On Hate Speech Modi is Complicit By His Silence; It's His Duty To Speak Up- Naseeruddin Shah
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In a 34-minute interview to Karan Thapar for The Wire, Naseeruddin Shah spoke about a range of issues that have been in the news recently. They include the Information and Broadcasting Minister, Anurag Thakur’s boast that “India has everything that any developed nation in the world has”, Foreign Minister Jaishankar’s criticism that the West “has a bad habit of commenting on others … if (they) keep doing this other people will also start commenting and they will not like it when it happens” as well as the Prime Minister’s claim, made most recently at President Biden’s Summit of Democracies, that India is “the mother of democracy”.
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"A True Patriot Must Always Be Ready To Defend His Country Against Its Own Government"
~Edward Abbey.
But true patriotism is measured by how straight you can stand for the national anthem.
@@sharathnb ur comment shows ur naivety
@@anishbanerjee5761 dude just shows u are immatured to understand sarcasm.. Not for u buddy, I thought you would understand jokes.. Anyways good day
@@sharathnb I think you graduated in entire political science 😅😅
@@anishbanerjee5761 that's called brutal sarcasm arising from the mental agony one has to go through.
Excellent interview. Thanks Karan for bringing wonderful people to your interview. Very thoughtful dissection.
I beg to disagree:
Mr Karan Thapar comes out
as annoyingly patronising,
irritatingly interrupting,
poisonously polarised,
deceptively disingenuous,
converting important issues
into imbalanced mudslinging:
A shame, a blemish
on the reputation of objective journalism.
*
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
@@swamyvigyananand4779 haan pata hai bhai main khud ek muslim family se ek atheist hoon, par ek baat bataao kya sabhi log religions ko puri tarah se follow karte hain?agar follow karte toh aaj meri family Islam ke naam par bomb phodne mein hoti aur tumhari family dharm ki raksha ke naam par kayi logon ki jaan le rahi hoti, religions se nafrat karo kyunki religions kharaab hi hote hain magar use maanne wale se nahin, kyunki koi apni jagah sukoon se jeete rehta hai aur woh dange fasaad ka shikaar banjaata hai, chaahe hindu ho ya muslim, kisi aur ki sazaa kisi aur milti hai just because woh same community se hai,soch kar dekhna bura laga toh sorry🙏✌️.
@@roymiller4444 भाई तुम ने हिंदू धर्म को समझ नहीं है हिंदुओ में धर्म और अधर्म की परिभाषा है जिसमे धर्म का अर्थ होता है अहिंसा परमो धर्म यानि की शांति ही सबसे बड़ा धर्म है धर्म का अर्थ कर्तव्य सच्चाई ईमानदारी दयालुता न्याय त्याग होता है न की कोई पूजा करने तरीके को धर्म कहते है वैसे पूजा करने के तरीके को हमारे धर्म में पंथ संप्रदाय कहते है जैसे वैष्णव संप्रदाय और स्मार्त और नाथ पंथ है सभी के पूछा पाठ के अलग अलग तरीका होता है पर धर्म अर्थ सभी का एक ही होता है वह कर्तव्य सच्चाई ईमानदारी दयालुता न्याय मानवता होता है सभी जीवो की रक्षा की बात होती है
@@educationlifebase2873 Bhai Bura mat maanna but mujhe Hindi padhte mein thodi si pareshaani Hoti hai kya tum Zara isey English mein likh sakte ho sorry.
Mr Thapar loves interviewing Mr Modi's bashers. He puts words in their mouth.
We respect the views n emotions of Naseeruddin Shah/ have high regard 👍🏼🙏🏼💯🇮🇳
Absolutely.
I think people who are commenting here should farm a group and spread this kind of views to more peoples because it's very clear that most of us atleast know what we need to save in our next generation and what we need to increase to save our society/ country. We all believe atleast to respect others thought process and that is what getting reduce day by day in our society . Respects others views, religion, culture , living. Live and let others live their life. Make our law take care of who is doing wrong but not the group of people by their own...love the interview and their thoughts..
NS has huge balls....he is fearless. May God give him more strength and protection to him and his family.
only fearless..in interviews...ghar ke andar...lol
@@stallionspirit1576so male members in yr family r spineless..
He is an ass.. his silence on various things that Quran preaches is total complicity and open jihad
Quran is a book full of hate speech.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah"(Quran 8:12)
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
@@stallionspirit1576 aama yaar, yeh halath sab ki hai!
Kaun hai woh jaahnbaaz, joh apni biwi se nahi dartha?!
Mr. Shah is absolutely rt. that nowadays criticism of govt. Is considered as the criticism of PM.
Critisism of PM is not criticism of country.
Absolutely right 👍
Nobody is sending you in jail for criticising pm . You are still very much enjoying your freedom . Stop lies
@@TheSachinchauhan9 But how many have been sent to... Do u hv any sense of justice or injustice. U shameless and selfish stooge of BJP Or Rss
Not pm but nation u make writing mistake bro bjp considered criticism direct insult of nation
Meet of real Indian Intellectuals. Thanks Karan. I am not sure your interviews reach the desired quality audiences in India. Thanks Mr. Shah. Thanks Karan
I am christian but i stand with indias Hindus. Becuase hindus are under privileged in pakistan and bangladesh. In pakistan non muslim cannot be PM... non muslims not allowed to go to some major and main universities. Non muslims dont have equal rights in pakistan as the muslims have. Christians are killed everyday in muslim majority countries like Egypt... african muslim countries... syria... afghanistan... etc...
Pakistan hindus want to come to india but indian muslims dont want to go to pak- imagine why....
Wake up hindus and christians.
Yaar kya mast English bolte he Karan sir .. adha sir k upar se chala jata he ... Google karna padta he .. what he's trying to say ....Shashi tharoor ke baad yehi mujhe mast Lage... Pura interview 100% English hota he ... Bich bich main Hindi bola to maja aaiga ... Because 60-70% Indian don't understand this high level vocab including me ..... But loved to leasing....
Mast Pani pilaya tha..
Hamari dosti bani rahe ❤
Kabhi aao kashmir rehne
Sar-tan-se-juda is so much love love love.
@@swapniltambe1 हमारे देश में पॉलिटिक्स के वजह्से शिक्षा इतना करब हुआ है. अगर हमारे देश वासियों 3 भाषा में बोलताथा थो क्या नुकसान है. दक्षिण भारत में हिन्दी सीखने के लिए मौका नहीं. आज पूरे भारत में अंग्रेजी बहुत कुछ लोग जानता है. ये बदलना चाहिए
No, Mr.Shah, this type of hatred was never latent in our society. I am 70 year old, I have never felt this. I didn't ever even feel that I am born into a certain family having a particular religion. I am heart broken these days.😢
THE HATE FACTOR WAS EXPESSED IN A SUTTLE WAY AND ALSO IN A TWO FACED WAY .
Yeah, at least in our families there was no hatred talk against any community whatsoever, I feel lucky
@@beulahlad3576 India is beyond your families and city. It has over 50 nations, cultures and languages and a population of 1.4 billion people.
There are many families on either side where no talk of hatred found any mention and we do have such families even today. That said there was and is a huge population which had this latent prejudice but they themselves were never aware of it. It needed someone as charismatic as Moody to come and massage that dormant prejudice to bring it to the fore and thats what happened. He is once in a lifetime kind of leader. There will be cheap knockoffs of him after he's gone but those won't survive.
@@saq3329 latent prejudice naah just prejudice was always there Modi was able to channel it true just saying after Modi it’s not gonna be over it’s just gonna go downhill from here till something radical happens ( it took the toll and defeat of Second World War for fascism in Italy to end and Nazism in Germany to end and they both didn’t have the cocktail of strong religion on that)on the other hand places like Iran, Afghanistan are example of somewhat secular like india is completely overhauled into religious nations. ✌🏽
It is not tacit support or complicity, It is wilful abetment, and active collusion.
How modi speak behalf of molvi and molana ?
It's your duty nasruddin ji speak again hate speech of molvi and and sar tan se juda .
How modi stand against it ? If modi stand against it you call them anti muslim.
So need to reform within.
That "wink, wink, nudge" is more overt on occasion; remember "Didi, oh didi"?
@@shortinformation6073 mulle Kate jayenge Ram Ram chillayenge ye slogan dj pe masjid ke samne bajta hai kuch Parkash dalenge kya mahashay
who killed ten thousand Sikhs in New Delhi 1984.
@@rasingh3878Singh It was the same elements who branded the farmer's movement as one infiltrated by Khalistanis.
I am a Hindu Brahmin and I want to thank Naseer Sahab for his honesty and fearless factual analysis of the govt, of Indians in general, of Hindutva zealots, and equally of Muslims who fall for the divisive tricks of the current political atmosphere. I would also like to say that many of us know the big role he has played in shaping our popular culture in the past several decades since his entry into public life. It is a delight to watch people like him and Akhtar Sahab talk about religion, society, politics and India. We need more genuine philosophers and thinkers like them in public life.
The current atmosphere forces me to mention my religion and his philosophy, whereas before 2014 I would say I am a software engineer and he is a greatly skilled actor and a man of great culture. I want that back, where we don't talk about Hindu Muslim but about bijli, sadak, paani, shiksha, swasthya, and gareebi hatana.
I am really happy to see that there are still some INDIANS left in our society. Most of them have started identifying them with a particular religious group claiming them to be hindus, muslims, sikhs, christians, etc but few identify them as INDIANS. I being a muslim grew up with all my friends being non muslims, where we hardly cared about who is from which religion. We were just a bunch of kids cherishing our childhood together. We used to celebrate diwali with the same enthusiasm as eid, christmas with the same as holi. I really miss those days when we were human beings. I really feel sorry for people who spend their whole life living with hate not realising that life so short that we will perish from this globe without realising that our time has ended. I ask the people of dharm that what is dharm? Is killing innocent individuals in the name of religion is dharm? Is that what makes you happy is your dharm?
I can literally tell you that the majority portion of each religion overlaps with the other and what we actually differ is in the concept of god. Few believe that god takes forms and others don't but the good deeds are more or less common and people hardly care about them because all they want is to fight and satisfy their anger in the name of religion.
What do you mean by hindutva zealots !?
@@rohanmahaldar4935 friend, while its true that bajpa has brought a bad name to hindus all arpund the globe, a majority of us remain to be true patriotic Indians, just that some got brainwashed into thinking hindu kharte mein and the others sadly bought the story of 'sabka saath sabka vikaas'.
Colonised mind 😂😂
@@rohanmahaldar4935 Only Hindus say that. Try arguing with a christian or muslim. It is their way or you are an infidel. This romantic view does not hold in real life. I am not saying we should not love other religions but dont fall into the trap by Naseeruddin who is a closet islamist. Have you ever seen him speak when a non muslim is killed or when there is killing of Indian soldiers in Kashmir.
NS simply spoke my mind (and many more I am sure). Lack of consideration which dramatically changes when the same people travel abroad where they will hold doors for others, and the moment they are back here, such considerations magically vanish 😔
I think it also depends on the class of people. Right education and class , although doesn't guarantee and can't be generalized, should not be underestimated and I think it is disregarded by both right and left wings for different reasons. When that segment came, I was thinking about my own incidents. I worked at Amazon in India and I'm now in Germany. In India, as well, some groups of people (in fact, most of my group) used to be considerate in opening doors or keeping them open, just the same as in Germany by similar people (not the same) although their consideration might differ in other aspects but that's a different topic. Lol.
Abhigyan… your comment has provoked me to throw my two pence of opinion on this matter, since I am also an NRI.
I, whenever back home, begin by opening doors for others and stopping my car at zebra crossings, etc …. But then my system quickly realizes that if I keep on going this way then I will get nothing done and reach no where!
But why is our environment such that everybody is a little bit more rude than is actually required ?
I don’t know! But someone recently gave an interesting answer …. That we have been have-nots for so long that we have become a little more selfish than usual!
This kind of interviews used to be on Main stream Media before 2014. Let that sink in 🙏
datz coz...these kinda interviews were liked by gandhi chamcha gang..lol
@@stallionspirit1576 coward Andabhakt, don't you have a name... Tumhare extremist parents tumhe naam rakha hai naa??
Inke haath mein AK-47 dedo... Out and out Hindu version of Osama bin laden..
@@stallionspirit1576 अनपढ़ आदमी भाग
@@stallionspirit1576aap ko rs 2 mile?
Well said 👍
Karan I just loved this interview this man is just fabulous when you interview him , Naseruddin Shah is so articulate, refined, educated, humble and rooted to the ground and knows exactly what he wants to convey 👌👍👏🙏💐💝🇮🇳
Frank and honest replies to forthright questions. Eye-opening interview and fearless journalism. We Indians deserve the governments we elect. We need to speak through the ballot box, and hope we can do that in 2024
I beg to disagree:
Mr Karan Thapar comes out
as annoyingly patronising,
irritatingly interrupting,
poisonously polarised,
deceptively disingenuous,
converting important issues
into imbalanced mudslinging:
A shame, a blemish
on the reputation of objective journalism.
*
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see main comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
I have grown in a Muslim family and in my family never ever a single word of hate stories were being told regarding non-Muslims. Never it happened. And in future when I get my children, I am not going to entertain bad things.
In fact, just yesterday (the day of eid), my father went all way to a hospital around 150km away from my home to see his long time friend who’s a Hindu. He had an operation and I wish his speedy recovery. Due to eid there were less number of vehicles, still he paid double fare to see his friend. My father chose to go there rather than visiting our relatives on the day of eid.
Your father is a rare diamond among Muslims.. There are not too many Muslims like him.. It is like searching a pin in a hay stack.
@@latajhaveri6707 Its not rare in muslims its rare to you cause you haven't seen.
@@zubiyaaly544 same. I used to believe in same too. I was told Muslims are so hygienic. as I grown up I get to know that for Muslims cleanliness is the half of their faith. every Friday they need to shave their body hair, trim nails, etc. moreover they clean themselves 5 times a day. I became Muslim when I came to know how beautiful it is actually. the only sad thing is, In India, cultural muslim is at high level rather than actual Islam.
*_People who want an Islamic state must leave India and go to Iran, who want Hindu rashtra must go to newly-founded Kailasa country...India is a secular country, and we want to live with harmony and peace, India belongs to Buddha, Gandhi, Lord Rama, Ambedkar and Kabir not extremists.🙏_*
great comment 💯%%%
Thanks for offering such good options. Please send me Kailasa citizenship. Also tell me where this utopia is. I have started packing my bags.
Also belongs to my hero jawaharlal nehru
Good formula for Better India
@@kuldipguleria2615 *_You don't know about Kailasa, the country founded by Nithyanada, cuz nowadays ANDHBHAKTS are talking highly of Kailasa country, and you know nothing about it, what kind of Andhbhakt are you?.😂_*
Narendra Modi isn't just complicit but has himself used 'Hate' words and speech to grow up in Gujarat Politics and become an unchallenged entity in the BJP! Please recall, 'Tum Panch and Tumhare Pachis'; the use of Dogwhistles was far too common and continued even after his move to Delhi, 'Kabristan-Shamshan' and people can be recognised by the gear.
His Gujarat innings of use of hate speeches in Gujarat and continued use in the form of Dogwhistles is an impetus to the lesser leaders of the BJP. The promotion of Anurag Thakur is also an encouragement for others; the others would do so to advance in the BJP.
If you belong to the army ,you must speak maj gaurav Arya . Don't forget "maut ke saudagar "speech of your soniaji and lost election .modi merely responded .
Appreciate your courage, conviction n clarity of thoughts.
@@jagdishramanathan2091 Maj Gaurav is working for his own interest.
aaa gaye....gandhi parivaar ke chamche...lol
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Great actor,
Great citizen,
Real “56 inch” human.
Nasurddin shah is great actor also not only that he is real Indian too,and deserves honour and respect by all different communities in India.
When actors like kher and akshay are bending over at the waist.....being yes men to the supreme leader and his tyranny......naseer actually has the guts to say out loud what he feels is right and usually hits the nail on the head with his statements and analysis. God bless you with more health and strength dear sir. ❤
I totally agree with Mr Naseeruddin Shah. I was also a target of bully and attack just because of my religion in class 7 to 10 when I studied in a Brahmin administered High School in late 70,'s in Madras city, yes I repeat very much in Madras city where you don't see much communal violence or hatred. I faced enormous challenges both from my Brahmin teachers and some classmates alike. They not only taunted and bullied me on a daily basis but also used to attack me physically as I was the only Muslim pupil in the whole of that high school until I left after year 10. I can still remember not only those Brahmin teachers names who used to hit, slap and made me to stand on my knees outside the class in the scorching summer heat with part of my knees buried under rough sand. As if this was not enough, I was followed and chased by a few classmates outside the school cursing and abusing me with all sorts of dirty language in Tamil until I boarded the public bus to home. All this happened to me just because of my name which I can't forget until my life although I left India More than 33 years ago. When it can happen in Madras city in 1970's where there was no presence of RSS or BJP, or Bajrang Dal, VHP, or any other violent Hindu organisations at the time, I can't even imagine what a Muslim might be going through all over North and Western Indian States in today's political atmosphere.
Man, I can feel the scares...May God bless you dear. Violence is in us... religion just gives us the opportunity to bring it out. We need to be better, hope God helps us all.
Our forefathers were badly treated by higher caste hindus and we were lucky that we Muslims were the majority in our district and area and not many Brahmins lived there. During British rule, they were in power and own money and were educated. after 1947 those racist hindus left before the portion fearing their lives, because of their hatred towards the Muslims and how they treated Muslims. Just like now in several states of India. Muslims of West Bengal and Kerala are not suffering much, but in West Bengal, Muslims rarely hold any govt jobs and traditionally it went to Hindu upper castes, fear of life is much less because one-fourth of the pop are Muslims in West Bengal.
I have not such experience in my whole life because I am from Kerala.
Love the neighbours. I am not a Hindu nor Muslim. We are human beings.
Tum hindu mat bano lekin wo muslim hi rahenge kabhi muslims se secularism ke bare mein baat karke dekho
bro iam from kashmir i also agreee with u
@@Sidhakatha19 Agree, they expect alot from us but the question is will those muslims ever change for us? Will they keep national integrity before religion? I respect all the religions equally but will they ever respect me from heart for being a Hindu? The answer is no because their religion is made in such a way that they hate those who pray to god in a manner that is different than it is prescribed in their holy book. This muslim isloatIon will exist till the end of this mankind we have to live with the hate, sadly.
@@sasa_05 can you show me the religious texts and educate me about the point that Quran says to hate non-Muslims with context.
Naseeruddin Shah is on point ❤
Love you Wire team ❤
Good interview - The problem with India currently is that political leaders see themselves as "rulers" rather than public servants in a democracy. This is perhaps because India always had many many rulers and kingdoms who were constantly at odds with each other and have waged many battles. Accountability when in power is what is lacking terribly in India.
I have been witnessing since my childhood ( I am 80 years of age) such bad narratives for Gandhi, Nehru and Muslims by the people associated with THAT so called Mahan Organisation. The same narrative is resounding in today’s India
Everyone is high on power money and egos sir. Instead of saying to work hard and struggle, they are asked to come join political parties and create ruckus and waste their life
Yess because it's true
Respect is the only word ..I must say for Naseer Saab .. love from USA
👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏼🇮🇳😍
A man with the spine who knows how to call a spade ♠️ a spade ♠️
Modi has taken us so back in terms of our thought process that even we ppl are discussing about the past rather than present situation or the upcoming future. That's really worrisome
I totally agree with you and just folding my hand why the people did not understand if people will not understand now it will be too late.
What past?
Brother I'm from the North East India
1.And still the NCERT curriculum and we don't even have a single history chapter of North East from 6-12 class
And I'm learning it
Do u think this is fair?
2. Regarding Indian civilization we had many kingdoms of glory like Vijaynagar, chola , Pandya, cheras, Marathas. And North Indian kingdoms too
Is there any chapter about Chatrapati sivaji Maharaj in the NCERT curriculum?
Our medieval history only talks about Mughal and there was not a single word "INVASION" in the history and we know what's the reality and their deeds.
We know the story of what Mughals did to Sambhaji , Teg bahadur and Sikh gurus
But not a single mention
They're portrayed as if they're the best. Do u think a Sikh Punjabi and Marathi person would love to read that kind of history
And ask today's student the name of Mughal emperor
They'll quickly answer it
But ask any 3 kings from Gupta dynasty
They won't even know it. Because it's out of syllabus
Do u think this is fair way learning history?
We already were the richest civilization in our past even before Mughals
During Maurya, Vijaynagar, Gupta's
And these historians like Romila Thapar is white washing our history
3. Regarding Indian independence movement
We only learn about Gandhi
But the one who contributed in this movement was Subash Chandra Bose and his INA Armys
And Bhagat Singh.
Not a proper mention of them
Modi is just reclaiming our lost history from this leftist Nehru historians.
And our history has always been distorted since independence
So stop the BS
@@drdany3891 you're really learning Dr...great job...pls continue
Quran is a book full of hate speech.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah"(Quran 8:12)
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
I am a Punjabi hindu & during my school & college days the principal of Injuman Ismail school near Crawford market in Bombay shri Razaq & family used to stay in the building opposite to our house & we were very friendly with the family & although no one from their family known to us stays in India now, I am still in touch with their daughters who were friends of my elder sisters & now stay in London & Canada although with time I have lost all my 3 elder sisters..
brother what you said actually kind of explains the current situation of society. Your experience is individualistic level and basically how a healthy society functions i.e., any criticism is directed towards individual level/entity on the basis of treatment/response received but, on contrary people associate this with a group caste/religion/party a clear case of prejudice!
Thanks. I hope one day Karan will be a Nobel Laureate, he certainly deserves it.
Excellent episode........simple straightforward and clear views of Shah.
Much of the hatred stems from sheer ignorance ! Folks believe there are just 3 religions in our country !
Wonderful points raised in this debate !❤🎉😊
Yeah right! You will not address the root but blame everyone else.
@@ragsyboy1463mulla liberals always blame others but never their own book
Yes Maureen. Bjp feeds their supporters on religious hatred taking public attention away from real problems.
Yeah and those people who wants india as a Hindu rashtra means India is a country of Hindus I mean why look at the country Israel a country of Jews there current situation and when it comes to equality then why we are naming the places with the people's fav things mostly with religion names and sorry for my English mistake if anything is I wrote wrong 🙏 by the way I belongs to tribal community from jharkhand. I said it because someone might be Target me that I am a Muslim or something else which is hated by some people. well I am a non religious person and I hope there is also a column for non religious or atheist people too like some other developed or developing countries have I mean atleast when it comes to equality again I really want a people like Ambedkar budh Raja Ram Mohan Roy Bhagat Singh CV Raman etc etc there so many amazing people are from India and they not alive that's why our country is going in very bad direction
I loved this interview and views of Nasir ji , There should be love and harmony among all human beings,and for that to happen there should be education,hence education should be made compulsory by law for all asap in India and the rest of the undeveloped world
I loved Naseeruddin Shah's acting & now it's great to get a taste of his intellectual mind. The video was very interesting & informative, indeed!! After majoring in Political Science from India, and having lived in the US most of my life, I take a keen interest in democracy & government, but politics always bored me ..... until recently!! All that I learned to be civil & democratic is being challenged in so much of the world. Images of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine are disturbing, the war in Ukraine distressing, but witnessing what's happening right here, in the US when Trump was leading & the destruction (not to mention the disgrace) he managed to cause in a four year term, got me totally interested, involved & now voicing my concerns. I think of myself as a Human Rights Advocate, & a "passive" political activist too. I consider USA to be my FatherLand, and when I look upon my MotherLand (India - which I proudly referred to as Hindustan, but now hesitate to do so), I see the same nonsense happening on a larger scale there. {The divide & rule, the religious extremism, the discrimination, the double stands, the hypocrisy & the blatant disregard for decency, civility & justice for all}. We did manage to "Dump Trump" here, now it's time to "Surrender Nirendra" there!? First (slowly but surely) the Modi Worship needs to subside, so that campaigning can be effective. He needs to be voted out & replaced by someone who will UNIFY, not defy & extremify, a nation that's heading south (as in going down) God Help Us, Ahmain, Ahmeen, Amen!!
The reality is that 80 crores people are dependent on free ration in India.
GHI 107 / 121... ..PEOPLE love to dismiss it.
Ashamed to be called a Hindu these days .. courtesy rss bjp and andh bhakts😢
Rekha Kumar, that's a fact ...I agree...but important thing is this is a welfare scheme and govt has all the rights to provide for the vulnerable....you see even in usa , they have got social schemes for millions of people...so to target the govt in this way is not appropriate...if you are giving this negative statistics, then you should have given the positive stats as well...that is india has become 5th largest economy...it was 11th few years back..
@@tinklingcrystals6489 Come to Islam the true and ultimate Religion...Hinduism is a fake religion made by people...Ram and Krishna never existed
To me Naseerudin looked Exactly like Albert Einstein! Exactly!
😂
Quran is a book full of hate speech.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah"(Quran 8:12)
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
Hahaha 😃😃
I think he has done a stage play where he did the role of Einstein
I am Hindu but I wonder why people are so much full of hatred for whole Muslim community. I had many Muslim friends no one ever show hatred rather they were always coming to meet me and served me shirkhurma which was very tasty every time I tasted……very friendly
I come to know about this only after I came to north India , how much the Muslims are hated . I still wonder and ask myself why ?? I have travelled to so many parts of India . Born and brought up in a remote village in the northeast , spent years in south India studying and working never have i came across this kind of hatred down there . By faith I’m Christian my religion , my parents never teach me to hate Hindu or Muslim or others’ faith .
Huge respect straight and on point, Aaj Tak debate shows like Dangal and Halla bol are not even one percent of this kind of content 👍
Its unfortunate, we are going through such an era.....Hope and pray soon India will bounce back to normalicey with peace and unity 🙏🙏🙏
Shaa Saab talks with fact and dignity🙏🙏🙏
Yeah 👍🏼💯😍🇮🇳
Conversions stopped?
Hindus 1st time feeling pride and roaring like never before india 🇮🇳 now in spot light of world
Does it hurts u that why majority r happy?
The Day we stop being Politically correct...and expose the Truth ..where this HATE theory started ..Communalism started 1400 yes ago in Saudi arabia..before that ALL HUMANS WERE SECULAR ..CHECK
So he does.
But Mr Shah saab is also a hypocrite
like most educated peaceful Muslims!
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Please check this out:
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
@@user-zd1rx3xv4e Being a Hindu, we were also proud and roaring. Maybe you were timid all your life. We don't need any government to make us feel strong. We were always invincible. Shivaji Maharaj never discriminated among his subjects. Thats true Hinduism.
The darkness and hatred they have created will take a long time to get rid of...
When darkness is at its peak, consider the night to get over soon. Cheer up!
Mr. Nasseruddin Shah has exposed this fascist government's all illogical claims very rightfully. Thus we really need well-educated and versatile people in politics. My sincere good wishes to my favourite actor.🙏
NS is not only a fine actor but a real Indian,lots of regards👍
It was really rewarding to listen to my icon. I remember my JNU days when we would fill the common room of our hostels to watch Mirza Ghalib. The great actor is dead right. Hate against Muslims would increase as we move toward 2024 that must be stopped!
Truth should be revered and not concealed. Naseeruddin Shah is the pioneer of this statement.
In my opinion, every Indian citizen should support such honest channels and spread them among others.
Soo wonderful. So much love, warmest regards and deepest respect. So true and well said! Most beautiful interview. 👍😊💛🙏🙌🙏👏👏
Totally agree on what Shri. Naseerudin Sir have said 🙏🙏
How modi speak behalf of molvi and molana ?
It's your duty nasruddin ji speak again hate speech of molvi and and sar tan se juda .
How modi stand against it ? If modi stand against it you call them anti muslim.
So need to reform within.
@@shortinformation6073 did you understand what you just said? 😂
Get your facts right before you come and make a fool of yourself.
Jai Hind
@@shortinformation6073yes gomuthra nagpur half knickers
Yes
Not really
India need honest journalists like you
India is my country and all Indians are my brothers and sisters. I love my country and I am proud of its rich and varied heritage. I shall always strive to be worthy of it. I shall give respect to my parents, teachers and elders and treat everyone with courtesy. To my country and all my people, I pledge my devotion. In their well-being & prosperity alone lies my happiness. Jai Hind!!
I grew up as this pledge being the first and foremost aspect of my upbringing. How many of our children are even aware of our pledge?
Respects but will your children continue your trend... I don't blame your children I blame yellow journalists like Karan thappar.. They have made a lot of money doing propaganda for enemies of India.
@@latajhaveri6707 Do you abide by this pledge? Will your children continue if you do?
If u believe Karan is spreading propaganda, then u already fell prey for the propanganda.
@@latajhaveri6707 your comment speaks volumes about the prejudce already in your heart.
Im a Pakistani from Karachi i want to say that k aap jaisa qabil aur learned sahafi pooray Pakistan may ek bhi nahi hai i salute you from the bottom of my heart.😍😘😍
Hope one day hostilities between us are removed and we could move ahead like the European countries have. Some of them share borders that run though public places, which is so encouraging to that people are willing to let go off their past issues, and move forward towards a bright future.
I completely agree with Naseeruddin Shah Sahib. He truly represents the Idea of India. Thanks Karan Thapar ji for organising this wonderful discussion. 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Hate speech has been a similar issue in Pakistan .. our parents very unconsciously seeped it into us.. with social media, it shows prominently. Same problem, secularism in Pakistan is the remotest of remote dreams....hatred takes various shapes and forms.. sigh
We know you are a Indian hindutva sanghi😅.We aren't fools to believe this comment is from Pakistani 😮.
Naseeruddin certainly didnt feel this fear when lakhs of jehadis came out of no where suddenly after nupur sharma chanting "behead nupur"
nor did naseeruddin feel this fear when thousands of rabi jehadis perpetrated bangalore riots and burned down a police station and damaged public property
certainly didnt feel prejudice when naseerudding didnt speak about beheading of kanhaiya lal or targetted killing of 20 plus hindus or shooting of indore pharma agent after nupur episode?
the fact that naseeruddin spoke of hate speech but not violent criminal jehadi acts proves once again muslims are hypocrites with no value assigned to non muslims
@@indipacifician3693 zainabin is true👍
What's happening in Pakistan are inevitable. The problem escalated after. The *APOSTASY AND BLASPHEMY LAW* are enacted in the constitution of Pakistan. Pakistan will never ever recover. People are forced to love islam out of fear by these two law of Islam.
Zainab can you do something about it 🤔
Mam, the problems are with the aliens acting with an agenda to deliver a people to their cultures.
My parents never said bad about other religions and now I'm teaching the same to my kids giving respect to all religions...they can delete Mughal chapter from the curriculum but cannot eradicate all the history rooted in the form of Taj, lalquila, qutub minar etc...
Do you know the true history of Qutab Minar? Do you know it was made over an existing structure which is non islamic? I am pretty sure that part is not be taught in ncert.
Its scary how hindu womens respect mughals who offers hindu womens nothing but pain and torture in past but educated hindu women's respect mughal history
Excellent even my parents didn't teach me to hate any religion or caste
NS is a learned man. A middle class thought of India. Speaks his mind. Right is right wrong is wrong no grey areas man. NS brother served as a Lt Gen in the Indian Army. I liked when NS said he has already been to Pakistan in 1971.
Naseeruddin is a fearlessly outspoken gentleman. Our deepest respects to Naseeruddin Shah.
Fortunately that animosity between Hindus and Muslims was not in my school days 1945 to 1955 in Kerala. We were tolerant towards Muslims in those days and even now. We respect each other's faith. We also had no discrimination towards other casts, though some brahmins felt they were the preveledged people bu their birth to the Brahmin community.
I have noticed that my Muslim brethren started distancing themselves after the Godra riots and the mass massacre of Muslims.. obviously anybody would be angered.. this is why RSS was banned by our great freedom fighter leaders.. applaud their foresight.. now a sangh bhakt in our politics makes it easy for more division to be in power.. I'm ashamed to be called a Hindu as the religion has been insulted by the devilish brahmin hindutva ideologies.. Hinduism has been adulterated.. unfortunate!.. it will eventually being it's own doom this way
@@tinklingcrystals6489 you broadcast on loudspeakers 5 times a day - La ilaha illa Allah' - there is no god truly worthy of worship except Allah.
You are branding brahmins and followers of hindu faith as devils and will be doomed ? - you are speaking the language of the book aren't you ?
@@tinklingcrystals6489nd what was the starting point
Naseeruddin Shah is the epitome of excellence in his speech.
So he is.
But Mr Shah is also a hypocrite
like most educated peaceful Muslims!
*
Please check this out:
At 18:30, 27:30, & 33:05 (see comments)
Mr Karan Thapar was not objectively minded
to point out his glaring "pot-kettle" hypocrisy
to Mr Naseeruddin Shah
genuinely upset on the subject of "hate speech",
while Islam & Qur'an have evidently been
the global fountainhead of hate speech & hate preach!
Thanks Karan for this excellent interview, Salute to the great actor NS for being a responsible citizen who speaks out reality.
30 minutes of raw and quality content. 🔥
It's cheap and inhumane to resent or hate someone for the wrong deeds of his/ her ancestors.
Assuming that you're referring to Muslims, most common Muslims don't share their ancestry with Moghuls or any other Muslim rulers.
@@tgsaravind I admit that you're right. Where'll a Bengali, Gujrati, Tamil, Malayali or Maithili/Santhili muslims will go if the country has to be divided again based on religion? Some fundamental lunatics don't understand this. For them the fact remains - The Division has been created.
Naseeruddin Shah is an actor and a human being whom I deeply admire. He has truly hit the nail on the head with regard to all the discussion points in this interview, in particular the direction India is heading towards and where India has made significant headway in its systematic erosion of communal harmony due to the politics of fear, hatred and division along religious lines. What’s equally admirable is that he has the integrity and fearless objectivity to call out India’s Muslim population on their constant lament of how they are discriminated against and marginalised. I agree with him 100% when he says that India’s Muslims should not play into the hands of the BJP government’s politics of fear and hate and that they should do this by standing out in all spheres of life, especially in education and in their professional lives so that they can never legally be discriminated against and marginalised. If communal harmony is destroyed, there is truly nothing left for a nation to be proud of.
At least someone in Bollywood has the courage to speak their mind...
The reality is it is in the very nature of our people to be managed from the top. A top down management and leadership of good quality from time to time accelerated our progress. Indians lack strong individuality except for a small minority. Our people our easily led astray. So if you don't have the best people in important positions where will we go? What is happening is the reverse it seems. All the wrong people are rising to the top. Especially in politics.
That's also because healthy debates are not encouraged in families! Even today. What the head of the family says is ultimate.
Mr Shah, I can understand the hate bred during the times of partition when families lost their loved ones. But today? When people have lived together for so long they have experienced harmony. But yes when grandparents from the partition time have consistently shared their trauma they faced then, has definitely percolated and imbedded as a deep seated opinion. Also the repeated negativities reinforced during cricket matches has been well entrenched in their psyches! I hated this attitude and always questioned whether it is a game they were watching or a war? That is one reason why I never took interest in cricket. And this is perpetrated by so-called educated people!
The lack of consideration and the superiority complex stems from being partly educated and when education is only a means to get a job. Just mugging up texts only to vomit it to get good marks is not "education", it's mugucation! Even today reading does not happen in families. Reading is only limited to schools! Very few read relevant stuff. And now the only source of "Education" is WhatsApp University!
Very intellectual analysis by you. Sir
It's pleasure to hear Veteran actor Sri Nassaruddin Shah and the well known journalist Karan Thaper over the conversation with the burning topics nowadays in our beloved country🇮🇳 India.. God bless you both...
I am not Indian but lived there for a couple of years and fell in love with it. Heart breaking to see the polarization. 100% of the comments here agree with Mr.Shah's view while 100% of comments under religiously charged videos are hateful..it just shows that Indians, much like Americans are prisoners of echo chambers
Never heard these Lutyens talking that Hindus are not Kafirs. They are our friends. The loudspeakers screaming there heads off despite Court rulings against them were never talked about.
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India needs more freedom of speech like US and France. We need freedom of speech to criticize anyone including govt and any system including every religion Islam Hinduism or Christianity.
Blasphemy laws are not going to help us move forward.
I only half agree with opening remarks of Nasaruddin. I am 65. True, in 60s and 70s many Hindus, particularly those under the influence of RSS like me, had less-than-respectful attitude toward Muslims. But Congress strongly promoted secularism and even though we hated Congress we grew out of anti-Muslim bias with our own rational thinking and not without help from Government' strong secular stand. The Modi-Shah phenomenon is absolutely new and has nothing to do with the long-dead primitive thinking of 60s and 70s.
How could this man says the truth so easily and what a clear mind he has. He must be a reader in his life. May be people like Naseeruddin called intellectuals.
Courageous to say at least this much. Appreciable
Still good people and good discourse is encouraged in this great country. Don't b hopeless. Although media is working for BJP, institutions under it's control and public is being poisoned by false propaganda yet I believe it will end soon. Night could b long but there will b a new sunrise. Jai hind jai bharat
Really fantastic comment from a very learned and educated person. Unlike Jaishanker who has double digit qualifications after his name but according to me a ignorant uneducated bigot
There is a difference between tough, bold intellectual question and moronic diatribe. People can support if you stop the latter and pursue the former.
Excellent responses from Mr.Shah ! Hats off sir !
During Note bandi, we were very disciplined, standing hours in hot sun before Bank.
Now in Kerala our bank accounts are being freezed when we use UPI all of a sudden.... no use complaining to the banks cyber police cell local police.. the Gujarati police have freezed all the accounts and Gujarat police is inaccessible 😭.. now many of us are running pillar to post to get our own money.. Gujaratis are a menace in every way
Very sensible and thoughtful. Realise your responsibility as Citizens. Introspect yourself not only to Leaders but citizens too. Great Guy.
I salute Naseeruddin Shah for his courage and intelligence. I never thought he is such a keen reader of our society, politics and can communicate so unambiguously .. i agree with his perception about the working style of pm modi.
You think PM will care what he think of him..LOL
We need an unbiased and correct view of the happening taking place in the society and the country at large. Your channel is doing great job. I will say you are doing a noble work for the nation. Please contiune with your bold journalism. May God bless you all.
So real....... I wish prime minister bhi kabhi is tarah se sach bolein jab bhi wo interview dein.
He aces at White Lies.
Quran is a book full of hate speech.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah"(Quran 8:12)
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)
I agree if only PM nawaz, bhutto, imran had spoken the truth, the country wont be where it find itself right now.
03:58 he had true knowledge of history. Very true. His parents taught him well.
Here's the true knowledge of history for you. Maraths and Sikhs were British servants and the reasons behind the colonization. They took soldiers, bombs, guns, maps , telescopes from British to invade people who used stones and swords. Aaa thuu ! Buzdil. You didn't have a country before the British. There was no India before the British and no Hindusthan before Mahmood Ghouri. South Asia is a region like Europe and not a country. It has over 50 historically, culturally, linguistically and racially separated nations/ tribes for over 10,000 years. Maurya, kushan, Aryans, Pirthiviraj, Porus, Dahir, Abdaalli, Ghouri, khilji, Mughals are from North West ( current Pakistan and central Asia). They have always plundered and looted ganga jamuna ( current India). Maurya invaded current regions of India over 20 times and killed and raped millions. Who was fighting with Maurya and Ashoka if it was one India? All of the above kingdoms , including the British had to conquer small small tribes ad nations. At the end of their empires these regions /nations went back to their original phase of many nations separated on cultural and linguistic basis. A french is not German. A punjabi is not Tamil or Gujarati or Assami. India is a zoo created by the British and will break. British left a trained army and RAW to beat other nations and forcefully keep them in India so India stays in permanent choas and poverty. How can you fly flag to Indus? Have you checked with Southern nations that were massacred by Indus Valley kingdoms? Is Chinese Burmese regions of Northeast interested in your " flag" ? They have their own histories, heroes, cultures and languages. British given Indians army kills 1000's of freedom fighters in northeast but only Kashmir is highlighted to keep over 50 polythiest nations inside India united against one big enemy Pakistan and against Muslims. Anyone outside the British created indian territory is now shown as " Invader" when there was no bigger invader and killer than Maurya, Ashoka, Kushan Pirthviraj etc. There have been hundreds of empires in Geographical Hindustan. If it was Kingdom of India why you’re calling it Maurya Empire . People before Ashoka were also from the same land . They didn’t identified themselves as Bharti / Hindusthani/ Indians nor they’re identified by historians Bharti/Indian or Hindustani . Indian Nationalism is a pretty new concept.
Superb fantastic interview ❤
Love your Interviews.
Kudos for Karan Sir
Thank you for speaking the truth.👍
Have a blessed Easter.
I like your interview and most of it. But most remarkable and historical was "dosti banatay Ragah" 😂😂
For honest & straight forward journalism.
Thank you Karan ji for interviewing such an Indian patriot and a great artist such as Mr. Naseeruddin Shah ji. This is a very important discussion for the security of India and the unity of all Indians.
The only PM I have seen since birth who is connected with people and keeps national priorities above anything. I have never seen a sitting Bharath Prime Minister revered so much outside of Bharath. He is indeed the great one. He will go down into the history books as one of the finest PM India had..... He's such a prolific leader, a die-hard nationalist Modi, his government, BJP and NDA always and always believes in the " Sab Ka Saat, Sab Ka Vikas , Sab Ka Viswas " i.e., development to all and earning the respect and good will of all the sections of the people of India. Period. Irrespective of the caste, creed, religion, or region the Modi and his government implemented all the welfare schemes equally, designed and implemented policy decisions with a very inclusive mentality and treated every Indian with utmost respect, dignity and value. By the by.... Both in the 2014 and 2019 Loksabha BJP has the maximum number of MPs from the SC and ST communities respectively. Both in the 2014 and 2019 Loksabha BJP has the maximum number of MPs from the OBC communities respectively. So far BJP has the maximum number of CMs from OBC community BJP has its national president from OC, OBC and SC communities respectively right from its inception BJP nominated and thus got elected a person from OBC community as Prime Minster of India BJP nominated and thus got elected a person from SC community as President of India During both the 2014 and 2019 general elections and also during the innumerable respective state, Municipal, Corporation, Panchayat etc, etc elections BJP got massive electoral support from all the sections of the Indian society like OC, OBC, SC, ST etc, etc and thus secured most and most of the time an overwhelming majorities in the respective Loksabha, respective state assemblies, Corporations etc,
GGomath Kamdhenu
All Bull shit talk.
You are right. Its about getting the right leader.. people will pick correctly.
Eloquently put . Vehemently expressed.
Thank Karan Sir for bringing such a wonderful actor and great human being ! He nailed it! The respect for him has multipled manifold !
Informative and helpful debate. I really enjoyed the article
Great to see Mr. Shah.
Great interview.👍
Wonderfully brought out of a person the very intellect we the Indians need most this time when the intellectuals and artists by rule has sold out their spine. Mr Shah is the one of the rare few now to live with a spine definitely braving out to loose contracts/ incomes and chance of winning official awards- that's the way a superior and real human behaves. So is with Mr Karan. Congratulations for presenting such a vivid presentation of reality in the age of disinformation by bootlicker media.
You both are one of the best in the fields you are!!! It is a pleasure to watch such interviews!!
I agree to Ambir Singh and Lt.Col.Niraj Pant comments .When he himself is involved in it he won’t say anything to his chamchas who bark against Muslims .May sensible people like Mr.Singh , Mr.Niraj Pant Naseeruddin shah Thappar increase kudos to u.all of u.
Nice interview sir
please Stand with democracy and human human dignity. 🙏
Hi to day truly speech very nice thanku somutch❤
We must realise that we live in this world for a limited time. During that time should we think and act against some individuals or groups or religions and waste our limited time ? Instead can we not think and act that all are our brethren and live in peace and joy ? Can we not devise a method to achieve this target and to pass on this message of brotherhood to the following generation ?
He said it, when he says, ‘ I don’t think the political discourse of our court has ever been lower.’
The sign off was heartwarming.. ❤❤
Naseer Saab is a very well educated, courageous and outspoken personality.