Training AI takes heavy toll on Kenyans working for $2 an hour | 60 Minutes
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- Digital workers in Kenya had to sift through horrific online content to train AI, but say they were underpaid, overworked, and got inadequate mental health support. So they’re fighting back.
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Not the interviewer acting shocked when the girl said modern day slavery lol
That's the woke brain worms for ya
🧠🪱. These people choose these jobs. They're not locked into the compound. However, they are being exploited just like so many other people around the world
Whoa, what?? Whoa! I did NOT expect that! WOW!! W O W!!! !!!
@@Haveuseenmyjetpack Leslie has become trite and tiresome.
we all are shocked at this disgusting denigration of the human spirit. im grateful she is doing international journalism on this while you and i are just commenters on youtube.
I was like lady gtf off my screen.
These are the kinda stories that need to be told on a platform that so many average Americans watch. Really important work.
but what's the point? Nothing ever changes. Time and time again has demonstrated this for the past many decades.
@savannahthomas322 You are right... but Americans need to care.
They don’t care!!!! They kidnapped us and brought us here….had us working for free.. for centuries.
Not going to happen because many companies like the ones in the video own huge portions of news media: For example Amazon owns the Washington Post.
@@jaymelee23 I hope Americans who see this type of content realize how much they're being manipulated into hating people like those in this video who are victims of the capitalists from our country. I hope at some point we begin to see, in these people who are so grossly exploited for our benefit, ourselves. Just like us, they deserve fair wages, respect, and safe working environments.
This was extremely eye opening. I cannot imagine looking at violent and inappropriate content 8hrs every day. Absolutely horrific. Thank you for reporting on this. Wow.
Not like they have to do this lol
@tear728 well sometimes people have to do things to provide for their families. I get your point, but I also understand their desperation.
ugh I didn't even think about that aspect of the work.
@@tear728 yeah they have a choice, do the job or become homeless
@@tear728whats their alternative?
This is the kind of news that should be shown on all major news channels
The moral of the story once again is that the people are their own worst enemy, as the local contractors are the ones actually exploiting the data workers.
When OpenAI is paying a wage of 12.50 an hour, but then the intermediary is taking an 85% cut, why are we not talking about the intermediary, the contracting firm. They should be paying Kenyans more.
and if you go to their website they put so much focus on bringing the less fortunate oppurtunity and connecting the world of tech. more like exploiting people in a 3rd world country.
They did talk about the intermediaries, these are also American firms such as Sama (Samasource). They showed the paperwork. At the same time, corporations can hold their suppliers accountable.
crazy, i make 1.66 usd per hour in brazil and nobody is complaining
I'm more worrieed about what they are training the AI to do. No one should have to do this job for any amount of pay.
The more things change, the more they stay the same with exploiting Africa yet again 😢
These people show Kenya in a very dignified light.
God Bless them .
There's a very recent documentary about university educated people in Kenya writing college essays for students in the Global North. 37 million students are estimated to have paid for these services. The doc is called "Shadow Scholars". Really eye-opening. If only there were more job opportunities open to these super talented and intelligent young Kenyans!
Because Kenya and Kenyans ARE dignified!
Disagree. It makes Kenyans look self pitying, gullible, and hungry for a big lawsuit payout.
What do you mean they show them in a dignified light? They are dignified people. Maybe you could have worded a little differently. I’m going to assume that you are surprised that Africans are educated in dignify or is it just that they manipulated this particular News piece to look like that Please give us a little more credit than you give. It’s not the people that are good. Is that 60 minutes made them look good. 13:35
Ain't no dignity working for $2 😂
As a Ghanaian American I’m extremely proud of them for speaking up! I hope they win their lawsuit
Question fellow Ghanaian can U comment on the courage and bravery of Kenyans vis-à-vis our own Ghanaians ????
I pray that they win! Please!
No your still Ghanaian obviously
We should not even be paying nor hiring them in the first place. I hope the industry leaves after the entitled lawsuit.
@@notsocrates9529 🤣🤣they’re not going anywhere, they need them and some will accept the $2/hr.
Crazy how 10 years ago this work was $20/hr in Silicon Valley. I had a job just like this in college.
Average monthly income in Nairobi, Kenya for entry level is $400 USD on the high end. That's about $2.50 an hour. These people saying they want $30 USD/hr because that's what Americans make is ridiculous.
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah”these people”. Heck no. If SAMA is getting $10, why don’t think it’s fair for the worker to get $2?! That’s crazy.
Jobs in silicon valley pay more than the same job in rural Arkansas, you mad about that?
To clarify, pay hasn't really increased, I'm lucky to get paid well. The tech sector is extremely competitive, I mean, I'm competing with these guys. I'm lucky to live in the Bay Area, but he kinda shocked me when he said that work would be worth $30 an hour here when it definitely wouldn't. Super minor thing in the greater picture, but 12.50 is very fair, and $2 isn't. It's clearly the second company that's hurting their own community. Most online data work ove seen doesn't even pay federal minimum wage in america. Wealth inequality is becoming a global issue. I blame elon and the Walton family ect. They both have more than Jhon Rockefeller did, not combined, individually, adjusted for inflation. We never actually got rid of the robber barrons.
@@refinedrubies1267 They are asking for more money than what SAMA is getting because they think they should get American wages.
I've been watching 60 minutes for years but I never thought they'd touch on Kenya. Thanks guy's
The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
@@sonsflowerour people dont understand this...
They make 2 dollars an hour but have the skills to hack your bank account 😂 if they don't get paid they still will get paid
Oh so u know this is it right
@@PatrickMaina-u9lsay it again
As a kenyan this is sad, as a jobless guy too, I understand them, its hard to even feed your kids
that's why they should count themselves lucky ,the alternative is worse.most graduates i know engage in some sort of fraud to get by. including degrees in organic chemistry with honors.
I was born in Kenya. I can scarcely believe that we were shown a major thoroughfare in Nairobi. When I left in 1962, Nairobi was a clean modern city as good as any city in a developed country.
Why does the government allow this to happen? Kenyan government needs to make these companies pay fairly. this is not ok
Don't have kids and stay a bachelor to improve your financial health
It's obvious you've never worked under such conditions @@tomondiek2839
I am extremely proud of my Kenyan brothers and sisters. Very well informed, elaborate, educated and fully aware of their rights.
Lol are u stupid? Your people are training ro it's to make humans obsolete and making 2 an hr doing it
Your soon to be unemployed brothers and sisters?
We have been unemployed for decades, that wont be new@@JerodMiller4510
@@1212rusty You missed a big chunk of the story saying humans will continue to be needed because AI training never stops. These Kenyans are training AI to take YOUR job. You're calling others stupid?
why kenya though? do they want the ai to be dumb and slow?
Thank you 60 Minutes, for covering this topic.
Minus the Interviewer!!!!!!!!
Sifting through hours of pornography, violence, and the worst acts of humanity has to be the hardest job ever. This is something we have to address. Who is regulating this? We need to help the humans who are in the loop with therapy, breaks, and humanizing these types of jobs. I have so many questions about what is done about these unspeakable acts online. We need oversight and accountability.
The American president this "reporter" supported so much in the past, while bashing Trump, is the one turning a blind eye on all this. He is corrupt and she doesn't care. She is playing you Kenyans, she doesn't care for you. She cares for content, otherwise she would do a better job chasing this bad players in the West. She protects them. She is turning in Meta now because Zuckerberg came out exposing the deep state influence on the elections and American media
Better yet, give those jobs to life sentence criminals that enjoy that stuff. Save the normal stuff for people that are normal. Win win.
But fix the pay of course.
That's interesting haha
I would’ve tapped out after the first week (probably the first day of the content involved children)
Honestly sounds like when US outsourced to China for cheap labor in 90s. Also their English and use of grammar is better than some folks here in the US. PAY THESE PEOPLE.
It's all good until you realize the pay is meager and sometimes denied despite best efforts.
Honestly
English is widely spoken in Africa...In some if not most countries, it is the official language, It's usually a version of British English and due to the exposure of American culture, as they grow up, some gravitate towards a mix of both British and American English. So yeah, it can be better than some and most folks in the West and USA.
"PAY THESE PEOPLE" if they are willing to do so, the jobs would have stayed in the US -- and btw, every consumer would pay about 4x if not more in everything.
They pay Africans little and they're far better than most Europeans and Americans in terms of written English
I’m happy that our sister Narima does not let Barbara’s wow derail her very accurate point and analysis of this system!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
@@sonsflower that’s not the problem. There is no reason Google can’t pay a living wage.
@@Ad-Lo I didn’t say they can’t. I said that if they want a living wage they have to focus on growing their domestic companies. Because foreign companies specifically go to African countries to find cheap labor so they will never pay a living wage because if Kenyan won’t provide cheap labor another country will so they will just leave and go to another country that will give them what they want.
@Ad-Lo the reason is that billionaires gotta billionaire
@sonsflower so how do these people focus on growing domestic companies?
wow… lots of people who grew up on the internet are traumatized due to the things they’ve stumbled upon. and these people were paid $16 a day to obtain that same mental pain. the global economy is so skewed and vast, it’s hard to comprehend and be comfortable with.
You cannot unsee what you see or unhear what you hear.
Very true
You cannot unsee what you have seen nor unhear what you have heard❤
@@GNMi79they have a 70% unemployment rate dude
Thanks. Did you think of that yourself?
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This is the journalism we need. Excellent reporting.
She is a bad reporter and Trump exposed her. She never exposed the leader of the free world who is empowering all this: senile Joe. She in fact protected him. Now she is turning on Meta because Zuckerberg exposed the involvement of the state in controlling media and public opinion. She is the enemy. Wake up
Sadly it's NOT making a difference, bc here in our America, we tolerate abuse via these American companies abandoning us, We the People, by outsourcing n moving companies to another country. That is criminal. Nafta is a double edge sword & NOT meant to help employees ANYWHERE. Those companies should be boycott n shown that principle stands. "Sra Isa"
lol she will be fired lol
Thank you to 60 Minutes for bringing this important issue to light. It’s time for our Kenyan brothers and sisters to lead the charge in raising awareness and preventing exploitation from spreading across Africa. Kenya, with its vibrant talent, dynamic youth, and strong work ethic, is already paving the way. Africa has the potential to be the global workforce of the future, and its people deserve to be treated with the same respect and fairness as workers in the Western world. As birth rates decline in the West, the future of talent will increasingly come from the Global South, with countries as Nigeria Ghana, South Africa and Kenya at the forefront.
I don't think it's that simple. If the wage goes up, people in Western countries will start do it, and many of them will do it with more regulations and less fraud. The low wage of this job is one of the reasons these people even have this opportunity.
I had no idea workers shield us from the harsh realities of human cruelty online to protect our mental health, all while grappling with their painful truths. Many employers and their HR teams don’t prioritize the well-being of their employees. A few days ago, I deleted the Amazon shopping app from my phone, feeling that corporate greed and a lack of decency were out of hand. And as someone who suffers from mental fragility, I find it difficult to fathom the challenges these workers face. The struggles people endure for the sake of others are mind-blowing.
That's mental trauma and torture. This isn't even a job.
@@gummy5862you have to watch the whole video to understand what the commenter is talking about. These employees have to watch disgusting video material everyday for 8 hours. They end up mentally damaged.
I'm glad these people are speaking up. This is beyond terrible!
From $12/hr down to $2/hr…That’s crazy.
Woe to you Sama 💔
Sams pockets $10/hr per employee smh
Who owns Sama?
Wow this is gross!
@@abbysotomi2457it's the company that employs them as a sub-contractor for OpenAI.
@@abbysotomi2457 Leila Janah. She died in 2020 at age 37 from a rare cancer.
It’s hurts me the way Companies use the most vulnerable 🙏😢
Thank you 60 minutes for such a detailed, well researched and honest piece of work.
There should be more awareness around such issues.
This non sense has to end.
It ends when ppl CHOOSE to not take these jobs for little pay. Tired of the complaints as if they're forced to work the jobs.
@@TV-wy1py but then they will find another region desperate for jobs. You will actually have to coordinated a GLOBAL boycott which is no where near easy. Why not go after the company that are intentionally doing this with unfair intentions than to blame the employees with good intentions?
@@TV-wy1py With an unemployment rate of 67% (among young people), how is it responsible to turn down any paying job?
@@angelalita77the same is done in eastern Europe and also the US. Using anyone for that pay, especially for work that is affecting them so negatively should be illegal. I commend these Kenyans for speaking up. Maybe a lawsuit will change some laws for all workers not just in Kenya.
The average annual salary is $2.1k, which is 40 times less than in America. The minimum wage in the States is $7.50, so if they're earning a third of what an American does while living in a much more expensive country, they must be doing something wrong with their savings or saving too much. This isn't about race, but they're trying to act like victims. One of the guys also mentioned that he lost his desire for sexual things, but so what? That's not the company's problem-it's his.
I am a Kenyan online worker who have worked for these AI tech companies as well.
It's very true that these tech companies exploit us mercilessly.
You do a job, a fellow American is paid 39-50 dollars an hour, but since you are a Kenyan, you are paid merely 5 dollars an hour less tax.
But worse than that is that, many are the times your account gets banned a day or 2 before payday, so you end up loosing all your earnings.
It's one thing for western countries to talk of human rights, it's a totally different thing when it comes to them practicing the same, more so towards Africans.
It's like we're less humans 😭😭😭😭
This is all true. It is normally disheartening but life's responsibilities keeps you there
Americans making 50/hr are also complaining about being exploited and not considered human. This is how work works. When pay is higher, prices increase, creating a zero-sum. This affects people outside of AI the most, since their pay is not increasing. It increases inequality.
Local businesses cannot compete for employees so they close. In extreme cases, people end up spending all their time prepping of AI interviews and don’t even apply at local companies.
@@theBear89451 but Africans should not always be the ones paying the price
It's supposed to be that way. The cost of living is EXTREMELY different and a US high school education is worth more than an undergraduate degree from a Kenyan university. Also, it's an American company. It should show favoritism to people in its home country.
$39 an hour in the USA for this type of work? Not a chance. It will be paid per task and you will have trouble getting $5 an hour speed. Nobody will hire this king of work per hour in the USA. $39 an hour is a dream.
This is well researched and I'm thankful for this video.
Did you see how the #60minutes lady reacted when the other lady said that the president would create jobs? 😂
@@Kennevruz The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
@@sonsflower... Your comment is everywhere...enough! 🤐
@@artisthusnatalal3099😂😂😂😂amechizi huyu
@sonsflower or take a book out or thomas Sankara ibrahim traore mali Niger 🇳🇪 but he can flight to London UK so often
Sue them. All of them. They abused them. Period.
Thank you for highlighting this . Prayers to my people 🇰🇪 from the US. This is heartbreaking
The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
@ agreed
@@sonsflowerthe problem is not having our own microsoft the problem is that the government is greedy they don't care about us as long as there pockets are full
You should go back to them if you're so "concerned". Because as an American, we care about our people here. Go do the same over there with yours
@ troll be quite but since you came here for some smoke and entertainment I’ll give it to you. By you saying that it tells me a lot . First you don’t know what I have or have not done for my pple . Second I can tell you are a troll because you said America takes care of its people and is laughable. Explain to me how they do! I’ll wait. And I’m concerned about ANYONE that is being done wrong or exploited regardless of where they live or who they are !
Registered nurses get pizza after they work 16 hours saving lives and CEOs get 32 million and they can’t even calculate the burn rate of PPE required during a pandemic even though they had five years to prepare for it and nurses ended up wearing garbage bags
profit comes from exploitation
And I'm sure they have lots of advocates fighting for them. Unlike those being addressed in the video. I get the point, however.
The timeless "Pizza Party" 🍕 Like we are all kids. It is insulting.
@@moisedameyCJ There really are not advocates for nurses. Perhaps more so in states with nursing unions. Otherwise nurses are up against the same things all other employees are dealing with corps.
In addition, with nursing the labor laws are looser than other jobs. There are no mandates that a nurse has to get a meal break or even a break to use the restroom during the 12-14hr shift. The reason there are not strict laws for this like other occupations, is it was meant to ensure during a crisis or short term emergency the nurses can work through. However corporate took advantage and they do this ALL the time routinely, not just during emergencies like hurricanes or blizzards to make more money.
There are no staffing to patient ratios either....so if the patients pile up you have to take care of them, while also worrying that if you make any mistakes your nursing license will be at risk even though the understaffing is usually due to corporate greed. These corps will take advantage of anyone anywhere in the world, and it is so sad workers have little leverage or tools to counteract.
@@striver1987I used to work for a nonprofit as a front desk clerk in a low income SRO and when the janitors tried to form a union the CEO flew in from Denver ordered pizza 🍕 and told them if they unionized that they would fire them and just outsource the work to undocumented Spanish speaking people. I was told none of the janitors touched the pizza 😂😂
Power to these workers! What they’ve gone through is heartbreaking
It really is. Hearing their stories about being traumatized by their work, its just horrible that they went through that and will likely have those images in their head forever. So many ppl saying they can just quit but these ppl have families that rely on them.
If this is why we have AI, I don’t want AI. At all.
AI is like gunpowder, fighter jets, and nuclear weapons. It doesn't matter what you think about it, but it sure as hell matters who develops and masters it first.
@@Sunopeek What matters is what we do about it, whether we’ll stop this racist tech madness or allow it to develop unregulated.
AI will become central to your job too, if you have one.
This, the undocumented adverse effects it could have on our planet, the growing over-reliance on it, the blatant offense of it towards academic integrity, or just integrity of anything at all, is why I refuse to touch it. I hate now that generative AI has now taken over what peoeple think of "AI", when it used to be a tool people programmed themselves for themselves.
doesnt matter ai wants you to
Kenyans, globally recognized as some of the most well-educated individuals, deserve remuneration that is commensurate with the value and quality of their work.
But the country's HDI?
If they raise salaries them it would not be cost effective for those companies to be there
In 2022, Kenya's Human Development Index (HDI) score was **0.601**, indicating a medium.
Kenya is extremely corrupt 😢
Lmao globally recognized among who😂 what are you smoking
I spent 6 months in Kenya. They are the loveliest people on the planet. This is so unfair. Makes me sick to see them treated like this
Have you seen their crime rate?
@@guayabito6946He spent 6 months there, he probably knows the place better than you
@@guayabito6946,my country Kenya is very safe , don't look on the negative aspect.
@@planetI911absolutely,Kenya is safe.
@@guayabito6946 the crime rate is nowhere near New York
So the meta's rate is 12 dollars, but the outsourcing company pays 2 dollars. What kind of greed is that? Make it even 5 dollars.
U know? Like from 12 to 2 USD? Where does the rest go to? Thieves
@Iblongtohim it's the middleman. The Kenyan company.
I'm glad that 60 Minutes is giving a voice to these people so we can be educated.
2 dollars is too much. Most pay 1.3 dollars per hour with no further benefits.
@zoniblack just because some do it doesn't mean it's right! It's exploitation, regardless. Tne point is to advocate for fair living wages & conducive/supportive working environments 🤦🏾♀️
You can hear and see their pain
Thank you guys for sharing! So strong of you to enlighten despite your trauma! You matter! Your voices matter! It’s insane- I believe the BBC covered this a couple years ago as well
I know of a couple here in Oklahoma whose job it is to watch violent videos, sexually inappropriate videos and harming videos in order to get them removed off of a social media platforms, they are in their 20s. I can’t imagine the psychological trauma they’re going to have once they realize what they have been exposed to for over a year now- the long-term mental health crisis isa very serious issue for these workers that are required to watch such horrific things
We’ll soon, AI will do it for them..
I need those jobs I'm in Kenya, how do i apply?😊
A friend from Romania did it too, but she couldn't do it for long. It was basically for Google / TH-cam, but the wages were horrible considering through how much nasty content she had to go every day for hours. They often search for people who can speak 3+ languages, but pay absolut minimum wages. A fair salary and psychological support should be the bare minimum.
How can I apply for that job from Africa.
There was a group for that in Kenya too. It was shut down in 2023.
I like how she said, “…vulnerable for now.” The tides will turn! 💪🏾
Kenyas will alwaye be strong !
This is not a Hollywood movie. Tides rarely turn.
delulu
I wouldn't hold my breath .
True
Thanks for covering this
I find this so disturbing 😢 exposing them to enormous amounts of traumatic content with no adequate mental health services available is unacceptable! Mental health is valuable and they deserve trauma informed treatment. The world constantly finds a way to exploit Africa, and it’s truly a shame 😔
The US is using Kenyans as lab rats.
The guy who had to look at the worst of the worst content 40 hours a week reminds me of that woman who had to catalogue the evidence in the toy box killer case. She worked diligently because someone had to do it, and then she killed herself. Now imagine having to do it for case after case after case I can’t imagine the world he has had to catalogue.
Cops have to deal with the most horrific crimes scenes, accidents and suicides in person! Actually smell the scene, physically move and photograph bodies, gather the remains. Sure you can go talk to somebody, who says “it’s normal to feel disturbed by it” but that doesn’t change anything. It has to be done, so they do it.
Haven’t seen a single 60 minutes episode about it…….
For a man to emphatically say he “hates s3x !!!“ is almost unheard of. This definitely has to be a brutally horrific job!
Trust me it’s not that bad, they are just looking to cash out from Meta. Why is he still working there if it’s that bad?
@@zanod2514 how many people do you think are stuck at horrible jobs or jobs they hate because it's the only option or it's the "best option" available?
@zanod2514 if you’re genuinely asking this you need to go back and rewatch the video because your comprehension, critical thinking, and empathy are severely lacking.
@@zanod2514 The next time you think or talk about how much you hate your boss or manager or business owner, I hope you remember your comment here. But you won't.
@@zanod2514He may know he’ll be ok but that doesn’t mean he has to pick himself by his bootstraps he most definitely deserves compensation for the effects of this job that should be done by groups of diverse people. AI can’t be biased. It can’t be used to exploit ppl, or the machines win. This is a fight and test of our humanity right now.
These same AI will be used against them and their own people. Mark my words.
THIS!
unfortunately, it already is.
It has already happened.
Conspiracy theorist.
Kenya should be like China. Produce instead of being a product. You are trying to reach the top before getting out of the mud.
Thank you, thank you so much for this interview!! 🙌🏾 VERY telling!
I genuinely had no idea this was a thing; pleasantly surprised 60 minutes , good job 👍
I love how all the serious and important questions are being asked on this video..justice will suffice
The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
@@sonsflowerYour right! A business will always take advantages if given the opportunity. It's up to the government to protect its people.
@@sonsflower maybe they should first think about making their own food before looking for highly skilled jobs?
@ either way they need to be self sufficient and create their own businesses even if they start with food.
The average annual salary is $2.1k, which is 40 times less than in America. The minimum wage in the States is $7.50, so if they're earning a third of what an American does while living in a much more expensive country, they must be doing something wrong with their savings or saving too much. This isn't about race, but they're trying to act like victims. One of the guys also mentioned that he lost his desire for sexual things, but so what? That's not the company's problem-it's his.
Omg am crying,may God have mercy on these people. May you get a better job and life.
Me too😢 This is terrible. Forcing people to watch despicable acts in the name of training ai😡
Wonderful journalism and reporting on a serious matter. I hope these workers see changes after this! Thank you 60mins❤
People of Kenya 🇰🇪 I thank you for your service and hard work and truly saddened for all that you had to endure and suffered through in the process. this type exploitation is beyond disgusting it is a desecration to one’s heart 💔 and soul. I hope in time you can find the justice✊🏾 and peace you so well deserve 🙏🏾
We may never get that justice because we've leaders who are puppets of the West.
Preach!!
No, I don't thank them for this. They're wage slaves. AI is a danger.
It is sad to watch. Slavery. Praying for you.
The unemployment is the problem. There's tenfold more graduates and skilled labour than job opportunities available, the government too isn't helping much. People would settle for any job to at least fend for themselves and families. This is a population with over 60% being under 35yrs. Having gone through this system I can attest it ain't easy
These guys are heroes. I hope they make a good living in the near future.
These ungrateful people will complain no matter how much they get paid.
What?
You are evil !
AI will take their jobs too as it improves.
They are being abused! What are you talking about heroes? 😡
I trained AI in America for $25/hr. It was for a legal company. They hired law grads and attorneys. $25/hr
That was how much I got in hazard pay working at a grocery store in 2020. I have no education just a lot of experience in food processing / sanitation work. These wages are whack. I wouldn't be complaining if those $25 hadn't become worthless from inflation afterwards. What's the point if we all get $25?
Even that's far too low
Why would a legal company would want ai? Those study cases or something?
Cool story. What about the Kenyan people here?
That sucks
I live in Sweden and I live paycheck to paycheck 😢😢😢 my money only covers rent and food 😢😢
Thank you for informing the public.
we've been calling this out for 8 years. I do hope this sinks in.
As a kenyan who used to work to train AI I can a firm what they say is true
Kenyans seem to be very smart educated people in order to do this work. Bring them over here to America!
Which site is this?
@@lindatonui What site did you get your job??
They will still migrate to other countries and you will still go to saudarabia
Me too! I’ve been working AI for years these big companies exploit humans! Make the rich richer for cheap!
Im glad these people are speaking up......❤
Francis Atwoli anafanya kazi gani? Instead of fighting for workers rights he's always out there politicking. SHENZ!!!
You need to understand that COTU only fights for unionized workers alone
Unangojea hiyo fossil ifanye chochote
This is not within his scoop of work.
Huyo ni nuguuuu tuu
SHENZI!!!😂
I hope that nobody will squash their efforts as they seek justice. They have done an incredible job
Thank GOD for 60 Minutes!
The efforts are already squashed.
Kumbe AI CANT think on its own and needs human input at such A HIGH LEVEL-its not even Intelligence then-just copy and paste
What justice? They're paid.
@@Chicago48 The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
In Jamaica, there are several new hotels being built. Local Jamaicans are employed through contracts, some three and six months. The jobs don’t pay well, they work ten, twelve hours per day with no overtime, and workers complain of missing amounts when they get paid. The groundbreaking and opening of a new hotel is always fanfare for Jamaican politicians who see this as a sign of progress.
I am Jamaican, and I know the plight...Jamaican government has given in to no unions for hotel workers which was a major push by Butch Stewart and the ISSA family, and that has caused the problem... it won't change until you have a gov that support the people...
Who owns the hotels?
@ A few are owned by wealthy Jamaican families like the Issas and the Stewarts. The majority of them have foreign ownership-The U.S. and Europe, in fact so many are operated by Spanish companies that ten years ago it was called “the Spanish invasion”
@@gbb82 Ok. I was thinking workers and citizens form associations/unions and drive out politicians who allow this concentration of wealth and exportation of wealth to happen. No workers, no hotels. Mind you I don't know anything about Jamaican law. In the United States we have labor unions and social activists who protest those type activities.
@@herbertscott9575 Oh no, labor unions do not exist in the hotel industry here, the owners would not work with that.
I love my Kenyan people. They’re not afraid to speak up for themselves
This is worth the reporting on! ❤❤❤❤❤
9:30 "bedroom fireworks"!!! I love it 😂😂😂
I laughed then felt sorry for him. Truly sad.
Unfortunately it doesn't sound like too many fireworks are going off in his house anymore.
It was truly sad but you really gotta love his way words
Thanks 60mins for highlighting this exploitation!
They can quit if they do not like it. They are not slaves
@@guayabito6946wisdom 👀
Thier corrupt government is worse 😂 jajajajajaja kenya is a extremely corrupt country
It's not slavery. Stop being hyperbolic.
We should thank them for reveling how bankrupt our Kenyan system is …If we don’t have digital labor laws as the activist puts ..then how come the AI companies are operating in Kenya?…Under which law are they using as a measure to pay the AI employees…?
This just shows how the government that should defend its citizens is led by empty heads only concerned about greed n corruption!
Very happy to see you shed light on this . Good for 60 minutes this needs to be on the for front of everybody’s radar. Shame on these big Tech companies tech companies this is egregious.
Aww this is heartbreaking. I'm glad they are speaking up. I hope people share this and spread awareness of it
Crazy how the unemployment in Kenya has always been 67% to 70% since 1963.
yes i know its actually higher now more like 80%
@@tomondiek2839 It is a lie, you dont know what 80% is. Haiti rate last year was 14%
I think 80% would be underemployment
So basically since independence....sad
subsistence farming has sustained the 'unemployed' for generations. Now modernisation has encroached on that way of life creating dependancy on aid.
thank you guys for coming out to share the truth ,
😂😂😂😂😂
Kenya has one of the most vibrant and best brains in the planet. Justice to Kenya! I stand with you
I appreciate that this is being covered. This is unacceptable.
As long as Kenya has no laws protecting its Citizens from this kind …it will always be acceptable !
@@jacksonmichael5603 The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
Of course this is acceptable. Workers willingly accepted to work at an agreed-upon rate.
Outrageous
this is happening in the united states happening to kenyans, other foreigners and US CITIZENS being payed under minimum wage by a company called echo labs. Please spread the word.
I feel for my fellow Kenyans. Why can't these companies just pay fair wages? human greed will destroy this earth.
If our government cared, we would have had strong policies to protect the citizens. The problems begins with us!
It's corporate greed.
The just move to Rwanda the avarages pay for Kenya is what the alternate is to work in middle East manual jobs China was known for cheap labour now...
The ldea is to work through your challenges. Being jobless nation is worse
@@Donmac1111 if they have to pay them more they would stay in the US and give jobs to Americans. These are companies, not charities.
@safarispirit excellent commen 👍 Kenya is a extremely corrupt country 😢
$2.00 gross per hour is pathetic, considering the KE taxation system and the cost of living currently. What's worse is the retrogressive psychological effects of these "digital tasks". These organizations are exploitative. Something has to be done. Thank you for making your voices heard.
@@vickyfidash Look up "average salary in Kenya" them look up "Kenya unemployment rate"
They know what they’re doing.
This is horrible psychological and spiritual trauma. These companies should be ashamed of themselves. If you are doing this kind of work, get out now!
The faces of AI. AI language models are being trained by employees being paid $2.00 per hour
I've heard similar jobs in the US are paying about the same for labeling for AI.
That’s great! More jobs for more people!
@@slowanddeliberate6893
Fake news
@@slowanddeliberate6893I’m in a similar position that pays between $20-30 an hour. It does involve more complex processes, though.
how is that different from working in mines for same 2$ or making t-shirts for Adidas or footwear for Nike? why even raise the topic of AI if it's the same in all other existing areas?
As a kenyan i can relate and they still want to Tax the $2 you are earning.
The problem is that the Kenyan government needs to stop increasing foreign investment and instead invest in domestic Kenyan companies. You guys need your own Facebook and Microsoft if you want jobs.
@@sonsflower they wont, they will continue extending the foreign investments.
The leadership in Kenya is ridiculous
The average annual salary is $2.1k, which is 40 times less than in America. The minimum wage in the States is $7.50, so if they're earning a third of what an American does while living in a much more expensive country, they must be doing something wrong with their savings or saving too much. This isn't about race, but they're trying to act like victims. One of the guys also mentioned that he lost his desire for sexual things, but so what? That's not the company's problem-it's his.
@@celsyctoy9148
two dollars per hour in kenya is a high sallary. they have a very good live there.
they should be ashamed and thankfull for that good job they have.
@@sonsflower 😂😂😂😂😂 Space X too!
Thank you 60 minutes for the exposee. We are really taken for granted
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE 60 Minutes! Your content is absolutely stellar - thank you so much for having your content here on TH-cam! 💖💯
These companies know about these effects because, before it was outsourced, this work used to be performed by their own workers and the complaints were exactly the same.
This needs to be shared everywhere, make the ones in charge who made this decision be known untill these people are paid properly
Nerima gagged the journalist with that modern slavery comment. She did not stutter!🤣🤣 I stan a queen.
Confidently and eloquently! 💯💯
It was unnecessary to overblow the direness of the situation to that level, to point out the unfair business interaction. She should point out the conditions of her own corrupt government that led Africans to accept this terrible contract instead of blaming the white man. Pathetic
Call it as it is. Modern day slavery.
Gagged ? I will research your web history .
Right
Very well spoken young lady, pioneer and fighter for peoples right . Especially a Vanguard for those who have no voice. A true warrior. 😊
😂😂😂😂😂 what
Mutua is still busy sending Kenyan children to work menial jobs overseas but turns a blind eye to such disturbing working conditions created by these foriegn companies
Ata ndio tunatoka registration..hopeless situations we keep finding ourselves in
The government doesn't create jobs they create a conducive atmosphere for you to lnvest all those companies were started 6 by lndividuals stop complaining
@@pinchesmbuche4354 the government doesn’t create jobs. It supports businesses that create jobs. It is better for the government to support domestic businesses in Kenya than foreign ones who will pay low wages.
@@sonsflower you are not forced just like kenya doing domestic work on thier own in Saudi like slaves
@@pinchesmbuche4354 I don’t think you understand what I mean by domestic. I mean supporting the individual that you mention that start businesses, but only Kenyan individuals. The government should support Kenyan entrepreneurs not foreign ones.
This is so heartbreaking. They just can’t unsee the images. The images will be in their minds forever
Not necessary in the name of JESUS
I cried while watching this. Absolutely sad.
Smaller people like you and me,
Will be builders for eternity,
Each is given a bag of tools,
Shapeless masses…..
And the Book of Rules
-The Heptones
They have moved to neighbouring country the same people will be jobless more pain they will go to saudarabia which is worse
@@theajayieffect You did not cry when you heard they have a 70% unemployment?
Wait until you find out how extremely corrupt thier government is lmao 🤣
HORRIBLE
I 🙏🏼 that everything that has been done in the dark,be commanded to come to the light IJN 🙏🏼
As a Kenyan freelancer who do such gigs for American compnies. Yes, these are sweatshops! They come to Kenya specifically because we are well trained and qualified and they will pay less than $7 an hour !!!!!!! Because they know unemployment is high and people will just take it to make a few coins than none. I saw US citizens reject remote work because they paid $15|hr but these companies will advertise the same job at $4\hr because its Africa! Note: life in Africa is not cheap like most of people are assuming. 3rd world does not equate to cheaper, it means people cannot afford a descent living, not cheaper life!! To make it worse, if you break a rule you are fined like $55 for a job you were being paid $4!
The online space needs a labor union like yesterday.
Ok. But guaranteed your greedy fat politicians are to blame! They sell their own people out so, they can get a big fat check! Stand up and fight maybe? You know like how black Americans had to fight in America for fairness and equal rights try doing it in your homeland! Either yalll flee or place blame elsewhere but the blame are the dirty crooked politicians throughout Africa
My boss usually says: _AI won't replace anyone, but it's people who uses AI that will replace those who don't_
I’m thankful for this video!!! Thank you!❤
This is great and urgent reporting.
The Activist…..🙌🏽🙌🏽. Very informed lady and the best person to drive that production!!
They should also monetize TikTok in Kenya and whole of Africa...This individuals are full of Content.
There's a difference between content and value.
We don’t even get it, omg. This is sad
I am still surprised by how many people in the comments section are expressing shock at how smart and well-spoken Kenyans are!
They don't believe in trash cans. All that trash in the streets is horrendous.
@@Just-HumanI'm mean that's no difference than Mississippi or Alabama
Vlad.....it's different, not difference.
What most westerners know about the continent of Africa, let alone Kenya, you could put on the head of a pin. How many stories from Kenya are covered on the daily news, zero.
Mostly Americans they don’t even know what Kenya 🇰🇪 is
Excellent, as always. Thank you.
Really love how the lady who is a lawyer is able to express, articulate and speak with Confidence on the matter.
All of them are expressing themselves well... You're just focusing on the lady Mr. Puffy
@Izzoh22 She is a lawyer, and she is one of the few people who came out boldly and supported them, I am making reference to her because of her courage. Is not that the others are not doing their best, but also did well.
Mr. Puffy, think.
Meta agreed to pay $12.50/hr. Sama actually paid $2.00/hr. It is Sama who is keeping the $10.50. In other words, this is Sama doing this to Kenyans. Please direct your (understandable) anger in the correct direction.
Sama itself isn't even a Kenya company. Its the management from headquarters in California USA who decided $2 is okay. They know they can't get away with that pay in the USA so they go where Labour laws are poor and the youths are desperate
@@WANDA_customs Why does the employment contract specify $12.50, not $2.00? 🤔
If the big companies know the workers are being used they can pull out and say they don't want to work with 'abusers'
The tech giants could demand a minimum salary requirement for the contracted employees, regulate themselves
@@WANDA_customsthen as Americans we should see that they're brought up on exploitation charges and fined and jailed.
The major companies involved should take responsibility for directly hiring and fairly compensating their workers. It’s heartbreaking to see what’s happening in Kenya.
What responsibility besides increasing share holder value? These people are going to complain their way to no jobs. This is a Kenyan government needs to pass minimum wage laws problem, not a US business company problem.
Also...this AI training thing is a gig. By the time hope for change can be established, this fad will blow over. Literally a to b, these people are training their replacements that will work for 1/1000ththe wage/hour...for the cost of powering a lightbulb...you will get 10 circa-2022 Kenyan AI laborers. Wrong hill to die on, if sneaker making ever was the right one.
They do take responsibility….right up to that $12.50 an hour collected by the middleman which hires these actual workers at $2.00.
They feel that’s the sum total of their corporate responsibility.
There are a few, very few, that actually send their own people out to survey these workers as to their working conditions and pay. But most even contract out that work.
Hotel in NAIROBI $150 per night
They have no ethical responsibility. They are outsourcing activities. The people don't have to do the work if they don't want to.
@@KK-pm7ud yeah no, that’s not how labor laws work thankfully. You sound like you’d exploit people’s vulnerability.
Is everyone in this comment section missing the bigger picture? I don't understand why 60 Minutes is framing this narrative in such a way. They throw around emotionally charged terms like "slavery," but the reality is far more nuanced.
Earning $2 an hour is actually decent pay in Africa, especially in comparison to local minimum wages. Speaking as a Ghanaian who grew up in Ghana, unlike many others discussing African issues from abroad, I can provide a more grounded perspective. These workers are making $320 a month in a country where the minimum wage is only $90
From what I know, most people there aren't complaining. They’re grateful for the opportunity. If someone doesn’t like a job, the logical step is to seek a better one rather than simply venting frustrations.
As for the argument that they should be paid like American workers, that’s not a realistic expectation. Global wages are relative to local economies. Expecting companies like Amazon to pay the same wages worldwide ignores the economic differences between countries. This lawsuit is unlikely to succeed unless there are significant changes to the local economy.
I think what everyone is saying is it’s disgusting that open AI is paying $12 an hour but only paying the workers $2 an hour…
Everything is unfair and someone is always to blame. The ironic thing is that most of the people complaining in the comments about how unfair this is certainly aren't willing to pay $5 or $10 a month for Facebook to raise wages, and no one here in the comments is going to give up their Facebook in protest.
These technology corporations are not paying taxes all over the world ripping Kenyans and very intelligent people this is horrific absolutely putrid these companies need to be held accountable we the people must stand up
they are leave, what are you talking about??
please help spread the word there’s a company doing this right now not only to Kenyans but also US CITIZENS called echo labs. Paying people nothing for hours of work it’s extremely illegal especially for those employees living in the us.
Thank you for sharing/showing this.
So important. Thank you for posting this. Praying for peace for all the workers who see the things we do not. ..
Every bit of civility I see in ai and chat gpt searches moving forward, I'll be thinking of the labelers.
There needs a better solution though
@@woyblank751 agreed.
Amazing and eye-opening reporting. Thank you 60 minutes.