Well done. What a story! Can't imagine what Zephany and her parents must have gone through. I won't ever be able to forgive her kidnapper mom if I was in their shoes but respect to her for raising her right and without abuse.
She wasn't always like this..she didn't want anything to do with her biological parents at 1st but I think after she became her mother..I remember her saying in the begging " I didn't need saving" and I thought how cruel,after what her parents found her
Definitely. It’s such a mind f of a situation. Especially in the cases where the kidnapped child shuns the biological parent in favor of the kidnapper. I’m glad she seems to be very grounded about it all. I can imagine her biological parents, it might be hard for them that she’s so empathetic. It’s just so messed up for everyone. Her father who raised her unwittingly, of course herself but also her bio parents and her sister. I mean, it had to be hard on them all. I can imagine her sister probably has dealt with a range of emotions also.
I feel so sorry for the biological mother, I feel like no one understands her side of this tragedy. That she's still grieving the loss of her daughter worse now though she's alive. No amount of jail time for the mother that kidnapped her daughter will ever close that would. May the God of justice comfort her and all affected.
You’re right, and I’m sorry but it seems to me that the selfishness that her mom showed by stealing her, it shows in this girl, who just because this woman gave her a good life, she won’t acknowledge how horrible it was stealing her and hurting Everyone! Including her and man that raised her 😔
@@claudiatheroux2040she acknowledged it! If only you paid attention! She covered everything beautifully. How this act was selfish but also how she never received counselling after multiple miscarriages and her own Trauma. She has an amazing relationship with the dad who raised her though, and clearly states things won’t be the same with the mom who raised her. She’s just grateful that family were kind to her, doesn’t mean she doesn’t consider the abduction evil.
I saw this young lady in previous interviews shortly after the story broke. I was so heartbrroken to see the rift between her and her biological parents. I am so grateful that I was able to see the restoration that God has provided for them. I hope her parents find God too.
As someone who grew up knowing this story, I never understood why she decided not to go with her biological family immediately, but I completely understand now that the compassion towards the family that raised her and loyalty really was a factor. She is truly a shining example of God turning things around for good in the end. Thank you Josh for allowing her to tell her side of the story. Thank you Miché for being brave enough to find your voice and let God do the work in and through you. Your light shines bright.. Jeremiah 29:11 🙌
It would be like meeting a family in a mall at 14 and going home to live with them. Except for her sister, they were complete strangers with different habits, lifestyles, and everything. Even older children that are abducted and are found a decade later, they don’t fit in, in either family any longer. I remember one boy (abducted by a man) found and he was in his teens when found and was not fitting in with his ‘real’ family. So sad. There was another story of a boy found that even later became a cop and then died in a crash. Some people have such tragedies in their lives. 💔
It's ZEPHANY 😂 anyway,you're correct and I share that sentiment I was so upset when I heared she went back to that house of the kidnapper... I mean it must have been a nightmare in real life 😢
She had no idea she was kidnapped so imagine someone coming and just telling you all your family are actors and it’s all a set and nothing is real that’s why she didn’t click with her real family obviously
1. Humans naturally gravitate towards the familiar 2. The family that raised her really loved her. I love my family, and they love me back. If was to find out today that they stole me at birth, while empathizing with my hypothetical bio-fam I'd still gravitate towards my current family because it's all I've known, all my life experiences are with them.
I can still remember how yoir grandma and grandpa/ Pastor Nurse. They didnt give up. They never stopped praying. I can remember how your Ma Nurse spoke about you. I was in tears when i found put about yoi Zephaney. I can remember the times when Celeste and Morne went through at that time. We live aroind the corner.
@@Turtle12o992@Turtle12o992 I agree, and he let her take the fall and then encouraged Zaphany to talk to his wife when she was in jail and Zaphany was trying to set boundaries.
@@yorkiesmom5994 think i read somewhere that her "mom" was also pregnent but had misscarage and was using fake belly, pretending she gave birth.. Sry for the cringe english, its kinda late here... 😴😴
This was one of the best podcasts I’ve ever watched, really raw and emotional!! I think we now need a podcast with the biological parents so we as the viewers can also hear their POV.
I was hurt when she said " the system was protecting me from a criminal, yet I know her as my mother, I wanted my mother" the same system was hurting me.
I feel for her....what a very difficult situation to find yourself in as a teenager, none the wiser that this is the only dearly beloved mother that you knew but unfortunately, that is the fate for all of us in this,sometimes cruel world 💔 to bare the dreadful consequences of happenings. I hope that it will be helpful for her to know in her heart, how beloved she were for her very young, at that time ,birth parents. May it comfort her to know how they looked and searched for her and really battled to find her. I do hope and pray, that this very kind and wonderful lady will be blessed with many, many happy memories and time with her birth parents ,may God bless her and her husband and children
She was taken as a newborn baby. Her experience is of a mother looking after her and giving her love. That is a human emotional way of thinking. Thank your lucky stars you didn't have to go through that experience.
1. Of all the babies in the hospital Levona chooses a baby whose parents live some streets away from her and raises the child in the same area. They probably crossed paths every day travelling to work and shops. Close, but hidden. 2. The baby’s name Zephany which means according to the interview “ one who is hidden” like she was. 3. The school she attends is in the next neighbourhood but coincidentally her sister attends the same school instead of the local one in their area. So many co incidences and I believe she is correct when she says God has a purpose for her. May God be your light and guide. Wishing you and your birthmom much love and healing.
There is a family or friend link also between the parents ... school kids noticed the resemblesed and these mutual people couldn't. She dont even resemble her parents who raised her.
I swear this is my favourite episode. So beautiful. One thing I can take away from this is how God can use one person to bring about change to the world. Zephany, may the Almighty's light and favour forever reign over your life.
Thank u Lord for restoration of Zephanys life yes only God knows why Levona do not speak out and face reality God is the way the truth and life the truth wil set her free and every one in this case shall indeed be free God bless you Zephany you are an Angel from heaven to this world Strong's Be bless and God bless 🎉 Hallelujah Amen 😢
What a disastrous human catastrophe! Zephany's psychological insights are quite remarkable - an indication of the sound quality of her early child raising, all to be thrown into utter human chaos and tragedy. Zephany's story is a heartfelt testimony to human resilience. The irony and reality is that her formative years were based on genuine love and caring by a mother who performed a criminal act to have a child, and a father who was unaware of the reality. An extremely well conducted and presented interview.
I remember growing up following up on this story, I'm 23 now & really glad we got to hear her side of the story. She really tells her story so beautifully!
When you started ministering at the end ... wow, it was so powerful. Praise God for turning your ashes into beauty and well done for being obediant to follow His prompting! You are going to touch so many broken women.
I don't know how this ended up on my timeline, but it definitely helped me. I wasn't kidnapped, but was conceived in an affair and can relate to the identity crisis that I've had to go through. Zephany, thank you! Keep letting God use you.
I’m also a child of an affair….my mom was cheating on her boyfriend & my dad was cheating on his wife…..It’s def kinda weird wen I’ve told friends my story or I actually thought about it
I hate stories like this. I feel so terrible for the bio parents. To see your child have such love for people who literally tore your heart apart must be gut wrenching
I agree, but it’s also important to consider that the kidnapper may have been suffering from severe untreated postpartum depression, which likely fueled her desperation. While her actions were undeniably horrible, they seem to stem from a place of immense emotional and psychological pain. It’s a heartbreaking situation with no true winners.
They were the only parents she ever knew and it sounds like she was loved and treated well by them so it's understandable that the whole thing must have been very difficult.
Beautiful video. I remember her story all over the news in 2015 and so glad we finally get to hear her version all these years later. So glad to see that you’re okay Zephany you’re so well articulated and selfless despite the rollercoaster of a journey you’ve been through.
I’ve read about this in newspapers, heard about it on the news and recently watched the documentary, but nothing tops this. I really appreciated hearing her story from her. It’s so nice how you give people this platform to be heard (and technically be seen too). Keep doing what you’re doing ❤
I remember being hurt by this girl reading that she had basically chosen her kidnapper. This interview has helped me to see her in a different light. The trauma and confusion she went thru! What a beautiful woman she has become, understanding what both her moms went thru. I wish her nothing but the best for the future❤
What a remarkable young woman! Hats off to her! I'm busy writing my own book, I actually stopped, but because of her, I'm going to start again! You're a great interviewer, Josh.
Josh you are now a master interviewer and your experience with interviewing people with very strong dramatic and sensitive stories shows well done boet.
Zephany is very strong, may the mighty God keep on empowering her. It is mind blowing to comprehend what she went and is still going through. She was definitely made for a bigger purpose, much bigger than human understanding. May the mighty God heal her biological parents. I don't know how they made it through for 17 years not knowing what happened to their doctor. It must have been a torture to live through those gruesome days, months which turned to be years of heartbreaking and confusion. Prays God their sanity remained intact. May God continue to protect them! To the woman who kidnapped her, may God forgive her of what she did! May she also forgives herself.
I’m happy to hear her refer to her biological mother as “my mother” cos when I watched her documentary on Showmax she didn’t want to acknowledge her biological mom and chose her other family. It broke my heart but I’m thrilled to hear her refer to them as “my mom and dad”.
She's strong! I would never see my parents the same again after finding out that they kidnapped me🥺😢🙆🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ Taking someone else's child is diabolical, she didnt have to go through this.
@@ValenciaValentin-t2nas much as I want to say the same also out of emotion instead; her actions were evil and she shouldn’t have stolen a baby from the hospital. It’s really easy to say she’s evil if she showed no emotion, and if there wasn’t a reason why she did what she did similar to the one gave. Seems like a broken mom who lost too many babies unborn and lost alive that she got so desperate she decided to steal a baby to fill that void. (Not that justifies her taking the baby.) if only people like the kidnapper here decided to adopt a baby, got a baby from a mom who didn’t want the baby and wanted to give the baby to her.
I was a young mum at that time 1996.son 3 and my daughter 5 .. and when this kidnapping took place it sent shivers down my spine . I was living in blackheath that time 🍂♥️Stay well young lady ❤all the best with ur future ❤❤love Auckland New Zealand 🇳🇿 ❤️
Wow, Zephany, I am in the US and have never heard about this story until now. Praise God for your restoration. Your identity is in Him! Hallelujah! I want to read your book now!
I had 19 miscarriages and 1 still birth..after years I got my baby ,she's a little younger than Zephany Nurse and because of her case ,my daughter had a 24-hour watch in the hospital. (Family) Also, maternity hospital safety policies have been changed , but if I never had my daughter I could never take another.
I remember this story on the news growing up...truly heartbreaking. The emotions she must have felt discovering her true identity and the confusion that came with it are unimaginable. What makes this even more complex is that she had a safe and loving relationship with the woman who abducted her, which must have added an entirely new layer of emotional turmoil. It’s a powerful reminder of the strength and resilience of the human spirit, even in the face of such profound trauma. My heart goes out to her and her family as they continue to heal from this extraordinary ordeal
Great Work Josh! This was a brilliant interview,. Youre playing a huge role in facilitating and documenting real South African stories and history. Keep u the good work chief!!👊💯
The person who kidnapped her really messed up her life. She is a good person and super friendly. And I feel as much as she was discovered Zephany did not want to be with her real family. It's like they had joy and sadness. I wonder if being a mother will help her to understand the pain her family feels.
This is my first time watching your podcasts @wideawakepodcast . Your interviewing skills are top-notch. You actually listen, and you don't interrupt. The environment is warm, and I'd say she is calm and collected after everything she's gone through! Bless her ❤. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
She speaks with so much wisdom, you can see she has done the internal work! She is a beautiful person inside and out! This story still gives me goosebumps! Thank you so much for this interview!
This is my first time hearing about this. This story is painful but at the same time beautiful to see how beautiful her upbringing was being raised by her abductor. I was busting in tears through out this interview. It’s the kind of tale that breaks your heart and yet makes you feel something profound at the same time. It’s like a sad song that you can’t help but love. I think the mother that raised her is not a bad person by the way that she describe her, but she was very desparate because of the miscarriages and end up making a bad choice by kidnapping a child. At the same time she was very selfish for not even think of how the biological parents would live after what she did. Who is the best person to cover the story other than Josh, this guy deserves an Award
I feel so much for her. Can relate in some way. At 16 my Mother introduced me to a man I never knew and told me that he is my bio Father, and that the man who raised me is not my Father. More than 10 years later I still feel like my life is a lie.
She has grown,now she understand how her biological parents feel after the birth of her own children, she used to be so naive, getting so angry when the kidnapper was jailed, saying that's her mother.
Listening to your story has truly moved me. I can’t imagine the strength it must take to share such painful memories. I hope you continue to find healing and peace
To be honest, it is so unfair that you have to wait for a better time to ask your forced adopted mother to tell you the whole truth. At this point she should be prepared to tell you the whole truth because she owes you that much.
You handled this so well. I remember the heartbreak across the country when this happened. How this young lady has coped is phenomenal. So glad to see her smiling.
The kidnapper should never be released from prison. She didn't only ruin the lives of the biological parents but mostly zephany's mindset, psychological, and the way she looks at her biological family. Its a life sentence for them, and they didn't ask for this. So sad😢
Desire for retribution is evil. If she is not going to hurt anyone else, then she should be released. She needs mental health counseling. Two wrongs don't make a right. Enough harm has taken place. Love and forgiveness is the only thing that heals.
This was so powerful. So many people are searching for purpose and it can only come from Christ. Hurting those who hurt you won't bring healing. Having perfect lives with no hurt wont make us healthier. Our only help comes from God. Zephany, your story is amazing, your courage and strength is inspiring. The Lord will use you in great ways. May the Lord continue to heal you and those you love on both sides. May the Lord continue to grow your voice. Thank you ❤
Wow! I’ve heard about Zephany’s story before so it’s amazing to actually hear her story straight from her. What a beautiful soul! This was such an incredible interview 💖
Our oldest was born 11 months after Zephany disappeared from hospital. My husband were given strict instructions to follow our son everywhere, all because of what happened to Zephany. The nurse said you can wait here Sir. He ignored her and followed him everywhere. This is still sooo sad.
This was really amazing to watch. I was also in high school when this story broke out and I remember how it just blew up in the news and it’s something that just kind of stuck with me over the years. I loved watching the documentary and getting the full picture of what actually went down, but it was very refreshing to just listen to her speak about how she experienced everything and how it affected her. You did a great job Josh! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I dont care how much she loved this child as her own, she knew what she did, she had a choice, she was a selfish monster and yes she would have seen that poor mother pleading to bring her baby back. This is painful to the biological mom, she lost her baby twice, once in the hospital and as an adult as this baby has bonded with the monster who stole her. May God strengthen this mama, the real mama ❤
What an AMAZING, resilient and kind woman. And the laughs in between were a bonus. The host, Josh, was so good at connecting and making Zephany feel comfortable. Loved every second of this! Best wishes to Zephany.
Thank you Josh for creating a platform for these inspiring stories to be heard. A thing I noticed is that South Africa is a faith based nation. Keep doing what you are doing because I trust and I am excited for the future of this podcast. All Glory To God‼️ Edit Version- I felt this story could have gone much deeper 😊
I think now that she is a mother herself, she can probably imagine what her parents had gone through. When this whole thing unraveled, she had no sence of empathy..but im glad she now has a relationship with them❤
😢😢😢 So touching. Can we have her sister too and her parents please. This podcast is more informative that the news. The presenter indeed ask very good questions 👌🏾
Listening to this story, I felt so much pain for this family, but Zephany’s (Not sure what name she goes by) insight about the experience is a true testament of love and grace. We give Glory to God, for he kept you safe and loved all those years. We pray for healing over all your parents. Honor the parents who raised you, they raised an incredibly strong and beautiful soul! Morne & Celeste don’t be sad anymore, your daughter is remarkable. Love her and live in the moments you have with her now ❤
I'm going through a terrible time questioning God for the purpose of my life. I'm isolated. Thank you for talking about yourself. I know I'm not the only one going through this. You're helping me. Thank you
God loves you. Be still and know that He is God. Find a quiet space and pour your heart out and He will find a way to talk to you and guide. Those who acknowledge Him and cry out to Him, He will hear you and help you. God bless you always
@TheGirlatthewindow leave whatever situation are in and TRUST in the Lord Jesus Christ. Pray to him in desperation; but leave and go to a church-- as a start. At least then you will not be isolated. I will keep you in my prayers.
I'm so happy to have heard what transpired from Zephany's perspective. Based on previous articles and after listening to her tell her story it gives me context as to why she acted the way she did. You're amazing Zephany and your kindness is is heartwarming. Shout-out to the podcast for this episode 👏🏾.
What a remarkable lady. Praise be unto all involved. Most of all Praise be unto God. As a great grand mother I followed your story. Your Purpose is very huge. I pray that you and family members find peace love, and joy. I will continue to ptay for you. Strength, heath and goodness to follow you all the days of your life. From a Cape flats prayer warrior. I send you God's love in Jesus Christ name ❤
I was devastated when reading in the news that you chose the Solomons family. I even stopped to follow your case because I felt sad fot your bio parents. Now that I have heard your side I sympathize with everyone involved.
@LizT207 This isn't your story and if it were maybe you would do the same..that was in the beginning because that was all she knew..that was her safety net. She didn't know her biological parents...
I'm listening as one who was adopted, was ever told that I was. One day a letter can through the post saying that your birth mother is looking for you. She said that people know things about you that you never knew about yourself, I can identify with this and then also having to suppress things to protect everybody around. It's a very difficult situation. So sad The woman who stole the baby I just can't imagine how low and desperate she must of had to have been to do that. I can't judge her. It was wrong but I feel so sorry for her. And then as a mother again for someone to steal your baby I don't know what I would do. We talk alot about Human behaviour as critics. I think that we have to be more quiet in our judgements Because unless you are tht person going through it you don't have a clue.
I know this may be a bit invasive... but ive always wanted to adopt a baby 1 day. What advice would you give me in managing the childs identity, conversations around that and maybe the appropriate age to start having those kinda talks?
I am glad u got us to hear her story, watched the news yrs ago a d i cried and i cried today, cant imagine what her parents went through and what she went through after finding out about her true identity, but m glad she was loved and cared for by her abductor and her family. She turned out to be such a strong resident lady .
This is absolutely an incredible situation. I feel deep empathy for everyone involved. This young woman is so strong and inspiring. I pray her and both families were able to take the lessons presented- with something so life altering that’s all we can really do. Thank you for sharing your story-the work you have done on yourself is very evident. Shalom ~Angie
She appears to be an amazing person! My heart BREAKS when I listen to all of this!The complexity of it all! Zephany's emotional intelligence is on another level! Her empathy is very drawing! How, that, through all pain and suffering, her insight and judgement to realise that their are others involved is STRIKING! She's somewhat of a protagonist and an advocate, an ENFJ-INFJ mix. Well done to Josh, for an amazing interview. PS: Could we also acknowledge the social workers and psychologist? Such amazing individuals!
I have been following this story for as long as I can remember. I am currently 24 and I think of Zephany so often. This interview is inspiring, eye-opening, I am in awe at everything. What an incredible woman, and now mom too! Well done on the incredible episode Josh, this was so great to hear. I almost feel at ease hearing it from her side of things ❤
This interview kept me riveted. Zephany, you are such a beautiful person inside and out. You are an inspiration. Love how you eloquently and humbly tell your story from the heart. Love your energy. Josh , big thumbs up to a job well done. You are talented and very sincere . You tactfully ask all the right questions .... Amazing work both of you. Thank you to both of you for a beautiful podcast. ❤
Hey everyone, this episode has literally been years in the making. If you enjoyed it, let me know your thoughts in the comments and leave a like! 🙌🏼
Great work!
Josh, this episode is my favourite so far ❤ thank you!
Well done. What a story! Can't imagine what Zephany and her parents must have gone through. I won't ever be able to forgive her kidnapper mom if I was in their shoes but respect to her for raising her right and without abuse.
Josh you legend! Smashed it again!
This woman who abducted the baby, ruined a family. The child is obviously suffering from Stockholm syndrome 😢 I feel for the birth mother 😢
You can tell she had good counselling sessions, she’s very self aware and very understanding of everyone’s perspective in this situation.
She's so empathetic
Or she jsit had a great family even though the circumstances
Lots of prayers. God restored her.
How she knew she was kidnapped. And why she look so excited for it
@@rowenramnath2016 she had a great childhood that's why
She's so empathetic. It's impressive how she puts herself in everyone shoes. This must have been so heartbreaking,I hope everyone heals.
Especially as the innocent child in this whole saga.
She wasn't always like this..she didn't want anything to do with her biological parents at 1st but I think after she became her mother..I remember her saying in the begging " I didn't need saving" and I thought how cruel,after what her parents found her
Definitely. It’s such a mind f of a situation. Especially in the cases where the kidnapped child shuns the biological parent in favor of the kidnapper. I’m glad she seems to be very grounded about it all. I can imagine her biological parents, it might be hard for them that she’s so empathetic. It’s just so messed up for everyone. Her father who raised her unwittingly, of course herself but also her bio parents and her sister. I mean, it had to be hard on them all. I can imagine her sister probably has dealt with a range of emotions also.
I feel so sorry for the biological mother, I feel like no one understands her side of this tragedy. That she's still grieving the loss of her daughter worse now though she's alive. No amount of jail time for the mother that kidnapped her daughter will ever close that would. May the God of justice comfort her and all affected.
You’re right, and I’m sorry but it seems to me that the selfishness that her mom showed by stealing her, it shows in this girl, who just because this woman gave her a good life, she won’t acknowledge how horrible it was stealing her and hurting Everyone! Including her and man that raised her 😔
@claudiatheroux2040 absolutely!
Bullshit. This woman STOLE another woman's child and lied to everyone, including the child. She destroyed that family.
@@claudiatheroux2040she acknowledged it! If only you paid attention! She covered everything beautifully. How this act was selfish but also how she never received counselling after multiple miscarriages and her own Trauma. She has an amazing relationship with the dad who raised her though, and clearly states things won’t be the same with the mom who raised her. She’s just grateful that family were kind to her, doesn’t mean she doesn’t consider the abduction evil.
Absolutely!
She has grown so much since she was a teenager. Having her own kids gave her some insight into what her parents went through.
Very very true
ABSOLUTELY TRUE..I remember how she was initially ..
I saw this young lady in previous interviews shortly after the story broke. I was so heartbrroken to see the rift between her and her biological parents. I am so grateful that I was able to see the restoration that God has provided for them. I hope her parents find God too.
@@venessastewart829why do yall keep losing God ?
As someone who grew up knowing this story, I never understood why she decided not to go with her biological family immediately, but I completely understand now that the compassion towards the family that raised her and loyalty really was a factor.
She is truly a shining example of God turning things around for good in the end. Thank you Josh for allowing her to tell her side of the story. Thank you Miché for being brave enough to find your voice and let God do the work in and through you. Your light shines bright..
Jeremiah 29:11 🙌
The kidnapper raised her well and loved her. She couldn't just switch love immediately
It would be like meeting a family in a mall at 14 and going home to live with them. Except for her sister, they were complete strangers with different habits, lifestyles, and everything. Even older children that are abducted and are found a decade later, they don’t fit in, in either family any longer. I remember one boy (abducted by a man) found and he was in his teens when found and was not fitting in with his ‘real’ family. So sad. There was another story of a boy found that even later became a cop and then died in a crash. Some people have such tragedies in their lives. 💔
It's ZEPHANY 😂 anyway,you're correct and I share that sentiment I was so upset when I heared she went back to that house of the kidnapper...
I mean it must have been a nightmare in real life 😢
She had no idea she was kidnapped so imagine someone coming and just telling you all your family are actors and it’s all a set and nothing is real that’s why she didn’t click with her real family obviously
1. Humans naturally gravitate towards the familiar
2. The family that raised her really loved her.
I love my family, and they love me back. If was to find out today that they stole me at birth, while empathizing with my hypothetical bio-fam I'd still gravitate towards my current family because it's all I've known, all my life experiences are with them.
Great work Josh! finally got to hear from her perspective and not the "media"
Really appreciate it! She tells her own story better than they ever could! 🙌🏻
I can still remember how yoir grandma and grandpa/ Pastor Nurse. They didnt give up. They never stopped praying. I can remember how your Ma Nurse spoke about you. I was in tears when i found put about yoi Zephaney. I can remember the times when Celeste and Morne went through at that time. We live aroind the corner.
@@YolandaDebeer-f2o Thanks Josh Super smart broadcast wait for biogicall parents interview stongs
The lady who kidnapped her definitely did not work alone
Husband was involved that’s why
How did she forge her birth certificate? That's the part I don't understand
@@Turtle12o992@Turtle12o992 I agree, and he let her take the fall and then encouraged Zaphany to talk to his wife when she was in jail and Zaphany was trying to set boundaries.
me 2 how she put her in school or take to the doctor??@@yorkiesmom5994
@@yorkiesmom5994 think i read somewhere that her "mom" was also pregnent but had misscarage and was using fake belly, pretending she gave birth.. Sry for the cringe english, its kinda late here... 😴😴
This was one of the best podcasts I’ve ever watched, really raw and emotional!! I think we now need a podcast with the biological parents so we as the viewers can also hear their POV.
Defnitly
I could not agree more!
I was hurt when she said " the system was protecting me from a criminal, yet I know her as my mother, I wanted my mother" the same system was hurting me.
😢😢
I feel for her....what a very difficult situation to find yourself in as a teenager, none the wiser that this is the only dearly beloved mother that you knew but unfortunately, that is the fate for all of us in this,sometimes cruel world 💔 to bare the dreadful consequences of happenings.
I hope that it will be helpful for her to know in her heart, how beloved she were for her very young, at that time ,birth parents. May it comfort her to know how they looked and searched for her and really battled to find her.
I do hope and pray, that this very kind and wonderful lady will be blessed with many, many happy memories and time with her birth parents ,may God bless her and her husband and children
She was telling her truth not what we want to hear
She meant that she felt her pain, having to go through something like that. @@jasminetoffa2017
She was taken as a newborn baby. Her experience is of a mother looking after her and giving her love. That is a human emotional way of thinking. Thank your lucky stars you didn't have to go through that experience.
1. Of all the babies in the hospital Levona chooses a baby whose parents live some streets away from her and raises the child in the same area. They probably crossed paths every day travelling to work and shops. Close, but hidden.
2. The baby’s name Zephany which means according to the interview “ one who is hidden” like she was.
3. The school she attends is in the next neighbourhood but coincidentally her sister attends the same school instead of the local one in their area.
So many co incidences and I believe she is correct when she says God has a purpose for her. May God be your light and guide. Wishing you and your birthmom much love and healing.
So they lived in the same area yooh this was torture to her biological mother
yes because the trauma of her child still caring about someone who literally put her through hell has to sting without therapy and healing
No coincidences. Just meant to be. God aligns things by not mere coincidence but for purpose.
Absolutely 💯
There is a family or friend link also between the parents ... school kids noticed the resemblesed and these mutual people couldn't. She dont even resemble her parents who raised her.
Such an emotionally intelligent and articulate young woman. Wishing her only the very best for the future.
I swear this is my favourite episode. So beautiful. One thing I can take away from this is how God can use one person to bring about change to the world. Zephany, may the Almighty's light and favour forever reign over your life.
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Thank u Lord for restoration of Zephanys life yes only God knows why Levona do not speak out and face reality God is the way the truth and life the truth wil set her free and every one in this case shall indeed be free God bless you Zephany you are an Angel from heaven to this world Strong's Be bless and God bless 🎉 Hallelujah Amen 😢
May GOD take you from strength to strength an glory to glory ❤
I love that Zephany has found her identity in Christ🙌🏾 what the enemy meant for evil, God has made it good🙏🏾 what a journey!!
What a disastrous human catastrophe! Zephany's psychological insights are quite remarkable - an indication of the sound quality of her early child raising, all to be thrown into utter human chaos and tragedy. Zephany's story is a heartfelt testimony to human resilience. The irony and reality is that her formative years were based on genuine love and caring by a mother who performed a criminal act to have a child, and a father who was unaware of the reality. An extremely well conducted and presented interview.
I remember growing up following up on this story, I'm 23 now & really glad we got to hear her side of the story. She really tells her story so beautifully!
When you started ministering at the end ... wow, it was so powerful. Praise God for turning your ashes into beauty and well done for being obediant to follow His prompting! You are going to touch so many broken women.
I don't know how this ended up on my timeline, but it definitely helped me. I wasn't kidnapped, but was conceived in an affair and can relate to the identity crisis that I've had to go through. Zephany, thank you! Keep letting God use you.
I’m also a child of an affair….my mom was cheating on her boyfriend & my dad was cheating on his wife…..It’s def kinda weird wen I’ve told friends my story or I actually thought about it
Shout out to Pick 'n Pay for the cakes you've provided to the family annually. That's sweet of you.
Pick n Pay was answered too.
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I hate stories like this. I feel so terrible for the bio parents. To see your child have such love for people who literally tore your heart apart must be gut wrenching
I agree, but it’s also important to consider that the kidnapper may have been suffering from severe untreated postpartum depression, which likely fueled her desperation. While her actions were undeniably horrible, they seem to stem from a place of immense emotional and psychological pain. It’s a heartbreaking situation with no true winners.
it's better to know your child was well looked after
They were the only parents she ever knew and it sounds like she was loved and treated well by them so it's understandable that the whole thing must have been very difficult.
Beautiful video. I remember her story all over the news in 2015 and so glad we finally get to hear her version all these years later. So glad to see that you’re okay Zephany you’re so well articulated and selfless despite the rollercoaster of a journey you’ve been through.
It was the same year my son was born and I remembered the story when it broke out that she was found
I’ve read about this in newspapers, heard about it on the news and recently watched the documentary, but nothing tops this. I really appreciated hearing her story from her. It’s so nice how you give people this platform to be heard (and technically be seen too). Keep doing what you’re doing ❤
She's an empath. Feels for those around her as much as our more than herself.
I remember being hurt by this girl reading that she had basically chosen her kidnapper. This interview has helped me to see her in a different light. The trauma and confusion she went thru! What a beautiful woman she has become, understanding what both her moms went thru. I wish her nothing but the best for the future❤
What a remarkable young woman! Hats off to her! I'm busy writing my own book, I actually stopped, but because of her, I'm going to start again! You're a great interviewer, Josh.
Josh you are now a master interviewer and your experience with interviewing people with very strong dramatic and sensitive stories shows well done boet.
Oh he really is... 👌❤️
Zephany is very strong, may the mighty God keep on empowering her. It is mind blowing to comprehend what she went and is still going through. She was definitely made for a bigger purpose, much bigger than human understanding.
May the mighty God heal her biological parents. I don't know how they made it through for 17 years not knowing what happened to their doctor. It must have been a torture to live through those gruesome days, months which turned to be years of heartbreaking and confusion. Prays God their sanity remained intact. May God continue to protect them!
To the woman who kidnapped her, may God forgive her of what she did! May she also forgives herself.
I’m happy to hear her refer to her biological mother as “my mother” cos when I watched her documentary on Showmax she didn’t want to acknowledge her biological mom and chose her other family. It broke my heart but I’m thrilled to hear her refer to them as “my mom and dad”.
Yes. It’s good to hear her calling her “my mom.” She initially didn’t want to acknowledge her biological parents as mum and dad.
Not easy those who stole her and loved
She is a mother now so i think she kind of understands what her real parents went through
I don't think she refused to acknowledge them as mom and dad, I think she struggled getting to see them as her parents.
I don't like her. She's so cold. No feelings about her biological pain😢😢😢
She's strong! I would never see my parents the same again after finding out that they kidnapped me🥺😢🙆🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Taking someone else's child is diabolical, she didnt have to go through this.
I'm glad she went to jail. She is very evil and she must be jail for live.
@@ValenciaValentin-t2nas much as I want to say the same also out of emotion instead; her actions were evil and she shouldn’t have stolen a baby from the hospital. It’s really easy to say she’s evil if she showed no emotion, and if there wasn’t a reason why she did what she did similar to the one gave. Seems like a broken mom who lost too many babies unborn and lost alive that she got so desperate she decided to steal a baby to fill that void. (Not that justifies her taking the baby.) if only people like the kidnapper here decided to adopt a baby, got a baby from a mom who didn’t want the baby and wanted to give the baby to her.
I can't stop watching this . Growing up I used to read about this . Its refreshing hearing her side of the story
I was a young mum at that time 1996.son 3 and my daughter 5 .. and when this kidnapping took place it sent shivers down my spine . I was living in blackheath that time 🍂♥️Stay well young lady ❤all the best with ur future ❤❤love Auckland New Zealand 🇳🇿 ❤️
Wow, Zephany, I am in the US and have never heard about this story until now. Praise God for your restoration. Your identity is in Him! Hallelujah! I want to read your book now!
I had 19 miscarriages and 1 still birth..after years I got my baby ,she's a little younger than Zephany Nurse and because of her case ,my daughter had a 24-hour watch in the hospital. (Family) Also, maternity hospital safety policies have been changed , but if I never had my daughter I could never take another.
That makes you a better person than Lavona!!! ❤❤❤
I remember this story on the news growing up...truly heartbreaking. The emotions she must have felt discovering her true identity and the confusion that came with it are unimaginable. What makes this even more complex is that she had a safe and loving relationship with the woman who abducted her, which must have added an entirely new layer of emotional turmoil. It’s a powerful reminder of the strength and resilience of the human spirit, even in the face of such profound trauma. My heart goes out to her and her family as they continue to heal from this extraordinary ordeal
Great Work Josh! This was a brilliant interview,. Youre playing a huge role in facilitating and documenting real South African stories and history. Keep u the good work chief!!👊💯
The person who kidnapped her really messed up her life. She is a good person and super friendly. And I feel as much as she was discovered Zephany did not want to be with her real family. It's like they had joy and sadness. I wonder if being a mother will help her to understand the pain her family feels.
Yoh, the pain they endured all those years because of someone else's selfishness.
If you had watched the whole interview then you would know
This is my first time watching your podcasts @wideawakepodcast . Your interviewing skills are top-notch. You actually listen, and you don't interrupt. The environment is warm, and I'd say she is calm and collected after everything she's gone through! Bless her ❤.
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This interview has given me so much hope. It is amazing how she has healed.
What a beautiful testimony! No matter what you go through in life, there is always hope and restoration.
Incredible difficult position for a 17 year old. Her life was torn apart at a sensitive age. There is good in everyone.
So true. I'm amazed she didn't fall apart. This is so devastating 😢
Amazing podcast . I am glad she found healing . Keep it up Josh , we need more in depth conversations like this .
Wow, what a powerful testimony and wonderful interview. God Bless Zephany!
She speaks with so much wisdom, you can see she has done the internal work! She is a beautiful person inside and out! This story still gives me goosebumps! Thank you so much for this interview!
This is my first time hearing about this. This story is painful but at the same time beautiful to see how beautiful her upbringing was being raised by her abductor. I was busting in tears through out this interview. It’s the kind of tale that breaks your heart and yet makes you feel something profound at the same time. It’s like a sad song that you can’t help but love.
I think the mother that raised her is not a bad person by the way that she describe her, but she was very desparate because of the miscarriages and end up making a bad choice by kidnapping a child. At the same time she was very selfish for not even think of how the biological parents would live after what she did.
Who is the best person to cover the story other than Josh, this guy deserves an Award
Kidnapping a child is not just a bad decision. It is terrible and affects so many people. It's very selfish
She could have adopted instead of destroying a young couples and their child's life,she is a criminal..and certainly not a good person ..😡😡
She couldve adopted wtf.
She could've taken a baby from an orphanage
Wow. This is my first time to watch a podcast for the full 1 and a half hours - what a sad but inspiring story.
I feel so much for her. Can relate in some way. At 16 my Mother introduced me to a man I never knew and told me that he is my bio Father, and that the man who raised me is not my Father. More than 10 years later I still feel like my life is a lie.
She has grown,now she understand how her biological parents feel after the birth of her own children, she used to be so naive, getting so angry when the kidnapper was jailed, saying that's her mother.
A fantastic interview, thank you
Zephany, you went through so much pain and loss you are an incredibly strong, intelligent and beautiful young woman
Glad you enjoyed! 🙌🏻
Listening to your story has truly moved me. I can’t imagine the strength it must take to share such painful memories. I hope you continue to find healing and peace
Not me crying through this entire interview. 😭
What an incredible story.
Great interview 🙌🏾 Yoh this case is unreal , my heart goes out to the Nurse family
To be honest, it is so unfair that you have to wait for a better time to ask your forced adopted mother to tell you the whole truth. At this point she should be prepared to tell you the whole truth because she owes you that much.
South Africa has good social workers indeed
I'm glad the social worker requested authorisation because we're not allowed to personalise matters. But in this case, it was really tricky, yoh😢
True
what an amazing, resilient, brave and articulate woman - I have so much respect and admiration for you.
This was so interesting. This is one of very few kidnapped kids who wasn't mistreated.
You handled this so well. I remember the heartbreak across the country when this happened. How this young lady has coped is phenomenal. So glad to see her smiling.
The kidnapper should never be released from prison. She didn't only ruin the lives of the biological parents but mostly zephany's mindset, psychological, and the way she looks at her biological family. Its a life sentence for them, and they didn't ask for this. So sad😢
Desire for retribution is evil. If she is not going to hurt anyone else, then she should be released. She needs mental health counseling. Two wrongs don't make a right. Enough harm has taken place. Love and forgiveness is the only thing that heals.
Wow. She's BEAUUUUTTIFUL!
Isn't she just!
Zephany and Josh.
Wow!!
Beautiful interview.
Thank you so much.
This was so powerful. So many people are searching for purpose and it can only come from Christ. Hurting those who hurt you won't bring healing. Having perfect lives with no hurt wont make us healthier. Our only help comes from God. Zephany, your story is amazing, your courage and strength is inspiring. The Lord will use you in great ways. May the Lord continue to heal you and those you love on both sides. May the Lord continue to grow your voice. Thank you ❤
Remarkable testimony ❤ great interview 😊This story blessed me. A from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
Wow! I’ve heard about Zephany’s story before so it’s amazing to actually hear her story straight from her. What a beautiful soul! This was such an incredible interview 💖
Our oldest was born 11 months after Zephany disappeared from hospital. My husband were given strict instructions to follow our son everywhere, all because of what happened to Zephany. The nurse said you can wait here Sir. He ignored her and followed him everywhere. This is still sooo sad.
This was really amazing to watch. I was also in high school when this story broke out and I remember how it just blew up in the news and it’s something that just kind of stuck with me over the years. I loved watching the documentary and getting the full picture of what actually went down, but it was very refreshing to just listen to her speak about how she experienced everything and how it affected her. You did a great job Josh! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What is the name of the documentary?
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Its so amazing how she's grown from her first interviews the insight she has now about life may she only have a blessed life going foward
Zephany you are a great speaker & a good storyteller, so glad to have finally heard your story ❤
I dont care how much she loved this child as her own, she knew what she did, she had a choice, she was a selfish monster and yes she would have seen that poor mother pleading to bring her baby back. This is painful to the biological mom, she lost her baby twice, once in the hospital and as an adult as this baby has bonded with the monster who stole her. May God strengthen this mama, the real mama ❤
Zephany Nurse, thanks for being brave enough to share your story. May you continue to find healing and strength in your journey…..
God forbid any mother lose their child but thank goodness she wasn't abused etc.
Such a painful story, remember it so well. Such a beautiful person. Thank you Josh for your sensitive podcast. Blessings to his wonderful young lady
i just saw the title, and i already liked the interview. great work bro and keep it up. As you say long overdue, that's for you and me both.
What an AMAZING, resilient and kind woman. And the laughs in between were a bonus. The host, Josh, was so good at connecting and making Zephany feel comfortable. Loved every second of this! Best wishes to Zephany.
Thank you Josh for creating a platform for these inspiring stories to be heard. A thing I noticed is that South Africa is a faith based nation. Keep doing what you are doing because I trust and I am excited for the future of this podcast. All Glory To God‼️
Edit Version- I felt this story could have gone much deeper 😊
I think now that she is a mother herself, she can probably imagine what her parents had gone through. When this whole thing unraveled, she had no sence of empathy..but im glad she now has a relationship with them❤
😢😢😢 So touching.
Can we have her sister too and her parents please. This podcast is more informative that the news.
The presenter indeed ask very good questions 👌🏾
It's so crazy how I can relate to her testimony when our stories are so different!! God is so good and she is such an inspiration :)
That is great zephany for coming out stronger. Let it bring hope to others who have lost their loved ones
This lady is so strong and I have learnt things from her just by listening to her talk ❤🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
This interview had me in tears!! ❤
Listening to this story, I felt so much pain for this family, but Zephany’s (Not sure what name she goes by) insight about the experience is a true testament of love and grace. We give Glory to God, for he kept you safe and loved all those years. We pray for healing over all your parents. Honor the parents who raised you, they raised an incredibly strong and beautiful soul! Morne & Celeste don’t be sad anymore, your daughter is remarkable. Love her and live in the moments you have with her now ❤
I'm going through a terrible time questioning God for the purpose of my life. I'm isolated. Thank you for talking about yourself. I know I'm not the only one going through this.
You're helping me. Thank you
God loves you. Be still and know that He is God. Find a quiet space and pour your heart out and He will find a way to talk to you and guide. Those who acknowledge Him and cry out to Him, He will hear you and help you. God bless you always
You are not alone. There are a lot of us out there. You actually have quite a family ❤️
@TheGirlatthewindow leave whatever situation are in and TRUST in the Lord Jesus Christ. Pray to him in desperation; but leave and go to a church-- as a start. At least then you will not be isolated. I will keep you in my prayers.
Powerful testimony
What a wonderful podcast. Great interviewer and an exceptional guest. I had never heard this story, I live in the US, and I hope I can find her book.
I'm so happy to have heard what transpired from Zephany's perspective. Based on previous articles and after listening to her tell her story it gives me context as to why she acted the way she did. You're amazing Zephany and your kindness is is heartwarming. Shout-out to the podcast for this episode 👏🏾.
Zephany needs to be a motivational speaker. @TED #TED
What a remarkable lady. Praise be unto all involved. Most of all Praise be unto God. As a great grand mother I followed your story. Your Purpose is very huge. I pray that you and family members find peace love, and joy. I will continue to ptay for you. Strength, heath and goodness to follow you all the days of your life. From a Cape flats prayer warrior. I send you God's love in Jesus Christ name ❤
I was devastated when reading in the news that you chose the Solomons family. I even stopped to follow your case because I felt sad fot your bio parents. Now that I have heard your side I sympathize with everyone involved.
I felt the same way ..
I'm sorry but this is idiotic. Why would she choose strangers?
@LizT207 WE listen, we don't Judge
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This isn't your story and if it were maybe you would do the same..that was in the beginning because that was all she knew..that was her safety net. She didn't know her biological parents...
Zephany can empathise and give talks to those out there going through what she has gone through. What a magnificent story.
I'm listening as one who was adopted, was ever told that I was.
One day a letter can through the post saying that your birth mother is looking for you.
She said that people know things about you that you never knew about yourself, I can identify with this and then also having to suppress things to protect everybody around.
It's a very difficult situation.
So sad
The woman who stole the baby I just can't imagine how low and desperate she must of had to have been to do that. I can't judge her. It was wrong but I feel so sorry for her.
And then as a mother again for someone to steal your baby I don't know what I would do.
We talk alot about Human behaviour as critics.
I think that we have to be more quiet in our judgements
Because unless you are tht person going through it you don't have a clue.
I know this may be a bit invasive... but ive always wanted to adopt a baby 1 day. What advice would you give me in managing the childs identity, conversations around that and maybe the appropriate age to start having those kinda talks?
I can tell that she's a phenomenal mother to her 3 babies !
I am delightful to see an episode from my country aired. Although I am well vested with the case but hearing Zephany,s voice is actually a bonus
I am glad u got us to hear her story, watched the news yrs ago a d i cried and i cried today, cant imagine what her parents went through and what she went through after finding out about her true identity, but m glad she was loved and cared for by her abductor and her family. She turned out to be such a strong resident lady .
Wow Zephany is a lovely woman
She is great and has such a powerful story!
Please read the book. The whole "nature vs nurture". This is an incredible story...from both sides
Because her kidnapper (Mom) & family treats her well.
This is absolutely an incredible situation. I feel deep empathy for everyone involved.
This young woman is so strong and inspiring.
I pray her and both families were able to take the lessons presented- with something so life altering that’s all we can really do.
Thank you for sharing your story-the work you have done on yourself is very evident.
Shalom
~Angie
She appears to be an amazing person! My heart BREAKS when I listen to all of this!The complexity of it all!
Zephany's emotional intelligence is on another level! Her empathy is very drawing! How, that, through all pain and suffering, her insight and judgement to realise that their are others involved is STRIKING! She's somewhat of a protagonist and an advocate, an ENFJ-INFJ mix.
Well done to Josh, for an amazing interview.
PS: Could we also acknowledge the social workers and psychologist? Such amazing individuals!
I have been following this story for as long as I can remember. I am currently 24 and I think of Zephany so often. This interview is inspiring, eye-opening, I am in awe at everything. What an incredible woman, and now mom too! Well done on the incredible episode Josh, this was so great to hear. I almost feel at ease hearing it from her side of things ❤
I am crying. The Mom's hugging. My heart breaks for the different reasons.
This interview kept me riveted. Zephany, you are such a beautiful person inside and out. You are an inspiration. Love how you eloquently and humbly tell your story from the heart. Love your energy. Josh , big thumbs up to a job well done. You are talented and very sincere . You tactfully ask all the right questions .... Amazing work both of you. Thank you to both of you for a beautiful podcast. ❤
What an amazing story of forgiveness, hope and victory. God is the healer. A very sad start to a powerful testimony. Thank you Zephany for sharing 🙏