Just wanted to point out, your starting is to expensive. 2nd edition changed starting gold to 400 gc instead of 500 gc, to account for the fact that the apprentice is 100 now instead of 200.
Your Frostgrave content is what got me to follow you years ago. Your enthusiasm and great batreps is what has gotten me back into wargaming after a hiatus of 10+ years. Glad you are still goin strong making vids! Hope you've upgraded that ol' Macbook ;)
Great battle rep, but you misplayed casting Leap on your Thief with treasure. Figures carrying treasure now only leap for half the distance, so 5" instead of 10"
I see Frostgrave 2nd edition, I click like. I watch the Let's Play and wish I could click like again! Great stuff - looking forward to getting my hands on this on Thursday!
In my 2nd edition rulebook it states on page 83 "A wizard may only improve one stat after each game, even if they gained multiple levels - so,a wizard who gained 2 levels could increase Fight by +1 or their health by 1, but not both". It has the same rule for improving you spell roll, only 1 improvement after a game no matter how many levels you gained. It does not limit how many times you level between games either. You are limited to 300xp per game but can bank any that you do now want to or cannot spend on a level up. It says that when you do spend the 100xp to level you can Improve a stat, improve a known spell or learn a new spell. The improve options are limited to once per game. The learn a new spell however does not have that limitation. You are allowed to learn as many new spells that you have the grimoires and you have available levels. So unless you have grimoires for a spells you do not know, there is no point leveling more than twice and banking the rest. I can see why they have done this, in 1st edition a good or lucky player could boost stats or spell far to quickly and make is difficult for their opponents to catch up. It could still happen but it wont happen as quickly as it used to.
Always wanted to play tabletop miniature games. Thankfully my wife is open minded and i have ordered 40k recruit and looking at making a few warbands and scenery. Hope i can wrap my head around it 😁
Poor Owen, that apprentice really wasn't pulling their weight. In our home game we're using the variant from Maze of Malcor for black market contacts, with only 2 rolls, but everything goes into the market, so all players (4 usually) can buy from it, with the roller getting first dibs. A little more book keeping, but it's an interesting variant. I'm happy with the updated rules, this seems like a good clean up rather than a total revamp. Excited about getting a copy! Thanks for the LP, you made my Monday. I hope your family is safe & well.
For the black market, we generate the treasure firstm and then we roll for the priority on buying. The higher one, gets first, then pass to the second and so. Generally, we don't have gold to buy nothing interesting :D. After the next game and before rolling new treasure for the black market, we make some rolls to dissapear older items, asumming others wizards or people adventuring on Felstad taking it
@@richmcgee434 In all fairness, they did play Leap wrong. It was toned down to only move for half distance on guys with treasure, and can no longer be used on enemies. It should have moved the Thief with treasure 5" only.
I’ve been waiting a long time for this Ash. As usual you’ve made an awesome video, and Frostgrave 2.0 is outstanding. Looking forward to your next video. Don’t keep up waiting! Both your warbands look great!
Really enjoyed this batrep. Wife is showing an interest, ordered some darksword miniatures for our wizards and a box of Frostgrave soldiers. Just gotta print up some terrain!
"I killed my wizard by failing to cast a single spell" "I will take my man-at-arms and kill this thug who is outnumbered by x3, na I will just kill myself instead" Why I do not play Frostgrave anymore.
I'm surprised the Monsters dont activate after the Wiz/Ap, but before the soldiers, like they do in Rangers of Shadowdeep. I though that would be brought over to FG.
Solo play rule set such as the FG supplement Perilous Dark does alter the phase order a bit. It splits creatures into two phases according to their stats. The stronger creature phase comes before the soldier phase.
I'm digging Frostgrave as my main game to enter the hobby, what is the difference between Frostgrave and Stargrave? Is it worth it to pick both books to play? the rules are very different from each others?
Well you completely ignored many of the changed rules in 2e, like starting with less gold and not being able to leap as far while carrying treasure. But it was fun to watch.
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Sweet thank you! I go the book in my cart on amazon I just realize i have the PDF copy of the 1st ed frostgrave and never played it well now that is going to change lol.
Excellent battle report as usual great stuff. Is there any way I can find out what special terrain pieces and new monsters I need to make or buy for second edition? I've got it on pre-order but it would be nice to start on making the terrain or ordering new models :)
The 2nd edition has all the same scenarios as the first plus more. There is a guide for what you need for 1st edition so when you find that it will give you a good starting point.
New changes look good. I've had to send alot of archers to the job center. Other than that im good to go. Are Captain rules now roled into the main rules ? In the old rules I did not take elemental bolt or bone dart because archers were just as deadly. Think I might have to take some missile attack now.
Hey. I only play infinity however I’m looking to get into a second game. Used to play WHB 6th ed and 40k however don’t want to go back to GW. Would this be a good second game to get into. I’ve been thinking malifaux might have scratched my fantasy itch however it just doesn’t grab me.
Comment from '22: why for no Captain. They are available and also a useful source of activations. Don't get me wrong, love the show, it got me into the game. Just feel like Captains are worth the coin.
Great video! I’m getting into frost grave and putting a table together - where did you get that mat? I haven’t been able to find anything quite like it but it’s perfect
Doesn't look like it's changed much from 1st edition. No XP for killing player models and the max 300 XP per game will limit fast advancement quite a lot but other than that what's different? EDIT: Ah, cover's better, isn't it?
A few other things changed. The basic troops(thug/thief) are now free, all the other troops went up in cost. Plus a bunch of spell changes, some with small changes and some replaced with different spells.
As far as i can see in 1st rulebook there was no limit to what you could spend. The example was for 3 health but I cannot see anything that says you can do more.
Can anyone recommend good dealers of North Star Miniatures in Canada? I have ordered from Meeplemart twice, but their restock times are frustrating. Crucible Crush had early stuff, but no restocks. Plastics and metal, I needs me Frostgrave!
Had the same issue several times. I'd normally check out Meeplemart and Thunder Games & Gifts. Other times, I ordered from Firestorm Games in the UK, which does free international shipping at 50 GBP (took 3-4 weeks for things to arrive). The latter isn't a fantastic option at the moment though due to how weak our dollar is.
I know you are looking for Canada, but have you looked at Brigade Games in the states? They have different shipping rates for Canada compared to the rest of the world. Just a thought. brigadegames.3dcartstores.com
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Just wanted to point out, your starting is to expensive. 2nd edition changed starting gold to 400 gc instead of 500 gc, to account for the fact that the apprentice is 100 now instead of 200.
@Andy Quincy Instablaster =)
Cool.
But it's an existing warband, so, is it really starting?
Your Frostgrave content is what got me to follow you years ago. Your enthusiasm and great batreps is what has gotten me back into wargaming after a hiatus of 10+ years. Glad you are still goin strong making vids! Hope you've upgraded that ol' Macbook ;)
Ash, my man you have no idea how I excited I am for this batrap, I aint even watched it and I love it already.
Great battle rep, but you misplayed casting Leap on your Thief with treasure. Figures carrying treasure now only leap for half the distance, so 5" instead of 10"
I see Frostgrave 2nd edition, I click like. I watch the Let's Play and wish I could click like again! Great stuff - looking forward to getting my hands on this on Thursday!
In my 2nd edition rulebook it states on page 83 "A wizard may only improve one stat after each game, even if they gained multiple levels - so,a wizard who gained 2 levels could increase Fight by +1 or their health by 1, but not both". It has the same rule for improving you spell roll, only 1 improvement after a game no matter how many levels you gained.
It does not limit how many times you level between games either. You are limited to 300xp per game but can bank any that you do now want to or cannot spend on a level up. It says that when you do spend the 100xp to level you can Improve a stat, improve a known spell or learn a new spell. The improve options are limited to once per game. The learn a new spell however does not have that limitation. You are allowed to learn as many new spells that you have the grimoires and you have available levels.
So unless you have grimoires for a spells you do not know, there is no point leveling more than twice and banking the rest.
I can see why they have done this, in 1st edition a good or lucky player could boost stats or spell far to quickly and make is difficult for their opponents to catch up. It could still happen but it wont happen as quickly as it used to.
Always wanted to play tabletop miniature games. Thankfully my wife is open minded and i have ordered 40k recruit and looking at making a few warbands and scenery. Hope i can wrap my head around it 😁
I first found this channel back in 2015 through frostgrave videos. I can't wait to check out second edition!
The perfect thing to watch as I put together terrain!
So awesome. Great to see the original table layout make an appearance.
Poor Owen, that apprentice really wasn't pulling their weight. In our home game we're using the variant from Maze of Malcor for black market contacts, with only 2 rolls, but everything goes into the market, so all players (4 usually) can buy from it, with the roller getting first dibs. A little more book keeping, but it's an interesting variant. I'm happy with the updated rules, this seems like a good clean up rather than a total revamp. Excited about getting a copy! Thanks for the LP, you made my Monday. I hope your family is safe & well.
For the black market, we generate the treasure firstm and then we roll for the priority on buying. The higher one, gets first, then pass to the second and so. Generally, we don't have gold to buy nothing interesting :D. After the next game and before rolling new treasure for the black market, we make some rolls to dissapear older items, asumming others wizards or people adventuring on Felstad taking it
Movement spells are so good. Easy to cast, nice for experience, with a lot of utility.
I'm surprised they weren't toned down a bit. Terrain creation spells are also pretty strong - if you don't roll like Owen for all your casts, anyway.
@@richmcgee434 In all fairness, they did play Leap wrong. It was toned down to only move for half distance on guys with treasure, and can no longer be used on enemies. It should have moved the Thief with treasure 5" only.
@@zanzabarr That's good news - I'd been playing it that way and I thought they're reverted back to the original text for some arcane reason.
I’ve been waiting a long time for this Ash. As usual you’ve made an awesome video, and Frostgrave 2.0 is outstanding. Looking forward to your next video. Don’t keep up waiting! Both your warbands look great!
Two weeks!:)
This has become my favorite minis game in the past year
Thanks for posting this batrep. Now I'm even more hyped for when my copy of 2nd edition arrives!
This was really nice! :) Great "Let's play!" as explaining everything makes this video so easy to follow! Thanks Ash!
Very excited for this one. I don’t know how you manage to keep up with all the games you do as well as you do but more power to you.
Can't wait for the next game! This series rocks
Guys, you just sold me on this game. It looks super fun.
Found this game while looking up stuff on Mordheim & really enjoying the look of Frostgrave. Thanks!
Oh yeah some 2nd edition goodness! Great video as always Ash I can't wait to see your future campaigns and warbands! Greetings from Italy
Oh boy! Can't wait for my copy to arrive and get started.
Same!
And fantastic vid too. I've been waiting for 2.0 for a long time and can't wait to play it.
Nice. I started with rangers of shadow deep so I’m super happy to see how familiar this feels.
Really enjoyed this batrep. Wife is showing an interest, ordered some darksword miniatures for our wizards and a box of Frostgrave soldiers. Just gotta print up some terrain!
the one thing ive been so eagerly waiting for ash , thank you so much !!
So glad to see this. Love your Frostgrave content.
Ash, thanks for the bat rep. Also you are looking really healthy and that makes me happy.
Cheers!
"I killed my wizard by failing to cast a single spell" "I will take my man-at-arms and kill this thug who is outnumbered by x3, na I will just kill myself instead" Why I do not play Frostgrave anymore.
LOVE shooting into melee with thugs! hahahha Always a good time! hahaha "Sorry Mr. Knight!!! My BAD Buddy!" hahaha
Dang. Owen had some rough casting rolls there.
If he hadn't Ash's whole side of the table would have been a sea of mud. Terrain creation spells look as strong as ever, as are movement tricks.
Great vid!
Looks like I am going to be playing Frostgrave now!
I'm really digging this game! Thanks for sharing!
It seems pretty fun. But right now I am starting two new Mordheim warbands for a new campaign.. But this I might have to check out..
Can't wait to get this in the mail!
Nice and snappy, great presentation of the game!
I'm surprised the Monsters dont activate after the Wiz/Ap, but before the soldiers, like they do in Rangers of Shadowdeep. I though that would be brought over to FG.
Solo play rule set such as the FG supplement Perilous Dark does alter the phase order a bit. It splits creatures into two phases according to their stats. The stronger creature phase comes before the soldier phase.
I'm digging Frostgrave as my main game to enter the hobby, what is the difference between Frostgrave and Stargrave? Is it worth it to pick both books to play? the rules are very different from each others?
Man I want to get into Frostgrave but man it’s so daunting all the stuff you need to play
Nah. Some d20 and any minis you have. You can use random stuff like pop cans for terrain if you need to. Give it a go!
So freakin' excited for this!
Hey! Just wondering where you got some of your frostgrave scenery, in particular the bridge stuff? Thanks for all the good work!
Well you completely ignored many of the changed rules in 2e, like starting with less gold and not being able to leap as far while carrying treasure. But it was fun to watch.
God damn frostgrave is amazing! Great batrep!!
I have a 3d printer can I print my minis like I do for D&D and use them in this game?
For sure
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Sweet thank you! I go the book in my cart on amazon I just realize i have the PDF copy of the 1st ed frostgrave and never played it well now that is going to change lol.
My wife and I both have warbands, and almost our entire creature collection is from TitanForge's patreon of 3d printable stls. Thier stuff is gorgeous
@@ArchangelMiniatureGaming sweet I will check it out thank you.
Where would I get a similar measurement gauge that you have there? Just starting into Frostgrave and I would love use a little template like this.
You can get widgets like that from Death Ray Designs. Links are in the video description.
Excellent battle report as usual great stuff. Is there any way I can find out what special terrain pieces and new monsters I need to make or buy for second edition? I've got it on pre-order but it would be nice to start on making the terrain or ordering new models :)
The 2nd edition has all the same scenarios as the first plus more. There is a guide for what you need for 1st edition so when you find that it will give you a good starting point.
@@darkaiel Thanks bud, I've already got the first one. I'll look online and see what I can find :)
Only two new creatures added to the bestiary for 2E. If you've been building your miniatures bestiary for 1E, you do not have much to add.
@@OKTabletop cheers man, hopefully 2nd will arrive tomorrow, it said the 20th so fingers crossed
Can't wait to see how owen breaks this game.
Wasn't the gold crown of Warband at the beginning of 400gc?
That made my day, thank you.
New changes look good. I've had to send alot of archers to the job center. Other than that im good to go. Are Captain rules now roled into the main rules ?
In the old rules I did not take elemental bolt or bone dart because archers were just as deadly. Think I might have to take some missile attack now.
Love this video, and love everything you guys do!
Question: Where can I get one of those neoprene area of effect discs?
Thank you!
Living 4 Crits gamemat.eu!
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Thank you!
Hey. I only play infinity however I’m looking to get into a second game. Used to play WHB 6th ed and 40k however don’t want to go back to GW.
Would this be a good second game to get into. I’ve been thinking malifaux might have scratched my fantasy itch however it just doesn’t grab me.
Comment from '22: why for no Captain. They are available and also a useful source of activations. Don't get me wrong, love the show, it got me into the game. Just feel like Captains are worth the coin.
Yesssss so hyped for 2e!
Great video! I’m getting into frost grave and putting a table together - where did you get that mat? I haven’t been able to find anything quite like it but it’s perfect
It’s either GameMat.eu or Urbanmatz
It was gamemat! Thank you so much
Great Video, Sooo What is your opinion if you could only have one fantasy skirmish game which would it be? this, Relicblade etc.....?
What is this terrain and where did you get it? It looks real nice!
A lot of it is repainted Gale Force Nine battlefield in a box sets
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Thanks! Repainted how, or with what exactly?
Where did you get that dope gaming mat?
UrbanMatz!
Where did you get the giant wizard statue?
Ash, have you eaten anything since lockdown started?
Lol I eat constantly. The difference is I go outside too.
16:19 You can activate 0-3 soldiers not 0-2 as you said (Rulebook page 40). Great videeo by the way :)
Doesn't look like it's changed much from 1st edition. No XP for killing player models and the max 300 XP per game will limit fast advancement quite a lot but other than that what's different? EDIT: Ah, cover's better, isn't it?
A few other things changed. The basic troops(thug/thief) are now free, all the other troops went up in cost. Plus a bunch of spell changes, some with small changes and some replaced with different spells.
Looking solid. Is that terrain homemade or bought? Particularly liking the bridges, statue, and the trees.
Home made and pet store finds mostly!
Hey Ash, where do you get some of that 3d printed terrain from? I love what you've been using in your bat reports.
So in 2nd edition you can take all the damage you want to cast the spells? In 1e you could only take up to 3 damages 🤔 (19:07)
As far as i can see in 1st rulebook there was no limit to what you could spend. The example was for 3 health but I cannot see anything that says you can do more.
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How did I miss this video?
Omg Ash...where is that wizard stature from?
Some head shop I think. Check amazon!
Is FrostGrave2 and StarGrave Mergeable?
Slow down! Interesting to watch, but difficult to hear everything your saying. 👍
Opposite for me, I had to turn it to 1.75x speed just to get through it. Professional yapper!
One of those knights looks like peanut
Poor Owen failing every bolt hehe
Leap is only 5" now if you are carrying treasure :(
What kind of models was owen using for his warband?
Can anyone recommend good dealers of North Star Miniatures in Canada? I have ordered from Meeplemart twice, but their restock times are frustrating. Crucible Crush had early stuff, but no restocks. Plastics and metal, I needs me Frostgrave!
Had the same issue several times. I'd normally check out Meeplemart and Thunder Games & Gifts. Other times, I ordered from Firestorm Games in the UK, which does free international shipping at 50 GBP (took 3-4 weeks for things to arrive). The latter isn't a fantastic option at the moment though due to how weak our dollar is.
I normally just order straight from Northstar. Though I'm interested in if there is something better locally.
As much as I'd love to order from them directly, that shipping fee can be pretty killer.
I know you are looking for Canada, but have you looked at Brigade Games in the states? They have different shipping rates for Canada compared to the rest of the world. Just a thought. brigadegames.3dcartstores.com
@@miraclebubbles666 As a Canadian I've found that Uk is often faster than US for deliveries.
chumbawumba style... great line
Awsome!
That battle mat is perfect!
Who makes it?
I think I recognize it from gamemat.edu. I am not sure though.
@@derekfrostbeard6419 I checked and you are correct!!
Thank you so much. This is the perfect Frostgrave mat I have been looking for!
That’s the one!
“What is my purpose?”
Consistently jealous of what your tables look like. And having friends to play with. *cries in poor and solo*
JA TACK!
Good stuff, hope you can lure Owen to play more off this!