I'd like to be able to ask the guy speaking about a humble and honest seeking agnostic, what IS your standard for evidence? Like what would qualify to you as enough or good enough I mean. I went through about a year and a halfish of studying apologetics, strenuously, seeking the truth daily after being indoctrinated by a couple years of the joe Rogan podcast and others. It wasn't until I was at the sink doin dishes one day that I said "God, idk if you're real or if the Christian Bible is true, but I'm just gonna do what it says." Iv never meant anything iv said so much before. I woke up the next day, and I felt different but didn't realize it entirely until I evaluated my behavior a couple days later. Changes occurred in my life that iv never been able to have control over, the way I treated people, the things I thought about, everything about me was just suddenly different. Now, did God tell me that he's real and that he made these changes in my life? No not at all, but it the best explanation.. I believe that it is. What qualifies as evidence to you? I think that's an important question to ask yourself, evaluated your standards and ask yourself if you're being reasonable.
Hey! I’m the guy that asked the question. I’ve been a Christian my entire life, and have been seriously studying the faith (including heading off to school to become an apologist for four years of that time) for more than a decade. Here’s the unfortunate fact I had to learn the hard way. While I remain a Christian for a number of complex reasons, the historical evidence does not reach the standards an average person (not predisposed to Christian belief) would apply to such a metaphysically significant claim. To help you feel the weight of what I just said, honestly listen to a Muslim or Jewish or Mormon apologist and truly ponder how little their historical arguments move you. After coming up with the standard of evidence each one would need to meet to persuade you, then apply that standard back to your acceptance of Christian historical arguments. This process will take you much longer than a year if you are to take it seriously. Until then, please respect those who have actually done the hard work It is very possible to be an agnostic or atheist worth celebrating… because intellectual honesty is worth celebrating.
@@justinbailey9690 I appreciate your reply man. I went through my own thing, I can't imagine what you are, especially considering the amount of time you're talkin. I'm so thankful God decided to rescue what I was going through in my mind. There's more than I really wanted to say publicly, things of demonic nature. I agree that intellectual honesty is absolutely worth celebrating, I hope you can have genuine peace of mind one of these days, you sound like you've been on an interesting journey. Get ahold of me on Facebook if you're ever interested in hearing about some of the things I haven't mentioned publicly, you'll be scratchin your head for sure lol. Either way, I commend you on your truth pursuit .
My explanation in a basic 3 parts is the Universe through Creation and the precision in science, prophecy in detail and the real proven sacred scriptures and my own personal experience of being a new person completely different from who i was, whom is a much better person with peace, joy and contentment. Uk street preacher:
@Justin Bailey Thanks for sharing some of your story Justin! Would you be able to give an example of a historical fact about Jesus or scripture that caused you to pause and ponder things? Thank you!
whether someone else chooses to punish himself, is not a gesture that has anything to do with me, nor does it entitle such a figure to demand that I owe him anything for it. nor his is reason for claiming to do or have done so, a motive for me to adore him especially.
I enjoy Franks' wisdom n communication skills , but on rare occasions there are no answers to some questions in this life n it is best sometimes to just say only God knows
I love listening to Frank & Chip. But you know what I think, when we finally arrive in heaven the many questions that concerned us on earth will not matter to us. we will think without fear there will be no darkness because our beloved Blessed Hope Jesus is The Light there is no darkness.. How good is God mmmmm the lover of our souls. 💞hallelujah 💓🇦🇺
If the question of how old the Earth and all Creation is, from a Biblical perspective, is what's causing conflict about your faith, you really need to try harder. How old everything is, is ultimately irrelevant. The basis of Christian faith isn't how old everything is, but in what Christ did for us and that accepting and welcoming God into our lives is our salvation.
Thank you! I'm Catholic. I appreciate your faith/works explanation. Once you have faith--IDK--the works just come along with it. You can never do enough works to, on your own, earn your way to heaven. But your works are important, right? Evidence of your faith. God bless you guys!
You are right on. Ephesians 2 verse 8,9 For by Grace saved through faith that’s not of yourselves a gift card not of works lest any man should boast. Verse 10 we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for us to do good works. How many Christians skip first which is so important to show us that we truly have faith by doing works
@@danpozzi3307 And you do your works quietly and humbly. What is the verse about the --I think Pharisees who wear sackcloth and all that. No---you do your service with a happy heart. LOL I teach 4th grade at a Catholic school and I make the kids do things like take out trash and help the little kids, hold doors for people---and I'm like a Nazi sometimes, "Do with a happy heart!!!" LOL But---I still want them to learn and feel the quiet rewards from services. True, you can't earn your way to heaven but you can sure be a representative of our Father while you are here on earth.
As a true believer in Christ, I follow his word and repent for my sins. It is for Christ to grant me salvation. For only Christ knows what is in our hearts.
@@JesusistheonetrueGod I believe in In God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Any one part of God is God, implicitly or explicitly. God bless.
Frank Turek you do good bywhat you havebeen doing all along. I salute you good sir. For atheists and non believers may not take in onwhats been said here all by stubbornness and disbelief. I think that we need more scientists whowalk in faith to discuss the journeys theyhave gone through because they who are in the field of science know more what it islike to be faithless and not with Christ.
I would love to hear an alternate plan for salvation. I always hear, why did God do it like he did, he could have just saved everyone. That is basically stripping away the free will aspect. The plan he set into motion from the beginning of time was absolutley brilliant.
Develop a personal fellowship with Christ daily and meditate on His word day and night. Plant God's word into your hearts and others, because the cares of the world/Satan will steal it if you let him/them. Obey God and grow in a deeper relationship with Him to exercise His will. Know who you are in Christ Jesus. Proverbs 4:23 "Keep your heart with all diligence, For out of it spring the issues of life. Put away from you a deceitful mouth," Psalms 1:2 "but whose delight is in the law of the LORD, and who meditates on his law day and night."
Thank you for your comment. Your words affected me deeply. God bless you! Today I will meditate on Christ and his word. May God fill us with his spirit, in Jesus name. Amen!
@@eastwood111 You welcome. Mark 4:19 “and the cares of this world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things entering in choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. “
Ok, Frank, love your work! So I'm 3.5 years into being saved. The first 2 was me reading the bible at home. The last 1.5 I've started to attend a Baptist church! When you said 'even some Baptist might be saved' what did you mean? I call myself a disciple of Jesus over a denomination. What am I missing. From New Zealand and I have your book and will read over Christmas!
Hi there, he was just making a joke... I think the point is, that you can not make general statements like `everyone who goes to a Baptist church is saved', because that is not the case.. so yeah.. Hope you get what I mean.. :)
@e.n.6079 Thanks for explaining, I understand now. It's the most serious thing I've ever done, and I have JWs around me along with Catholics, so I want to understand the depths of differences. Hey thanks again I appreciate you putting in the time to respond:)
@@RR-gi9vo Very welcome! Well, Jehovas witnesses do have a complete different theology where Jesus is not seen as God Himself. Catholicism is basically saying that "Jesus and grace *+* your own efforts and good works " and then the worshipping of Saints, Mary ... The pope..very unbiblical indeed! If you do have more questions feel free to ask. Take care!
Wait, how exactly was the thief on the cross wrong? Jesus clearly says that all authority has been given to Him _after_ He resurrects. The way I've heard it taught is that Jesus was somehow limited when He walked the earth, and only after rising again does He return fully to His glory, ie to the throne, to the kingdom. If that's not the case, then it raises questions about other passages, namely how does Jesus pray, how does He get tempted, and how does He die?
It might be a literal flame, I mean most near death experience "survivors", do say it is a Literal flame. May the LORD GOD bless all of you. And I hope that all of you will find GOD
What I can never understand about transgenderism is how they even define what a woman is. They think being a woman is having long hair, glue on nails, wearing mini skirts/ heals / and the color pink. In fact being a woman is none of those things! My favorite color is white not pink.. my hair is shorter not long.. I don’t even prefer to wear dresses and skirts but im fully biologically a woman. Being a woman means a lot of things for example having a period once a month and dealing with the hormonal changes that happen when that takes place, sacrificing my body for 9 months to carry a human life inside of me and then birthing that human life in the most painful way.. then sacrificing my breasts for two more years to nurse that child. Those are only a few examples.. putting on a wig/mascara/high heels/ and a skirt doesn’t make you a woman .. that’s sexist. Being a woman is much more and you either are or you are not. The end.
Well said! GOD said that he made man and woman. Are we allowed to yeah but? GOD made us in his image. Non-believers are trying to make HIM in their image. DUH...And I have the compassion to tell them so. You go girl! I mean Ma'am;)
I think it just calms the dysphoria a bit to pretend. And when they don’t really look that much like a woman they have to be extreme with their outward costume. If that makes sense.
For the issue of Ephesians 2:8-9 Vs. James 2:24, I look at it like Ephesians is saying how you are saved where James is saying that your salvation is evident or justified through works. You cannot do any work to earn salvation. If that were the case, then Jesus died for nothing. Through grace, which is freely given, you are humbling yourself accepting that only God's intervention can redeem you. Through accepting Christ, your heart condition changes and what occurs on the outside, like behavior, deeds, and expression of love, long suffering, and self-control etc., is the evidence that shows that you have accepted Christ and that you have faith in him.
This was / is an incredible episode. Answers many questions and feelings that have entered my mind. Sometimes it is very difficult to have the confidence of salvation without the arrogance of being right. Claiming knowing / following Christ but being told that Christ will(may) respond with the 'not knowing you' (paraphrased) is a concern.
@@bones2614 blah blah blah. I know that doesn't seem like an intelligent answer, but you don't seem to be listening when 'it's DONE', and it is adequate. Just because a majority of people think a certain way, that does NOT make them correct. The last two+ years have been a prime example of that. Go find a different enemy.
Are you with OAM? I really enjoy evangelizing in the UK. I wish I could continue to do so, but I actually live in Germany. :D Anyways, may God bless you!
If one is punished forever and Yeshua/Jesus was punished for our sins, why isn't Yeshua still being punished? I am a believer. Thank you so much for your time.
My only issue with the Genesis answer is that it seems to me like the structure does make it clear that Yom is intended to be a literal 24 hour day in this context. There is additional theology that would also seem to contradict a long ages framework, particularly that death would have to come before sin, which blatantly contradicts sound theology.
Regarding faith alone it's time to clarify: Romans 3:28 is a key verse in the differences between traditional Protestants and Catholics. You will notice that Paul says a man is justified by faith (pistei in Greek). When Martin Luther translated the letter to the Romans into German in the sixteenth century, he added the word alone -but alone is not in the original Greek text. The phrase “faith alone” does occur in the New Testament: one time, in James 2:24. There the inspired apostle denies that justification is from faith alone. Let me quote it: “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Even thief on cross did things, declaring his belief in Jesus, true repentance from sin and desire to follow Jesus, so its never has and never will be "faith alone", but rather collaborating with God's grace.
For that blood question check this out: Isa 53:12 - Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. So Jesus poured out his soul for our transgressions? Jhn 19:34 - But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. But it was his blood and water? Gen 4:10 - And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. Blood has a voice? I’m just speculating but is the soul and blood interchangeable?
The idea that time space and matter are co-dependant is flawed. Time and space can still exist with the absence of matter. So only matter had a starting point. When that was is not clear, but you cannot begin to calculate time and space without it. Because you require reference for calculation. Time itself is also a subjective concept, such as our own day calculated by our own surroundings.
Also, the thief on the cross , my understanding is Jesus saw his heart and knew that if he could have gotten down and lived he would have done whatever he had to do to be saved even if it meant baptism or anything. So his intent, not so much about through faith alone . If anyone would like to help me with this and point out where I could be wrong🙏❤️
My understanding is that the Catholic sacraments are not for salvation but for our temporal life. Good works are to achieve sainthood and avoid purgatory or lessen the time. Is my way of thinking correct or incorrect? I welcome feedback❤️🙏
Hi there, well the Bible does not speak about purgatory (this is a concept you have in Catholicism). The thing is that in the Catholic teaching it is "JESUS and grace + your own works" in order to work out Salvation, which is not biblical. The Bible says we are saved by grace alone through faith in the LORD JESUS CHRIST: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 The Holy Spirit dwelling inside a true believer (someone who has truly repented of their sins and put all their trust alone in the LORD JESUS CHRIST and is therefore born again) is helping us to live holy before the living God. Hope that did help a bit. Greetings:)
The verse "We are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses" , Its talking about the other believers on the earth that know like we know And they bare witness of the truth, just like Frank here for example. Hes apart of the cloud. Thats what i think.
54:16 I had a friend (now deceased) who had a hyper-predestination theology. For example, he once asked me if God knew I was going to be wearing the shirt I had on. "Well, God has total knowledge, so sure He did." Then my friend asked me if God could have stopped me from putting that shirt on. "Um. Yeah. He's all powerful..." Next question, did God stop me from putting that shirt on. "No. He did not." So my friend's conclusion: God knew I was going to put that shirt on. God could have stopped me but He didn't. Conclusion: God MADE me put that shirt on. Ya just can't get through to some people.
God also created the Universe in which you put that shirt on, and knowing you would do so as a result of his actions. Had he structured his reality differently then you might have worn another shirt or been buck naked, but that too would've been his choice as he knew what would follow. Hyper-predestination is a natural consequence of your conception of your deity's 'total knowledge.'
You still had free will in your choosing to put that shirt on. God isn't making you wear that shirt because He knew you would and allowed it to happen. That's like watching my son pull his arm back with a rock in his hand and say to me he is going to throw it through a window. I just stand and watch him break the window even though I knew he was going to. I didn't make him throw the rock at the window. He did it by his choice alone.
@@OttoTheGermanShepherd Except your god didn't see your son pulling back his arm the moment he did or said so, but before the first moment even existed. Before you existed. Before he existed. Your god created the reality in your which your son threw that rock. No matter which reality your god creates he'd know every outcome and choose which ones he wanted through the shaping of our reality. This is an an unavoidable consequence of the omnisciene Rog ascribes too. The analogy would work better if you knew your son would potentially throw that rock before you impregnated his mother. And then deliberately, with perfect foreknowledge and clarity, came the moment that potential would become an actuality in the future. You made your son throw that rock.
@@pierrelindgren5727 you waited up his entire life until he threw the rock and didn’t stop him. Why? He chose to throw it. You did not make the choice to throw the rock, you made the choice to allow the rock to be thrown
the thing about the 2 geneologies of Jesus, one being his mother and the other being Jospeh, one had to do with the royal line going back to david (joseph) and the other the jewish line (mary) both providing evidence that Jesus had legal and royal claim to the throne of israel
The thief on the cross had the doctrine exactly correct. Israel's salvation is a future salvation. Acts 3:21 KJV Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 1Pet 1:10 KJV Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
What's my fate of I have no desire to read the bible?and when I do I don't understand it,do I lose my salvation?or will it just be more difficult here on earth, is Jesus still with me?am I lost forever?
Let me encourage you to listen to preachers. You have to make sure they are teaching correctly, but ask God to bring the desire to you. We all have this problem. We get on you tube or we get distracted, He will bring it to you. God knows us, we are selfish and lazy (I know I am) but I ask Him to stoke the fires in my heart for Him and it comes. Do not get discourage Este, He is always listening.
The surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses passage probably confirms my long held conviction that the whole drama of creation was predicated on the conflict between God and the angels. The war that ended in heaven with the removal of the fallen angels and their being cast down to earth had raised the necessity for God to end a certain unresolved issue in the hearts of even the loyal angels. The question was whether God alone deserved worship. To answer that question God planned to raise weaker creations made from dust (in line with His eternal word that if "these" should no longer cry out Hosanna the stones would cry out in their place) and these would worship Him. The weaker creations made from dust or stones turns out to be us humans. Essentially then the angels have all along been scoping us with wonderment to see if we would make the mark. Reminds me of a line in the hymn "And can it be that I should gain..." where the hymnist wrote "T'is mercy all, let earth adore, let angels minds inquire no more." This so explains why Satan the head of the rebellion had to act swiftly to derail the whole project by tempting Adam and Eve. Needless to say, had he delayed and the whole program panned out without interruption, things would've turned out very much differently. So, yes, the great cloud of witnesses will have to be the angels who are scrutinizing our every move to see how weaker beings like us could come to fill up an holy office such as worship. Remember when Jesus said that the Father is seeking for those who will worship Him?! Meanwhile, that is no indication that an all-sufficient God is lacking in something and needs our worship as the fact this was made an issue by the rebels - and so God - to prove a point - is relying on weaker vessels like us. I hope this makes some sense.
thht question about women preachers. if i may add the following comment--- 3 women preaching Christ, one in the jungle mission field, one on a street corner passing out tracts and one standing in the pulpit in a Christian church. Two of those will be lauded and praised for their courage and answering the call of God. The other one will be accused of heresy, feminism, rebelliousness, disobedience to God’s word, told to repent. Nothing about the message changed. Only the location. And one tornado with good aim will turn that church into an open air location--then can that woman who was not allowed to preach inside a church now bring the message of christ on that same spot where the church once stood?
So when God says something is GOOD or for FOOD like in Genesis 1:29, then why do so many claim that marijuana is evil and sinful???? God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and GOD does not LIE.
Where about Jesus's expression that says: If you love me you will follow my commends! This doesn't mean that we have work to do for our salvation but fulfilling the law as manifestation of conversion...
A long time ago some one prophesized that my parents would be people that others go to for rest and peace and they were right. Is this coincidence? Im also skeptical of people that say they prophisize over people
What does the pastor mean when he says hell isn’t literal flames? It is literally fire. People who end up in hell will literally burn forever and ever.
21:07 yup! Purpose is a principle of God ❤ two men and two women in sexual immorality doesn’t lead to purpose to union with God - yes a men and women who can’t bear children have purpose, their union gives God glory. Children and sex are byproduct of man and woman coming together as one.
Time stamp 33:00 This doesn't match other scriptures about one's actions. If your right hand caused you to sin, then cut it off. Why? Because the action can disqualify your unearned free gift of salvation.
Frank said that god have plans we can not know and ripple effect is part of it. So that alone means we do not have free will since god control the outcome of something.
1:12 Imagine being so petty and so small-minded that you initiate a church split because you think some stained glass windows and a painting of Jesus are “graven images.” Nobody is worshipping the stained glass or the paint on the wall, guys. Chill out.
According to the Bible Psalm 37:20 the wicked shall be consumed like the fat of the Lamb. One text there is 100 more where that came from.perish.death. Destroyed. Burnt up. Ashes under your feet. Remember JESUS said my sheep hear my voice and the follow me and I give them eternal life. If we are eternal being how can HE say that.
For people that don't have the metal capacity to understand Jesus or babies that pass away, in a way, is their free will taken away? Or does God know that those are the people that would have chosen God if they lived longer or didn't have mental illness? We all have free will, but do they have free will? I've heard Dr Turek say that some people don't want to be in heaven. It would be torture for them ? But I also think, for these people , are they considered unsinful because they don't know what it means to go against God? The Bible says sin is when someone knows it's sin. Any feed back welcome❤️🙏
If I had to guess, the great cloud of witnesses might refer to the Angels which are different from us, we do not become angels when we go to heaven. But there are lots of examples where Angels appear and interact in this earthly place. Yet the angels have interaction with God in the heavenly place. There is actually a lot of evidence in the Bible that both Heaven and Hell have physical properties, a physical place, not just a spiritual place. That is worth noting I think. I would also disagree with Frank that Heaven hasn't been made yet, it say's in Genesis that God made the Heavens as well and in Revelations it's a New Heaven that is to be made at the end of time. But I have a feeling Frank knows that and maybe just did not think of it at the time.
It's good answers generally, but on spiritual gifts I completely disagree. They are active in today's church and are more common than most people think.
Hebrew does not have progressives, no perfect tenses, and no compound tenses. The original Pentatuch texts were written in Hebrew without punctuation or chapters. Genesis 1 and 2 have seemingly different creation chronogies, due to literary arrangements. Genesis 1:16 is not a chronological account but an explanation of why the sun was created (in verse 1). Genesis 2 elaborates the why of the creation in Genesis 1. The main idea is that everything God created was for the purpose of sustaining life on earth for the benefit of humans.
I agree with Chip that there are surely people within Mormonism, Catholism, Jehova Witness who find their way to salcation. But your assumption that if someone within those religions say they believe in Jesus and that He rose may not work simply because a religion preaches jesus does not mean within that religion they are referring to "the Jesus." Mormons for instance believe the Jesus they teach is equal to Joseph Smith, not one third of the triune Godhead.
Yes the gift of salvation is free, but we miss the Lords commandment "Go teaching them and baptizing them in my name". By the way, baptism is NOT a work. It is an act of obedience to the commandment. Peter said it is also an appeal to a clear conscience. We sit and bicker about this when it is so clear (mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and Acts 18, et.al.). We are also to rise up and live godly lives and then spread the good news!!! Are those works? No, just obedience.
I love Frank Turek, but i have one question about this. Does he really believe the Baptist denomination is incorrect, or was that just a joke? That comment completely caught me off guard. Somewhere around 28:30 ish
I’m pretty confident he was joking. My former (Baptist) pastor used to joke that folks would say to him, “You Baptists think you’re the only ones going to Heaven.” His reply, “No. We don’t think all of us are going, either.” 😂
Frank Turek is a lucid, logical man. Praise God.
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He is an irrational man
Frank is a credit to God and the human race. Thank you Lord for this platform, I pray the lost do not continue to harden their hearts.
@@henryjazire9234 lol
@@Bomtombadi1imagine not having a single argument and being so mad you can’t refute a single thing he’s said so you just try to mock 😂
We love Dr. Turek.
I'd like to be able to ask the guy speaking about a humble and honest seeking agnostic, what IS your standard for evidence? Like what would qualify to you as enough or good enough I mean. I went through about a year and a halfish of studying apologetics, strenuously, seeking the truth daily after being indoctrinated by a couple years of the joe Rogan podcast and others. It wasn't until I was at the sink doin dishes one day that I said "God, idk if you're real or if the Christian Bible is true, but I'm just gonna do what it says." Iv never meant anything iv said so much before. I woke up the next day, and I felt different but didn't realize it entirely until I evaluated my behavior a couple days later. Changes occurred in my life that iv never been able to have control over, the way I treated people, the things I thought about, everything about me was just suddenly different. Now, did God tell me that he's real and that he made these changes in my life? No not at all, but it the best explanation.. I believe that it is. What qualifies as evidence to you? I think that's an important question to ask yourself, evaluated your standards and ask yourself if you're being reasonable.
Hey! I’m the guy that asked the question. I’ve been a Christian my entire life, and have been seriously studying the faith (including heading off to school to become an apologist for four years of that time) for more than a decade.
Here’s the unfortunate fact I had to learn the hard way. While I remain a Christian for a number of complex reasons, the historical evidence does not reach the standards an average person (not predisposed to Christian belief) would apply to such a metaphysically significant claim.
To help you feel the weight of what I just said, honestly listen to a Muslim or Jewish or Mormon apologist and truly ponder how little their historical arguments move you. After coming up with the standard of evidence each one would need to meet to persuade you, then apply that standard back to your acceptance of Christian historical arguments.
This process will take you much longer than a year if you are to take it seriously. Until then, please respect those who have actually done the hard work
It is very possible to be an agnostic or atheist worth celebrating… because intellectual honesty is worth celebrating.
@@justinbailey9690 I appreciate your reply man. I went through my own thing, I can't imagine what you are, especially considering the amount of time you're talkin. I'm so thankful God decided to rescue what I was going through in my mind. There's more than I really wanted to say publicly, things of demonic nature. I agree that intellectual honesty is absolutely worth celebrating, I hope you can have genuine peace of mind one of these days, you sound like you've been on an interesting journey. Get ahold of me on Facebook if you're ever interested in hearing about some of the things I haven't mentioned publicly, you'll be scratchin your head for sure lol. Either way, I commend you on your truth pursuit .
Thanks for sharing that
My explanation in a basic 3 parts is the Universe through Creation and the precision in science, prophecy in detail and the real proven sacred scriptures and my own personal experience of being a new person completely different from who i was, whom is a much better person with peace, joy and contentment.
Uk street preacher:
@Justin Bailey Thanks for sharing some of your story Justin!
Would you be able to give an example of a historical fact about Jesus or scripture that caused you to pause and ponder things?
Thank you!
Frank you always make me laugh 😂 Your jokes are so funny and your delivery is well executed and had helped deliver me.
God Bless these men
I enjoyed this so much I watched it twice. You both answered many questions I had in my own head. Thank you.
1:14:21 to 1:16:38 is one that really stuck out to me and I'm glad he talked about that. I'd love to hear more on that topic
He punished Himself for us via Jesus out of His Love. 🤯 🤯🤯 man I wish I had it put to me like that before! He is Authentically Awesome indeed
whether someone else chooses to punish himself, is not a gesture that has anything to do with me, nor does it entitle such a figure to demand that I owe him anything for it.
nor his is reason for claiming to do or have done so, a motive for me to adore him especially.
GOD would punish himself? For what?
I enjoy Franks' wisdom n communication skills , but on rare occasions there are no answers to some questions in this life n it is best sometimes to just say only God knows
Really appreciate this talk! God bless both of you!
This is an amazing interview! Praise the LORD JESUS CHRIST!!
God bless your ministry brother Frank 🙏
Thanks Pastor Chip and Dr. Turek. You able to answer many questions I had and hope you guys will do this again in the future:).
I have heard Dr Turek speak twice in person. He does an amazing job of simplifying the gospel and the Bible.
It's whether or not you've believed, love, and obeyed the Lord and continue on that road in life!
I love listening to Frank & Chip. But you know what I think, when we finally arrive in heaven the many questions that concerned us on earth will not matter to us. we will think without fear there will be no darkness because our beloved Blessed Hope Jesus is The Light there is no darkness.. How good is God mmmmm the lover of our souls. 💞hallelujah 💓🇦🇺
If the question of how old the Earth and all Creation is, from a Biblical perspective, is what's causing conflict about your faith, you really need to try harder. How old everything is, is ultimately irrelevant. The basis of Christian faith isn't how old everything is, but in what Christ did for us and that accepting and welcoming God into our lives is our salvation.
Jesus taught about Adam and Eve. If Adam was not created on day 6, then he was not the first Adam who resulted in the 2nd Adam to die for our sins.
GREAT DISCUSSION/ Q&A🙌🏿🙌🏿🙏🏿
Thank you! I'm Catholic. I appreciate your faith/works explanation. Once you have faith--IDK--the works just come along with it. You can never do enough works to, on your own, earn your way to heaven. But your works are important, right? Evidence of your faith.
God bless you guys!
You are right on. Ephesians 2 verse 8,9 For by Grace saved through faith that’s not of yourselves a gift card not of works lest any man should boast.
Verse 10 we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for us to do good works.
How many Christians skip first which is so important to show us that we truly have faith by doing works
@@danpozzi3307 And you do your works quietly and humbly. What is the verse about the --I think Pharisees who wear sackcloth and all that. No---you do your service with a happy heart.
LOL I teach 4th grade at a Catholic school and I make the kids do things like take out trash and help the little kids, hold doors for people---and I'm like a Nazi sometimes, "Do with a happy heart!!!" LOL But---I still want them to learn and feel the quiet rewards from services. True, you can't earn your way to heaven but you can sure be a representative of our Father while you are here on earth.
@@melissasw64 great to meet you and thank a fellow believer for teaching those youth. God’s best
The answer to your question is yes
@@smashleyscott8272 Thank you. I just don't see how, if you truly accept and love God, the works don't just come right along with that.
Love your comments on LGBTQ+, Frank. Very good session. Thank you. God bless!
Frank knows nothing about that topic, but why would a detail such as lack of knowledge, ever stop him from talking.
Only God knows our hearts.
This was a wonderful Q&A💕🙏
As a true believer in Christ, I follow his word and repent for my sins. It is for Christ to grant me salvation. For only Christ knows what is in our hearts.
However you should be assured because that’s what he wants, he wants you to have the joy of your salvation
@@Bossman21D amen
The Father and Holy Spirit know as well
@@JesusistheonetrueGod I believe in In God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Any one part of God is God, implicitly or explicitly. God bless.
@@JesusistheonetrueGod your name says it all. Please see my previous response. God bless
This was amazing. Thank you so much for doing this.
Thank you, all the way from Northern Ireland.
Frank Turek you do good bywhat you havebeen doing all along. I salute you good sir. For atheists and non believers may not take in onwhats been said here all by stubbornness and disbelief. I think that we need more scientists whowalk in faith to discuss the journeys theyhave gone through because they who are in the field of science know more what it islike to be faithless and not with Christ.
I would love to hear an alternate plan for salvation. I always hear, why did God do it like he did, he could have just saved everyone. That is basically stripping away the free will aspect. The plan he set into motion from the beginning of time was absolutley brilliant.
Develop a personal fellowship with Christ daily and meditate on His word day and night. Plant God's word into your hearts and others, because the cares of the world/Satan will steal it if you let him/them. Obey God and grow in a deeper relationship with Him to exercise His will. Know who you are in Christ Jesus.
Proverbs 4:23
"Keep your heart with all diligence,
For out of it spring the issues of life.
Put away from you a deceitful mouth,"
Psalms 1:2
"but whose delight is in the law of the LORD, and who meditates on his law day and night."
Thank you for your comment. Your words affected me deeply. God bless you! Today I will meditate on Christ and his word. May God fill us with his spirit, in Jesus name. Amen!
@@eastwood111 You welcome.
Mark 4:19
“and the cares of this world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things entering in choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. “
So good, so informative, God bless you both!
I like this a lot hope they make more of this again.
You guys are awesome 🎉
So awesome
Awesome video and sermon God bless you Frank he clearly has
Ok, Frank, love your work! So I'm 3.5 years into being saved. The first 2 was me reading the bible at home. The last 1.5 I've started to attend a Baptist church! When you said 'even some Baptist might be saved' what did you mean? I call myself a disciple of Jesus over a denomination. What am I missing. From New Zealand and I have your book and will read over Christmas!
Hi there, he was just making a joke... I think the point is, that you can not make general statements like `everyone who goes to a Baptist church is saved', because that is not the case.. so yeah.. Hope you get what I mean.. :)
@e.n.6079 Thanks for explaining, I understand now. It's the most serious thing I've ever done, and I have JWs around me along with Catholics, so I want to understand the depths of differences. Hey thanks again I appreciate you putting in the time to respond:)
@@RR-gi9vo Very welcome! Well, Jehovas witnesses do have a complete different theology where Jesus is not seen as God Himself.
Catholicism is basically saying that "Jesus and grace *+* your own efforts and good works " and then the worshipping of Saints, Mary ... The pope..very unbiblical indeed!
If you do have more questions feel free to ask. Take care!
Wait, how exactly was the thief on the cross wrong? Jesus clearly says that all authority has been given to Him _after_ He resurrects. The way I've heard it taught is that Jesus was somehow limited when He walked the earth, and only after rising again does He return fully to His glory, ie to the throne, to the kingdom.
If that's not the case, then it raises questions about other passages, namely how does Jesus pray, how does He get tempted, and how does He die?
There is no grace without truth. Truth is what IS. EVERYTHING starts with what IS.
Love this !!!!!
Excellent answers
It might be a literal flame, I mean most near death experience "survivors", do say it is a Literal flame.
May the LORD GOD bless all of you. And I hope that all of you will find GOD
What I can never understand about transgenderism is how they even define what a woman is. They think being a woman is having long hair, glue on nails, wearing mini skirts/ heals / and the color pink. In fact being a woman is none of those things! My favorite color is white not pink.. my hair is shorter not long.. I don’t even prefer to wear dresses and skirts but im fully biologically a woman. Being a woman means a lot of things for example having a period once a month and dealing with the hormonal changes that happen when that takes place, sacrificing my body for 9 months to carry a human life inside of me and then birthing that human life in the most painful way.. then sacrificing my breasts for two more years to nurse that child. Those are only a few examples.. putting on a wig/mascara/high heels/ and a skirt doesn’t make you a woman .. that’s sexist. Being a woman is much more and you either are or you are not. The end.
@jane....so well put that my day will be peaceful .
Well said! GOD said that he made man and woman. Are we allowed to yeah but? GOD made us in his image. Non-believers are trying to make HIM in their image. DUH...And I have the compassion to tell them so. You go girl! I mean Ma'am;)
I think it just calms the dysphoria a bit to pretend. And when they don’t really look that much like a woman they have to be extreme with their outward costume. If that makes sense.
@@lukeism2 it calms the demons that have possessed them when they comply with its demands
For the issue of Ephesians 2:8-9 Vs. James 2:24, I look at it like Ephesians is saying how you are saved where James is saying that your salvation is evident or justified through works. You cannot do any work to earn salvation. If that were the case, then Jesus died for nothing. Through grace, which is freely given, you are humbling yourself accepting that only God's intervention can redeem you. Through accepting Christ, your heart condition changes and what occurs on the outside, like behavior, deeds, and expression of love, long suffering, and self-control etc., is the evidence that shows that you have accepted Christ and that you have faith in him.
This was / is an incredible episode.
Answers many questions and feelings that have entered my mind.
Sometimes it is very difficult to have the confidence of salvation without the arrogance of being right.
Claiming knowing / following Christ but being told that Christ will(may) respond with the 'not knowing you' (paraphrased) is a concern.
@@bones2614 blah blah blah.
I know that doesn't seem like an intelligent answer, but you don't seem to be listening when 'it's DONE', and it is adequate.
Just because a majority of people think a certain way, that does NOT make them correct. The last two+ years have been a prime example of that.
Go find a different enemy.
love the different questions love his point of views
Love these Q and A ... stunning truth with fun too.
Uk street preacher.
Are you with OAM?
I really enjoy evangelizing in the UK. I wish I could continue to do so, but I actually live in Germany. :D
Anyways, may God bless you!
If one is punished forever and Yeshua/Jesus was punished for our sins, why isn't Yeshua still being punished? I am a believer. Thank you so much for your time.
My only issue with the Genesis answer is that it seems to me like the structure does make it clear that Yom is intended to be a literal 24 hour day in this context.
There is additional theology that would also seem to contradict a long ages framework, particularly that death would have to come before sin, which blatantly contradicts sound theology.
Regarding faith alone it's time to clarify: Romans 3:28 is a key verse in the differences between traditional Protestants and Catholics. You will notice that Paul says a man is justified by faith (pistei in Greek). When Martin Luther translated the letter to the Romans into German in the sixteenth century, he added the word alone -but alone is not in the original Greek text. The phrase “faith alone” does occur in the New Testament: one time, in James 2:24. There the inspired apostle denies that justification is from faith alone. Let me quote it: “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Even thief on cross did things, declaring his belief in Jesus, true repentance from sin and desire to follow Jesus, so its never has and never will be "faith alone", but rather collaborating with God's grace.
For that blood question check this out:
Isa 53:12 - Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
So Jesus poured out his soul for our transgressions?
Jhn 19:34 - But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
But it was his blood and water?
Gen 4:10 - And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
Blood has a voice?
I’m just speculating but is the soul and blood interchangeable?
The idea that time space and matter are co-dependant is flawed. Time and space can still exist with the absence of matter. So only matter had a starting point. When that was is not clear, but you cannot begin to calculate time and space without it. Because you require reference for calculation. Time itself is also a subjective concept, such as our own day calculated by our own surroundings.
Also, the thief on the cross , my understanding is Jesus saw his heart and knew that if he could have gotten down and lived he would have done whatever he had to do to be saved even if it meant baptism or anything. So his intent, not so much about through faith alone . If anyone would like to help me with this and point out where I could be wrong🙏❤️
My understanding is that the Catholic sacraments are not for salvation but for our temporal life. Good works are to achieve sainthood and avoid purgatory or lessen the time. Is my way of thinking correct or incorrect? I welcome feedback❤️🙏
Hi there, well the Bible does not speak about purgatory (this is a concept you have in Catholicism). The thing is that in the Catholic teaching it is "JESUS and grace + your own works" in order to work out Salvation, which is not biblical.
The Bible says we are saved by grace alone through faith in the LORD JESUS CHRIST:
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
The Holy Spirit dwelling inside a true believer (someone who has truly repented of their sins and put all their trust alone in the LORD JESUS CHRIST and is therefore born again) is helping us to live holy before the living God.
Hope that did help a bit.
Greetings:)
The verse "We are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses" , Its talking about the other believers on the earth that know like we know And they bare witness of the truth, just like Frank here for example. Hes apart of the cloud. Thats what i think.
54:16 I had a friend (now deceased) who had a hyper-predestination theology. For example, he once asked me if God knew I was going to be wearing the shirt I had on. "Well, God has total knowledge, so sure He did." Then my friend asked me if God could have stopped me from putting that shirt on. "Um. Yeah. He's all powerful..." Next question, did God stop me from putting that shirt on. "No. He did not."
So my friend's conclusion: God knew I was going to put that shirt on. God could have stopped me but He didn't. Conclusion: God MADE me put that shirt on.
Ya just can't get through to some people.
God also created the Universe in which you put that shirt on, and knowing you would do so as a result of his actions. Had he structured his reality differently then you might have worn another shirt or been buck naked, but that too would've been his choice as he knew what would follow.
Hyper-predestination is a natural consequence of your conception of your deity's 'total knowledge.'
You still had free will in your choosing to put that shirt on. God isn't making you wear that shirt because He knew you would and allowed it to happen. That's like watching my son pull his arm back with a rock in his hand and say to me he is going to throw it through a window. I just stand and watch him break the window even though I knew he was going to. I didn't make him throw the rock at the window. He did it by his choice alone.
@@OttoTheGermanShepherd Except your god didn't see your son pulling back his arm the moment he did or said so, but before the first moment even existed. Before you existed. Before he existed. Your god created the reality in your which your son threw that rock. No matter which reality your god creates he'd know every outcome and choose which ones he wanted through the shaping of our reality. This is an an unavoidable consequence of the omnisciene Rog ascribes too.
The analogy would work better if you knew your son would potentially throw that rock before you impregnated his mother. And then deliberately, with perfect foreknowledge and clarity, came the moment that potential would become an actuality in the future. You made your son throw that rock.
@@pierrelindgren5727 you waited up his entire life until he threw the rock and didn’t stop him. Why? He chose to throw it. You did not make the choice to throw the rock, you made the choice to allow the rock to be thrown
God can act in any situation but he chooses not to because our having free will in this existence is paramount to him
the thing about the 2 geneologies of Jesus, one being his mother and the other being Jospeh, one had to do with the royal line going back to david (joseph) and the other the jewish line (mary) both providing evidence that Jesus had legal and royal claim to the throne of israel
How did that work out for him? ;-)
The thief on the cross had the doctrine exactly correct. Israel's salvation is a future salvation.
Acts 3:21 KJV Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
1Pet 1:10 KJV Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
Jesus love you
John 3:16
Let Jesus say it by himself.
@@Mavors1099 he did
@@backjack7068
Nope
@@Mavors1099 in the Bible he says
@@backjack7068
He didn't say it to me.
What's my fate of I have no desire to read the bible?and when I do I don't understand it,do I lose my salvation?or will it just be more difficult here on earth, is Jesus still with me?am I lost forever?
Let me encourage you to listen to preachers. You have to make sure they are teaching correctly, but ask God to bring the desire to you. We all have this problem. We get on you tube or we get distracted, He will bring it to you. God knows us, we are selfish and lazy (I know I am) but I ask Him to stoke the fires in my heart for Him and it comes. Do not get discourage Este, He is always listening.
Hi, how are you by now?
The surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses passage probably confirms my long held conviction that the whole drama of creation was predicated on the conflict between God and the angels. The war that ended in heaven with the removal of the fallen angels and their being cast down to earth had raised the necessity for God to end a certain unresolved issue in the hearts of even the loyal angels. The question was whether God alone deserved worship. To answer that question God planned to raise weaker creations made from dust (in line with His eternal word that if "these" should no longer cry out Hosanna the stones would cry out in their place) and these would worship Him. The weaker creations made from dust or stones turns out to be us humans. Essentially then the angels have all along been scoping us with wonderment to see if we would make the mark. Reminds me of a line in the hymn "And can it be that I should gain..." where the hymnist wrote "T'is mercy all, let earth adore, let angels minds inquire no more."
This so explains why Satan the head of the rebellion had to act swiftly to derail the whole project by tempting Adam and Eve. Needless to say, had he delayed and the whole program panned out without interruption, things would've turned out very much differently. So, yes, the great cloud of witnesses will have to be the angels who are scrutinizing our every move to see how weaker beings like us could come to fill up an holy office such as worship. Remember when Jesus said that the Father is seeking for those who will worship Him?! Meanwhile, that is no indication that an all-sufficient God is lacking in something and needs our worship as the fact this was made an issue by the rebels - and so God - to prove a point - is relying on weaker vessels like us.
I hope this makes some sense.
I would like to follow this church, is there a link to their youtube channel I could use?
49:46 approaching with Love
thht question about women preachers. if i may add the following comment---
3 women preaching Christ, one in the jungle mission field, one on a street corner passing out tracts and one standing in the pulpit in a Christian church. Two of those will be lauded and praised for their courage and answering the call of God. The other one will be accused of heresy, feminism, rebelliousness, disobedience to God’s word, told to repent. Nothing about the message changed. Only the location.
And one tornado with good aim will turn that church into an open air location--then can that woman who was not allowed to preach inside a church now bring the message of christ on that same spot where the church once stood?
So when God says something is GOOD or for FOOD like in Genesis 1:29, then why do so many claim that marijuana is evil and sinful???? God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and GOD does not LIE.
Because it impairs your abilities. It’s the same as drunkenness by alcohol. It is drunkenness by marijuana
My thought is people will be tormented consciously to pay for their sins then be annihilated . But I could be wrong. I'm learning
Frank Turek: “Many People are looking for God, like a criminal looking for a Cop”. Well Said Frank, well said.
I don’t know if they touch on this in this presentation but I would like to know if Dr. Turek has the same view of Revelation as Dr. Bennett?
Amen
I have trouble seeing the references to the Lake of Fire as allegory.
Yeah, I think it might be real flames.
Where about Jesus's expression that says: If you love me you will follow my commends! This doesn't mean that we have work to do for our salvation but fulfilling the law as manifestation of conversion...
So if a person accepts Christ but willfully continues to pursue sin, then that is of no consequence in their salvation?
1:12:00 if the artwork makes you worship remember Jesus, and worship Him, it's not a graven image
A long time ago some one prophesized that my parents would be people that others go to for rest and peace and they were right. Is this coincidence? Im also skeptical of people that say they prophisize over people
What does the pastor mean when he says hell isn’t literal flames? It is literally fire. People who end up in hell will literally burn forever and ever.
21:07 yup! Purpose is a principle of God ❤ two men and two women in sexual immorality doesn’t lead to purpose to union with God - yes a men and women who can’t bear children have purpose, their union gives God glory. Children and sex are byproduct of man and woman coming together as one.
OK... I wouldn't want to be a child anywhere near you... or your god. ;-)
Wages of sin is death.
How the heck do you find out about these events I would love to go
Frank Turek has a TH-cam channel called Cross Examined.
Time stamp 33:00
This doesn't match other scriptures about one's actions. If your right hand caused you to sin, then cut it off. Why? Because the action can disqualify your unearned free gift of salvation.
I see it as, it isn't good for us and God wants what's best for us, not that we will lose salvation for it.
Frank said that god have plans we can not know and ripple effect is part of it. So that alone means we do not have free will since god control the outcome of something.
1:12 Imagine being so petty and so small-minded that you initiate a church split because you think some stained glass windows and a painting of Jesus are “graven images.” Nobody is worshipping the stained glass or the paint on the wall, guys. Chill out.
I wish I knew dr frank was coming to Sarasota, I’d of came and watched live
According to the Bible Psalm 37:20 the wicked shall be consumed like the fat of the Lamb. One text there is 100 more where that came from.perish.death. Destroyed. Burnt up. Ashes under your feet. Remember JESUS said my sheep hear my voice and the follow me and I give them eternal life. If we are eternal being how can HE say that.
For people that don't have the metal capacity to understand Jesus or babies that pass away, in a way, is their free will taken away? Or does God know that those are the people that would have chosen God if they lived longer or didn't have mental illness? We all have free will, but do they have free will? I've heard Dr Turek say that some people don't want to be in heaven. It would be torture for them ? But I also think, for these people , are they considered unsinful because they don't know what it means to go against God? The Bible says sin is when someone knows it's sin. Any feed back welcome❤️🙏
Here in NZ it is now against the law for to get therapy for gender issues or being attracted to the same sex . I think they call it conversion therapy
Could the witness be saints?
You're not in hell for adultery, theft or stealing, your crime was rebellion against God. As long as that continues, so will the punishment.
If I had to guess, the great cloud of witnesses might refer to the Angels which are different from us, we do not become angels when we go to heaven. But there are lots of examples where Angels appear and interact in this earthly place. Yet the angels have interaction with God in the heavenly place. There is actually a lot of evidence in the Bible that both Heaven and Hell have physical properties, a physical place, not just a spiritual place. That is worth noting I think. I would also disagree with Frank that Heaven hasn't been made yet, it say's in Genesis that God made the Heavens as well and in Revelations it's a New Heaven that is to be made at the end of time. But I have a feeling Frank knows that and maybe just did not think of it at the time.
1:19:34 -Last Thursday
It's good answers generally, but on spiritual gifts I completely disagree. They are active in today's church and are more common than most people think.
What spiritual gifts?
15:18
Acts 5
Ananias and Sapphira are judged.
In Revelations 1-3 Jesus doles out rewards and judgement to the churches of the current time.
Hebrew does not have progressives, no perfect tenses, and no compound tenses. The original Pentatuch texts were written in Hebrew without punctuation or chapters. Genesis 1 and 2 have seemingly different creation chronogies, due to literary arrangements. Genesis 1:16 is not a chronological account but an explanation of why the sun was created (in verse 1). Genesis 2 elaborates the why of the creation in Genesis 1. The main idea is that everything God created was for the purpose of sustaining life on earth for the benefit of humans.
Can’t the kingdom also be an later event ?
I agree with Chip that there are surely people within Mormonism, Catholism, Jehova Witness who find their way to salcation. But your assumption that if someone within those religions say they believe in Jesus and that He rose may not work simply because a religion preaches jesus does not mean within that religion they are referring to "the Jesus." Mormons for instance believe the Jesus they teach is equal to Joseph Smith, not one third of the triune Godhead.
Yes the gift of salvation is free, but we miss the Lords commandment "Go teaching them and baptizing them in my name". By the way, baptism is NOT a work. It is an act of obedience to the commandment. Peter said it is also an appeal to a clear conscience. We sit and bicker about this when it is so clear (mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and Acts 18, et.al.). We are also to rise up and live godly lives and then spread the good news!!! Are those works? No, just obedience.
Good
What's wrong with Baptist?
The creation is an intricate web of life that was created over a short period to work. Evolution over a long period of time says death before sin.
what causes yelling
Frank you are talking about an Invisible Supernatural Entity so please show me how this "spirit" shows you anything ? I am curious ?
Straight is the way that leads to eternal life. And few will find it. . You make the road to heaven too wide. Judgement will be based on what we do
I love Frank Turek, but i have one question about this. Does he really believe the Baptist denomination is incorrect, or was that just a joke? That comment completely caught me off guard. Somewhere around 28:30 ish
I’m pretty confident he was joking. My former (Baptist) pastor used to joke that folks would say to him, “You Baptists think you’re the only ones going to Heaven.” His reply, “No. We don’t think all of us are going, either.” 😂
I'm pretty sure he was kidding.
39:42 I laughed so much!!