@@nickjones6651 I like the fact that plenty of evidence for my God exists and that the scales that covered my eyes and mind before I was born again have been removed that I may truly see.
@@ronarprefect7709 I agree that theres lots og things you Christians absurdly, fallaciously claim as evidence but why cant you provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of CREDIBLE evidence of your omnipotent omnipresent god who wants a relationship with me? Christians do CLAIM to have presented evidence but CLEARLY you cant present even the tinniest scrap of CREDIBLE evidence can you? We coukd sit down over a coffee and both agree what is credible evidence of 10,000 different objects. E.G 2 wheels and a steering wheel is evidence for a car, a spherical natural satellite 226000 miles away is evidence of the moon, plant with red flowers is evidence of a rose, electronic device with screen is evidence of a t.v. We would agree that the description of the T.V is NOT credible evidence of the natural sattallite and the rose description is NOT credible evidence of a moble phone! We would have agreement on 10,000 different objects! The only object that we would disagree on is when people claim the universe, 'look at the trees', hearsay in a book, or a logically fallacious philosophical argument is evidence that an unembodied MIND with power to speak universe's into existence from nothing and simultaneously read the thoughts of everybody in that universe just popped into existence from nothing! Its a total non sequitur! Why would 2 rational adults be able to agree what is, and what is not credible evidence of 10,000 different objects but NOT on this ONE proposition?
@@nickjones6651 Who said God popped into existence from nothing? That is nonsense. God didn't come into being, but is the only self-existent entity, existing outside of time and space and having created both. Further, you don't seem to now what a non sequitur is.
How in the world did I miss this a year ago? I am only seeing this right now and it is June of 2023. Last year around this time I was in Bocus del Torro Panama for 4 months. I still should not have missed this cus Dr Turek's presentations are like my 2nd priority in life after my son. 😁 I LOVE HIM, I ADORE HIM!! His beautiful precious merry heart is good medicine for my shattered heart and broken spirit. His voice is music to my ears, calming. His laugh makes me laugh. His smile is warm and bright like the beautiful sunrise I get up early every day to see. I can't wait to meet him in heaven!!! ❤
I’d seen clips of Frank Turek online before and had the opportunity to go to his speech. I did not regret coming at all. Overall amazing and entertaining speaker whether you agree or disagree with some of his points. I learned a lot just going to this as well, even though it was just relatively smaller summaries of the points in his book.
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I've never enjoyed reading but Dr. Frank Turek has made me even more fascinated by the bible. For someone to answer questions on the spot and deliver a message like he does, they must be led by the holy spirit. I've been writing down all the book recommendations and I think this is the year I'll finally become a book worm! Thanks Dr. Frank. 😁
It was the same with me. I never enjoyed reading anything hardly, but his lectures really encouraged it within me and I gave it a shot. So far I’ve read through quite a few of them and they are excellent, super informative and it created such a love and respect for God for me to understand him in this way. I would definitely recommend you read them!
such a great session! thank you for coming Dr. Turek! I think I've seen clips of your entire talk in fragments but I've never heard all of it together and was so encouraged. God has truly given us multiple points of external validation for being able to trust His word. My hope in and awe of God was increased as a result. Thank you for your ministry! And thank you to your crew for posting and making this video with segments to find answers to questions, so helpful!!
@@nickjones6651 Charles Darwin’s “Origins of Species” and Sam Harris’ “Free Will” are other good ones too. Tell me, why is human flourishing a good thing?
What the title should say is "I Don't Have the Balls To Live Without a Fairy Tale to Give My Life Meaning and Be a Good Person". Being an Atheist doesn't require faith unlike religion. It's accepting life as it is, caring for others because it's the right thing to do, loving for it's own wonderful sake, and having the balls not to lie to ourselves in order to make ourselves feel better and superior.
Greetings from Scandinavia! Amazing content like always. I could tell that it was quite demanding in the end for Frank but he was gracious and still gave incredible answers. God bless!
@@2ndPigeon YEP! Thankfully i do! People laugh at the jesus followers here! How does that help your case? Why did you run from the question? WHY can't you or frank present even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
Wow wow wow why would you respect such a charlatan? I appreciate hes got your money but why can't he provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
@@xixingpooh Yea ive watched this lecture in full several times and also many shorter videos showing parts of it! Did YOU watch it? Did you think about it? Did you ask if frank coukd support his baseless ASSERTIONs, logical fallacies and inability to present a coherent argument for your god?
I think this is a very effective presentation of arguments which vary from problematic to downright awful. I would encourage anybody to look at both sides of the argument not just the side you agree with. I have heard very convincing rebuttals to most of what Turek says here. I advise anybody not just to think these are good arguments until you have heard at least one counter to them. Only when you have heard both sides should you make up your mind. I think Turek is an impressive speaker and he's certainly given me some things to go and look up, but nothing here that I find remotely convincing regarding the existence of a god or the truth of Christianity.
I've seen several rebuttals of the cosmological argument and the argument of fine tuning but they always seem to fall flat or require belief in unproven theses like a multiverse, string theory or a continously rebirthing universe.
@@MartinHindenes Then you haven't heard what I would consider the best rebuttals. I've actually not heard a rebuttal that relies on a multiverse. They can include these things as options but that's not the same thing as relying on them. My rebuttal doesn't use it at all. The thing is, at best, the cosmological argument and the argument from fine tuning can lead you to hypothesis that God did the things the proponent points out. A hypothesis is not evidence. You need evidence to demonstrate a hypothesis is correct and no theist I am aware of has ever put forward any actual evidence to support their hypotheses. Apologists present these arguments as evidence but they are merely assertions devoid of evidence to support them. What's worse is that to consider them at all, apologists have to use cherry-picking and circular reasoning.
I am theist and I have lots of Scientific questions, and I reside here in the Philippines, accurately, Cebu, Visayas. I know Gottfried Wilhelm Von Leibniz, Isaac Newton, Johannes Kepler, Francis Bacon and most of those I mentioned contributed to theology. I am still 16 years old, and I wish to race against time to meet you in person. I am lazy sometimes, but still get an average of 91 in school. I want to be a scientist someday, I wish I can meet you in my lifetime Mr. Frank Turek
@@Peter-wl3tm And with regard to 1st peter.3:15, Do you have a single scrap of credible evidence of your god or is it just a CHILDISH MYTH used to socially control the simple minded Christians for money and to threaten innocent children into joining your evil cult?
@@nickjones6651 I have no problem representing my worldview, and giving evidence, but at this point I have no need, because I did not make claim, so therefore, I have no burden of proof. However, you made a claim calling Frank a "dishonest charlatan" so I'm asking you what exactly makes him a charlatan?
On the topic of Pharoh and God “hardening” his heart, could we also interpret it as symbolic in the sense that God didn’t physcially harden Pharohs heart but symbolically did through Moses? As in like each time God proved Himself through the actions of Moses (The staff turning to snake, the water turning to blood, etc.), Pharoh saw it and got upset and didn’t want to believe in the God of Israel therefore symbolically God hardened Pharohs heart even though not physcially? I think that’s a good explanation for the reasoning why it’s phrased like that. And the choice of words would be what Frank Turek said about the heart being heavier than a feather.
@@reality1958 To show that there are consequences to our actions and the rejection of God's will. If he would have let the Israelites go with any of the first 6 plagues it wouldn't have taken a 7th. Maybe you should ask why the Pharoah rejected God and reject Him over and over again. Ever tried to tell a know it all teenager what they are to do? When you oppose another person's will their hearts are hardened in a sense that they don't want you telling them what they should do! The Pharoah's heart was already hard because of the power he wielded and to tell him what to do would further harden his heart, that's what the hardening means!
@@reality1958 That's like a child telling a parent how they should parent! He is the Creator of the universe, you are in no place to judge Him just as a child is in no place to tell their parent what is fare and what isn't. Knowing God and His just and righteous way those babies are right there with Him since they knew no sin and that's why we are punished by God. Romans 6:23 King James Version 23 For the wages of sin is death You, just like every other unbeliebing sinner don't want anyone telling them what they should and shouldn't, especially a Gid they can't s see so you look to find a way to make Him unworthy of following.
@@MyRoBeRtBaKeR And why shouldn't a child tell their parents how they should parent, if they think they're doing a bad job? What if the parent is abusive?
@@joshuakohlmann9731 lol, How does "a child" know what is right or wrong unless the parent teach them? Children believe they can stay up all night, eat all the sugar they want and should be allowed to run with knives. Your logic just doesn't work!
At 2:03:05 you stated that the third day had to be longer because of the growth of vegetation. I want to say that doesn’t hold up and here’s why. It also takes longer for animals to grow s as well as humans. Yahweh also created Adam and Eve as fully grown adults. With that being said, when Yah created everything, everything was at its mature growth with the information in dna to then grown and reproduce at His desired rate. Also the word day that was used in Hebrew was Yom, which represented a 24 hour day. Lastly, we only know the round trip speed of light, not the direct speed. With creation being itself a miracle, it is easily understood by the text that when Yahweh created everything, He did so to its completion.
"For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty." II Peter 1:16
Christ is the only perfect man that walked this earth and He is the judge and jury. We all are accountable to Jesus alone on judgement day. We worship no man, all praises go to GOD alone. Hebrews 12:2 👑
Hi @Cross Examined / Frank Turek ! Ive a question. Its about Cain, Abel and meat. From Genesis (KJV): 4:2 "And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground." 9:3 "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; " -> It seems that _meat eating_ was only allowed after the flood when God made a covenant with Noah. -> Question *A* For what purpose did Abel keep sheeps? 4:4 "And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect." -> Question *B* It seems that God respected _sin_ , why? Ps. Im not a native english speaker, but also my local translation doesnt seem to change a dot about this. Bless your good work !
2:49:15. Hot vs cold. He wasn’t saying you shouldn’t be cold. The meaning was either be cold, which is refreshing to the body or be hot which is healing to the body but Luke warm is neither…Luke warm is a reference to one foot in the kingdom and one in the world so to speak. Look up Voddie Bauchams’ sermon on revelation chapter 3. He explains it way better.
Why does everything with religion need personal interpretation? Example: " In the beginning god created..." care to interpret this impossible claim? Verifiable evidence is acceptable, personal opinions are not
@@professorneturman2249 there’s a difference between personal interpretations and proper exegesis of scripture… But you clearly wouldn’t know anything about that and another thing… Like I stated before, you have no verifiable evidence of there being any change of kinds so please add the same amount of scrutiny that you do to Christians to yourself and watch how quickly your worldview breaks down
@@professorneturman2249 And another thing…! There is a difference between religion and theology. Do you understand the difference? Religion is a man response/in many cases man made ordeal; But theology on the other hand teaches you about the attributes of the most high and His purpose for us
@@professorneturman2249 you really need me to explain what worldview means? It’s how you perceive the world…your philosophy about life and about how the world works and its conception. Like I explained to you before, according to your philosophy, ideology, and presuppositions about creation and evolution…makes morality Arbitrary, which leaves your worldview bankrupt.
There is plenty of information out there to come to the conclusion that God exist. Science is very limited to what in can answer. It cannot answer how we got here or why we are here.
The fact that we don’t know doesn’t mean god exists. To conclude scientifically that there are divine forces, there must be evidence pointing to the existence of such forces. There is none.
@@jeffphelps1355 Hints of intelligent design. Signs that a global flood happened. Proof that 2 humans populated the earth. Do you know how much inbreeding that would be?
@@alphabeta1337 Ahhh i see.....so its the strawman of atheism you're going for! THANKS FOR PLAYING!!! YOU LOSE! Atheism is defined as a disbelief/rejection in claims of a god in 7 out of 8 google dictionary definitions of the word atheism! How much FAITH is required to disbelieve or reject childish claims of pixies goblins fairies thor Allah Odin your god the flying spaghetti monster or tapdancinng elephants on the moon due to a total lack of credible evidence?
Atheism is the denial of God. There is no evidence for Atheism. All Atheists do is explain away God and creation with unproven theories. Pretty much every important scientist accepted God as fact.
@@alphabeta1337 @Alpha Beta Ahhh the strawman again!!! Im not denying any god! Show me a god that im denying!!! Where is he? Wheres this god that im denying? I love your appeal to authority fallacy! Tell me are people like alan guth and sean Carroll theists? And of all the culturally indoctrinated scientists from the past why couldn't a single one of them produce a single scrap of credible evidence of your god? And most importantly why did you run from the most pertinant question i asked? How much FAITH is required to disbelieve or reject childish claims of pixies goblins fairies thor Allah Odin your god the flying spaghetti monster or tapdancinng elephants on the moon due to a total lack of credible evidence?
I Thought the question what would you say when you get to Glory? is the easiest to answer. I know what I will be saying, and I think I know what everyone else will be saying? "Holy Holy Holy Lord God Almighty Who Was and Is and Is to come!" as well as "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." For what it's worth?
@@bedtimesd.1247 Nope i really wouldnt! Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that adam and eve EXISTED or they can be discarded! Didnt god create everything including bone cancer in children? Isnt your god omnipotent? Couldn't he stop this with one wave of his finger? So its your god who's responsible isnt it? Not 2 different fictious charectors. Why is your god the most evil monster in all mythology?
@@nickjones6651 So I assume what you said about what your would say is disingenuous since you sound like you do not believe in God anyway. I do know exactly what you would say standing before God. " "
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Dr. Turek says that he thinks some of these denominations are good because people like to worship differently. "For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 1Co 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?" and "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 1Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. 1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 1Co 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" also "For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 1Co 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you." You see here that the only good division is one that comes in accordance with the bible and against heresy. If you then have a division that is according to mere carnality, that is not good for either and is not the sort of division God wants. If the division is to protect the purity of the church, that is good for those who are not going astray, but bad for those they are being forced to separate from. You don't get a good division that is an improvement on that unity for both groups. God wishes for unity in His people, but not at the expense of right doctrine or failing to purge the church of evil men who refuse to repent. It disturbed me that Dr. Turek said this.
What talent does frank have? Is it the talent for exploiting the simple minded Christians for money without being able to present a single scrap of credible evidence of your god?
@@nickjones6651 all you athiest do is complain instead of refuting the arguments. Stubborn fools will reject every evidence for God because they hate God and dont want there to be a God. You will be in for the shock of your lives on the day of judgment
@@bss7254 Errr NOPE! All us atheists do is ask you for CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of your omnipotent omnipresent omnibenevolent god who wants a relationship with me which should be trivially simple to provide. Why cant you do it? And what does it say about your claim when you can't?
Am a Christian but to explain things from the view of an atheist psychologically I think their lack of belief in God stems from A. The evolution of the world from science without the help of a supernatural encounter (at least that's what they think)...or B. The sense of free will they get knowing that they could live life as they wish without the judgement of a higher being....I think for the most part it has more to do with B than A because a lot of religious countries are also advanced with medicine and science but they still believe in God. B is the main reason for their lack of belief ...and I get it. Take for instance a kid who's parents just won't let him do anything fun.. it really bums the kid out and sometimes he d wish he wants or has no parents either way u wanna put it. in actual sense he needs them..just like God we don't want God... because of his judgement...but we need him. I don't know if that makes sense and why do need him? Because we need a standard for morality..and don't tell me why humans can't be a standard for morality... that's because we are humans with opinions you tell me yours I tell you mine. Humans cant be a standard for morality. In summary of this God does exist.... even the atheist has it just at the back of his mind deep within his mind he knows that According to his beliefs 95% of the time there might be not a proof of God's existence ...but then they know that maybe just maybe there a could be that 5% chance that God does...but then again that's the Whole point of God's glory to make that 5% counts in regards to the 95%....I mean he shows up when we least expect he doesn't need to prove his existence anymore than a boy needs to prove his a boy or a girl needs to prove she s a girl...his essence alone speaks of him.
Im afraid you're mistaken Michael. The reason we're atheists is because when asked you cant provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god and whem asked all we get is the sort of PITIFUL, transparent appologetics that frank has displayed on this video. Isnt that phenomenally reasonable?
Secondly you say we need god for MORALITY! Quite the contrary sir. Why on earth would us DECENT people take lessons in MORALITY from the the most evil monster in all mythology? Arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. WHY would us DECENT people take lessons in MORALITY from a being such as THAT?
@@nickjones6651 Decent HA! Did u just call humanity Decent! Humanity is far from Decent.. Decent wouldn't need to have sex with little boys Decent wouldn't be to porn actresses and actors. Decent wouldn't need to have sex with animals beastiality which is practice today ..and many many other things all of this that you mentioned jealous control freak homophobic..that's what we humans practice today and have been practicing for Ages.....that's doesn't disprove the existence humans. who lived and died before us....I didn't mention humanity in general cuz then u say we have proof of human because am human your human and what not. I had to mention those who are long gone before us ages ago. cuz then you d have no proof to claim they actually existed other than documents...Guess what we also have written documents on God. but you still don't believe. So in regard to jealous and control freak...I mean I guess you could be right but why didn't Jesus practice those if he was God. Listen dude I could go on and on with you on this and I d still give you a thousand reasons for the existence of God
@@nickjones6651 look at you ignoring everything around is the concrete evidence that God exist what kind of stupidity are you believing nothing created all things 😂😂
@KrazyTecho Present any _evidentiary fact_ that goes toward demonstrating the existence of a god and I will gladly discuss it with you. You can present _any_ evidentiary fact in a paragraph or two. So you have no excuse to not introduce one of these evidentiary facts. But you will not even attempt to do so. WATCH!!
@@theoskeptomai2535 what do you mean by evidence? What do you approve as evidence i depends on the person. Because you already seem hard headed as it is. Instead of refuting the evidence here you ask for more. Very reasonable of you😄 you should really learn to take the burden of responsibility
Hey Frank. I'm a JW. I like and agree with many of your thoughts, but your "Abbott and Costello" triangle to explain the Trinity is ridiculous and not supported by the Bible. I understand the scriptures you use to support the Trinity but that triangle doesn't support those scriptures.
It is so freeing that you waste your time commenting here. How great it is to be free i.e ..only an exotic worm food factory ( they like their humans aged at 70+ years if possible so please look both ways before crossing the street )
You aren't free from sin, and if you die in your sin, you will end up in hell. After watching this video, it should have been clear that God not only exists, but He is the God of the bible, Jesus. I pray that you repent and follow Jesus!
@@Godlimate If Turek hasn't convinced you, you can try watching Dr. Hugh Ross, and Dr. William Lane Craig. However, because the evidence is so overwhelming, you're likely in the group that knows God exists, but just doesn't want to believe in Him. You don't want to accept it, and would rather continue in sin for this short blip of existence, compared to eternity. It's not worth it, not even close. I pray that you repent and be born again as well.
Q&A is definitely the best, so many interesting thoughts and perspectives, and Frank is always patient and sharp as a tack, not to mention indefatigable! I wonder if the main presentation could be distilled even further, kind of like cliff notes. For me I've seen it a lot, but for new audiences. Superb job as always.
@@nickjones6651 now why would a bitter atheist be on this channel other than to antagonize. Nick, come on back from the dark side it's ok. And don't worry, your pseudo-intellectual friends won't even give a crap that you left them, trust me.
@@nickjones6651 it's not up to me to prove your assertion, you prove your own claim, that God doesn't exist. So you're that one perfect individual who is incapable of lies and has no flaws, people are looking for you.
@@buckybarnes3803 Why are xhristians so dishonest and morally bankrupt? And i ask the question you dodged AGAIN! Why cant frank or you provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
Whether GOD exists or not is an issue that you will wrestle with for the rest of your life. If GOD does not exist then no problem. But IF GOD exists then atheists and the like have HUGE problem. If you have never encountered any evidence that suggests GOD's existence please do not blame Christians for not convincing you. We all have a preference on what, why, and how to believe. Nobody is forcing you or anyone to believe that the Christian GOD exists. All you can do is ASK and that's it. Whether the answer is enough does not matter so long that GOD does not exist. Believing in GOD benefits me more than rejecting it. You, my friend, on the other hand, should stop waiting for evidence because nothing will come to you.
@@ziarchiveofficial there's no reason to believe in a god, it's not an issue to me... Maybe if a theist could meet their burden of proof I might actually be interested, but no Theist in history has accomplished that goal..
@@badideass you don't have to believe if you don't to and nothing can change your mind. No proof can ever convince you as well. As Jesus Christ said that there are people who will still not believe even if someone rose from the dead. You don't have to be interested to be convinced. Just live your life the way you wanted. Christians' job is not to convince people to believe in the first place. Christians are called to SHARE the gospel and live their life in service to GOD.
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence I must consider when evaluating the claim by theists and as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
@@jkinze why not though? If god created us, he/she/it should be tangible just like us. Something physical causes something else that is physical, and we are all connected this way because everything that is physical is more or less made up of the same components. But no… we can’t consider this because it upsets my personal tradition/relationship with an imaginary thing. No we can’t have this, we must desperately seek the cheapest philosophical argument to maintain our position.. ahh here we are: epistemology 101: we can’t ultimately know certain truth, therefore god exists just as much as you exist. Total joke of an argument. This is what truth has lead us down to in desperation for the sake of our own insecurities.
@@Godlimate God came to earth as a man, Jesus. There is tons of evidence and the Bible is not just one. Mind you the bible is comprised of several individual historical documents, even their style writings are different.
Believers aren't evil because we're in Christ. Philippians 3:9 💝 "and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith"
@@NewCreationInChrist896 They are considered evil by the very document that contains the thing they don't believe in? Don't you think that's a tiny little bit circular?
One is all it takes to know he has no clue what he's talking about. Apologetics don't provide evidence for their claims, they only demand you support yours, they are very dishonest people
Are you Mike Dillahunty? "I'm not convinced, so what you say must not be a sound reasoning". Plenty of sound reasoning to support God's existence. Whether this video or William Lane Craig's stuff or someone else's. Unless you are saying that these Christians do not have sound reasoning?
Here’s an atheist perspective. You say god exists, and I ask for convincing scientific evidence. You provide none whatsoever, so I don’t believe you. It’s that simple. No, I don’t believe that god doesn’t exist, I reject your unproven claim that he does. Atheism is a belief in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby,
You are asking for the wrong kind of evidence, you are really asking for philosophical evidence. Imagine me asking you for scientific evidence for science, you would never be able to produce it. So ask for the right first then we can move forward.
@@souzajustin19d Here’s some advice. Before you try to convince someone that god exists, pretend you’re trying to convince someone that Santa exists, and see if your argument still holds up.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 It obviously does hold up, there is entire section in philosophy about the existence of God. Your first problem is you assume God must be some type of myth. You wont get far thinking the existence of God is irrational. If you have the time and money go take a basic philosophy class at your community college, you will quickly realize this argument is not easy as you think it is.
Your assumption is flawed. Science is used to explain the world (universe) we live in. God exists outside of the universe, therefore, science cannot provide evidence of God. Science also doesn't explain many other things such as logic which is first required to do science. Your entire approach to the existence of God is backwards just as if you used science to explain logic.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 Yes! because you can personally witness them. In other words there is evidence that support your belief. The point is that they are within reason, and logical . Blind faith isn't reasonable, or logical. It is a claim of truth, without being logical, or reasonable. That's why there aren't any theories for a god., because there's nothing to base it on. The word faith in this video implies that there is only one meaning for the word faith. Actually there are more then one. It requires zero faith not to believe. It only requires faith when you speaking of future events becoming true. I have faith that the sun will come tomorrow is faith based on past experience. If I claim the sun will not come up tomorrow. I have no past experience to base my claim on, and it is blind faith. Now which faith is the video using. As an atheist I have no past experience, or am I aware of a god. So no faith is required. Only if I had the least amount of evidence could I believe there is a god. And this is with the recognition that I hold beliefs for the soul purpose of limited information. It doesn't mean that I belief my beliefs are fact. .
2:04:40 "you have to know what God means".... No you don't. You just have to assert, conjecture, or just read out loud what the Bible says about God. Because let's make sure we don't forget that nobody can really say *anything* about God in a way that can be proved, or falsified.
Yes, I've read the testimony of a famous martyr for freedom in India, called Sardaar Bhagat Singh who was an atheist. When his verdict was passed to be 'hanged by the neck till death', he wrote how other prisoners quickly started praying, crying, etc. But he had no such hope. Death would be the end, and facing the death sentence required so much more courage.
When you tell a child not to do something that he has set in his mind to do, you harden his heart to oppose your will because it contradicts what he feels he should be able to do. So when God commanded the Pharoah to let His people go this command then hardened the Pharoah's heart!
@@desmodus5635 Let them choose to do drugs, defy authority figures, what gender they want to be, dictate what the parents allow them to do? Is that the non child abuse way? To teach them in the way they should go is child abuse huh? The sad thing is you really believe what spews out of your mouth! Are you a devil worshipper?
@@MyRoBeRtBaKeR I believe you should encourage children to ask difficult questions, doubt what they’re told, and think critically about everything. I have not met a single religious parent who does that.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 You don't have to encourage difficult questions, life will cause the difficult questions. Such as "where do baby's come from, Tommy asked", "why did mommy die daddy? You never encourage doubt as a parent either and definitely not what they teach. "Son, don't believe everything I've told or teach you", said no parent ever!
@@MyRoBeRtBaKeR You need to work on your reading. I believe you should encourage them to never believe anything just because they’re told to believe it. Explain why and how your teachings are true. Teach them to accept the explanation that makes sense, and follow the evidence wherever it leads.
Amen we're in a blood bought covenant with Jesus Christ, believers can not lose God, GLORY! Matthew 26:28 💝 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. "Ephesians 1:13-14 🕊 "In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory."
hey Frank. When the kid asked if God would be unjust to not save someone, your answer made sense. But people need to realize that God is not obligated to save anyone. Justice would be sending us all to hell. So if God chose not to save anyone , He would still be good
We deserve an eternity of everlasting hellfire for the crime of being created? You aim to teach children that they are born broken, and need to beg forgiveness to their creator for creating them that way? For lack of a better word, that is f*cked.
Errrr nope! Your answer means he's not omnibenevolent as the Christian god is claimed to be. Quod ERAT DEMONSTRANDOM the god of the bible you Christians claim doesn't EXIST.
@@nickjones6651 that was for people who know they are sinners. A good God hates evil. If we are evil, He does good to punish us. Some people just don't like that But He provided the way out through His Son, Jesus Christ. Trust in Him
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 a Good God hates sin and evil. Sin and evil must be pretty bad if the penalty is so large. It just shows me how good God is. And merciful. Don't miss the opportunity to be saved
This book. co-authored with the late Dr. Norman Geisler, is a strong defense of biblical Christianity. Historical and theological facts. Read it. You will get insight into some eternal truths.
Not really. Tureks a seorce of fun and derision to us. Its hillarious to see someone continually spread the same laughable PATHETIC ridiculous, PITIFUL arguments that he cant support and exploiting the simple minded xhristians for money tp the tune of $1.6 million!
Not on the orthodox teachings. If disagreement on certain issues dismisses the concept of truth, then even atheists are in a huge dilemma. Carrier believes Jesus Christ did not exist. Bart Ehrman does. One is right.
One more thing, naming the animals wasn’t that hard back then because there wasn’t as many as there are today.. neither here or there but even the seventh day…again Yahweh had Moses use the word yom, which again, 24hr day. When Yah had the Israelites rest on the seventh day, He didn’t mean for it to go on forever…Yah was very deliberate and specific. I love you Frank, but I beg you to do your research on this. Because if we poorly exegete the book of Genesis in this way, why not the rest? Also, Yah is infinitely just, loving, merciful, etc , which means hell is infinite because God’s justice is infinite. I believe it was C.S. Lewis that said Hell is as bad as God is good.. since we know God is infinitely good.. hell is infinitely bad…scary
KJV: For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Complete Jewish Bible: For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace." הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם: Now we see that Isaiah 9:6 is about a baby born to be the future king of Judah. There is no suggestion that he was “the mighty God”, because it is “the mighty God” who supposedly calls him the prince of peace. This theme is carried forward into Isaiah 9:7, which says he will sit on the throne of David to establish his kingdom and support it with justice and righteousness
I was just listening to that on my cd player a split second before I read your comment! Handel's Messiah - powerful stuff. Rightly considered his masterpiece.
Septuagint is older than the masoretic text. Also its pretty obvious that the Pharisees when compiling the the M-text added/subtracted to/from it to try and remove the divinity of Jesus.
this question reminds me of a quote: "Dying man couldn’t make up his mind which place to go to-both have their advantages, “heaven for climate, hell for company!” - Mark Twain.
The only thing id actually disagree with frank on is....the greatest miracle....id say the of free will is the greatest miracle and by extension humanity and its supported based on the evidence of how much god values us
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@@theoskeptomai2535 I don't know your circumstances but God is not a man that he should lie and he said if we seek we will find him and will answer anyone that calls on him.if you are truly sincere he will answer....it will be in his timeframe and his personal way.sometimes he just appears to people but most of the time he responds in a way that is personal to you....he absolutely positively will answer...it may not be the answer you wanted but he will.
@@warrenrodgers7544 Errr well he didnt answer monkey, Theo, millions of others nor did he answer ME either in 22 years as a Christian or in 30 years as an atheist. Is it possible that youve been lied to by your church? Why cant an omnipotent omnipresent omnibenevolent god who wants a relationship with me just say HELLO? The only reason i can think of is he cant say hello cos he isnt there. Do you have a better reason?
The speed of light has been manipulated by passing it through temperatures so the speed of light is not a constant it has been changed in labs! With that in mind the speed of light traveling through the universe can very well be manipulated. The. There the folding of time like black holes etc that can accelerate the speed of light!
It should come as no surprise that religious beliefs just experienced it's largest decline in a generation in America. Religious mythology has run it's course in America and most developed countries. Good riddance
I always love watching Frank's special kind of screamangelism, where he just yells and brow-beats until the person is converted or just runs away. Seriously though, I appreciate the work, but I always get a bit of a red flag when a person tries to tell us about God's mind and his intentions. Near the end a kid asks why God didn't kill Satan. The simple truth is we don't know. Its ok if we try to use scripture to understand why, but any opinion should be prefaced by "I don't know". Even Jesus was not privy to some information. ...for example, about end-times.
The theist is out to prove the atheist is out to disprove I'm neither out to prove nor disprove whatever is is whatever isn't isn't Mythology is very powerful in the human psyche
Isn't heresy just anyone who disagrees with you? It's a totally man-made and subjective construct and I'm not aware the word is ever mentioned in the Bible.
@@alphabeta1337 Atheism is simply saying "that God u believe in, .. i don't believe he exists" .. it doesn't say anything on the origins of life.. that's another deep question. I have no idea how everything came into being. It's beyond my comprehension.
@@Peter-wl3tm people who are opposed to Christian thinking, and are punished for daring to question the Bible in the past.. they were tortured and killed.
The young man speaks of a "progressive society" as if that is a good thing in and of itself, absent consideration of what the society is progressing towards. If the society is progressing towards God's will being done, then that would be a good progression. I don't think that is likely to happen before the Second Coming of Jesus. I think people who worry about having a "progressive society" seem to demonstrate wrong priorities. I am not saying individuals shouldn't seek the good of others--seek justice, mercy, and righteousness--but that the main purpose is to preach the gospel so that people will come to Jesus Christ for salvation.
@@nickjones6651 Since when did we get rid of Christian morality? It is codified into our laws to a large extent, and for good. "Thou shalt not kill", "Though shalt not steal", "Thou shalt not bear false witness"(perjury), are an integral part of civilized society. Modern education and science is largely owed to the belief in God. Public education came from people wanting everyone to be able to read the bible. Science largely came from men who wanted to understand the universe God made--and thereby God--better. The very notion of mercy towards others rather than brutality is based in Christianity and started before Christ came in the flesh.
Frank tries so hard to convinced people about the existence of a god but religion continues to decline in America as more people realizes that religion is no longer needed as science continues to give us the answers about the physical world
Do you think there is only a physical world? If so then what caused it? Also, science says nothing about morals. What is good and bad, and why? Did you know that ‘philosophy of science’ sits above science? For example science relies on the assumption that laws and findings will always behave the same way in the future as they did in the past. There is no guarantee for that; it’s just faith. Lots of things are outside of science.
@@danwilson5630The physical world is all we know, what cause it I don’t know science will eventually give us the answer. Frank’ biggest mistake is to try to correlate science with his religion which are non compatible. He needs to accept that his faith has no scientific back up.
@@fredcohen568Science is the understanding of the material world. The beginning of this existence is, by definition, outside of the scope of science. The scientific method is a great tool, but there are much wider questions which it cannot answer. Also we are beginning to uncover a huge amount of fraudulent findings in the scientific community. Knock, and it will be opened to you.
The following isn't an argument, but it is intersting. As religion has decrease in society, certain things have increased. For example, teen pregnancy, suicide, political corruption, drug use, high school dropouts, economic disparity, etc. Furthermore we didn't use to have gender confused kids and now we do. Correlation is not causation, but it is interesting.
In Genesis 1, "day" is exactly 24 hours. Consult the Jewish scholars on this. And yes, in other parts of the Bible, "day" may mean something else. And as for "hell", unsaved people do not suffer eternally since that would mean that they live forever as well. But only those who accept Jesus will have eternal life. Hell does not now exist (all the dead are asleep except a very few, e.g. Moses and those resurrected when Jesus died). There will be a hell when Jesus returns the THIRD time to Earth. The unrighteous dead will be resurrected and immediately destroyed by fire (including Satan and the fallen angels). Hell is a brief moment (maybe a few days at most?) when all unrighteousness will be burned up, totally annihilated. God is love and just, so He cannot punish people eternally for sins they committed in this brief lifetime.
Why would us decent people believe you Christians when theres thousands of different versions of your own core claims? Why can't you guys get your own stories straight?
@@Mavors1099 Do you have enough courage to step out of the box of empiricism and into the higher level box of special revelation? Try it; you might be surprised. Many former vehement and vitriolic (militant) atheists have studied the Bible just to refute it but ended up accepting Christianity, e.g. C. S. Lewis.
@@nickjones6651 "us decent people" vs. Christians? LOL. BTW, except for a few fringe loonies (e.g. Jim Jones who claimed to be Jesus himself), Christians do have their core claims straight; we differ on the details.
@@ArroEL922 You're inviting me to quit my rationality.. no, thanks. Why do you believe in the "special revelation" of the Bible, but you reject the "special revelation" of Quran? How was Lewis a militant atheist? What did he do to actively promote atheism. Anyway, so what? Many former vehement Christians have left Christianity after studying the Bible: e.g. Bart Ehrman.
How does this make sense to anyone, Frank is an expert on God's nature. If it's unfalsifiable then why believe this nonsense? Abbott and Costello is right this is a comedy act.
Half awake. The earth is geocentric according to the Bible. So you peach a good story but fail to follow through fully, on Creationism as per The Holy Word of God.
What is there to fight. Atheism is simply the position of suspending any acknowledgment as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. Why is this position such a threat to you?
Anyone needing information on earth creation, dinosaurs, and the flood need to watch Kent Hovind’s creation seminar. It’s plain and simple at a 4th grade level and explains history and young earth creation that anyone can understand backed up with evidence.
Kent's higher education is in music and criminal history. His income is 600k.and 501 (c) 3 money. In a few months he'll be serving a 30 day jail sentence for domestic violence.
It still takes absolutely no faith at all to not believe the clearly fictional stories about gods that humans have come up with. If you cared about the truth at all, you would put your bible down and read some non-fiction instead.
@@ArroEL922 Lol are you an evolution denier like a flat earther or young earth creationist? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Do people laugh at you in the street kiddy?
@@nickjones6651 Of course, I totally reject Neo-Darwinian evolution, for scientific reasons. It just does not make sense. It is the evolutionist's fairy .... er.. monkey tale. Of course, if you want to believe in something that is demonstrably false, that's your prerogative.
@@ArroEL922 Lol you didnt answer. Do people laugh at you in the street? Tell me, is it actual evolution thats wrong or your strawman version of atheism? Do you even know what evolution is SONNY? Can you define it? Do you agree with the dictionary definition of change over time or biologists definition of adaptation and speciation or to get more technical a change in allele frequency over successive generations? Do you agree with these definitions that are proven FACT or do you have your own strawman version of evolution? Tell me what you think evolution is?
Whether GOD exists or not is an issue that you will wrestle with for the rest of your life. If GOD does not exist then no problem. But IF GOD exists then atheists and the like have HUGE problem. If you have never encountered any evidence that suggests GOD's existence please do not blame Christians for not convincing you. We all have a preference on what, why, and how to believe. Nobody is forcing you or anyone to believe that the Christian GOD exists. All you can do is ASK and that's it. Whether the answer is enough does not matter so long that GOD does not exist. Believing in GOD benefits me more than rejecting it. You, my friend, on the other hand, should stop waiting for evidence because nothing will come to you.
Can someone explain to me why KJV translation proves how Christianity is built on LIE? KJV: For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Complete Jewish Bible: For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace." הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם: Now we see that Isaiah 9:6 is about a baby born to be the future king of Judah. There is no suggestion that he was “the mighty God”, because it is “the mighty God” who supposedly calls him the prince of peace. This theme is carried forward into Isaiah 9:7, which says he will sit on the throne of David to establish his kingdom and support it with justice and righteousness
Jesus claimed and proved countless times he was god. Christianity is built on the resurrection of christ. Every translation has differences. Thats why its better to study scripture from multiple sources. Bottom line, the message is still the same. Jesus is god.
The Bible is clear that God elected a people to salvation. Every person's will is sold out to Satan. In of himself, the unsaved person would never choose God. God has to do all the work to save someone, but He only chose to do so for a remnant.
@@nickjones6651 Being decent or not has absolutely nothing to do with it. Actually, nobody "decent" will believe the Bible---truly believe it. God has to open a person's eyes to truth.
@@terminat1 Damn RIGHT bible believers arnt decent. Nice of you to admit it! You then speak of TRUTH. Is it the truth that your god made the universe, made humans and that xhristians are moral or is it a complete LIE used to socially control the simple minded xhristians for money
@@nickjones6651 You misunderstood me. Nobody is "decent" by nature. By nature, every person is in rebellion against God. The only ones who will finally implicitly trust the Bible are those whom God saves. They are righteous in God's eyes because they have the righteousness of Christ. The Bible is the Word of God. So, yes, it's true that God created the universe and also humans in His image.
@@terminat1 @Meredith Fayer ARE YOU REALLY insulting my baby in that manner? Do you REALLY want to do that? Why are you insulting my 3 month old baby? What sort of person ARE YOU? You claim your god made the universe. We have a better explanation with actual credible evidence that the universe formed by the release of energy at the big bang. 1. Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that your god did it? 2. You claim your god made man. Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that your god had anything whatsoever to do with it? We have a better explanation with actual credible evidence that man evolved from lower primates. 3. You claim god made woman. Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that your god made woman from Adams rib? We have a better explanation with actual credible evidence that woman evolved from lower primates. 4. You claim xhristians are moral. Will you condemn an evil monster who IF YOUR OWN BOOK is correct callously and needlessly killed an estimated 10 million or more innocent babies that he had the power to remove from noahs flood and give new moral parents or are you immoral by any independent standard? Thats 4 of the very main claims your book. Please answer them or it seems your book and religion is TOTALLY DISCREDITED!
I love his patience and compassion, particularly with the young man who said he was struggling with sin.
Do you like the fact that hes a charlatan who cant provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your God?
@@nickjones6651 I like the fact that plenty of evidence for my God exists and that the scales that covered my eyes and mind before I was born again have been removed that I may truly see.
@@ronarprefect7709 I agree that theres lots og things you Christians absurdly, fallaciously claim as evidence but why cant you provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of CREDIBLE evidence of your omnipotent omnipresent god who wants a relationship with me?
Christians do CLAIM to have presented evidence but CLEARLY you cant present even the tinniest scrap of CREDIBLE evidence can you?
We coukd sit down over a coffee and both agree what is credible evidence of 10,000 different objects. E.G 2 wheels and a steering wheel is evidence for a car, a spherical natural satellite 226000 miles away is evidence of the moon, plant with red flowers is evidence of a rose, electronic device with screen is evidence of a t.v.
We would agree that the description of the T.V is NOT credible evidence of the natural sattallite and the rose description is NOT credible evidence of a moble phone!
We would have agreement on 10,000 different objects!
The only object that we would disagree on is when people claim the universe, 'look at the trees', hearsay in a book, or a logically fallacious philosophical argument is evidence that an unembodied MIND with power to speak universe's into existence from nothing and simultaneously read the thoughts of everybody in that universe just popped into existence from nothing!
Its a total non sequitur!
Why would 2 rational adults be able to agree what is, and what is not credible evidence of 10,000 different objects but NOT on this ONE proposition?
@@ronarprefect7709 Cite the best verifiable scientific evidence for your gods existence.
@@nickjones6651 Who said God popped into existence from nothing? That is nonsense. God didn't come into being, but is the only self-existent entity, existing outside of time and space and having created both. Further, you don't seem to now what a non sequitur is.
How in the world did I miss this a year ago? I am only seeing this right now and it is June of 2023.
Last year around this time I was in Bocus del Torro Panama for 4 months. I still should not have missed this cus Dr Turek's presentations are like my 2nd priority in life after my son. 😁 I LOVE HIM, I ADORE HIM!! His beautiful precious merry heart is good medicine for my shattered heart and broken spirit. His voice is music to my ears, calming. His laugh makes me laugh. His smile is warm and bright like the beautiful sunrise I get up early every day to see. I can't wait to meet him in heaven!!! ❤
I’d seen clips of Frank Turek online before and had the opportunity to go to his speech. I did not regret coming at all. Overall amazing and entertaining speaker whether you agree or disagree with some of his points. I learned a lot just going to this as well, even though it was just relatively smaller summaries of the points in his book.
I have no words to say I appreciate this video, so I’ll just applaud it. Thank you Dr Frank Turek 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
What are those that last two emojis? They look weird and even a bit risque.
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They are praying hands. 😊
I've never enjoyed reading but Dr. Frank Turek has made me even more fascinated by the bible. For someone to answer questions on the spot and deliver a message like he does, they must be led by the holy spirit. I've been writing down all the book recommendations and I think this is the year I'll finally become a book worm! Thanks Dr. Frank. 😁
It was the same with me. I never enjoyed reading anything hardly, but his lectures really encouraged it within me and I gave it a shot. So far I’ve read through quite a few of them and they are excellent, super informative and it created such a love and respect for God for me to understand him in this way. I would definitely recommend you read them!
I'm trying to read a lot more bettering myself forcing myself too read because I just have to if I want to get better.
@@xixingpooh Reading isn't my cup of tea.
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Wow. So you got into reading and read these apologetic books?
How many of them?
@@xixingpooh Where can I purchase his books online ? What is the website ?
57:05 Damn... Sent chills down my spine, and a knot in my throat. Damn...
Excellent. Love the q&a session. I always learn so much from you. Thank you Dr Turek.
Can he teach you to present CREDIBLE evidence of your god?
@@nickjones6651 an apologetic preacher support his claims? Lol, don't we all wish
such a great session! thank you for coming Dr. Turek! I think I've seen clips of your entire talk in fragments but I've never heard all of it together and was so encouraged. God has truly given us multiple points of external validation for being able to trust His word. My hope in and awe of God was increased as a result. Thank you for your ministry! And thank you to your crew for posting and making this video with segments to find answers to questions, so helpful!!
I have that book. It’s well worth the price!
Ive read it to. Cant you find loo roll cheaper than that?
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Yes, it’s called “The God Delusion”.
@@thomasb4467 Is that cos one doesnt need a book to tell you god is a delusion?
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Charles Darwin’s “Origins of Species” and Sam Harris’ “Free Will” are other good ones too.
Tell me, why is human flourishing a good thing?
What the title should say is "I Don't Have the Balls To Live Without a Fairy Tale to Give My Life Meaning and Be a Good Person". Being an Atheist doesn't require faith unlike religion. It's accepting life as it is, caring for others because it's the right thing to do, loving for it's own wonderful sake, and having the balls not to lie to ourselves in order to make ourselves feel better and superior.
Greetings from Scandinavia! Amazing content like always. I could tell that it was quite demanding in the end for Frank but he was gracious and still gave incredible answers. God bless!
Did you watch a different video? It was pitiful!
WHY can't you or frank present even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
You live in an atheist country though
@@2ndPigeon YEP! Thankfully i do! People laugh at the jesus followers here!
How does that help your case? Why did you run from the question?
WHY can't you or frank present even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
@@nickjones6651 Did I mention your name?
@@2ndPigeon NOPE! My mistake. You didnt. You merely seemed to be defending frank and Christianity. Was i mistaken?
Frank when are you coming to California?
I hope Dr Frank Turek can roam all the states so he can spread all the presentation of christ to people to at least have an idea of christ.
My only thing that bothers me is that i wish millions would watch this.
This man is very entertaining. Everyone who makes videos and speeches should study this video. 🙂
Great job Dr. Turek!
Are you KIDDING? Same old B.S. arguments that he cant support! Why cant frank present even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your God?
@@nickjones6651 he just did. Where are your videos with creditable evidence that he 100% positively doesn’t exist?
Bad job as always Frank. Misrepresenting atheism and science. Classic apologist.
1:11:58 This needs to be preached more!!
GREAT seeing you in Dallas tonight Frank, come back soon bro! And thanks for that autograph and picture 👌
Wow wow wow why would you respect such a charlatan?
I appreciate hes got your money but why can't he provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
@@nickjones6651 Did you not listen to the lecture? Have you read the books? Doesn’t sound like it
@@xixingpooh Yea ive watched this lecture in full several times and also many shorter videos showing parts of it!
Did YOU watch it? Did you think about it? Did you ask if frank coukd support his baseless ASSERTIONs, logical fallacies and inability to present a coherent argument for your god?
@Nick Jones What logical fallacies? What assertion did he make that you claim he didn’t provide evidence for?
Xi Xing Pooh nick jones is a professional ad hominist, dont bother trying to reason with it.
I think this is a very effective presentation of arguments which vary from problematic to downright awful. I would encourage anybody to look at both sides of the argument not just the side you agree with. I have heard very convincing rebuttals to most of what Turek says here. I advise anybody not just to think these are good arguments until you have heard at least one counter to them. Only when you have heard both sides should you make up your mind.
I think Turek is an impressive speaker and he's certainly given me some things to go and look up, but nothing here that I find remotely convincing regarding the existence of a god or the truth of Christianity.
I've seen several rebuttals of the cosmological argument and the argument of fine tuning but they always seem to fall flat or require belief in unproven theses like a multiverse, string theory or a continously rebirthing universe.
@@MartinHindenes Then you haven't heard what I would consider the best rebuttals. I've actually not heard a rebuttal that relies on a multiverse. They can include these things as options but that's not the same thing as relying on them. My rebuttal doesn't use it at all. The thing is, at best, the cosmological argument and the argument from fine tuning can lead you to hypothesis that God did the things the proponent points out. A hypothesis is not evidence. You need evidence to demonstrate a hypothesis is correct and no theist I am aware of has ever put forward any actual evidence to support their hypotheses.
Apologists present these arguments as evidence but they are merely assertions devoid of evidence to support them. What's worse is that to consider them at all, apologists have to use cherry-picking and circular reasoning.
I am theist and I have lots of Scientific questions, and I reside here in the Philippines, accurately, Cebu, Visayas.
I know Gottfried Wilhelm Von Leibniz, Isaac Newton, Johannes Kepler, Francis Bacon and most of those I mentioned contributed to theology.
I am still 16 years old, and I wish to race against time to meet you in person. I am lazy sometimes, but still get an average of 91 in school. I want to be a scientist someday,
I wish I can meet you in my lifetime Mr. Frank Turek
Why would you want to meet a disgusting dishonest charlatan like frank?
@Nick Jones, why are you going around saying the same thing over and over?
@@Peter-wl3tm If the same questions come up from different people the answer is still the same isnt it?
@@Peter-wl3tm And with regard to 1st peter.3:15, Do you have a single scrap of credible evidence of your god or is it just a CHILDISH MYTH used to socially control the simple minded Christians for money and to threaten innocent children into joining your evil cult?
@@nickjones6651 I have no problem representing my worldview, and giving evidence, but at this point I have no need, because I did not make claim, so therefore, I have no burden of proof. However, you made a claim calling Frank a "dishonest charlatan" so I'm asking you what exactly makes him a charlatan?
On the topic of Pharoh and God “hardening” his heart, could we also interpret it as symbolic in the sense that God didn’t physcially harden Pharohs heart but symbolically did through Moses? As in like each time God proved Himself through the actions of Moses (The staff turning to snake, the water turning to blood, etc.), Pharoh saw it and got upset and didn’t want to believe in the God of Israel therefore symbolically God hardened Pharohs heart even though not physcially? I think that’s a good explanation for the reasoning why it’s phrased like that. And the choice of words would be what Frank Turek said about the heart being heavier than a feather.
@@reality1958 To show that there are consequences to our actions and the rejection of God's will.
If he would have let the Israelites go with any of the first 6 plagues it wouldn't have taken a 7th.
Maybe you should ask why the Pharoah rejected God and reject Him over and over again.
Ever tried to tell a know it all teenager what they are to do? When you oppose another person's will their hearts are hardened in a sense that they don't want you telling them what they should do!
The Pharoah's heart was already hard because of the power he wielded and to tell him what to do would further harden his heart, that's what the hardening means!
Seems counterproductive.
@@reality1958 That's like a child telling a parent how they should parent! He is the Creator of the universe, you are in no place to judge Him just as a child is in no place to tell their parent what is fare and what isn't.
Knowing God and His just and righteous way those babies are right there with Him since they knew no sin and that's why we are punished by God. Romans 6:23
King James Version
23 For the wages of sin is death
You, just like every other unbeliebing sinner don't want anyone telling them what they should and shouldn't, especially a Gid they can't s see so you look to find a way to make Him unworthy of following.
@@MyRoBeRtBaKeR And why shouldn't a child tell their parents how they should parent, if they think they're doing a bad job? What if the parent is abusive?
@@joshuakohlmann9731 lol, How does "a child" know what is right or wrong unless the parent teach them?
Children believe they can stay up all night, eat all the sugar they want and should be allowed to run with knives.
Your logic just doesn't work!
This man should be a magician because he pulls assertions out of thin air.
That's an assertion
At 2:03:05 you stated that the third day had to be longer because of the growth of vegetation. I want to say that doesn’t hold up and here’s why. It also takes longer for animals to grow s as well as humans. Yahweh also created Adam and Eve as fully grown adults. With that being said, when Yah created everything, everything was at its mature growth with the information in dna to then grown and reproduce at His desired rate. Also the word day that was used in Hebrew was Yom, which represented a 24 hour day. Lastly, we only know the round trip speed of light, not the direct speed. With creation being itself a miracle, it is easily understood by the text that when Yahweh created everything, He did so to its completion.
And you believe this "story" to be true? It's obvious fiction
Vegetation doesn't grow without a star/sun, creation fails before it even started
"For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty." II Peter 1:16
And just because some dude said it, it must be true.
@@Mavors1099 And just because some dude on the internet doesn't like it doesn't make it less true.
@@festushaggen2563
What? I didn't say I don't like it, I didn't affirm it's not true. I just say something is not true just because someone says so.
@@Mavors1099 Something also isn't less true because someone says so.
@@festushaggen2563
I didn't say so.
Frank when you coming to Chicago?
I wish he'd come to England. He'd get laughed out of the country!
Christ is the only perfect man that walked this earth and He is the judge and jury. We all are accountable to Jesus alone on judgement day. We worship no man, all praises go to GOD alone.
Hebrews 12:2 👑
@@reality1958
That's unfortunate Barb 🙏
2 Corinthians 4:3-4
2 Timothy 2:25 💝
How did you come to conclude that this Jesus ever existed?
You can avoid truth, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding truth.
Hi @Cross Examined / Frank Turek !
Ive a question.
Its about Cain, Abel and meat.
From Genesis (KJV):
4:2 "And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground."
9:3 "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; "
-> It seems that _meat eating_ was only allowed after the flood when God made a covenant with Noah.
-> Question *A* For what purpose did Abel keep sheeps?
4:4 "And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect."
-> Question *B* It seems that God respected _sin_ , why?
Ps. Im not a native english speaker, but also my local translation doesnt seem to change a dot about this.
Bless your good work !
2:49:15. Hot vs cold. He wasn’t saying you shouldn’t be cold. The meaning was either be cold, which is refreshing to the body or be hot which is healing to the body but Luke warm is neither…Luke warm is a reference to one foot in the kingdom and one in the world so to speak. Look up Voddie Bauchams’ sermon on revelation chapter 3. He explains it way better.
Why does everything with religion need personal interpretation?
Example: " In the beginning god created..." care to interpret this impossible claim? Verifiable evidence is acceptable, personal opinions are not
@@professorneturman2249 there’s a difference between personal interpretations and proper exegesis of scripture… But you clearly wouldn’t know anything about that and another thing… Like I stated before, you have no verifiable evidence of there being any change of kinds so please add the same amount of scrutiny that you do to Christians to yourself and watch how quickly your worldview breaks down
@@professorneturman2249 And another thing…! There is a difference between religion and theology. Do you understand the difference? Religion is a man response/in many cases man made ordeal; But theology on the other hand teaches you about the attributes of the most high and His purpose for us
@@Apostle734 You keep saying Worldview and have yet to define what you mean...like most everything else you spew
@@professorneturman2249 you really need me to explain what worldview means? It’s how you perceive the world…your philosophy about life and about how the world works and its conception. Like I explained to you before, according to your philosophy, ideology, and presuppositions about creation and evolution…makes morality Arbitrary, which leaves your worldview bankrupt.
There is plenty of information out there to come to the conclusion that God exist. Science is very limited to what in can answer. It cannot answer how we got here or why we are here.
The fact that we don’t know doesn’t mean god exists. To conclude scientifically that there are divine forces, there must be evidence pointing to the existence of such forces. There is none.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 no evidence? According to who? What kind of evidence are we looking for?
@@jeffphelps1355
Show me evidence of god. The Christian god specifically.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 what kind of evidence are you looking for
@@jeffphelps1355
Hints of intelligent design. Signs that a global flood happened. Proof that 2 humans populated the earth. Do you know how much inbreeding that would be?
Thank you for the work that you do Dr Frank. God bless you and your family 🙏
Do you mean his work in exploiting the simple minded Christians for money?
Atheism requires more faith than Theism.
Do you mean actual atheism or your strawman version?
SERIOUSLY? Why would we need faith as an atheist?
Most Atheists don't seem to understand Atheism.
It requires more faith to believe life created itself, rather than life was created.
@@alphabeta1337 Ahhh i see.....so its the strawman of atheism you're going for! THANKS FOR PLAYING!!! YOU LOSE!
Atheism is defined as a disbelief/rejection in claims of a god in 7 out of 8 google dictionary definitions of the word atheism!
How much FAITH is required to disbelieve or reject childish claims of pixies goblins fairies thor Allah Odin your god the flying spaghetti monster or tapdancinng elephants on the moon due to a total lack of credible evidence?
Atheism is the denial of God. There is no evidence for Atheism.
All Atheists do is explain away God and creation with unproven theories.
Pretty much every important scientist accepted God as fact.
@@alphabeta1337 @Alpha Beta Ahhh the strawman again!!! Im not denying any god! Show me a god that im denying!!! Where is he? Wheres this god that im denying?
I love your appeal to authority fallacy! Tell me are people like alan guth and sean Carroll theists? And of all the culturally indoctrinated scientists from the past why couldn't a single one of them produce a single scrap of credible evidence of your god?
And most importantly why did you run from the most pertinant question i asked?
How much FAITH is required to disbelieve or reject childish claims of pixies goblins fairies thor Allah Odin your god the flying spaghetti monster or tapdancinng elephants on the moon due to a total lack of credible evidence?
I Thought the question what would you say when you get to Glory? is the easiest to answer. I know what I will be saying, and I think I know what everyone else will be saying? "Holy Holy Holy Lord God Almighty Who Was and Is and Is to come!" as well as "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." For what it's worth?
Thats not what id say.
Id say.....bone cancer in children. Whats that all about?
@@nickjones6651 Actually you would need to talk to Adam an Eve about that one.
@@bedtimesd.1247 Nope i really wouldnt! Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that adam and eve EXISTED or they can be discarded!
Didnt god create everything including bone cancer in children? Isnt your god omnipotent? Couldn't he stop this with one wave of his finger?
So its your god who's responsible isnt it? Not 2 different fictious charectors.
Why is your god the most evil monster in all mythology?
@@nickjones6651 So I assume what you said about what your would say is disingenuous since you sound like you do not believe in God anyway. I do know exactly what you would say standing before God. " "
@@bedtimesd.1247 Why did you run away? Is your case so transparently weak?
If you enjoyed 'I don't have enough faith to be an atheist', you might also enjoy these other titles from the same author:
'I don't have enough hair to be bald'
I don't smoke enough to be a non-smoker'
'I don't have enough food to starve'
'I'm not gullible enough to have faith'
and 'I'm too smart not to see the new clothes'
Don't think about it, just keep buying the merch.
Or, the corollary...how can I miss you if you won't go away.
Dr. Turek says that he thinks some of these denominations are good because people like to worship differently. "For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1Co 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?" and "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
1Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
1Co 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" also "For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
1Co 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you." You see here that the only good division is one that comes in accordance with the bible and against heresy. If you then have a division that is according to mere carnality, that is not good for either and is not the sort of division God wants. If the division is to protect the purity of the church, that is good for those who are not going astray, but bad for those they are being forced to separate from. You don't get a good division that is an improvement on that unity for both groups. God wishes for unity in His people, but not at the expense of right doctrine or failing to purge the church of evil men who refuse to repent. It disturbed me that Dr. Turek said this.
You don't need faith, just education.
So you have faith in education.
@@teddyrascal6305
No, because with education, you’re encouraged to ask questions. There is convincing evidence for everything the educator claims.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 exactly, intelligent design / creationists lack an education, critical thinking is foreign to them
Monke With Internet Access aapeal to authority, yawn
ThadoS ad hominem, another yawn
Man...I hope you are not another Ravi, DR Turek. May our Lord keep you strong, because you do have the talent
What talent does frank have? Is it the talent for exploiting the simple minded Christians for money without being able to present a single scrap of credible evidence of your god?
Doesn't Ravi make essentially the _same_ arguments for the existence of a god?
@@theoskeptomai2535
Christians tend to repeat themselves infinitely, reword it a bit, and call it a convincing argument. Nothing new.
@@nickjones6651 all you athiest do is complain instead of refuting the arguments. Stubborn fools will reject every evidence for God because they hate God and dont want there to be a God.
You will be in for the shock of your lives on the day of judgment
@@bss7254 Errr NOPE! All us atheists do is ask you for CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of your omnipotent omnipresent omnibenevolent god who wants a relationship with me which should be trivially simple to provide.
Why cant you do it?
And what does it say about your claim when you can't?
Am a Christian but to explain things from the view of an atheist psychologically I think their lack of belief in God stems from A. The evolution of the world from science without the help of a supernatural encounter (at least that's what they think)...or B. The sense of free will they get knowing that they could live life as they wish without the judgement of a higher being....I think for the most part it has more to do with B than A because a lot of religious countries are also advanced with medicine and science but they still believe in God. B is the main reason for their lack of belief ...and I get it. Take for instance a kid who's parents just won't let him do anything fun.. it really bums the kid out and sometimes he d wish he wants or has no parents either way u wanna put it. in actual sense he needs them..just like God we don't want God... because of his judgement...but we need him. I don't know if that makes sense and why do need him? Because we need a standard for morality..and don't tell me why humans can't be a standard for morality... that's because we are humans with opinions you tell me yours I tell you mine. Humans cant be a standard for morality. In summary of this God does exist.... even the atheist has it just at the back of his mind deep within his mind he knows that According to his beliefs 95% of the time there might be not a proof of God's existence ...but then they know that maybe just maybe there a could be that 5% chance that God does...but then again that's the Whole point of God's glory to make that 5% counts in regards to the 95%....I mean he shows up when we least expect he doesn't need to prove his existence anymore than a boy needs to prove his a boy or a girl needs to prove she s a girl...his essence alone speaks of him.
Im afraid you're mistaken Michael. The reason we're atheists is because when asked you cant provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god and whem asked all we get is the sort of PITIFUL, transparent appologetics that frank has displayed on this video.
Isnt that phenomenally reasonable?
Secondly you say we need god for MORALITY! Quite the contrary sir.
Why on earth would us DECENT people take lessons in MORALITY from the the most evil monster in all mythology?
Arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
WHY would us DECENT people take lessons in MORALITY from a being such as THAT?
@@nickjones6651 Decent HA! Did u just call humanity Decent! Humanity is far from Decent.. Decent wouldn't need to have sex with little boys Decent wouldn't be to porn actresses and actors. Decent wouldn't need to have sex with animals beastiality which is practice today ..and many many other things all of this that you mentioned jealous control freak homophobic..that's what we humans practice today and have been practicing for Ages.....that's doesn't disprove the existence humans. who lived and died before us....I didn't mention humanity in general cuz then u say we have proof of human because am human your human and what not. I had to mention those who are long gone before us ages ago. cuz then you d have no proof to claim they actually existed other than documents...Guess what we also have written documents on God. but you still don't believe. So in regard to jealous and control freak...I mean I guess you could be right but why didn't Jesus practice those if he was God. Listen dude I could go on and on with you on this and I d still give you a thousand reasons for the existence of God
How about C. Some are atheist because they don't believe in superstitious supernatural nonsense.
@@nickjones6651 look at you ignoring everything around is the concrete evidence that God exist what kind of stupidity are you believing nothing created all things 😂😂
If using faith is a bad thing then why use it at all?
I have never encountered any evidence that suggests the existence of a god.
Life is pretty strong evidence of a creator.
I believe you are being a bit stubborn. If you don’t believe these are good evidence then please refute them.
@KrazyTecho Present any _evidentiary fact_ that goes toward demonstrating the existence of a god and I will gladly discuss it with you.
You can present _any_ evidentiary fact in a paragraph or two. So you have no excuse to not introduce one of these evidentiary facts.
But you will not even attempt to do so. WATCH!!
@@theoskeptomai2535 what do you mean by evidence?
What do you approve as evidence i depends on the person. Because you already seem hard headed as it is.
Instead of refuting the evidence here you ask for more. Very reasonable of you😄 you should really learn to take the burden of responsibility
@KrazyTecho By 'evidence' I mean ANY presentation that substantiates the truth of your claim.
Hey Frank. I'm a JW. I like and agree with many of your thoughts, but your "Abbott and Costello" triangle to explain the Trinity
is ridiculous and not supported by the Bible. I understand the scriptures you use to support the Trinity but that triangle doesn't support those scriptures.
Being an atheist is freeing. Free from the ludicrous and arbitrary confines of the bible.
It is so freeing that you waste your time commenting here. How great it is to be free i.e ..only an exotic worm food factory ( they like their humans aged at 70+ years if possible so please look both ways before crossing the street )
You aren't free from sin, and if you die in your sin, you will end up in hell. After watching this video, it should have been clear that God not only exists, but He is the God of the bible, Jesus. I pray that you repent and follow Jesus!
@@bryant475 unsubstantiated claims. And congratulations for proving exactly what freedom from religious threats is all about.
@@Godlimate If Turek hasn't convinced you, you can try watching Dr. Hugh Ross, and Dr. William Lane Craig. However, because the evidence is so overwhelming, you're likely in the group that knows God exists, but just doesn't want to believe in Him. You don't want to accept it, and would rather continue in sin for this short blip of existence, compared to eternity. It's not worth it, not even close. I pray that you repent and be born again as well.
@@bryant475 If the evidence is overwhelming, why have I never been presented even one _evidentiary fact_ that can substantiate such a claim?
Q&A is definitely the best, so many interesting thoughts and perspectives, and Frank is always patient and sharp as a tack, not to mention indefatigable! I wonder if the main presentation could be distilled even further, kind of like cliff notes. For me I've seen it a lot, but for new audiences. Superb job as always.
You mean sharp enough to divert when hes caught out?
Why cant frank or you provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
@@nickjones6651 now why would a bitter atheist be on this channel other than to antagonize. Nick, come on back from the dark side it's ok. And don't worry, your pseudo-intellectual friends won't even give a crap that you left them, trust me.
@@nickjones6651 it's not up to me to prove your assertion, you prove your own claim, that God doesn't exist.
So you're that one perfect individual who is incapable of lies and has no flaws, people are looking for you.
@@buckybarnes3803 I hate it when my posts disappear!
@@buckybarnes3803 Why are xhristians so dishonest and morally bankrupt?
And i ask the question you dodged AGAIN!
Why cant frank or you provide EVEN the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?
Atheism isn't a faith based position
Logic and reasoning is tureks worst nightmare
Whether GOD exists or not is an issue that you will wrestle with for the rest of your life. If GOD does not exist then no problem. But IF GOD exists then atheists and the like have HUGE problem.
If you have never encountered any evidence that suggests GOD's existence please do not blame Christians for not convincing you. We all have a preference on what, why, and how to believe. Nobody is forcing you or anyone to believe that the Christian GOD exists.
All you can do is ASK and that's it. Whether the answer is enough does not matter so long that GOD does not exist.
Believing in GOD benefits me more than rejecting it. You, my friend, on the other hand, should stop waiting for evidence because nothing will come to you.
@@ziarchiveofficial depends on which god, you'll be in the same boat as me...
@@ziarchiveofficial not a very logical comment :-/
@@ziarchiveofficial there's no reason to believe in a god, it's not an issue to me... Maybe if a theist could meet their burden of proof I might actually be interested, but no Theist in history has accomplished that goal..
@@badideass you don't have to believe if you don't to and nothing can change your mind. No proof can ever convince you as well.
As Jesus Christ said that there are people who will still not believe even if someone rose from the dead.
You don't have to be interested to be convinced. Just live your life the way you wanted. Christians' job is not to convince people to believe in the first place. Christians are called to SHARE the gospel and live their life in service to GOD.
Frank and common sense are on common ground
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._*
And here is the evidence I must consider when evaluating the claim by theists and as to why I currently hold to such a position.
1. I personally have never observed a god.
2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god.
3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists.
5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises.
6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable.
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
So God has the be tangible for you to believe that there is a God?
@@jkinze why not though? If god created us, he/she/it should be tangible just like us. Something physical causes something else that is physical, and we are all connected this way because everything that is physical is more or less made up of the same components.
But no… we can’t consider this because it upsets my personal tradition/relationship with an imaginary thing. No we can’t have this, we must desperately seek the cheapest philosophical argument to maintain our position.. ahh here we are: epistemology 101: we can’t ultimately know certain truth, therefore god exists just as much as you exist. Total joke of an argument. This is what truth has lead us down to in desperation for the sake of our own insecurities.
@@jkinze No.
@@Godlimate God came to earth as a man, Jesus. There is tons of evidence and the Bible is not just one. Mind you the bible is comprised of several individual historical documents, even their style writings are different.
Sounds more like you're an agnostic.
Believers aren't evil because we're in Christ.
Philippians 3:9 💝
"and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith"
@@reality1958 They don't have Christ they're (sin nature) is considered evil.
John 3:18
@@NewCreationInChrist896 So you consider me, an atheist, as evil?
@@NewCreationInChrist896 They are considered evil by the very document that contains the thing they don't believe in?
Don't you think that's a tiny little bit circular?
What if you believe but still chose to live a sinful life without trying?
Ive just watched this in full for the 6th time.
Why cant frank or tbe rest of you xhristians present a single scrap of credible evidence of your God?
that's why you watched this for the 6th time.
One is all it takes to know he has no clue what he's talking about.
Apologetics don't provide evidence for their claims, they only demand you support yours, they are very dishonest people
That's because no evidence supports any of the gods claimed by man.
@@gettoknowthetruth YEP! Can you answer the question i asked?
Are you Mike Dillahunty? "I'm not convinced, so what you say must not be a sound reasoning".
Plenty of sound reasoning to support God's existence. Whether this video or William Lane Craig's stuff or someone else's. Unless you are saying that these Christians do not have sound reasoning?
Love it!
Here’s an atheist perspective. You say god exists, and I ask for convincing scientific evidence. You provide none whatsoever, so I don’t believe you. It’s that simple. No, I don’t believe that god doesn’t exist, I reject your unproven claim that he does. Atheism is a belief in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby,
You are asking for the wrong kind of evidence, you are really asking for philosophical evidence. Imagine me asking you for scientific evidence for science, you would never be able to produce it. So ask for the right first then we can move forward.
@@souzajustin19d
Here’s some advice. Before you try to convince someone that god exists, pretend you’re trying to convince someone that Santa exists, and see if your argument still holds up.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 It obviously does hold up, there is entire section in philosophy about the existence of God.
Your first problem is you assume God must be some type of myth. You wont get far thinking the existence of God is irrational. If you have the time and money go take a basic philosophy class at your community college, you will quickly realize this argument is not easy as you think it is.
Your assumption is flawed. Science is used to explain the world (universe) we live in. God exists outside of the universe, therefore, science cannot provide evidence of God. Science also doesn't explain many other things such as logic which is first required to do science. Your entire approach to the existence of God is backwards just as if you used science to explain logic.
@@raygrasso1612
So there’s no evidence for god? How am I unreasonable for not believing?
Do you have faith that the sun will come up tomorrow, or do you have blind faith that it won't? And if you have blind faith what do base it on.
I accept that the earth orbits the sun, and there is no reason to believe it will suddenly stop. No faith necessary, just logic and reason.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 Yes! because you can personally witness them. In other words there is evidence that support your belief. The point is that they are within reason, and logical . Blind faith isn't reasonable, or logical. It is a claim of truth, without being logical, or reasonable. That's why there aren't any theories for a god., because there's nothing to base it on.
The word faith in this video implies that there is only one meaning for the word faith. Actually there are more then one. It requires zero faith not to believe. It only requires faith when you speaking of future events becoming true. I have faith that the sun will come tomorrow is faith based on past experience. If I claim the sun will not come up tomorrow. I have no past experience to base my claim on, and it is blind faith. Now which faith is the video using. As an atheist I have no past experience, or am I aware of a god. So no faith is required. Only if I had the least amount of evidence could I believe there is a god. And this is with the recognition that I hold beliefs for the soul purpose of limited information. It doesn't mean that I belief my beliefs are fact. .
@@comeasyouare4545
It’s a pleasure to see a voice of reason in a world of manipulation and lies.
Program starts approx. 3:45
Is this going to private too
2:04:40 "you have to know what God means".... No you don't. You just have to assert, conjecture, or just read out loud what the Bible says about God. Because let's make sure we don't forget that nobody can really say *anything* about God in a way that can be proved, or falsified.
Yes, I've read the testimony of a famous martyr for freedom in India, called Sardaar Bhagat Singh who was an atheist.
When his verdict was passed to be 'hanged by the neck till death', he wrote how other prisoners quickly started praying, crying, etc. But he had no such hope. Death would be the end, and facing the death sentence required so much more courage.
Cults can do some serious mental gymnastics
What does evening and morning mean then?
Frank come to Singapore!
When you tell a child not to do something that he has set in his mind to do, you harden his heart to oppose your will because it contradicts what he feels he should be able to do.
So when God commanded the Pharoah to let His people go this command then hardened the Pharoah's heart!
Religious indoctrination is child abuse. Let them learn to think for themselves and not follow some contradictory and mythical beliefs.
@@desmodus5635 Let them choose to do drugs, defy authority figures, what gender they want to be, dictate what the parents allow them to do?
Is that the non child abuse way? To teach them in the way they should go is child abuse huh?
The sad thing is you really believe what spews out of your mouth!
Are you a devil worshipper?
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I believe you should encourage children to ask difficult questions, doubt what they’re told, and think critically about everything. I have not met a single religious parent who does that.
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 You don't have to encourage difficult questions, life will cause the difficult questions.
Such as "where do baby's come from, Tommy asked", "why did mommy die daddy?
You never encourage doubt as a parent either and definitely not what they teach. "Son, don't believe everything I've told or teach you", said no parent ever!
@@MyRoBeRtBaKeR
You need to work on your reading. I believe you should encourage them to never believe anything just because they’re told to believe it. Explain why and how your teachings are true. Teach them to accept the explanation that makes sense, and follow the evidence wherever it leads.
Amen we're in a blood bought covenant with Jesus Christ, believers can not lose God, GLORY!
Matthew 26:28 💝
"For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
"Ephesians 1:13-14 🕊
"In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory."
hey Frank. When the kid asked if God would be unjust to not save someone, your answer made sense. But people need to realize that God is not obligated to save anyone. Justice would be sending us all to hell. So if God chose not to save anyone , He would still be good
We deserve an eternity of everlasting hellfire for the crime of being created? You aim to teach children that they are born broken, and need to beg forgiveness to their creator for creating them that way? For lack of a better word, that is f*cked.
Errrr nope! Your answer means he's not omnibenevolent as the Christian god is claimed to be.
Quod ERAT DEMONSTRANDOM the god of the bible you Christians claim doesn't EXIST.
@@nickjones6651 that was for people who know they are sinners. A good God hates evil. If we are evil, He does good to punish us. Some people just don't like that
But He provided the way out through His Son, Jesus Christ. Trust in Him
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 a Good God hates sin and evil. Sin and evil must be pretty bad if the penalty is so large. It just shows me how good God is. And merciful. Don't miss the opportunity to be saved
@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 God made man upright, but they sought out many devices
This is the only point i disagree with Dr Turek - His interpretation of first chapter of Genesis. He also is in disagreement with Ken Ham.
Turek is an excellent apologist. Highly recommend. 👍🙏
Yeah he's good at talking about fiction 🙄
This book. co-authored with the late Dr. Norman Geisler, is a strong defense of biblical Christianity. Historical and theological facts. Read it. You will get insight into some eternal truths.
Not really. Tureks a seorce of fun and derision to us. Its hillarious to see someone continually spread the same laughable PATHETIC ridiculous, PITIFUL arguments that he cant support and exploiting the simple minded xhristians for money tp the tune of $1.6 million!
@@randypacchioli2933 Christians can't even agree with other Christians, that's why there's so many demographics... No credibility
Not on the orthodox teachings. If disagreement on certain issues dismisses the concept of truth, then even atheists are in a huge dilemma. Carrier believes Jesus Christ did not exist. Bart Ehrman does. One is right.
One more thing, naming the animals wasn’t that hard back then because there wasn’t as many as there are today.. neither here or there but even the seventh day…again Yahweh had Moses use the word yom, which again, 24hr day. When Yah had the Israelites rest on the seventh day, He didn’t mean for it to go on forever…Yah was very deliberate and specific. I love you Frank, but I beg you to do your research on this. Because if we poorly exegete the book of Genesis in this way, why not the rest? Also, Yah is infinitely just, loving, merciful, etc , which means hell is infinite because God’s justice is infinite. I believe it was C.S. Lewis that said Hell is as bad as God is good.. since we know God is infinitely good.. hell is infinitely bad…scary
How many animals were there?
We need Frank Turek to come to UH
I wish he'd come to England. He'd get laughed out of the country!
England must be even more debaucherous than the States and that says a lot. 😢
KJV:
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Complete Jewish Bible:
For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."
הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה
עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר
אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם:
Now we see that Isaiah 9:6 is about a baby born to be the future king of Judah. There is no suggestion that he was “the mighty God”, because it is “the mighty God” who supposedly calls him the prince of peace. This theme is carried forward into Isaiah 9:7, which says he will sit on the throne of David to establish his kingdom and support it with justice and righteousness
I was just listening to that on my cd player a split second before I read your comment! Handel's Messiah - powerful stuff. Rightly considered his masterpiece.
Septuagint is older than the masoretic text. Also its pretty obvious that the Pharisees when compiling the the M-text added/subtracted to/from it to try and remove the divinity of Jesus.
@@KevC1111 Greek translation is better than traditional Jewish one? How is it to lie for Jesus?
It’s hard to know with certainty but will people in hell suffer alone or suffer with everyone else and be able to talk with everyone else
I doubt that it matters too much. In hell, there is relief in the fact that it can’t get any worse. Here on earth, it can and will get worse.
this question reminds me of a quote: "Dying man couldn’t make up his mind which place to go to-both have their advantages, “heaven for climate, hell for company!” - Mark Twain.
Where is the evidence for hell?
The only thing id actually disagree with frank on is....the greatest miracle....id say the of free will is the greatest miracle and by extension humanity and its supported based on the evidence of how much god values us
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Didn't happen for me. No answer no matter how humbly I asked.
@@theoskeptomai2535 I don't know your circumstances but God is not a man that he should lie and he said if we seek we will find him and will answer anyone that calls on him.if you are truly sincere he will answer....it will be in his timeframe and his personal way.sometimes he just appears to people but most of the time he responds in a way that is personal to you....he absolutely positively will answer...it may not be the answer you wanted but he will.
@@warrenrodgers7544 Is it possible that this god is not a reality?
I tried that. Almost non-stop for 2 years. He never answered back.
@@warrenrodgers7544 Errr well he didnt answer monkey, Theo, millions of others nor did he answer ME either in 22 years as a Christian or in 30 years as an atheist.
Is it possible that youve been lied to by your church? Why cant an omnipotent omnipresent omnibenevolent god who wants a relationship with me just say HELLO?
The only reason i can think of is he cant say hello cos he isnt there.
Do you have a better reason?
The speed of light has been manipulated by passing it through temperatures so the speed of light is not a constant it has been changed in labs!
With that in mind the speed of light traveling through the universe can very well be manipulated. The. There the folding of time like black holes etc that can accelerate the speed of light!
It should come as no surprise that religious beliefs just experienced it's largest decline in a generation in America. Religious mythology has run it's course in America and most developed countries. Good riddance
Better education = less religious beliefs
One that made me think of God I'd Doctor Who. Have you seen it?
Sheol - Hebrew = Hades - Greek (Paradise = Abraham's boosom - where righteous are held; tartarus - unrighteous held)
Justin Gary lol 😂 funny someone makes a Real argument and no one replies all the trolls run for the hills love it
Thats what Christians do. They run for the hills when asked to support their ASSININE claims!
I always love watching Frank's special kind of screamangelism, where he just yells and brow-beats until the person is converted or just runs away.
Seriously though, I appreciate the work, but I always get a bit of a red flag when a person tries to tell us about God's mind and his intentions. Near the end a kid asks why God didn't kill Satan. The simple truth is we don't know. Its ok if we try to use scripture to understand why, but any opinion should be prefaced by "I don't know". Even Jesus was not privy to some information. ...for example, about end-times.
"I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist"
He seems to approach this as if faith is a bad thing. I thought it was good to have faith.
The theist is out to prove the atheist is out to disprove I'm neither out to prove nor disprove whatever is is whatever isn't isn't Mythology is very powerful in the human psyche
Atheist here 🙂 Can someone tell me how a Christian can justify heresy?
How can an Atheist justify anything? If Atheism were true, nothing was even supposed to exist.
What exactly are you referring to when you say hersey?
Isn't heresy just anyone who disagrees with you? It's a totally man-made and subjective construct and I'm not aware the word is ever mentioned in the Bible.
@@alphabeta1337 Atheism is simply saying "that God u believe in, .. i don't believe he exists" .. it doesn't say anything on the origins of life.. that's another deep question. I have no idea how everything came into being. It's beyond my comprehension.
@@Peter-wl3tm people who are opposed to Christian thinking, and are punished for daring to question the Bible in the past.. they were tortured and killed.
The young man speaks of a "progressive society" as if that is a good thing in and of itself, absent consideration of what the society is progressing towards. If the society is progressing towards God's will being done, then that would be a good progression. I don't think that is likely to happen before the Second Coming of Jesus. I think people who worry about having a "progressive society" seem to demonstrate wrong priorities. I am not saying individuals shouldn't seek the good of others--seek justice, mercy, and righteousness--but that the main purpose is to preach the gospel so that people will come to Jesus Christ for salvation.
Isnt it progressive that we've been getting rid of christian morality and so becoming more caring, decent and civilised?
SERIOUSLY! It seems we're far more civilised since we got rid of christian morality arnt we?
@@nickjones6651 Trying to figure out if you're serious or just trying to tell a joke.
@@ronarprefect7709 ERRR WHAT?
It was a perfectly serious question based on the reality of society. Please answer it.
@@nickjones6651 Since when did we get rid of Christian morality? It is codified into our laws to a large extent, and for good. "Thou shalt not kill", "Though shalt not steal", "Thou shalt not bear false witness"(perjury), are an integral part of civilized society. Modern education and science is largely owed to the belief in God. Public education came from people wanting everyone to be able to read the bible. Science largely came from men who wanted to understand the universe God made--and thereby God--better. The very notion of mercy towards others rather than brutality is based in Christianity and started before Christ came in the flesh.
"Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
I didn't even look who said that, but I have faith he was an atheist.
Sounds nothing like an atheist
Dishonest, only some of Paul's letters are attributed to him 7 exactly. Frank knows this and acts like he doesn't. This man should stop.
Ravi abused women. It’s a bit different. Also his victims are still out there.
Do you REALLY believe those tears from George Bush were REAL?? COME ON MAN!!
Frank tries so hard to convinced people about the existence of a god but religion continues to decline in America as more people realizes that religion is no longer needed as science continues to give us the answers about the physical world
Do you think there is only a physical world? If so then what caused it?
Also, science says nothing about morals. What is good and bad, and why? Did you know that ‘philosophy of science’ sits above science? For example science relies on the assumption that laws and findings will always behave the same way in the future as they did in the past. There is no guarantee for that; it’s just faith.
Lots of things are outside of science.
@@danwilson5630The physical world is all we know, what cause it I don’t know science will eventually give us the answer. Frank’ biggest mistake is to try to correlate science with his religion which are non compatible. He needs to accept that his faith has no scientific back up.
@@fredcohen568Science is the understanding of the material world. The beginning of this existence is, by definition, outside of the scope of science.
The scientific method is a great tool, but there are much wider questions which it cannot answer. Also we are beginning to uncover a huge amount of fraudulent findings in the scientific community.
Knock, and it will be opened to you.
The following isn't an argument, but it is intersting.
As religion has decrease in society, certain things have increased.
For example, teen pregnancy, suicide, political corruption, drug use, high school dropouts, economic disparity, etc.
Furthermore we didn't use to have gender confused kids and now we do.
Correlation is not causation, but it is interesting.
In Genesis 1, "day" is exactly 24 hours. Consult the Jewish scholars on this. And yes, in other parts of the Bible, "day" may mean something else. And as for "hell", unsaved people do not suffer eternally since that would mean that they live forever as well. But only those who accept Jesus will have eternal life. Hell does not now exist (all the dead are asleep except a very few, e.g. Moses and those resurrected when Jesus died). There will be a hell when Jesus returns the THIRD time to Earth. The unrighteous dead will be resurrected and immediately destroyed by fire (including Satan and the fallen angels). Hell is a brief moment (maybe a few days at most?) when all unrighteousness will be burned up, totally annihilated. God is love and just, so He cannot punish people eternally for sins they committed in this brief lifetime.
Wow... What a lot of magical thoughts.
Why would us decent people believe you Christians when theres thousands of different versions of your own core claims? Why can't you guys get your own stories straight?
@@Mavors1099 Do you have enough courage to step out of the box of empiricism and into the higher level box of special revelation? Try it; you might be surprised. Many former vehement and vitriolic (militant) atheists have studied the Bible just to refute it but ended up accepting Christianity, e.g. C. S. Lewis.
@@nickjones6651 "us decent people" vs. Christians? LOL. BTW, except for a few fringe loonies (e.g. Jim Jones who claimed to be Jesus himself), Christians do have their core claims straight; we differ on the details.
@@ArroEL922
You're inviting me to quit my rationality.. no, thanks.
Why do you believe in the "special revelation" of the Bible, but you reject the "special revelation" of Quran?
How was Lewis a militant atheist? What did he do to actively promote atheism.
Anyway, so what? Many former vehement Christians have left Christianity after studying the Bible: e.g. Bart Ehrman.
Nor enough common sense.
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How does this make sense to anyone, Frank is an expert on God's nature. If it's unfalsifiable then why believe this nonsense? Abbott and Costello is right this is a comedy act.
Half awake. The earth is geocentric according to the Bible. So you peach a good story but fail to follow through fully, on Creationism as per The Holy Word of God.
Nick jones got owned by this video.
Lol when did THAT happen kiddy?
How to fight atheism
What is there to fight. Atheism is simply the position of suspending any acknowledgment as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. Why is this position such a threat to you?
@@theoskeptomai25351 your a atheist? 2 not a threat to me
@@ambermichealshotkinkyjo15 So why are you mentioning "how to fight atheism"?
@@theoskeptomai2535 so you can't answer
@@theoskeptomai2535 are u
NO, No, no, and no. But you can believe all that rubbish if you like.
Anyone needing information on earth creation, dinosaurs, and the flood need to watch Kent Hovind’s creation seminar. It’s plain and simple at a 4th grade level and explains history and young earth creation that anyone can understand backed up with evidence.
Ahhh no it doesn’t. Kent ignores so much of science to suit his arguments. He has zero scientific evidence to support his wild claims.
Kent’s knowledge of science is lacking at best, nonexistent at worst.
Nothing Kent speaks of is important as he's one of the biggest clowns you'll come across on the internet
Hovind the bozo clown 🤡
Kent's higher education is in music and criminal history.
His income is 600k.and 501 (c) 3 money.
In a few months he'll be serving a 30 day jail sentence for domestic violence.
This guy is a caricature of all the most idiotic Christian debaters there all. 😂😂
So what's your argument?
It still takes absolutely no faith at all to not believe the clearly fictional stories about gods that humans have come up with.
If you cared about the truth at all, you would put your bible down and read some non-fiction instead.
But other books don't have gawd magic, how will they believe them?
Like Darwin's Origin of Species? LOL !
@@ArroEL922 Lol are you an evolution denier like a flat earther or young earth creationist?
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Do people laugh at you in the street kiddy?
@@nickjones6651 Of course, I totally reject Neo-Darwinian evolution, for scientific reasons. It just does not make sense. It is the evolutionist's fairy .... er.. monkey tale. Of course, if you want to believe in something that is demonstrably false, that's your prerogative.
@@ArroEL922 Lol you didnt answer. Do people laugh at you in the street?
Tell me, is it actual evolution thats wrong or your strawman version of atheism? Do you even know what evolution is SONNY? Can you define it? Do you agree with the dictionary definition of change over time or biologists definition of adaptation and speciation or to get more technical a change in allele frequency over successive generations?
Do you agree with these definitions that are proven FACT or do you have your own strawman version of evolution?
Tell me what you think evolution is?
An atheist is not faith based.
Frank still can't figure out what an atheist is.
Whether GOD exists or not is an issue that you will wrestle with for the rest of your life. If GOD does not exist then no problem. But IF GOD exists then atheists and the like have HUGE problem.
If you have never encountered any evidence that suggests GOD's existence please do not blame Christians for not convincing you. We all have a preference on what, why, and how to believe. Nobody is forcing you or anyone to believe that the Christian GOD exists.
All you can do is ASK and that's it. Whether the answer is enough does not matter so long that GOD does not exist.
Believing in GOD benefits me more than rejecting it. You, my friend, on the other hand, should stop waiting for evidence because nothing will come to you.
Well first of all atheists don't have faith in a God they just don't believe in your God and others feel satisfied 😅
OK, so what?
Can someone explain to me why KJV translation proves how Christianity is built on LIE?
KJV:
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Complete Jewish Bible:
For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."
הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה
עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר
אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם:
Now we see that Isaiah 9:6 is about a baby born to be the future king of Judah. There is no suggestion that he was “the mighty God”, because it is “the mighty God” who supposedly calls him the prince of peace. This theme is carried forward into Isaiah 9:7, which says he will sit on the throne of David to establish his kingdom and support it with justice and righteousness
Jesus claimed and proved countless times he was god. Christianity is built on the resurrection of christ. Every translation has differences. Thats why its better to study scripture from multiple sources. Bottom line, the message is still the same. Jesus is god.
@@johndixonkingdom it's not just a small differences in translation.
It shows how KJV manipulates and twists words to link Jesus to story in Isaiah
The Bible is clear that God elected a people to salvation. Every person's will is sold out to Satan. In of himself, the unsaved person would never choose God. God has to do all the work to save someone, but He only chose to do so for a remnant.
Why would us DECENT people believe a single word of your book?
And does the satan you claim actually exist?
@@nickjones6651 Being decent or not has absolutely nothing to do with it. Actually, nobody "decent" will believe the Bible---truly believe it. God has to open a person's eyes to truth.
@@terminat1 Damn RIGHT bible believers arnt decent. Nice of you to admit it!
You then speak of TRUTH. Is it the truth that your god made the universe, made humans and that xhristians are moral or is it a complete LIE used to socially control the simple minded xhristians for money
@@nickjones6651 You misunderstood me. Nobody is "decent" by nature. By nature, every person is in rebellion against God. The only ones who will finally implicitly trust the Bible are those whom God saves. They are righteous in God's eyes because they have the righteousness of Christ.
The Bible is the Word of God. So, yes, it's true that God created the universe and also humans in His image.
@@terminat1
@Meredith Fayer ARE YOU REALLY insulting my baby in that manner? Do you REALLY want to do that? Why are you insulting my 3 month old baby? What sort of person ARE YOU?
You claim your god made the universe. We have a better explanation with actual credible evidence that the universe formed by the release of energy at the big bang.
1. Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that your god did it?
2. You claim your god made man. Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that your god had anything whatsoever to do with it?
We have a better explanation with actual credible evidence that man evolved from lower primates.
3. You claim god made woman. Please present CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that your god made woman from Adams rib?
We have a better explanation with actual credible evidence that woman evolved from lower primates.
4. You claim xhristians are moral. Will you condemn an evil monster who IF YOUR OWN BOOK is correct callously and needlessly killed an estimated 10 million or more innocent babies that he had the power to remove from noahs flood and give new moral parents or are you immoral by any independent standard?
Thats 4 of the very main claims your book. Please answer them or it seems your book and religion is TOTALLY DISCREDITED!