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Rhaenyra planning strategy with Lord Corlys the SeaSnake & Princess Rhaenys. She dispatched her two sons, Jacaerys (Jace) to the North (Eyrie and Winterfell) and Lucerys (Luke) to the South (Storm's End).
Rhaenys riding Meleys The Red Queen spoiled Aegon's Coronation and flew Dragonstone to warn Queen Rhaenyra of the situation.
While mourning a tragic loss, Rhaenyra tries to hold the realm together, and Daemon prepares for war.
Meleys The Red Queen spared the lives of King Aegon II & his whole family in House of the Dragon
Princess Rhaenys while imprisoned by Queen Alicent Hightower, escaped and approached with her dragon Meleys. She could have roasted the entire family of Otto Hightower, Aemond Targaryen, Helena Targaryen, but she spared their lives by a gesture of mercy and a warning.
Meleys, nicknamed the Red Queen, is a she-dragon ridden by Princess Rhaenys Targaryen. Covered in scarlet scales, she has accents of bright copper. It is her unique coloring for which she received her nickname. In her youth, she is said to have outpaced even Caraxes and Vhagar.
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House of the Dragon
Episode 10
The Black Queen
Director:
Greg Yaitanes
Writers:
Ryan J. CondalGeorge R.R. Martin
Stars:
Paddy Considine, Olivia Cooke, Emma D'Arcy
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I love how Corlys shifted his gaze to Rhaenys after Rhaenyra said “you honored me”, as if saying it’s not really me who you should be grateful to
glad someelse noticef
nah, it's more about, "you're right", after getting the support of the most powerful house, she's still not eager to wage war, as Rhaenys told Corlys earlier, but try to resolve the matter without spilling blood, if you get the houses Velaryon, Baratheon, Stark and the Vale on your side, no other houses would be foolish enough to join the other side.
Talk about noticing. I've seen this scene many times and just now caught how Corlys calls Rhaneyra princess (not queen/your grace) when he first arrives and then calls her "your grace" after he declares for her. I guess he didn't want to give any spoiler alerts of his true intentions too early, lol!
@@webdev2670She doesn't have baratheons and Lannisters
@@Lisad-gb7dg Everyone did, it was hard to notice. The interpretation of the moment/glance might differ though
I love how corlys was proud of jace and luke
bastards
No he wasn't
@@techi9 yes he was. Corlys actually had a good relationship with his Grandchildren and he always defended them. He loved Luke very much and I can’t wait to see how everyone gonna react next season!
@@jaredgalarza he accepted their targaryen blood line and name only
@@techi9 Like he said he doesn't care about blood, what makes a house strong and remembered is a strong leader. Corlys made house Valaryon what it is today ALONE,Veamond his brother was stupid. He kept on blaming Corlys for bring their house into constant battle and ruin because of his war but forget that Corlys made his house a super power.
i love rheanys smile when says she will patrol it herself
It's also a very stupid plan so no wonder she treats it as a victory.
By herself means the Greens can use all their dragons against the blacks one.
They should at least work together in pairs.
:(
I honestly can't wait till she dies at the hands of Aemond and Vhagar
@@bobbybaratheon4647 i hope they change it and she kills that stupid character with one eye (forgot his name)
And her joy will turn to ashes in her mouth, whenever Vaghar flies over the horizon……
It’s definitely Rhaenyras biggest mistake by separating her adult dragons, Caraxes, Melys, Syrax, and Vermithor rather than using all of them to take down the Greens’ most dangerous weapon, Vaghar
4:23 Right when Rhaenyra says Luke’s name, he stand with confidence to do his duty.
They sure make you like these characters.
why she calls him Viserys?
@@mktary434 I believe you miss heard, she said “ prince lucerys”
They didn't do a good enough job to truly make you like them. The Black's are basically cardboard cutouts compared to Alicent's kids.
I hope they do a better job at this in season two.
@@janellejulianajoy
@@janellejulianajoy it’s not that you’re emotionally invested in her kids directly. It’s that they’re Rhaenyra’s children, her babies, and her absolute devastation in losing them is what rips your heart to shreds.
Well, me, anyway.
Corly knew that Jace, Joff and Luke would make House Velaryon Strong.
Handsome, wise and… strong
Then that makes Vaemond the heir by right
Was that pun intended?
lol but true
Corly is a weak and subservient man who lost his son, his daughter and his brother to these two clowns.
He tamely submits as they foist a white boy bastard as heir to what should rightfully belong to his granddaughters.
Corlys Velaryon is the epitome of a true House n####r.
Fun fact : this guy will outlive almost every major player in that room
Except rhaena and baela. All of daemon's 4 childs are pretty important in targeryen/ velaryon history.
@@Noone91875 one of them will marry a Hightower, I would love to watch Daemon react to it.
@@masterplokoon8803 yep! Rhaena marry Hightower.
@@masterplokoon8803 And become Barren and commits Suicide in just 2 years, Thus ending that Degenerate Green line once and for all lol😂😂.. So I think Daemon's soul will be pretty happy watching it from wherever he was lmao...
@@dineshbalu6107I was talking about how Daemon's daughter later in her life married and had six daughters with a Hightower. And House Hightower is still one of the most powerfull by the time of game of thrones.
And sadly I am not suprised to see you celebrating the death of little Jaehaera who was inocent.
Rhaenys having convinced Corlys and then saying that she would go to patrol the maw was an act of immense courage, not least because she and meleys would be facing all the existing danger, all the enemy dragons, being so close to kings landing. A formidable warrior.
And I think she dies first on that patrol. 😢😢
Sie und melys werden am krähenturm im Kampf gegen vagar und Sonnenfeuer sterben und das wird episch. Denn sie tritt alleine gegen amond und vagar und Sonnenfeuer und agon 2 an. Naja so häftig und sie geht wie ein wahrer Krieger.
Yeah, so brave and formidable that she killed all those civilians when she stormed in the castle/septor during Aegon's coronation and didn't even bat an eye (yet refused to strike down her enemy)...
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849common folk means nothing but kin slaying is the ultimate sin in that universe so there’s that.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849There's also the fact that those smallfolk were cheering in support of a usurper.
The face Emma makes at 2:23 is just so full of hope.
Makes me feel terrible to know all the tragedies Rhaenerya is about to suffer.
True, though many of them she could’ve avoided, or stopped entirely.
@@matthewriley7826 she should have done what olLena told Danny to do
@@matthewriley7826 she couldnt. The greens are cunts
@@matthewriley7826 all could of been avoided had Alicent & Otto (and Aemond) not started it. She fell into a pit of paranoia and grief, something very hard to get out of- literally lost children one by one because of someone else’s decision to steal what was rightfully and legally declared hers. And she died, believing her last living child (as believed; seeing Viserys II wasn’t known to be alive still) was going to be joining her in death too. Her life was just a tragedy from the start to finish, I truly wonder how it’d of been had Aemma lived.
@@matthewriley7826 in the books its clear to see that her being a "terrible queen" was mostly due to
1) killing haelena
2) being too strict.
The first reason - fully avoidable. The second, not. Alicent demanded kings treasury to be emptied. A kingdom without gold cant stand. The kingdom would fall thus rhaenyra raised taxes. She had no choice
3:03 I keep coming back to this moment if only because that declaration of "The Narrow Sea is ours" and Ramin blasting the Velaryon theme always gives me chills
I get chills and goosebumps too.
Rhaenys realized that if she had support she could had keep the trone that was rightfully hers so she decided to give Rhaenyra the chance she never had is kinda beautiful
That and also her grand daughters already bent the knee to rhaenyra if it came to war she would have to eventually side with the side her granddaughter’s are with she wouldn’t let them go to war alone and not support them
She literally said that she sided with Rhaenyra for the sake of her grand daughters who were tied to her cause through their father Daemon. Not to "give Rhaenyra the chance she never had" in any beautifull way. If her grandchildren weren't tied to Rhaenyra she would be neutral.
No, you should definitely thank Baela for this. Without Baela's insistence to fight, Rhaenys would have left with Corlys and her granddaughters.
"THERE HAS NEVER LIVED A STARK THAT HAS FORGOT AN OATH!"
Until Sansa
@@Pksoze *Robb
Jace said send us just like how rhaenyra said when she was young
when did Rhaenyra say that?! nobody was at war when she was young?
@@jimmymcgill2557 the crab feeder at the stepstones in episode 3
@@jimmymcgill2557 The Seven Kingdoms were at war against the Triarchy for the Stepstones
@@jimmymcgill2557 episode 1 or 2, Rhaenyra was a cup bearer at King Viserys' council then.
They were discussing how to deal with the crab feeder, and Rhaenyrs said to King Viserys "You have dragon riders, send us. It will be a show of force"
@@daphoenix6465 Wrong, only Daemond, his gold cloaks and Driftmark went to war. The seven kingdom had nothing to do with it, hence why it took them over 3 years to defeat the Triarchy. While the Triarchy was getting payment from Essos and supplies for fresh troops, Daemond and Corlys didn't have that luxury.
Lord Corlys of House Velaryon, Lord of the Tides, Master of Driftmark, best character in HOTD
He's charismatic and powerful but his brother is the better man, that would have sustained his house.
@@CB-py1xh his brother was a piece of sh*t who didn't appreciate the effort put by Corlys to make House Valeryon as great as it was. I'm glad Daemon slaughtered him like a chicken he was.
@@CB-py1xhThe master of complaints? 😭
@@FlexSZN23 yes thats why daemon give him his tongue
@@CB-py1xhHis brother was an ass, who didn’t know how to control his temper. Would have been fighting alongside a surviving Corlys if he kept his mouth shut!
When he says the triarchy has been routed, the Narrow sea is ours - THEN THE VELARYON THEME- gives me chills!
Team Rhaenyra!!!!
Oddly I think of ninety ships sailing from the south to Driftmark to burn his castle and bring House Velaryon down to minor house status. Team Green !
It's not a football match to have your favourite team though...
Rhaenys sees a lot of her in Rhaenyra as she didn't get to be Queen. I bet she'd always want to back a woman as claimant to the throne no matter what.
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You must have missed the whole scene when Rhaenys tells Corlys to suport Rhaenyra for the sake of her grandaughters, Rhaenys prioritizes her family first. If her grandaughters weren't tied to Rhaenyra's cause she would prefer neutrality.
Renys weiß was es heißt wenn man übergangen wird von den Männern. 😊 Und sie wäre die rechtmäßige königin gewesen, da ihr Vater ein Kronprinz war. Ihr Anspruch war höher als der von viserys ihres Cousins
@@masterplokoon8803 This. It's clear how Rhaenys felt and it was Baela who changed her mind. She wanted no parts in any of this. Her focus was on her legitimate grandchildren.
I love the subtle details of this scene. Everything down to specifically regarding Luke, Jace, Baela, and Rhaena. The way Luke slightly smiles when he sees Rhaena enter the room. It's sad really, first her dragon passed down by her mother and now her own betrothed is gone because of Aemond, from her point of view understandably. The way everyone straightens themselves when the Velaryon's collectively enter a room. The way Baela smiles when Jace suggests sending them on dragon-back to be more convincing/intimidating. Luke appeared timid immediately when his mother said he would ride to see Boros Baratheon, but Jace knew his brother was fully capable of managing on his own, once again sad, but very endearing knowing Jace and Luke's brotherhood together in their short time. I wonder if in Season 2 we'll get to hear more details about what happened at the Stepstones with Corlys Velaryon. Jace's reaction to hearing his brother had passed as well as Baela and Rhaena's reactions.
Atleast she gets to have the last living dragon
If they get a reaction. This show has done a terrible job with Daemon's daughters.
Don’t forget hopefully a return to Winterfell!
0:09 this shot is so badass and I don't even know why
I may be missing something here, but couldn't Rhaenyra have sent Rhaenys to Storm's End instead of Luke? Since she's Borros Baratheon's cousin, wouldn't that make it more likely for him to side with the blacks? Plus, she's a more experienced dragonrider and would have been able to deal with Storm's End weather better than Luke and has more experience with diplomacy
According the GRRM, it had to be one of Rhaenyra sons because it was her claim to the iron throne that was challenged. Plus, Boremund father was a good and honorable man, he treated Rhaenya always treated Rhaenyra with dignity and respect. Rhaenyra probably thought Lucerys would’ve been treated the same way at storms end as she was during her younger years.
well, considering that the baratheon line is a targaryen line without the targaryen name, rhaenyra thought that their kinship would have been honored. rhaenys having lucerys as her grandson meant that such an honor extended to lucerys because lucerys has her blood one way or another. as borros and rhaenys are third cousins and their kids are fourth cousins. so lucerys is very close kin and they thought this would be easier. rhaenys has one of the fastest dragons and capable of much easier fast strikes. as well as the fact that shes's much more senior in terms of diplomacy, politiking and etc compared to her grandsons. so she was delegated tougher tasks including helping with the gullet. in the books though rhaenys was at home advising rhaenyra in political matters and were her main council around this time, so rhaenyra really could not spare them. dragonstone needed as many riders as they could as well.
They also didn’t have enough dragons to just send one of their biggest ones away at the time, Meleys was defending the fleet, caraxes was at harrenhall, so they had to send the smaller dragons because Meleys was just too important
@@theiaoftheheavensrhaenys and borros are not third cousins they are first . IN THE BOOKS RHAENYS MOTHER JOCELIN BARAETHON WAS SISTER OF BORROS FATHER
@@renis8760 Which is funny, because in the books Borros says that, and I quote: 'some great-aunt I never knew married [Rhaenys'] father', which is pure bs. Borros' father was Boremund Baratheon; Jocelyn Baratheon was Rhaenys' mother. Jocelyn was Boremund's little sister, meaning that Jocelyn was Borros' aunt, not his great-aunt. Either Borros Baratheon was a gigantic idiot (the man couldn't read, after all), or the guy was simply lying to distance himself from Rhaenys and the Velaryons.
It was not emphasize but if you look closely to Rhaena's nervous breathing before and as Rhaenyra agreed to have Jace and Luke deliver the message themselves, she let out a sigh of, somewhat, defeat. That was the last time she saw Luke.
I love how Jace mirrors Rhaenyra’s own words from the past. “Send us”.
It is good that coryls is back in the picture
Awwwwwwww they all look so hopeful, I'm sure each and every one of them are going to live happily ever after...
HAAAA!!!
I mean virtually everyone dies. It's not like it's just the Blacks. Every green is killed. Almost every black is killed. Rhaenyra may lose, but so does her half brother. And it's Rhaenyra's son who ends up taking the throne in the end. So really, if there even is a winner - its Rhaenyra.
@@Monkonmunky Rhaenyra's no winner. History hates her. She's NOT her son. Her son is his own person, not an extenstion to pretend Rhaenyra won. And that just because some craven poisoned Aegon anyway. Rhaenyra's son lived because Aegon allowed it, and was fine keeping him in the line of succession.
@@gooby214 It's like you didn't read a word of what I said. I'll make it shorter and more clear this time. *Clears throat* Neither Rhaenyra or Aegon really won. But Aegon really lost. : )
@@gooby214 Rhaenyra's the winner because her bloodline endured.
2:01 - 2:15 Rhaenyra’s face, she looked like a little girl again. Hopeful and trusting.
Would be a shame if she just ended up being dragon poop 👌
@@gooby214and Aegon clings to his throat betrayed by his own who was scared of the north.
@@DarthKay093 I know that, but I'm not talking about him. What matters is Rhaenyra's fate.
2:15 baby girl is so excited 😢😢❤❤
I can’t wait to see how Borros Baratheon answers to Queen Rhaenyra is season 2. I’d love to see a face to face conversation between the two.
They never see each other. In fact, Borros doesn't show up for a while. In fact, he focuses on the Dornish more than anything as a Vulture king was starting up trouble.
“The Triarchy have been routed, and the Narrow Sea is ours.” Hooo boy, those words are gonna come back to bite them hard.
It is proper to send the princes, more convincing of good yet firm intent. It's just sooo disheartening what happened to Lucerys 😣 all over aemond being childish and reckless
Perhaps it would have been better to send him to the Eyrie and Winterfell and Jacaerys to Storm's End. Although, in hindsight, Jace would have been more likely to rise to the "Lord Strong" taunts and been killed by Aemond. I suppose it was doomed to war either way.
@@samalvey8168im sure if they knew aemond was going to beat them there they wouldnt have sent either of them
Aemond is a fucking lunatic. This isn't anything compared to what happens later.
The way rhaenys is smiling but rhaenyra looking at her like 😐
Never really notice it when watching the shows and not sure if it's intentional or not but when Jace said that they should bear those messages and Luke tenses up, focus on Rhaena's face. She looks so worried for him and she was like holding her breath before Rhaenyra accepts their suggestion for her sons to go. And Rhaena just looks so broken and defeated. I can't- And imagine when they learn of Luke's death. God my heart.
I love how powerful and in charge Corlys is. They were kids playing in the sandbox until he came to speak strategy.
4:12 Look at Rhaena panicking, she already knew it was going to backfire.
" The Narrow Sea is Ours."
After Storm's End Daemon gathers an army from the Riverlands at Harrenhal, Baela and Rhaenys patrol the Gullet together, Jace flies south after allying with Cregan, the Winter Wolves join him, and the cord tightens around the Greens.
A few months later, the common people revolt against the Greens over the price of produce and lack of food, the Blacks resort to a siege of the Red Keep.
Alicent is forced to surrender the capital, Criston and Otto are executed for treason, Aemond and Aegon are exiled to Essos, Alicent joins the Silent Sisters, and Daeron marries Rhaena.
Rhaenyra is crowned queen and names Rhaenys as her hand.
The End.
this is a wonderful plan if the blacks have a magical gadget that can freeze aemond and aegon and all the dragons\armies of the greens. 🙄
What about Helaena? What would happen to her?
That's not gonna happen. It's completely wrong speculation.
More than 10 dragons will die.
More than 7-8 battles follow all over the westeros.
Riverlands become playground for vhagar and armies.
Only 3 people of this room survive till the end.
Corlys, rhaena and baela.
@@Noone91875 laughs in daemon
Not before suffering a grievous loss, Rhaenys dying in battle against one eye and king brat, and the blacks lose arguably their wisest member and embitter Corlys….
In the uncut version on the show you can see more clearly how Corlys's grandaughters stood proudly with Luke and Jace, and Corlys took note of it.
I need a spin off of lord Corlys' journeys!!
Where is Daemon? is underrated dialogue
Corlys is saying "I might be in ur side but I would like to have some talks aith daemon"
where is daemond?
singing lullaby to vermethor..
the casting is so good 0:58 she looks just like jace
Ok but emma looks absolutely stunning in this scene
When the Valaryon theme hits in 3:08. 😮💨🤌🏾
Chadlys Velaryon, Lord of Dripmark
The Velaryons must love suffering to stay with Rhaenyra. The girl only gave them trouble, and it's just the beginning !
Spoilers:
Gets Laenor killed, gets Vaemond killed, gets Rhaenys killed, gets their fleet mostly destroyed, gets a thriving town on their island sacked and their most beautifull castle destroyed, tries to kill Velaryon bastards, imprisions Corlys. Rhaenyra really ruined everything for House Velaryon and everything Corlys ever worked for.
@@masterplokoon8803 I am team Black, but, this show did a piss poor job explaining why House Velaryon backed Rhaenrya. It makes no sense. All they've received is disrespect from them. After Laena's funeral and Laenor's death, they should have cut ties and remained neutral.
I really liked him. Good Characters him and the Queen that never was
2:19 this is why I love her! She knows she queen by right but she won’t be the one that plunges her fathers realm into war!
What a handsome character corlys valyreon is 👌👌
it's so funny how the Starks take so bloody long to gather an army and journey down south they reach the capital and the war is basically done and they conquer and rule the city with ease. Then they all just get bored and the northmen all just leave the city and go back up north many settling in the river lands as they'd left the North without planning to ever return
Between his idea here and his next idea about the dragon seeds, it seems like all of Jace’s ideas end up having terrible outcomes 😭😂💀
I do find it surprising that they don't mention House Tyrell considering that they are both Lord Paramount of the Reach and House Hightower's overlords. Even with their lord being but a babe whose mother rules as regent, House Tyrell surely have enough support and power in the Reach to make the Hightowers back off.
House Tyrell are the overlords yes but their grip over the reach is fragile at this time period, they were mere Stewart to the gardners and were made lords by Aegon during the conquest the was only a century ago so the memories are still fresh. House Hightower was powerful enough to rival the gardners and the Tyrell simply don't have the strength to go against them, it is not said but obvious to people in westeros the the hightowers are the true power in the reach not the Tyrells at this time period, plus they now have dragons through the greens so technically they are the top 3 most powerful house in westeros.
@@adityasrivastava9394 True, but House Tyrell still possess a lot of money, food and manpower on their own even without their vassals. Plus, more Reach houses supported the Blacks than the Greens.
What makes you think the Tyrells will ally with the Targaryen-Velaryon force at this point? Even though House Hightower can be considered their rival to power, they have much closer ties with them than the Targaryens and Velaryons. Opposing the Hightowers would prove disadvatageous to The Reach as it will divide it. They would never consider that eventuality.
@@jennocontreras623 House Tyrell historically declared themselves neutral in the Dance. I'm just curious as to why the Black Council doesn't even mention them here.
I think it was assumed the Tyrells would back the Hightowers. The Tyrells are mentioned in the Green Council. House Hightower and House Tyrell have long been close and possibly already married (Margaery's mother was a hightower)
Rhaenyra should have sent Princess Rhaenys to Storms End to secure the Stormlands as she herself is a Baratheon.
Princess Rhaenys mother was a Baratheon. I think she’d have had better luck going to storms end. And even if she didn’t get him on their side, Aemond wouldn’t have killed her.
Rhaenys was Borros' first cousin, to boot; her mother was Borros Baratheon's father's little sister. Talk about a dysfunctional family.
@zaja2418 heck that can be applies to basically every Family/House in asoiaf
Yes! Luke should stay home and patrolling Dragonstone just like Daemon suggested. Or fly to Eyrie because Jeyne's support is obvious and she was his aunt
It’s hard sometimes knowing what’s going to happen in the books..
Calling her princess in the beginning.. What a savage!
Corlys : _"If we further seal the gullet, we can cut off all seaborne travel and trade to King's Landing."_
The Triarchy fighting for the Greens in 129AD : _"That's cute..."_
Almost ruined all the power of velaryons.
Battle of the gullet.
And it will happen in 130
Yet, they still didn't break Corlys blockade.
@@janellejulianajoy They did break the blockade and kill Jacerys
@@janellejulianajoy poor jaecerys
@@rohanshende4338 i mean sure but the greens and the triarchy never got their objectives. in fact the triarchy was effectively ruined by the end and the greens just keep brutalizing the rest as a strategy. also didnt help that the greens had A LOT of in fighting. i mean the hunt for the two betrayers, the moon of the three kings. the blacks was more united than ever, especially since jacaerys had basically united the forces loyal to rhaenyra together and continued to pursue the greens. in the end, the green may win battles but it was the blacks who won the war.
Daemon (allegedly) killed their son and made their daughter burn herself alive. Rhaenyra gave their son 3 most obvious bastards and not one true born Velarion. Daemon also decapitated Vaemond, making it 2(3 from public perspective) closest people Corlys had that Daemon killed. I can't think of a dumber decision than siding with Rhaenyra.
Don't worry; they won't side with Rhaenyra forever.
Read the books. Totally different.
@@mnicolemortensen7 Yep, in the books Rhaenyra fed Vaemond to Syrax.
@@mnicolemortensen7 unfortunately show is cannon. For instance, even though in books Ser Criston is a badass canonicaly he is a jackass like in the show
Daemon is their granddaughters father, what else are they supposed to do
3:44 the moment when Jace indirectly killed his brother and set into motion the events that would lead to his family’s ultimate downfall.
Rhaenyra would’ve sent Luke to Storm’s end either way, since he’s the youngest who’s she’s sending away and it’s a short flight.
And also is the moment where Jace puts himself in the position that will give the victory to the Blacks: the aliance with the Vale and the North. He doesn't live long enough to see this, neather Rhaenyra or Daemon, but young Aegon, his brother, will ascend the Iron Throne.
@@lucasbarrocolima why would u say that
Queen Rhaenyra speaks with much wisdom! WIshing to know who her allies are before sending them to war.
But she prefers sending others to their death, while Aegon fight his own battles...
@@alessiodandolo1460 Be for real, Rhaenyra was never trained to be on the battlefield like Aegon was.
@@vikctoryan15 Rhaenys was trained when she goes to Rook's Rest ? Baela was trained when she fights Aegon at Dragonstone ?
@@alessiodandolo1460 Alicent and Helena did not go into battle either and Helena had also a dragon. In the books, Baela trained with a sword and Rhaenys had a sword and a special armor made of steel and copper, so they were definitely more battlefield-bound than Rhaenyra and many other women at the time. Regardless, not everyone is meant for the battlefield... man or woman.
@@vikctoryan15 Helaena is a gentle spirit who is not actively seeking power and she is psychologically shattered in the beggining of the war hence why she never rides her dragon again. Alicent is not even a dragonrider. Rhaenyra wants the crown and wants to kill Aemond and Aegon and Daeron and yet not once does she ride her dragon into battle nor does she dare to go after any of them. She was a cruel tyrannical coward which is the worst kind there is. The fight at Rook's Rest was the first real fight that Rhaenys was actually involved in and she fought bravely against 2 dragons for someone who didn't deserve her.
Rhaenyra was known as a young Targaryen who wanted to serve the kingdom by riding her Dragon but was forbidden by Viserys at that time. When Jace offered himself to carry a message using a dragon to convince the high lords who received the letter, Rhaenyra realized that this was what dragon riders needed from a young age.
When they wrong them 101 ways and they still support her.
What are they supposed to do?
Both Corlys and Rhaenys LOVE their granddaughters. And they don't exactly hate Rhaenyra's kids. Laenor was rather okay with them and tried to fulfill a father's duty, he was all in the deal he made with Rhaenyra. I mean he seemed to get along well with Harwin.
So what are they supposed to do? Leave their family and line to die?
@@facundogonza5740 Plus the apparent heir to the iron throne is betrothed to their granddaughter. Would be odd to fight against them.
They have no choice remember there GrandDaughters are literally the Daughters of Daemon the current husband of Rhaenyra the Killer of Vaemond ,one of the ring-conspirator of alleged death of there son and also both Baela & Rhaena are Bethrohed to Jace & Luke and lastly Baela & Rhaena will still gonna side with Rhaenyra because of there Half/Brothers "Aegon III & Viserys III" & there Father Daemon who is ready to go war & has no intention to yield to the Greens and its look both Baela & Rhaena is also fully committed in there Step-Mother So what the Choice of Corlys & Rhaenys.
They hate the Hightowers more.
“The enemy of my enemy is my ally”
Can you imagine how things would have been if Jac went to storms end instead of Luc.
I think Jace could survive. He probably would remind Borros that his duty is ensure safety for envoy so he must stopped Aemond. And if Aemond tried catch Jace, he could fly away. He is more confident and don't go into panic like Luke
Same thing, really. Not much of a difference at all, as it would have ALL gone down the same.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Prince aemond did not hate Jayce as he did Luke.... remember Luke is the one who actually took his eye. And Aemond regretted and screamed "no" when Vhagar killed Luke. I believe Aemond/Vhagar would not have came after Jace like he did Luke.
@@spencer9093 lol What?! Aeomond doesn’t like EITHER one of them and he doesn’t care if Luke was the one who actually took his eye as Aeomond doesn’t like either ONE of them as he enjoyed taunting them and calling them BOTH Bastards, which they are by luring them in to both hit him as Aeomond did in the dinner scene with the family. You’re not making any sense by not getting this as Aeomond DID hate Jace entirely JUST like he hated Luke as they BOTH fought him and are BOTH responsible for taking his eye as it was brother effort.
Saying that Aeomond doesn’t hate have is you not paying attention to the story in the slightest based on what’s happened.
Aeomond ONLY “regretted” and “screamed no” when Vhagar accidentally killed Luke because it would start a war which would cause problems which it DOES, Aeomond wanted to scare and harass Luke, not kill him, but that doesn’t mean he actually cares for either one of them as Aeomond hates them both as they ALL hate each other. This should be EXTREMELY obvious which you’re not getting here as you can hate someone and not kill them due to later on consequences down the road, this is VERY obvious here.
Aeomond doesn’t care for EITHER of their lives, you’re not making any sense and you’re making up false information about the characters from not understanding the very obvious characters dynamics between them.
What you “bEliEvE” and “think” doesn’t make any sense as you’re naming up nonsense in the story about the characters as you fail to realize that Jace would have been more likely to run up to personally fight against Aeomond’s taunts and gotten killed in the process him Aeomond personally or his dragon JUST like in the dinner scene.
Either way, they were doomed for war REGARDLESS of who they sent as Aeomond and Vhagar WOULD have came RIGHT after Jace if he came even MORE SO seeing how easily Jace gets provoked and he would gotten killed quicker than luke did.
It was doomed to war EITHER was as Aemond, Luke, and Jace ALL hate each other but they don’t want to be causing wars at all; but it happened due to outside interference from the dragons regardless. This should be obvious here, come on, I should have to state this at all!
@@Gadget-Walkmen Eh I think it goes differnetly, I don't think Aemond bothers going after Jace like that, he was really pissed about the eye thing. He probably just taughts him and tells him to run away.
Man I don't care what people say - the dude has a mop for a head.
I never understood the Velaryon siding with Rhaenyra after Laena and Laenor. 😅😅
Don't worry. It'll be fixed. It won't be the last time Rhaenyra treats the Velaryon like garbage. Even their patience will run out.
Laena's death a tragic case of misfortune. Women die in childbirth sometimes but it's not anyone's fault. As for Laenor, they don't have proof that they were involved with his 'murder'. Even if Corlys and Rhaenys don't like Rhaenerya and Daemon, they still have grandchildren from them. Well, two legit ones anyway. If the girls want to support their paternal family, then Corlys and Rhaenys have no choice but to go along with it.
@@gooby214 Right! I am team Black, but I hope Corlys really lights into Rhaenyra's ass after Rook's Rest, especially when it looks like Baela is there as well.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl They certainly have a choice. Rhaenys had no intention of staying on Dragonstone, she was going to take the girls and leave. Baela stopped her.
Emma D'arcy is soo dang beautiful as a blonde!! 😍
Corlys is an awesome character, and I’ve never seen the actor that plays him before but he’s fuckin great
The actor, - Steve Toussaint, has a very early role in the 90s British cult classic movie, ID (police go undercover as football hooligans). He is the one that asks Trevor in the first pub about Josh Carrera. Looks like the Lord of Tides was a Shadwell fan
jace and luke look like hobbits
Rhaenys should’ve went with Luke to storms end. Borros would’ve had no choice but to honor his fathers oath
Its kinda unfair to the book readers, they already knew what will happen :'(
I like the parallel to Rhaenyra asking to send dragons into the stepstones in ep 2. Back then, her father refused her.
Now her own son asks for the same thing. She certainly can’t refuse this time.
I am rooting Rhaenyra. But I'm also sad because I read the book. As Ramsay Bolton once said, "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention."
She Said It Will NOT Be By Her Hand ! Remember That Folks She Never Wanted A War But Fought It Only When Her Hand Was Forced
Feel bad for the Velaryons, yes they were too ambitious and powerhungry but Rhaenyra literally destroyed their lives yet they have no other choice but to suport her for the sake of their grandchildren.
Velaryons at least keep existing as a Westerosi house, and fighting for Stannis. Targaryens are gone and exiled.
@@gooby214 they are very weakened and diminished. Corlys was responsible for both the rise and fall of the Velaryons as one of the most powerfull houses in Westeros.
@@masterplokoon8803 Maybe Aurane Waters will change that...or Faegon, or someone...one day. Who knows. What matters at this point is survival, not power...with winter, the Others, Euron's lovecraftian stuff, Dany's dragons...at least Velaryons keep their seat, unlike Targaryens, even while supporting Stannis. Perhaps one day...or not.
Can’t wait till season 2 when they decide to find another “ally”, House Greyjoy and the Red Kraken….
They won't declare for rhanyra until s3. And they did it just to humiliate and loot from rich lands of lannisters. Red kraken Will rebel against her son in future
@@Vintagefolklore also his neck was slashed by his own wife before alyn velaryon ( you will see him in s2) could reach to fight him.
Typical greyjoy shit!
Fight, rebel and die.
Anyone that takes garrison here never wins there war from this point on
What episode is this on HOD?
Corlys, Daemon and Cregan basically win the Dance of the Dragons
Course Corlys' betrays Rhaenyra when it becomes convienent for him.
Boo hoo, keep blindly excusing that piece of garbage Rhaenyra. The ungrateful animal literally treats him like crap, accuses him of things he didn't do, and has him locked in a cell and horribly treated. Corlys should've sided with the greens since the beginning.
When? What does he owe Rhaenyra? Absolutely nothing, however, she owes him a lot. He's allowing her children to use HIS name, knowing those boys are bastards. He still stands by her after believing they killed Laenor and Vaemond is killed for speaking the truth. I don't have a damn if he called Rhaenyra a whore, he told no lies. Rhaena and Baela being betrothed to her sons is a hail mary pass because she needed them, not the other way around.
Corlys betrays Rhaenyra after she orders Addam to be arrested and more than likely killed. Coryls himself is arrested for sending word to Addam. Why should he remain loyal? She didn't. Corlys and House Velaryon has faced nothing but disrespect from these people. Honestly? Corlys should have told all of them to kiss his ass after Laenor died.
They really should've know the Greens were gonna sent out riders too and that Aemond/Vhagar would be in the skies
Corly's support to Rhaenyra doesnt make sense. Had the Black won and Jacaerys Velaryon ascended the Iron Throne, he wouldve changed his name to Jacaerys Targaryen according to the condition of Rhaenyra's marriage to Laenor Valaryon. In that case, neither Corly's name nor his blood would be on the Iron Throne since he clearly knows that these arent his biological grandsons.
But jace is betrothed to baela their children will have Velaryon blood
Great scene
I watched this episode 1000 times, but just now noticed Daemon’s absence in this scene, what was he doing during this council? And why wasn’t he there? Considering he and Corlys have been close allies in the years before
Rhaneyra told Corlys that Daemon had other matters to attend to when Corys asked where's Damon. He was looking for that riderless dragon in that dark tunnel.
Such fake dreads... but I Love them! White dreads are literally the coolest Dreads! Especially ol Gray Rastas!!
Can't wait for season 2...
Waiting for the moment prince reaches winterfell
Funny how he strolls up and asks who here alleys are and she just openly tells him without knowing who’s side he’s on yet
Because he wouldn’t be there for no reason. Rhaenyra and Daemon were both expecting him to
@@adrianneagoe3652 and if he was just a spy? You shouldn’t give information without knowing who’s side they are on
Corlys is the one who ends up ruling the 7 Kingdoms as the most powerful Regent. Sadly at great cost
So the people who supported Rhaenyra are also the people weonged by Otto Hightower. Corlys was failed because King married Otto's daughter not his. Daemon chose Rhaenyra against Otto for obvious reasons. And others are either just guards and small houses who are not significant.
In short, Rhaenyra's position got so weak over the years. She should have just got Greens murdered in a sitting like Tywin did at Red Wedding and should rule in peace. This way, dragons would have remained secure and House Targeryean would have survived even after the Mad King and actually would have taken part in The Long Night as grand rulers, not just allies. The opposition Daenerys faced would never have existed. So we should all know that HOTD events decided whatever happened to houses in GOT
Pfft, please. So much delusions, copium, and fantasies. EVERYTHING could've happened if Rhaenyra won. EVERYTHING bad. Easy to think everything would've been just fine if the blacks killed everyone. Not that simple, and not without repercussions. Also, things CAN change and other wars can happen before GOT. Stop acting as if no other conflict, crisis, and potential fall of the Targaryens would've happened if Rhaenyra won. No one knows what could've happened, and the idea of the Targaryens being perfectly successful for centuries, if Rhae lived, is ridiculous. Also with the Blackfyre rebellions and other crisis.
If i was Rheanarya i would've done one thing different. I would've sent Rheanys with Luke to Storm's End as well as Rheana after having her bond with either Vermithor or Silverwing, Rheana wouldn't be there to add anything diplomaticly like Rheanys would but having two more dragons would be a good deterrent against Vhagar
She didn't know that the Trip to Storm's End have f*cking Vhagar 😅😅😅Literally sending Luke there cause Storm's End nearrrr Dragon Stone
I can’t with Jace’s hairstyle - the actor actually has dark curly hair (which would be fitting for his resemblance to Harwin) but why did they give him Troy Bolton hairrrrr
Yeah, Jacaerys' actor kinda looks like a mini Harwin with his real life haircut. I still don't know why they gave him that cut/wig.
Corlys was only concerned with keeping power INSIDE the targaryan lineage. At the very least from a legitimate standpoint Bastards or not her child with Daemon was pure valyrian and her kids with Strong were also dragon riders meaning the blood of the dragon flowed through them that they could pass on.
Also even if they are bastards, the Strongs would have no claim legitimately as Laenor was their "legitimate" father on paper.
So with Rhenyra at the throne the targarean line would be secure and Corlys marry his daughters off to her sons and secure the dynasty.
This was never about loyalty as Viserys jilted his daughter for marriage. Refused to send a fleet to kill the crabfeeder and most importantly he lost his son and brother to Viserys's side.
oh man i can't wait to see Winterfell again!
I’m honestly just waiting for my man Lord Stark to set this shit straight
Mentioning House Stark.....I think we will see them in Season 2 (finally)
We see Rickon Stark in season 1.
For all of 4 seconds but still.
@@Extract99 I'm sorry I meant as featured characters.
@@maestroclassico5801 Yeah, I get it. Shame we didn't see Cregan Stark. During the events of the later half of season 1, he has a pretty cool story where he has to take back Winterfell from his uncle.
It is kind of questionable sending your oldest to do the two easiest I guess speed of his dragon is a factor but still the cake and north are easy wins. The storm lords are a different story. They are the ones you need especially where they are situated
She should’ve let Luke fly North and let one of the twins or Jace to fly to Storms End
Rhaeneyra expected him to have a warm welcome from Lord Borros, who she thought would be proud to host a royal prince in his halls. Plus it was a shorter round trip. Jace's mission to the North and the Vale was considered a more difficult one though.
Arrax was a young and small dragon, it would've been very tiring going all the way to the Vale and the North. The trip to the Stormlands was short. And Jace's dragon Vermax was a lot bigger and could make the trip north smoother and safer. As Prince of Dragonstone he was expected to take a lot more responsibilities. Rhaenyra was very lucky Jace was her heir, he was more diplomatically inclined.
But in the end her second born was murdered by her half brother and his dragon
No, Rhaenys should've flown to Storm's End. The Baratheon line is through her, because unlike Rhaenyra's sons, she's actually related to them by blood.
Rhaena doesn't have a dragon and Baela's is still too small to fly at this point.
@historicalfigurestoday don't let the DUP suppress @USAMarine #Coleraine ❤
The Dance of the Dragons was gonna happen anyway because
King Jaehaerys Targaryen the old king knew this would happen 30 years later before his death what’s done cannot be undone. You can’t change the past but you can learn from it.
Well would you look at that, the last Velaryon.
“And the cost of breaking them is that daemon will come after them after the war “😂simple u get the support from whoever u want 😂🤷♂️
her second parents 🤕
A blockade by land, sea and Sky. Rhaenyras plan to take the Iron Throne would’ve worked.
I know this is nitpicky but Rhaenys should have black hair
They assumed that the casual viewers would be too stupid to understand that not all Targaryens have silver hair (even though they know about Jon Snow).