@@To.Catch.A.Killer HEY, your buttons are glitchy. When I hit the Share button, it made it a downvote! Yesterday I noticed videos with no Share button...now it's back, but the icon's got a number that's apparently wired to the downvote. So YT's crack team of geniuses has been fiddling around with them.
The fact he thought that couple was sitting there “just to make him jealous” is insane. This guy really thought the world revolved around him in the worst kind of way.
@@peterhammer6915 wasn't meant as a dig, so no need to get aggressive. However watching the whole documentary, I would, given what I know of the trademarks of someone with that condition, he would be?
The funny thing is that he was actually a good looking dude. The fact that he didn't get girls would have been purely down to the fact that he acted weird and creepy.
idk without shoes im 5'9 too but its hard for me to even get noticed, i get compliments for my face ok, but when the girl is not 1 head shorter or the same height as me i got no chance@@quakewyd.
@@federalagent7334nah. It’s not because of his looks… he’s not ugly. It’s because of his personality. You actually sound insane defending his behavior. There’s no excuse to kill anyone.
That is crazy to think about. Imagine going out with your partner to watch a beautiful sunset, completely oblivious to the fact that just 20 ft behind you is someone who wants you dead just for being there when he was. Jesus.
Then got absolutely raging that he didn’t win. Like he was meant to 😂😂 the little fool was so shallow and delusional he thought being super rich would fix his happiness. This guy was always gona end up hating the world no matter what and dying or ending up in prison.
@@COJY06 I found that part fascinating. He already had the cars and the money, and still couldn't get girls to flock to him. So his next plan was to just acquire even more money lol. Crazy thing is, he could have just become a passport bro and get laid as much as he wanted abroad. But it seems like acceptance was what he wanted. He wanted people to accept him for who he is, while having a very toxic personality.
ikr Loaded and well connected parents 1000$ pocket money per month with BMW sounds like he didn't try to go to a whore and yet the logic isn't really that hard to follow when he puts the entire world into perspective most know the painful facts of society
You can't compare problems of one with those of another. You talk about money, but money doesn't buy love and love is what makes the world go round. Plus, to have famous parents while being socially awkward yourself will only make you less and less confident about yourself. Yet atst it gave him a sense of superiority which isn't a good emotion either because it's the other side of inferiority. His emotions therefore went all over the place. And you mention his parents but who says his parents gave him attention or love? It doesn't look like anyone ever told him that if girls don't talk to you, it might mean they are in love with you. The $1000 a month can also be felt like buying your love. Sometimes all people need is a little bit of attention and love. People in the west for example claim that Africa is a poor country but I think the west is poor. When I see videos of Africa I see people dancing and having friends and surrounded by nature often and when I see videos of the west it's often betrayal, racism, people claiming "go away, this is my country" or superficial "beauty" videos. People who think it's an advantage to get $1000 a month are probably rich theirselves, just a little bit less.
That's a very selfish comment. The one thing (most important) missing was parental guidance and some love, he got neither. He needed help but his parents weren't there for him. Brought up in a material world thinking you are gonna win the lottery or you're rich and deserve it, is not how the world works. I wonder do his parents share your view? We will never know..
It’s not like he’s ugly, he just acts so creepy, cringy and narcissistic he scares people away. Imagine dinner conversation with him, “look, check out my $300 Georgio Armani glasses. I’m so sexy with them on! How can you possibly resist me?”😅
His issues was he was playing the money game without enough money. If evil ugly thugs like El Choppo can get a hot girl than this guy could to he just needed more money. I am poor and ugly that is why i will never get a girlfriend. But unlike him I know it is all my fault for not being good enough because I know girls hate poor ugly guys.
it's just amazing how self-aware he was in his writings and yet his only solution was to committ the mass murders. he wasn't a bad looking kid either. he kept complaining about not getting any hot girls. he's too much into himself and his ego to actually have a relationship with anyone.
He didnät have a good example growing up. By the age of 9, he knew that if you had enough money you could by any gil you want, based on what his father did. I dont think it is his ego, it is more a broken few on reality of the relationship between man and a woman. His father tought or explained him nothing.
@@ayahgrig9218 I think the same things as you. A lot of these people who grow up to be killers had a childhood void of emotional support from their parents. It's funny how you can grow up rich and still be a mess of a person with bad character. There is no monetary replacement for a good set of parents to follow and provide structure for your life and emotional support -- telling your kids that having these feelings is ok but at some point you have to find out why you have these feelings and deal with them in a positive way. It's ok to feel jealous. It's ok to have "bad" thoughts but it is definitely not ok to act on them.
I have a feeling he didnt even attempt to talk to girls and probably thought girls should just come up to him. He seems very introverted and would likely not have made the first move.
@@jackshollenberger8904 how can he even attempt to make a first move when the girls bullied him to fit in with the popular kids just because he's the alone kid
@@Selendeki he's not ugly looking enough to dissuade girls from talking to him if he were to approach them. he is not a supermodel in looks but he's not the way you describe.
Questionable. He was jealous because he didn't have what others had. Ifnhe had the same, it's possible that he wouldn't have been jealous. We will simply never know
Huge sense of entitlement. It's as if he expected women to throw themselves at him. He claimed they never gave him a chance but I doubt he even tried talking to them.
That one clip where he drives right by 3 girls looking right into the car. He drives right by like a scared little boy. With that car and money I would've easily stopped and talked to all 3. I've gotten girls with much less
He refused to talk to women. If you read his story about his final "huge" attempt to get laid, he basically stares and stands next to girls at a party. That's it. He literally expected girls to just take him by the hand and have sex with him. He eludes to this several times.
Yup, above average looks, somewhat affluent, but a total mental mess. If nothing else he could have became a passport bro and had all the girls he wanted abroad. Then again I don't think that would have cured his need for being accepted by his peers.
I think it’s this, and how our society makes external validation so desirable. The dude clearly lacks any form of self awareness and is a victim of mimetic desire as a result. If he had any form of meaning derived from himself, he probably could’ve gotten past this.
Kid needed some heavy duty therapy. I mean, if you do not like the way things are going change your MO. So the kid does not like being an incel, OK, try to be a decent human being and you will be pleasantly surprised at the results.
The craziest thing is how someone who was so obviously disturbed as Elliott Roger could legally buy 4 handguns and use them to wreak havoc on so many people's lives. I will never understand why Americans are so adamant about their constitutional right to own guns. PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE.
I went to the same high schools with him. He used to hangout by where my group used to. I have a few corrections: 1. Elliot had Asperger’s. Our principal made it a point to tell my group of friends so we could try to include him. 2. He changed schools(1st time around) bc in like the first few days he froze in the cafeteria for almost the WHOLE day before anyone really noticed. He just stood there with his eyes all big hugging his backpack for dear life. 3. People didn’t bully him. People didn’t even notice him bc he NEVER spoke. Like ever. Even to the teachers. He would barely make eye contact. If you were a women/girl, the chances were even less. 4. He was SUPER into WoW. He would kill people in the game and camp over their bodies. He thought it was funny to watch them look for their stuff. 5. His mom was nice and pretty hands on. After high school and this happened we were all so shocked. We didn’t know just how much he hated us.
WOW Spook, your dot points spell out a very, very insecure troubled dude? i have only got to :18.15, an already i can sense his final acts of rage. Stay strong Spooky, from an ole Aussie hippie of the 70s, when all we thut about was surf, sharing life wit yo lady, shootin pool an puffin some good bush to the doors, eagles, jackson browne, neil young, dan fogelberg an even neil diamonds "Hot August night." CHEERS 😍
As an avid true crime watcher, this video was incredibly narrated and done. I’ve seen several about Elliot because his case is one I can’t wrap my mind around but this one still held my attention start to finish
@@72tadrian65 Life went in one complete downwards spiral after 'high school'. (I'm from Belgium, so it's not called 'middle school' and 'high school' here). Sure I've suffered during high school as well, I've been in and out of psychiatry since 15 years of age. But that structure and fun of being at a boarding school in high school, to the sudden increased difficulty, independence/need for self liability, and loneliness of college sucked *ss. High school wasn't great, but it certainly was WAY better. But that differs from person to person I guess.
@@kjell159 The problem with a lot of these dudes is they need a sexual outlet. Anyone can go online and buy 48kg of silicone and steel that looks and feels exactly like a gorgeous woman. That way when they talk to a real woman, they don’t come off thirsty. Nothing turns off a woman more than a thirsty dude.
Not taking away from his dispictable actions....But this is Mental Illness that was neglected by him & his family. Doesnt matter who you are ( just like Cancer) this doesnt discriminate..And I agree with you but sometimes you have to think outside the box.
His mental illness is that he was a psychopathic-narcissist... true psychopathy is a trip, the lack of empathy can't really be fixed, it's a hard wired neurological problem. Some psychopaths learn to navigate and fake empathy, mimick emotions and all that, but they are always psychopaths. Interestingly, a high number of CEOs and higher ups in corporations are legit psychopaths, it takes someone with no empathy or that can deny their empathy and humanity to reach those positions. I imagine his parents didn't really help the situation much, they just threw money at him. Maybe they did, but who his father was makes it unlikely.
I don’t think he ever even tried to make friends or approach women. He genuinely just expected some beautiful woman to come up to him and ask to be his girlfriend.
I don't know. Certainly, there was a point of no return for him. If he had gotten a girlfriend in high-school, things might have been different. He needed, love, attention, and socialization at a young age.
Once sitting on a terrace in a busy street, a man approached me to talk to me, my instinct was sending me signals "he's dangerous, be careful" but I preferred to take the risk of listening to him. I said "I listen and you can talk to me" he spoke to me for maybe 30 minutes, I didn't necessarily want to listen to him but my intuition told me that I was making the right choice. Then before leaving he said to me "Thank you for your ears because I've had a traumatic month and I was going to do something seriously horrible today that I was about to regret later."
As some one with many mental health issues including personality disorder I want to say thank u . Yes I won't lie we can be dangerous but that's usually the last last straw ... not saying we should all go say hey ect but if u didn't try many things many loves or the person life very well could been well gone forever.
@Jess.. I completely agree with you, thank you for your answer because I also suffer from personality disorder, I was beaten by my father and my mother, two drugs that raised a nice child like me and who m They made me live a nightmare until I was 18. I was sometimes beaten with slaps in the face, and even on the breasts, especially if they were in a powerful surge under the influence of drugs and alcohol. My mother was a violent, tyrannical, unpleasant, vulgar alcoholic, and my father was submissive to her. But he was also very unstable, very easily influenced and very mentally fragile. The most impressive thing for me is that they asked me for forgiveness on their knees 15 years later. I think it was the thing that touched me the most in my life, it made me cry and cry, it relieved me of a huge weight, of the hatred and rage that I felt. Now I continue to love them But I don't hang out with them, I avoid them because I still have a wound in my soul that hasn't healed.
@Jess I wish you a recovery, I also take xanax to go outside cause I have agoraphobia, panicky attack as well. But sometimes I take my xanax and I feel better, but that thing makes me sleep a lot like a bear.
The most important thing American's need to understand is that mass shootings like this are ALWAYS linked to the perpetrators childhood. I couldn't find much about his life when he was young but I know his parents divorced when he was 7. This didn't come out of nowhere. Elliot probably experienced years of tension, stress and fighting when he was going through his most vulnerable developmental stages. He most likely didn't get the mirroring and echoing that he needed from his mother to bond with her, this is where the intense hatred of women comes from. His mom may have been very critical of him at a young age, which he internalized and this became like an inner message playing on repeat. He couldn't get away from "you aren't good enough." His mother also probably had that message given to her when she was young. That's how generational trauma works. If we want to stop these kinds of things from happening we have to change our culture to teach everyone how to heal their inner wounds from childhood. Only emotionally healthy adults have any shot at raising emotionally healthy children. And emotionally healthy children grow into emotionally healthy adults. And emotionally healthy adults don't go on killing sprees! It's time that we start with each one of us. We all must do the work to heal our wounded inner child, so that we don't pass our pain and shame onto the next generation. Nothing else will do.
He mentioned his childhood was rejected by a girl, he described in his biography he was bullied by that girl and she hurt his self esteem permanently. I just can't believe his childhood was rough, he was totally crazy !
Look, I was an angsty teenager too. I grew up being totally rejected by society and treated like garbage. Many of my writings from that time are extremely similar to this kid's. I was angry at the entire world around and at times everyone in it. And you know what? I never hurt anyone. I truly believe that everyone on this earth has commonality in their struggles. But to me, the people who let adversity, in whatever form, become an excuse to indulge violence are trash. Being mad at the world never gives you the right to take it out on innocent beautiful lives. We've all struggled and we all have to find ways to mitigate that struggle, but there's a BIG turning point for those who choose violence as their answer, and they are always wrong. To me, that's what separates man from animal.
I agree. I have been a quiet person my whole life. I’m 21 now but I went though physical, mental, and emotional abuse growing up. I wrote, painted, and played video games to get through it. I wrote positive messages to myself even while the worst shit was happening in my life. I felt in my soul that life would get better for me. No one and I mean NO ONE pushed him to murder but himself. Honestly, I look at this guy and find him quite pathetic. Complaining about his life because he can’t get a fucking girlfriend? Murdering people because they won’t accept you? I cried because my mom said she would give me a rope to hang myself…I was angry of course but all I’ve done is stop talking to her. I still live with her and I don’t speak to her or even look her way. That’s the biggest pain I will ever inflict on her, even after everything she put me though… This guy just sucks and he’s pathetic….
its not the same for everyone, i dont believe people are born this way, they bome like this mostly from moron parents who dont do their job with normal parents there is no amount of fucked up environment that can break someone like that... same applies to school shooters, i bet if people take a closer look at the parents they will find plenty of disturbing stuff
I knew someone online in highschool eerily similar to this 7/8 years ago. Also recorded himself saying the same pathetic things with no shame. He’s in jail for battery on a woman as of recent. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of psychopaths out there.
The reason he got the crap beat out of him at that party is because he showed up and immediately started cussing out all the women there and went upstairs and was trying to grab them and throw them over the balcony. So in turn he got jumped. He lied to everyone about what happened to seem like a victim. This is one of the biggest cases of delusion I’ve ever seen in my life. I also think he was extremely autistic. The entire situation is so unfortunate.
Coming from a man diagnosed with autism, he’s most likely a person with both Narcissistic personality disorder and either a sociopath or psychopath on top of it, socio/psychopaths have the possessive, seemingly shy and loner type personalities that people with autism exhibit growing up. Same with empathy, but not to his extent.
He repeatedly calls others obnoxious, yet cant see it in himself. Its possibly why it was so difficult getting others to like him. For those out there who believe life is totally against them,PLEASE try and speak to someone, ANYONE. If that doesn't work and your reasoning is killing others, PLEASE start with yourself. Im so sorry to put it so bluntly. I Personally am there for Anyone whose going through inner turmoil and hell,if someone isnt willing or isn't able to interact,gaining infamy by hurting others is definitely not the way and I hope narcissistic people can somehow see that.
The one error is: narcissists only see themselves for themselves. They wouldn’t look so far into themselves to see that they are affecting others In a negative way. They will always turn the gun on themselves only after “making the world pay!!”👍🏾
@@jenniturtleburger3708when your parents don’t do anything but throw money at you and not show anything else but money and not get you mental help wat would you do?
@@LoEvRod dont blame the parents. They did what they can. Its him who is responsible for this. If he spoke out or got help in time lives would have been saved.
So scary how self loathing he was yet overwhelmingly narcassistic at the same time. Some of his writings remind me of what Bryan Koeburger ( the ID 4 killer) had documented online. Loneliness, being single, lack of friends....just seems to drive them to scary outcomes. He needed serious therapy and everyone ignored every sign....very sad.
Most ppl with NPD suffer with self loathing, although they usually never divulge that info to anyone.. this gives really good insight into how a narcissist truly thinks.. the jealousy and envy further fuels the self loathing and hate especially if the person’s wants and needs are never met…
As you point out, he needed serious therapy. Yet the mental health authorities described him as "extremely polite & no threat to himself or others." Anyone know what these people get paid for?
Kohberger has been linked to Elliott Rodger since his arrest. "Papa Rodger" in the discussion groups about the murders stating true facts not known yet to the public. They say he used Rodgers name because he is like a god to incels. You didn't watch this video 2 months ago and all of a sudden think of Kohberger after hearing Rodgers writings. Nice try on acting like you came up with this comparison all on your own though 😂
Guys if you think that a woman's love is the answer to all your problems, then you will never be happy. No one but you can make yourself happy. Happiness is a state of mind, not something that happens when the conditions are met.
Those are all material things. You think those make up for not having both parents disciplining and raising a child? I'm not justifying what he did at all. Just saying the world is upside down with the divorce rates and sleeping around and having babies as accessories... @@utubegirl00
I watched a psychologist doing an evaluation on another incel, and he summed them up better than anyone ive heard. When describing this dude he said "he focused on marketing instead of self improvement" .
I was thinking the same thing. He thought he was this shave, sophisticated gentleman. He made no attempt to cultivate positivity, confidence and caring and work on himself. If he had just stopped and listened to those tapes of his maybe he could have figured out girls didn’t want to be with him because he was a nasty, entitled horrible little narcissist.
Yeah, he focused on his expensive shirt in one vid. Meanwhile, Marlon Brando in a torn white T-shirt could draw the hot chicks... He forgot that. @@jenniturtleburger3708
I had selective mutism and got bullied throughout my whole school life, never had any friends. I feel like I am a nice person and care about others deeply, probably more than most people. I would never want to cause anyone harm. It just shows that there was something else at play in his brain as well as him just not being able to use logic.
If thats you in the pic, you're also a beautiful young woman. A mans reality, especially one that lets himself fall as low as this, is going to differ wildly from any female, society is not coming to help. Thats not to defend his actions, or the racism he was spewing midway thru the video, but its pointless to pretend you were in his shoes.
Id say he picked up a demon or 2. seen nefarious? great illustration of what the devil can do when he truly possess a human fully. what he said is true " I hate everybody " im sure he has separated himself from God forever what a shame......anotherone bites the dust.
I had a very similar experience growing up too. I have a diagnosis of Asperger’s but Selective Mutism is more accurate. You are brave and courageous. Thank you for sharing your story.
People tried to bully me a number of times in high-school, but I'm the type of person that is always cracking jokes and making people laugh. Everytime someone would pull some shit I would turn it back on them with jokes and they would get embarrassed and leave me alone or someone else would walk up thinking we was both playing around and they would just walk away.
“Jealousy and envy… those are two feelings that would dominate my entire life and bring me immense pain.” He’s not wrong when he says that. Just imagine what a little bit of love can do to someone, it’s sad.
Easy to label everyone and everything with "mentally ill" and "incel" to not dig into the depression and into the sadness of the society, and into the eternal fight that men have to afford every single day to the cruel natural selection that girls do... Let's say I can't tolerate the actions He did, but for sure I can understand him 100%
It really burns me that cops were so easily taken in by his "polite demeanor". That same scenario has been repeated in a number of mass-killings where just a few more questions by police and pressure to search the house would have given them probable cause for an arrest.
Yeah but then you live in a police state and you're breaking the 4th. Do you want your phone to be taken and searched without a warrant like in China? Go live there, there's rules for a reason.
@@tomaccino In China, you won't be in any way getting searched unless the police hold evidence that you sell pornography or commit wire fraud or whatever other crime. You're suggesting that Chinese students and scholars getting searched for no reason when crossing the US border is somehow legitimate just because they have a warrant from Donald Trump.
Wow… he really thought the world revolved around him and that people did things intentionally towards him even though people didn’t even know he was even around
That exactly was his problem: He knew they didn't know he was even around. Every young man wants to make a place for himself in the world, he wants to be respected and he wants to have friends and a woman to spend his life with. When that doesn't work out, he starts looking for reasons. What he doesn't look for, out of the societal conditioning that men don't show weakness, is help and support. And don't forget that adolescents can be very cruel to anybody who doesn't conform to their social norms. That mixture, combined with his selective mutism and his inability and lack of opportunity to communicate, let him to seek guilt and the reason for his situation in others and ultimately resulted in the tragedy that unfolded. The world can be very cruel to young men indeed, and sometimes it turns them into monsters. What can we do about it? Firstly, we need more help for young men, BY MEN. No young man, especially in a similar situation, is going to trust a woman, and he probably has a lot of valid reasons to not do so (female cruelty). Secondly, Society needs to become less competitive and fixated on money as the only reason and measure for success, and that can only be achieved by lessening the contrast between rich and poor. Thirdly, we need to regulate the access to weapons. They are just tools, but they are meant and built to kill, and that is what they are being used for.
@@joergmaass Sounds like a lot of excuses for this "polite, respectful, beautiful, magnificent gentalmen" who would go around and throw hot coffee on people.
You drive a BMW, your dad's rich and provides for you, you live in a nice part of California, AND YET you think you don't have enough? So many people would love to be in his place of having all this support. Crazy thing is this happened ten years ago this month... He should have been grateful it would have changed his life...
@PaulTheChristiansoldier if you are utterly miserable being rich, then you don't deserve it and need a reality check. that's some bullshit if you cant count your blessings. the ppl with the most privilege never realize what they truly have
It's a bit strange. When you think about it you are advocating his point. That having these material things should mean you're happy and therefore people should love to be in his place and therefore be with him. Having material things is something. Having good friends and family is a whole other thing. To me, he is a pitiful soul who lacked family and friends - and that's why he felt so empty regardless of how much more "stuff" he got.
@@tubbycustard8866 i think he was just very mentally unstable and narcissistic, he needed help early in life and didnt get it, but he is a bad person, dont get me wrong. but something was totally wrong in his brain.
What is so horrifying is that the police were told several times that he was a serious threat and yet they did not act properly. This could have been prevented with faster better investigative procedures and far clearer swifter communications with family, friends and those calling in because they saw his videos or read his manifesto. This should be investigated by an outside force and lessons learned. The police officers involved need more awareness and training ASAP !
You can't be a culture that arrests people we're going after people who are creepy otherwise you end up with pre-crime arrests and the civilization gets nuts the guy needed an intervention by police was not the answer
the problem seems to be that is a certaintype of girl that he was attracted to. I find it hard to believe that he was turned down by so many enough to make him think this. The other fault is him not even prolly going 50% of the way or give 50% of the effort and just expecting them to flock to him like a god. When it comes to going after something you want the ratio is approximately 90:10. You go in 90% then a majority of the time they will come the remaining 10. I don't know I saw it in a movie once lol "hitch"
I feel like even if he did get a girlfriend, he would be INCREDIBLY posessive, and probably put her down all the time. He obviously has this huge fantasy in his mind of who he is and what a girl *should be and should do* he would have never had a girlfriend for long. And if that girlfriend left, God help her. She would probably for sure be the target of his deep seeded hate. This guy was a ticking time bomb regardless of his situation IMO. Any girl that he got with he would probably see as lesser-than and try to mold her to some perfect sense of what he wants a woman to be. I truly think hes the type that he was on a path that could not end well. His mindset was too warped and he had this serious "main character" syndrome going on This was amazingly produced and researched btw. INSTANT subscribed. Cant wait to see what you come up with next!!
@QueerdoLocyeah if by God you mean a being that has to bend to his every will and desires the moment he demands it and also cut herself off from humanity to shield him from his paranoid jealousy then sure. But I certainly wouldn't wish that kind of Godly lifestyle to anybody.
i grew up with one of the victims christopher martinez from kindergarten all the way through high school. Not only was he just genuinely a great person he was also athletic and very book smart. i have a memory where him and i had detention together during lunch time in elementary school, i clearly remember our punishment was writing out sentences of our reason why we were in detention, i remember our teacher complimenting him on his excellent handwriting skills (seeing we were 9-10 years old at the time) for some reason it's something that's embedded in my brain i will never forget. i even remember the teacher who gave the compliment (Mrs. Hartwell) in school there's always certain crowds, popular kids, geeky kids, athletes, and from my memory chris was accepted by everyone due to his humble nature and kindness towards others. Very caring parents too, i remember them picking him up after school from the after school program. Todays my 30th birthday and chris deserves to be here celebrating his as well. The world needs more people like him.
The best video Ive seen on Elliot Roger. Seen 120+ over last 10 years or so. I rarely give compliments but this video is filled with psychological analysis, great clips, breaks of constant talking by showing clips in between. Having great harmony of both clips and narration. Hypnotically interesting. Intelligent to say the least.
I cant believe how absurd his hatred is. His videos literally sound scripted like a character from a movie. He was completely detached from reality and felt everything in life only affected him
before his vlogs he had years and years of his life full of rejections. why you people keep forgetting about it. And US laws are not making any easy for a guys to find someone at least "good enough". From very young age, majority eating disturbing food, developing unhealthy eat habits. So literally out of 100% US girls within your age range, - only 20% are good looking. How guys can "compete" on this market, - I don't know. Ugly people are literally everywhere in US.
Unfortunately his parents did everything but what he needed most. Instead of giving him money and things, moving schools they should have gotten him psychiatric assistance. That is what he needed. They knew something was wrong but threw money and sparkle at him. Very sad indeed
@@ReviewGuy-k2zhis parents obviously didn’t give him love. If they did. He would feel comfortable talking to them about his problems. In which they would be his counselors. I come from a very strict dad. Yet I was comfortable enough to talk to him about anything. Even when I got in trouble. He gave me the words I needed. Looks like the parents were more concerned with their careers than they were with this kid. He literally wasn’t taught anything. Just given things.
I was never popular with the ladies and it was depressing until I started seeing all the drama guys were going through. And then I was blessed with a lovely woman who truly loves me. His parents did everything you can do for a child. Sometimes you’re your own worst enemy.
Sure, but I hoped you understood, and were taught, that males around the world make the first move on a woman they are interested in ( I mean asking them on a date), and the potential for rejection is high. If you were not taught both by your parents, they could have done better.
Well although one thing we do not know is if he learned these tendencies from one of his parents. Generally it is the case. His only help was God Above but unfortunately he did not adhere to that Voice and he will face the Consequence in the here after, no doubt.
I was awkward and had no idea girls are into me actually. Figured this out during 2nd half of my first college year and it became too easy to get girls. However, I've been with a lot of girls and they are vicious and cruel. Many cheated on their bf without telling me they had one. Even had one engaged cheat with me, telling me she's engaged a day later, me ghosting her, her calling me a year later how she's pregnant with another bf she met after she broke up with fiance and telling me she wants to abort it and be with me! Nah, it's been five years how I'm willingly solo and I don't regret a single day.
Mate, this was an excellent piece of journalism. You should make more if you have it in you; you’ve got a real talent for writing and presenting. People obviously like what you make, too. This is, like, THE definitive Eliot Rodger documentary. Everything you need to know about his distorted views and horrendous crimes is here and presented with the necessary context and condemnation it deserves. Well done. Gladly subbed and excited to see more in the future 👍
I cant imagine this kid without money and struggling like the rest of us, working 16 to 18 hours eating instan soups some times, sleeping a few hours etc etc, looks like he never cross the line trying to be better himself, just selfish.
I struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts, and this really hit me hard. It sucks when you feel alone and have nowhere to go. I've learned to accept that things get better with time, even if it feels like time drags on forever. The only thing I've ever really wanted in life is love, and I'm still waiting to find it. However, as days go by I know I'm one step closer to overcoming it, no matter how hopeless I feel. I encourage anyone struggling to keep your heads up, the only limitations are the ones you set for yourself. The most important thing is to love yourself, I know it's hard sometimes, but keep at it. Good luck to everyone, and amazing (yet sad) video.
God loves you, he created you perfectly in his image, he sent his only begotten son to die on the cross to pay the price of our sins !!! He loves you and he is waiting for you, he wants to have a relationship with you, he will guide to to the life he has for you !!! Please seek him, it sounds unbelievable but he really is all you need when you put your trust in him !!! May God bring believers into your path so you can see and feel Gods love !!! God bless and keep you !!!
Get away from those religious people in the comments!. Just think, if you're a good person, you'll find eventually omeone. I never had problems finding partners, but I have no true friends, I think finding friends is harder than finding a girlfriend.
You won't find love if you obsess over it. Focus on becoming someone deserving of love. Trust me, I've been in your shoes before. Relationships are great, but if you take a step back you'd realize that life is so much more.
Keep going and do it for you. You deserve to enjoy life. Take it day by day but with goals or dreams to look forward too. And I agree with @kunchenliang8772 life is so much more than relationships.
It really makes you wonder what Elliott was doing to make people avoid/dislike him so much. Especially with being wealthy, dressing well, moving around a lot and then going to large colleges he really would have to be acting out to even garner enough attention to be picked on and generally avoided.
He was on the autism spectrum. High functioning, which used to be called aspergers syndrome when your that high functioning. The most intelligent people known to humankind had it, the list would shock most people, almost anyone whos ever furthered mankind's understanding and modern technology. It really just mainly affects the social aspect of autism at that point. if you've ever met anyone with aspergers, you'll understand why it was so hard for him. It becomes nearly impossible to have healthy relationships with anyone, let alone friends or a potential girlfriend. Aspergers has been referred to by some as the brains ability to unlock some of the "limitors" set in place to keep us together and sane, doing so allowing the individual to really think outside the construct that others have set in place as a means of explaining away things that aren't fully understood yet. It really allows them to utilize their brain in a way that most others couldn't even dream of. However in doing so it has to take away from other areas of the brain. The social aspect. I'm sure he was very intelligent, if he could have talked through his problems of society with someone that's job it is to listen and help change the course of his thought process, say a counselor, this tragedy may have been avoided. However.. some of the most intelligent murderers known in modern history are strikingly similar to him.. the zodiac was thought to be someone with aspergers. Many of his decoded ciphers sound exactly like this man's manifesto. One of the zodiacs ciphers took 55 years to decode, and was thought to be decoded only this year in 2024. Tens of millions of people all over the world tried to decipher his letters for over half a century. Einstein was no mass murderer but.. America may not have won ww2 without the atom bomb. The invention of Electricity, the discovery of the cell and dna, the invention of wireless electricity, nuclear energy generation, microwave radiation, the first computer ever invented, the smart phone as we know it today by the late Steve Jobs, and today we have Tesla a company that created one of the first electric battery powered self driving autonomous vehicles headed by Elon Musk. The list is endless and goes back much further than the invention of Electricity. This guy could have potentially done incredible things with his life, he just needed a therapist. His parents should have been able to see that.
It's the social mistakes of awkward boys/men and those with autism. They do things they don't understand are socially unacceptable. Or they talk differently. Don't make eye contact. Make too much eye contact. Stare at people/people watch. He was mute around others. Definitely even more creepy combined with these other behaviors I mentioned. Standing too close to someone unfamiliar is another. Touching someone when it's not socially acceptable to do so. . . There's probably others.
Holy shit, that was a good watch. I used to date someone sort of like narcissistic ig.., how eerie their voice can sound when they speak of themself as Godlike 🙄 On another note, Elliot and I share the same birthday! Born on the Leo Cancer Cusp, i see the leo in his constant cravings for attention, the arrogance in his train of thought, and the cancer shows from him being overpossesive/jealous, the meticulous thinking, even the isolation and miscommunication.. I hope this helps pyschiatrists, therapists, doctors, especially students as an aid because him recording everything like that, we could learn a lot from studying these video journals he put together...
Elliot had many things people don’t have in this world, bro get $1k allowance while many people work 60+ for only $700, bro had life made for him, and he blames just because he can’t get a girlfriend the world is so unfair, life isn’t about how you look, you don’t have to have the nicest things in life to pull off getting a bunch of girls. Watching this video I can hear in his voice the insecurity/unstable mentality. No “hot chick” wants to babysit a grown adult.
@@jessetreadway5249Where in the world do you live that min wage is only 7.50 hr?!? Its like 14.50 in my state going up to $15 on Jan 1st. Damn when I first began working 23 yrs ago min wage was 6.75 lol
People never see themselves as the problem. It HAS to be everything, anything else other than themselves. It's not just narcissists, it's sociopaths as well. They think they're the main character in this movie we call life. It's kind of like how a-holes don't ever see themselves as such; they justify their behavior as earned, or deserved. Most evil stuff done in history is because the person justified it in their head.
@@Zidbits Don't make the mistake of thinking it's all on him though. Intimidation is a savage thing. If these grieving kids in the crowd went back to school the week after to intimidate the next guy, then they didn't learn a thing.
@@Zidbits narcissism is a learned coping mechanism. remember how he was ruthlessly bullied all throughout his entire childhood? when the father was saying he partly wishes his son wasn't born, what i wished on his behalf is that his son could have had a more accepting environment as a child. the issue with narcissism is that while it IS highly treatable (unlike psychopathy), the sufferer has to recognize the behavior and desire help. however as you said one of the symptoms of narcissism is not seeing the repercussions of your actions/self victimizing. it's very much like a drug addiction in that way. no one can make you quit, you have to seek it out for yourself. unlike a drug addiction, it isn't a choice, but a reaction to trauma, usually as a child. it's rather tragic.
His mindset is so disturbing , the hate he has for himself and everyone around him , im aamzed he was not picked up way before he commited that horrendous act. He pretends to love himself but hes completwly empty inside
And that's the saddest part, no one picked up on it. Mental health is still a taboo subject in our society and the last to be picked up on. As one comedian said: "the problem with crazy people is, they don't know they're crazy" and others don't know what is going on in someone's brain. The thing is, they can contain themselves, until they can't and then they either snap and commit horrible crimes or they fall into a blithering mess. Many just don't see the build up, especially when they are socially distant, people will see bits and pieces and not able to piece together a puzzle.
@@utha2665 The people dont snap in the attacks , they snapped before, in their heads and they most likely have depression etc and dont give a fuck sbout anything and anyone so they want revenge and they want people to regret everything etc. Most murderers got treated like shit which led them to snap
You're kidding, right? The FBI knew about Nikolas Cruz months in advance and didn't do a damn thing. They knew he was making threats for months and allowed him to murder 17 people and injure 17. And this has happened in many so-called "mass shootings." I guarantee they knew everything about this poop stain and did nothing because that's what they do. Get a clue!
@@Quickyloopei Um, this is exactly what I said, read my post again. But there are people out there that are inherently evil and no amount of support will help them. I'm not saying this person was one of those people, we just don't know enough about him. To me, a layman, feel he had a personality disorder and couldn't self reflect, her just thought it was always someone else's fault. It's a complex field of which even the experts don't understand it all. Who knows what was going on in his brain, but I don't think it was due to what his parents did.
Elliot is the poster-child for narcissistic entitlement and weak character. He could have had as many women as he wanted if he were not a hollow shell of self-loathing and emptiness. He makes my skin crawl.
Being socially inept and starved of companion isn't fun, regardless how rich you are. That being said Elliot was incredibly narcissistic, expecting to want to mingle with ppl he preferred whilst rejecting the ones that did want to be his friend
it’s not really a very expensive car. back when elliot had his it would probably be worth 15-20k depending on mileage, nowadays that same bmw is worth 5k.
He could of also given people a chance to actually know him; rather than immediately becoming jealous and writing everyone off. Just such a disturbing story, all those innocent people who deserved better.
@@classicjonesy He was a psychopath, so he was all superficialities and empty inside. No one could have got to know him. Because of his personality defects, he had nothing to offer.
@@Missditabomb I hate how overused word "psychopath" is. Most psychopaths are perfectly able to fake emotions and fit in. They are often extremely charismatic too. Elliot was entitled underdeveloped narcissistic sociopath with maybe a touch of psychopathy. But far from true, full blown psychopath.
he could have gone to dating coaches, there's so many good ones that guide you to develop an attractive personality in a way that brings out the best version of yourself. This guy should have been put down from the first video he made. It was clear he had no intention of fixing his issue but rather taking it out on others. You can't force someone to like you or find you attractive. That's life we all experience it. What you can do is work on yourself become the most attractive version of yourself.
As someone who had no friends, and nothing going right in my life and looking around and seeing everyone doing so well and having many friendships. I can relate to the beginning of this, I haven't watched the end yet but I can't relate with how this turns to harming others; I was very depressed and lonely but found friendship online which dragged me through my younger life and once I grew older I more self reflected on how I can find new groups and meet people and set the immediate opinion of me by talking to new people and introducing myself vs sitting in silence fearing rejection. That was the biggest best change of my life, deciding to take action and not hide from others and come out of my shell no matter the consequences. You lose 100% of the friendships you take no action to make, I remember being so closed off inside the first people I spoke to just saying hi was painful, and I couldn't say much else or sustain a conversation as I never knew how... and those people aren't my friends anymore but they reciprocated and tried their best to sustain a conversation so if you ever lonely closed off talk to people... it's sounds obvious and stupid especially as fear will drive you away but always remember if you talk to people outdoors at random you'll likely never see them again anyway so they're great people to practice social skills on there's no repercussions. That being said the world could be a nicer place, all I wanted when I was younger was just one friend someone who I could talk to... and no one ever approached me the quite kid. If we all just noticed said hi, asked about their day we'd be more connected. I always say hello to quite person as an adult these days yes they'll be weird at least at first but you'll massively improve their quality of life. Me personally... I no longer gauge my life against the success of others on a daily basis anymore as it unhealthy and pushes that mental self harm an extra step, however I have moments of weakness where I gauge my social skills and see myself as 10 years behind my peers in life but I tell myself that's okay! I'll find my true place in life and succeed.. all I need to tell myself is if I want something to achieve something... I just need to work towards it, build a plan to overcome a fear, force myself to say hello to someone I like or invite someone I know out to a place. If it doesn't work out it's not the end of the world, it wasn't meant to be and other opportunities will come life is never a dead end it's filled with many branches of opportunities when door closers another will open. Stay mentally healthy my friends, and if you ever feel like you need to do something like the above video please channel that energy into pushing yourself against your fears, and setting small goals. Don't set the goal as a girlfriend by end of next year set it as a work friend, casual acquaintance etc and take baby steps towards where you want to be in life... talk to one random stranger every day for a year on the bus stop; yes that seems weird but you'll improve your social skills to build and maintain friendships in the future.
A reminder to us parents… guide, love, give quality time, help them to make friends and let us be a good example to our kids. Don’t let money do the parenting. Let us be responsible because aside from raising a child, our child is our contribution to society… how we raise them will affect the people around them. Be there, answer their questions and ask them “how are you?”. Find happiness on becoming a responsible parent not selfish for own happiness. Sad to see this video… but these makes me appreciate the less fortunate kids (financially) but love their life. Humbled and appreciative of the time they have in this world. Peace is the real source of happiness. Prayers for everyone.
Good to see no girls ever gave him a chance, he was so dangerous. Actually he didn't want any relationship with women. He just want sex and it was all their faults not coming to sleep with him. His reason was weird enough! 😅
I have NPD myself, and this definitely gives off the vibes of unmedicated and untreated narcissistic personality disorder. We are not evil people, just have troubled minds and need help
@@MsNocell narcissism is a learned coping mechanism to deal with trauma, usually that suffered as a child. the guy was ruthlessly bullied his entire childhood, and who knows what home life was like. he sounds like he has some form of autism, which comes with it's own slew of issues such as social anxiety, depression, failure to fit in with society. he needed friends who actually cared about him, instead of what was most likely commiserates on 4chan. he wasn't a psychopathic evil monster, he had a lot of baggage that wasn't being dealt with until it was much too late.
"To be interesting, you need to be interested" - The best advice I've heard when it comes to worrying about why people aren't interested in you. Just be interested in things (other then other people) and eventually you'll meet someone because they will find you interesting.
He was talking to us on Yahoo Messenger. ? What can you do in a chat? He wanted us t o like his car maybe sunglasses and all. Sure, we are interested in film making and like nice cars and all of that. Nice clothes. ? We could have talked to him more or ? He seemed to think money impresses us. And ? he was talking about cultural things on his travels in Europe. His dad told him to stop being so weird talking about cultural things all the time or he never wuold meet a girlfriend. Cultural things? What does that even mean? He told us about everything that's in all of these videos. Going to that other country and visiting friends in Europe and things like that. It was him. Same nicknames on Yahoo we remember all of that.
This guy is the embodiment of the idiom; personality over looks, he was a genuinely handsome guy. But it's clear being in his presence put everyone off. Terribly sad. His parents have a lot to answer for.
Your remark about his parents is spot on. It is never an excuse, but parental abuse, rejection, abandonment and neglect are enormously traumatizing to any child, and can result in the type of condition, and subsequent destructive rage, Elliot had. It’s a horrible, immensely sad story that should have been prevented. The fact that his parents weren’t aware of what was brewing until way too late, says it all in terms of their failure, because that lack of interest and engagement was apparently their modus operandi. Elliott is fully responsible, but his parents are heavily complicit.
@@VonDutchNL below average is ugly. He was an above avg looking dude, you can be a lot less attractive and get girls. Personality is everything and dude was simply a disillusioned weirdo. Quite telling that all his roommates were also asain and he didn't even vibe with them.
Idk ppl are so quick to blame parents.. but he's an adult at this point who is responsible for his own actions and has every advantage to make his life good. I'd take my parents totally ignoring me with all the advantages he had over what I was given. His parents kept him fed, safe, and gave him every advantage to make something out of himself. I don't blame them at all
No, his parents don't have a lot to answer for. It was pretty obvious that parenting was clearly NOT the issue. I hate when ppl just come at the parents because of their son/daughters actions, simply not fair. You also have to remember, they lost their child too, regardless of how vile he was. That is not the person they knew. There are just sum really fvcked up ppl in this world who play the victim card their entire lives, even when they clearly are the furthest thing from a victim. This scumbag was one of those people.
The worst part is that if he just dropped the incel attitude and actually talked to women, he probably would’ve gotten a girlfriend and gotten his life turned around. He’s not even a bad looking dude, but he made himself ugly with this horrid personality
@Fred.Carpenter Better to have be stupid and have a heart than being narcissistic, self entitled and have no heart. There is no love in a person with no heart
It’s crazy how he felt others were trying to make him jealous while they were trying to do their own thing. How did he expect girls to like him while claiming to be sophisticated and not opening up to them? This is messed up!🤨🤨🤨
Fun fact, I had the same issues as Elliot growing up, I also had very bad thoughts and I could not for the life of me speak when in a social setting, but with family I could, unless it's indirect family. I also often lock myself in my room, and have very wild day dreams that from a third persons perspective makes me look crazy, my siblings always made fun of that part of me. I'm the odd one out and I'm always alone. The difference is, I chose not to be cruel or inflict others with pain just because I was in pain... In addition, he has wealth, something that he can use to make himself better, I didn't have resources, I couldn't afford mental care, I fixed myself by observing and understanding what's right and what's wrong. I can speak comfortably now, I can make friends, and I've reached a very comfortable position in life. It's a choice, the mental issues and stress in life doesn't lead you to do that... He chose to care more about his own pain than consider the idea that others might be going through the same thing. What he has is not mental disorder, but a bad case of self-loathe. He chose to do that and he should suffer the consequence at it's fullest.
I'm so glad to hear that you took a different approach and worked hard to help yourself get through the darkness. I commend you and acknowledge how difficult that must have been! 🫶🏼💕
We had one in Australia named Sef Gonzales. His upper middle class parents gave him a university education and a car. He didn't want to work or work hard at studying. He wanted the estate and considered himself a pop singer. He murdered his parents and sister.
He was trapped inside his head, and his perception of reality was so warped. His insecurities manifested in narcissism. This is a sad case for all involved. I hope we can improve mental health care for minors. We need to care for children before they become adults and their minds are harder to change. Condolences to all of the victims.
Most autistics are narcissists. I am one and I recognise it. The thing is,,,there's apathetic, empathetic and sadistic narcissism Empathetic narcissists are easily manipulated as the feel a divine responsibility to save serve or just prioritise, everyone other than themselves. I suspect this guy is sadistic. Plus he had a high rejection dysphoria which is also a common trait with autism.
Ive watched this same story about twice before, but I literally felt like it was the first time hearing it because of how good you narrated it !! Keep up the great work!!
this kid had NO IDEA how REALLY unfair this world really is, its disgusting to think about, he had a wonderful life he never ever knew hardship or UNFAIRNESS he must have been very mentally ill as you say since he was a kid and parents didnt see that so he never saw a therapist who might have helped but not sure i mean how can you help someone who thinks he was meant to win a lottery ticket of 650 million dollares? he was shattered he really thought he was going to win, thats a serious mental issue
I wonder if he ever approached any girls. He's a good-looking, well-spoken guy, he could get first dates with the minimum of effort. I suspect perhaps he never spoke to any girls, and then blamed the girls for not throwing themselves at him.
It's sad anyone ever feels like this, but there's no excuses for what he did. He had enough money to get help and figure out his issues rather than let them stir into a Tsunami 😢😢😢
What's even worse is he is a good looking guy. There's no reason why he couldn't be able to get a girlfriend. Maybe if he spent as much time trying to talk to girls as he did whining, he might have found someone. He expected women to search HIM out. Also, why didn't he just go on some dating app?
@@IdahoRanchGirl It sounds like he had problems with forming relationships from early on, and as said, he was teased/bullied by girls at one point and not accepted by the cool kids even though he thought his wealth would be a free pass. So, I'd guess coming back from this to a 'healthy' outlook wasn't possible, especially when you get constant negative feedback online and no group of friends to fullback on. Being 'normal' is not a switch you can just flip on and off. I'd say with his problems a dating app and any rejection wouldn't have helped. People like this have always been in or cast out of society...ever seen the film Carrie? But society will not believe they had any part in this...
I know exactly what you mean but, having been inexplicably like him in my youth, it's impossible to just snap out of it. The expression you use is quite ironic because money wouldn't stop an actual tsunami, and when self-loathing hatred is imbedded within your heart, soul, psyche, or whatever, there is no cure. I'm all grown up, loved and respected now, but I'm still haunted by cringe moments and hatred of bullies in my past.
His family did try from what I take from the story. As far as having a partner there is no right anyone has to demand one. The whole story is unfortunate don't get me wrong but it's nonsense at the same time. He looked 13 in a world of mature college men and women, not his fault but that didn't entitle him to special treatment. It's just life, either you find a way to navigate it or you don't.
I have met a guy like him. It was creepy to just sit next to him. He didn’t wanted a girlfriend but a servant that was going to cook, clean and bare his kids. He was keeping saying that he was the most perfect man, well dressed and with money.. what people don’t understand it’s that if you don’t attract people, the problem is not always because you’re not physically attractive, but it might be your personality. But if you’re a narcissist person, you’ll never realise it. And the fact that many men here are emphatic with him saying that we (women) created this monster, you can see where the real problem is
This!! Seriously terrifying. And they make fun of us for going to the bathroom together and mad about us saying “sorry I have a boyfriend.” We could literally be killed for saying “no thanks” WOMEN DONT OWE YOU SHIT. We have every right to be left the fuck alone and not find you attractive.
@@morgancollier8783 completely agree. He also told me he didn’t like animals because “they don’t take care of you when you’re older” and “I would not like to have my house dirty because of animals”, made me realise that he only saw people as his own possessions. The eventual wife or kids were just a possession. He was 42, and luckily didn’t had any kids.. I didn’t had any problems in understanding why. I am 36, single, because I didn’t met yet the person that wants to have a commitment. So reading “I’m single because women have high standards” it’s so stupid 🙄
You're forgetting the reason why he has a deep hatred towards women was because if you didn't listen to the documentary. He was bullied brutally when he was young by a group of girls and it only got worse when they rejected or bullied him continously throughout his life. Some kids brush it off, others hold a grudge. Again this is no excuse to have the thought process of what he has but still for someone mentally broken as him, it makes sense. Same like how depression for me doesn't make sense and is a western concept of weakness but here we are. What you met was a normal guy who hated women. Full stop. Elliot obtained hatred from past trauma. It has nothing to do with your "nice guys" and your assumption of "He was one of those guys". Edit: 36 and single, that would explain you more than the people you meet. And if you've been in many relationships and had problems constantly, it's your choice in men. So all I'm seeing is "I'm 36 and a sleezebag". Commitment has nothing to do with it, you can easily walk into a bar, club, establishment and flirt with the ugliest-most average guy there and there's a good chance they might be the perfect husband despite what they look like. Men have it harder, it's already proven. Women, no matter how ugly, obese, disease ridden, they can always find a partner. And I mean always. Men have to have a status, a certain attractiveness, a certain income to even be considered an option by even the most average looking woman. So the statement "Single women or women in general have high standards" is mostly true.
@@S30S30Ayumi of course I had listened otherwise I wouldn’t have commented. You probably have no knowledge of psychology and it’s fair, but sometimes people are born with problems from the very beginning. If you listened to the documentary, you’d know that his own family knew he had problems but didn’t know how to help him, shortly. A lot of people get bullied, but not all of them turn out to be killers. And lol, I like how you judge someone over the internet 😂 where I wrote I had many relationships? Because I haven’t. Bet you’re a man.
6:25 His problem is not social anxiety, but rather his Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He hits most of the major markers based on the little that we have here. 1. Everything that he does or happens to him is vastly overblown. Not “my life doesn’t seem fait.” No. “The WPRLD is not fair (what happens to him is the whole world in his mind. Combine that with grandiose thought an you understand why he chose to delete others. He didn’t hare them. They probably annoyed him, and so they became bit players in his grand finale.
Haha, every time I play, rarely play it now, I always think I'm going to win. It's probably a universal thing. Most people think that, or dream up stuff they are going to do when they win.
Meanwhile he was literally rich and got a thousand-dollar allowance like what, weekly? He bragged about his 300$ glasses, too. Switched schools constantly and was able to afford his own car. He had no concept of his privilege.
Meh. I'm used to it. Problem is that some people are genuinely intelligent but don't learn how to recognize it. He had to open his mind to realize that there are going to be women out there who legitimately choose a worse option when all the information is available to them, then the tragedy switches to a comedy. You can live the rest of your life roasting others instead of murdering them. It is sad, but what's more sad is when someone doesn't overcome it.
@@user-fp6rn2km4i bro he has personality disorders. Environment? His dad and step mom made sure he received higher education, gave him a lot of money and freedom. Most of the kids from this type of environment turn out to be peaceful people
I currently work with someone with severe mental health problems, and have been present for two of their complete emotional breakdowns. Multiple co-workers and I have expressed concern many times to management with no action. I wish red flags were absolutely taken seriously.
@philn5703 You're writing about it in YT comments. Can't just expect people to not be curious and ask questions. You never know who's lives you could be saving by making sure those red flags are taken seriously. Please, for the potential safety of yourself, co-workers, and others, speak louder! Be heard! Because what's worse, doing something about it and being wrong or doing nothing about it and being right?
is it only teenagers who think people that work should act perfect all the time or get fired? life is complex and difficult, please don't pretend you have a degree in psychology or social work and diagnose 'severe mental health problems' and tell on them after seeing someone cry at work. You did your part and spoke up, now back off and mind your business. Someone having a complete emotional breakdown sounds like a woman to me and women are 99.9% less likely to shoot people up than men so move along. People love getting people fired, they get huge boners from it. You do realize everyone has to work to eat and have a roof over their head so maybe adjust your perception and learn to be a little kinder. *Holding in your emotions* can be more detrimental to your mental health. Something like 80% of people bullied at work are probably women. Testosterone seems to make people more violent, it's primarily men who commit violent acts, something like 98% of violent acts are by men historically. Why would you alert management about something you're afraid of, then be pissed they did nothing, if you're not just trying to ruin someone's life? You don't REALLY think your coworker that's naturally stressed by an uncaring, pressure filled, cutthroat, competitive, male-loving environment is going to shoot you do you
Here, let me show you the difference between actually caring about someone and just trying to get rid of someone who makes you look bad because you suck at your job: Caring: be kinder to the person, ask if they need help with anything they're working on, pitch in and help them with dumb annoying things everyone hates to do to help take some of the load off, stay a few extra minutes to help clean up mutual work spaces, listen to them talk, really listen. Trying to get rid of someone because they make you look bad and you suck at your job: Alerting management after seeing someone cry and suggesting they should be fired for having mental health issues because you know almost nothing and are super afraid so you just push them out. Literally every person who snaps has this long history of feeling shunned and mistreated. Society's solution the entire time was to push them out of the inner circles then act surprised when they snap. *Hey wow society can actually prevent this!* Be kinder to outsiders even when you don't understand them. Be more helpful. Learn to be a good listener. These things are not difficult yet people act like it's so super hard because all they care about is being part of the popular or powerful group. Not having hierarchies like this would help too. Stop telling outsiders they are not part of the group just because you've not sought to understand them or you're afraid. You being afraid is your problem to solve, not the person you're trying to eject from the environment. Work on yourself!
i feel like i just watched a full documentary. dude you did an amazing job with this video. keep it up you clearly got a talent for it.
Thank you so much!!
@@To.Catch.A.Killer HEY, your buttons are glitchy. When I hit the Share button, it made it a downvote! Yesterday I noticed videos with no Share button...now it's back, but the icon's got a number that's apparently wired to the downvote. So YT's crack team of geniuses has been fiddling around with them.
@@Susie_Floozie happening all over youtube lol
He's no Gentleman if throws hot coffee at a couple
U did watch a full documentary, wtf u talking about?
The fact he thought that couple was sitting there “just to make him jealous” is insane. This guy really thought the world revolved around him in the worst kind of way.
He had Aspergers syndrom. Should have brought up in this video.
@@peterhammer6915 that was blindingly obvious
@@alexandershing are you an expert on Asperger?
@@peterhammer6915 wasn't meant as a dig, so no need to get aggressive.
However watching the whole documentary, I would, given what I know of the trademarks of someone with that condition, he would be?
@@peterhammer6915
I don't think it's relevant to the grave crime he committed and how pitiful of a human being he was. No excuse.
He gets $1,000/mo for an allowance, drives a BMW, and complains life is so unfair.
Exactly, he’s such a narcissist
@bulkvanderhuge9006 I totally agree with you
Because he had mental issues from birth
@@jorgejiminez-rk1uu and, what’s your point? He’s obviously mentally ill.. sad stuff
Proof money doesn't buy happiness
The funny thing is that he was actually a good looking dude. The fact that he didn't get girls would have been purely down to the fact that he acted weird and creepy.
he was quite short tho
@@illunationbut wealthy
how exactly is this funny to you? ironic? maybe, but not funny
@@illunation he was 5'9 which aint even bad
idk without shoes im 5'9 too but its hard for me to even get noticed, i get compliments for my face ok, but when the girl is not 1 head shorter or the same height as me i got no chance@@quakewyd.
Its actually insane how even his handwriting deteriorates as he slowly descends into madness
Fr
“I’m a gentleman! I’m sophisticated. BRB gotta throw my coffee on that happy couple”
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Complete narcissist who didn’t get help
LMAO. Yep, A real looney that one is.
@@federalagent7334nah. It’s not because of his looks… he’s not ugly. It’s because of his personality. You actually sound insane defending his behavior. There’s no excuse to kill anyone.
That is crazy to think about. Imagine going out with your partner to watch a beautiful sunset, completely oblivious to the fact that just 20 ft behind you is someone who wants you dead just for being there when he was. Jesus.
That’s a wild point.
I was thinking about that bruh 💀
He's probably at the pinnacle of the growing number of people who are ungrateful for what they have!
You mean my partner on the force, cowboy? I haven’t been a cop for a few years now.
buy a clue @@fogpumas
"I dont know what they don't see in me." A soul to start with.
Spooky.😲
You can’t see a soul ;)
Could what they DO see.
Because it doesn't exist.@@PlagueDoctorscp049
He wasn’t even unattractive, so it must’ve been his personality
Bro really made winning the lottery his career plan lmao
Then got absolutely raging that he didn’t win. Like he was meant to 😂😂 the little fool was so shallow and delusional he thought being super rich would fix his happiness. This guy was always gona end up hating the world no matter what and dying or ending up in prison.
@@COJY06 I found that part fascinating. He already had the cars and the money, and still couldn't get girls to flock to him. So his next plan was to just acquire even more money lol. Crazy thing is, he could have just become a passport bro and get laid as much as he wanted abroad. But it seems like acceptance was what he wanted. He wanted people to accept him for who he is, while having a very toxic personality.
Extreme entitlement. Literally expected to win the lottery despite the outrageous odds.
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Dude had every advantage in life. He has no one to blame but himself.
ikr Loaded and well connected parents 1000$ pocket money per month with BMW sounds like he didn't try to go to a whore and yet the logic isn't really that hard to follow when he puts the entire world into perspective most know the painful facts of society
You can't compare problems of one with those of another. You talk about money, but money doesn't buy love and love is what makes the world go round. Plus, to have famous parents while being socially awkward yourself will only make you less and less confident about yourself. Yet atst it gave him a sense of superiority which isn't a good emotion either because it's the other side of inferiority. His emotions therefore went all over the place. And you mention his parents but who says his parents gave him attention or love? It doesn't look like anyone ever told him that if girls don't talk to you, it might mean they are in love with you. The $1000 a month can also be felt like buying your love. Sometimes all people need is a little bit of attention and love. People in the west for example claim that Africa is a poor country but I think the west is poor. When I see videos of Africa I see people dancing and having friends and surrounded by nature often and when I see videos of the west it's often betrayal, racism, people claiming "go away, this is my country" or superficial "beauty" videos. People who think it's an advantage to get $1000 a month are probably rich theirselves, just a little bit less.
That's a very selfish comment. The one thing (most important) missing was parental guidance and some love, he got neither. He needed help but his parents weren't there for him. Brought up in a material world thinking you are gonna win the lottery or you're rich and deserve it, is not how the world works. I wonder do his parents share your view? We will never know..
@@SuperOMARKOthis guy is nothing but a narcissistic psychopath.
Yep, that's sounds like Spoil brat
It’s not like he’s ugly, he just acts so creepy, cringy and narcissistic he scares people away. Imagine dinner conversation with him, “look, check out my $300 Georgio Armani glasses. I’m so sexy with them on! How can you possibly resist me?”😅
exactly. everyone knew he was creepy
women can see it right away
@@LittleFlower06 Even the incels who "relate" to him. Imagine having a conversation with him as a woman. He won't treat you like a human at all.
His issues was he was playing the money game without enough money.
If evil ugly thugs like El Choppo can get a hot girl than this guy could to he just needed more money.
I am poor and ugly that is why i will never get a girlfriend. But unlike him I know it is all my fault for not being good enough because I know girls hate poor ugly guys.
Swear. 😂 The definition of pointing at everything but your personality.
it's just amazing how self-aware he was in his writings and yet his only solution was to committ the mass murders. he wasn't a bad looking kid either. he kept complaining about not getting any hot girls. he's too much into himself and his ego to actually have a relationship with anyone.
He didnät have a good example growing up. By the age of 9, he knew that if you had enough money you could by any gil you want, based on what his father did. I dont think it is his ego, it is more a broken few on reality of the relationship between man and a woman. His father tought or explained him nothing.
@@ayahgrig9218 I think the same things as you. A lot of these people who grow up to be killers had a childhood void of emotional support from their parents. It's funny how you can grow up rich and still be a mess of a person with bad character. There is no monetary replacement for a good set of parents to follow and provide structure for your life and emotional support -- telling your kids that having these feelings is ok but at some point you have to find out why you have these feelings and deal with them in a positive way. It's ok to feel jealous. It's ok to have "bad" thoughts but it is definitely not ok to act on them.
I have a feeling he didnt even attempt to talk to girls and probably thought girls should just come up to him. He seems very introverted and would likely not have made the first move.
@@jackshollenberger8904 how can he even attempt to make a first move when the girls bullied him to fit in with the popular kids just because he's the alone kid
@@Selendeki he's not ugly looking enough to dissuade girls from talking to him if he were to approach them. he is not a supermodel in looks but he's not the way you describe.
Creepy hearing his voice reading his private journal and manifesto. Artificial intelligence is insane man.
Im pretty sure he recorded himself
@@ashleynicole018the reading of the notes itself is ai.
He would never make it with a woman he would make her life a living hell with his jealousy and possessiveness
That was my thought. This "gentleman" would've just abused a girlfriend anyway unless she gave him attention 24/7. He was doomed to be a murderer.
@@reignman30exactly
Questionable. He was jealous because he didn't have what others had. Ifnhe had the same, it's possible that he wouldn't have been jealous. We will simply never know
@@Igoriannno he had serious mental issues. He would not have been normal if he had girlfriends lol
Also applies to the dad. That sounds like the root of it.
Listening to him talk is exhausting.
Yeah and also scary
@@Sophiiaslifestylethe music is scary, he's just pathetic
His laughing for retribution day was creepy. Scary enough he was going to carry out later !
Reminds me of Luka Magnotta
He is a psychopathic brat.
Huge sense of entitlement. It's as if he expected women to throw themselves at him. He claimed they never gave him a chance but I doubt he even tried talking to them.
My exact thought on this. He thought his looks and stuff was enough. No need to put any more effort into building a connection to someone.
That one clip where he drives right by 3 girls looking right into the car. He drives right by like a scared little boy. With that car and money I would've easily stopped and talked to all 3. I've gotten girls with much less
He refused to talk to women. If you read his story about his final "huge" attempt to get laid, he basically stares and stands next to girls at a party. That's it. He literally expected girls to just take him by the hand and have sex with him. He eludes to this several times.
he never asked himself once that he may be the problem and blamed everything on girls for not liking him.
Anyone that has to say that he's sophisticated, is anything but...
What’s crazy is he’s not an ugly guy so if his personality wasn’t so repulsive he’d probably have no problems finding a girlfriend
Yup, above average looks, somewhat affluent, but a total mental mess. If nothing else he could have became a passport bro and had all the girls he wanted abroad. Then again I don't think that would have cured his need for being accepted by his peers.
The money alone should have gotten him some female attention. There's gold diggers out there. He scared any partner away.
@@RobertStaudt-w9k Gold diggers are only attracted to guys willing to spend money on them. He was probably greedy and selfish
this is genuinely the craziest example of how far narcissism can drive you, that I've seen.
i agree with that one. it’s honestly terrifying & so cringe
I think it’s this, and how our society makes external validation so desirable. The dude clearly lacks any form of self awareness and is a victim of mimetic desire as a result. If he had any form of meaning derived from himself, he probably could’ve gotten past this.
@@neetfreek9921 you worded it so perfectly!!
Kid needed some heavy duty therapy. I mean, if you do not like the way things are going change your MO. So the kid does not like being an incel, OK, try to be a decent human being and you will be pleasantly surprised at the results.
no its paranoia and delusions
This should be a case study in mental pathology. It's crazy how one disturbed mind can wreak havoc on so many people's lives.
You just described human history my guy
the touch of a woman would've avoided this
@@juliogarcia9738 - Was never gonna happen.
@@deathmagneto-soy dude had some cash and was decent looking. I'm sure he could've found someone willing to give him some top
The craziest thing is how someone who was so obviously disturbed as Elliott Roger could legally buy 4 handguns and use them to wreak havoc on so many people's lives. I will never understand why Americans are so adamant about their constitutional right to own guns. PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE.
I went to the same high schools with him. He used to hangout by where my group used to.
I have a few corrections:
1. Elliot had Asperger’s. Our principal made it a point to tell my group of friends so we could try to include him.
2. He changed schools(1st time around) bc in like the first few days he froze in the cafeteria for almost the WHOLE day before anyone really noticed. He just stood there with his eyes all big hugging his backpack for dear life.
3. People didn’t bully him. People didn’t even notice him bc he NEVER spoke. Like ever. Even to the teachers. He would barely make eye contact. If you were a women/girl, the chances were even less.
4. He was SUPER into WoW. He would kill people in the game and camp over their bodies. He thought it was funny to watch them look for their stuff.
5. His mom was nice and pretty hands on.
After high school and this happened we were all so shocked. We didn’t know just how much he hated us.
WOW Spook, your dot points spell out a very, very insecure troubled dude? i have only got to :18.15, an already i can sense his final acts of rage. Stay strong Spooky, from an ole Aussie hippie of the 70s, when all we thut about was surf, sharing life wit yo lady, shootin pool an puffin some good bush to the doors, eagles, jackson browne, neil young, dan fogelberg an even neil diamonds "Hot August night." CHEERS 😍
Woah, that’s crazy
That wins most relevant/interesting comment of the day - thanks for the input to this.
What's a wow?
@@nagahumanbeingzooofparticl8836World of Warcraft a video game
“Why is that person filming” had me dead af at 13:35
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They had no idea they played with fire right there 😆
Lucky girls
As an avid true crime watcher, this video was incredibly narrated and done. I’ve seen several about Elliot because his case is one I can’t wrap my mind around but this one still held my attention start to finish
Thank you so much!
did you have another channel before this? This seems like you have way too much expertise in this to only have 259 subs.@@To.Catch.A.Killer
Your lips are so cute!!! I want em :)
I was going to comment the same thing!👍👏
Elliot has won my award for the biggest Loser ever conceived in planetary history. He's repulsive.
Bro is the definition of "how can you love anyone else if you dont love yourself"
That sounds like narcissism.
These and incel dudes need to realize that high-school girls are trash and that life only begins after graduation.
@@72tadrian65 Life went in one complete downwards spiral after 'high school'. (I'm from Belgium, so it's not called 'middle school' and 'high school' here). Sure I've suffered during high school as well, I've been in and out of psychiatry since 15 years of age.
But that structure and fun of being at a boarding school in high school, to the sudden increased difficulty, independence/need for self liability, and loneliness of college sucked *ss.
High school wasn't great, but it certainly was WAY better.
But that differs from person to person I guess.
@@kjell159 The problem with a lot of these dudes is they need a sexual outlet. Anyone can go online and buy 48kg of silicone and steel that looks and feels exactly like a gorgeous woman. That way when they talk to a real woman, they don’t come off thirsty. Nothing turns off a woman more than a thirsty dude.
He's not your 'bro' ffs.
Elliot was nothing more than an over privileged mixed up,deeply disturbed man.
RIP The innocents.
Not taking away from his dispictable actions....But this is Mental Illness that was neglected by him & his family.
Doesnt matter who you are ( just like Cancer) this doesnt discriminate..And I agree with you but sometimes you have to think outside the box.
The innocents can't read this bub.
"We Know"
Fyi im referring to your pfo
His mental illness is that he was a psychopathic-narcissist... true psychopathy is a trip, the lack of empathy can't really be fixed, it's a hard wired neurological problem. Some psychopaths learn to navigate and fake empathy, mimick emotions and all that, but they are always psychopaths. Interestingly, a high number of CEOs and higher ups in corporations are legit psychopaths, it takes someone with no empathy or that can deny their empathy and humanity to reach those positions. I imagine his parents didn't really help the situation much, they just threw money at him. Maybe they did, but who his father was makes it unlikely.
I don’t think he ever even tried to make friends or approach women. He genuinely just expected some beautiful woman to come up to him and ask to be his girlfriend.
100 percent even if a girl gave him a chance...he would become a stalker
and if she would break up with him he would still go on his killing streak
I don't know. Certainly, there was a point of no return for him. If he had gotten a girlfriend in high-school, things might have been different. He needed, love, attention, and socialization at a young age.
That was lucky no girls ever fallen in love with him. He was just as dangerous as Richard Ramirez, a handsome young man but a psycho killer !
@@danielallan8061 I partly agree. He needed love, attention and socialisation. But I think things must've went wrong much earlier for him.
Once sitting on a terrace in a busy street, a man approached me to talk to me, my instinct was sending me signals "he's dangerous, be careful" but I preferred to take the risk of listening to him. I said "I listen and you can talk to me" he spoke to me for maybe 30 minutes, I didn't necessarily want to listen to him but my intuition told me that I was making the right choice. Then before leaving he said to me "Thank you for your ears because I've had a traumatic month and I was going to do something seriously horrible today that I was about to regret later."
That’s so terrifying 😭
As some one with many mental health issues including personality disorder I want to say thank u . Yes I won't lie we can be dangerous but that's usually the last last straw ... not saying we should all go say hey ect but if u didn't try many things many loves or the person life very well could been well gone forever.
Lucky for many unless it doc ect I live breath sleep in my home don't leave unless very nessersery
@Jess..
I completely agree with you, thank you for your answer because I also suffer from personality disorder, I was beaten by my father and my mother, two drugs that raised a nice child like me and who m They made me live a nightmare until I was 18. I was sometimes beaten with slaps in the face, and even on the breasts, especially if they were in a powerful surge under the influence of drugs and alcohol. My mother was a violent, tyrannical, unpleasant, vulgar alcoholic, and my father was submissive to her. But he was also very unstable, very easily influenced and very mentally fragile. The most impressive thing for me is that they asked me for forgiveness on their knees 15 years later. I think it was the thing that touched me the most in my life, it made me cry and cry, it relieved me of a huge weight, of the hatred and rage that I felt. Now I continue to love them But I don't hang out with them, I avoid them because I still have a wound in my soul that hasn't healed.
@Jess
I wish you a recovery, I also take xanax to go outside cause I have agoraphobia, panicky attack as well. But sometimes I take my xanax and I feel better, but that thing makes me sleep a lot like a bear.
Being a gentleman is something observed by others not something self proclaimed.
We know. These are the ravings of someone who has gone mental
yes, he is clearly very very dumb
A vile, narcissistic, pathetic creature!
100 percent
As with all virtues.
The most important thing American's need to understand is that mass shootings like this are ALWAYS linked to the perpetrators childhood. I couldn't find much about his life when he was young but I know his parents divorced when he was 7. This didn't come out of nowhere. Elliot probably experienced years of tension, stress and fighting when he was going through his most vulnerable developmental stages. He most likely didn't get the mirroring and echoing that he needed from his mother to bond with her, this is where the intense hatred of women comes from. His mom may have been very critical of him at a young age, which he internalized and this became like an inner message playing on repeat. He couldn't get away from "you aren't good enough." His mother also probably had that message given to her when she was young. That's how generational trauma works.
If we want to stop these kinds of things from happening we have to change our culture to teach everyone how to heal their inner wounds from childhood. Only emotionally healthy adults have any shot at raising emotionally healthy children. And emotionally healthy children grow into emotionally healthy adults. And emotionally healthy adults don't go on killing sprees!
It's time that we start with each one of us. We all must do the work to heal our wounded inner child, so that we don't pass our pain and shame onto the next generation. Nothing else will do.
Hi
Nah he's just a fool
@@sasuke5760 it's this kind of simplistic thinking that dooms us to repeat the past.
He mentioned his childhood was rejected by a girl, he described in his biography he was bullied by that girl and she hurt his self esteem permanently. I just can't believe his childhood was rough, he was totally crazy !
Yeah you go a point man. 😢
"I'm a good guy, I have good values"... right 🤣
Look, I was an angsty teenager too. I grew up being totally rejected by society and treated like garbage. Many of my writings from that time are extremely similar to this kid's. I was angry at the entire world around and at times everyone in it. And you know what? I never hurt anyone.
I truly believe that everyone on this earth has commonality in their struggles. But to me, the people who let adversity, in whatever form, become an excuse to indulge violence are trash. Being mad at the world never gives you the right to take it out on innocent beautiful lives. We've all struggled and we all have to find ways to mitigate that struggle, but there's a BIG turning point for those who choose violence as their answer, and they are always wrong. To me, that's what separates man from animal.
I hope things get better for you and know that you are NOT alone. Not by a long shot.
I agree. I have been a quiet person my whole life. I’m 21 now but I went though physical, mental, and emotional abuse growing up. I wrote, painted, and played video games to get through it. I wrote positive messages to myself even while the worst shit was happening in my life. I felt in my soul that life would get better for me. No one and I mean NO ONE pushed him to murder but himself. Honestly, I look at this guy and find him quite pathetic. Complaining about his life because he can’t get a fucking girlfriend? Murdering people because they won’t accept you? I cried because my mom said she would give me a rope to hang myself…I was angry of course but all I’ve done is stop talking to her. I still live with her and I don’t speak to her or even look her way. That’s the biggest pain I will ever inflict on her, even after everything she put me though… This guy just sucks and he’s pathetic….
its not the same for everyone, i dont believe people are born this way, they bome like this mostly from moron parents who dont do their job
with normal parents there is no amount of fucked up environment that can break someone like that... same applies to school shooters, i bet if people take a closer look at the parents they will find plenty of disturbing stuff
I knew someone online in highschool eerily similar to this 7/8 years ago. Also recorded himself saying the same pathetic things with no shame. He’s in jail for battery on a woman as of recent. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of psychopaths out there.
Stop crying and blaming everyone else for you being a loser
6:10 bro is just being a child at this point
Tru
The reason he got the crap beat out of him at that party is because he showed up and immediately started cussing out all the women there and went upstairs and was trying to grab them and throw them over the balcony. So in turn he got jumped. He lied to everyone about what happened to seem like a victim. This is one of the biggest cases of delusion I’ve ever seen in my life. I also think he was extremely autistic. The entire situation is so unfortunate.
Wow…smh. Dude was the worst.
Coming from a man diagnosed with autism, he’s most likely a person with both Narcissistic personality disorder and either a sociopath or psychopath on top of it, socio/psychopaths have the possessive, seemingly shy and loner type personalities that people with autism exhibit growing up. Same with empathy, but not to his extent.
@@imliketwomentally8330
I've known a few people with autism, and they ain't online pathplogozing people
@@imliketwomentally8330You could tell that he was def sociopathic even as a child, his eyes were dead af there was no soul behind them.
Yeah I immediately thought there was more to that specific story when he talked about it. Thanks for clarifying. Great example of delusional behavior.
He repeatedly calls others obnoxious, yet cant see it in himself. Its possibly why it was so difficult getting others to like him.
For those out there who believe life is totally against them,PLEASE try and speak to someone, ANYONE. If that doesn't work and your reasoning is killing others, PLEASE start with yourself.
Im so sorry to put it so bluntly. I Personally am there for Anyone whose going through inner turmoil and hell,if someone isnt willing or isn't able to interact,gaining infamy by hurting others is definitely not the way and I hope narcissistic people can somehow see that.
The one error is: narcissists only see themselves for themselves. They wouldn’t look so far into themselves to see that they are affecting others
In a negative way. They will always turn the gun on themselves only after “making the world pay!!”👍🏾
Right? I don’t know why he couldn’t take a look at himself and realize maybe the girls are picking up on how creepy and entitled he was.
@@jenniturtleburger3708when your parents don’t do anything but throw money at you and not show anything else but money and not get you mental help wat would you do?
@@LoEvRod dont blame the parents. They did what they can. Its him who is responsible for this. If he spoke out or got help in time lives would have been saved.
@@LoEvRod Not do what he did? And he DID receive a lot of mental health care. He had councilors and psychiatrist.
So scary how self loathing he was yet overwhelmingly narcassistic at the same time. Some of his writings remind me of what Bryan Koeburger ( the ID 4 killer) had documented online. Loneliness, being single, lack of friends....just seems to drive them to scary outcomes. He needed serious therapy and everyone ignored every sign....very sad.
Most ppl with NPD suffer with self loathing, although they usually never divulge that info to anyone.. this gives really good insight into how a narcissist truly thinks.. the jealousy and envy further fuels the self loathing and hate especially if the person’s wants and needs are never met…
As you point out, he needed serious therapy. Yet the mental health authorities described him as "extremely polite & no threat to himself or others." Anyone know what these people get paid for?
Have you watched the video?
Kohberger has been linked to Elliott Rodger since his arrest. "Papa Rodger" in the discussion groups about the murders stating true facts not known yet to the public. They say he used Rodgers name because he is like a god to incels. You didn't watch this video 2 months ago and all of a sudden think of Kohberger after hearing Rodgers writings. Nice try on acting like you came up with this comparison all on your own though 😂
No one can say "I will never never hurt someone one day" cause our brain can loose it. We can loose control
"I don't know what they don't see in me" -- maybe they actually do see you for you, and this guy was the only one that didn't see it
Can you imagine how creeped out you’d be if you saw yourself in one of this guy’s drive-by videos?
For real
That's what i thought of that couple in the park at the beginning.
Especially if you were one of those two folks @ 6:21. He was watching them like a lion eyeballs a zebra.
@@Hofberaterfuchs Considering his later actions, I suspected he was considering k*lling them.
Just a creep .. with a mentall ilness.
I bet he never even tried approaching anybody either, he expects people to come to him because of his Armani glasses
He grew up in Cuckold Land. Mattress Flippers and movie stars.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He expected every girls want to sleep with him. That's why in his last video filmed in his car he said women owed him the pleasure he deserve to have.
This dude was absolutely out of his mind.
Guys if you think that a woman's love is the answer to all your problems, then you will never be happy.
No one but you can make yourself happy. Happiness is a state of mind, not something that happens when the conditions are met.
It seems like at every turn in his life, he chose the most toxic way of responding to and dealing with every single hardship he ever faced.
What hardships? Lol he was getting 1k, was able to go to college, was driving a BMW… what hardships?
I can see why girls would avoid him!
Those are all material things. You think those make up for not having both parents disciplining and raising a child? I'm not justifying what he did at all. Just saying the world is upside down with the divorce rates and sleeping around and having babies as accessories... @@utubegirl00
it was a single tiny "hardship" of not getting laid. I bet he didn't even bother talking to any.
@@utubegirl00 okay your acting like all wealthy people don't have problems
I watched a psychologist doing an evaluation on another incel, and he summed them up better than anyone ive heard. When describing this dude he said "he focused on marketing instead of self improvement" .
I was thinking the same thing. He thought he was this shave, sophisticated gentleman. He made no attempt to cultivate positivity, confidence and caring and work on himself. If he had just stopped and listened to those tapes of his maybe he could have figured out girls didn’t want to be with him because he was a nasty, entitled horrible little narcissist.
Yeah, he focused on his expensive shirt in one vid. Meanwhile, Marlon Brando in a torn white T-shirt could draw the hot chicks... He forgot that. @@jenniturtleburger3708
I had selective mutism and got bullied throughout my whole school life, never had any friends. I feel like I am a nice person and care about others deeply, probably more than most people. I would never want to cause anyone harm. It just shows that there was something else at play in his brain as well as him just not being able to use logic.
You are such a beautiful soul to be around with , God bless you 🙏
If thats you in the pic, you're also a beautiful young woman. A mans reality, especially one that lets himself fall as low as this, is going to differ wildly from any female, society is not coming to help. Thats not to defend his actions, or the racism he was spewing midway thru the video, but its pointless to pretend you were in his shoes.
Id say he picked up a demon or 2. seen nefarious? great illustration of what the devil can do when he truly possess a human fully. what he said is true " I hate everybody " im sure he has separated himself from God forever what a shame......anotherone bites the dust.
I had a very similar experience growing up too. I have a diagnosis of Asperger’s but Selective Mutism is more accurate. You are brave and courageous. Thank you for sharing your story.
People tried to bully me a number of times in high-school, but I'm the type of person that is always cracking jokes and making people laugh. Everytime someone would pull some shit I would turn it back on them with jokes and they would get embarrassed and leave me alone or someone else would walk up thinking we was both playing around and they would just walk away.
“Jealousy and envy… those are two feelings that would dominate my entire life and bring me immense pain.”
He’s not wrong when he says that. Just imagine what a little bit of love can do to someone, it’s sad.
If anyone is ever confused about what an incel is, this guy is a prime example.
The Hapa are an odd breed.
This dude isn't even an incel, Hes his own fucking breed of depressing.
He needed help.
You mean it's not someone who disagrees with a woman online 😮😮😮😮
Easy to label everyone and everything with "mentally ill" and "incel" to not dig into the depression and into the sadness of the society, and into the eternal fight that men have to afford every single day to the cruel natural selection that girls do... Let's say I can't tolerate the actions He did, but for sure I can understand him 100%
It really burns me that cops were so easily taken in by his "polite demeanor". That same scenario has been repeated in a number of mass-killings where just a few more questions by police and pressure to search the house would have given them probable cause for an arrest.
Yeah but then you live in a police state and you're breaking the 4th. Do you want your phone to be taken and searched without a warrant like in China? Go live there, there's rules for a reason.
@@tomaccinobahaha, you're a joke.
@@tomaccinoYes, can't search everybody for no reason at all. Crazy people usually act a bit crazy.
It's probably because he wasn't black . Or first Nations like myself
@@tomaccino In China, you won't be in any way getting searched unless the police hold evidence that you sell pornography or commit wire fraud or whatever other crime. You're suggesting that Chinese students and scholars getting searched for no reason when crossing the US border is somehow legitimate just because they have a warrant from Donald Trump.
Wow… he really thought the world revolved around him and that people did things intentionally towards him even though people didn’t even know he was even around
That exactly was his problem: He knew they didn't know he was even around. Every young man wants to make a place for himself in the world, he wants to be respected and he wants to have friends and a woman to spend his life with. When that doesn't work out, he starts looking for reasons. What he doesn't look for, out of the societal conditioning that men don't show weakness, is help and support. And don't forget that adolescents can be very cruel to anybody who doesn't conform to their social norms. That mixture, combined with his selective mutism and his inability and lack of opportunity to communicate, let him to seek guilt and the reason for his situation in others and ultimately resulted in the tragedy that unfolded. The world can be very cruel to young men indeed, and sometimes it turns them into monsters. What can we do about it? Firstly, we need more help for young men, BY MEN. No young man, especially in a similar situation, is going to trust a woman, and he probably has a lot of valid reasons to not do so (female cruelty). Secondly, Society needs to become less competitive and fixated on money as the only reason and measure for success, and that can only be achieved by lessening the contrast between rich and poor. Thirdly, we need to regulate the access to weapons. They are just tools, but they are meant and built to kill, and that is what they are being used for.
Wow, you really completely misinterpreted the entire video.
That's true, in his mind everything was about him but the truth of the world is, it's chaotic, it's random, no one knows you are there.
@@SiimKoger I’m talking about when he was sitting at the park and a couple sat in front of him… they had no idea he was there
@@joergmaass Sounds like a lot of excuses for this "polite, respectful, beautiful, magnificent gentalmen" who would go around and throw hot coffee on people.
Amazing work on this video. Feels like a documentary. Nice job!
this case truly feels like something out of a movie
I find it odd his dad worked on the hunger games
Incels all over social media talk just like him but yeah not everyone ends up like him
@@alyciamarie4163 proof?
There is a movie made about him
You drive a BMW, your dad's rich and provides for you, you live in a nice part of California, AND YET you think you don't have enough? So many people would love to be in his place of having all this support. Crazy thing is this happened ten years ago this month... He should have been grateful it would have changed his life...
@PaulTheChristiansoldier if you are utterly miserable being rich, then you don't deserve it and need a reality check. that's some bullshit if you cant count your blessings. the ppl with the most privilege never realize what they truly have
It's a bit strange. When you think about it you are advocating his point. That having these material things should mean you're happy and therefore people should love to be in his place and therefore be with him.
Having material things is something. Having good friends and family is a whole other thing. To me, he is a pitiful soul who lacked family and friends - and that's why he felt so empty regardless of how much more "stuff" he got.
@@tubbycustard8866 i think he was just very mentally unstable and narcissistic, he needed help early in life and didnt get it, but he is a bad person, dont get me wrong. but something was totally wrong in his brain.
He has a lot of money given by his father. The pistols he bought were Glock and SIG. Very expensive guns indeed !
Its not about the money for him though
He thinks life is unfair because he feels like no one loves him
What is so horrifying is that the police were told several times that he was a serious threat and yet they did not act properly. This could have been prevented with faster better investigative procedures and far clearer swifter communications with family, friends and those calling in because they saw his videos or read his manifesto. This should be investigated by an outside force and lessons learned. The police officers involved need more awareness and training ASAP !
Police are reactive, not proactive. If you rely on police to protect you, it very well may be a fatal decision.
You can't be a culture that arrests people we're going after people who are creepy otherwise you end up with pre-crime arrests and the civilization gets nuts the guy needed an intervention by police was not the answer
Because he was white if he was black it would of been a different story entirely and that’s the truth.
@Helen : You obvi dont know how self-absorbed cops are. The have highest domesic viol rate against GF & wives. Wake up. They r like him - 70% s least.
The cops will come take your firearms if the bored neighbor that doesn't like people calls the cops and tells them he thinks you are a threat
the problem seems to be that is a certaintype of girl that he was attracted to. I find it hard to believe that he was turned down by so many enough to make him think this. The other fault is him not even prolly going 50% of the way or give 50% of the effort and just expecting them to flock to him like a god. When it comes to going after something you want the ratio is approximately 90:10. You go in 90% then a majority of the time they will come the remaining 10. I don't know I saw it in a movie once lol "hitch"
It scares me how these kind of people live among us.
I find it irritating.
Cruelty is bound to happen.
Being too powerless to do anything about it makes it even worse.
Biden is welcoming 10's of millions more.
And there is so many more out there sadly
@@kimberleytaylor4475even worse these days
Scares me how stupid you are to feel scared when you can buy a gun to protect yourself. Always the victim ehh even when you are not. Moron.
I feel like even if he did get a girlfriend, he would be INCREDIBLY posessive, and probably put her down all the time. He obviously has this huge fantasy in his mind of who he is and what a girl *should be and should do* he would have never had a girlfriend for long. And if that girlfriend left, God help her. She would probably for sure be the target of his deep seeded hate. This guy was a ticking time bomb regardless of his situation IMO. Any girl that he got with he would probably see as lesser-than and try to mold her to some perfect sense of what he wants a woman to be.
I truly think hes the type that he was on a path that could not end well. His mindset was too warped and he had this serious "main character" syndrome going on
This was amazingly produced and researched btw. INSTANT subscribed. Cant wait to see what you come up with next!!
This.
and in general, nobody wants to date a deranged person or in other words a "creep".
@QueerdoLoc, until she proved that she wasn’t whatever he’d created in his mind. Then he’d probably kill her for not being his imagined ideal.
Correct. Huge narcissist. He was going to hurt a woman at some point
@QueerdoLocyeah if by God you mean a being that has to bend to his every will and desires the moment he demands it and also cut herself off from humanity to shield him from his paranoid jealousy then sure. But I certainly wouldn't wish that kind of Godly lifestyle to anybody.
i grew up with one of the victims christopher martinez from kindergarten all the way through high school. Not only was he just genuinely a great person he was also athletic and very book smart. i have a memory where him and i had detention together during lunch time in elementary school, i clearly remember our punishment was writing out sentences of our reason why we were in detention, i remember our teacher complimenting him on his excellent handwriting skills (seeing we were 9-10 years old at the time) for some reason it's something that's embedded in my brain i will never forget. i even remember the teacher who gave the compliment (Mrs. Hartwell)
in school there's always certain crowds, popular kids, geeky kids, athletes, and from my memory chris was accepted by everyone due to his humble nature and kindness towards others. Very caring parents too, i remember them picking him up after school from the after school program.
Todays my 30th birthday and chris deserves to be here celebrating his as well. The world needs more people like him.
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Rest in peace :(
Thanks for sharing. Sorry for your loss ❤
Weihan Wang, I knew him as David went to the same private school and played basketball for the HS... He was super innocent. Couldn't hurt a fly.
May Chris rest in peace. He was so innocent that has nothing to do with this crazy guy. His father cries in TV, I was very saddened too !
The best video Ive seen on Elliot Roger. Seen 120+ over last 10 years or so. I rarely give compliments but this video is filled with psychological analysis, great clips, breaks of constant talking by showing clips in between. Having great harmony of both clips and narration. Hypnotically interesting. Intelligent to say the least.
I cant believe how absurd his hatred is. His videos literally sound scripted like a character from a movie. He was completely detached from reality and felt everything in life only affected him
before his vlogs he had years and years of his life full of rejections. why you people keep forgetting about it. And US laws are not making any easy for a guys to find someone at least "good enough". From very young age, majority eating disturbing food, developing unhealthy eat habits. So literally out of 100% US girls within your age range, - only 20% are good looking. How guys can "compete" on this market, - I don't know. Ugly people are literally everywhere in US.
Exacty it’s really sick! It doesnt seem real
He was obviously psychotic.
I think his life was more weird than horror movie. His father working in Hollywood, heshould shoot a movie about his son !
Unfortunately his parents did everything but what he needed most. Instead of giving him money and things, moving schools they should have gotten him psychiatric assistance. That is what he needed. They knew something was wrong but threw money and sparkle at him. Very sad indeed
You kinda forgot Love, parrents should give him love and their time, so he wont feel alone and wont need psych. help.
It seems that he did have a counselor
Dont blame the parents. You cant control what your son does. Even kids that get all the love in the world commit very violent crimes.
@@ReviewGuy-k2zhis parents obviously didn’t give him love. If they did. He would feel comfortable talking to them about his problems. In which they would be his counselors. I come from a very strict dad. Yet I was comfortable enough to talk to him about anything. Even when I got in trouble. He gave me the words I needed.
Looks like the parents were more concerned with their careers than they were with this kid. He literally wasn’t taught anything. Just given things.
@kylie this is the most accurate and relevant comment on this video. The rest are mindless 🚮
I was never popular with the ladies and it was depressing until I started seeing all the drama guys were going through. And then I was blessed with a lovely woman who truly loves me. His parents did everything you can do for a child. Sometimes you’re your own worst enemy.
@@RyanArgyros Education isn't everything. A child's mind isn't something you can shape as you like.
Sure, but I hoped you understood, and were taught, that males around the world make the first move on a woman they are interested in ( I mean asking them on a date), and the potential for rejection is high. If you were not taught both by your parents, they could have done better.
Well although one thing we do not know is if he learned these tendencies from one of his parents. Generally it is the case. His only help was God Above but unfortunately he did not adhere to that Voice and he will face the Consequence in the here after, no doubt.
be happy you're not a negro, life could be worse
I was awkward and had no idea girls are into me actually. Figured this out during 2nd half of my first college year and it became too easy to get girls. However, I've been with a lot of girls and they are vicious and cruel. Many cheated on their bf without telling me they had one. Even had one engaged cheat with me, telling me she's engaged a day later, me ghosting her, her calling me a year later how she's pregnant with another bf she met after she broke up with fiance and telling me she wants to abort it and be with me! Nah, it's been five years how I'm willingly solo and I don't regret a single day.
Mate, this was an excellent piece of journalism. You should make more if you have it in you; you’ve got a real talent for writing and presenting.
People obviously like what you make, too. This is, like, THE definitive Eliot Rodger documentary. Everything you need to know about his distorted views and horrendous crimes is here and presented with the necessary context and condemnation it deserves.
Well done. Gladly subbed and excited to see more in the future 👍
I cant imagine this kid without money and struggling like the rest of us, working 16 to 18 hours eating instan soups some times, sleeping a few hours etc etc, looks like he never cross the line trying to be better himself, just selfish.
He would’ve be the opposite
Would of made him normal, fact he doesn’t go through this struggle he had all that free time to be the way he is
No real life trouble to struggle with. All goes back to Bad Parenting. Poor Chinese mom marries English movie ptoducet. Forgets his roots
@support_people_not_evil bs. money can and does mean something. only those who have been too privileged think otherwise
He thought he was perfect.
I struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts, and this really hit me hard. It sucks when you feel alone and have nowhere to go. I've learned to accept that things get better with time, even if it feels like time drags on forever. The only thing I've ever really wanted in life is love, and I'm still waiting to find it. However, as days go by I know I'm one step closer to overcoming it, no matter how hopeless I feel. I encourage anyone struggling to keep your heads up, the only limitations are the ones you set for yourself. The most important thing is to love yourself, I know it's hard sometimes, but keep at it. Good luck to everyone, and amazing (yet sad) video.
good luck brother/sister stay strong
God loves you, he created you perfectly in his image, he sent his only begotten son to die on the cross to pay the price of our sins !!! He loves you and he is waiting for you, he wants to have a relationship with you, he will guide to to the life he has for you !!! Please seek him, it sounds unbelievable but he really is all you need when you put your trust in him !!!
May God bring believers into your path so you can see and feel Gods love !!!
God bless and keep you !!!
Get away from those religious people in the comments!. Just think, if you're a good person, you'll find eventually omeone. I never had problems finding partners, but I have no true friends, I think finding friends is harder than finding a girlfriend.
You won't find love if you obsess over it. Focus on becoming someone deserving of love. Trust me, I've been in your shoes before. Relationships are great, but if you take a step back you'd realize that life is so much more.
Keep going and do it for you. You deserve to enjoy life. Take it day by day but with goals or dreams to look forward too. And I agree with @kunchenliang8772 life is so much more than relationships.
It really makes you wonder what Elliott was doing to make people avoid/dislike him so much. Especially with being wealthy, dressing well, moving around a lot and then going to large colleges he really would have to be acting out to even garner enough attention to be picked on and generally avoided.
He was on the autism spectrum. High functioning, which used to be called aspergers syndrome when your that high functioning. The most intelligent people known to humankind had it, the list would shock most people, almost anyone whos ever furthered mankind's understanding and modern technology. It really just mainly affects the social aspect of autism at that point. if you've ever met anyone with aspergers, you'll understand why it was so hard for him. It becomes nearly impossible to have healthy relationships with anyone, let alone friends or a potential girlfriend. Aspergers has been referred to by some as the brains ability to unlock some of the "limitors" set in place to keep us together and sane, doing so allowing the individual to really think outside the construct that others have set in place as a means of explaining away things that aren't fully understood yet. It really allows them to utilize their brain in a way that most others couldn't even dream of. However in doing so it has to take away from other areas of the brain. The social aspect. I'm sure he was very intelligent, if he could have talked through his problems of society with someone that's job it is to listen and help change the course of his thought process, say a counselor, this tragedy may have been avoided. However.. some of the most intelligent murderers known in modern history are strikingly similar to him.. the zodiac was thought to be someone with aspergers. Many of his decoded ciphers sound exactly like this man's manifesto. One of the zodiacs ciphers took 55 years to decode, and was thought to be decoded only this year in 2024. Tens of millions of people all over the world tried to decipher his letters for over half a century. Einstein was no mass murderer but.. America may not have won ww2 without the atom bomb. The invention of Electricity, the discovery of the cell and dna, the invention of wireless electricity, nuclear energy generation, microwave radiation, the first computer ever invented, the smart phone as we know it today by the late Steve Jobs, and today we have Tesla a company that created one of the first electric battery powered self driving autonomous vehicles headed by Elon Musk. The list is endless and goes back much further than the invention of Electricity. This guy could have potentially done incredible things with his life, he just needed a therapist. His parents should have been able to see that.
Musk bought that technology. He didn't invent it. He is an investor, not an inventor.
@FredCarpenter-pb6bdthe people formerly known as Ñ
It's the social mistakes of awkward boys/men and those with autism. They do things they don't understand are socially unacceptable. Or they talk differently. Don't make eye contact. Make too much eye contact. Stare at people/people watch. He was mute around others. Definitely even more creepy combined with these other behaviors I mentioned. Standing too close to someone unfamiliar is another. Touching someone when it's not socially acceptable to do so. . . There's probably others.
Holy shit, that was a good watch. I used to date someone sort of like narcissistic ig.., how eerie their voice can sound when they speak of themself as Godlike 🙄
On another note, Elliot and I share the same birthday!
Born on the Leo Cancer Cusp, i see the leo in his constant cravings for attention, the arrogance in his train of thought, and the cancer shows from him being overpossesive/jealous, the meticulous thinking, even the isolation and miscommunication..
I hope this helps pyschiatrists, therapists, doctors, especially students as an aid because him recording everything like that, we could learn a lot from studying these video journals he put together...
Fun fact: If you hate yourself, so will everyone else. Learn to stop hating yourself, and that's when your life truly begins.
Dude didnt record his kills.. He recorded videos talking about how he was going to kill people
Seriously, intentional click bait like this shiť should result in removal of the video, and 2nd time should be removal of channel 🎉
@@БрандонХемиы youtube doesnt have the time or resources to go out and remove every little bit of clickbait even if it doesnt harm anyone
Facts
@@NullicityFr
@@Nullicity it harms their platform, muddies the feed and makes it harder for users to find what they want to watch. Hence the complaining comments...
Elliot had many things people don’t have in this world, bro get $1k allowance while many people work 60+ for only $700, bro had life made for him, and he blames just because he can’t get a girlfriend the world is so unfair, life isn’t about how you look, you don’t have to have the nicest things in life to pull off getting a bunch of girls. Watching this video I can hear in his voice the insecurity/unstable mentality. No “hot chick” wants to babysit a grown adult.
60Hr a week? Or for the month lol
If its for the month that’s that person problem
@KMVS8686minimum wage is 7.50. 60 hours would be 525 a week. So yeah his comment checks out.
I don't think he got the 1k a month part though....
I blame his father for bringing a Hapa into the world.
@@jessetreadway5249Where in the world do you live that min wage is only 7.50 hr?!? Its like 14.50 in my state going up to $15 on Jan 1st. Damn when I first began working 23 yrs ago min wage was 6.75 lol
its crazy how far narcissism can take people
People never see themselves as the problem. It HAS to be everything, anything else other than themselves. It's not just narcissists, it's sociopaths as well. They think they're the main character in this movie we call life. It's kind of like how a-holes don't ever see themselves as such; they justify their behavior as earned, or deserved. Most evil stuff done in history is because the person justified it in their head.
@@Zidbits Don't make the mistake of thinking it's all on him though. Intimidation is a savage thing. If these grieving kids in the crowd went back to school the week after to intimidate the next guy, then they didn't learn a thing.
@@Zidbits narcissism is a learned coping mechanism. remember how he was ruthlessly bullied all throughout his entire childhood? when the father was saying he partly wishes his son wasn't born, what i wished on his behalf is that his son could have had a more accepting environment as a child.
the issue with narcissism is that while it IS highly treatable (unlike psychopathy), the sufferer has to recognize the behavior and desire help. however as you said one of the symptoms of narcissism is not seeing the repercussions of your actions/self victimizing. it's very much like a drug addiction in that way. no one can make you quit, you have to seek it out for yourself. unlike a drug addiction, it isn't a choice, but a reaction to trauma, usually as a child. it's rather tragic.
They make it worst for him @@marc-etiennemercier6584
The other one of being a crazy narcissist was Donald Trump !
This guy is a whole villain.
His mindset is so disturbing , the hate he has for himself and everyone around him , im aamzed he was not picked up way before he commited that horrendous act. He pretends to love himself but hes completwly empty inside
And that's the saddest part, no one picked up on it. Mental health is still a taboo subject in our society and the last to be picked up on. As one comedian said: "the problem with crazy people is, they don't know they're crazy" and others don't know what is going on in someone's brain. The thing is, they can contain themselves, until they can't and then they either snap and commit horrible crimes or they fall into a blithering mess. Many just don't see the build up, especially when they are socially distant, people will see bits and pieces and not able to piece together a puzzle.
He keeps repeating the same things in all his videos.A consumed psyche.
@@utha2665 The people dont snap in the attacks , they snapped before, in their heads and they most likely have depression etc and dont give a fuck sbout anything and anyone so they want revenge and they want people to regret everything etc. Most murderers got treated like shit which led them to snap
You're kidding, right? The FBI knew about Nikolas Cruz months in advance and didn't do a damn thing. They knew he was making threats for months and allowed him to murder 17 people and injure 17. And this has happened in many so-called "mass shootings." I guarantee they knew everything about this poop stain and did nothing because that's what they do. Get a clue!
@@Quickyloopei Um, this is exactly what I said, read my post again. But there are people out there that are inherently evil and no amount of support will help them. I'm not saying this person was one of those people, we just don't know enough about him. To me, a layman, feel he had a personality disorder and couldn't self reflect, her just thought it was always someone else's fault. It's a complex field of which even the experts don't understand it all. Who knows what was going on in his brain, but I don't think it was due to what his parents did.
"my life is sad and unfair" What a load of BS. As he sits behind the wheel of a very expensive car, wearing nice clothes. Yeah you had it rough.
Elliot is the poster-child for narcissistic entitlement and weak character. He could have had as many women as he wanted if he were not a hollow shell of self-loathing and emptiness. He makes my skin crawl.
Do you think having money equates to being able to have a fulfilling life?Take a class in psychology maybe that will help you.
Being socially inept and starved of companion isn't fun, regardless how rich you are. That being said Elliot was incredibly narcissistic, expecting to want to mingle with ppl he preferred whilst rejecting the ones that did want to be his friend
it’s not really a very expensive car. back when elliot had his it would probably be worth 15-20k depending on mileage, nowadays that same bmw is worth 5k.
😂😂😂
Dude was set for life and threw it away. It’s okay to not fit in, do your thing, be the best you can be, and everything will be fine.
this is it right here
He could of also given people a chance to actually know him; rather than immediately becoming jealous and writing everyone off. Just such a disturbing story, all those innocent people who deserved better.
@@classicjonesy He was a psychopath, so he was all superficialities and empty inside. No one could have got to know him. Because of his personality defects, he had nothing to offer.
@@Missditabomb I hate how overused word "psychopath" is. Most psychopaths are perfectly able to fake emotions and fit in. They are often extremely charismatic too. Elliot was entitled underdeveloped narcissistic sociopath with maybe a touch of psychopathy. But far from true, full blown psychopath.
he could have gone to dating coaches, there's so many good ones that guide you to develop an attractive personality in a way that brings out the best version of yourself. This guy should have been put down from the first video he made. It was clear he had no intention of fixing his issue but rather taking it out on others. You can't force someone to like you or find you attractive. That's life we all experience it. What you can do is work on yourself become the most attractive version of yourself.
They should do Netflix "monsters" series on this like with Dahmer and Menendez brothers 👍🏻
A very sad story but narrated better than any I have seen or listened to. Great job.
Thank you!!!
As someone who had no friends, and nothing going right in my life and looking around and seeing everyone doing so well and having many friendships. I can relate to the beginning of this, I haven't watched the end yet but I can't relate with how this turns to harming others; I was very depressed and lonely but found friendship online which dragged me through my younger life and once I grew older I more self reflected on how I can find new groups and meet people and set the immediate opinion of me by talking to new people and introducing myself vs sitting in silence fearing rejection. That was the biggest best change of my life, deciding to take action and not hide from others and come out of my shell no matter the consequences. You lose 100% of the friendships you take no action to make, I remember being so closed off inside the first people I spoke to just saying hi was painful, and I couldn't say much else or sustain a conversation as I never knew how... and those people aren't my friends anymore but they reciprocated and tried their best to sustain a conversation so if you ever lonely closed off talk to people... it's sounds obvious and stupid especially as fear will drive you away but always remember if you talk to people outdoors at random you'll likely never see them again anyway so they're great people to practice social skills on there's no repercussions.
That being said the world could be a nicer place, all I wanted when I was younger was just one friend someone who I could talk to... and no one ever approached me the quite kid. If we all just noticed said hi, asked about their day we'd be more connected. I always say hello to quite person as an adult these days yes they'll be weird at least at first but you'll massively improve their quality of life.
Me personally... I no longer gauge my life against the success of others on a daily basis anymore as it unhealthy and pushes that mental self harm an extra step, however I have moments of weakness where I gauge my social skills and see myself as 10 years behind my peers in life but I tell myself that's okay! I'll find my true place in life and succeed.. all I need to tell myself is if I want something to achieve something... I just need to work towards it, build a plan to overcome a fear, force myself to say hello to someone I like or invite someone I know out to a place. If it doesn't work out it's not the end of the world, it wasn't meant to be and other opportunities will come life is never a dead end it's filled with many branches of opportunities when door closers another will open.
Stay mentally healthy my friends, and if you ever feel like you need to do something like the above video please channel that energy into pushing yourself against your fears, and setting small goals. Don't set the goal as a girlfriend by end of next year set it as a work friend, casual acquaintance etc and take baby steps towards where you want to be in life... talk to one random stranger every day for a year on the bus stop; yes that seems weird but you'll improve your social skills to build and maintain friendships in the future.
you did not need to right a whole book butt i respect it🥰
So glad you were able to work on yourself and make changes. Great advice to others struggling. You will do well in life.
great advice, wish more people who struggle with similar situations as this guy read this comment. personally helped me a lot.
Nice
let people release their stress, do not be a d**k about it... sheesh@@joharjundi7442
A reminder to us parents… guide, love, give quality time, help them to make friends and let us be a good example to our kids. Don’t let money do the parenting. Let us be responsible because aside from raising a child, our child is our contribution to society… how we raise them will affect the people around them. Be there, answer their questions and ask them “how are you?”. Find happiness on becoming a responsible parent not selfish for own happiness.
Sad to see this video… but these makes me appreciate the less fortunate kids (financially) but love their life. Humbled and appreciative of the time they have in this world. Peace is the real source of happiness. Prayers for everyone.
My daughter claims she has no friends. It worries me but her sister is good at talking to her.
@@Catherinna-vo5fkthat’s NOT ENOUGH…and not fair to your daughter …get her into therapy or something!!!
Parents gave him everything, never taught him how to deal with adversity.
People can smell he is not right, so they don't give him a chance. Sad but true - and ultimately more safe. Poor soul
and the rejection just makes it worse. but you're right - people can sense the creepiness.
Good to see no girls ever gave him a chance, he was so dangerous. Actually he didn't want any relationship with women. He just want sex and it was all their faults not coming to sleep with him. His reason was weird enough! 😅
I have NPD myself, and this definitely gives off the vibes of unmedicated and untreated narcissistic personality disorder. We are not evil people, just have troubled minds and need help
should still never lead to what he did tho
Glad you are self aware. That is not common with most narcissists.
I hear you. I believe you. Thank you for sharing mate.
I love his honesty, and your honesty. But He was evil.
@@MsNocell narcissism is a learned coping mechanism to deal with trauma, usually that suffered as a child. the guy was ruthlessly bullied his entire childhood, and who knows what home life was like. he sounds like he has some form of autism, which comes with it's own slew of issues such as social anxiety, depression, failure to fit in with society. he needed friends who actually cared about him, instead of what was most likely commiserates on 4chan.
he wasn't a psychopathic evil monster, he had a lot of baggage that wasn't being dealt with until it was much too late.
"To be interesting, you need to be interested" - The best advice I've heard when it comes to worrying about why people aren't interested in you. Just be interested in things (other then other people) and eventually you'll meet someone because they will find you interesting.
Exactly he expected everyone too just like him and for the women too just throw them selves at him like he was entitled
He was talking to us on Yahoo Messenger. ? What can you do in a chat? He wanted us t o like his car maybe sunglasses and all. Sure, we are interested in film making and like nice cars and all of that. Nice clothes. ? We could have talked to him more or ? He seemed to think money impresses us. And ? he was talking about cultural things on his travels in Europe. His dad told him to stop being so weird talking about cultural things all the time or he never wuold meet a girlfriend. Cultural things? What does that even mean? He told us about everything that's in all of these videos. Going to that other country and visiting friends in Europe and things like that. It was him. Same nicknames on Yahoo we remember all of that.
"To be interesting, you need to be interested" - That's a great statement. I must try and remember that but I'm 70 so probably won't. LOL
You heard that from gavin mccinnes
Was this guy hoping the girls would jump on him and not doing anything?
This guy is the embodiment of the idiom; personality over looks, he was a genuinely handsome guy. But it's clear being in his presence put everyone off. Terribly sad. His parents have a lot to answer for.
Your remark about his parents is spot on. It is never an excuse, but parental abuse, rejection, abandonment and neglect are enormously traumatizing to any child, and can result in the type of condition, and subsequent destructive rage, Elliot had. It’s a horrible, immensely sad story that should have been prevented. The fact that his parents weren’t aware of what was brewing until way too late, says it all in terms of their failure, because that lack of interest and engagement was apparently their modus operandi. Elliott is fully responsible, but his parents are heavily complicit.
He looks below average tbh
@@VonDutchNL below average is ugly. He was an above avg looking dude, you can be a lot less attractive and get girls. Personality is everything and dude was simply a disillusioned weirdo. Quite telling that all his roommates were also asain and he didn't even vibe with them.
Idk ppl are so quick to blame parents.. but he's an adult at this point who is responsible for his own actions and has every advantage to make his life good. I'd take my parents totally ignoring me with all the advantages he had over what I was given. His parents kept him fed, safe, and gave him every advantage to make something out of himself. I don't blame them at all
No, his parents don't have a lot to answer for. It was pretty obvious that parenting was clearly NOT the issue. I hate when ppl just come at the parents because of their son/daughters actions, simply not fair. You also have to remember, they lost their child too, regardless of how vile he was. That is not the person they knew. There are just sum really fvcked up ppl in this world who play the victim card their entire lives, even when they clearly are the furthest thing from a victim. This scumbag was one of those people.
Be aware while you are talking to yourself. Your words become actions. Talk positively to yourself. Hope this message finds you well.
The worst part is that if he just dropped the incel attitude and actually talked to women, he probably would’ve gotten a girlfriend and gotten his life turned around. He’s not even a bad looking dude, but he made himself ugly with this horrid personality
@Fred.Carpenter Better to have be stupid and have a heart than being narcissistic, self entitled and have no heart. There is no love in a person with no heart
having a good family, living in a nice house, drives a BMW, and got $1000 per month just by existing, thats a dream life for most of people...
It’s crazy how he felt others were trying to make him jealous while they were trying to do their own thing. How did he expect girls to like him while claiming to be sophisticated and not opening up to them? This is messed up!🤨🤨🤨
Like that couple at the beach. What were they thinking!
Fun fact, I had the same issues as Elliot growing up, I also had very bad thoughts and I could not for the life of me speak when in a social setting, but with family I could, unless it's indirect family. I also often lock myself in my room, and have very wild day dreams that from a third persons perspective makes me look crazy, my siblings always made fun of that part of me. I'm the odd one out and I'm always alone.
The difference is, I chose not to be cruel or inflict others with pain just because I was in pain...
In addition, he has wealth, something that he can use to make himself better, I didn't have resources, I couldn't afford mental care, I fixed myself by observing and understanding what's right and what's wrong.
I can speak comfortably now, I can make friends, and I've reached a very comfortable position in life.
It's a choice, the mental issues and stress in life doesn't lead you to do that...
He chose to care more about his own pain than consider the idea that others might be going through the same thing.
What he has is not mental disorder, but a bad case of self-loathe.
He chose to do that and he should suffer the consequence at it's fullest.
me to i had problem with talking to ppl but when i grow up i realised theres more to life u know
Hope u feel better soon! Virtual hug! :(
I'm so glad to hear that you took a different approach and worked hard to help yourself get through the darkness. I commend you and acknowledge how difficult that must have been! 🫶🏼💕
Kinda same for me
People are just built different.
We had one in Australia named Sef Gonzales. His upper middle class parents gave him a university education and a car. He didn't want to work or work hard at studying. He wanted the estate and considered himself a pop singer. He murdered his parents and sister.
WHY did he do that
@@JinaMukherjeeFThere is no justification. None.
@@peaceful3250 goddamn thats scary
It seems their fault to raise that evil
@@JinaMukherjeeF @ZoeSpinnet explains the case in detail.
2 Bad his Daddy was 2 busy Making BIG MONEY , 2 notice or even care 2 notice the many Mental Issues that afflicted his son .
He was trapped inside his head, and his perception of reality was so warped. His insecurities manifested in narcissism.
This is a sad case for all involved. I hope we can improve mental health care for minors. We need to care for children before they become adults and their minds are harder to change.
Condolences to all of the victims.
Well, we’re not, they now all think they are transgenders!
😢 very true
Aptly put
Most autistics are narcissists. I am one and I recognise it.
The thing is,,,there's apathetic, empathetic and sadistic narcissism
Empathetic narcissists are easily manipulated as the feel a divine responsibility to save serve or just prioritise, everyone other than themselves.
I suspect this guy is sadistic.
Plus he had a high rejection dysphoria which is also a common trait with autism.
yeah
Ive watched this same story about twice before, but I literally felt like it was the first time hearing it because of how good you narrated it !! Keep up the great work!!
this kid had NO IDEA how REALLY unfair this world really is, its disgusting to think about, he had a wonderful life he never ever knew hardship or UNFAIRNESS
he must have been very mentally ill as you say since he was a kid and parents didnt see that so he never saw a therapist who might have helped but not sure
i mean how can you help someone who thinks he was meant to win a lottery ticket of 650 million dollares? he was shattered he really thought he was going to win, thats a serious mental issue
I wonder if he ever approached any girls. He's a good-looking, well-spoken guy, he could get first dates with the minimum of effort. I suspect perhaps he never spoke to any girls, and then blamed the girls for not throwing themselves at him.
It's sad anyone ever feels like this, but there's no excuses for what he did. He had enough money to get help and figure out his issues rather than let them stir into a Tsunami 😢😢😢
What's even worse is he is a good looking guy. There's no reason why he couldn't be able to get a girlfriend. Maybe if he spent as much time trying to talk to girls as he did whining, he might have found someone.
He expected women to search HIM out. Also, why didn't he just go on some dating app?
Money's meaningless if you don't think you have a 'problem' in the first place.
@@IdahoRanchGirl It sounds like he had problems with forming relationships from early on, and as said, he was teased/bullied by girls at one point and not accepted by the cool kids even though he thought his wealth would be a free pass. So, I'd guess coming back from this to a 'healthy' outlook wasn't possible, especially when you get constant negative feedback online and no group of friends to fullback on. Being 'normal' is not a switch you can just flip on and off. I'd say with his problems a dating app and any rejection wouldn't have helped. People like this have always been in or cast out of society...ever seen the film Carrie? But society will not believe they had any part in this...
I know exactly what you mean but, having been inexplicably like him in my youth, it's impossible to just snap out of it. The expression you use is quite ironic because money wouldn't stop an actual tsunami, and when self-loathing hatred is imbedded within your heart, soul, psyche, or whatever, there is no cure. I'm all grown up, loved and respected now, but I'm still haunted by cringe moments and hatred of bullies in my past.
His family did try from what I take from the story. As far as having a partner there is no right anyone has to demand one. The whole story is unfortunate don't get me wrong but it's nonsense at the same time. He looked 13 in a world of mature college men and women, not his fault but that didn't entitle him to special treatment. It's just life, either you find a way to navigate it or you don't.
I have met a guy like him. It was creepy to just sit next to him. He didn’t wanted a girlfriend but a servant that was going to cook, clean and bare his kids. He was keeping saying that he was the most perfect man, well dressed and with money.. what people don’t understand it’s that if you don’t attract people, the problem is not always because you’re not physically attractive, but it might be your personality. But if you’re a narcissist person, you’ll never realise it.
And the fact that many men here are emphatic with him saying that we (women) created this monster, you can see where the real problem is
This!! Seriously terrifying. And they make fun of us for going to the bathroom together and mad about us saying “sorry I have a boyfriend.” We could literally be killed for saying “no thanks” WOMEN DONT OWE YOU SHIT. We have every right to be left the fuck alone and not find you attractive.
@@morgancollier8783 completely agree. He also told me he didn’t like animals because “they don’t take care of you when you’re older” and “I would not like to have my house dirty because of animals”, made me realise that he only saw people as his own possessions. The eventual wife or kids were just a possession. He was 42, and luckily didn’t had any kids.. I didn’t had any problems in understanding why. I am 36, single, because I didn’t met yet the person that wants to have a commitment. So reading “I’m single because women have high standards” it’s so stupid 🙄
You're forgetting the reason why he has a deep hatred towards women was because if you didn't listen to the documentary. He was bullied brutally when he was young by a group of girls and it only got worse when they rejected or bullied him continously throughout his life. Some kids brush it off, others hold a grudge. Again this is no excuse to have the thought process of what he has but still for someone mentally broken as him, it makes sense. Same like how depression for me doesn't make sense and is a western concept of weakness but here we are. What you met was a normal guy who hated women. Full stop. Elliot obtained hatred from past trauma. It has nothing to do with your "nice guys" and your assumption of "He was one of those guys".
Edit: 36 and single, that would explain you more than the people you meet. And if you've been in many relationships and had problems constantly, it's your choice in men. So all I'm seeing is "I'm 36 and a sleezebag". Commitment has nothing to do with it, you can easily walk into a bar, club, establishment and flirt with the ugliest-most average guy there and there's a good chance they might be the perfect husband despite what they look like. Men have it harder, it's already proven. Women, no matter how ugly, obese, disease ridden, they can always find a partner. And I mean always. Men have to have a status, a certain attractiveness, a certain income to even be considered an option by even the most average looking woman. So the statement "Single women or women in general have high standards" is mostly true.
@@S30S30Ayumi of course I had listened otherwise I wouldn’t have commented. You probably have no knowledge of psychology and it’s fair, but sometimes people are born with problems from the very beginning. If you listened to the documentary, you’d know that his own family knew he had problems but didn’t know how to help him, shortly. A lot of people get bullied, but not all of them turn out to be killers. And lol, I like how you judge someone over the internet 😂 where I wrote I had many relationships? Because I haven’t. Bet you’re a man.
theres no way people are empathizing with this incel
6:25 His problem is not social anxiety, but rather his Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He hits most of the major markers based on the little that we have here. 1. Everything that he does or happens to him is vastly overblown. Not “my life doesn’t seem fait.” No. “The WPRLD is not fair (what happens to him is the whole world in his mind. Combine that with grandiose thought an you understand why he chose to delete others. He didn’t hare them. They probably annoyed him, and so they became bit players in his grand finale.
They said that at 14:00
He "couldn't believe" he didn't win the 656 million lottery!? What evil, mean banknotes just torturing him with their absence.
Haha, every time I play, rarely play it now, I always think I'm going to win. It's probably a universal thing. Most people think that, or dream up stuff they are going to do when they win.
He feels overly entitled to everything. Literally
Meanwhile he was literally rich and got a thousand-dollar allowance like what, weekly? He bragged about his 300$ glasses, too. Switched schools constantly and was able to afford his own car. He had no concept of his privilege.
Honestly, it’s truly sad to see anyone suffer from their own mind to this magnitude.
Meh. I'm used to it. Problem is that some people are genuinely intelligent but don't learn how to recognize it. He had to open his mind to realize that there are going to be women out there who legitimately choose a worse option when all the information is available to them, then the tragedy switches to a comedy. You can live the rest of your life roasting others instead of murdering them. It is sad, but what's more sad is when someone doesn't overcome it.
It's not his mind he was suffering from it was his environment.
@@user-fp6rn2km4i bro he has personality disorders. Environment? His dad and step mom made sure he received higher education, gave him a lot of money and freedom. Most of the kids from this type of environment turn out to be peaceful people
@@user-fp6rn2km4i He was mentally ill please be for real
@@TimJSwanhis problem was, that he rated average and below average people like "trash, scums" etc.
I currently work with someone with severe mental health problems, and have been present for two of their complete emotional breakdowns. Multiple co-workers and I have expressed concern many times to management with no action. I wish red flags were absolutely taken seriously.
What's his name n what does he do?
@@girl38rockifyOut of respect for this person and their mental health struggles, why does that matter?
@philn5703 You're writing about it in YT comments. Can't just expect people to not be curious and ask questions.
You never know who's lives you could be saving by making sure those red flags are taken seriously. Please, for the potential safety of yourself, co-workers, and others, speak louder! Be heard! Because what's worse, doing something about it and being wrong or doing nothing about it and being right?
is it only teenagers who think people that work should act perfect all the time or get fired? life is complex and difficult, please don't pretend you have a degree in psychology or social work and diagnose 'severe mental health problems' and tell on them after seeing someone cry at work. You did your part and spoke up, now back off and mind your business.
Someone having a complete emotional breakdown sounds like a woman to me and women are 99.9% less likely to shoot people up than men so move along. People love getting people fired, they get huge boners from it. You do realize everyone has to work to eat and have a roof over their head so maybe adjust your perception and learn to be a little kinder.
*Holding in your emotions* can be more detrimental to your mental health. Something like 80% of people bullied at work are probably women. Testosterone seems to make people more violent, it's primarily men who commit violent acts, something like 98% of violent acts are by men historically.
Why would you alert management about something you're afraid of, then be pissed they did nothing, if you're not just trying to ruin someone's life? You don't REALLY think your coworker that's naturally stressed by an uncaring, pressure filled, cutthroat, competitive, male-loving environment is going to shoot you do you
Here, let me show you the difference between actually caring about someone and just trying to get rid of someone who makes you look bad because you suck at your job:
Caring: be kinder to the person, ask if they need help with anything they're working on, pitch in and help them with dumb annoying things everyone hates to do to help take some of the load off, stay a few extra minutes to help clean up mutual work spaces, listen to them talk, really listen.
Trying to get rid of someone because they make you look bad and you suck at your job: Alerting management after seeing someone cry and suggesting they should be fired for having mental health issues because you know almost nothing and are super afraid so you just push them out.
Literally every person who snaps has this long history of feeling shunned and mistreated. Society's solution the entire time was to push them out of the inner circles then act surprised when they snap.
*Hey wow society can actually prevent this!*
Be kinder to outsiders even when you don't understand them. Be more helpful. Learn to be a good listener. These things are not difficult yet people act like it's so super hard because all they care about is being part of the popular or powerful group. Not having hierarchies like this would help too. Stop telling outsiders they are not part of the group just because you've not sought to understand them or you're afraid. You being afraid is your problem to solve, not the person you're trying to eject from the environment. Work on yourself!
'no ones invited me to parties, no girls are attracted to me' 12:18 duddeeeeeee frrr i can see why
A guy who never blamed himself. He should've seen a psychiatrist early on.
Precisely. He didn't understand that the vicious cycle he was in was all caused by himself. He projected and blamed others..
@@Hamppzah No it was his parents fault the system failed him
@@Hamppzah Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
I think the parents definitely could of helped him with his self loathing and self esteem long before it turned into hate for everyone els.
@@utha2665 to some extent, yes