Ducati Monster Broken Side Stand Switch - Why?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Hi guys, welcome to my channel, we had a Ducati monster in with a broken side stand switch due a poor (previous) repair. I repaired the side stand and fitted a new switch.
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As always a nice clear assessment, good camera work and the correct result.......nuff said.
Thanks for video. I’m just looking at mine since I’ve noticed the bolts are slack. Those bolts are meant to have thread lock and be correctly torqued to 36Nm so it's very risky doing them up with a gun into ally as that can easily strip the threads.
During an MOT the testers are pulling the bike over on the stand to get the wheels off the ground and I think this is damaging the mounting. Why can’t test stations be equipped and use proper stands? In future I’m going to insist they don’t lever my bike over on the stand like that.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for commenting. It is very difficult to strip out ali, especially on a 10mm bolt.
I don't quite understand why people think aluminium is like chewing gum. Cylinder heads, engine blocks, wheels, most car chassis including Tesla's, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Maserati's and all aircrafts, landing gear are made from Aluminium. It's a tough and durable material. The reason Ducati stands come loose is because 36Nm isn't tight enough, on an average M10 bolt the torque should be around 50Nm.
I MOT around 1000 bike per year.
Where achievable I will use the side stand (or centre stand) to lift the front of the bike, this is a crucial part of the MOT test, as you have to check for wheel bearings, wheel run out, brake bind, fork play and flex, head bearings for play & notchiness, etc. Now Triumph's and others have an aluminium stand which carry the weight of the bike when lifted without an issue, it seems to only be the Ducati Monster's that has this problem (and Chinese bikes, lets not forget those god for saken things). There is no specific tool or equipment set out by DVSA to use for front lift. For example on a Harley Davidson (or alike) where it is impossible to lift via the stand, you can use a trolley jack (or similar) to lift the front, but you will still use the side as part of a tripod lift, using the stand, the rear wheel and the jack, it's the same for the rear components inspection, stand, front wheel and jack.
I hope this has answered and highlighted your question. As always thanks for watching and commenting ☺👍
Thanks for commenting. I agree 36Nm is too low a torque and will use around 50Nm since checking in various recommendations that seems a sensible figure at the lower end of the range for that size of bolt. Regarding MOT and side stand, in my case there was no jack being used and I don’t accept it’s ok to do it like that. Test stations should be better equipped and something like an Abba stand with a range of adapters could be used. There are instances where KTMs stand mounts have also been damaged as they are similar to Ducati bolting directly to the motor. For Northern Ireland MOT if the bike can’t be lifted easily then the requirement is for the tester to make an overall assessment negating levering it over on the stand.
Check this out from U.K. MOT…On machines without a centre stand, suitable equipment must be used to raise the wheels clear of the ground, either independently or simultaneously, using an assistant where necessary. Pulling a motorcycle over on its side-stand is not recommended.
The machine should be jacked so that the wheels are hanging free.
@@chrishard7616 I agree it does say 'not recommended' but it doesn't say 'DO NOT' in the MOT testers inspection manual. In section 12 there's an inspection routine diagram, in box 3 it says place machine on its stand (not specifying centre stand) and raise front wheel. www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/introduction
No MOT tester wants to damage a customers vehicle, but these are the rules and procedures we adhere to. If a tester is in doubt they will pass and advise as the test is usually in the favour of the presenter (you the customer)
Please don't confuse England's MOT tests with other countries as there will always be a slight variation.
Great topic Chris, thanks for engaging ☺