If it is possible, we would love to see more Frostgrave. I can't afford it (lack of funds and people to play with) and you guys playing it would be the best thing.
@@TheDornsFist I haven't played either, I'm tryna convince myself to get it. Everywhere I look I see people complain how the swinginess of the rolls is a little much.
I adore Frostgrave but I’ve never had the chance to play it with anyone yet. Its not very popular in my area, but I’m hoping more videos like this will change that.
Just play a co-op scenario. It is fun to make the list and funt to play so likely any player that tries and is not smashed by you might want to do more (try an new list/change soem spells etc)?
This game is so open, it's amazing. I have started taking some of my favourite old D&D monsters eg stirges, owlbears etc and giving them Frostgrave stats. You can do that! I just wish there were more solo adventures available for the game as I don't know anyone else who plays!
People complain a lot about how swingy the game is, I think that is part of the benefit of the game. Makes things move fast, and don't turn into a huge slog.
Most people who do complain about it being a swing game is mainly because the combat is Swift and brutal so there is little to no room for mistakes. If you don't put this to yourself or have a backup plan then you end up losing. I think most people are so used to playing games within invulnerable saves to get them out of their mistakes
This almost immediately entered my top 5 rpg games of all time after my first game. Brilliant rules fantastic illustrations, play with any minis u like. Just a great game.
My necromancer has hardly made it off the board with more than one treasure the whole series of games I've played with him. He's always broke, getting by on the skin of his teeth, keeps having to sell treasures to make a warband for the next game... Now this may come off as griping about bad luck but I love this character. Every little victory is a triumph, my absolutely atrocious luck is just plain funny at this point ( I got tabled by a wraith that spawned in my backline ) and I just find it amusing to envision my beaten and limping wizard stumbling into a pawnshop outside of frostgrave to sell off some 1000 year old relic just to hire some jackasses from the bar to go do it all again.
Are you using he 2nd edition? Some of the characters are now free, so you never need to go 'venturing with a short team (Unless you;re a dwarff, halfling, gnome, goblin ....)
Glad to see you cover such an awesome game!! The designer's other games are totally cracking too. Oathmark takes a narrative theme to larger scale fantasy battles, and The Silver Bayonet is an amazing historical Napoleonic-era game but with werewolves and pixies and the supernatural. Both worth a look into!
I like Frostgrave and Stargrave quite a lot. You might also want to take a look and Five Parsecs from Home (SF) and Five Leagues from the Borderlands (F) from Modiphius if you want a solo narrative campaign experience.
You definitely sold me on Frostgrave. Besides financial constraints (because I live on disability benefits), my biggest problem would be finding someone to play with. I know of two people who play GW miniatures games - together - and that's it. Also, they're French (I live in rural Brittany), I imagine that the manuals have been translated? I'll have to have a look on Philibert, I know they sell the models. But then I'd lose the narrative, thematic side as I lose immersion when playing games in French because of the additional cognitive load 🙂 But...my 13 yr old does have a vast amount of Lego, maybe we could make that work together to give it a try?
Check out the channel Bricks and Blocks gaming - it's pretty much entirely based around using Lego for tabletop war games and he's got a whole set of videos specifically on frostgrave
I’ve been toying with playing Stargrave, but Frostgrave caught my attention perhaps because almost 60 years ago I played D&D an Traveller but they were just to fill the gap between War Games. The advantage of Frostgrave for me is that I will have little problem with painting a fighter because I have a Gandalf figure that I painted for my Son a Harry the Hammer figure then later I bought a vampire counts army for my grandson also some space goblins. BUT you have fired my imagination with this video, and I suppose you are going to do some more videos. I hope😎
The look on your face at 14:19 is absolutely priceless. Most hilarious thing I've seen in awhile. The cup, not your face. Great video. We're just diving back in to FG starting up a co-op Perilous Dark campaign.
Glad to see Frostgrave getting some love, and a little variety in the type of variety Dicebreaker has been putting out lately. This is more like the early days of the channel. Would definitely like to see more of this and definitely more Frostgrave content. Your channel is what got me into it in the first place!
super super old warhammer used to be just like this. Rogue Trader era, and later the specialist games. happy to see the legacy of warband-sized narrative wargame campaigns continue, I honestly think they're close to the ideal form of both wargames and roleplaying games
I have literally just picked up the book this week. Grabbed it mainly as an excuse to get all the terrain I built for DND at the start of the pandemic on the table (our games have pretty much moved totally online!)
I bought the entire catalogue of the 1st Edition, and I just got a few friends interested for a Campaign soon, I will have to check out the 2nd Edition and will absolutely buy it at some point soon.
Frostgrave does look like a lot of fun, and you make some very excellent points about Games Workshop and warhammer. I love the line that it is often “a miniature game first, a war game second.” However, I can’t help but notice that everything I learn and hear about Frostgrave essentially shows it to be a love letter to Games Workshops late, great masterpiece, Mordheim. Everything from the lore (a cursed, blighted city, mercenary war bands on the hunt for magic items and treasure, etc) to much of the mechanics makes it’s primary influence very explicit. Certainly the rules are updated, and in many ways no doubt improved. Games Workshop has a nasty habit of cancelling all of their most popular, well-designed, and affordable games. Mordheim went off the market back in 2004, but a dedicated fan community keeps it alive; often kitbashing Frostgrave minis in order to assemble their Mordheim war bands. Again, nothing wrong with Frostgrave picking up the mantle, especially considering the fact that GW discontinued Mordheim. But I would suggest to any Frostgrave Fan that they give Mordheim a look.
Frostgrave models fills a lot for Warhammer armies, such as the wizard boxes for anyone wanting to add more wizards to their army that looks different from one another, or use the Soldiers 1 for a Free Company unit from the northern parts of the Empire. There's even a guy who made a fanatic army using Frostgrave Cultists and Warhammer Fanatics.
There is a solo variant by the same designer titled Rangers of Shadow Deep that is fun, although the magic system is much simpler and doesn't play as large a role. In terms of Frostgrave, I actually prefer the Ghost Archipelago spinoff, which uses a magic system more akin to having superpowers. I also prefer the tropical setting with dinosaurs and serpent people. It is much more pulp fantasy than the more traditional high fantasy, Scandinavian-inspired of Frostgrave.
Hey buddy great review on Frostgrave 👍 It’s one of the more affordable games that’s in my collection and while I did grab a couple of Northstars official miniatures (the soldiers and cultists sets) I found that Reaper minis had a plethora of uniquely sculpted Wizards in different styles that worked perfectly for each school of magic, all while not breaking the bank or my wallet. Unfortunately my gaming group has whittled down from 10 or more to just a couple guys since the beginning of Covid so I don’t get to play as often as I would like to but I did pick up Rangers of Shadowdeep since it’s a solo playing game and I also made my own version of Frostgrave that takes on the classic dungeon diving theme. I’ll be sure to check out some more of your videos since it’s my day off and the temperature is absolutely disgusting today at 95*F and I’m not doing anything but hanging out with the air conditioner in my bedroom lol
Cheers, trying to introduce a guy to minis and mini gaming. I figure Frostgrave is a good start point, and was looking for a good exolination video. My top things to get/try in Frostgrave are the captains from the Folio and the Thaw of the Liche Lord campaign.
Stargrave is essentially Frostgrave teleported into space, with tech taking the place of magic. The rules are very similar. I prefer Frostgrave because (a) magic and (b) not everybody has a blaster.
This probably has already been posted, but you get 5 XP per kill for other player units, wizards, and creatures. Creatures have a seperate cap from enemy units, though.
Brilliant game. My wizard cast a ‘Push’ spell at a crossbowman on a cathedral roof and blew him directly away from me and completely off the roof. His owner wasn’t entirely happy…!
I wish more people where I lived played its soo cheap compared to GW. I still buy GW terrain as they do good terrain kits. always but from an independent shop as well.
If you want even more breadth to your fantasy narrative skirmish game, then you could try Thud & Blunder, by the Ministry of Gentlemanly Warfare. These are the guys that brought you In Her Majesty's Name, Daisho and Blood Eagle.
I'm honestly not surprised that glass fell and broke. Watching how much the table top kept rocking as you kept putting and removing your weight from it, was actually really distracting.
![Stargrave! - I Like You - [Frostgrave in Space]](/img/n.gif)
Would you like to see us play more Frostgrave on the channel?
Will it include more glasses vs floor?
Yes of course.
Yes, please!
Yes please!
If it is possible, we would love to see more Frostgrave. I can't afford it (lack of funds and people to play with) and you guys playing it would be the best thing.
"Imagine a world where DnD combat is actually fun." You got my interest.
I'd wish there were a co-op version of it.
There’s a supplement called Perilous Dark that is co-op and a sister game called Rangers of Shadowdeep.
...I completely forgot that I have Rangers of Shadowdeep...in print...
gonna take a look at Perilous Dark though.
@@FalkaRiannon isn't rangers of shadow deep basically the same ruleset?
@@rosalind1635 Only minor changes, but yeah plays almost the same. Rangers of Shadowdeep is the greatest solo/coop tabletop experience there is.
@@TheDornsFist I haven't played either, I'm tryna convince myself to get it. Everywhere I look I see people complain how the swinginess of the rolls is a little much.
I adore Frostgrave but I’ve never had the chance to play it with anyone yet. Its not very popular in my area, but I’m hoping more videos like this will change that.
I have the exact same problem, i can't find any clubs or groups to join, and no one i know plays it
Me too!
Just play a co-op scenario. It is fun to make the list and funt to play so likely any player that tries and is not smashed by you might want to do more (try an new list/change soem spells etc)?
Most coop stuff can be played solo AFAIK
This game is so open, it's amazing. I have started taking some of my favourite old D&D monsters eg stirges, owlbears etc and giving them Frostgrave stats. You can do that! I just wish there were more solo adventures available for the game as I don't know anyone else who plays!
Would love to see the stats of the monsters
Can play Rangers of Shadowdeep. It's basically Solo / Co-op frostgrave
People complain a lot about how swingy the game is, I think that is part of the benefit of the game. Makes things move fast, and don't turn into a huge slog.
I agree. I even make critical hits to just kill without counting anything. And I homebrewed critical failures. If you roll a 1, you are gone.
I agree, what's wring with "swingy".
It sort of feels more realistic in a way. Death is fast, brutal, and random, it forces you to be more careful.
Most people who do complain about it being a swing game is mainly because the combat is Swift and brutal so there is little to no room for mistakes. If you don't put this to yourself or have a backup plan then you end up losing. I think most people are so used to playing games within invulnerable saves to get them out of their mistakes
This almost immediately entered my top 5 rpg games of all time after my first game. Brilliant rules fantastic illustrations, play with any minis u like. Just a great game.
My necromancer has hardly made it off the board with more than one treasure the whole series of games I've played with him. He's always broke, getting by on the skin of his teeth, keeps having to sell treasures to make a warband for the next game... Now this may come off as griping about bad luck but I love this character. Every little victory is a triumph, my absolutely atrocious luck is just plain funny at this point ( I got tabled by a wraith that spawned in my backline ) and I just find it amusing to envision my beaten and limping wizard stumbling into a pawnshop outside of frostgrave to sell off some 1000 year old relic just to hire some jackasses from the bar to go do it all again.
Are you using he 2nd edition? Some of the characters are now free, so you never need to go 'venturing with a short team (Unless you;re a dwarff, halfling, gnome, goblin ....)
Glad to see you cover such an awesome game!! The designer's other games are totally cracking too. Oathmark takes a narrative theme to larger scale fantasy battles, and The Silver Bayonet is an amazing historical Napoleonic-era game but with werewolves and pixies and the supernatural. Both worth a look into!
This could not have been timed better for me. I'm on the look out for more non-GW games and this sounds right up my street
Great game, very miniature agnostic
I like Frostgrave and Stargrave quite a lot. You might also want to take a look and Five Parsecs from Home (SF) and Five Leagues from the Borderlands (F) from Modiphius if you want a solo narrative campaign experience.
You definitely sold me on Frostgrave.
Besides financial constraints (because I live on disability benefits), my biggest problem would be finding someone to play with. I know of two people who play GW miniatures games - together - and that's it. Also, they're French (I live in rural Brittany), I imagine that the manuals have been translated? I'll have to have a look on Philibert, I know they sell the models. But then I'd lose the narrative, thematic side as I lose immersion when playing games in French because of the additional cognitive load 🙂
But...my 13 yr old does have a vast amount of Lego, maybe we could make that work together to give it a try?
You could absolutely make some warbands out of their warhammer models if need be
Check out the channel Bricks and Blocks gaming - it's pretty much entirely based around using Lego for tabletop war games and he's got a whole set of videos specifically on frostgrave
I’ve been toying with playing Stargrave, but Frostgrave caught my attention perhaps because almost 60 years ago I played D&D an Traveller but they were just to fill the gap between War Games.
The advantage of Frostgrave for me is that I will have little problem with painting a fighter because I have a Gandalf figure that I painted for my Son a Harry the Hammer figure then later I bought a vampire counts army for my grandson also some space goblins.
BUT you have fired my imagination with this video, and I suppose you are going to do some more videos. I hope😎
The look on your face at 14:19 is absolutely priceless. Most hilarious thing I've seen in awhile. The cup, not your face. Great video. We're just diving back in to FG starting up a co-op Perilous Dark campaign.
Shout out to anybody else with an Orc / Goblin warband.
Subscribed just for how well you dealt with the disappointment of the broken glass.
I've done that like 3 times hahaha - Wheels
Glad to see Frostgrave getting some love, and a little variety in the type of variety Dicebreaker has been putting out lately. This is more like the early days of the channel. Would definitely like to see more of this and definitely more Frostgrave content. Your channel is what got me into it in the first place!
Wheels rolls a 1 on ability to knock over cup.
Moar treasure lost :-(
This is the content I like and need from dicebreaker
You should definitely do a piece on Rangers of Shadow Deep. It's the same creator but is a solo co op option
super super old warhammer used to be just like this. Rogue Trader era, and later the specialist games. happy to see the legacy of warband-sized narrative wargame campaigns continue, I honestly think they're close to the ideal form of both wargames and roleplaying games
I have literally just picked up the book this week. Grabbed it mainly as an excuse to get all the terrain I built for DND at the start of the pandemic on the table (our games have pretty much moved totally online!)
This sounds a lot like everything I loved about the original Necromunda. I'm in.
I bought the entire catalogue of the 1st Edition, and I just got a few friends interested for a Campaign soon, I will have to check out the 2nd Edition and will absolutely buy it at some point soon.
I'm really glad I watched past 10 minutes. Thanks for that.
Frostgrave does look like a lot of fun, and you make some very excellent points about Games Workshop and warhammer. I love the line that it is often “a miniature game first, a war game second.” However, I can’t help but notice that everything I learn and hear about Frostgrave essentially shows it to be a love letter to Games Workshops late, great masterpiece, Mordheim. Everything from the lore (a cursed, blighted city, mercenary war bands on the hunt for magic items and treasure, etc) to much of the mechanics makes it’s primary influence very explicit. Certainly the rules are updated, and in many ways no doubt improved. Games Workshop has a nasty habit of cancelling all of their most popular, well-designed, and affordable games. Mordheim went off the market back in 2004, but a dedicated fan community keeps it alive; often kitbashing Frostgrave minis in order to assemble their Mordheim war bands. Again, nothing wrong with Frostgrave picking up the mantle, especially considering the fact that GW discontinued Mordheim. But I would suggest to any Frostgrave Fan that they give Mordheim a look.
Frostgrave models fills a lot for Warhammer armies, such as the wizard boxes for anyone wanting to add more wizards to their army that looks different from one another, or use the Soldiers 1 for a Free Company unit from the northern parts of the Empire. There's even a guy who made a fanatic army using Frostgrave Cultists and Warhammer Fanatics.
Loving the JAM love. Working on a Stargrave bestiary myself. Also thumbs up on the AEW love!
As a card carrying member of the Frostgrave cult, I approve of this video.
Great video! You really get to the essence of Frostgrave. Awesome!
There is a solo variant by the same designer titled Rangers of Shadow Deep that is fun, although the magic system is much simpler and doesn't play as large a role. In terms of Frostgrave, I actually prefer the Ghost Archipelago spinoff, which uses a magic system more akin to having superpowers. I also prefer the tropical setting with dinosaurs and serpent people. It is much more pulp fantasy than the more traditional high fantasy, Scandinavian-inspired of Frostgrave.
Hey buddy great review on Frostgrave 👍
It’s one of the more affordable games that’s in my collection and while I did grab a couple of Northstars official miniatures (the soldiers and cultists sets) I found that Reaper minis had a plethora of uniquely sculpted Wizards in different styles that worked perfectly for each school of magic, all while not breaking the bank or my wallet. Unfortunately my gaming group has whittled down from 10 or more to just a couple guys since the beginning of Covid so I don’t get to play as often as I would like to but I did pick up Rangers of Shadowdeep since it’s a solo playing game and I also made my own version of Frostgrave that takes on the classic dungeon diving theme.
I’ll be sure to check out some more of your videos since it’s my day off and the temperature is absolutely disgusting today at 95*F and I’m not doing anything but hanging out with the air conditioner in my bedroom lol
Cheers, trying to introduce a guy to minis and mini gaming. I figure Frostgrave is a good start point, and was looking for a good exolination video.
My top things to get/try in Frostgrave are the captains from the Folio and the Thaw of the Liche Lord campaign.
I'd love to see a similar video to this about Stargrave :) Although, you have absolutely sold me on Frostgrave today too
Stargrave is essentially Frostgrave teleported into space, with tech taking the place of magic.
The rules are very similar.
I prefer Frostgrave because (a) magic and (b) not everybody has a blaster.
Okay I'm Sold, it also helps that Joe is a really really nice guy
Leaving that glass smash in... bravo 👏 😂
I would like to see one of these closer looks at Rangers of Shadow Deep or Stargrave
Perilous Dark... has co-op version. This is a refreshing way to play Frostgrave after you've played your fair share of PvP games.
You've GOT to give the people what they want.
this is well done, thanks!
10:44 you got my subscription,
Shoutout to Stargrave as well, it is basically the scifi version of Frostgrave.
Amazing shirt!
Its very easy to introduce to new players too!
This probably has already been posted, but you get 5 XP per kill for other player units, wizards, and creatures. Creatures have a seperate cap from enemy units, though.
We usually sell this game to new players as the highest ratio of fun-to-rules of any mini game.
great video! thanks
Great video! Please tell me though where you got that tee from? I love it!
It's a WRASSLIN shirt, from AEW's merch shop
Brilliant game. My wizard cast a ‘Push’ spell at a crossbowman on a cathedral roof and blew him directly away from me and completely off the roof. His owner wasn’t entirely happy…!
yesssssss thank you, this video will make bullying my friends into playing frostgrave with me that much easier
Please make a review of Stargrave too, pleeeeeeaaase ! ❤❤❤
Love 5 Leagues From the Borderlands. Does Frostgrave offer a similar experience?
Checkout the Thaw of the Lich Lord.
I wish more people where I lived played its soo cheap compared to GW. I still buy GW terrain as they do good terrain kits. always but from an independent shop as well.
If you want even more breadth to your fantasy narrative skirmish game, then you could try Thud & Blunder, by the Ministry of Gentlemanly Warfare. These are the guys that brought you In Her Majesty's Name, Daisho and Blood Eagle.
Use anything you want.
Me: Grabs a bunch of rocks and draws smiley faces to represent my minis. Glues a sharp rock to one as a wizard hat.
New channel name: Glassbreaker
Do you know of a video discussing both frostgrave nd mordheim?
Dreams of becoming a wizened old bastard man with magical powers? Hellaaaawww
I would like to see how mechanics compare to Mordheim ?and olso what's how Manny miniatures do you need to make a warband?
I've not played enough Mordheim to propely comment I'm afraid but to answer your second question, a standard warband has about 10 models - Wheels
What do you think of the wh40k rpg dark heresy 2e, or mantic games deadzone?
What kind of monsters do you need to buy?
A lot of classic monsters like ghosts and wolves etc but I normally just use whatever minis I have around! - Maddie
I was kinda meh on Frostgrave because I'm not a big fantasy person. But then Wheels mentioned Stargrave and my ears pricked up...
I'm precisely the opposite: Takes all kinds to make an interesting world.
Hope you're enjoying Stargrave by now.
Anyone know the background music used in this video?
yeah, frostgrave is fun. my friend and i started playing it together, but i beat him three times and he refused to play anymore. oh well
I'm honestly not surprised that glass fell and broke. Watching how much the table top kept rocking as you kept putting and removing your weight from it, was actually really distracting.
where can i buy this?
Direct from Osprey Games, from Amazon and a lot of good game stores will have it. I found Frostgrave very easy to get a hold of.
Can’t tell you how much the weak table bothers me. 😂
Every single criticism you said about GW funnily enough has no bearing on Mordheim.
its so hard to get people to play ANYHTING NOT GW
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Necromancy babyyyy
It's a fantastic game...
And a cheap 40K snipe.
Wizards are lame, very lame.