My husband and I read the KJV Holy Bible together cover to cover in just a few months. Then he read it 3 additional times through out the remainder of the year on his own. Now he reads it everyday. There's no way it's not true. Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God
@@kabuuj3400 No, the Trinity is a pagan doctrine from many ancient nations, before the birth of Jesus Christ. The Father has a name, Yahweh and the son has a name, Jesus Christ, but the Holy Spirit does not have a name and is not a God, but the dynamic energy force from the Father. Yahweh is not Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is not Yahweh, the both have different meanings to their names. Jesus is Yahweh's first born of all creation and his only begotten son. Pagan Roman Catholicism adopted the pagan trinity doctrine to appease the pagan Romans to convert to Roman Catholicism, so they adopted many of pagan Romes pagan customs. To be in the circle club of acceptance, making the big bucks in Christendom, these network public platform preachers, pastors, have to expound the pagan Trinity doctrine and the pagan mythological Hellfire doctrine. Frank Turec, Benny Hinn, Pat Robertson, former Bill Graham, Kenneth Copeland, just to name a few of the many. It's big business paying no taxes on income and Real Estate. So to get ahead you have to get along or be ostracized. Frank Turec is a millionaire, like they all are. I won't even mentioned Joel Osteen. HOW ANCIENT TRINITARIAN GODS INFLUENCED ADOPTION OF THE TRINITY. Many who believe in the Trinity are surprised, perhaps shocked, to learn that the idea of divine beings existing as trinities or triads long predated Christianity. Yet, as we will see, the evidence is abundantly documented. Marie Sinclair, Countess of Caithness, in her 1876 book Old Truths in a New Light, states: "It is generally, although erroneously, supposed that the doctrine of the Trinity is of Christian origin. Nearly every nation of antiquity possessed a similar doctrine. [The early Catholic theologian] St. Jerome testifies unequivocally, 'All the ancient nations believed in the Trinity'" (p. 382). Notice how the following quotes document belief in a divine trinity in many regions and religions of the ancient world. Sumeria "The universe was divided into three regions each of which became the domain of a god. Anu's share was the sky. The earth was given to Enlil. Ea became the ruler of the waters. Together they constituted the triad of the Great Gods" (The Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology, 1994, pp. 54-55) Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.' "Hence the triangle was adopted by all the ancient nations as a symbol of the Deity . . . Three was considered among all the pagan nations as the chief of the mystical numbers, because, as Aristotle remarks, it contains within itself a beginning, a middle, and an end. Hence we find it designating some of the attributes of almost all the pagan gods" (Sinclair, pp. 382-383). Greece "In the Fourth Century B.C. Aristotle wrote: 'All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity'" (Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198). Egypt "The Hymn to Amun decreed that 'No god came into being before him (Amun)' and that 'All gods are three: Amun, Re and Ptah, and there is no second to them. Hidden is his name as Amon, he is Re in face, and his body is Ptah.' . . . This is a statement of trinity, the three chief gods of Egypt subsumed into one of them, Amon. Clearly, the concept of organic unity within plurality got an extraordinary boost with this formulation. Theologically, in a crude form it came strikingly close to the later Christian form of plural Trinitarian monotheism" (Simson Najovits, Egypt, Trunk of the Tree, Vol. 2, 2004, pp. 83-84). Other areas Many other areas had their own divine trinities. In Greece they were Zeus, Poseidon and Adonis. The Phoenicians worshipped Ulomus, Ulosuros and Eliun. Rome worshipped Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto. In Germanic nations they were called Wodan, Thor and Fricco. Regarding the Celts, one source states, "The ancient heathen deities of the pagan Irish[,] Criosan, Biosena, and Seeva, or Sheeva, are doubtless the Creeshna [Krishna], Veeshnu [Vishnu], [or the all-inclusive] Brahma, and Seeva [Shiva], of the Hindoos" (Thomas Maurice, The History of Hindostan, Vol. 2, 1798, p. 171). "The origin of the conception is entirely pagan" Egyptologist Arthur Weigall, while himself a Trinitarian, summed up the influence of ancient beliefs on the adoption of the Trinity doctrine by the Catholic Church in the following excerpt from his previously cited book: "It must not be forgotten that Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon [the Trinity], and nowhere in the New Testament does the word 'Trinity' appear. The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord; and the origin of the conception is entirely pagan . . . "The ancient Egyptians, whose influence on early religious thought was profound, usually arranged their gods or goddesses in trinities: there was the trinity of Osiris, Isis, and Horus, the trinity of Amen, Mut, and Khonsu, the trinity of Khnum, Satis, and Anukis, and so forth . . . "The early Christians, however, did not at first think of applying the idea to their own faith. They paid their devotions to God the Father and to Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and they recognized the mysterious and undefined existence of the Holy Spirit; but there was no thought of these three being an actual Trinity, co-equal and united in One . . . "The application of this old pagan conception of a Trinity to Christian theology was made possible by the recognition of the Holy Spirit as the required third 'Person,' co-equal with the other 'Persons' . . . "The idea of the Spirit being co-equal with God was not generally recognized until the second half of the Fourth Century A.D. . . . In the year 381 the Council of Constantinople added to the earlier Nicene Creed a description of the Holy Spirit as 'the Lord, and giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and Son together is worshipped and glorified.' . . . "Thus, the Athanasian creed, which is a later composition but reflects the general conceptions of Athanasius [the 4th-century Trinitarian whose view eventually became official doctrine] and his school, formulated the conception of a co-equal Trinity wherein the Holy Spirit was the third 'Person'; and so it was made a dogma of the faith, and belief in the Three in One and One in Three became a paramount doctrine of Christianity, though not without terrible riots and bloodshed . . . "Today a Christian thinker . . . has no wish to be precise about it, more especially since the definition is obviously pagan in origin and was not adopted by the Church until nearly three hundred years after Christ" (pp. 197-203). James Bonwick summarized the story well on page 396 of his 1878 work Egyptian Belief and Modern Thought: "It is an undoubted fact that more or less all over the world the deities are in triads. This rule applies to eastern and western hemispheres, to north and south. "Further, it is observed that, in some mystical way, the triad of three persons is one. The first is as the second or third, the second as first or third, the third as first or second; in fact, they are each other, one and the same individual being. The definition of Athanasius, who lived in Egypt, applies to the trinities of all heathen religions."
@@NobleMindedBereans Satan always copy Biblical God so if God is 3-personal then devil for sure will have 3-personal gods in his mitologies. I will use Scriptures to prove that Holy Spirit is the God: But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto GOD. Acts 5:3-4 KJV In verse 3 Peter said that Ananias lied to Holy Spirit In verse 4 Peter said that Ananias lied to God I'm sure you will not say that Peter is wrong for calling Holy Ghost: God And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the HOLY GHOST by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: Acts 28:25-26 KJV Paul said that Holy Ghost spoke by Isaiah to his fathers, but what is written in Isaiah? Also I heard the voice of the LORD, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Isaiah 6:8-9 KJV Well, according to Isaiah 6 and Acts 28 Lord and Holy Ghost is the same person or Paul is wrong.
Unfortunately the majority are trying to be saviours, the minority have found a saviour. For not everyone that calls themselves Christians are christians, only those who have truly trusted Christ as their personal Saviour.
Very well said! I quit using the word Christian quite a long time ago. It can mean anything you want it to mean. I generally call myself a follower of Christ.
@@Philthefisherofmen same here. I also like to spite them further by saying I believe in the God that Isaiah prophecied would manifest, then John his contemporary confirmed.
We are husband and wife truck drivers. We listen to your videos all the time all over the country to prepare for loading dock or truck stop evangelism. I LOVE the way you teach.
I had been in a same sex relationship since I was 16, I am currently 41 (sheesh time flies) in 2017 God woke me up, there was NOTHING any man or woman could have told me to get me out. I am SURE people prayed for me, but it was coming to God via the Flat Earth ( i know I know most aren't with that, but that's how I came to Christ) that pulled me out of that lifestyle. I am at my happiest when I am living for Christ, and not for myself.
My man! Flat earth brought me to Christ, too!! Regardless of whether or not it's actually true (even tho I think it is) I had to ask myself, if this were true what would that mean? I had to consider the possibility that I was front and center stage in God's universe and that my life was far more significant and important to a God who was watching and really paying attention. I was no longer a highly evolved monkey clinging to a small, spinning dirt ball in an huge, nihilistic and meaningless universe. It both exalted and humbled me. I knew I had to get right with a God who was much closer or more personal to me than I had ever imagined. And that led me directly to the cross. Praise Jesus!
Being Gay isn't a sin! God has made each of us to be who he needs us too be! Reading the 6 clobber passages with a proper historical sociological context as well as a proper translation of the Greek Hebrew. You then realize. I understand that same-sex relationships as we think of them. Today between 2 consenting, adults on a level playing field was not a concept In the first century They focused on dominance and who was being penetrated or not
”He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.“ Isaiah 40:22 NIV
@@blahblah27pizza 😂 come on man… Can’t I give my testimony without you doing that. Never mind the flat earth, can you just be happy that I am part of the body of Christ? God uses different ways to draw in His people, that was just the way He got my attention. I don’t understand some people…. Also, YES those who believe the earth is flat also know this verse in Isaiah, you should that that back to the Hebrew, circle is Chug(khug) it means vault, and to draw around, a circle. Circle is 2D, a ball is a 3D “rotation” of said circle. Say you took a coin and spun it, the spinning motion creates a visual ball (illusion) anyway, I pray we can be kind to each other about this. If you are a Christian then we are siblings and I don’t fight with the Body of Christ.
One of my favorite apologist. So happy we have ppl like him and others who defend the word of God with incredible accuracy and boldness. May God continuously rise up ppl like this and may God be eternally be pleased with ppl like Pastor Frank. As a Christian I’m sure I and others are learning a lot from them. Thank you Lord for giving us ppl like Frank and I pray you give him and others like him more wisdom, knowledge, patience, strength, protection, and blessings forevermore. Hallelujah praise the living God!
I like listening to Frank also, but he is all wrong about the pagan eternal torture Hellfire doctrine and the pagan Trinity doctrine (three Gods in one God.)
Frank lied about Hawkins believing in god, he called out for lying during his debate with Hitchens, he uses fallacies more then any other appoliset I listen to, he hasn't had a good argument for anything. The best appoligest Christians have is Mike Licona, at least he isn't afraid to correct Turek and his buddy Wallace when they both constantly toss out nonsense.
I can't describe how happy i am to hear that muslims are giving testimonies of Jesus reaching out to them in a dream or vision. I"M SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. Please God continue to reach out to people from all around the world.
The Bible/Torah/Koran was not handed to mankind by god, nor was it dictated to human stenographers by any gods. It has nothing to do with gods. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of a god by a group of men during the 4th century; and the Koran was just the copied and demented dogma of a selfish and petty despot....
@@briendoyle4680 I was a child of God at 20, at 30 I sat in my office and said there is no God as none of my senses ever experience Him and decided to become a hardcore atheist, no morals because its irrelevant then. Remember it was just a though but one that was very intense and going to change my life. 10 min later 2 woman I have never seen before or after walked into my office closed the door and said: Jesus have sent us with an urgent message for you: That I (me) am never alone, even if it feels like it and that He will never forsake me, even if it feels like it, they stood up and walked out again, never to be seen. THATS HOW I KNOW THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB IS REAL. Not one atheist could ever explain that visit away......It is weird that a visit so impossible happenned on the back of a story that was voted in 1600 years ago.......I dont think so...........The Bible is His word to us, yes there are more books that are not in the Bible but none of them takes away from the core message.
My little brother committed suicide in 2005 and it turned my world upside down- with my family especially. I wrote Rick Warren dhring that time of trauma and just wicked, wicked behaviors from my Christian parents and he responded with the longest, sweetest email of the greatest comfort. I will never forget that kindness.♡
Strange Ive never thought of the idea that they could’ve disproven “Christianity “ by finding Messiahs body. Simple, obvious but powerful. The greatest archaeological evidence...there was no body! Yes. Hallelujah 💕
00:30 Shrowd of Turin 2:38 Pontius Pilate validation 3:03 Discussion of the importance of not finding Jesus body. 4:34 Freewill/ predestination discussion. Knowledge and Causality 6:33 Reconciling love ones being damned while you worship the person that damn them. 15:51 Young/old earth 24:02 Challenges for the church in the next 10 years 28:56 homosexuality question 39:30 Revival? 42:22 Book of Leviticus 44:52Progressive Christians 48:32 Do you think we are in the end times 51:49 Jesus died for my sins… I got a free pass to sins 52:13 Ontological arguments 54:06 moral judgments 56:35 Majestic heaven/natural world 1:30:55 Why don’t we stone people anymore 1:08:16 Why were the catholic books removed from the Bible 1:08:41 Right wing Christian 1:11:38 The book irresistible
Hmm, A question the world should ask more often...Why don't we stone people to death anymore? Having to answer this question tells us everything we need to know about Chrisitanity!
@@ChurchofReason14 looool because god also says be merciful like your god is merciful the reason it was in the law was to show how serious sin was to god and to make sure the law was fulfilled
@@ChurchofReason14 ya for the Jews the rules were more strick because they had to be different from everyone around them and lol well morality isnt subjective because if it wasn't i would create my own morals by influencing the mass. Remember the whole world is counting on Jews to get there things together
"the things that we see were created of the things we don't see". People don't actually realize how scientifically accurate that statement is. Literally, describing atoms.
@@slevinchannel7589 strange how you say that the Bible speaks of a hateful God, when the most repeated phrase (in various forms) within the Bible is "the LORD, the LORD God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in covenant love" And that's in the Old Testament!
@@EthanDyTioco Yea, its almost like your coping with excuses, isnt it? And most christians kinddaaa know this and i dont even speak of the mass-LEAVING, the DROVES of christians who leveae the church because your so f-ing hateful IImagine thinking the bible oftne repeating 'GOD IS LOOVEEEEE' makes God loving, iagine being this silly. Even your fellow christians would blatant laugh at you. Oh, wait, wer dont have to speculate, i hshould rephrase this: CHRISTIANS ARE LAUGHING AT YOU, CHRISTIANS ARE LEAVING YOUR GROUP, CHRISTIANS ARE ASHAMED OF CHRISTIANITY EMBARASING-ITSELF
@El Taffy There's actually a lot of evidence of God's existence. But just out of curiosity, why all the hostility? You came to a Christian apologist video only to name call. Seems kind of petty to me.
@El Taffy "Being petty is the very least I can do, only wish it was far more" Of course. My apologies. I didn't realize having different opinions based on how people ought to run the world is just cause for stooping to petty insults. THAT is what is wrong with society. Instead of engaging in respectful discussion in an attempt to understand people with different opinions, most people just take the easy way out and stoop to petty insults, kinda like children do. But lets get to the main issue. "Religion separates families and communities." Really? Yeah, that's called having a different opinion. Religion isn't the only thing that does that. Politics and different ideologies, values, and worldviews. They all cause people to disagree, religious or not. But that isn't what actually separates families and communities. It is being INTOLERANT of other peoples opinions and beliefs. And that intolerance turning to hate. That is what separates people. And religious people can sometimes be guilty of this... and so can secular people. You seem quite intolerant of Christianity right now. "provides reasons for discrimination, bigotry, homophobia, racism, exceptionalism, anti-science, criminality and reality, need I go on" I can't speak for other religions, but Christianity does not discriminate at all. It just teaches that some things people like are actually sinful. That is different from discrimination. As for your anti science claim, I have no idea what your talking about. There are plenty of scientists who believe in God. Science and belief in God don't contradict. And finally, here is why NONE of what we are talking about matters anyway if you are an atheist. If atheism is true and God doesn't exist, objective morality can't exist either. Which means morality is subjective, meaning everything is just a matter of opinion/personal preference. And if that's the case, you can't accuse anything of being immoral/evil. Raci$m, bigotry, etc. According to atheism, none of that is really wrong anyway if morality is subjective. It's just your personal preference if you don't like that stuff. So what are you complaining about?
Atheist-Channel deserve to be Heard. They have valid questions to ask and valid criticism to make. Sometimes both at once. If you always ignore that, guess what: Yes-Sayers is what you surround yourself with. Challenges is what you Avoid. Problems are what you ignore. Criticism is what you ignore hard - and we all know thats super-duper-healthy-tastic!!
Thank you Frank really appreciated your careful, truth and grace filled responses It's given me more confidence and conviction in knowing how I can approach both friends, Church Members and those in my community as we have conversations about Jesus and the issues of our time. God Bless and I hope to be at one of your trainings soon with my wife.
@@JamesRichardWiley Thanks With respect to Frank The conviction of my beliefs don't come from Frank. Just like anyone pursuing how to act well and graciously with others you sometimes need to step back and be challenged by the way others approach the same topic. I found this one helpful> Wishing you well
@@jermaineedwards7157 If you ever do meet Frank, could you ask him this question on my behalf _"The Bible says it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. You're a multi-millionaire. Isn't it time you practice what you preach and follow the Bible's instruction of selling what you own and giving to the poor?"_ He won't of course. I just wanted to point out how uncomfortable he is with his own beliefs.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 I think you are grasping here.. God does not instruct to sell what you have and give to the poor. There was an opportunity given by Jesus to a single person in Matthew Chapter 19 to expose that the money was his God, not God himself. God gave Job more wealth than most any man on earth. Same with Solomon. You should actually read the Bible and then make a conclusion. It's easy to criticize others, but difficult to criticize yourself.
@@thirst4wisdomAh, the inevitable Christian excuses when anomalies are found in their religion, lol, that's new. The Bible does indeed say Jesus told his followers _“If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell what thou hast and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in Heaven; and come and follow Me.”_
I continually thank God for your Life Frank and pray for more people like you. May we all learn more and become more efficient at sharing the gospel and answering people question.
Watch atheist-channel: Jesus would blush if he knew you only listen to ONLY YOUR BELIEF and nothing else, like a fool who drinks water from just one source. Echo-Chamber much??
Americans don't understand real Christianity. _"Sell what you own and give to the poor"_ is what Jesus taught. Not _"Sell to TH-camrs and make yourself a multi-millionaire."_ Americans don't know what real Christianity even is.
When i fell in love with God....i wanted to give up everything... it didn't matter. I wanted to please God..convicted by the holy spirit All i wanted to do was change...i was crying constantly....i couldn't take the conviction anymore
@@JamesRichardWiley Atheist-Channel deserve to be Heard. They have valid questions to ask and valid criticism to make. Sometimes both at once. If you always ignore that, guess what: Yes-Sayers is what you surround yourself with. Challenges is what you Avoid. Problems are what you ignore. Criticism is what you ignore hard - and we all know thats super-duper-healthy-tastic!!
One thing Dr Turek said that needs to be clarified. When Jesus was nailed on the cross, not one of his bones was broken. John 19:34. This is a miracle in itself how God watched His word to perform it. Jeremiah 1:12.
How I wish Frank had been there to explain sexual immorality to me when I was young. Man, it could have saved so much pain and damage! (Mind you I probably wouldn’t have listened to a word)
@Justin Gary Justin, please stop spamming my posts. I’ve seen this identical (extremely long) comment on a number of my replies now and on many others. It is not the way to promote yourself and is extremely rude. Again, in love, please stop!
I hear you! I have the exact same thing, and I wouldn't have listened either. You know, God knows what He is doing, and He knew the time and place and way to reach you to turn to Him. I pray that He will use your pain and damage for something good. God doesn't do left overs. I firmly believe that He can use every scar and tear in our lives, either to heal us so deep that leads to a way richer knowledge of Him that without those hurt it may even not have been possible to, or to be a powerful witness to the people around you. Your transformation is huge, people will see that. Bless Him!
@@Potamotrygorgeous Thank you brother (I hear you). I am so grateful that God has removed the yoke of guilt that I carried in the pit of my stomach (felt like I’d swallowed a grapefruit), it had been there all my life and I thought it was just a normal physiological part of being human and everyone had one! It has gone these past ten years and I praise Him every day.I lived a privileged and blessed life as a young man but abused myself and so many women always looking for the next conquest. I was married with two small children but that didn’t stop me, I thought I was a secret Casanova, fooling everyone! But all I was really doing; was storing up God’s wrath and my behaviour eventually destroyed everything I had! I’m so glad that it did, sorry for the pain I caused and joyful that He used my experience to lead me to Him. Many blessings brother (I think I may have overshared! 🤣)
You had and have the Father and his son Jesus Christ explain sexual immorality to you in the Bible, which is very clear. Frank is just a mere imperfect sinful human being who teaches pagan doctrines like the eternal Hellfire torture doctrine and the pagan Trinity doctrine. (Three Gods in one God.) When judgment comes, Frank will not be there pleading for you, we will all be judged just like Frank Turec will be judged. We will each be judged individually. I like Frank Turec and like listening to him, but he is all wrong about the pagan mythological eternal Hellfire doctrine and the pagan Trinity doctrine, as both are false pagan doctrines. There is plenty of TH-cam videos explaining the pagan origination of eternal Hellfire and the pagan trinity doctrine, to obtain a quick reference. You can google these pagan doctrines also.
They will never find the body of Christ. He is risen to eternal glory! Thank you Lord for your sacrifice. John 11:24 Jesus said I am the Resurrection and the life. I am humbled and grateful to my Lord forever.
It’s good to recognize and appreciate the gifts God has given us in our brothers. Much that was shared is helpful It’s also very important to recognize when someone begins leaning on their own understanding and siding with worldly philosophies at the cost of what the Word of God clearly teaches. If you begin to doubt the clear accounts and doctrines of God you are heading down a slippery slope of deception and spiritual blindness.(Pride) I appreciate all these men offer and at the same time I can call out (as we are called to do) the areas in which they stray from the plain reading of foundational truth. Grace and peace
@@JRyder24 Another challenge is for people like Frank Turek to show accounting records proving that all money he makes from selling Christianity goes to the poor instead of himself.
@@TonyEnglandUK Its all a scam, man. It is so sad and dishonest. These people are making so much money off of other peoples ignorance. It's hard to watch.
1:08:10 *Martin Luther didn't remove them, protestant Bible still have the deuterocanonical books, but the “British and Foreign Bible Society” (founded in 1804) removed the deuterocanonical books just opting for the Hebrew Canon in 1826. This decision broke with the tradition of Myles Coverdale, of consolidating the Apocrypha between the two Testaments. They reasoned that by not printing the secondary material of Apocrypha within the Bible, the scriptures would prove to be less costly to produce.* The Apocrypha are included in the lectionaries of the Lutheran Churches and the Anglican Churches. In the present day, "English Bibles with the Apocrypha are becoming more popular again", usually being printed as intertestamental books.
The Lord spoke to me "Enoch" and the "Rapture" 3 years ago. Many are having dreams also as the Bible speaks in the "last days". Personally I do not believe it will be long at all now. I don't think, considering what's going on in the world, it could last too long anyway! I appreciate what was shared here and God bless you both. Maranatha!
00:26:46 “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ~ Thomas Sowell
Wow just wow, can’t believe he is saying people send themselves to hell and want to be there, absolutely the dumbest thing I have heard. Who in there right mind wants to be burned alive forever and ever Seriously crazy. A more accurate analogy would be a guy trying to pursue a girl and when she says no he says well I won’t force you to be with me so I’m going to torture you in my basement since I love you I won’t force you.
@@CalvinR90 Our only hope is in God's/Jesus Christ's Grace and Mercy. Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? Romans 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
This is the most important question for man. Your answer is the difference between salvation and condemnation. Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26
1. Believe in Jesus. One God 2. Repent 3. Be baptized in Jesus Name, fully submerged in water 4. Receive the Holy Spirit with an evidence of speaking in tongues. 5. Live a holy life, in prayer, fasting, being like Jesus. It is all very clear in Bible. Love you people
If we start allegorizing or spiritualizing scripture then when does it end? Is the virgin birth spiritual or is the crucifixion spiritual or even the resurrection? It's a slippery slope and will cause confusion. The Best way to interperate the Bible is literal and grammatical unless the context gives you permission through context to do otherwise.
It's so easy for people to try to do God's work for Him . Also they know what is the only right church and right Bible translation and all the important means of being a child of God
@@matthewclay6535 this guy partnered with mosques and Muslim leaders to try to bridge the gap between Christianity and Islam, and teaching that Allah and God are the same
Thanks Chip on your comments about homosexuality. This has become such a social driven subject. I doubt anyone today doesn't have a connection to this community. I really want the church to be more loving to them. I believe with all my heart that we love them to God and he will do the rest. I know that as I got stronger with my faith many sins dropped away without my conscious recognition . I won't deny that I believe it isn't part of God's plan but God wants us to love all people despite their sins.
“We can ignore even pleasure. But pain insists upon being attended to. God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is his megaphone to rouse a deaf world.” ― C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
Frank, it's very important for believers to be continually reminded of two highly important doctrines of: 1) God's discipline on His believers, when they remain in sin and/or fail to confess their sins, AND, 2) The Christian judgment, which is ONLY for reward & loss thereof (1Cor. 3:11-15), which is based on each Christian's growth & responding obedience to learned Scripture. Few teachers consistently add brief overviews of these doctrines which go a long way in fending off the common widespread error of Christians, which is that they must maintain the salvation that Christ ALONE provides. Thanks. .
Continually reminded - yup, that's God. My godless reality confronts me each morning so I don't need to be continually reminded that my godless reality exists.
@@JamesRichardWiley - Yeah, most hot blooded humans do the same thing, but that's just to help them assuage their guilt for over-indulgence in whatever feels good. The ONLY valid alternative to UN-provable evolution pseudosciences, which a majority thinks lends credence to their rejection of The God written about in ancient texts, over millennia, by 40 authors of 66 books that "strangely coalesce", as if ONE. Over the years, I've learned that said rejection merely reflects the fact that the majority rejects serious, HONEST investigation into the claims of many thousands of intelligent people over millennia, whose first choice was NOT to know more about The God that all people know exists. Your rejection in no manner helps prove that you are correct in your fake assumption. I say "fake", because no intelligent person actually believes that living organisms came into existence by so called "natural process", which remains entirely conjectural. .
There are resurrections, but one of the differences is u know where their bones are when they're alive & when the die the final time. But Jesus is alive, his bones are with him in Heaven!
@@travelsouthafrica5048 I don't wear masks and I'm not forced to take a vaccine either? But yes, first world free countries are not oppressively forced to do anything. We have freedom to make our choices so long as it does not harm another person or infringe on anothers freedom. The same cannot be said for China. Equally, poor countries have always had greater populations of religious. Few attributable reasons; lack of education, an escape, fear etc. Ample studies show these to be true.
Hats off to Frank, comming back with a crystal clear aside after that looooong beat around the bush by Pastor Chip, with all due respect, regarding homosexuality.
Yet Frank doesn't point out that no multi-millionaire is going to enter the kingdom of heaven. Any idea why he doesn't? He is, after all, a multi-millionaire.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 What now? What Bible are reading? Or are you just making up verses in the Bible? Jesus said that it would be hard, not impossible, for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 Jesus said: "With man, it is impossible. With God, nothing is impossible." Thank God, we are saved through faith by the grace of Jesus Christ. BTW, I believe properity preachers are not of God. They will be judged by Him for leading many astray and robbing widows. Frank is not among them. But going back to my original point, Pastor Chip seems that he tiptoes around truth. We dob't need to be ugly and condemnatory, but we must speak the truth. Sis is sin.
@@j.peaceo1031 lol hello? Over here? Jesus: _“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”_
I didn't realize how tall Frank Turek is until he stood up and saw him on stage next to the moderator. The gentleman moderating is very smart, sharp and knowledgeable.
@@klugermann5806 There's nothing wrong with Andy Stanley's church. People who have theological differences with him run around saying he's a false teacher or some kind of a new age heretic. This new age Christianity are his accusers, who think "if your scriptural interpretation doesn't match mine, then you are false and commit heresy." Ignore the slander.
Pre-ordination by way of Free Will is a thing that people can chase their tails on in explanation. It is a paradox in and of itself. God knows how we will walk and what we will do so he calls our actions before we commit them. Which on the same note being that his word does not return void, because he spoke it so it is. One of the beautiful complexities found in the truth of God.
At 20:45 claming that "...ALLAH, KEN HAM and those TYPES OF PEOPLE" is in fact an Ad Hominem fallacy... the use of this tactic make people wonder if the speaker has been honest or it's just a lack of argumentation. But one thing is true, making fun of other christian brothers is a shame on this ministry.
I love the extent they go to undermine the Bible by saying the first two chapters of Genesis are not true history. If that were true what was Jesus referring to when He said, "Haven't you read..."? If it was just allegory you could not refer to it as the beginning.
@John Paul LOL, is that supposed to be an argument? "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God (1 Corinthians 1:18)." I will pray for you and that your heart encounters the living God before your mockery leads you to an eternity where you will be forgotten.
Absolutely and believing in evolution puts death before sin. But if death is wages of sin, we would have a weird contradiction and therefore Jesus's death would be in vain. That is why Genesis matters!
Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good! The Lord looks down from heaven on the entire human race; he looks to see if anyone is truly wise, if anyone seeks God. But no, all have turned away; all have become corrupt. No one does good, not a single one! Psalms 14:1-3
Anytime you want to let us know what God is, how to detect it, etc., we'll be listening. Or you could keep quoting verses without demonstrating anything. Your call.
@@drumrnva Well i could go deeper into this with the cosmological argument and it proves that there has to be a God out there. That space, matter, and time had to be created. In fact eistein confirmed this on the theory of relativity. So whatever created space matter and time has to be, spaceless, timeless, immaterial, personal, why personal? In order to choose to create something, and powerful. These point the existance outside of the universe. I could go into other arguments but this is the most scientific based one.
When you read Genesis one and then move through to Genesis 10 and really read and understand and believe it for what it says, it's impossible to deduce anything other than a six day creation and the addition of the genealogies it's nearly impossible to get anything other than around 6000 years. Why should I care about what Chip believes? How can he seduce people into believing in deep time?
Well if you logically want to think about it, there is no reason to assume our dating of this planet is even accurate. Nor could we even assume how the Earth came to be, because we are not able to recreate the event and test it over and over again like real science would do. Since we cant really test the theory, there is no real reason to believe it. That if you want to be very logical about the current situation. So God making everything 6,000 years ago could be possible, and the incest at that early stage could have lead to our current state of mankind. Who really knows, no one really.
@@SilenceDogwood. Yes, Chris, yes we can. Good Atheist-Channels exist a lot: 'Genetically Modified Sceptic' and 'Belief it or not' and if you can take 'less polite' fellas (cause they are more 'direct', which isnt negative nor positive in itself): 'Viced Rhino'!
When God saves someone, no one says no to God, Jesus says He loses none of all that The Father gives Him, if that's was the case He loses way more than He Saves, Jesus is not a weak begger but a powerful Savior.
We know in Canada that Jesus is coming back soon...is it in my time or 50 years from now i dont know...i believe its very very soon..myself...just a feeling❤❤❤❤❤
1:03 Reproduction is really incredible. I can't state anything really because I forgot it, one day I have to learn it I think but now.... All those receptors and reactions and molecules and what happens and even cilia are involved and.... Just incredible
@@bones2614 yes let's just trust the scientists who come up with postulates after postulates disapproving the previous ones with a much better to fit their bill i.e, this is just a random accident. Your argument is as presumptuous as mine, considering that you believe scientists who have nothing to prove except that all there exists in the universe..
@@bones2614 religion pretending to know everything? Not even a single religious book tend to explain how the universe is formed in detail. Infact religious ppl give the benefit of doubt to God, hoping that since we cannot have answers to all the mysteries and how this universe was made by God, let's just stop assuming things by taking the present state of affairs as a control to *assume ' conditions back when universe was created by assuming big bang , by assuming evolution and filling in the missing gaps according to their biases that fits into their theory.
@@bones2614 refining ideas only comes from accepting that the base theory was true in all of its sense. Which means the scientists should literally be there when the universe was created to give such a solid unequivocal theory about the formation of universe. The fact that they are complacent in putting some other theories to test is a dishonest, biased, approach to understand what is at hand.
@@bones2614 fact of population genetics! A totally different Species coming from another species! Evidence indicates big bang and evolution.? Too many definitive statements. I wonder why don't you put to test the same evidence pattern in understanding the historical existence of Jesus christ.
Over 90% of people who don't believe that God exists have already said OMG, but it makes perfect sense, think about it, O = amazement caused by the beauty they see, M = My, because He Is Our , we were Created In His Image .
The Fall of Adam is an allegorical mythical tale made up by unknown authors to explain human suffering. The narrative assumes a Creator God that appears from nowhere, creates a perfect world then changes His tune and decides to destroy what He created. It's a story of schizophrenia that is present in the human brain.
Looking back on my life I always felt there was a God----I don't remember wondering or searching God out. I lived an on again off again sinful life for many years. Then Jesus revealed Himself to me through the Holy Spirit! He talked with me, explained things to me and from that day on I was never the same. The best way I can describe our interaction is telepathy. After that, and the way my life was never the same doesn't mean my life was awesome. I experienced miracles and Divine interventions a lot and felt an inner peace like never before. Over the years the Lord has been preparing me for end day events. He said I was a soldier in His army and there were many more like me. I believe one day He will gather us together to fight the evil in this world. Of course all guided by the Holy Spirit and we will fulfill our individual purposes while here on earth. One day Jesus will come in the clouds to gather us together and take us to heaven!! A day I can't wait for but know I have to wait for. God bless you all
Y would God need a long time to create the Earth? God doesn’t need any help to do anything, he doesn’t need an assist from time to grow anything. He created the world in 6 days and that’s what the Bible says. Jesus said “In 3 days I will rebuild the temple.” Was that over a long period too or was that 3 actual days?
A comment from Chip referring to Satan saying, "Did God really say..." and then saying that if you throw out God's word we have nothing. I had a debate once with a person over whether Jesus encountered Satan after 40 days in the wilderness or not. This person said something like it was a metaphorical story and didn't really happen. I said no it was real and that this person was like Satan by saying, "Did God really say....". Satan was casting doubt on God's word, the person I was debating was casting doubt on God's word. I pointed out that this story was in 3 Gospels and therefore was part of the "2 or 3 witnesses to establish truth". The guy got all huffy and accused me of calling him Satan which was not true, I was just saying he was like Satan. Wolves come in many guises.
Atheist-Channel deserve to be Heard. They have valid questions to ask and valid criticism to make. Sometimes both at once. If you always ignore that, guess what: Yes-Sayers is what you surround yourself with. Challenges is what you Avoid. Problems are what you ignore. Criticism is what you ignore hard - and we all know thats super-duper-healthy-tastic!!
The wolf in satan in him; all invisible except him. It’s the Spirit of God talking through a believer to the man who has a another spirit. Our fight is not against flesh and blood.
This is very important what I'm going to say here so listen up. If you don't know and study what the Bible says about how old the Earth is then just say it's not my expertise.. I haven't studied enough. The bible explains and talks about exactly how many years it was from Adam and Eve to Jesus Christ there is a timeline mathematical that cannot be refuted. Because it goes from Human to Human it's a genealogy of Jesus Christ bloodline from Adam and Eve to him so if you believe the Bible is true then that timeline goes to Jesus Christ. And that timeline was: 4000 years went past till Jesus was here and it's been 2000 years since his death roughly. So that equals around six thousand years if you don't believe this then you're saying the Bible is a lie. There is no debate, It says exactly how long one person lived till the next person and that person lived this long and begot shim and sham begot so-and-so.. and on and on.. it's a mathematical fact and its genealogy that was recorded. So if you or anyone says that it's not right or if somebody Didn't Do Right or added something then you're saying the Bible is false, and if that's false the whole Bible is false. You can't have some truth and some lies..its eaither all right or its all wrong. So if you believe what the Bible says the world is around 6,000 years old, the dinosaurs walked here 4000 years ago, they died after the flood everybody killed them till they were extinct as soon as they got off that boat probaly. The oxygen levels were higher Before the Flood and the bad UV rays were blocked by a sheet of ice that was up in the atmosphere -a firmament above the firmament or ground. it was like a greenhouse that's why they lived 900 years old so if you don't know what you're talkin about then just say I don't know. but now you know. And one more thing is theres no such thing as evolution because if its so than that means the Bibles a lie to because you had death before sin. By that i mean you had animals dieing untill finally they became a man...so that death before man..and the bible says its man than death. What brought death? Sin. So the man was here before death. Anybody who says or believes there was ANY SUCH THING as death before man is teaching deception and its important more than anything because if Satan can get everyone beliving the Bibles a lie hes got them. All Hes tryin to do is create doubt. Thats why you must understand there is no such thing as millions or billions of years...nor is there death before a man.
@@ismaelmelville47 my friend..none of it is wrong. Pray to Jesus Christ and ask Him to show you. Dont say in your heart you know anything but instead just simply ask Him. Tell Jesus if its all true to show you. If He is God He can do it. If not than you will know. But ask. If you dont ask you will be accountable. Read the Bible from front to back. Let Him show you. And again if you dont than you will be accountable because you had the chance. But please clear your mind of any hate or preconditioned thinking. Make your own decision and dont listen to no one except what Jesus shows you. Read it.
@@IMPORTANTVIDEOS7 I don't hate things that are not real. Parts of the Bible are clearly wrong and as you say all of it is therefore untrue. Cannot agree more. The earth is not flat, the sun does not revolve around the earth. 2 of every animal is not a viable population for survival. Mostly the natural world is far better described by science. Sorry but I don't believe much of the Bible at all.
@@ismaelmelville47 Ismael, my friend..its hard to know what to believe i know but science people dont know squat. Dont trust them unless its from the Bible or ancient text. My challenge to you is to call on Jesus and ask Him to show you what is true. Just do that. If He is God than He will be able to answer you, but make sure you ask..for He is a gentleman and doesnt intrude on us unless we ask. Just ask brother.
@@IMPORTANTVIDEOS7 OK I will. And my challenge to you is to simply think. Why many religions? If prayer worked for any of them they would be the one religion. So prayer does not work. So gods cannot be detected. All we have is claims of holy books that are not backed up by history or science. Just think.
This is such a wonderful video. 🎉had to download it. So, that I can re-watch it, and then learn how to approach others with this tactic. Thank you so much!
You need to be born again with the Holy Spirit. Even with modern Bible versions it's hard to understand. It's veiled to those who don't have hope in Christ. The Holy Spirit reveals scripture He unveils it. John 3:3 2Corinthians 4:3-4
In 1 Samuel 23; David has a discussion with the Lord about what the people of Keilah will do with him if he stays there with Saul approaching. God spoke to David about 2 scenarios that never happened. Meaning "Pre-knowledge does not equate to predestination".
I’ve known many stand up comics and supported them all around the country, they all use the same jokes, if you find something that works you don’t change it for the few that have already heard your set. 😉
Not everyone watches his videos on TH-cam over and over. These are brand new to audience after audience around the country. And if they work well to make his point, why change it?
Answering Muslims:-- Lol my question is very simple dear, again listen carefully so that your mind can be liberated. I said in my question what do God mean by saying in Genesis chapter 1 vs 26 that let "US" make man in our image and likeness??? And keep in mind that's plural form meaning Jesus Christ the son of God was the word and was always with God from the beginning. It's a very simple question I am asking you even 5years old child might ask you. What do God mean by saying let US create man in our image??? Please answer if you think you actually know God he's beyond your understanding mortal man. And also I have another question too, are you one single person or you are two right now and do you believe you have a soul inside you which will make you two people or two entities because your body is already equals=1 so if we add your soul that will be equals=2 so the mathematical fallacy to your questions is 1+1=1 which is impossible according to Quran so mathematically your whole Quran is wrong to begin with. This is not to attacks on any Muslims or anything I respect Muslims alot but they need to wake up and see the reality of the fallacy of the book they believe in. It's a very simple question are Muslims one Or they're Two??? Do dey believe in souls apart from thier body which is only one right now????? That is mathematically do they believe that 1+1=1 meaning body is 1 which is physical and soul is two which is spirit or invisible that's another 1. Making it total two in one atleast that mathematically 2=1 ??? Or 1=2 either way they have much explaining to explain thier body and soul 1+1=1 or 1+1=2 so Quran itself is a mathematical fallacy and a complete lie.
I dont know anything about what the Quran talks about when it comes to souls but i do know why the word "us" was used when God formed man. It refers to God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit. They are 3 seperate "entities" but under the same Godhead. They are all three God but from my knowledge play three seperate rolls in the grand plan if you will. Eh, im lacking eloquent wording here...that is how i underatand it. So when God said "let us make man in our image" He is speaking to the other two of the Godhead. Its an agreement that man was to be made in the likeness of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.
I don't think that the Shroud of Turin, matters much Frank. Even _IF_ it's somehow real. I like a lot of things that you bring up... I just don't think that is one of them.
I don’t believe he thinks so either, just answering the question to the best of his ability. I almost never hear him speak upon the Turin outside of this question.
I was grieved to learn Frank believes the Shroud of Turin covered Jesus. God wouldn’t allow anything to be left behind on Earth that would cause people to focus more on that object than focusing on Jesus Christ. Ex. Why did God disallow the Israelites to know where Moses’ bones were buried? Because they would idolize his remains.
@@onlyimagine4 where did he say he believed? Stop assuming such stigma on tureks beliefs, he’s a man he’s not perfect, love him for what he is and the good he does. I’m sure there’s questionable things you believe that others would discount you right away, would you like to feel that way?
@@planetofkai He said at time stamp 2:02-2:11 “Appears to be a real crucified victim and probably is the shroud that covered Christ.” I wish I had assumed that. I don’t see where I said Frank was perfect. No person is, but God is and so is every word in the Bible. The shroud of Turin isn’t in the Bible so maybe we should be cautious to focus on that. This potentially COULD cause some to fall into the sin of idolatry. Some people are known to have traveled thousands of miles to see this piece of cloth. That’s idolatry. That’s why I think it’s grievous to put any energy or time into this subject. Stick to the Bible. You’ll never go wrong.
@@onlyimagine4 The Shroud is important to prove to non-Christian people who denied the resurrection, that Jesus was only a human and not divine. New science is bringing new knowledge to the age of the Shroud. If you see the new images it will take your breath away. It’s a continuous process to proclaim the cross and resurrection.
My husband and I read the KJV Holy Bible together cover to cover in just a few months. Then he read it 3 additional times through out the remainder of the year on his own. Now he reads it everyday. There's no way it's not true. Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God
Yes, he the only begotten SON of the Father, but not the Father, they are separate.
@@NobleMindedBereans Yes God the Son, God the Father and God the Holy Spirit - 3 persons but 1 God
@@kabuuj3400 No, the Trinity is a pagan doctrine from many ancient nations, before the birth of Jesus Christ. The Father has a name, Yahweh and the son has a name, Jesus Christ, but the Holy Spirit does not have a name and is not a God, but the dynamic energy force from the Father. Yahweh is not Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is not Yahweh, the both have different meanings to their names. Jesus is Yahweh's first born of all creation and his only begotten son. Pagan Roman Catholicism adopted the pagan trinity doctrine to appease the pagan Romans to convert to Roman Catholicism, so they adopted many of pagan Romes pagan customs. To be in the circle club of acceptance, making the big bucks in Christendom, these network public platform preachers, pastors, have to expound the pagan Trinity doctrine and the pagan mythological Hellfire doctrine. Frank Turec, Benny Hinn, Pat Robertson, former Bill Graham, Kenneth Copeland, just to name a few of the many. It's big business paying no taxes on income and Real Estate. So to get ahead you have to get along or be ostracized. Frank Turec is a millionaire, like they all are. I won't even mentioned Joel Osteen.
HOW ANCIENT TRINITARIAN GODS INFLUENCED ADOPTION OF THE TRINITY.
Many who believe in the Trinity are surprised, perhaps shocked, to learn that the idea of divine beings existing as trinities or triads long predated Christianity. Yet, as we will see, the evidence is abundantly documented.
Marie Sinclair, Countess of Caithness, in her 1876 book Old Truths in a New Light, states: "It is generally, although erroneously, supposed that the doctrine of the Trinity is of Christian origin. Nearly every nation of antiquity possessed a similar doctrine. [The early Catholic theologian] St. Jerome testifies unequivocally, 'All the ancient nations believed in the Trinity'" (p. 382).
Notice how the following quotes document belief in a divine trinity in many regions and religions of the ancient world.
Sumeria
"The universe was divided into three regions each of which became the domain of a god. Anu's share was the sky. The earth was given to Enlil. Ea became the ruler of the waters. Together they constituted the triad of the Great Gods" (The Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology, 1994, pp. 54-55)
Babylonia
"The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23).
India
"The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
"Hence the triangle was adopted by all the ancient nations as a symbol of the Deity . . . Three was considered among all the pagan nations as the chief of the mystical numbers, because, as Aristotle remarks, it contains within itself a beginning, a middle, and an end. Hence we find it designating some of the attributes of almost all the pagan gods" (Sinclair, pp. 382-383).
Greece
"In the Fourth Century B.C. Aristotle wrote: 'All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes, for the end, the middle and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity'" (Arthur Weigall, Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, pp. 197-198).
Egypt
"The Hymn to Amun decreed that 'No god came into being before him (Amun)' and that 'All gods are three: Amun, Re and Ptah, and there is no second to them. Hidden is his name as Amon, he is Re in face, and his body is Ptah.' . . . This is a statement of trinity, the three chief gods of Egypt subsumed into one of them, Amon. Clearly, the concept of organic unity within plurality got an extraordinary boost with this formulation. Theologically, in a crude form it came strikingly close to the later Christian form of plural Trinitarian monotheism" (Simson Najovits, Egypt, Trunk of the Tree, Vol. 2, 2004, pp. 83-84).
Other areas
Many other areas had their own divine trinities. In Greece they were Zeus, Poseidon and Adonis. The Phoenicians worshipped Ulomus, Ulosuros and Eliun. Rome worshipped Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto. In Germanic nations they were called Wodan, Thor and Fricco. Regarding the Celts, one source states, "The ancient heathen deities of the pagan Irish[,] Criosan, Biosena, and Seeva, or Sheeva, are doubtless the Creeshna [Krishna], Veeshnu [Vishnu], [or the all-inclusive] Brahma, and Seeva [Shiva], of the Hindoos" (Thomas Maurice, The History of Hindostan, Vol. 2, 1798, p. 171).
"The origin of the conception is entirely pagan"
Egyptologist Arthur Weigall, while himself a Trinitarian, summed up the influence of ancient beliefs on the adoption of the Trinity doctrine by the Catholic Church in the following excerpt from his previously cited book:
"It must not be forgotten that Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon [the Trinity], and nowhere in the New Testament does the word 'Trinity' appear. The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord; and the origin of the conception is entirely pagan . . .
"The ancient Egyptians, whose influence on early religious thought was profound, usually arranged their gods or goddesses in trinities: there was the trinity of Osiris, Isis, and Horus, the trinity of Amen, Mut, and Khonsu, the trinity of Khnum, Satis, and Anukis, and so forth . . .
"The early Christians, however, did not at first think of applying the idea to their own faith. They paid their devotions to God the Father and to Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and they recognized the mysterious and undefined existence of the Holy Spirit; but there was no thought of these three being an actual Trinity, co-equal and united in One . . .
"The application of this old pagan conception of a Trinity to Christian theology was made possible by the recognition of the Holy Spirit as the required third 'Person,' co-equal with the other 'Persons' . . .
"The idea of the Spirit being co-equal with God was not generally recognized until the second half of the Fourth Century A.D. . . . In the year 381 the Council of Constantinople added to the earlier Nicene Creed a description of the Holy Spirit as 'the Lord, and giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and Son together is worshipped and glorified.' . . .
"Thus, the Athanasian creed, which is a later composition but reflects the general conceptions of Athanasius [the 4th-century Trinitarian whose view eventually became official doctrine] and his school, formulated the conception of a co-equal Trinity wherein the Holy Spirit was the third 'Person'; and so it was made a dogma of the faith, and belief in the Three in One and One in Three became a paramount doctrine of Christianity, though not without terrible riots and bloodshed . . .
"Today a Christian thinker . . . has no wish to be precise about it, more especially since the definition is obviously pagan in origin and was not adopted by the Church until nearly three hundred years after Christ" (pp. 197-203).
James Bonwick summarized the story well on page 396 of his 1878 work Egyptian Belief and Modern Thought: "It is an undoubted fact that more or less all over the world the deities are in triads. This rule applies to eastern and western hemispheres, to north and south.
"Further, it is observed that, in some mystical way, the triad of three persons is one. The first is as the second or third, the second as first or third, the third as first or second; in fact, they are each other, one and the same individual being. The definition of Athanasius, who lived in Egypt, applies to the trinities of all heathen religions."
@@NobleMindedBereans Satan always copy Biblical God so if God is 3-personal then devil for sure will have 3-personal gods in his mitologies.
I will use Scriptures to prove that Holy Spirit is the God:
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto GOD.
Acts 5:3-4 KJV
In verse 3 Peter said that Ananias lied to Holy Spirit
In verse 4 Peter said that Ananias lied to God
I'm sure you will not say that Peter is wrong for calling Holy Ghost: God
And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the HOLY GHOST by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
Acts 28:25-26 KJV
Paul said that Holy Ghost spoke by Isaiah to his fathers, but what is written in Isaiah?
Also I heard the voice of the LORD, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
Isaiah 6:8-9 KJV
Well, according to Isaiah 6 and Acts 28 Lord and Holy Ghost is the same person or Paul is wrong.
@@kabuuj3400 Scriptures proves nothing other than that Scriptures exists. FACT
So many people want a savior but not a lord. This is how you end up luke warm guys🙏❤️
So very true !
They worship Me with their mouths but their hearts are far from me.
Unfortunately the majority are trying to be saviours, the minority have found a saviour. For not everyone that calls themselves Christians are christians, only those who have truly trusted Christ as their personal Saviour.
Very well said! I quit using the word Christian quite a long time ago. It can mean anything you want it to mean. I generally call myself a follower of Christ.
@@Philthefisherofmen same here. I also like to spite them further by saying I believe in the God that Isaiah prophecied would manifest, then John his contemporary confirmed.
We are husband and wife truck drivers. We listen to your videos all the time all over the country to prepare for loading dock or truck stop evangelism. I LOVE the way you teach.
Man! So blessed to know your story! Keep it up. Blessings and prayers !!
I keep listening to these videos, at times when I'm building my lego battleship.
God protect you both as you travel and evangelize!
I started doing the same. Truck driver from Amazon in NY. Only thing that keeps me awake on the road.
I had been in a same sex relationship since I was 16, I am currently 41 (sheesh time flies) in 2017 God woke me up, there was NOTHING any man or woman could have told me to get me out. I am SURE people prayed for me, but it was coming to God via the Flat Earth ( i know I know most aren't with that, but that's how I came to Christ) that pulled me out of that lifestyle. I am at my happiest when I am living for Christ, and not for myself.
Great you got saved. Would love to know how God used the flat earth, 😂.
My man! Flat earth brought me to Christ, too!! Regardless of whether or not it's actually true (even tho I think it is) I had to ask myself, if this were true what would that mean? I had to consider the possibility that I was front and center stage in God's universe and that my life was far more significant and important to a God who was watching and really paying attention. I was no longer a highly evolved monkey clinging to a small, spinning dirt ball in an huge, nihilistic and meaningless universe. It both exalted and humbled me. I knew I had to get right with a God who was much closer or more personal to me than I had ever imagined. And that led me directly to the cross. Praise Jesus!
Being Gay isn't a sin! God has made each of us to be who he needs us too be! Reading the 6 clobber passages with a proper historical sociological context as well as a proper translation of the Greek Hebrew.
You then realize. I understand that same-sex relationships as we think of them. Today between 2 consenting, adults on a level playing field was not a concept In the first century They focused on dominance and who was being penetrated or not
”He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.“
Isaiah 40:22 NIV
@@blahblah27pizza 😂 come on man… Can’t I give my testimony without you doing that. Never mind the flat earth, can you just be happy that I am part of the body of Christ? God uses different ways to draw in His people, that was just the way He got my attention. I don’t understand some people…. Also, YES those who believe the earth is flat also know this verse in Isaiah, you should that that back to the Hebrew, circle is Chug(khug) it means vault, and to draw around, a circle. Circle is 2D, a ball is a 3D “rotation” of said circle. Say you took a coin and spun it, the spinning motion creates a visual ball (illusion) anyway, I pray we can be kind to each other about this. If you are a Christian then we are siblings and I don’t fight with the Body of Christ.
Frank Turek is a blessing to the Church. ✝️👍
One of my favorite apologist. So happy we have ppl like him and others who defend the word of God with incredible accuracy and boldness. May God continuously rise up ppl like this and may God be eternally be pleased with ppl like Pastor Frank. As a Christian I’m sure I and others are learning a lot from them. Thank you Lord for giving us ppl like Frank and I pray you give him and others like him more wisdom, knowledge, patience, strength, protection, and blessings forevermore. Hallelujah praise the living God!
I like listening to Frank also, but he is all wrong about the pagan eternal torture Hellfire doctrine and the pagan Trinity doctrine (three Gods in one God.)
Is he a pretrib rapture believer?
😆🤣😂🤢🤮!
Mine too! I come into agreement with you! Apologetics is needed in the churches also!!
Frank lied about Hawkins believing in god, he called out for lying during his debate with Hitchens, he uses fallacies more then any other appoliset I listen to, he hasn't had a good argument for anything. The best appoligest Christians have is Mike Licona, at least he isn't afraid to correct Turek and his buddy Wallace when they both constantly toss out nonsense.
I can't describe how happy i am to hear that muslims are giving testimonies of Jesus reaching out to them in a dream or vision. I"M SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. Please God continue to reach out to people from all around the world.
Amen!
Amen indeed, this is what I'm praying for everyday. If the world only knew the beauty and wisdom of Jesus, they'd all bowed down🙏
The Bible/Torah/Koran was not handed to mankind by god,
nor was it dictated to human stenographers by any gods.
It has nothing to do with gods.
In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of a god by a group of men during the 4th century;
and the Koran was just the copied and demented dogma of a selfish and petty despot....
@@briendoyle4680 I was a child of God at 20, at 30 I sat in my office and said there is no God as none of my senses ever experience Him and decided to become a hardcore atheist, no morals because its irrelevant then. Remember it was just a though but one that was very intense and going to change my life. 10 min later 2 woman I have never seen before or after walked into my office closed the door and said: Jesus have sent us with an urgent message for you: That I (me) am never alone, even if it feels like it and that He will never forsake me, even if it feels like it, they stood up and walked out again, never to be seen. THATS HOW I KNOW THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB IS REAL. Not one atheist could ever explain that visit away......It is weird that a visit so impossible happenned on the back of a story that was voted in 1600 years ago.......I dont think so...........The Bible is His word to us, yes there are more books that are not in the Bible but none of them takes away from the core message.
I am an ex Muslim, once lost but now found, by the grace of God
My little brother committed suicide in 2005 and it turned my world upside down- with my family especially. I wrote Rick Warren dhring that time of trauma and just wicked, wicked behaviors from my Christian parents and he responded with the longest, sweetest email of the greatest comfort. I will never forget that kindness.♡
❤
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Strange Ive never thought of the idea that they could’ve disproven “Christianity “ by finding Messiahs body. Simple, obvious but powerful. The greatest archaeological evidence...there was no body! Yes. Hallelujah 💕
00:30 Shrowd of Turin
2:38 Pontius Pilate validation
3:03 Discussion of the importance of not finding Jesus body.
4:34 Freewill/ predestination discussion. Knowledge and Causality
6:33 Reconciling love ones being damned while you worship the person that damn them.
15:51 Young/old earth
24:02 Challenges for the church in the next 10 years
28:56 homosexuality question
39:30 Revival?
42:22 Book of Leviticus
44:52Progressive Christians
48:32 Do you think we are in the end times
51:49 Jesus died for my sins… I got a free pass to sins
52:13 Ontological arguments
54:06 moral judgments
56:35 Majestic heaven/natural world
1:30:55 Why don’t we stone people anymore
1:08:16 Why were the catholic books removed from the Bible
1:08:41 Right wing Christian
1:11:38 The book irresistible
👍u da man thx
Hmm, A question the world should ask more often...Why don't we stone people to death anymore? Having to answer this question tells us everything we need to know about Chrisitanity!
@@ChurchofReason14 looool because god also says be merciful like your god is merciful the reason it was in the law was to show how serious sin was to god and to make sure the law was fulfilled
@@mr.boboman5701 so your god condoned stoning people. And Christianity is the source of morality! 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@ChurchofReason14 ya for the Jews the rules were more strick because they had to be different from everyone around them and lol well morality isnt subjective because if it wasn't i would create my own morals by influencing the mass. Remember the whole world is counting on Jews to get there things together
If you're dis agreeing with Jesus, you're not progressing, you're regressing.
So good!
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He's right about apathy.
"The love of many will grow cold."
Because of lawlessness( iniquity)
the love of many will wax cold
So blessed I found this video, I learned so much, thank you brother Frank Turek! Praise Jesus!
"the things that we see were created of the things we don't see". People don't actually realize how scientifically accurate that statement is. Literally, describing atoms.
That's deep and powerful!!
Helping the believer think and helping the thinker believe; helping connect the head and the heart!
This man coupled with grace preachers has broaden my understanding and made the foundation my belief is build on like the hardest rock in existence.
Belief in a barbaric, bloodthirsty tribal god
with three separate personalities
named Yahweh/Jehovah/Elohim?
That's weird.
@@JamesRichardWiley "Barbaric, bloodthirsy tribal god"??????????? Please explain.
Next time you have a wet fart pray and thank the intelligent designer.
@@slevinchannel7589 strange how you say that the Bible speaks of a hateful God, when the most repeated phrase (in various forms) within the Bible is "the LORD, the LORD God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in covenant love"
And that's in the Old Testament!
@@EthanDyTioco Yea, its almost like your coping with excuses, isnt it? And most christians kinddaaa know this and i dont even speak of the mass-LEAVING, the DROVES of christians who leveae the church because your so f-ing hateful
IImagine thinking the bible oftne repeating 'GOD IS LOOVEEEEE' makes God loving, iagine being this silly. Even your fellow christians would blatant laugh at you. Oh, wait, wer dont have to speculate, i hshould rephrase this: CHRISTIANS ARE LAUGHING AT YOU, CHRISTIANS ARE LEAVING YOUR GROUP, CHRISTIANS ARE ASHAMED OF CHRISTIANITY EMBARASING-ITSELF
Thanks Dr. Turek appreciate all you do and teach of Jesus the Lord! Has helped me further mature my christian walk.
@El Taffy
There's actually a lot of evidence of God's existence. But just out of curiosity, why all the hostility? You came to a Christian apologist video only to name call. Seems kind of petty to me.
@El Taffy
"Being petty is the very least I can do, only wish it was far more"
Of course. My apologies. I didn't realize having different opinions based on how people ought to run the world is just cause for stooping to petty insults.
THAT is what is wrong with society. Instead of engaging in respectful discussion in an attempt to understand people with different opinions, most people just take the easy way out and stoop to petty insults, kinda like children do. But lets get to the main issue.
"Religion separates families and communities."
Really? Yeah, that's called having a different opinion. Religion isn't the only thing that does that. Politics and different ideologies, values, and worldviews. They all cause people to disagree, religious or not. But that isn't what actually separates families and communities. It is being INTOLERANT of other peoples opinions and beliefs. And that intolerance turning to hate. That is what separates people. And religious people can sometimes be guilty of this... and so can secular people. You seem quite intolerant of Christianity right now.
"provides reasons for discrimination, bigotry, homophobia, racism, exceptionalism, anti-science, criminality and reality, need I go on"
I can't speak for other religions, but Christianity does not discriminate at all. It just teaches that some things people like are actually sinful. That is different from discrimination. As for your anti science claim, I have no idea what your talking about. There are plenty of scientists who believe in God. Science and belief in God don't contradict.
And finally, here is why NONE of what we are talking about matters anyway if you are an atheist. If atheism is true and God doesn't exist, objective morality can't exist either. Which means morality is subjective, meaning everything is just a matter of opinion/personal preference. And if that's the case, you can't accuse anything of being immoral/evil. Raci$m, bigotry, etc. According to atheism, none of that is really wrong anyway if morality is subjective. It's just your personal preference if you don't like that stuff. So what are you complaining about?
Brother. Turek knows what he is doing and talking about more than many . I love his grace and kindness and 1 Corinthians 13 example
This is Amazing!! Frank is a AMAZING MAN OF CHRIST! Great teacher. We are blessed to have a teacher like this 🙏🙏
Atheist-Channel deserve to be
Heard.
They have valid questions to ask and valid criticism to make. Sometimes both at once.
If you always ignore that, guess what:
Yes-Sayers is what you surround yourself with.
Challenges is what you Avoid.
Problems are what you ignore.
Criticism is what you ignore hard - and we all know thats super-duper-healthy-tastic!!
Thank you Frank
really appreciated your careful, truth and grace filled responses
It's given me more confidence and conviction in knowing how I can approach both friends, Church Members and those in my community as we have conversations about Jesus and the issues of our time. God Bless and I hope to be at one of your trainings soon with my wife.
Without Frank could you stand behind your own beliefs?
@@JamesRichardWiley Thanks
With respect to Frank
The conviction of my beliefs don't come from Frank. Just like anyone pursuing how to act well and graciously with others you sometimes need to step back and be challenged by the way others approach the same topic. I found this one helpful>
Wishing you well
@@jermaineedwards7157 If you ever do meet Frank, could you ask him this question on my behalf
_"The Bible says it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. You're a multi-millionaire. Isn't it time you practice what you preach and follow the Bible's instruction of selling what you own and giving to the poor?"_
He won't of course. I just wanted to point out how uncomfortable he is with his own beliefs.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 I think you are grasping here.. God does not instruct to sell what you have and give to the poor. There was an opportunity given by Jesus to a single person in Matthew Chapter 19 to expose that the money was his God, not God himself. God gave Job more wealth than most any man on earth. Same with Solomon. You should actually read the Bible and then make a conclusion. It's easy to criticize others, but difficult to criticize yourself.
@@thirst4wisdomAh, the inevitable Christian excuses when anomalies are found in their religion, lol, that's new. The Bible does indeed say Jesus told his followers _“If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell what thou hast and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in Heaven; and come and follow Me.”_
I continually thank God for your Life Frank and pray for more people like you. May we all learn more and become more efficient at sharing the gospel and answering people question.
Here's a question:
Who invented the many gods who appeared before the one true god, Yahweh?
@@JamesRichardWiley Idols were created by the mind of wicked men.
@@JamesRichardWiley 😴
I was stoned for decades and I never died. Lol. Thx to the grace and power of God the compulsion to use drugs on any level has been removed from me!
Reading 📖 the Bible with a heart for God will transform your entire life, you will see the world through the eyes of a Holy Righteous God!
I just wanna say to my Brothers and Sisters in the Lord. May the Lord of our Salvation continue to guide you every day!!
So blessed to watch the whole event 🙏🙏🙏
Watch atheist-channel: Jesus would blush if he knew you only listen to ONLY YOUR BELIEF and nothing else, like a fool who drinks water from just one source. Echo-Chamber much??
@@slevinchannel7589 Who says he only watches Christian shiz? Your comment isn't good because you're assuming something you don't know
@@kenanbroersma709 Fun-Fact: youre just assuming i assumed that.
Lol.
@@kenanbroersma709 Also, youre username implies youre a BAD Nen-User!
@@slevinchannel7589 I just like hxh and no I am not assuming anything. I used my eyes to see what you wrote how is that assuming anything
Very enlightening! Praise God for you both men of God!
I just bought a T-shirt. I love it. I don’t usually buy TH-camrs merch but this one I was compelled.
Americans don't understand real Christianity. _"Sell what you own and give to the poor"_ is what Jesus taught. Not _"Sell to TH-camrs and make yourself a multi-millionaire."_
Americans don't know what real Christianity even is.
When i fell in love with God....i wanted to give up everything... it didn't matter. I wanted to please God..convicted by the holy spirit All i wanted to do was change...i was crying constantly....i couldn't take the conviction anymore
AWESOME content!!! Keep preaching and teaching the truth!!! And keep doing this type of event !!!
Frank has the truth compared to those who don't. Wow.
@@JamesRichardWiley Atheist-Channel deserve to be
Heard.
They have valid questions to ask and valid criticism to make. Sometimes both at once.
If you always ignore that, guess what:
Yes-Sayers is what you surround yourself with.
Challenges is what you Avoid.
Problems are what you ignore.
Criticism is what you ignore hard - and we all know thats super-duper-healthy-tastic!!
God Bless Frank. The man has provided some of the most effective explanations and arguments to very difficult questions. Reference 5:15.
One thing Dr Turek said that needs to be clarified. When Jesus was nailed on the cross, not one of his bones was broken. John 19:34. This is a miracle in itself how God watched His word to perform it. Jeremiah 1:12.
You hit it right on the head Frank, that is Washington!!!!!!!! The truth hurts, and what we do with that truth will develop our character...
How I wish Frank had been there to explain sexual immorality to me when I was young. Man, it could have saved so much pain and damage! (Mind you I probably wouldn’t have listened to a word)
Makes sense.... They tend to like to tell you what you are feeling or what you are suppose to feel
@Justin Gary Justin, please stop spamming my posts.
I’ve seen this identical (extremely long) comment on a number of my replies now and on many others. It is not the way to promote yourself and is extremely rude.
Again, in love, please stop!
I hear you! I have the exact same thing, and I wouldn't have listened either. You know, God knows what He is doing, and He knew the time and place and way to reach you to turn to Him. I pray that He will use your pain and damage for something good. God doesn't do left overs. I firmly believe that He can use every scar and tear in our lives, either to heal us so deep that leads to a way richer knowledge of Him that without those hurt it may even not have been possible to, or to be a powerful witness to the people around you. Your transformation is huge, people will see that. Bless Him!
@@Potamotrygorgeous Thank you brother (I hear you). I am so grateful that God has removed the yoke of guilt that I carried in the pit of my stomach (felt like I’d swallowed a grapefruit), it had been there all my life and I thought it was just a normal physiological part of being human and everyone had one! It has gone these past ten years and I praise Him every day.I lived a privileged and blessed life as a young man but abused myself and so many women always looking for the next conquest. I was married with two small children but that didn’t stop me, I thought I was a secret Casanova, fooling everyone! But all I was really doing; was storing up God’s wrath and my behaviour eventually destroyed everything I had!
I’m so glad that it did, sorry for the pain I caused and joyful that He used my experience to lead me to Him.
Many blessings brother (I think I may have overshared! 🤣)
You had and have the Father and his son Jesus Christ explain sexual immorality to you in the Bible, which is very clear. Frank is just a mere imperfect sinful human being who teaches pagan doctrines like the eternal Hellfire torture doctrine and the pagan Trinity doctrine. (Three Gods in one God.)
When judgment comes, Frank will not be there pleading for you, we will all be judged just like Frank Turec will be judged. We will each be judged individually. I like Frank Turec and like listening to him, but he is all wrong about the pagan mythological eternal Hellfire doctrine and the pagan Trinity doctrine, as both are false pagan doctrines.
There is plenty of TH-cam videos explaining the pagan origination of eternal Hellfire and the pagan trinity doctrine, to obtain a quick reference. You can google these pagan doctrines also.
Love does not require approval. So profound
They will never find the body of Christ. He is risen to eternal glory! Thank you Lord for your sacrifice. John 11:24 Jesus said I am the Resurrection and the life. I am humbled and grateful to my Lord forever.
It’s good to recognize and appreciate the gifts God has given us in our brothers.
Much that was shared is helpful
It’s also very important to recognize when someone begins leaning on their own understanding and siding with worldly philosophies at the cost of what the Word of God clearly teaches.
If you begin to doubt the clear accounts and doctrines of God you are heading down a slippery slope of deception and spiritual blindness.(Pride)
I appreciate all these men offer and at the same time I can call out (as we are called to do) the areas in which they stray from the plain reading of foundational truth.
Grace and peace
@24:00 I'm 100% with the answer of Dr. Frank to the question "What is the #1 challenge against the church in the next 10 years?".
the #1 challenge is actually proving anything... Just as it has always been the challenge
@@JRyder24 Another challenge is for people like Frank Turek to show accounting records proving that all money he makes from selling Christianity goes to the poor instead of himself.
@@TonyEnglandUK Its all a scam, man. It is so sad and dishonest. These people are making so much money off of other peoples ignorance. It's hard to watch.
@@TonyEnglandUK do you give all your salary to the poor? Or do you feed your family?
@@JRyder24 the #1 challenge is teaching children
Thank you Dr.Frank, God bless you all. This is enriching.Jesus be praised ❤❤❤
Well said Frank , helping them ❤️🏆❤️
1:08:10 *Martin Luther didn't remove them, protestant Bible still have the deuterocanonical books, but the “British and Foreign Bible Society” (founded in 1804) removed the deuterocanonical books just opting for the Hebrew Canon in 1826. This decision broke with the tradition of Myles Coverdale, of consolidating the Apocrypha between the two Testaments. They reasoned that by not printing the secondary material of Apocrypha within the Bible, the scriptures would prove to be less costly to produce.*
The Apocrypha are included in the lectionaries of the Lutheran Churches and the Anglican Churches. In the present day, "English Bibles with the Apocrypha are becoming more popular again", usually being printed as intertestamental books.
The Lord spoke to me "Enoch" and the "Rapture" 3 years ago. Many are having dreams also as the Bible speaks in the "last days". Personally I do not believe it will be long at all now. I don't think, considering what's going on in the world, it could last too long anyway! I appreciate what was shared here and God bless you both. Maranatha!
00:26:46 “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ~ Thomas Sowell
We all must do our part and spread the good news.
We've all heard about him now
It's not news
Pillock
@@marksandsmith6778 That's incredibly rude and unnecessary. And I'm an atheist saying that.
@@TonyEnglandUK
So many lives ruined by religion.
The respect they demand is most of the problem.
@@marksandsmith6778The Gospel is the good news. We are saved through Jesus.
Thank you for this upload.
It's been a blessing! 🎉
What a fantastic Apologetics video. I'm seriously going to use this information in the future
Designing a plane, or performing surgery?
Wow just wow, can’t believe he is saying people send themselves to hell and want to be there, absolutely the dumbest thing I have heard. Who in there right mind wants to be burned alive forever and ever Seriously crazy. A more accurate analogy would be a guy trying to pursue a girl and when she says no he says well I won’t force you to be with me so I’m going to torture you in my basement since I love you I won’t force you.
@@CalvinR90 Our only hope is in God's/Jesus Christ's Grace and Mercy.
Romans 8:24
For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Romans 8:25
But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
God I love this man❤
This is the most important question for man. Your answer is the difference between salvation and condemnation.
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26
@bob proctor whats wrong? Je just coted the bible! Can you explain the issue
1. Believe in Jesus. One God
2. Repent
3. Be baptized in Jesus Name, fully submerged in water
4. Receive the Holy Spirit with an evidence of speaking in tongues.
5. Live a holy life, in prayer, fasting, being like Jesus.
It is all very clear in Bible.
Love you people
@martynabanczyk you don't have to be baptized, you have to truly except Jesus as your lord with your heart
Great discussion!!! Learned so much!
If we start allegorizing or spiritualizing scripture then when does it end? Is the virgin birth spiritual or is the crucifixion spiritual or even the resurrection? It's a slippery slope and will cause confusion. The Best way to interperate the Bible is literal and grammatical unless the context gives you permission through context to do otherwise.
It's so easy for people to try to do God's work for Him . Also they know what is the only right church and right Bible translation and all the important means of being a child of God
What a great talks. Bless you lads!
brilliant
difficult questions dealt with
I love Jesus The Christ he is my Lord and Savior.
Hank you for this conversation!!
not sure Rick Warren qualifies as a Pastor
Yes, that is very concerning.
Isn’t it!😕
Why?? Did he get busted for something???
@@matthewclay6535 this guy partnered with mosques and Muslim leaders to try to bridge the gap between Christianity and Islam, and teaching that Allah and God are the same
@@matthewclay6535 He’s also endorsed Roman Catholicism and generally been a bit flakey, a progressive Christian.
Frank is so right on so many things except for cosmology.
We get a crown for watching for His return!! He loves us and He loves that we watch!
Thanks Chip on your comments about homosexuality. This has become such a social driven subject. I doubt anyone today doesn't have a connection to this community. I really want the church to be more loving to them. I believe with all my heart that we love them to God and he will do the rest. I know that as I got stronger with my faith many sins dropped away without my conscious
recognition . I won't deny that I believe it isn't part of God's plan but God wants us to love all people despite their sins.
Frank and Heiser are my two favorite scholars
“We can ignore even pleasure. But pain insists upon being attended to. God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is his megaphone to rouse a deaf world.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
Frank, it's very important for believers to be continually reminded of two highly important doctrines of:
1) God's discipline on His believers, when they remain in sin and/or fail to confess their sins,
AND,
2) The Christian judgment, which is ONLY for reward & loss thereof (1Cor. 3:11-15), which is based on each Christian's growth & responding obedience to learned Scripture.
Few teachers consistently add brief overviews of these doctrines which go a long way in fending off the common widespread error of Christians, which is that they must maintain the salvation that Christ ALONE provides. Thanks.
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Continually reminded - yup, that's God.
My godless reality confronts me each morning so I don't need to be continually reminded that my godless reality exists.
@@JamesRichardWiley - Yeah, most hot blooded humans do the same thing, but that's just to help them assuage their guilt for over-indulgence in whatever feels good.
The ONLY valid alternative to UN-provable evolution pseudosciences, which a majority thinks lends credence to their rejection of The God written about in ancient texts, over millennia, by 40 authors of 66 books that "strangely coalesce", as if ONE.
Over the years, I've learned that said rejection merely reflects the fact that the majority rejects serious, HONEST investigation into the claims of many thousands of intelligent people over millennia, whose first choice was NOT to know more about The God that all people know exists. Your rejection in no manner helps prove that you are correct in your fake assumption.
I say "fake", because no intelligent person actually believes that living organisms came into existence by so called "natural process", which remains entirely conjectural.
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There are resurrections, but one of the differences is u know where their bones are when they're alive & when the die the final time. But Jesus is alive, his bones are with him in Heaven!
"Is Atheism growing and Christisnity dying?"
Depends on where you look. In Africa, Asia including China, South America etc the answer is no.
And what does that tell you.
@@JeramyRG what does that tell you ?
@@travelsouthafrica5048 Free first world countries not included.
@@JeramyRG are they really that free ? remember I don't wear masks and I am not forced to take a vaccine
@@travelsouthafrica5048 I don't wear masks and I'm not forced to take a vaccine either?
But yes, first world free countries are not oppressively forced to do anything. We have freedom to make our choices so long as it does not harm another person or infringe on anothers freedom.
The same cannot be said for China.
Equally, poor countries have always had greater populations of religious.
Few attributable reasons; lack of education, an escape, fear etc. Ample studies show these to be true.
Thank you Frank for your ministry.
I totally agree with you on - Christianity did not originate with the bible but with the resurrection.🎯
Thank you… that was amazing ❤
Hats off to Frank, comming back with a crystal clear aside after that looooong beat around the bush by Pastor Chip, with all due respect, regarding homosexuality.
Yet Frank doesn't point out that no multi-millionaire is going to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Any idea why he doesn't? He is, after all, a multi-millionaire.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 What now? What Bible are reading? Or are you just making up verses in the Bible? Jesus said that it would be hard, not impossible, for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
@@j.peaceo1031 ok I'm afraid you're reading the _context_ of what Jesus said, not what he _actually_ said. Try again and include camels and needles.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 Jesus said: "With man, it is impossible. With God, nothing is impossible." Thank God, we are saved through faith by the grace of Jesus Christ.
BTW, I believe properity preachers are not of God. They will be judged by Him for leading many astray and robbing widows. Frank is not among them.
But going back to my original point, Pastor Chip seems that he tiptoes around truth. We dob't need to be ugly and condemnatory, but we must speak the truth. Sis is sin.
@@j.peaceo1031 lol hello? Over here?
Jesus: _“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”_
34 min talking about catering to gays better? I don’t agree with. Do we cater to other sims as a group ? Makes no sense
Agreed. It also bothered me that the pastor stated he is a “very tolerant” person. Tolerance is not a Christian virtue.
Yes, keep defending bigotry.
I didn't realize how tall Frank Turek is until he stood up and saw him on stage next to the moderator. The gentleman moderating is very smart, sharp and knowledgeable.
I've enjoyed listening to Frank but if agrees 95% with Andy Stanley then I've got big concerns.
Yes it appears the censor heavily discernment about the Church and it’s satanic hierarchy.
What's up with Andy Stanley's church? I haven't listened to him in years.
@Justin Gary Can you give examples?
@@klugermann5806 There's nothing wrong with Andy Stanley's church. People who have theological differences with him run around saying he's a false teacher or some kind of a new age heretic. This new age Christianity are his accusers, who think "if your scriptural interpretation doesn't match mine, then you are false and commit heresy." Ignore the slander.
Pre-ordination by way of Free Will is a thing that people can chase their tails on in explanation. It is a paradox in and of itself. God knows how we will walk and what we will do so he calls our actions before we commit them. Which on the same note being that his word does not return void, because he spoke it so it is. One of the beautiful complexities found in the truth of God.
At 20:45 claming that "...ALLAH, KEN HAM and those TYPES OF PEOPLE" is in fact an Ad Hominem fallacy... the use of this tactic make people wonder if the speaker has been honest or it's just a lack of argumentation. But one thing is true, making fun of other christian brothers is a shame on this ministry.
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Thank you ❣️
I love the extent they go to undermine the Bible by saying the first two chapters of Genesis are not true history. If that were true what was Jesus referring to when He said, "Haven't you read..."? If it was just allegory you could not refer to it as the beginning.
@John Paul LOL, is that supposed to be an argument? "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God (1 Corinthians 1:18)." I will pray for you and that your heart encounters the living God before your mockery leads you to an eternity where you will be forgotten.
Absolutely and believing in evolution puts death before sin. But if death is wages of sin, we would have a weird contradiction and therefore Jesus's death would be in vain. That is why Genesis matters!
God's moral law is NEVER obsolete!
Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good! The Lord looks down from heaven on the entire human race; he looks to see if anyone is truly wise, if anyone seeks God. But no, all have turned away; all have become corrupt. No one does good, not a single one!
Psalms 14:1-3
There is no god.
Anytime you want to let us know what God is, how to detect it, etc., we'll be listening. Or you could keep quoting verses without demonstrating anything. Your call.
@@drumrnva if you want to know who or what god is,just read the bible bro.I dont have time to argue
@@drumrnva Well i could go deeper into this with the cosmological argument and it proves that there has to be a God out there. That space, matter, and time had to be created. In fact eistein confirmed this on the theory of relativity. So whatever created space matter and time has to be, spaceless, timeless, immaterial, personal, why personal? In order to choose to create something, and powerful. These point the existance outside of the universe. I could go into other arguments but this is the most scientific based one.
@@matthewsamuel2262 Very insightful.
Great Questions, Great answers
When you read Genesis one and then move through to Genesis 10 and really read and understand and believe it for what it says, it's impossible to deduce anything other than a six day creation and the addition of the genealogies it's nearly impossible to get anything other than around 6000 years.
Why should I care about what Chip believes? How can he seduce people into believing in deep time?
Well if you logically want to think about it, there is no reason to assume our dating of this planet is even accurate. Nor could we even assume how the Earth came to be, because we are not able to recreate the event and test it over and over again like real science would do. Since we cant really test the theory, there is no real reason to believe it. That if you want to be very logical about the current situation. So God making everything 6,000 years ago could be possible, and the incest at that early stage could have lead to our current state of mankind. Who really knows, no one really.
Correct. The Genesis account is mythological! Just as Christianity is.
@@SilenceDogwood. Yes, Chris, yes we can.
Good Atheist-Channels exist a lot: 'Genetically Modified Sceptic' and 'Belief it or not' and if
you can take 'less polite' fellas (cause they are more 'direct', which isnt negative nor positive in itself): 'Viced Rhino'!
Thank you brother this is amazing teaching
When God saves someone, no one says no to God, Jesus says He loses none of all that The Father gives Him, if that's was the case He loses way more than He Saves, Jesus is not a weak begger but a powerful Savior.
We know in Canada that Jesus is coming back soon...is it in my time or 50 years from now i dont know...i believe its very very soon..myself...just a feeling❤❤❤❤❤
1:03
Reproduction is really incredible. I can't state anything really because I forgot it, one day I have to learn it I think but now.... All those receptors and reactions and molecules and what happens and even cilia are involved and.... Just incredible
@@bones2614 but it definitely wouldn't prove that universe came from nothing, A creation without creator!
@@bones2614 yes let's just trust the scientists who come up with postulates after postulates disapproving the previous ones with a much better to fit their bill i.e, this is just a random accident. Your argument is as presumptuous as mine, considering that you believe scientists who have nothing to prove except that all there exists in the universe..
@@bones2614 religion pretending to know everything? Not even a single religious book tend to explain how the universe is formed in detail. Infact religious ppl give the benefit of doubt to God, hoping that since we cannot have answers to all the mysteries and how this universe was made by God, let's just stop assuming things by taking the present state of affairs as a control to *assume ' conditions back when universe was created by assuming big bang , by assuming evolution and filling in the missing gaps according to their biases that fits into their theory.
@@bones2614 refining ideas only comes from accepting that the base theory was true in all of its sense. Which means the scientists should literally be there when the universe was created to give such a solid unequivocal theory about the formation of universe. The fact that they are complacent in putting some other theories to test is a dishonest, biased, approach to understand what is at hand.
@@bones2614 fact of population genetics! A totally different Species coming from another species! Evidence indicates big bang and evolution.? Too many definitive statements. I wonder why don't you put to test the same evidence pattern in understanding the historical existence of Jesus christ.
Over 90% of people who don't believe that God exists have already said OMG, but it makes perfect sense, think about it, O = amazement caused by the beauty they see, M = My, because He Is Our , we were Created In His Image .
I thought that because of and since the fall of Adam we are all genetically predisposed to sin of all sorts.
The Fall of Adam is an allegorical mythical tale made up by unknown authors to explain human suffering.
The narrative assumes a Creator God that appears from nowhere,
creates a perfect world then changes His tune and decides to destroy what He created.
It's a story of schizophrenia that is present in the human brain.
@@JamesRichardWiley Your assumption is that god doesn't exist, so you explain everything away with limited worldly excuses.
You’re right 🙂
Looking back on my life I always felt there was a God----I don't remember wondering or searching God out. I lived an on again off again sinful life for many years. Then Jesus revealed Himself to me through the Holy Spirit! He talked with me, explained things to me and from that day on I was never the same. The best way I can describe our interaction is telepathy. After that, and the way my life was never the same doesn't mean my life was awesome. I experienced miracles and Divine interventions a lot and felt an inner peace like never before.
Over the years the Lord has been preparing me for end day events. He said I was a soldier in His army and there were many more like me. I believe one day He will gather us together to fight the evil in this world. Of course all guided by the Holy Spirit and we will fulfill our individual purposes while here on earth.
One day Jesus will come in the clouds to gather us together and take us to heaven!! A day I can't wait for but know I have to wait for.
God bless you all
Y would God need a long time to create the Earth? God doesn’t need any help to do anything, he doesn’t need an assist from time to grow anything. He created the world in 6 days and that’s what the Bible says. Jesus said “In 3 days I will rebuild the temple.” Was that over a long period too or was that 3 actual days?
Well God has lived for eternity so I don’t think time is an issue.
He could take long if he wanted to but why does that matter?
@@CameronDanielShaw matters because we act as if God needs help from time for the Earth to evolve.
I love this guy. His misplaced confidence is hilarious.
A comment from Chip referring to Satan saying, "Did God really say..." and then saying that if you throw out God's word we have nothing. I had a debate once with a person over whether Jesus encountered Satan after 40 days in the wilderness or not. This person said something like it was a metaphorical story and didn't really happen. I said no it was real and that this person was like Satan by saying, "Did God really say....". Satan was casting doubt on God's word, the person I was debating was casting doubt on God's word. I pointed out that this story was in 3 Gospels and therefore was part of the "2 or 3 witnesses to establish truth". The guy got all huffy and accused me of calling him Satan which was not true, I was just saying he was like Satan. Wolves come in many guises.
Atheist-Channel deserve to be
Heard.
They have valid questions to ask and valid criticism to make. Sometimes both at once.
If you always ignore that, guess what:
Yes-Sayers is what you surround yourself with.
Challenges is what you Avoid.
Problems are what you ignore.
Criticism is what you ignore hard - and we all know thats super-duper-healthy-tastic!!
The wolf in satan in him; all invisible except him.
It’s the Spirit of God talking through a believer to the man who has a another spirit.
Our fight is not against flesh and blood.
Great session! God bless you all!
why do hot dogs buns come in pack 12 but the winners come in packs of 10 ? 🤔
In case you break a few of the buns! 😉
Bc god.
This is a great evil... for sure.
Because they know the two extra hot dogs are usually given to the actual dog in you life?
It's a preferable question to, what's a hot dog made of? 😬
You may buy neither again if you get the answer.
🙏🙏🙏Thank You So MUCH For This🙏🙏🙏🙏
This is very important what I'm going to say here so listen up. If you don't know and study what the Bible says about how old the Earth is then just say it's not my expertise.. I haven't studied enough. The bible explains and talks about exactly how many years it was from Adam and Eve to Jesus Christ there is a timeline mathematical that cannot be refuted. Because it goes from Human to Human it's a genealogy of Jesus Christ bloodline from Adam and Eve to him so if you believe the Bible is true then that timeline goes to Jesus Christ. And that timeline was: 4000 years went past till Jesus was here and it's been 2000 years since his death roughly. So that equals around six thousand years if you don't believe this then you're saying the Bible is a lie. There is no debate, It says exactly how long one person lived till the next person and that person lived this long and begot shim and sham begot so-and-so.. and on and on.. it's a mathematical fact and its genealogy that was recorded. So if you or anyone says that it's not right or if somebody Didn't Do Right or added something then you're saying the Bible is false, and if that's false the whole Bible is false. You can't have some truth and some lies..its eaither all right or its all wrong. So if you believe what the Bible says the world is around 6,000 years old, the dinosaurs walked here 4000 years ago, they died after the flood everybody killed them till they were extinct as soon as they got off that boat probaly. The oxygen levels were higher Before the Flood and the bad UV rays were blocked by a sheet of ice that was up in the atmosphere -a firmament above the firmament or ground. it was like a greenhouse that's why they lived 900 years old so if you don't know what you're talkin about then just say I don't know. but now you know. And one more thing is theres no such thing as evolution because if its so than that means the Bibles a lie to because you had death before sin. By that i mean you had animals dieing untill finally they became a man...so that death before man..and the bible says its man than death. What brought death? Sin. So the man was here before death. Anybody who says or believes there was ANY SUCH THING as death before man is teaching deception and its important more than anything because if Satan can get everyone beliving the Bibles a lie hes got them. All Hes tryin to do is create doubt. Thats why you must understand there is no such thing as millions or billions of years...nor is there death before a man.
Cool. So it's all wrong. Agree 100%.
@@ismaelmelville47 my friend..none of it is wrong. Pray to Jesus Christ and ask Him to show you. Dont say in your heart you know anything but instead just simply ask Him. Tell Jesus if its all true to show you. If He is God He can do it. If not than you will know. But ask. If you dont ask you will be accountable. Read the Bible from front to back. Let Him show you. And again if you dont than you will be accountable because you had the chance. But please clear your mind of any hate or preconditioned thinking. Make your own decision and dont listen to no one except what Jesus shows you. Read it.
@@IMPORTANTVIDEOS7 I don't hate things that are not real. Parts of the Bible are clearly wrong and as you say all of it is therefore untrue. Cannot agree more. The earth is not flat, the sun does not revolve around the earth. 2 of every animal is not a viable population for survival. Mostly the natural world is far better described by science. Sorry but I don't believe much of the Bible at all.
@@ismaelmelville47 Ismael, my friend..its hard to know what to believe i know but science people dont know squat. Dont trust them unless its from the Bible or ancient text. My challenge to you is to call on Jesus and ask Him to show you what is true. Just do that. If He is God than He will be able to answer you, but make sure you ask..for He is a gentleman and doesnt intrude on us unless we ask. Just ask brother.
@@IMPORTANTVIDEOS7 OK I will. And my challenge to you is to simply think. Why many religions? If prayer worked for any of them they would be the one religion. So prayer does not work. So gods cannot be detected. All we have is claims of holy books that are not backed up by history or science. Just think.
This is such a wonderful video. 🎉had to download it. So, that I can re-watch it, and then learn how to approach others with this tactic. Thank you so much!
You need to be born again with the Holy Spirit. Even with modern Bible versions it's hard to understand. It's veiled to those who don't have hope in Christ. The Holy Spirit reveals scripture He unveils it.
John 3:3 2Corinthians 4:3-4
In 1 Samuel 23; David has a discussion with the Lord about what the people of Keilah will do with him if he stays there with Saul approaching. God spoke to David about 2 scenarios that never happened. Meaning "Pre-knowledge does not equate to predestination".
I love Frank, but he needs to find some fresh jokes 😉
lol he does say the same jokes a lot but theyre good analogies to make people understand the underlying message
And learn some science.
I’ve known many stand up comics and supported them all around the country, they all use the same jokes, if you find something that works you don’t change it for the few that have already heard your set. 😉
@@MartTLS Oh man, how I’d love to hear you debate him! He’d shred you like a lettuce! Lol 👍
Not everyone watches his videos on TH-cam over and over. These are brand new to audience after audience around the country. And if they work well to make his point, why change it?
It's hard to ask questions because you explain it so well. My question is, How did you go about knowing what you wanted to do with your life.
Answering Muslims:-- Lol my question is very simple dear, again listen carefully so that your mind can be liberated. I said in my question what do God mean by saying in Genesis chapter 1 vs 26 that let "US" make man in our image and likeness??? And keep in mind that's plural form meaning Jesus Christ the son of God was the word and was always with God from the beginning. It's a very simple question I am asking you even 5years old child might ask you. What do God mean by saying let US create man in our image??? Please answer if you think you actually know God he's beyond your understanding mortal man. And also I have another question too, are you one single person or you are two right now and do you believe you have a soul inside you which will make you two people or two entities because your body is already equals=1 so if we add your soul that will be equals=2 so the mathematical fallacy to your questions is 1+1=1 which is impossible according to Quran so mathematically your whole Quran is wrong to begin with. This is not to attacks on any Muslims or anything I respect Muslims alot but they need to wake up and see the reality of the fallacy of the book they believe in. It's a very simple question are Muslims one Or they're Two??? Do dey believe in souls apart from thier body which is only one right now????? That is mathematically do they believe that 1+1=1 meaning body is 1 which is physical and soul is two which is spirit or invisible that's another 1. Making it total two in one atleast that mathematically 2=1 ??? Or 1=2 either way they have much explaining to explain thier body and soul 1+1=1 or 1+1=2 so Quran itself is a mathematical fallacy and a complete lie.
I dont know anything about what the Quran talks about when it comes to souls but i do know why the word "us" was used when God formed man.
It refers to God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit. They are 3 seperate "entities" but under the same Godhead. They are all three God but from my knowledge play three seperate rolls in the grand plan if you will.
Eh, im lacking eloquent wording here...that is how i underatand it.
So when God said "let us make man in our image" He is speaking to the other two of the Godhead. Its an agreement that man was to be made in the likeness of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.
The weakness of these events is that you’d shut down with questions pending! When your audience is captive and hungry, feed them!
I don't think that the Shroud of Turin, matters much Frank.
Even _IF_ it's somehow real.
I like a lot of things that you bring up...
I just don't think that is one of them.
I don’t believe he thinks so either, just answering the question to the best of his ability. I almost never hear him speak upon the Turin outside of this question.
I was grieved to learn Frank believes the Shroud of Turin covered Jesus. God wouldn’t allow anything to be left behind on Earth that would cause people to focus more on that object than focusing on Jesus Christ. Ex. Why did God disallow the Israelites to know where Moses’ bones were buried? Because they would idolize his remains.
@@onlyimagine4 where did he say he believed? Stop assuming such stigma on tureks beliefs, he’s a man he’s not perfect, love him for what he is and the good he does. I’m sure there’s questionable things you believe that others would discount you right away, would you like to feel that way?
@@planetofkai He said at time stamp 2:02-2:11 “Appears to be a real crucified victim and probably is the shroud that covered Christ.” I wish I had assumed that. I don’t see where I said Frank was perfect. No person is, but God is and so is every word in the Bible. The shroud of Turin isn’t in the Bible so maybe we should be cautious to focus on that. This potentially COULD cause some to fall into the sin of idolatry. Some people are known to have traveled thousands of miles to see this piece of cloth. That’s idolatry. That’s why I think it’s grievous to put any energy or time into this subject. Stick to the Bible. You’ll never go wrong.
@@onlyimagine4 The Shroud is important to prove to non-Christian people who denied the resurrection, that Jesus was only a human and not divine. New science is bringing new knowledge to the age of the Shroud. If you see the new images it will take your breath away. It’s a continuous process to proclaim the cross and resurrection.