people who do the wrapping, interiors, etc have been working on wheel packages larger and smaller. I think they used spacers to get around the knuckle.
15:00 the open connector is for the Range Extender (installed by the Service Center, not a user accessory) occupies 30% of the bed, allegedly compatible with other bed accessories (e.g. Basecamp tent) adds 110-140 miles' range, and costs an estimated $16,000 … : )
I what to see the battery teardown. Is the truck full? If so, how terrible is the density that they couldn't meet battery day specs? It's crazy they couldn't get 500 miles without adding an auxiliary pack.
@@kyleJ82 They could (they have the space and could then take off these 100 mm (4 inches) from the seat brackets). This would add enormous weight however, about 500-550 kg: about 1332* 355 g = 472 kg for the 4680 cells, and some more for busbars, cooling plate, fasteners and stuff. It would reduce payload by the same amount (from 1135 kg to only about 600 kg) or they would need to change all the other stuff to make up for that extra weight.
No doubt it would create more problems and more engineering. I'm just thinking that maybe they go that route in the future. The auxiliary pack seems really stupid, as you lose cargo space and because of weight and HV-stuff, you can't simply use it when needed.
Open battery connector is for the extended range pack that drops into the truck bed. It will probably just tie in directly to the main pack to increase overall capacity.
With the bolt coming down from the front upper control arm’s ball joint, what happens when you put chains on the tire? Will the chains snag on that bolt?
Let the tech bros & influencers buy it at 120 K $ now. It will be at 60 K $ in a few years, maybe even in refreshed/upgraded versions. Just look at the X & S prices going down those last years.
Ok, I mention it because of this video where Tesla want's to replace a model 3 battery because the coolant plastic fitting has broken off: th-cam.com/video/n8-OkfCcRAo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gbj_8nHuQuN3jQHY&t=69 Based on this video I would definitely prefer a coolant connector that is easy to repair. In general plastic parts gets hard and brittle after a few years which not very environmentally friendly. A good exampel is a 10 year old BMW engine compartments where there is a lot of brittle parts that can not be disconnected. Another example is the hood of this John Deere tractor: th-cam.com/video/pYbmGZeFMd4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Jki1gYAC6fQWTTK0&t=107 Just shitty design that is just unacceptable if you give a damn about repair-ability and the environment.
Those "Mud collectors" are Skid Plates under each lower wishbone, additional add on protection intended to preserve the unscathed factory new integrity of aluminum. There could of been a nice cut out/circular drain point at the "U" of the wishbone. Current design , they provide an excellent place to smuggle anything small to destination of your choice 8>)
IIRC, the extra harness ends are for future use for accessories (Tesla and 3rd party), that can be controlled via switching in the main UI display. Winches, offroad lights, etc.
15:40 The extra connector is for the range extender battery that sits in the box of the truck. I believe that Tesla originally wanted a 200 Kwh battery in this truck but the slow ramp of the 4680 meant they had to go smaller battery and impliment a range extender pack.
Out of Spec just range tested the CT against the 200KWh silverado WT4. Battery weights alsost twice as much but the added weight only got them tjo the low 400s miles while the CT did 310, more than Tesla listed. And this was at 70 mph. Time for people to put a cork in it about the battery in this truck. If you want the 200KWh buy the silverado.
I am interested in finding out what the repair cost would be for a low speed rear end collision. My guess is those cast part are hugely beneficial till X and then very expensive to replace. It is true of all vehicles that at a certain point enough damage gets done that the vehicle gets written off but is there a big difference here?
Great show, the laymen’s terms and the easily understandable explanations is what gives this show a AAA rating. Sandy’s past related experiences with the added engineering comments is great ! Keep up the good work. Top ten on my list.
What a great episode! Really gained a sense of design and engineering decisions applied to an area of the vehicle that's normally unexplored territory for us laypersons, exactly why I subscribe. Thanks and all the best.
The 3 bolts on that airfoil underneath the suspension is the old solid way of attaching things. Snap on would not work in this area. It would rattle and and off. 😎😎😎
Jordan is the MVP of explaining technical details.
Copy that .. to the power of ten.
Absolutely. He not only knows his business but knows how to communicate it to others. Rare skill.
Most Variegated Petunia...
I'll have Jordan over Elon to help me with manufacturing every single time.
Yes amazing what you can achieve when you're paid by Tesla
Thanks for translating all the acronyms Jordan, I truly appreciate that.
Thissss. As someone who isn’t a mech eng, it really helps!
I also found it very helpful. Thank you, Jordan!
@@while-loop even for engineers that just aren't automotive engineers it is helpful and respectful of the audience.
Sandy has a hell of a young man on his hands in Jordan. Very well spoken, super knowledgeable, and a clean cut guy. He's made for being one of the faces of the company for sure.
And Sandy is the exact same size as the little fella 😂
I could listen to Jordan explain suspension, NVH, SORB, aero, packaging, or whatever all day. Calm, articulate, concise, provides context to cater to a wide audience, and honestly makes me regret not studying engineering. Seems like a good guy. If you offered a raffle for a date with Jordan + our underbodies for an educational tour, you’d sure sell a lot of tickets to folks who want to better understand our machines so we can optimize utilization and modifications.
I’d have him under my 02 Miata any day
You're clearly gay. From the way you write, 2nd from what you drive.
He is a good technical speaker, extremely articulate.
Take all the words and sum it up… Jordan is boring. People come to this channel to also hear the great spirit.. Sandy Munro. Day he retires, day this channel views drop by more than half.
That all sounds vaguely erotic and I can't argue with that either 😏
@@johnross6314 Completely disagree with you. Yes, Sandy is a great man but listening to him can be a struggle when he stammers and staggers. And yeah I get it, he's not a youngster and as quick with his words. But to say Jordan is boring, you're so off base.
What I really like is how safe you guys are in lifting that beast. Shake test and extra jack stands. Bravo on safety.
Haha! Wow!
And thanks for removeing the rods from the jack stands once set in place. They stick out at eye level, so another shoutout for doing things safely!
Not to mention their using BendPak, one of the safest ALI Certified lifts on the market 🙂
Not the heaviest truck around.
You must not only be safe.
You must be seen to be safe.
The great thing about Murno Live is that it's obvious they let experts on instead of "personalities". Love listening to you guys.
WTF where they supposed to do lol!!!!!!
Jordan is great at defining terms in the context of his explanation. Really helps someone like me who doesn’t know a lot about cars but finds this whole process fascinating. Great work.
The connector is for the extended battery package that you can't get yet
That's what I'm thinking too. Another use might be some future type of inductive charging system, but most likely it's for the extended battery pack in the bed.
I was going to comment about this but I see you beat me to it. Yes, that is exactly what it is for. The range extender will be 800v and it makes sense for it directly terminate into the main pack.
I hear it’ll hit the streets in 2029
The range extender will basically act as a DC to DC charger when the range extender pack voltage exceeds the main pack voltage.
Flux capacitor option
Jordan is well spoken and pleasant to listen too. Thanks for the insight.
Great video. Jordan's knowledge is extensive and impressive.
Jordan is a beast of an engineer
He's good but also props to Kevin as Jordan was wrong on the reason for SPRs
@boostav look at us nerds fighting like they are professional athletes making a play. 🤣
I really appreciate a high level conversation where all parties are willing to say they individually don’t know something or are unsure of their knowledge. Very refreshing. Well done.
No arguments here
Indeed. Never trust someone who "knows" everything.
The more I watch Jordan's presentations during the Munro Live videos, the more impressed I am by his technical eloquence & knowledge. He's a keeper, Sandy!
26:09 The word you seek is erudite. jus' sayin'...
I voted for him to replace Cory late last year. 👍🏻😀
Omg I was thinking the same thing. Dude is seriously sharp
I think he used the word “obscuration” in their Rivian body video. I was skeptical it were even a word.
alot of words... not alot of information.... my opinion
Jordan is the star! Thank you for letting him talk and share his knowledge..
Finally engineers explaining engineering stuff so an engineer like myself can have a smile on his face!!!
ironic seeing as the basic engineering of the cyberjoke is around pathetic level. WHO the heck is so DUMB that they have a wiper blade that tries to push water down the screen? If it was a 10 yo child that designed that - you'd explain to him that physics would render the device useless. .. Americans are only race on earth where this junk would sell
Even for someone who does not care and who drives a 20 year old Tundra and likes it, these vids are a treat. Thanks, Bob
I really liked the explanation of what is involved in absorbing the energy of a crash. The wheel being relatively rigid, and _needing_ to be broken, along with the suspension member, is not something I have heard.
It's amazing what goes into the engineering of an automobile, especially crash the worthiness.
A rapidly deflating tyre will absorb a LOT of energy!
Hell yea! Best channel on TH-cam to learn about EVs
And how everyone's been duped? Lol
Yes
@@samholdsworth420 crazy how you guys used to use his criticisms of teslas as expert reference. Now you're tune has changed
@@Capthrax1 agreed, a pathetic lowlife
IF you really wanna know about EV's go and ask the organisation that mandated them - the same Euro sociopaths than mandated CBDC's, oh, and Bug Food
Wow, a video on TH-cam about this thing from someone who actually knows what they're talking about instead of fanboying or trolling it. Thumbs up.
I learn so much from these videos. Thank you Monro Team, you guys are amazing
Our pleasure!
@@MunroLive hey Sandy and team, thanks for the vid. You probably know by now that you've been " white anted " by your friend McElroy. Just in case you've never heard the term " white ant " before, it is an Australian slang term used to describe a situation where a low life, like McElroy, has undermined Sandy's reputation and business by going to air with the CT teardown first. It's sort of a covert type of sabotage. IMHO i reckon McElroy has worked 48 hour days to get his teardown started before Munroe Live.
@aussie_al we have another term for it here in Aus, *rselicker...
If yours is clean, now you know.
you people at Monroe
Thank you very much for doing this .
I just love the cyber truck design . I can’t wait to see you dismantle every piece of this thing.
There is plenty of delicate wires and tubes exposed to the elements. Off roading or mudding may test the durability and reliability of this layout. All the open cells in the castings can load up with mud or ice, and make a mess once parked in the garage. CT appears to be an ongoing experiment that hopefully works out well.
Yup. There's probably a lot of companies testing the truck to its limit to sell protectors and stronger parts right now. Can't wait for what the markets comes up with.
Also there will be a lot of learning to do by Tesla based on what people breaks 😂
@@leonvolq6179😂 there isn’t an aftermarket for a truck that will have less than 200k on the road in three yrs 😂
@@hoppingrabbit9849 200K - THAT MANY? In three years Elon will have brought them all back - $$$$$$$$$$$$ down the drain
The “little fella” carries a lot of weight at Munro. Thank you, Jordan, for keeping in mind that several of us are NTB. (not too bright)😂😂
Spelling out the acronyms is awesome. Keep it up
Keep on doing that Jordan! Thank you!
What I like about Sandy; vs another channel.that did a teardown is, Sandy and team actually go into great detail, discuss the logic of how a vehicle is built, and how features of a.particular vehcle can be improved and or implamented in other vehicles. On the other channel; their cyner truck was.alreasy torn down, and their video pnly.covered a few things. Obviously, this channel will have several videos thay will break down the cybertruck in stages, making for a more inormative experience.
The other video was incredibly boring.
When I was a kid, I couldn't get things apart quickly enough to see what's inside.
All I ended up with was a pile of junk and cut fingers.
Im actually subscribed to both, there needs not to be a winner or the best in EVs but good pieces of the same puzzle, channels are like the way we google for information, you get 2 or more perspectives of the same thing and the true picture will be revealed to you. they are both doing very well by my standards.
I thought with Cory gone, this channel would feel lost on interactive information.. but hells no! Snady has assembled an impressive team of talented engineers. Kudos!
I still liked Corey though. We was such an asset. My wife and I also sat and had lunch with Corey during their plaid stop in NJ. If anyone can save lucid it would be Corey but I think Lucid just does not have a future and can not be saved no matter what. I feel leaving was a pointless endeavor.
Cory is in a SAUDI Consulate.
@@markplott4820 al habibi
Corey is a fool for leaving Sandy.
@@donwise8767 especially by moving to Lucid 💩
wow, an incredibly knowledgable engineering analysis done on sight, and presented clearly without any subjectivity? Instant sub
The munro team is so top notch. Im a happy man when you guys are tearing something apart 😂
It's great hearing you 3 Brainiac's go over this machine. I'm looking forward to the tear down and all the info that comes from it. Thanks
As a fellow engineering nerd, I'm enjoying this immensely. Who know how excited one can become about a laser weld being done perfectly? I appreciate the depth of knowledge demonstrated here. Wisdom is the integral of experience.
Doubt the battery pack stampings are laser welded. Look to be in the correct location for traditional electrode spot welding.
spot welds are the round dimples if thats what you were referring to
lol!!!!! because he has never seen a perfect lazer weld right!!! what a joke! most of those machines are made in Europe/Germany so he doesnt know everything in the automotive industry at all!
for exmample, the mercedes UNIMOG is full of crazy technologies and options he has never seen! the mercedes vario pilot is a system that allows you to literlay slide both the pedals and steering wheel plus control from left to right depending on the use.
@@carholic-sz3qv not a lazer weld ya dope its spot weld. and he compares to original tesla spot welds they improved
That subframe is made of stamped sheetmetal, it is hollow and has no rust protection, it will quickly rust away in wet/snowing climates
I’m very impressed with how intelligent Sandy’s new VP is .Extremely competent technically and an even better orator.
the plastic guard under the front suspension is a great ifea!! My f350 kicked a rock and took out the vacuum system for $1600. Another great idea by Tesla who looks after the customer and not their stealerships.
Well it'll gather mud and water which isnt great for corrosion, even if it's aluminium
@@FzudemB
Maybe after offroading on mud
Clean it 🤔
Or remove it, problem solved
@@FzudemBif you're going off-roading then you must have the common sense to clean your underbody after off-roading, if not you're just a lazy off-roader who does not care about the vehicle.
On front suspension carrier, the two blue lines are paint torque stripes holding on what could be Bob-weights, used to cancel harmonic frequencies at higher speeds.
Interesting.
That’s a lot more probable than the bs they invented and spewed out off the top of their heads.
I have no idea about any of this but it's a joy hearing experts talk and being so passionate about it
Thanks for the video 👍
No problem 👍
@@MunroLive The unused high voltage plug on the battery pack is most likely for an inverter for an after market camper conversion or similar conversion, it`s unlikely to be for the additional battery hook up point as it`s look to small to handle the voltage/amp draw.
Auto Zone are giving you guys some competition with this one, it will be great to see two sets of professionals break down the vehicle!
The one autoline published seems more like a "lets tear this apart" ohh blue connectors vs Jordans describing the structure with references as to why and whats new.
@@ulwur lol!!!! he is doing a total teardown and will eventially talk about all the systems in the vehicle! you clearly didnt watched the video
Such a good crew. Top guns.
It is such a pleasure to listen to Jordan's explanations!
Autoline showed a competitor already half torn down a CT, its interesting how the drive by wire and the rear steer work.
I saw that, also the use on blue connectors. which you could see on the fans at the front in this video.
Munros teardown is better imo. Carl for the interior and Jordan for the chassis is unbeatable.
its nothing special! rear steering has been done by wire for very very long time! its just the same thing in the front except redundancy built in. in europe alot of trucks from mercedes, volvo, scania... comes with multiple steering axles sometimes 3 for much better turning capabilities in tight citie roads.
@@carholic-sz3qvAnd Steer-By-Wire has already existed. I don't get why people hate it. Rear-steer isn't anything new, but the CT can do up to 10 degrees (apprently) and I think that's just overkill.
Sandy is back hitting his stride. It feels like he got his mental & emotional health on track. Great to hear different voices describing all this engineering going into Cybertruck!
This front suspension is 90-97 Honda Accord Front. With a whacky Bending Spindle. Handled great.
Or the Civic, starting a few years earlier.
Thank you for spelling out the acronyms. Exciting to see manufacturing excellence and mechanics of it!
seen 3 videos where the upper contol arm 4:31 break so far.
either bolt x 2, stamped metal bends off body/frame?,
There has been no evidence of the upper control arm failing
I’ve seen 2 videos where it broke. Both cases of severe abuse: Diesel bro’s adding tracks on massive spacers and the Tesla team slamming full speed into a ditch in Baja. Which is the 3rd?
Failure points are intentionally designed. Maybe they want it to fail for crash safety?
@@bob15479 Suspension didn't fail in Baja and obviously putting massive tracks that stick out a huge amount puts an insane amount of load due to leverage.
@@boostav😂 i wonder if ppl were this rabid in their defense of the delorean😂
@@hoppingrabbit9849 No, because back then you didn't have ignorant fools propagating nonsense on social media they've heard from other mouth breathers.
I particularly like how Jorden interjects explanations regarding terminology for structural components. This presentation has re-invigorated my enthusiasm towards my future cyber truck ownership. You discussions were very interesting.Excellent production by the Munro team.
This is the only place to come for a detailed inspection of this truck . Now sandy is not completely biased to Tesla . As a engineer he is a bit of a fan boy but can give constructive criticism that Tesla does listen to .
It looks like you can’t put snow chains on the front wheels bc the upper control arm is so close and that big bolt sticking down?
The high voltage connector looks prime for the extended range pack add-on coming end of year.
Yes, the extra high voltage connector is for the extended range pack that will be placed in the bed. For extra towing range, etc.
No it's much too small to carry the current from the extended range pack.
Sandy’s explanation about the extra knuckle reducing the bolt depth makes the most sense to me. Or the tuneable aspect for a lighter car.
the open connector could be for the add on battery pack
Could be.
That’s what they said.
That open plug underneath is for the optional additional battery pack
I have been waiting years for this. I will probably never afford a cybertruck of my own, but I have been following every development.
I trust Sandy's team to give me the lowdown and nitty gritty details I want.
I see a lot of people saying the extra connectors on the pack are for the add on battery pack but they are much too small to handle the power from that pack. Connectors would need to be the size of the larger ones nearby to handle the amperage.
Update: Service manual says they are for inductive charging which is low power.
Sandy's videos are always the best. His presence cuts down on the crazy talk by the engineers.
lol!!!!!
I think the open high voltage connector at the back of the battery pack is to connect to the range extender battery in the bed. I think this is a good sign that the extender will really exist one day. I think the low voltage one at the rear might be for trailer electrical connections.
thx for making these
That extra connector is for inductive charging. (Wireless charging option that will come later.)
Looks like T-Sportline will get much business with the Aluminum Rear and Front Skid plates ( I mean not even plastic skid covers stock if I viewed the CT correctly?) I put Collant shelds and skid plates on KARR.
Unplugged , has parts Catalog /UPGRADES for Cybertruck.
These guys sure do know a lot, amazing to hear all this analysis
First and foremost, no you won't want a panel under your truck to snap on. A small water puddle would take it right off.
Do you think the rear, low voltage pigtail is for trailer wiring harness?
@@normt430That was my fault unless it's 42V not 12V.
@normt430 I think your conversation got onto my comment somehow but I had to watch the rest of the video on my lunch break. The pigtail has the blue markings so one would assume it's 48v.
The open HV connector is for the extension battery pack
I’ve seen a few videos and pictures of that upper A arm in the front suspension bending under extreme off roading. Is this a weak part in the design? This truck seems to be designed more for hi-way driving than off roading. Which is fine but it seems like it would be hard to modify the truck.
no issues for Unplugged , suspension UPGRADES.
the lower joint has the rubber gasket broken already?
I sure hope Tesla has gotten much better quality bushings than what they’ve been using on the 3/Y. The LCAs have been redesigned numerous times and yet still the bushings still fail as soon as 20,000 miles, but typically no more than at 60,000 miles. Seeing how this is supposedly set up to go off road and carry all the extra weight of the truck itself and potentially trailering, the bushings need to be vastly improved or they’re going to fail prematurely.
Also, the placement of those fans on the back of the radiator look like they would be easily damaged or filled with muddy water due to how low they’re positioned.
If the steer by wire system is in the front are you completely screwed if you hit something head on without totaling the vehicle?
NOPE , nothing else will Survive , except Cybertruck.
Great team!
TY
The rear of the batterypack area seems vulnerable. Backing up in goopy rocks lumber, something gets thrown up in there?
Presumably they removed the cover to show us?
TY!@@markjonzYeah, I figure, just, oddly, sometimes you gotta ask!
Like about that area that's going to get full of mud, or whatabout the headlights! That's gotta get jammed up with mud and snow! Then it'll ice over, too!
Or, why didn't they all put the plugin on the passenger side! Ever!
Putting them elsewhere, particularly driver side, makes sense in a Not 1st Principle way! Just following what was best practises from ICE!
Silly.
That'll be costly to correct and so they'll stall on it. Missing opportunities for goods & services for a large market.
I am figuring someone will work out that plugin need to be passenger side!
How long till Jordan is running the business? Fella walks the walk and talks the talk
Is he the guy who dont know why you cant weld through a plastic seal?
First video on the cybertruck. The extra high voltage connector under the truck. Wouldn't that just be for the optional long range battery pack that will go into the rear tray when they get around to shipping them out?
“Gigantor Member” is my new Munroism.
That's what she said 😂
Oooo.... Matron!
(If you know, you know)
Sounds like we have some new Munro Merchandise 🤭😎 #Tshirt
I came to the comments for this, and I was not disappointed!
It's a good band name. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the stage ....
Those lower control arm shields are purely to reduce areo drag.
@Munro Live these videos are always great but this one just hit it out of the park! For all the budding automotive engineers out there that love this stuff, are you guys able to organise a brief sit down with Tesla's Chief Suspension Engineer and film a bit of a run through? Mate, that would be gold.
We recently sat down with multiple Tesla engineers. Video is in the channel.
The extra HV connector is for the optional extended range battery in the bed.
No it's way undersized for carrying the current needed for the traction pack.
@@JRP3 I agree; but, The bed pack doesn't need to be a act as the traction pack. That extra HV connector is the same size as the charging connector. The bed is a range extender for the traction pack and only needs to charge the traction pack -- like a range extender.
@@fiddlerJohnThe wire cross section looks smaller than direct DC charging wires. Plus since it's intended for extension when towing, (i.e. heavy loads and power draw), and will probably be hooked in parallel with the main pack any voltage drop under load will draw a lot of current from the extension pack. Unless they are putting a charge controller between the two packs to limit current draw, that's a possibility.
@@JRP3 Look at 15:36 / 26:52 . The charging connector is the same size as the empty connector.
@@fiddlerJohnI don't think that's the charging connector. V4 superchargers are capable of 350kW, Cybertruck must be capable of at least that if not more, 350,000 W divided by 800V is 437.5A, those connectors are no where near large enough for that current.
Seriously impressive information from this video. The understanding and explanations of why things are done on are top notch from Munrow and associates. You guys really know this stuff better than most. Absolutely amazing watching you guys nerd out
What is going to happen when you drive one of these on snow and ice and salt-covered roads? Looks like lots of crevices and places where snow and ice and salt are going to accumulate, Is everything down there made of highly corrosion-resistant materials? What happens at the junctions between dissimilar metals? You might be able to hear the whole vehicle hissing due to corrosion.
The open connector is likely for the bed mounted battery add on for up to 500 miles range
Yeah!!! Let’s start a tear down !!!
What really surprises me on the aft end of the battery is all the critical components exposed in line with the rear drivetrain. When you’re off the main path, loose logs, sticks and rocks tend to drive upwards when the weight of the tires come into contact.
Those steering knuckles remind me of the Can-Am Maverick R's knuckles that everyone hates. Will be limited on how large diameter of tire you can put on the cybertruck with the stock knuckles.
Actually it is clearance in the wheel opening. The aftermarket people who do the wrapping, interiors, etc have been working on wheel packages larger and smaller. I think they used spacers to get around the knuckle.
@@danharold3087 spacers really!!! is that a joke!!!
15:00 the open connector is for the Range Extender (installed by the Service Center, not a user accessory) occupies 30% of the bed, allegedly compatible with other bed accessories (e.g. Basecamp tent) adds 110-140 miles' range, and costs an estimated $16,000 … : )
I've seen air ducts on suspension in mercedes and porshe for brake cooling
Not quite as needed on a Tesla with regen braking.
@@PaleBlueDotCitizen bullshit!!!! the porsche and mercedes ones are for actual racing cars this thing tesla is not.
1:14 this is an aero component to decrease wind drag and help the air flow across the bottom more smoothly.
I what to see the battery teardown. Is the truck full? If so, how terrible is the density that they couldn't meet battery day specs? It's crazy they couldn't get 500 miles without adding an auxiliary pack.
Also, can they double stack the pack?
@@kyleJ82 They could (they have the space and could then take off these 100 mm (4 inches) from the seat brackets). This would add enormous weight however, about 500-550 kg: about 1332* 355 g = 472 kg for the 4680 cells, and some more for busbars, cooling plate, fasteners and stuff. It would reduce payload by the same amount (from 1135 kg to only about 600 kg) or they would need to change all the other stuff to make up for that extra weight.
No doubt it would create more problems and more engineering. I'm just thinking that maybe they go that route in the future. The auxiliary pack seems really stupid, as you lose cargo space and because of weight and HV-stuff, you can't simply use it when needed.
They could have. They chose not to.
@@MooseOnEarth No it's not possible, you'd have your knees in your throat if you do.
Open battery connector is for the extended range pack that drops into the truck bed. It will probably just tie in directly to the main pack to increase overall capacity.
The weight of the truck will go through tires quite often.
With the bolt coming down from the front upper control arm’s ball joint, what happens when you put chains on the tire? Will the chains snag on that bolt?
So cool..learning so much!
Always impressed with safety attitude demonstrated at Monro.
I will never be able to afford one but I love the cyber truck...this is fascinating
How do you know the future bro?
They will be more affordable in the future.
im old and on SS
@@lenuvian
Let the tech bros & influencers buy it at 120 K $ now.
It will be at 60 K $ in a few years, maybe even in refreshed/upgraded versions.
Just look at the X & S prices going down those last years.
We're in truck country and a lot of people are keeping their old ice trucks because new ones are just too expensive period.
Did you remove some shields. Those coolant and power connectors seems pretty exposed, especially for an off road vehicle.
Yes, they did.
Munro , removed ALL the Closeout/AERO shields, AIR Diffuser.
Ok, I mention it because of this video where Tesla want's to replace a model 3 battery because the coolant plastic fitting has broken off: th-cam.com/video/n8-OkfCcRAo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gbj_8nHuQuN3jQHY&t=69
Based on this video I would definitely prefer a coolant connector that is easy to repair. In general plastic parts gets hard and brittle after a few years which not very environmentally friendly. A good exampel is a 10 year old BMW engine compartments where there is a lot of brittle parts that can not be disconnected.
Another example is the hood of this John Deere tractor: th-cam.com/video/pYbmGZeFMd4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Jki1gYAC6fQWTTK0&t=107
Just shitty design that is just unacceptable if you give a damn about repair-ability and the environment.
Is that a new hoist? First time I see Kevin *NOT* duck while under a vehicle! ;-)>
It is!
Those "Mud collectors" are Skid Plates under each lower wishbone, additional add on protection
intended to preserve the unscathed factory new integrity of aluminum. There could of been a nice
cut out/circular drain point at the "U" of the wishbone. Current design , they provide an excellent place to smuggle anything small to destination of your choice 8>)
IIRC, the extra harness ends are for future use for accessories (Tesla and 3rd party), that can be controlled via switching in the main UI display. Winches, offroad lights, etc.
extra connectors is for extend batteries/ low voltage connector are for the light bars
15:40 The extra connector is for the range extender battery that sits in the box of the truck. I believe that Tesla originally wanted a 200 Kwh battery in this truck but the slow ramp of the 4680 meant they had to go smaller battery and impliment a range extender pack.
Yes but the reason for the small pack is weight and cost
Out of Spec just range tested the CT against the 200KWh silverado WT4. Battery weights alsost twice as much but the added weight only got them tjo the low 400s miles while the CT did 310, more than Tesla listed. And this was at 70 mph. Time for people to put a cork in it about the battery in this truck. If you want the 200KWh buy the silverado.
I am interested in finding out what the repair cost would be for a low speed rear end collision. My guess is those cast part are hugely beneficial till X and then very expensive to replace. It is true of all vehicles that at a certain point enough damage gets done that the vehicle gets written off but is there a big difference here?
Great show, the laymen’s terms and the easily understandable explanations is what gives this show a AAA rating. Sandy’s past related experiences with the added engineering comments is great !
Keep up the good work. Top ten on my list.
What a great episode! Really gained a sense of design and engineering decisions applied to an area of the vehicle that's normally unexplored territory for us laypersons, exactly why I subscribe. Thanks and all the best.
The 3 bolts on that airfoil underneath the suspension is the old solid way of attaching things. Snap on would not work in this area. It would rattle and and off. 😎😎😎
Awesome video) very informative)
Glad you liked it