I have been working on this CRANE 3S DUAL GRIP for a couple of weeks, and it completely changes the way you work with you CRANE 3S See all the benefits in the video here. th-cam.com/video/T3Cf31ac_UA/w-d-xo.html
This video spoke to that wobble you mentioned. th-cam.com/video/rE6DDkB6lPw/w-d-xo.html . I am still looking for the best gimbal for the Sony 4k Handycam FDR-AX100.
There is no Max payload to be found, but it is strong enough to carry my S1H even thoug I can't ballance it 100%. I would guess that i can handle about 4kg.
@@PeterMakholm thank you for the reply. i just found out that zhiyun gimbal's motor is a bit "weak" compared to the other brand. im using a7iii with crane plus right now and even with my sony a6500 sometimes the motor drift on certain position/angle. anyway thanks again. i think i might get 3s for my next gimbal.
It is a tricky one. if you want to use the Weebill S, you need counter weights, so I might consider a slightly bigger gimbal. maby a crane 3 lab DJI ronin S. You can go for the Crane 3SE, then you can use your BMPCC4K fully rigged.
UPDATE: The Crane 3S gimbal in this video is a PRE PRODUCTION model and there fore it is not perfrming as 100%. I have now gotten a working sample the Crane 3s and the video with it will be out toonight.
Through my recent use of this.... Found that I had a flawless experience with underslung mode with short arm with my S1H and 8Sinn Cage (removed top handle) worked like a dream. Extended the arm with intent on adding payload and it began to wobble in underslung mode. Never got to add my accessories. I am gonna keep it though cause, it's just waaaaaay too much fun to use! Sux that it doesn't work exactly like it's supposed to...
Peter Makholm already did just the waiting game for it to come. Check out my latest video I did rollers with the weebill s going 65mph . I. Can imagine the power on this new gimbal
I heard there is a battery you can buy for the crane 3s that powers the camera & accessories. Do you know how long battery life would be for this. Let's say running a bmpcc4k camera and a monitor.
Hmm, its this or hope the Moza air x gets released, but it was announced late 2018 so there is no telling how long it will be :( 1kg lighter than this and the same payload.
Mr Makholm, can you please list out your camera cage and handle setup please. thank you in advance and also thanks for the honest info on the 3S. I may just get the crane 3 to use for motion time lapse primarily.
Θάνος Ανδρεάδης It is an firmware issue. We are in contact with Zhiyun and they just sent a firmware update. I’ll install it an get back with an updated video once it is working.
Thanks for this review and the follow-up video. Question - how much noise does your Crane 3S make? I recently got one and there is a constant whirring of gyros (I assume) in the horizontal piece where the batteries go, whenever the unit is powered on. I also hear the tilt axis motor distinctly. With the Crane 2, noise was almost imperceptible, so I can't tell if my 3S is defective or if it is normal for it to be noticeably noisier with the larger motors.
Hey. Tell me, did you like the Crane 3S stabilizer? When you used the Crane 3S stabilizer and the Blackmagic 6K video camera, the video picture was smooth, did not twitch? Do you like the operation of the Crane 3S with the Blackmagic 6K? I also ordered a Crane 3S stabilizer.
Peter Makholm ALL, finally, today I started the tested Blackmagic 6k with the Crane 3S stabilizer. MY ENRANCE IS NO LIMIT. LOW BOW OF THE CHINESE. The stabilization is divine. I compare with when I used the Crane 3 Lab, I spent so many nights, exhausted, could not get stabilization, which I just didn’t do. Even the heart 💓 beats with joy that with the new CRANE 3S stabilizer, I can get stabilization using the Blackmagic 6K camera 🙏🙏🙏😌😌😌Certainly this is the beginning, now I’ll try to hang something on the stabilizer, but I’m sure that everything super 👏 will be, as I was convinced of the enormous power of the motors. Crane 3S is a completely different stabilizer compared to Crane 3 Lab
Peter Makholm FRIEND, THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION. I DIDN'T FIND THE CRANE 3S INSTRUCTIONS for a description of the buttons that are located on the optional handle that attaches to the Crane 3S stabilizer. Tell me, you also did not find?
Great video! Question - How are you making sure you watch/Monitor your shots when performing low angle(cowboy shots) or other movements that arent so convential?
Dareck Maurice Hi. I use a monitor on the side. That works perfect for low shots. In my weebill S monitor video you can see how I use and mount it on the side. Works exactly the same for the crane 3S or lab.
dear Peter have you shot any footage with 3S, can you share it.. I would love to see just straight walk into some wall or similar no moving object. No IS on :)) thanks!
Yeah. I'll se if I can do a couople of shot of it and send it you way. But I really don't use it, because of the weight distribution makes it super fornt heavy.
I am new to motorized gimbals. Because of back issues, I am considering purchasing a gimbal for still-shots low to the ground; however, the gimbal appeared very unstable on your desktop. Would the Crane 3S or even the Crane 3 Lab be stable enough for still photography as slow shutter speeds (say 1/10th sec.)? BTW, I use a medium format camera-total payload about 7lbs. Thanks in advance
@@PeterMakholm You are correct, the weight would probably be an issue. I was considering using the gimbal on a tripod configured low to the ground. I cannot bend over for prolonged periods to position or adjust the camera. I was hoping for an option to do this remotely. Any suggestions? Thank you
This crane 3s seems only for large cameras like Red to do very quick takes.You won.t be rocking this on full day wedding unless you are Arnold Schwarzenegger cousin Lol.
Hello! Tell me please. I bought myself a Zhiyun Crane 3S. But I urgently needed a focus motor. I bought the engine that is stronger (fourth). When he came to me it turned out that he could not fix on my Crane 3S, because they have different fasteners with Crane 3. But if I can attach this motor somehow - I have a BIG PROBLEM! This motor only works in ZOOM mode even though I plug it into the Focus socket. I tried both slots, but it only works from the ZOOM button. How can this conflict be resolved? Is it possible to make it work in Focus mode? I urgently need a consultation, because I bought a motor on Ebay and, if the issue cannot be resolved, then I must return it. But I would like an alternative
Yes, the CRANE 3SE is 649$ and there you wont get the handle SmartSling Handle. only a normal handle that screws on. The Crane 3s PRO I haven't that much info about, but I belive it will come with the extra power supply and maby som other accessories, but I dont't know. The price is also unknown.
Ja, men det var en fejl i styresystemet da det var en pre-produktions model jeg havde. Fik en ny et par dage senere med nyere styresystem og den virkede helt fino, men syntes stadig den er alt for tung at arbejde med.
@@PeterMakholm whoa! Thats a lot! I guess this gimbal will be useful for those who need a cheap option for vehicle mounted gimbals. Handholding this will not be everyone's cup of tea.
That pre-production crap is a lie. Sent mine back yesterday after getting this from their support email: For vibration or wobble issue, it can cause by follow points: 1. Not mount and balance camera kits well. Suggest use two screws to tighten cinema camera. Must be manual-balance camera kit before starting.see video:lightollector.zhiyun-tech.com/activity?id=381 2. Without using lens support for fix lens. this is must, specially with big or heavier lens. 3. Motor force is very important. Mirrorless and DSLR camera with light weight or small size, motor force suggest to using low or medium; with heavier weight or big size cinema camera, suggest to using high or utra-high.
I have a Weebill S and it wobbled as well only because the camera wasn't balanced (once balanced on the tilt, pan and roll axis the wobble was gone). So if using a bigger rigged out camera, I don't think it can balance well even though the 3S can handle the weight.
Come on now; obviously the sling mode doesn't work properly because of all the attachments you have on the camera that makes a very bad weight distribution. I mean you even have a monitor attached straight to the camera. Wow...
I am fully aware of the camera beeing top-heavy. But it should take 6,5kg and therefore it should not wobble that much. Even when I take off the screen and handle and removes the extension it still wobbles. I confirmed this with my colleague that tested it with a fx9 and he had the same problem. If I put my S1H on the Crane 3 Lab it works 100% so; something is differently wrong with the firmware of the Crane 3s.
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I have been working on this CRANE 3S DUAL GRIP for a couple of weeks, and it completely changes the way you work with you CRANE 3S
See all the benefits in the video here.
th-cam.com/video/T3Cf31ac_UA/w-d-xo.html
This video spoke to that wobble you mentioned. th-cam.com/video/rE6DDkB6lPw/w-d-xo.html . I am still looking for the best gimbal for the Sony 4k Handycam FDR-AX100.
Peter‼️ Another video of coolness, informative information, and helpful. 💛😎
Perfect review got my answer in min 7:00 about having to re balance the gimbal after each release thank you
Love from "Kerala" (India)
Thanks mate.
the new crane 3s payload is 6,5kg. can you please tell me the max payload of the webill s?thanks man and great video.
There is no Max payload to be found, but it is strong enough to carry my S1H even thoug I can't ballance it 100%. I would guess that i can handle about 4kg.
@@PeterMakholm thank you for the reply. i just found out that zhiyun gimbal's motor is a bit "weak" compared to the other brand. im using a7iii with crane plus right now and even with my sony a6500 sometimes the motor drift on certain position/angle. anyway thanks again. i think i might get 3s for my next gimbal.
Thank you, it looks interesting but heavy. Which gimbal do you recommend for a BMPCC4K?
It is a tricky one. if you want to use the Weebill S, you need counter weights, so I might consider a slightly bigger gimbal. maby a crane 3 lab DJI ronin S. You can go for the Crane 3SE, then you can use your BMPCC4K fully rigged.
@@PeterMakholm Thank you Peter ;)
legit result following this direction
UPDATE: The Crane 3S gimbal in this video is a PRE PRODUCTION model and there fore it is not perfrming as 100%. I have now gotten a working sample the Crane 3s and the video with it will be out toonight.
If camera is wobbling you need to review settings for motors and let crane know you either use small od large heavy system.
Through my recent use of this.... Found that I had a flawless experience with underslung mode with short arm with my S1H and 8Sinn Cage (removed top handle) worked like a dream. Extended the arm with intent on adding payload and it began to wobble in underslung mode. Never got to add my accessories. I am gonna keep it though cause, it's just waaaaaay too much fun to use! Sux that it doesn't work exactly like it's supposed to...
I just ordered mine yesterday. Had to sell my ronin m and ronin s.
No need of keeping the the M if I can't balance my bmpcc on it
You will have no problem with ballancing you BMPCC on it. Please let me know what you think of it when you have goten it. /Pete
@@PeterMakholm Most Def Pete... Will let you know
you can balance the bmpcc 4k/6k on the M
@@pinguimatrevido7902 I've tried, never worked for me plus it's old.
Here it is the new and mighty Zhiyun Crane 3S. The upgrade from the crane 3 lab. Will you buy the crane 3S?
Peter Makholm already did just the waiting game for it to come. Check out my latest video I did rollers with the weebill s going 65mph . I. Can imagine the power on this new gimbal
I heard there is a battery you can buy for the crane 3s that powers the camera & accessories. Do you know how long battery life would be for this. Let's say running a bmpcc4k camera and a monitor.
@@Crypto_Dingos Yes, that is right, there will be a battery back avalible later, but I don't know when the battery back will be avalible.
@@lucrativestance Sweet ride mate. Did you shoot it with the Weebill S out on the side of the car.
Peter Makholm I actually mounted it on the car and used the remote controller to move it . Works good
Hmm, its this or hope the Moza air x gets released, but it was announced late 2018 so there is no telling how long it will be :( 1kg lighter than this and the same payload.
That sounds promising because the Crane 3S is to heavy without dual grip or cage.
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love your videos Pete. will you be using it yourself or will you continue with the crane 3 lab.
MuteOptics I will use it for test, but probably not more that. It is to heavy and my Glidecam is a perfect match for my S1H
Mr Makholm, can you please list out your camera cage and handle setup please. thank you in advance and also thanks for the honest info on the 3S. I may just get the crane 3 to use for motion time lapse primarily.
Yes I can it should all be in this video here. th-cam.com/video/N0oXJQ3WaxY/w-d-xo.html
Maybe it is wobling because you use the extension arm...
Θάνος Ανδρεάδης It is an firmware issue. We are in contact with Zhiyun and they just sent a firmware update. I’ll install it an get back with an updated video once it is working.
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Thanks for this review and the follow-up video.
Question - how much noise does your Crane 3S make?
I recently got one and there is a constant whirring of gyros (I assume) in the horizontal piece where the batteries go, whenever the unit is powered on.
I also hear the tilt axis motor distinctly.
With the Crane 2, noise was almost imperceptible, so I can't tell if my 3S is defective or if it is normal for it to be noticeably noisier with the larger motors.
looks great . i wondering if the gimbal can support camcorder like the sony ax100
ZenPhotoCraft Media I don't know if it is supported but it can definitely go on there. Check the comparability list
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Nice!! Mine will arrive soon 😎
Victor Bart - RETRO Machines yeah, but it is a heavy beast. I just saw your video of your old truck. It is so cool. What are you using it for?
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Hey. Tell me, did you like the Crane 3S stabilizer? When you used the Crane 3S stabilizer and the Blackmagic 6K video camera, the video picture was smooth, did not twitch? Do you like the operation of the Crane 3S with the Blackmagic 6K? I also ordered a Crane 3S stabilizer.
I just started using it again with a dual handle setup. Video is coming up soon.
Peter Makholm ALL, finally, today I started the tested Blackmagic 6k with the Crane 3S stabilizer. MY ENRANCE IS NO LIMIT. LOW BOW OF THE CHINESE. The stabilization is divine. I compare with when I used the Crane 3 Lab, I spent so many nights, exhausted, could not get stabilization, which I just didn’t do. Even the heart 💓 beats with joy that with the new CRANE 3S stabilizer, I can get stabilization using the Blackmagic 6K camera 🙏🙏🙏😌😌😌Certainly this is the beginning, now I’ll try to hang something on the stabilizer, but I’m sure that everything super 👏 will be, as I was convinced of the enormous power of the motors. Crane 3S is a completely different stabilizer compared to Crane 3 Lab
Peter Makholm THANKS, I WILL UNCERTAINLY WAIT FOR A VIDEO TEST FROM YOU
Peter Makholm FRIEND, THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION. I DIDN'T FIND THE CRANE 3S INSTRUCTIONS for a description of the buttons that are located on the optional handle that attaches to the Crane 3S stabilizer. Tell me, you also did not find?
Great video! Question - How are you making sure you watch/Monitor your shots when performing low angle(cowboy shots) or other movements that arent so convential?
Dareck Maurice Hi. I use a monitor on the side. That works perfect for low shots. In my weebill S monitor video you can see how I use and mount it on the side. Works exactly the same for the crane 3S or lab.
@@PeterMakholm Awesome!
Dareck Maurice th-cam.com/video/04rKUl8QaWo/w-d-xo.html
What is your watch, vest and shirt?
Aleksandar Kuraica the watch is a suunto traverse alpha, the vest is a North Face, an shirt is a Burton.
dear Peter have you shot any footage with 3S, can you share it.. I would love to see just straight walk into some wall or similar no moving object. No IS on :)) thanks!
Yeah. I'll se if I can do a couople of shot of it and send it you way. But I really don't use it, because of the weight distribution makes it super fornt heavy.
Hi Peter! Did you get the controls of Lumix S1h controlled by the Crane3S?? Thanks!!
I am new to motorized gimbals. Because of back issues, I am considering purchasing a gimbal for still-shots low to the ground; however, the gimbal appeared very unstable on your desktop. Would the Crane 3S or even the Crane 3 Lab be stable enough for still photography as slow shutter speeds (say 1/10th sec.)? BTW, I use a medium format camera-total payload about 7lbs. Thanks in advance
The gimbal is very stable, but it is a heavy beast. Why would you use a gimbal and not a tripod.
@@PeterMakholm You are correct, the weight would probably be an issue. I was considering using the gimbal on a tripod configured low to the ground. I cannot bend over for prolonged periods to position or adjust the camera. I was hoping for an option to do this remotely. Any suggestions? Thank you
new year, new gimbal. Would you upgrade from the crane 3 lab. gh5 user.
The Bucket List Ride No. I would keep the crane 3 Lab
Can you please share with me the monitor you're using on your camera and battery. Thank you!!!
Hi thx for the videos,
I have a question is this Gimbal better than the Ronin S ?
They arent shipping it to india. I want to buy one. if you not going to use it, can u pls give me for trials?
wierd that they arent shipping to india, I only have this one for test. I will deliver it back at some point.
hey . thank u for video , does crane 3SE has focos and zoom motor and his tools in its box or should buy seperately?
shahab maghami no you will not get focus or zoom motors in neither crane 3s or 3SE. There is tools in the box. But not a tiny screwdriver
@@PeterMakholm 🙏🏽🌼
This crane 3s seems only for large cameras like Red to do very quick takes.You won.t be rocking this on full day wedding unless you are Arnold Schwarzenegger cousin Lol.
Milan Dzunda yes exactly I tried to get some shots yesterday, but it was too heavy
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Great review from Austin TX
Thanks mate. It is a heavy beast.
@@PeterMakholm if it weren't for you review of the weebill s, I wouldn't have gotten it. Would have stayed with the AK2000.
@@tjsn-4vision I think you made a wise choice of going for the Weebill S.
It is RIDICULOUSLY BIG for weddings. Try using it for 5 mins lol
ricci ocampos yes it is unreal.
Nice brother
thanks mate
7 kg setup? mine is 11kg with red raven and and dji ronin xD / Thanks for sharing your review.
Alexander Kappler ohhh man. How do you carry it?
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What is that handle grip on the side? And can i get it for the lab 3?
Yes it fits on any gimbal link is in the description and here.
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Hello! Tell me please. I bought myself a Zhiyun Crane 3S. But I urgently needed a focus motor. I bought the engine that is stronger (fourth). When he came to me it turned out that he could not fix on my Crane 3S, because they have different fasteners with Crane 3. But if I can attach this motor somehow - I have a BIG PROBLEM! This motor only works in ZOOM mode even though I plug it into the Focus socket. I tried both slots, but it only works from the ZOOM button. How can this conflict be resolved? Is it possible to make it work in Focus mode? I urgently need a consultation, because I bought a motor on Ebay and, if the issue cannot be resolved, then I must return it. But I would like an alternative
Did you buy the max or lite motor. for the follow focus you need the lite follow motor.
@@PeterMakholm I buy Max. In box from this motor i read "Focus and zoom"...
have they fixed the issues with wobbling?
Is that side handle extra?
Hey, would you be able to put the gimbal on scales and share with us it's weight? :D
Ben BESA yes, the gimbal itself with the side handle weighs in at 3,4kg. Fully rigged with s1h and accessories 6,9kg
@@PeterMakholm so for my Ariii just sick with the crane 3?
@@PeterMakholm wow, that's really heavy as crane 3 lab is 1.9 kg :O
Ben BESA yeah it is a heavyweight
Man it is huge. can you compare it with the crane 3 lab.
Yes it is coming in a future video.
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Crane 3s or Movi M15?
MOVI M15 the ergonomics is better.
Thanks so much, u got another sub!🤙
How do u think the stabilization compares on those 2 gimbals tho. One any better than the other to your knowledge? Last question thanks man 👍
Love from India❤
Appreciate it mate. stay safe.
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Hi,Peter do you know recently i have bought lab3 model is there any update for it?thank's
Hi Peter
I read somewhere there are three versions from zhiyun
crane 3S , crane 3S-E and crane 3S PRO !!
Do you know anything about this version ??
Yes, the CRANE 3SE is 649$ and there you wont get the handle SmartSling Handle. only a normal handle that screws on.
The Crane 3s PRO I haven't that much info about, but I belive it will come with the extra power supply and maby som other accessories, but I dont't know. The price is also unknown.
Peter Makholm thank you 👌🏼
Why complain about weight when it’s meant to carry heavier payloads???
305kubrick it is not a complaint. But if you don't have a big camera and are considering buying the crane 3s, it might be good to know.
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Isn't your desk too shaky?
디지타마 yeah, it is crap. I am going to renovate the whole studio and with that comes a new desk.
Where did you get that side handle?
TheHatch from Amazon, here is the link. amzn.to/2UbyZgc
Har du prøvet at ændre motornes styrkke når du er i 'underslung' det er et typisk grundlag til motor ryst.
Ja, men det var en fejl i styresystemet da det var en pre-produktions model jeg havde. Fik en ny et par dage senere med nyere styresystem og den virkede helt fino, men syntes stadig den er alt for tung at arbejde med.
at the beginning of the video where can i find music?
Hi, It is from the Lens Distortions pack Endurance. The track is called ( FAST PULSE )
Here is the website.
lensdistortions.com/sfx/endurance/
It
@@PeterMakholm thank :)
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How much does the bare gimbal weigh all by itself?
Mystic Aperture Studios with the extension on and my side handle and quick release plate it weighs 3.5kg.
@@PeterMakholm whoa! Thats a lot! I guess this gimbal will be useful for those who need a cheap option for vehicle mounted gimbals. Handholding this will not be everyone's cup of tea.
Mystic Aperture Studios exactly, just the short time I used it in the studio l could already feel it in my back. I'll be sticking to my Glidecam.
@@PeterMakholm Holy moly, I thought this was around 2.5kg
Barnabas Mackay yeah that is correct, but that is without battery, baseplate, extention plate and my custom accessories.
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Your setup is bad. The montor on the camera with a fat battery is a problem
Nope. It was a firmware problem. It is fixed and works fine. But with that said, I don't use it with the monitor on top, I have to down by the side.
i'll keep the webill s
Rainer Zeilinger good choice. It is an amazing little gimbal.
That pre-production crap is a lie.
Sent mine back yesterday after getting this from their support email:
For vibration or wobble issue, it can cause by follow points:
1. Not mount and balance camera kits well. Suggest use two screws to tighten cinema camera. Must be manual-balance camera kit before starting.see video:lightollector.zhiyun-tech.com/activity?id=381
2. Without using lens support for fix lens. this is must, specially with big or heavier lens.
3. Motor force is very important. Mirrorless and DSLR camera with light weight or small size, motor force suggest to using low or medium; with heavier weight or big size cinema camera, suggest to using high or utra-high.
David Love yeah, I won't be using it as well. I'll be looking at the MOVI PRO instead.
I have a Weebill S and it wobbled as well only because the camera wasn't balanced (once balanced on the tilt, pan and roll axis the wobble was gone). So if using a bigger rigged out camera, I don't think it can balance well even though the 3S can handle the weight.
Which camera / rig were you using on the 3S?
your watch, what is it? lol
Memorable Pixels Suunto traverse Alpha
Come on now; obviously the sling mode doesn't work properly because of all the attachments you have on the camera that makes a very bad weight distribution. I mean you even have a monitor attached straight to the camera. Wow...
I am fully aware of the camera beeing top-heavy. But it should take 6,5kg and therefore it should not wobble that much. Even when I take off the screen and handle and removes the extension it still wobbles. I confirmed this with my colleague that tested it with a fx9 and he had the same problem. If I put my S1H on the Crane 3 Lab it works 100% so; something is differently wrong with the firmware of the Crane 3s.
Thanks for your input. How stiff is the craneS? I build my own DJI RoninS Rig th-cam.com/video/26H4Wc0YCQI/w-d-xo.html and its a little bit wobbly.