Hi everyone! Comments will be moderated by me to preserve the mental health of all of my friends, and fellow survivors, who took part in this panel discussion. Like anyone on social media, I receive negative comments due to my openness, and criticism is inevitable. I am developing a theory that unresolved trauma, including from childhood, is at the root of alienation and other issues. This project aims to promote healing and prevent the repetition of trauma. To those who post negative and accusatory comments, I urge you to reflect on your own issues before projecting them onto others. Parental alienation is real and abusive. If you deny this, consider what need you’re fulfilling by dismissing the experiences of survivors.
We are proud of you for speaking your truth and creating a safe platform for survivors. I pray every day for my two b/c I worry about their mental health. I hope one day they will become strong survivors who can share their story.
Madi, your developing theory, that unresolved trauma, including from childhood, is at the root of alienation and other issues." YES, YES, YES! I urge you to keep exploring that narrative, namely how that trauma leads to personality disorders and how that connects to Parental Alienation. As a targeted parent, I can't thank you enough for what you are doing. This round table is AMAZING! Hearing adult victims of Parental Alienation/Pathogenic Parenting share your stories. Wow! Peace and love to you all! ❤️
I am an alienated father. I love my little girl so much, but she has been taught to hate me. I have not seen my little girl for a year, maybe I will not see her again. The pain of this is almost unbearable😢. Most people don’t understand the pain. Thank you Madi for speaking out.
Don’t give up, keep on fighting for your baby. I had to do it with my kids, and I could not handle the pain, but put your pain aside and keep on trying to see and be with your child. You will never regret trying. It is your mental health that needs a lot of attention, don’t neglect that in the process
As an alienated mom of 17 years I can’t tell you how happy I am to see more awareness happening!!! Thank you for your bravery to champion this very worthy cause! Please don’t ever give up!!!
I’m a mom who’s alienated from my 3 children. It’s been over 12 years now. I pray my children come across this video. I have no contact with them at all. They won’t respond to me, just nothing. I love and miss my children.
I feel you, sister. Same here- close enough to pass, anyway- and I hope you can keep enough faith that you WILL eventually have contact. It will never be what it should have been or was before… but it’s better to have some than none in our cases, IMO. Love you. Keep your head up.
I used to have 4 kids and 6 grandchildren. Now I understand my punishment for not figuring it out sooner is banishment. We used to be a good family but now I wish I had adopted them out, if I had a different live I would have a life now. Now I’m too old to start again but at least I finally know what happened. The Machiavellian narcissist had to own them. All 3 kids are autistic so they were easy to abuse, especially as their dad had not much involvement growing up. It was too hard and he had to play video games, his favorite babysitting technique.
This is the most painful thing I've had to witness. As I listen to these stories, I think about the quiet abuse that occurs that goes undetected for decades. So horrifying
I came here “comment section “ looking for others going through this. I’m in my first year of this and would love to find a supportive community to share experiences / tips with
This is so powerful. I’m bawling my eyes out! Thank you so much for being honest, even about the lying! As a grandmother falsely accused by my own grandkids, I needed the validation. ❤
Alienated mom of 3, for 3 yrs. We stopped PA from happening to my two younger and my stepson. It’s still hard… still going through it but we have found a way to stop it “legally.” I’ll be reaching out to Maddie soon.
omg i am so happy i am not alone, when i divorced years ago, I am the alienation parent that has been targeted for 15 years…last year he moved 4 doors down and Ive yet to see my children once no one knew what PA is. Not only did my ex take my children for over 7 years despite me having custody ….I cry everyday as my name is mud. One day they will figure it out
Madi, THANK YOU. I believe your years of pain, suffering and manipulation through P.A. will NOT be wasted. I believe you Will make positive changes to bring awareness and changes in Law to eliminate this abuse. You give me hope, courage and a Sense of Relief.....
What a fantastic panel discussion! 1-4% of U.S. kids are moderately to severely alienated. That’s a lot more than I thought! I’m an alienated stepmom… It is difficult no matter how you fit into the story!
Powerful presentation by Dr. Harman, and thank you to Madi and the other eloquent survivors for your vulnerability, generosity, clarity and courage. Bravo!
Wonderful panel discussion with Dr. Harman and you 6 courageous adult survivors of Parental Alienation. Very fitting that it aired on 4-25-24 Parental Alienation Awareness Day! Great work!💕🙏🏼😃📚
Madi, I am so proud of you and the other fiercely brave speakers. You all are the voice of the children of all of us loving, waiting parents. Keep going. You are rock stars.
You all are so brave and helping blaze through all the gaslighting that happens with this topic and helping so many people. Helping educate, advocate, challenge old beliefs, assist young adults question their reality that was created for them, politicians and family court law, and I wish of course, the alienating parent but that's unlikely-abusers are rarely successfully rehabilitated. I am so proud of you and my heart and tears are so BIG for you-for what you've been through and the growing pains you've endured to come out of it. I hope my daughter will someday be able to vocalize this psychological, and everything that comes with it, WARFARE.
Thank you so much for doing this work and research. Thank you for sharing to the participants. I was alienated from my mother and now am alienated from my own children. I pray this comes out of the shadows 🙏
Hi Ladies, just want to say how much I appreciate you sharing your stories -- as a targeted parent it has been extraordinarily difficult to process the feelings, the trauma and the pain; I can only imagine what it has been like for my children if it has been this difficult for me. The pain that you ladies are working through is obviously deep. I just want to say that your feelings are warranted and what you have experienced is real. I hope you all find peace ❤
Thank you all for sharing. I am an alienated Dad and hearing your stories breaks my heart as my daughter is going through this. It’s so painful from my side, as the alienated, to hear my baby’s side from women who have been in her situation is eye opening. Still fighting for her and never will stop though the situation feels impossible at times.
This is heavy.... Would it be appropriate to send this to my adult daughters? Some psychologists advise don't do anything negative that might push them away, but on the other hand... can I wait 10 years to see if they figure it out?
Oh my gosh...I'm so sorry this happened to you....recovering addict here...Ii know this pain all too well... I SHAMED to death too... terrible. I'm so sorry
Keep up your work, we need more testimonies from alienated adult children ❤ The world has to be educated to know what goes on behind closed doors. This mostly applies to all the lawyers, judges, students in all schools, police, social workers, therapists etc We need to understand the family dysfunction. Many people have children with the wrong partner.
We should have speakers come into schools to speak of these tragedies. There are so many divorced families now that this should definitely become something that is discussed so children can hear this now and recognize way before adulthood so there can be a change in allienation and mental health struggles in our children
I’m the mom and am so worried for my kids. I’m alienated and the grandmother has created such a power dynamic the amount everyone suffers. I miss my kids they have changed so much
I love that this page is drawing attention to this issue. I’m a Dad currently going through this with my 13 year old daughter. Is anyone aware of a group for Dads or parents who are currently or have been alienated? I’m looking for a supportive group of parents so we can share our experiences. Thanks and good luck to everyone..
This was EPIC, to be among others who understand what it is like to be a child of a high conflict divorce or separation. We've waited a long time to have enough of us who want to share our stories as a group, to have an impact that is much louder than sharing our stories individually. We have a sisterhood of thrivers here, but truely, we have a family of other survivors, because it doesn't only affect female childnen or fathers. We have a mix of Survivors that have stories that cover the variety of victims that are effected by this form of abuse.
I wish family and friends would watch this so they can gain a better understanding. But I find those that are not impacted rarely care to better understand 😔
The premiere event presentation was very informative! Thank you, Madi, for facilitating this huge effort. Dr. Jennifer Harman was incredibly articulate and experienced about this family and societal issue. I ordered the book she mentioned, “Bonded to the Abuser” by Dr. Amy Baker. You are making progress. I wish my two adult children would be able to see outside the dysfunctional narcissistic alternate reality, but they have been indoctrinated well by their father. It’s sad, but I’m not making progress in simple postcards through the mail service. It’s frustrating because I love my children dearly. I was their biggest cheerleader growing up. Need to live my life accordingly, I guess. I hope they come around. Good luck to the survivors who spoke out today! They have empowered themselves so much by telling their stories.
"Hell's Angels" > 😇< strikes me that term FITS the entire scenario. Innocents who were dragged through many years of absolute HELL. Among the "experts" who speak on this topic, Dr. Harmon is one of the BEST. So glad you chose her to be on the panel.
It is truly heart-wrenching to think about the difficult situation of children who find themselves in the midst of an environment where their parents are struggling with mental health and wellness issues. These innocent souls must be experiencing immeasurable pain and confusion when their parents' accounts of events are constantly high-conflict. They are at risk of being estranged or alienated from their loved ones, and it must be incredibly challenging for them to navigate through these trying circumstances. My heart goes out to anyone who is grappling with these complex and challenging situations.
I am a mom of 3 and my children have been alienated from me😢 I just want to know how other mums and dad survive this because there are times I feel like I am literally losing my mind because I just can't comprehend how bad someone can hate you and turn children you carried in your women against you😢
Where can parents that are the "Targeted" parents go for support with other parents for support? Thank you for what you do and so wish you could talk to my sweet baby girl. I miss her so much
Thank you all for your work and for your bravery in speaking out. You are giving a voice to this type of abuse. You are each amazing and this will change lives!
A high conflict divorce after my separation due to years of emotional, psychological, physical, and financial abuse and coercive control, I finally escaped with my two youngest children. Now, the role reversal, smear campaign, and lies against me have since resulted in his denial of my visitation for almost two years, when he sued me for CS (yet he never paid any to me that was court ordered) the judge acknowledged he denied my visits, coerced the children into choosing to live with him, yet also allowed the children to choose to live with him as “status quo” after two years apart. Now I am trying to continue to rebuild and reconnect with my two youngest, as my two oldest children were not targeted like my youngest two were. I try to stay connected at the risk of “being annoying”, but there’s no love like a parent’s love, and I will always fight for them, for every minute together.
I believe you all the most brave and shining beautiful people I know. I am so happy Madi you also got in contact with Dr Harman, you may not know but you both save my life. So much gratitude and respect. Don't stop. Keep going. You blessed.
Your channel is so awesome! I'm going back over all the old content, stuff that I missed out before I discovered your chan, it's like water in the desert:)
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I’m the parent who raised them. I was the parent who educated and loved them. Their dad had little to do with them so now he’s a special treat. I became stressed and depressed. It was the perfect scenario. I have never been out of control or ever spanked. But I’m too crazy to keep in the family,
I think it needs to be said though, that not every child can be manipulated like that. I can't and also this whol conversation can be a touch manipulative as well for people that are easily manipulated
Can you add to the show notes the name of the book Prof Harman recommended and the link to the article. Also, Washington State now has a requirement that all family law arbitrators must have continuing education including children development. Can we get recommended court training from PASG and perhaps encourage those providers to reach out to all those in Washington State like the JAMS service.
I wish this research had come out before now. I might have finally been able to at least have saved my youngest son in the second round of custody battles for him against my own mother. I actually did find your article during the chaos of fighting my mother and now my son’s father as well. Being that both my mother and “Bret”, my sons Dad were much the same in their abusive tactics I was able to see the dynamics tactics from the Ali and the enemy from both of them myself, to my son, and on each other. Bret had no idea what he was getting into having being absent from our lives the first 7 years of our sons life. Thankfully I had been saving money back to take my mom back to court eventually but I still was not prepared then. I had already lost my oldest son to her. In that case she capitalized on me being crazy or on drugs because of the bizarre accusations I made against her. Sadly everything I said was 100% true. She went as far as to poison my cat right before a home visit from CPS so that she vomitted and had the worst smelling diarrhea as well as turned off my water main. This prevented me from cleaning up a lot before the visit and being that the park pays for the water I had no proof that I even had running water. I had no idea that she had told them I had pipe issues in the house that I refused to fix so there was sewage running out in the house. I had no idea of so many things she said and did contrary to the truth that she hand fed me to prove to them as truth. She would give me a wrong address or a wrong date of things or wrong times almost always so that I would show up at the end of school functions if at all. This applied to court dates as well and meetings etc. all opportunities to alienate me from everyone involved and make me look like a drug addict who didn’t care about my kids. I could go on for hours telling you about it. When I had my second son I had to have my lawyer come to the hospital and have her removed because she was outside my room talking to doctor about my drug use and to make sure and test me because my youngest was much smaller than my oldest son which she has custody of. They did test me and it was negative btw. I had to be checked back in as a Jane doe and drove myself home from the hospital with my baby. I was almost going to get my oldest back and she was going to do anything to keep that from happening and get her hands on the new baby. I was on probation at the time of all this for family violence, an indent that happened the day I found the money she paying off my lawyer to make sure she got custody my oldest. Now fast forward back to the second case where I was fighting for him for the second time with my newborn baby in my arms. I was too close for comfort so she had my step dad come over and plant a few things around my house and called my probation officer crying that I was back on drugs etc. my officer went on nothing but this and me rescheduling an appointment due to the baby and I having the flu. She revoked my probation and even got warrant officers to come and pick me at my home. I sat in jail for 9 months that counted for nothing while she continued with getting both of my kids from me permanently now while telling me to pick the rehab program and she would give me my kids back when I got out. That was a lie amongst many. When I got out I made friends with a great older man that took a special interest in me and my kids. He helped me get on my feet and saw my mother for the manipulator that she was. He empowered me to stand on my own and never give up the fight for my boys. He died right before the third battle for my boys. He would have been proud of me even though I lost it eventually. I battle that lasted 3 years that Bret dropped out of iafter the first year and a half. I had to go to couciling to keep my head straight during that time and she really helped me to see my mom’s parent alliation patterns and tactics. My mom is nothing short of a sociopath in my personal opinion. She would tell my kids you can only truly love one person and that I didn’t love them and didn’t deserve to be loved. That’s why your dads didn’t stand by to raise them or I love drugs more than them etc. That’s when it hit me! My mom had used the same tactics on me when her and my dad split up. My dad froze every thing leaving her with nothing and she would tell me he didn’t love me and he was on drugs etc. I even I potty trained myself and would throw horrible fits for my dad. She couldn’t brake the bond. I was supposed to be at his house the weekend he was murdered and I blamed myself for his death cause had I been there with him he would not have been at the club working that night. I wore that guilt my whole life. Sadly she played on it all the time as well. My dad’s death is still an unsolved murder case that was ruled as a suicide. I have struggled my whole life with mental illness and guilt, shame, feelings of inadequacy, self doubt, and never ever being able to succeed very long at anything. My mom was even able to ruin both of my weddings and in many ways the marriages themselves. When you spoke of the unhealthy attachment to the abuser this struck a cord in me as to why I have put up with her minipulations far into adulthood where now she had to use my children to control me. She refuses any couciling or therapy for my boys as well as me my whole life. We were always moving. I’m sick seeing that I was a victim of this abuse and never given any tools to fight it and then fell pray to her in taking mine from me and hurting them the same way. I do have a relationship with my oldest at all for unknown reasons. My youngest is smart enough to see it at times and hasn’t given up on me but plays to her minipulations and negativity about me. I would do anything to change it all but it’s just too late. Now I’m left with even more guilt and shame and any hope for promise in the future dwendalling down with my unforgiving depression that only tells my boys she was right about everything when she isn’t. This is the result of it all. Not at all where I started this battle. They can’t see the full picture as I do. My oldest is her favorite btw. Anyways thank you for bringing awareness to this syndrome. Maybe it will start to recognize instead of exploiting the loving co parent as crazy.
Children of any age should never be put into a position of choosing between two parents. They are children, they shouldn’t be put into that emotionally breaking decision. It’s not that children can’t be trusted. It’s that they’re children & don’t have the capacity to make adult choices.
Yes! This!! In my experience, the “professionals” and decision makers need to be more educated… especially regarding psychological, emotional and mental abuse. These types of abuse are so insidious and hard to prove because the scars are on the inside and not in the form of black eyes.
I wish to express my deepest respect for the courageous women who have come forward to share their experiences of severe psychological abuse. It's unimaginable how devastating such abuse can be, especially when inflicted by those who themselves suffered in childhood. As a father separated from his children for over six years, I comprehend the profound impact. I'd like to clarify a point made by Madi regarding human rights violations. The specific issues she refers to are, more accurately, violations of children's rights. It's a regrettable truth that the United States remains the only country yet to ratify the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC). This pivotal treaty delineates the comprehensive spectrum of children's rights, from civil to cultural, and establishes international standards for their safeguarding. Articles 8 and 9 of the UNCRC are particularly pertinent in this context. Furthermore, I propose that we amplify the conversation around pathogenic parenting. Despite the media's reluctance to address matters tied to family court, it's crucial to shed light on this topic. The analogy of dental health is apt here: neglecting oral hygiene can lead to cavities, much like ignoring the early signs of familial discord can result in deep-seated conflict. Just as we would consult a dentist to address tooth decay, we must engage mental health professionals to prevent and treat the psychological equivalent. I urge professionals, survivors, children, and affected parents alike to commit to research, assessment, diagnosis and treatment grounded in established knowledge and ethical standards. Let's not merely speak of our pain and the flaws we observe; let's proactively address them. Like brushing our teeth to prevent cavities, let's take preventive measures to avoid the escalation of conflict. In doing so, we can foster healing and promote the well-being of all involved.
😅I am wondering if there is something I can do about two kids age 7 and 4 who are in the process of being used by one parent to alienate the other. That parent keeps telling them that their mother does not love him and that is why he had to leave the house etc etc… Since they are not my children, how can I Help them and save them from the horrific pain that you are describing?
I'm kind of surprised to hear all of the panel say that their experiences of being raised by the alieantor was abusive and traumatic. I have witnessed my husband get alienated from him kids for the last 10+ years and his child has told him how much he loves his mother and how much she means to him, while telling my husband how worthless he is in his eyes. And, my husband is constantly told that his kids are happy with the way things are, meaning that he's not in their life. I'm just curious if it's even possible to be a loving and supportive parent while being an alieantor?
The alienating parent projects their own abusive behavior on the other parent and/or uses the other parent’s reasonable reactions to their behavior against them and frames them as the problem. I believed my moms instability and irrational behavior was because of my dad. So her behavior was always justified and he was always to blame. When you don’t get the targeted parents side of the story, or you don’t have the physical or emotional distance needed from the alienating parent a child isn’t safe to even consider that there is any other side than what they’ve been repeatedly told. I hope your husbands kids will come to a place where they can learn the truth and reconnect with their dad and heal. If those of us ladies on the panel learned the truth and now speak up about it, I believe there is so much hope for other alienated kids to do so as well.
I think that’s because these panel members have actually figured out and processed what has happened to them. Sounds like your step children haven’t done that yet.
Madi, could you please confirm the MST time for this event? Your post states 5 PM MST, my Arizona time, but TH-cam shows the event begins at 4:00 PM MST. EST is not a used time zone, as posted on your event premiere. I am confused. I have shared your post with many group members on my FB estranged parents groups; now I am concerned that I have shared the wrong start time which TH-cam shows as 4:00 PM.
Sorry!! It’s 5 pm mst (salt lake city time). I’m so bad with time zones! I hope this doesn’t mess anything up for anyone. The video will be saved so you can watch it anytime you want after the premiere
They definitely relate to that part about being two different people the public and then the behind closed doors persona my narcissistic abusive mother was like that she treated me horrifically but she had the whole world convinced that she was a loving parent so anytime I would go to someone for help they would be like ohh I'm sure you're exaggerating she loves you they just couldn't be convinced that once they weren't looking she was a literal psychopath but then I never actually fought hard enough to make my case cause I could barely even believe it because I was just a child also caught in her web like they said children will believe whatever they have to to survive when it's not safe to question
The Abuser got 5 cell phones package for the Children with an App to Control, Delete or Reroute any messages Dad would leave. All the children thought this was cool as they had their own phones. The children were taught to turn Dad in when they seen him and they were rewarded for this behavior.
Im a father to a wonderful girl, her mom is collectively working against me to alienate my daught against me. She has my daught living with a alcoholic that has drove a vehicle with her in it while under the influence. My daughter is rewarded with acceptance for rejection and devaluing me as a father. I easily see this power dynamic. Her mothers family often gaslights people, and Ive seen the Triangulation. Pray for my child.
As an alienated mother, my biggest problem is that my daughter, who was fathered by my stalker & happens to be a very powerful law enforcement officer, Demands that I repeat his terrible lies to her. She was told I was a drug addict a prostitute, dead, you name it. In reality I became a nun and spent my life running a homeless outreach program and helping others. So to have contact with my daughter I must repeat over and over that I'm a dirty little w#ore. I love my daughter so much but I just can't continuously do this. What help can you offer people like me to those that there is no hope of reunification?
Now we should discuss therapists alienating our children.....telling you child No when they try to stick a fork into the electrical socket, or are running into traffic.... that isn't abuse. But therapists are telling clients, if you're parents EVER used the word no.... you have been abused. 🤷♀️ but then also telling the same young adults that it's ok to chop body parts off their 2 year old. Total insanity
It would probably depend heavily on who it was telling them about it, and whether the kid would have the courage to seek the truth and/or risk the “favored” parent’s retaliation.
My kids were made to believe I was dangerous to them and that I didn’t love or want them. So… if a child believes these lies, where does that leave them? Stuck where they are with their broken hearts. And what good would it be to recognize the true nature of the parent they’re dependent on, if they believe they are unwanted by the one they’ve been alienated against? All that would do is cause more mental distress. It’s all bad… and the worst part of any of it is how much damage and grief the kids suffer.
The shocking thing still is. So few people get it. They think. Ok the kid dislikes one of their parents. What’s the big deal. Like it’s some fad or mood swing that will fade out with time. It does take a lot of emotional intelligence and foresight to understand the implications and long term consequences - last but not least to our society! - of alienating a vulnerable child.
Problem I have with Ryan Thomas is that he says his program works best for parents recieving a high income. Then the courses he runs are locked behind high pay walls. Which is great for parents having to pay child support or who are broke. Especially parents who may have lost their jobs from malicious false accusations. Same with Dorcy Pruter. Fair enough, her retreats have expenses but her courses don't need to be the price they are. Why do they need to offer a course and set the price so high? There are courses and info you can get for free or low amounts. In Ryan's case, trying to justify high prices by saying that high income parents do better. That's not a good stance to take, sends a message to all low income parents to give up. Also sends a message that he is more interested about high paying clients. I also question whether it's their income that makes them do better, or their mindset? Because we all know you can throw thousands at the court and end up nowhere.
I understand trying to bring in big money to this for donations. But I can see what you mean as well. People with more money will bring in more donations though. We have non profits at this time trying to create more problems than good. Our system is going to need that money to correct and update people so our system creates better decisions based on good information not propaganda through half truths and outright lies. Does it need to be leaving out those that can't afford it? No. I think those that can't afford it can end up being the most victimized by this kind of abuse. They'll be needed to get a better picture of how the system should change.
Its been 5 years since ive seen my 4 kids . so very sad to brainwash your own children. Its never ever our childrens fault. I know exactly whos behind it.
Alienated mother here, I wish you didn't use the mother as example of alienator, hope my son listens to this and can recognise the reversal of roles in his case. Any parent who denies a child access the the other parent must not be mentally well. A healthy parent puts the child's needs first. Further, alienating the child from all the targetted parents' extended family is also evidence of severe alienation.
You are overthinking this whole thing. Understandable. Get back to basics and Gods plan for the family. Marriage. between a man an woman[I can't believe I have to say that].Why are children alienated from a parent? Million dollar answer. Divorce. Ok now we are getting somewhere. There is no higher authority than the ONE I am going to quote. Matt 19: 8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. end of quote. Pay attention! I am going somewhere with this. What was the penalty for adultery? Both parties were to be stoned to death. Kinda solved the CUSTODY issue did it not? The surviving spouse got the children and could remarry. Also unrepentant adulterers will not INHERIT the Kingdom of God.1 Cor.6:9. So divorce but WORSE the ADULTERY that follows leads to hell!!.Enter the 1960s and NO FAULT divorce laws. Society changed for the worse. The head of every man is Christ the head of the woman is her husband. God forbids a woman from usurping power over her husband using the wicked court system. Needless to say Hell hath enlarged itself since the 60s and "no fault divorce" laws and wicked judges and lawyers .No divorces granted. No adultery. No Child custody issues. Happy safe children not used as weapons and merchandise by evil women. These three things are paramount!!
Hi everyone! Comments will be moderated by me to preserve the mental health of all of my friends, and fellow survivors, who took part in this panel discussion.
Like anyone on social media, I receive negative comments due to my openness, and criticism is inevitable.
I am developing a theory that unresolved trauma, including from childhood, is at the root of alienation and other issues.
This project aims to promote healing and prevent the repetition of trauma.
To those who post negative and accusatory comments, I urge you to reflect on your own issues before projecting them onto others.
Parental alienation is real and abusive. If you deny this, consider what need you’re fulfilling by dismissing the experiences of survivors.
Well said Madi!
We are proud of you for speaking your truth and creating a safe platform for survivors. I pray every day for my two b/c I worry about their mental health. I hope one day they will become strong survivors who can share their story.
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Madi, your developing theory, that unresolved trauma, including from childhood, is at the root of alienation and other issues." YES, YES, YES! I urge you to keep exploring that narrative, namely how that trauma leads to personality disorders and how that connects to Parental Alienation. As a targeted parent, I can't thank you enough for what you are doing. This round table is AMAZING! Hearing adult victims of Parental Alienation/Pathogenic Parenting share your stories. Wow! Peace and love to you all! ❤️
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I am an alienated father. I love my little girl so much, but she has been taught to hate me. I have not seen my little girl for a year, maybe I will not see her again. The pain of this is almost unbearable😢. Most people don’t understand the pain. Thank you Madi for speaking out.
Don’t give up, keep on fighting for your baby. I had to do it with my kids, and I could not handle the pain, but put your pain aside and keep on trying to see and be with your child. You will never regret trying. It is your mental health that needs a lot of attention, don’t neglect that in the process
As an alienated mom of 17 years I can’t tell you how happy I am to see more awareness happening!!! Thank you for your bravery to champion this very worthy cause! Please don’t ever give up!!!
This channel is going to be a game changer.
we sure hope so!
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It already is 🙂
It already is.
Yes it is❤❤❤❤
I’m a mom who’s alienated from my 3 children. It’s been over 12 years now. I pray my children come across this video. I have no contact with them at all. They won’t respond to me, just nothing. I love and miss my children.
I feel you, sister. Same here- close enough to pass, anyway- and I hope you can keep enough faith that you WILL eventually have contact. It will never be what it should have been or was before… but it’s better to have some than none in our cases, IMO. Love you. Keep your head up.
😢I feel your pain. It's been about that for me and my only child. Wishing you strength and peace.
I used to have 4 kids and 6 grandchildren. Now I understand my punishment for not figuring it out sooner is banishment. We used to be a good family but now I wish I had adopted them out, if I had a different live I would have a life now. Now I’m too old to start again but at least I finally know what happened. The Machiavellian narcissist had to own them. All 3 kids are autistic so they were easy to abuse, especially as their dad had not much involvement growing up. It was too hard and he had to play video games, his favorite babysitting technique.
I’m in my 11th year alienated from my 3 now-adult sons. {{{Hugs}}} to you!
I pray the same for my children. Best wishes
I am so proud of all of these adult children survivors!
They sure lite FIRE under my butt after 30 yrs being silent....they gave me KY power back I feel
This is the most painful thing I've had to witness. As I listen to these stories, I think about the quiet abuse that occurs that goes undetected for decades. So horrifying
It is so sad that the targeted parent can't speak of what happened and why...
I am a mom alienated from my loving teenage daughter. I dearly love and miss my baby girl.
Please know you're not alone in your journey. 12 years, no contact with any of my miracles
Not alone. Year 5 of severe alienation. It is not likely that I'll ever see my beloved daughter again. Stay strong 💪
I came here “comment section “ looking for others going through this. I’m in my first year of this and would love to find a supportive community to share experiences / tips with
Please know you are not alone. Let us all be a voice and spread awareness for this hidden silent abuse.
This is so powerful. I’m bawling my eyes out! Thank you so much for being honest, even about the lying! As a grandmother falsely accused by my own grandkids, I needed the validation. ❤
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Alienated mom of 3, for 3 yrs. We stopped PA from happening to my two younger and my stepson. It’s still hard… still going through it but we have found a way to stop it “legally.”
I’ll be reaching out to Maddie soon.
Thank you, all of you!! I hope your efforts free every child held hostage by a parent/family member and heals those who have been torn in two.
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Thank you for doing this! You’re offering something unique and badly needed. I’m praying my kids find your channel!!❤
You are so welcome!
I plan on texting mine her channel... and praying they watch at least some and get curious enough to watch the rest.
omg i am so happy i am not alone, when i divorced years ago, I am the alienation parent that has been targeted for 15 years…last year he moved 4 doors down and Ive yet to see my children once no one knew what PA is. Not only did my ex take my children for over 7 years despite me having custody ….I cry everyday as my name is mud. One day they will figure it out
Madi, THANK YOU.
I believe your years of pain, suffering and manipulation through P.A. will NOT be wasted. I believe you Will make positive changes to bring awareness and changes in Law to eliminate this abuse.
You give me hope, courage and a Sense of Relief.....
What a fantastic panel discussion! 1-4% of U.S. kids are moderately to severely alienated. That’s a lot more than I thought! I’m an alienated stepmom… It is difficult no matter how you fit into the story!
Powerful presentation by Dr. Harman, and thank you to Madi and the other eloquent survivors for your vulnerability, generosity, clarity and courage. Bravo!
Thank you!!!! I appreciate your support 🖤
I was a subject in Dr. Harman's study.
Thank you. 🙏
Awesome!
Wonderful panel discussion with Dr. Harman and you 6 courageous adult survivors of Parental Alienation. Very fitting that it aired on 4-25-24 Parental Alienation Awareness Day! Great work!💕🙏🏼😃📚
It’s not just children , it’s also in older teens , my 26 year old now 5 years estranged . Her father and his mother masters of parental alienation
Madi, I am so proud of you and the other fiercely brave speakers. You all are the voice of the children of all of us loving, waiting parents. Keep going. You are rock stars.
thank you!!!! That’s how I feel about these ladies, too
You all are so brave and helping blaze through all the gaslighting that happens with this topic and helping so many people. Helping educate, advocate, challenge old beliefs, assist young adults question their reality that was created for them, politicians and family court law, and I wish of course, the alienating parent but that's unlikely-abusers are rarely successfully rehabilitated. I am so proud of you and my heart and tears are so BIG for you-for what you've been through and the growing pains you've endured to come out of it. I hope my daughter will someday be able to vocalize this psychological, and everything that comes with it, WARFARE.
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Thank you all for sharing your story
Thanks for listening!
Right on ladies!!!!!! Spread the word. Heal the hurt.
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I’m liking everyone’s comments- first in solidarity and second to hopefully stimulate the algorithm. ❤😊
Thank you so much for doing this work and research. Thank you for sharing to the participants.
I was alienated from my mother and now am alienated from my own children.
I pray this comes out of the shadows 🙏
Hi Ladies, just want to say how much I appreciate you sharing your stories -- as a targeted parent it has been extraordinarily difficult to process the feelings, the trauma and the pain; I can only imagine what it has been like for my children if it has been this difficult for me. The pain that you ladies are working through is obviously deep. I just want to say that your feelings are warranted and what you have experienced is real. I hope you all find peace ❤
Thank you all for sharing. I am an alienated Dad and hearing your stories breaks my heart as my daughter is going through this. It’s so painful from my side, as the alienated, to hear my baby’s side from women who have been in her situation is eye opening. Still fighting for her and never will stop though the situation feels impossible at times.
This is heavy.... Would it be appropriate to send this to my adult daughters? Some psychologists advise don't do anything negative that might push them away, but on the other hand... can I wait 10 years to see if they figure it out?
Oh my gosh...I'm so sorry this happened to you....recovering addict here...Ii know this pain all too well... I SHAMED to death too... terrible.
I'm so sorry
My mother alienated me from my father, then my children's father's alienated me from my children
Omg I’m so sorry!!!! We have a support group for adult children of parental alienation. You’re not alone!!
facebook.com/groups/866343211792820/
Keep up your work, we need more testimonies from alienated adult children ❤ The world has to be educated to know what goes on behind closed doors. This mostly applies to all the lawyers, judges, students in all schools, police, social workers, therapists etc We need to understand the family dysfunction. Many people have children with the wrong partner.
The same thing happened to me and my children. Best wishes
We should have speakers come into schools to speak of these tragedies. There are so many divorced families now that this should definitely become something that is discussed so children can hear this now and recognize way before adulthood so there can be a change in allienation and mental health struggles in our children
50% of allientated children will themselves become allienated
Great work ladies!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m the mom and am so worried for my kids. I’m alienated and the grandmother has created such a power dynamic the amount everyone suffers. I miss my kids they have changed so much
I love that this page is drawing attention to this issue. I’m a Dad currently going through this with my 13 year old daughter. Is anyone aware of a group for Dads or parents who are currently or have been alienated? I’m looking for a supportive group of parents so we can share our experiences. Thanks and good luck to everyone..
Brave woman here...let's go VIRAL!!! Just give me instructions....you'll beautiful souls ❤️
She's a research rockstar! We are fans and supporters of Dr. Jennifer Harman's work!
This was EPIC, to be among others who understand what it is like to be a child of a high conflict divorce or separation. We've waited a long time to have enough of us who want to share our stories as a group, to have an impact that is much louder than sharing our stories individually. We have a sisterhood of thrivers here, but truely, we have a family of other survivors, because it doesn't only affect female childnen or fathers. We have a mix of Survivors that have stories that cover the variety of victims that are effected by this form of abuse.
My 4 children were groomed from a young age to be mean.
Oh Madi - Thank you for sharing your story of your reunification with your father. How deeply moving. Please know that we hold you in your pain.
Thank you so much!
Asking child to choice is Abuse & it's self...& abused children at that
Supreme Court has stated that before
I wish family and friends would watch this so they can gain a better understanding. But I find those that are not impacted rarely care to better understand 😔
What about step-parents who teach your child to lie to their Mother and keep secrets for the Father?
Same kind of thing. Parental Alienation of a parent.
Love this! Thank you ladies for your courage to shine a light on this horrific form of child abuse
Thank you 🖤
Thanks!
oh wow thank you so much!
The premiere event presentation was very informative! Thank you, Madi, for facilitating this huge effort. Dr. Jennifer Harman was incredibly articulate and experienced about this family and societal issue. I ordered the book she mentioned, “Bonded to the Abuser” by Dr. Amy Baker. You are making progress.
I wish my two adult children would be able to see outside the dysfunctional narcissistic alternate reality, but they have been indoctrinated well by their father. It’s sad, but I’m not making progress in simple postcards through the mail service. It’s frustrating because I love my children dearly. I was their biggest cheerleader growing up.
Need to live my life accordingly, I guess. I hope they come around.
Good luck to the survivors who spoke out today! They have empowered themselves so much by telling their stories.
Bless your hearts
"Hell's Angels" > 😇< strikes me that term FITS the entire scenario. Innocents who were dragged through many years of absolute HELL.
Among the "experts" who speak on this topic, Dr. Harmon is one of the BEST. So glad you chose her to be on the panel.
It is truly heart-wrenching to think about the difficult situation of children who find themselves in the midst of an environment where their parents are struggling with mental health and wellness issues. These innocent souls must be experiencing immeasurable pain and confusion when their parents' accounts of events are constantly high-conflict. They are at risk of being estranged or alienated from their loved ones, and it must be incredibly challenging for them to navigate through these trying circumstances. My heart goes out to anyone who is grappling with these complex and challenging situations.
Excellent! And thank you all for sharing!
Thank you Maddie for everything you do!
I am a mom of 3 and my children have been alienated from me😢 I just want to know how other mums and dad survive this because there are times I feel like I am literally losing my mind because I just can't comprehend how bad someone can hate you and turn children you carried in your women against you😢
It’s been only a few years and I’m desperate to save my baby girl from her narcissistic father.
I’m so sorry
Hi Madi 👋
Thanks for being the voice of reason ✌️🤜🤛
Where can parents that are the "Targeted" parents go for support with other parents for support? Thank you for what you do and so wish you could talk to my sweet baby girl. I miss her so much
Thank you all for your work and for your bravery in speaking out. You are giving a voice to this type of abuse. You are each amazing and this will change lives!
Thanks so much for sharing your stories! This is priceless to us parents and hopefully, for kids going through this 😍❤️🩹
Absolutely!!
A high conflict divorce after my separation due to years of emotional, psychological, physical, and financial abuse and coercive control, I finally escaped with my two youngest children. Now, the role reversal, smear campaign, and lies against me have since resulted in his denial of my visitation for almost two years, when he sued me for CS (yet he never paid any to me that was court ordered) the judge acknowledged he denied my visits, coerced the children into choosing to live with him, yet also allowed the children to choose to live with him as “status quo” after two years apart. Now I am trying to continue to rebuild and reconnect with my two youngest, as my two oldest children were not targeted like my youngest two were. I try to stay connected at the risk of “being annoying”, but there’s no love like a parent’s love, and I will always fight for them, for every minute together.
Keep up your good work!
I am a huge fan of teamwork. Educate and inspire hope.
You are helping all gain strength.
I believe you all the most brave and shining beautiful people I know. I am so happy Madi you also got in contact with Dr Harman, you may not know but you both save my life. So much gratitude and respect. Don't stop. Keep going. You blessed.
Thank you so much. You are so brave and you will help so many !! ♥️♥️
Thank you
Beautiful! All of you showed great fortitude. Thank you.
thank you for coming out!! history maker
She is AMAZING
How could a targeted parent recieve a copy of this study?
Which study?
You can always just share it with them. Hopefully this helps them find support.✨🍀🙏
You’re awesome Madi!
This was a fantastic panel. Really good questions. Thank you for doing this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your channel is so awesome! I'm going back over all the old content, stuff that I missed out before I discovered your chan, it's like water in the desert:)
This is hard to watch. She is describing what happened to me, as the alienated parent.
Heartbreaking...Maddie looks my Hannah in braids....it's shocking
I picked that up too...same here
Yes it's hard to watch. Too late for me and my daughter, but it's worth it to protect other parents and children for future.
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I’m the parent who raised them. I was the parent who educated and loved them. Their dad had little to do with them so now he’s a special treat. I became stressed and depressed. It was the perfect scenario. I have never been out of control or ever spanked. But I’m too crazy to keep in the family,
You are a good and clever girl!!
I think it needs to be said though, that not every child can be manipulated like that. I can't and also this whol conversation can be a touch manipulative as well for people that are easily manipulated
Just realized the other QR codes are for those videos. Is there a QR code for this video tonight?
Great question! We don’t have a QR code to the video tonight
Can you add to the show notes the name of the book Prof Harman recommended and the link to the article.
Also, Washington State now has a requirement that all family law arbitrators must have continuing education including children development. Can we get recommended court training from PASG and perhaps encourage those providers to reach out to all those in Washington State like the JAMS service.
Look up Dr Childress and Judge Philip Marcus. They give a good explanation on parental alienation.
I wish this research had come out before now. I might have finally been able to at least have saved my youngest son in the second round of custody battles for him against my own mother. I actually did find your article during the chaos of fighting my mother and now my son’s father as well. Being that both my mother and “Bret”, my sons Dad were much the same in their abusive tactics I was able to see the dynamics tactics from the Ali and the enemy from both of them myself, to my son, and on each other. Bret had no idea what he was getting into having being absent from our lives the first 7 years of our sons life. Thankfully I had been saving money back to take my mom back to court eventually but I still was not prepared then. I had already lost my oldest son to her. In that case she capitalized on me being crazy or on drugs because of the bizarre accusations I made against her. Sadly everything I said was 100% true. She went as far as to poison my cat right before a home visit from CPS so that she vomitted and had the worst smelling diarrhea as well as turned off my water main. This prevented me from cleaning up a lot before the visit and being that the park pays for the water I had no proof that I even had running water. I had no idea that she had told them I had pipe issues in the house that I refused to fix so there was sewage running out in the house. I had no idea of so many things she said and did contrary to the truth that she hand fed me to prove to them as truth. She would give me a wrong address or a wrong date of things or wrong times almost always so that I would show up at the end of school functions if at all. This applied to court dates as well and meetings etc. all opportunities to alienate me from everyone involved and make me look like a drug addict who didn’t care about my kids. I could go on for hours telling you about it. When I had my second son I had to have my lawyer come to the hospital and have her removed because she was outside my room talking to doctor about my drug use and to make sure and test me because my youngest was much smaller than my oldest son which she has custody of. They did test me and it was negative btw. I had to be checked back in as a Jane doe and drove myself home from the hospital with my baby. I was almost going to get my oldest back and she was going to do anything to keep that from happening and get her hands on the new baby. I was on probation at the time of all this for family violence, an indent that happened the day I found the money she paying off my lawyer to make sure she got custody my oldest. Now fast forward back to the second case where I was fighting for him for the second time with my newborn baby in my arms. I was too close for comfort so she had my step dad come over and plant a few things around my house and called my probation officer crying that I was back on drugs etc. my officer went on nothing but this and me rescheduling an appointment due to the baby and I having the flu. She revoked my probation and even got warrant officers to come and pick me at my home. I sat in jail for 9 months that counted for nothing while she continued with getting both of my kids from me permanently now while telling me to pick the rehab program and she would give me my kids back when I got out. That was a lie amongst many. When I got out I made friends with a great older man that took a special interest in me and my kids. He helped me get on my feet and saw my mother for the manipulator that she was. He empowered me to stand on my own and never give up the fight for my boys. He died right before the third battle for my boys. He would have been proud of me even though I lost it eventually. I battle that lasted 3 years that Bret dropped out of iafter the first year and a half. I had to go to couciling to keep my head straight during that time and she really helped me to see my mom’s parent alliation patterns and tactics. My mom is nothing short of a sociopath in my personal opinion. She would tell my kids you can only truly love one person and that I didn’t love them and didn’t deserve to be loved. That’s why your dads didn’t stand by to raise them or I love drugs more than them etc. That’s when it hit me! My mom had used the same tactics on me when her and my dad split up. My dad froze every thing leaving her with nothing and she would tell me he didn’t love me and he was on drugs etc. I even I potty trained myself and would throw horrible fits for my dad. She couldn’t brake the bond. I was supposed to be at his house the weekend he was murdered and I blamed myself for his death cause had I been there with him he would not have been at the club working that night. I wore that guilt my whole life. Sadly she played on it all the time as well. My dad’s death is still an unsolved murder case that was ruled as a suicide. I have struggled my whole life with mental illness and guilt, shame, feelings of inadequacy, self doubt, and never ever being able to succeed very long at anything. My mom was even able to ruin both of my weddings and in many ways the marriages themselves. When you spoke of the unhealthy attachment to the abuser this struck a cord in me as to why I have put up with her minipulations far into adulthood where now she had to use my children to control me. She refuses any couciling or therapy for my boys as well as me my whole life. We were always moving. I’m sick seeing that I was a victim of this abuse and never given any tools to fight it and then fell pray to her in taking mine from me and hurting them the same way. I do have a relationship with my oldest at all for unknown reasons. My youngest is smart enough to see it at times and hasn’t given up on me but plays to her minipulations and negativity about me. I would do anything to change it all but it’s just too late. Now I’m left with even more guilt and shame and any hope for promise in the future dwendalling down with my unforgiving depression that only tells my boys she was right about everything when she isn’t. This is the result of it all. Not at all where I started this battle. They can’t see the full picture as I do. My oldest is her favorite btw. Anyways thank you for bringing awareness to this syndrome. Maybe it will start to recognize instead of exploiting the loving co parent as crazy.
Children of any age should never be put into a position of choosing between two parents. They are children, they shouldn’t be put into that emotionally breaking decision. It’s not that children can’t be trusted. It’s that they’re children & don’t have the capacity to make adult choices.
Would there be a way to present this valuable information to judges so that they can recognize these behaviors in court when presented?
Working on it! The AAP is trying to attend the AFCC conference in November
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Yes! This!! In my experience, the “professionals” and decision makers need to be more educated… especially regarding psychological, emotional and mental abuse. These types of abuse are so insidious and hard to prove because the scars are on the inside and not in the form of black eyes.
I wish to express my deepest respect for the courageous women who have come forward to share their experiences of severe psychological abuse. It's unimaginable how devastating such abuse can be, especially when inflicted by those who themselves suffered in childhood. As a father separated from his children for over six years, I comprehend the profound impact.
I'd like to clarify a point made by Madi regarding human rights violations. The specific issues she refers to are, more accurately, violations of children's rights. It's a regrettable truth that the United States remains the only country yet to ratify the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC). This pivotal treaty delineates the comprehensive spectrum of children's rights, from civil to cultural, and establishes international standards for their safeguarding. Articles 8 and 9 of the UNCRC are particularly pertinent in this context.
Furthermore, I propose that we amplify the conversation around pathogenic parenting. Despite the media's reluctance to address matters tied to family court, it's crucial to shed light on this topic. The analogy of dental health is apt here: neglecting oral hygiene can lead to cavities, much like ignoring the early signs of familial discord can result in deep-seated conflict. Just as we would consult a dentist to address tooth decay, we must engage mental health professionals to prevent and treat the psychological equivalent. I urge professionals, survivors, children, and affected parents alike to commit to research, assessment, diagnosis and treatment grounded in established knowledge and ethical standards. Let's not merely speak of our pain and the flaws we observe; let's proactively address them. Like brushing our teeth to prevent cavities, let's take preventive measures to avoid the escalation of conflict. In doing so, we can foster healing and promote the well-being of all involved.
😅I am wondering if there is something I can do about two kids age 7 and 4 who are in the process of being used by one parent to alienate the other. That parent keeps telling them that their mother does not love him and that is why he had to leave the house etc etc… Since they are not my children, how can I Help them and save them from the horrific pain that you are describing?
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I'm kind of surprised to hear all of the panel say that their experiences of being raised by the alieantor was abusive and traumatic. I have witnessed my husband get alienated from him kids for the last 10+ years and his child has told him how much he loves his mother and how much she means to him, while telling my husband how worthless he is in his eyes. And, my husband is constantly told that his kids are happy with the way things are, meaning that he's not in their life. I'm just curious if it's even possible to be a loving and supportive parent while being an alieantor?
The alienating parent projects their own abusive behavior on the other parent and/or uses the other parent’s reasonable reactions to their behavior against them and frames them as the problem.
I believed my moms instability and irrational behavior was because of my dad. So her behavior was always justified and he was always to blame. When you don’t get the targeted parents side of the story, or you don’t have the physical or emotional distance needed from the alienating parent a child isn’t safe to even consider that there is any other side than what they’ve been repeatedly told.
I hope your husbands kids will come to a place where they can learn the truth and reconnect with their dad and heal. If those of us ladies on the panel learned the truth and now speak up about it, I believe there is so much hope for other alienated kids to do so as well.
I think that’s because these panel members have actually figured out and processed what has happened to them. Sounds like your step children haven’t done that yet.
I’m sorry I don’t see how to become a member… I would really like to be, and I would like to support this channel and this cause
Do you see a button that says join?
I didn’t see that button when I was looking just a short while ago.
On my screen it's to the right of the title, "The Anti Alienation Project". There should be a button that says "Join". Hopefully that helps.
Madi, could you please confirm the MST time for this event? Your post states 5 PM MST, my Arizona time, but TH-cam shows the event begins at 4:00 PM MST. EST is not a used time zone, as posted on your event premiere. I am confused. I have shared your post with many group members on my FB estranged parents groups; now I am concerned that I have shared the wrong start time which TH-cam shows as 4:00 PM.
Sorry!! It’s 5 pm mst (salt lake city time). I’m so bad with time zones! I hope this doesn’t mess anything up for anyone. The video will be saved so you can watch it anytime you want after the premiere
Arizona does on PST in the summer and MST winter.
They definitely relate to that part about being two different people the public and then the behind closed doors persona my narcissistic abusive mother was like that she treated me horrifically but she had the whole world convinced that she was a loving parent so anytime I would go to someone for help they would be like ohh I'm sure you're exaggerating she loves you they just couldn't be convinced that once they weren't looking she was a literal psychopath but then I never actually fought hard enough to make my case cause I could barely even believe it because I was just a child also caught in her web like they said children will believe whatever they have to to survive when it's not safe to question
The Abuser got 5 cell phones package for the Children with an App to Control, Delete or Reroute any messages Dad would leave. All the children thought this was cool as they had their own phones. The children were taught to turn Dad in when they seen him and they were rewarded for this behavior.
Im a father to a wonderful girl, her mom is collectively working against me to alienate my daught against me. She has my daught living with a alcoholic that has drove a vehicle with her in it while under the influence. My daughter is rewarded with acceptance for rejection and devaluing me as a father. I easily see this power dynamic. Her mothers family often gaslights people, and Ive seen the Triangulation. Pray for my child.
The headache and stomach ache is hurting my child.
My daughter's mother used my child as a weapon.
As an alienated mother, my biggest problem is that my daughter, who was fathered by my stalker & happens to be a very powerful law enforcement officer, Demands that I repeat his terrible lies to her. She was told I was a drug addict a prostitute, dead, you name it. In reality I became a nun and spent my life running a homeless outreach program and helping others. So to have contact with my daughter I must repeat over and over that I'm a dirty little w#ore. I love my daughter so much but I just can't continuously do this. What help can you offer people like me to those that there is no hope of reunification?
There’s too much money that is involved in this issue for their ever to be any change.
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Now we should discuss therapists alienating our children.....telling you child No when they try to stick a fork into the electrical socket, or are running into traffic.... that isn't abuse. But therapists are telling clients, if you're parents EVER used the word no.... you have been abused. 🤷♀️ but then also telling the same young adults that it's ok to chop body parts off their 2 year old. Total insanity
Do you think that you wish someone would of brought this to your attention earlier? Would you have believed them?
It would probably depend heavily on who it was telling them about it, and whether the kid would have the courage to seek the truth and/or risk the “favored” parent’s retaliation.
My kids were made to believe I was dangerous to them and that I didn’t love or want them. So… if a child believes these lies, where does that leave them? Stuck where they are with their broken hearts. And what good would it be to recognize the true nature of the parent they’re dependent on, if they believe they are unwanted by the one they’ve been alienated against? All that would do is cause more mental distress.
It’s all bad… and the worst part of any of it is how much damage and grief the kids suffer.
The shocking thing still is. So few people get it. They think. Ok the kid dislikes one of their parents. What’s the big deal. Like it’s some fad or mood swing that will fade out with time.
It does take a lot of emotional intelligence and foresight to understand the implications and long term consequences - last but not least to our society! - of alienating a vulnerable child.
Problem I have with Ryan Thomas is that he says his program works best for parents recieving a high income.
Then the courses he runs are locked behind high pay walls. Which is great for parents having to pay child support or who are broke. Especially parents who may have lost their jobs from malicious false accusations.
Same with Dorcy Pruter. Fair enough, her retreats have expenses but her courses don't need to be the price they are.
Why do they need to offer a course and set the price so high? There are courses and info you can get for free or low amounts.
In Ryan's case, trying to justify high prices by saying that high income parents do better. That's not a good stance to take, sends a message to all low income parents to give up. Also sends a message that he is more interested about high paying clients. I also question whether it's their income that makes them do better, or their mindset? Because we all know you can throw thousands at the court and end up nowhere.
I understand trying to bring in big money to this for donations. But I can see what you mean as well. People with more money will bring in more donations though. We have non profits at this time trying to create more problems than good.
Our system is going to need that money to correct and update people so our system creates better decisions based on good information not propaganda through half truths and outright lies.
Does it need to be leaving out those that can't afford it? No. I think those that can't afford it can end up being the most victimized by this kind of abuse. They'll be needed to get a better picture of how the system should change.
Its been 5 years since ive seen my 4 kids . so very sad to brainwash your own children. Its never ever our childrens fault. I know exactly whos behind it.
Alienated mother here, I wish you didn't use the mother as example of alienator, hope my son listens to this and can recognise the reversal of roles in his case. Any parent who denies a child access the the other parent must not be mentally well. A healthy parent puts the child's needs first. Further, alienating the child from all the targetted parents' extended family is also evidence of severe alienation.
MADDIE...can I share this sweetie...
of course!
named my dog my dads name so mom would have to say his name, never happen.
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You are overthinking this whole thing. Understandable. Get back to basics and Gods plan for the family. Marriage. between a man an woman[I can't believe I have to say that].Why are children alienated from a parent? Million dollar answer. Divorce. Ok now we are getting somewhere. There is no higher authority than the ONE I am going to quote. Matt 19: 8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. end of quote. Pay attention! I am going somewhere with this. What was the penalty for adultery? Both parties were to be stoned to death. Kinda solved the CUSTODY issue did it not? The surviving spouse got the children and could remarry. Also unrepentant adulterers will not INHERIT the Kingdom of God.1 Cor.6:9. So divorce but WORSE the ADULTERY that follows leads to hell!!.Enter the 1960s and NO FAULT divorce laws. Society changed for the worse. The head of every man is Christ the head of the woman is her husband. God forbids a woman from usurping power over her husband using the wicked court system. Needless to say Hell hath enlarged itself since the 60s and "no fault divorce" laws and wicked judges and lawyers .No divorces granted. No adultery. No Child custody issues. Happy safe children not used as weapons and merchandise by evil women. These three things are paramount!!
You are crazy