A person is with you for as long as they want to be, and gifts or support does not mean you have purchased her. She's a human being with a right to change her mind if that's the case, but regardless, no one belongs to you. This isn't slavery.
If you think that that thing was a relationship then something is wrong with you. Yes, no one has a right to cut a life. They were both wrong, you will surely get that when you play with fire.
@@lionessnala2000 That was never a relationship but a business transaction. I'm surprise that you see it as a normal reletionship. People are just turning a blind eye to what the lady did and focuses more on the guy. They were both wrong, such things should be approached with balance.
Im a man ,but i so much believe in freedom to life, no woman owes me loyalty if she wanna leave its her loss .i know im better if i behave well ,really sorry for the family
I taught my daughter that before marriage,she should have her education,job,house,car and money.She is 23 and a PhD candidate at WITS.Ladies live your lives and stay AWAY from trouble
@@Pula732 When a woman has wisdom,she has a better chance to make decisions that will catapult her to living a life she WANTS and not need a man to do staff for her.I am such a woman...
The way that girl doesn’t even look like a slay queen on pictures. 💔💔😭 she just looked like someone coming from real poverty and had to make a plan for school and books 💔💔💔😩 Aiii our sisters in this economy are going through it Shem. 😩
I am going through it myself. I still thank God for His provision and that prostituting myself has never been an option..... That *"I can do things through Christ who strengthens me"* Is really my daily bread
Nothing slay queen about her at all...ordinary young girl...the grey dress with pic on the front my 16year old has it too bought for her at mrp, so honestly didn't deserve this gruesome killing😭💔. Oh Lord be with our children. I always tell my 21year old son to first love himself otherwise if not he won't be able to love the next person...
Thays exactly what makes her more vulnerable than other girls cos she looks needy so she is a target and at risk of being manipulated and enticed with nice things. It a shame as owning a laptop is not a to die for commodity...but I guess in our country for some children it is. A beautiful life cut short...may her soul rest in peace 😇.
@@sbonzama7013 I don't think you understand that comment. The person was stressing MORALITY. The world is here because we think we are smarter than God who gave us principles to live by. Something was surely wrong with both of them and that is the results.
Yes, boyfriends-girlfriends cannot cheat on one another. They are not in a committed relationship...they are friends thus the phrase boy-girlfriend. But if they decide to do stuff that married people do in their relationship then they only have themselves to blame. Intimacy does not elevate a relationship it complicates it. I wish someone had told me this when I was younger.
Money and sex aren't love. Possessiveness and manipulation lead to toxicity. A demented person creates dysfunctionality in a relationship and births atrocities. It is heartbreaking to always hear such horrendous stories. Ro tshaba lo jola weitse😢. A question to you sibs: Are you saying it is ok to be in a relationship and continue to see "other" people, and only married people are the only ones who get to be cheated on?
Problem is we are governed by patriarchy . Men expect women to accept their BS but should they move on it's seen as defiance hence some kill their partners. I fear men's ego's.
Thank you so much for lessons you teaching us. Evil people do Evil things like this man. It's sad to the family who lost their 21yrs old young lady . May her soul Rest In Peace
😢😢😢, it's hard to say rest in peace to these lady because she died a most painful and heart breaking 😢😢.thank you sister for these heart breaking news.
He felt used by the girl! That’s why I say let us support our daughters, he might have let his family down investing in this girl. Maybe he neglected his own children
The truth that most people won't accept. She is bringing a laptop, money and others but parents see nothing wrong with it. Once she is killed everybody is blaming 😢😢. May God heal the family🙏🙏
Perhaps I wasn't too clear in my previous comment. What I meant was, using myself as an example, I will never put all my trust and effort into someone else because people can disappoint you. For single people, I believe it is important to have a conversation with the person you are dating and ask, "What are your intentions with me?" Whether it's dating seriously or just going with the flow, having clarity is essential. However, I will not have high expectations from a boyfriend to the point where I would break down if he "disappoints me." I use the term "disappoint" lightly because I don't set high expectations for people, thus avoiding disappointment. For instance, a 41-year-old man felt as if he owned a young lady because he was buying her gifts and paying for her tuition. He became enraged and disappointed, thinking he was being played. Had he not believed that buying someone gifts meant they couldn't disappoint him, he wouldn't be in jail, and the lady would still be alive.
as a grandmother myself and a mother of my grown children, really i have a 24 years granddaughter, if I am thinking about this man really i feel chocked in my throat, an old man who has gone around to manipulate the children and made them like it's his toy he can do what ever because he's paying this/that. i don't know where we're going to hide because everyday we wake up and get/read/ listen to the very shocking news, may her soul be resting easy 🙏 💔
So grandma, you don't see anything wrong with that girl receiving gifts and being in love with that 40 year old man? Blaming the man alone won't solve the problem, something was wrong with that girl also. Say your grandchildren are doing it, will you blame their boyfriends only?
A man who is 20-16 yrs older than the woman in relationship and espacially thinking that, that woman has a life time committement for him, is putting an unnecessary pressure to himself. Usually 21 olds are likely to experiement or enjoy themselves and not really looking for a marriage, whilst the old toppie is investing for a permanent relationship. That is unreasonable and unfair to the young woman. Wena as a 41yrs old you enjoyed your 21 st years, ujola and you expect a young woman, who is still finding herself to commit, and on top of that commit to an old age home. Its ridiculous, imagine that the young woman was 41 and her hubby is 81, that is crazy, you would run mad when she is not at home because you know that you can no longer offer her most things she needs, emotionally and other wise, she has to be running a nursing home for her hubby, that is selfish. To then even plan to kill her for her youthfulness that you were not killed for yours, deserves a death penalty after spending 6 yrs in prison.
🤣😂 what an imposing comment. I don’t have relationship drama so I will stick to mamas advice. Each to their own ❤️ Don’t know what trauma you’re talking about 🤦🏽♀️
This is so sad very for the child but Sibs don't underestimate this generation of 19/20 year olds nceee talking from experience but killing Mmmm big NO
Lelo ngyaphoxeka if you not mentioning these girls fresh out of high school all over Instagram taking pictures inside Bentleys, Rolls Royce. You not putting any blame on them for chasing these older men. No one in their age group is driving a R5mil car. You can blame older men for dating younger girls but intombi ayiqomi umuntu engamfuni. So this is going to keep happening coz they all dating for the wrong reasons.
@@lelonWakaGatsheni this topic really hits home for me because I have a daughter. I come from a well off family and I'm doing well for myself too. My ex girlfriend also the mother is my child doesn't want me to see my daughter since February this year. I used to pay around R2k monthly in child maintenance, not including medical aid and other miscellaneous expenses. She decided to exclude me from my daughter's life because she found out I am dating someone else. She says I'm a toxic man yet I've done more than what most young fathers do for their kids these days. If our situation isn't fixed by elders in our families, I can only imagine what poison she will be teaching my daughter about men as she grows up. She's already telling people I'm an absent father but she's the one who cut me off. Even my mother tried to reach out to her but she isn't listening. Such a sad situation. I'm present and willing to play my role as a father but she doesn't want me there coz I don't want to be in a relationship with her because of her behavior that ruined our relationship in the first place.
I sometimes blame us as parents. When your daughter is seeing someone we as parents stop providing for them girls. We tell them uzoyithola la ulala khona. We buy them no toiletries , sithi the one olala naye must take responsibility , kulapho ke laba think they own our kids and do as they pleases. parents expect their kids babuye xa belele out with groceries
morning siblings, even though he was paying whatever he is saying he doesn't have the right to do what he have done to that child, may her soul rest in peace 🙏 my granddaughter she's 25 this year really i put myself in that situation and feel so sorry for the grandparents, 😢
Wa refora wena love has no age you can find a 21yr old mother .de law was saying date them at 18 now dey have changed and reduce dat now its 17 so wena o tshwere efeng byanong😮
A person is with you for as long as they want to be, and gifts or support does not mean you have purchased her. She's a human being with a right to change her mind if that's the case, but regardless, no one belongs to you. This isn't slavery.
If you think that that thing was a relationship then something is wrong with you.
Yes, no one has a right to cut a life. They were both wrong, you will surely get that when you play with fire.
@@kingpk4429....what do you mean...your comment is not clear?
I also want to know.
@@lionessnala2000
That was never a relationship but a business transaction. I'm surprise that you see it as a normal reletionship. People are just turning a blind eye to what the lady did and focuses more on the guy. They were both wrong, such things should be approached with balance.
Bathong another KARABO being burned by a boyfriend. Remember KARABO Mokwena & Sandile Mantswe 😢💔
Im a man ,but i so much believe in freedom to life, no woman owes me loyalty if she wanna leave its her loss .i know im better if i behave well ,really sorry for the family
You were raised well. I love your thinking, kudos to you bro💙✊
I love how you say it with your chest “her loss” 🙌🙌
You are an amazing gent,wish you were my son❤
I taught my daughter that before marriage,she should have her education,job,house,car and money.She is 23 and a PhD candidate at WITS.Ladies live your lives and stay AWAY from trouble
True.However there are women who were well educated & had financial independence who were killed by their men.
Very bad Feminist advise!
@@YAHsprincess75 ❤️ that's amazing, I aspire to be like your daughter ❤️ 💖 💕 that's inspiring to me
@@Pula732 When a woman has wisdom,she has a better chance to make decisions that will catapult her to living a life she WANTS and not need a man to do staff for her.I am such a woman...
@@ITGIRL00 If you aspire it,work hard and it will be yours!Best regards!
The way that girl doesn’t even look like a slay queen on pictures. 💔💔😭 she just looked like someone coming from real poverty and had to make a plan for school and books 💔💔💔😩
Aiii our sisters in this economy are going through it Shem. 😩
I am going through it myself. I still thank God for His provision and that prostituting myself has never been an option..... That
*"I can do things through Christ who strengthens me"*
Is really my daily bread
❤️❤️❤️
Nothing slay queen about her at all...ordinary young girl...the grey dress with pic on the front my 16year old has it too bought for her at mrp, so honestly didn't deserve this gruesome killing😭💔. Oh Lord be with our children. I always tell my 21year old son to first love himself otherwise if not he won't be able to love the next person...
Thays exactly what makes her more vulnerable than other girls cos she looks needy so she is a target and at risk of being manipulated and enticed with nice things. It a shame as owning a laptop is not a to die for commodity...but I guess in our country for some children it is. A beautiful life cut short...may her soul rest in peace 😇.
Mmm let's pray for our children's and tell them about GOD because without him in their lives there are nothing mmm its painful 😭
That's the problem, you wana pray & not Parent! Black people rely on prayer too much instead of solving problems head on!
@@sbonzama7013 I don't think you understand that comment. The person was stressing MORALITY. The world is here because we think we are smarter than God who gave us principles to live by.
Something was surely wrong with both of them and that is the results.
Yes, boyfriends-girlfriends cannot cheat on one another. They are not in a committed relationship...they are friends thus the phrase boy-girlfriend. But if they decide to do stuff that married people do in their relationship then they only have themselves to blame. Intimacy does not elevate a relationship it complicates it. I wish someone had told me this when I was younger.
Money and sex aren't love. Possessiveness and manipulation lead to toxicity. A demented person creates dysfunctionality in a relationship and births atrocities. It is heartbreaking to always hear such horrendous stories. Ro tshaba lo jola weitse😢.
A question to you sibs:
Are you saying it is ok to be in a relationship and continue to see "other" people, and only married people are the only ones who get to be cheated on?
Problem is we are governed by patriarchy . Men expect women to accept their BS but should they move on it's seen as defiance hence some kill their partners. I fear men's ego's.
Payriarchy built this world! No patriarchy, no men, no civilizasion!! Deal with it! You sound bitter, heal woman.
Yoooooh I'm speechless 😢please God hear our prayers 🙏
Your content is always informative en educational thank u Lelo❤
Thank you so much for lessons you teaching us. Evil people do Evil things like this man. It's sad to the family who lost their 21yrs old young lady . May her soul Rest In Peace
😢😢😢, it's hard to say rest in peace to these lady because she died a most painful and heart breaking 😢😢.thank you sister for these heart breaking news.
Yho yho yhoo ubaby girl exactly as my first born😢this is sic
Very sick
40s we are not sugar papas haibo 😂😂😂
You are 😂😂😂😂
@@beautymellz5600 at 40 I’m still a bf. Sugar daddies are those close to 60 😂😂😂
He felt used by the girl! That’s why I say let us support our daughters, he might have let his family down investing in this girl. Maybe he neglected his own children
Let's also teach men and boys that people are not to be killed because they used them... It's material possessions which can be replaced
Very true but the victim here is the girl....
@@glendamaile I totally agree with you
Ubonile yini kodwa dade ukuthi sesi monitized 🤭Thanks to you my mentor ❤
Catching up📍
People are sick out here😢
💃💃💃💃💃let me go congratulate you ❤️
I am not condoning this behavior at all , but masifundise abantwana abangamantombazana
The truth that most people won't accept.
She is bringing a laptop, money and others but parents see nothing wrong with it.
Once she is killed everybody is blaming 😢😢.
May God heal the family🙏🙏
Good advise from uMama injalo...the sooner you understand that the better...❤
Amen 🙏
You lost me Nkosazane, a boyfriend can cheat on you haibo guys.
Perhaps I wasn't too clear in my previous comment. What I meant was, using myself as an example, I will never put all my trust and effort into someone else because people can disappoint you.
For single people, I believe it is important to have a conversation with the person you are dating and ask, "What are your intentions with me?" Whether it's dating seriously or just going with the flow, having clarity is essential.
However, I will not have high expectations from a boyfriend to the point where I would break down if he "disappoints me." I use the term "disappoint" lightly because I don't set high expectations for people, thus avoiding disappointment.
For instance, a 41-year-old man felt as if he owned a young lady because he was buying her gifts and paying for her tuition. He became enraged and disappointed, thinking he was being played. Had he not believed that buying someone gifts meant they couldn't disappoint him, he wouldn't be in jail, and the lady would still be alive.
😂😂😂the screaming part😅 you are goddess 😂@@lelonWakaGatsheni
I so love you Lelo❤
I so love u too ❤️
Hayike abapha zi expects in doing that ask me...eza mansions zakhiwa pha ngamagazi abantu😢
Very sad indeed
What a sad way to end her life I don’t even think he knows what love is 😢
Eish 😢😢
Im two years older than her 🥺this Is so sad mann!
Stay away from these old men my sib, love u too much ❤️
as a grandmother myself and a mother of my grown children, really i have a 24 years granddaughter, if I am thinking about this man really i feel chocked in my throat, an old man who has gone around to manipulate the children and made them like it's his toy he can do what ever because he's paying this/that. i don't know where we're going to hide because everyday we wake up and get/read/ listen to the very shocking news, may her soul be resting easy 🙏 💔
May her soul rest in peace, 🙏 sending love to your granddaughter ❤️❤️❤️
So grandma, you don't see anything wrong with that girl receiving gifts and being in love with that 40 year old man?
Blaming the man alone won't solve the problem, something was wrong with that girl also.
Say your grandchildren are doing it, will you blame their boyfriends only?
This is so sad and painful. How cruel is this man. My heart is bleeding for her family. May her soul rest in peace and condolences to the family 😢
🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
A man who is 20-16 yrs older than the woman in relationship and espacially thinking that, that woman has a life time committement for him, is putting an unnecessary pressure to himself.
Usually 21 olds are likely to experiement or enjoy themselves and not really looking for a marriage, whilst the old toppie is investing for a permanent relationship.
That is unreasonable and unfair to the young woman.
Wena as a 41yrs old you enjoyed your 21 st years, ujola and you expect a young woman, who is still finding herself to commit, and on top of that commit to an old age home.
Its ridiculous, imagine that the young woman was 41 and her hubby is 81, that is crazy, you would run mad when she is not at home because you know that you can no longer offer her most things she needs, emotionally and other wise, she has to be running a nursing home for her hubby, that is selfish.
To then even plan to kill her for her youthfulness that you were not killed for yours, deserves a death penalty after spending 6 yrs in prison.
Wow you're right 🎉
Oh oh,shame,so sad,these old men are cruel for real
He might be lying that he paid for her tuition fee😩
Up until families deal with your family too.
I think it's also important to ask our children where they got the gadgets that we as parents clearly didn't buy. Condolences to the family 🙏
Hw many lives have been lost before. It cannot be that he can execute such a plan successfully.
Iyo iyo iyo our kids
It’s bad 😮💨
😢😢😢😢😢 Oh No..😢😢😢
😢💝
Haibo nkosiyami,21 yr old dating 41yr old for what😢😢
Aaai 😮💨
Your mama gave you bad advises! Sounds like she was transferring her traumas to you! Most women carry around their mother's traumas.
🤣😂 what an imposing comment. I don’t have relationship drama so I will stick to mamas advice. Each to their own ❤️
Don’t know what trauma you’re talking about 🤦🏽♀️
You are seeing the matter from one side...
I guess maturity does not come with age. What's he did and his reasoning ability!
We pray for her family
Cry the beloved country 😮😮😮
This man is so heartless 💔 😢
He’s cruel for sure
This is so sad very for the child but Sibs don't underestimate this generation of 19/20 year olds nceee talking from experience but killing Mmmm big NO
So you’re victim blaming?
My Sib I don't know what was really happening in this devil😢 mind, he will be in jail chawing our tax money for free, that's SA for you, live you sib
That’s the downside, he’s free from debt 💸 he now lives free in comfort
Lelo le di tseya kae taba tse?
😂😂😂😂 ba epa epa
Waiting for the story of the day
🙏🙏sib ❤️
Lelo ngyaphoxeka if you not mentioning these girls fresh out of high school all over Instagram taking pictures inside Bentleys, Rolls Royce. You not putting any blame on them for chasing these older men. No one in their age group is driving a R5mil car.
You can blame older men for dating younger girls but intombi ayiqomi umuntu engamfuni. So this is going to keep happening coz they all dating for the wrong reasons.
Can’t blame the tree when the problem stagers fro the root, you can’t say your child is going to take you out of poverty, the parent must set precinct
@@lelonWakaGatsheni this topic really hits home for me because I have a daughter. I come from a well off family and I'm doing well for myself too. My ex girlfriend also the mother is my child doesn't want me to see my daughter since February this year. I used to pay around R2k monthly in child maintenance, not including medical aid and other miscellaneous expenses. She decided to exclude me from my daughter's life because she found out I am dating someone else. She says I'm a toxic man yet I've done more than what most young fathers do for their kids these days.
If our situation isn't fixed by elders in our families, I can only imagine what poison she will be teaching my daughter about men as she grows up. She's already telling people I'm an absent father but she's the one who cut me off. Even my mother tried to reach out to her but she isn't listening. Such a sad situation. I'm present and willing to play my role as a father but she doesn't want me there coz I don't want to be in a relationship with her because of her behavior that ruined our relationship in the first place.
@@mxolisikhumalo1916 Why not go to a social worker and find out ur option as a father?Surely she will give u advised.
I sometimes blame us as parents. When your daughter is seeing someone we as parents stop providing for them girls. We tell them uzoyithola la ulala khona. We buy them no toiletries , sithi the one olala naye must take responsibility , kulapho ke laba think they own our kids and do as they pleases. parents expect their kids babuye xa belele out with groceries
Then that where the disrespect comes from. Ngoba nje he thinks kokwabo bondliwa ndim. Let us always guide and support our girls.
Hello Sibling ❤
Hello my sib ❤️
Hello sibs
Hey my sib ❣️
Oohh kodwa naye lo mlisa!!! Ubethi wenzani nengane nje okokqala?? MHSRIP😢
These days it's like a trend
morning siblings, even though he was paying whatever he is saying he doesn't have the right to do what he have done to that child, may her soul rest in peace 🙏 my granddaughter she's 25 this year really i put myself in that situation and feel so sorry for the grandparents, 😢
He had absolutely no right
Same age as my daughter
Please keep her safe 🙏🙏
A grown man dating a younger woman has always been the norm, even in Jesus time 🤷🏽♂️
Wa refora wena love has no age you can find a 21yr old mother .de law was saying date them at 18 now dey have changed and reduce dat now its 17 so wena o tshwere efeng byanong😮
Tswang baneng😂😂😂😂
Very sad indeed