I was taught that headshots were unethical because if you miss the brain and hit the snout/jaw, the animal will starve to death. The brain is a relatively small target compared to the lungs/heart/liver
@@theGreaseRamirezdepends on the shooter, the rifle, and the conditions, distance, wind, etc. if you’re not getting sub moa at 100 yards I wouldn’t try it
Might not be the case for every European country, but as far as I known you can get a hunting license, or in some cases just sign up with your local hunting club to be allowed to carry and use rifles and pistols while hunting.
@@NobleSavage44 doesn’t matter what it is, if it hits a vital organ or the central nervous system that animal would die. My friend shot that doe with a 270 Winchester at 55 yards. Missing the arteries and spine led that deer to living. And they had her on camera up until last year, and she was wounded in 2021. Even if it was a 30-06, do you really think .7 of cm would have made a different?
My daughter when she was 12 dropped her first deer with this shot. It just crumpled and didn't move. The old timers we hunt with all call it the shot that drops
My grandfather growing up every deer he brought home had a bullet in the neck. I always asked him. I’m like why do you shoot them in the neck. He was like because they don’t go anywhere.
After chatting with aloy of hunters frim over seas , point blank what what consider acceptable shooting and what most hunters in the US consider acceptable shooting are two completely different things. Being able to take a head shot on deer sized game at the average distances you see most shoot deer in the us is just expected. Same with knowing the anatomy of a animal....vs the us where its alot of big middle and behind the shoulder stuff
I once heard a story about my dad and his grandfather were hunting and his grandfather hit the dear dead center through the heart my dad said that’s he’s never seen someone else do it
Lung/heart area with an SKS with Winchester Silvertips was last one my stepfather and I took before he passed away, was the mixed gender part of the season, he saw a good sized doe and we took her with a heart/lung area shot. She dropped right then and there and went nowhere.
Headshots are unethical in Europe too, for boars so-so, but in case of deer especially with trophy its a cardinal sin. Here the most common mounts are skull mounts anyways.
Blew the bottom of the heart off of my biggest buck with .50 round ball from 20 yards he went another 20 yards and laid down dead dad was a neck shooter with his 7400 in 3006 he didn't track much.
in sweden where i live its like an unwhritten rule that you aim for the shoulder blade, with 2 broken blades they are not going far and you also have the lungs behind them
To be ethical you need to target the lungs and heart. This means the animal is broadside. Targeting other areas can easily leave a wounded animal that gets away and suffers. While there are a very few exceptions a hunter pretty much needs to stick to this unless they have gained much experience and knowledge to adjust to those rare exceptions.
I tried that once with a 30/30 at 20 yards while it was looking my way . The first one dropped it then it stood back up idled . I hit it a second time , down it went . It stood back up so the third round I put through the ears and that did the job .
Honestly, Ive lived by the head and neck rule and it has worked wonders the past few years. Head for doe Neck for buck Both are quick and efficient kills whilst preserving to most meat possible and preserving any racks. I live in Pennsylvania so skull mounts are the most common anyway unless the deer is a slammer.
The No.1 worst place to hit one is when you're going 60, at night, on a country highway during a new moon in the rain. 0/10 experience. Busted my radiator, hood, fender and both headlights but took out 3 at once.
Kneck is generally good but ive seen a deer that had a solid kneck shot and it lived and healed. Not sure how much longer till the next guy got him but the scar tissue was clear as day
They still go after a heart shot. Especially with a bow. I got the top of the heart a bottom of both lungs this past season an my buck prolly went about 30 yards or so. I cut once’s heart pretty much right in half a few yrs ago an he still went 50 yards or better.
When bow hunting I'll always say go for the heart or lungs but with a rifle if it's a doe or something I know I won't want mounted the neck shot never fails but if I think I'll want it mounted I'll just hit the shoulder my 270 makes it impossible for me to mount my deer with a neck shit
As somebody else said. I don’t take head shots because a slight miss means you shoot snout off and the stare to death
Deer kill?
@@JohnAdams-fm4gt ?
Head shots are not ethical
@@killer47003how?
Same excuse can be used for anywhere ya aim Bo
I was taught that headshots were unethical because if you miss the brain and hit the snout/jaw, the animal will starve to death. The brain is a relatively small target compared to the lungs/heart/liver
If you have a big round it won't matter
@@theGreaseRamirezdepends on the shooter, the rifle, and the conditions, distance, wind, etc. if you’re not getting sub moa at 100 yards I wouldn’t try it
Fair yeah, they got serious pea brains.
@@theGreaseRamirezthis👍
That what I was told too
Nobody in Europe says you should hit the head
I didn't think that Europeans were allowed to have guns.
Might not be the case for every European country, but as far as I known you can get a hunting license, or in some cases just sign up with your local hunting club to be allowed to carry and use rifles and pistols while hunting.
@@ericschneider8524you must be American hunting rifles are allowed pretty much everywhere
@@ericschneider8524you can in most European countries, you just heard propaganda that we can’t. We can lol
Europeans be eating the heads
Projectile speed. Slow projectile = heart or lung. Fast projectile = neck. Headshots are for shots on pets in canned high fence meat shoots.
As an asian, "save the meat" is the most asian thing I have ever heard.
You only think that cuz you're asian, I could say, I'm Hispanic, and save the meat is the most Hispanic thing I've heard.
Ford F350 with a ranch hand bumper works every time
😂 u aint ever lied
@@dockslinger3187 what do you mean
@Homemadeacres I was meaning "I know u right". I was agreeing with ya. 👍
Hey you can't forget the high shoulder shot
Arteries? The spine is in the neck - that’s why they drop instantly.
Carotid and Jugular runs up the neck same as a human. The spine also runs all the way down the aninals back thats not the shot hes talking about
No
Im going to agree completely, some guys go with spine shots but i prefer to avoid shooting the best meat
Just got my first deer last fall with a double lung shot. 7 point buck
No bad old man
Congrats
Nice man
I have seen deer shot in the neck, did not break the neck or hit arteries, and live.
Probably a 6.5CM, doesn’t sound like a 30-06’s results.
@@NobleSavage44 doesn’t matter what it is, if it hits a vital organ or the central nervous system that animal would die. My friend shot that doe with a 270 Winchester at 55 yards. Missing the arteries and spine led that deer to living. And they had her on camera up until last year, and she was wounded in 2021. Even if it was a 30-06, do you really think .7 of cm would have made a different?
Reading some peoples preferred shot placement in the comments is insane
Double long is best for archery tackle, given you hunt ethically
2 years ago I shot my first buck, double lung and heart. I’ve been hooked ever since
The title of this should have "with a rifle" attached to it lol
100%
Deer can run up to 135 yards with a heart shot in a Feld
No it can’t
@@yackson4804 yes it can it literally happen to me
@@huntinwithfen you missed the heart
@@yackson4804 look it up
@yackson4804 I hit a doe a couple years ago in muzzleloader season and turned the heart into pulp. She ran about 65 yards.
Double lung and or heart is the biggest target and most ethical that is the KEY word here people ETHICAL !!!
Right behind the shoulder in the boiler room
Man I thought the Texas heart shot would’ve made the list.
Haha😂
😂
Me being a deer therian looking for deer vocals and this comes up:
High shoulder shuts down central nerves system instant death. Number 1
Not instant bc it doesn’t kill it
My daughter when she was 12 dropped her first deer with this shot. It just crumpled and didn't move. The old timers we hunt with all call it the shot that drops
I was hunting double lung heart shot and it ran 45 yards the heart liked like a pancake from 40 yearns 7mm o8
I prefer on a straightaway instead of the curve. Been almost ran over in the curve 😂
My grandfather growing up every deer he brought home had a bullet in the neck. I always asked him. I’m like why do you shoot them in the neck. He was like because they don’t go anywhere.
I like that little "pocket" just above the elbow.
Deer can still run about 20-30 yards after a heart shot, it’s almost never instant even with a 180 grain 30-06.
Head Shot 360 no scope is the only way.
Nah front shoulders the best which is double lung but imo the front shoulders don’t have enough meat to worry about
Every animal I’ve ever shot was in the neck and none of them have taken a step, some were with a 22-250 on mule deer
No one ever gives the texas heart shot any love.
The buck on my pfp is my first buck i hit dubble lungs and it ran 100 yrds some how and now i have a name tag under saying super buck 😂😂😂
Heart shot often goes farther than a double lung especially on a big buck during the rut
Hit mine double lung and heart and he ran 15 yards from 186 yards with a 7mag
Never take a neck shot or a head shot with archery, firearms are a different story.
Double lung heart shot with a 20 gage and my buck crossed a 25 foot ravine and died it was hard to drag him out lol😂
As German Hunter I can say the head and the neck are not a point to aim for in Germany we go for Lungs and heart
After chatting with aloy of hunters frim over seas , point blank what what consider acceptable shooting and what most hunters in the US consider acceptable shooting are two completely different things. Being able to take a head shot on deer sized game at the average distances you see most shoot deer in the us is just expected. Same with knowing the anatomy of a animal....vs the us where its alot of big middle and behind the shoulder stuff
I once heard a story about my dad and his grandfather were hunting and his grandfather hit the dear dead center through the heart my dad said that’s he’s never seen someone else do it
Lung/heart area with an SKS with Winchester Silvertips was last one my stepfather and I took before he passed away, was the mixed gender part of the season, he saw a good sized doe and we took her with a heart/lung area shot. She dropped right then and there and went nowhere.
Lungs are best, for bow anyways, ive seen deer run 50 yards with a heart shot and ive never had a deer run more than 30 with a double lung
Yup, go for the top of the heart so you get some lung too, the won’t make it 20ft before dropping
I find it so funny that i get these hunting reels juse cause im playing the hunter call of the wild :D
But these tips are still applicable :D
@@TheAverageDeerHunter oh yeah :D
The best spot is the high shoulder
My wifes deer this year got double lung and heart. Ran like 20 yards and did a front flip
Arrows? Nah, I hunt with a Javelin...
...in top attack mode.
Jokes on you because I never see any deer with antlers.
Double lung shot>heart shot
You forgot one the lung and heart shot
Did you not watch the video
@@VoidSenpaii94bro did not watch the video
@@VoidSenpaii94I think he is talking about both at once
@@AnsonFranklinif you hit the heart, you're probably gonna hit the lungs lol
If you get caught shooting a deer in the head in Norway, you risk going to jail or a hefty fine
Screw Norway.
No. Top of the shoulder-blade's is No. 1. If you can penetrate, you hit a nerve-cluster that drops him instantly.
Headshots are unethical in Europe too, for boars so-so, but in case of deer especially with trophy its a cardinal sin. Here the most common mounts are skull mounts anyways.
Center of the shoulder works to makes them drop I’ve seen it for myself
Blew the bottom of the heart off of my biggest buck with .50 round ball from 20 yards he went another 20 yards and laid down dead dad was a neck shooter with his 7400 in 3006 he didn't track much.
My dad‘s deer ran 150 yards after he heart shot it The hole in its heart was as big as his thumb.
Every heart shot I've made was also the furthest to go get.
in sweden where i live its like an unwhritten rule that you aim for the shoulder blade, with 2 broken blades they are not going far and you also have the lungs behind them
To be ethical you need to target the lungs and heart. This means the animal is broadside. Targeting other areas can easily leave a wounded animal that gets away and suffers.
While there are a very few exceptions a hunter pretty much needs to stick to this unless they have gained much experience and knowledge to adjust to those rare exceptions.
Why does hitting the head effect the antlers? Its not as if youre blowing them apart.
If I’m hunting for food I don’t give a crap about antlers. If your hunting for a trophy start with the US Congress!
I tried that once with a 30/30 at 20 yards while it was looking my way .
The first one dropped it then it stood back up idled . I hit it a second time , down it went . It stood back up so the third round I put through the ears and that did the job .
I'm from Northern Ireland my grandfather said headshots only
Last year I got a double lung and heart shot with one well placed arrow!
Head is better then heart. Neck is better then lung
With a 350 legend ive seen a deer just fall over instantly with a double lung
Beck shots are cool
I hit a double Lung and it ran 350 yards lol.
Do not take head shots ❌ below the shoulder into the heart ✅
Shoulder?
heart is the worst cause its the tastiest part of the deer
Never take head shots.
Double knecks when i was like 13 with my old muzzle loader back before we had shotgun primers
The double lung is much quicker than a heart shot. A deer and go much further on a busted heart than a double lung.
What about spine I’ve seen a few where they hit the spine right below his neck and it drops instantly
Went out hunting for the first time last rifle season and double lunged my first buck
No, don't hit head, in Europe we say DON'T hit the head
Honestly, Ive lived by the head and neck rule and it has worked wonders the past few years.
Head for doe
Neck for buck
Both are quick and efficient kills whilst preserving to most meat possible and preserving any racks.
I live in Pennsylvania so skull mounts are the most common anyway unless the deer is a slammer.
But by the heart is bone and you would need a very powerful gun.
A couple of steps on a heart shot? I've had em go over 100 yards running flat out.
I shot my first buck the other day in the heart and it ran 100 yards I was in shock
My deer was heart shot still went 50 yards however every deer from that field laid in that exact spot
Tbh i find any bit on the frount sholder they drop and don't move 7.08 bullet
Or right behind the ear about 2 inches
Sorry. #1 is the double lung shot because you need the heart to keep pumping to get the blood out of the meat.
Had a heart shot, it was mush when gutted the deer, that deer ran 50yds maybe more.
Aim small, miss small❤
The No.1 worst place to hit one is when you're going 60, at night, on a country highway during a new moon in the rain. 0/10 experience. Busted my radiator, hood, fender and both headlights but took out 3 at once.
Kneck is generally good but ive seen a deer that had a solid kneck shot and it lived and healed. Not sure how much longer till the next guy got him but the scar tissue was clear as day
#1 ....f250 at 75,mph
I got a double lung heart shot, and my dear somehow went 30 yards
They still go after a heart shot. Especially with a bow. I got the top of the heart a bottom of both lungs this past season an my buck prolly went about 30 yards or so. I cut once’s heart pretty much right in half a few yrs ago an he still went 50 yards or better.
I had double lungs ran about 90 yards or so
My dad always hits double long heart
Neck and head are low percentage shots..it’s a fact..you can shoot the femoral artery in the back leg too..doesn’t make it a good shot
The heart tastes good though
I've seen deer live a while on heart shots.
Where's the shoulder shot. You break both shoulders and you get the double lung.
The x for the heart was a bit off.
We not finna talk bout dem vertebrae shots 💀
When bow hunting I'll always say go for the heart or lungs but with a rifle if it's a doe or something I know I won't want mounted the neck shot never fails but if I think I'll want it mounted I'll just hit the shoulder my 270 makes it impossible for me to mount my deer with a neck shit
You forgot to mention the spinal cord
What about double lung and heart