Shiz(Fox) M2K(Marth) 3 Revival of Melee Losers Finals 3

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  • Round three of losers finals.

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  • @pinguinkip0
    @pinguinkip0 15 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That last kill was pure epicness. This stuff is insane, and my respect for M2K has gone up a LOT.

  • @Mammothrib
    @Mammothrib 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also, the next match was DEFINITELY awesome, this is an amazing set and I'm glad I recently came back to watch it for no reason.

  • @JDzork
    @JDzork 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    back in the day, Melee was so hyped up. I wish I was older during that time

    • @Dankyjrthethird
      @Dankyjrthethird 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +JDEADPOOL23
      it's still like this at locals (at least in alberta). its just that big tournament streams/vods are toned down

  • @thanyou
    @thanyou 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yes! These guys are the reason I've started playing melee again.

  • @yourstillwithme
    @yourstillwithme 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:01 could have turned into the prettiest combo ever. Period.

  • @ender81
    @ender81 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    this seems like the second match because it started off with m2k as sheik and shiz still fox, but in the match labeled "round 2" m2k is already marth and shiz is on falco.

  • @Arkwite
    @Arkwite 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HOW THE HELL CAN M2K BE SO DAMN GOOD?!

  • @Michael-hc2hp
    @Michael-hc2hp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The calm before the storm

  • @IndigoR
    @IndigoR 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    That reverse Fair combo was awesome, even though it didn't get a good finish.

  • @toastps
    @toastps 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the pause of silence waiting for that dair

  • @PakmanOnCrack
    @PakmanOnCrack  15 ปีที่แล้ว

    It started from an Evo crowd. The normal fighting game crowds get VERY hyped about the matches. During a snap pop (i think that is what it is called) in MvC 2 the crowds shout "oh" with the hits. It gets people hyped.

  • @meleefreak9001
    @meleefreak9001 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DippNDots
    I know that fox has the disadvantage on FD, however on every other stage fox can use platforms to extend his combos and use lasers to force marth to approach. I know the matchup is close but the only way marth wins is if the marth is spacing incredibly well and if they don't miss combos. If there was more than one stage with no platforms I think the matchup might be more even

  • @PsykoChicken
    @PsykoChicken 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha, oh man. Those are my two favorite characters to play in Melee, but I can't help laughing at this video from the crowd.
    That guy yelling "OH MY GOD." Haha!

  • @Snoofalah
    @Snoofalah 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually like this real cheering. It adds to the effect of the game.

  • @DippNDots
    @DippNDots 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @RadicallyDreaming Reasons why its even for marth, a grab is very devastating, even on a level with platforms, marth can poke his sword through all side platforms, excluding dreamland(only one stage). Marth can gimp fox at any percent, can combo him into KO moves at reasonable percents, and has easy edge guard KOs. Frankly, they can kill each other just as hard as each other. The match up revolves around reads and pushing the advantage as much as you can each time you get it, without fucking up.

  • @LealFireball
    @LealFireball 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    OH MY GOD!
    Best crowd ever! melee is coming back!

  • @Lovage805
    @Lovage805 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol right as hes about to spike shiz at the end i can hear my self yelling "DONT DO ITTT"

  • @ssbmPi
    @ssbmPi 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a crouch cancel
    You can crouch out of a running animation then do whatever you like
    Run, tap or hold down, then do whatever

  • @FooeyMcgooey
    @FooeyMcgooey 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That room was never the same. SHIT HIT THE FAN!

  • @DirEnRefused
    @DirEnRefused 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus, the crowd whenever M2k gets that grab, awesome.

  • @Slashtap
    @Slashtap 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    M2K is a bit modest about his reaction skills. He told me his reaction is average and that he mainly succeeds based on experience, but in this match his perfect reaction dominated. Replay some of those chaingrabs, and you'll find he judged Shiz' DI very quickly in this match. There were a few points I honestly could not tell that Shiz would land behind M2K, but M2K saw it in an instant. CGing on FD are all over youtube, but you'll find in this one the Marth prolongs it with great reading.

  • @Tesl8n
    @Tesl8n 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    My god. M2kKs Marth makes me want to switch to Melee from Plus. Freakin' INSANE!

  • @maxnul
    @maxnul 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dónde está?

  • @DippNDots
    @DippNDots 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DippNDots and that in general it's actually the most even match up outside of mirrors

  • @Messuduppotatoasia
    @Messuduppotatoasia 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the commentary. They're like oh oh ooh ooh oooh Oooooooh my god. And I'm an atheist.

  • @millionairejh
    @millionairejh 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol my heart dropped at 0:31 , i was like oh no dont die m2k, then he pulls up B kill, .. who woulda ever thought

  • @Mammothrib
    @Mammothrib 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poorly worded: What I meant was that the CG was not all to blame for Shiz's loss.
    The CG damage on the first stock was inconsequential, Shiz's predictable recovery was the bigger factor on that and his fourth stock and if even that had been different the match would likely have been much closer.
    The CG really took its toll on the second stock, but even then Shiz lived to ~160%, arguably because it's FD and Marth.
    It's a tough matchup for sure, but Fox has the ability to overcome.

  • @meleefreak9001
    @meleefreak9001 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @BrosConde
    On corneria the fox can camp using lasers (because it's such a huge stage) and use the low ceiling on the wing to get easy upsmash/ up throw up air kills. The only way marth beats fox is if you outspace and outplay the fox, yes you have a slight advantage in terms of combos on FD but not that much and all a fox has to do is ban FD and it takes it out of the question.

  • @takeover1806
    @takeover1806 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    the last match was probably the best match of the tournament but this match was epic on how m2k came out aggressive from the start.. THE FINAL BOSS lol

  • @TheK3vin
    @TheK3vin 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did he reverse direction before the up+b at 0:31?

  • @Dahniska1
    @Dahniska1 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    That reverse Dolphin slash was very skillful.

  • @Spiife
    @Spiife 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    This set was AMAZING but this match is fucking nuts on it's own. Too much hype.

  • @BirdAsBond
    @BirdAsBond 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol that wasn't my voice in the video but I was also shouting that in the back of the crowd

  • @Xyrofen
    @Xyrofen 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sexiest thing ever. The commentating made it even better.

  • @Strong_Badam
    @Strong_Badam 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last combo was great!

  • @turazrok
    @turazrok 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    if m2k doesnt play melee anymore, i have zero idea why watching this

  • @YoshiFanGM
    @YoshiFanGM 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's the final boss!
    ¿DóNDE ESTáS? xD (Where are you at?)
    Melee matches are best :3

  • @MehTahNite
    @MehTahNite 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    on that 1st stock, m2k jumped into the grand canyon to upb shiz; the last stock, he jumped into an abyss or something for the dair; these 2 better be going to Genesis...

  • @BlackVice80
    @BlackVice80 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    well, seeing as this was a competition, am i wrong to assume that one of the points in it was winning?

  • @soccermaster25
    @soccermaster25 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    how can you concentrate when the crowd is that loud?

  • @Slartibartfast242
    @Slartibartfast242 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Donde Estas? = where are you at?
    Also, M2K is too good.

  • @DippNDots
    @DippNDots 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @meleefreak9001 general consensus is that fox vs marth is stage dependent, on fd marth has the advantage, this match should show you why.

  • @rocksbarman
    @rocksbarman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheK3vin he didn't, he reversed right when pressing up+b

  • @MaestroCasts
    @MaestroCasts 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @BrosConde Fox has a significant advantage on Corneria, but Corneria isn't legal anymore. This is good for Marth players, although Fox still has a significant advantage on all counterpicks.

  • @MaestroCasts
    @MaestroCasts 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DippNDots And here's why it ultimately favors Fox, if only by a little: if Fox really wants to, he can camp Marth really hard and force him to approach. I've been camped by Foxes in tournament before. It definitely puts him at the advantage and there's not much Marth can do besides play better.

  • @MaestroCasts
    @MaestroCasts 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @untouchedking This matchup is in Fox's favor. FD is only one stage, and almost half of the characters in the game can chainthrow Fox on it. It doesn't mean any of them have an advantage against him.

  • @IndigoR
    @IndigoR 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MERCILESS

  • @Tiajuan
    @Tiajuan 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree. I think Shiz would have beat M2K on another day but after Mango cheesed him M2K had to much determination to get to the grand finals.

  • @flareneos1
    @flareneos1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just imagine how it is right now at Genesis.

  • @DirEnRefused
    @DirEnRefused 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    These matches were so much more intense then Grand Finals.

  • @PakmanOnCrack
    @PakmanOnCrack  15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really have no idea. You are probably right though. The thing Magneto does in the it's mahvel babee video.

  • @xjtbarnesx
    @xjtbarnesx 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    These games are so much fun to watch :D

  • @P0K3M0NL0V3R
    @P0K3M0NL0V3R 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone wanna guess what the noise at the end was?

  • @pewpew2
    @pewpew2 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful indeed.

  • @GawdImTom
    @GawdImTom 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    M2K is going to HERB2. He hasn't quit.

  • @alienJIZ1990
    @alienJIZ1990 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @SharinganM21 thats how you play against fox with marth dude, unless you wanna get dair'd to waveshined to shinespiked all day. most (if not all) of marths moves have lag that fox can easily punish if you miss, grabs to Utilt to (instert move(s) of choice here) is pretty much the only safe option

  • @michael16862
    @michael16862 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    That first stock made me smile :D

  • @GawdImTom
    @GawdImTom 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    M2K is a godly Marth. But I'd have to say he's screwed when Shiz finds a way to counter his gimps and CG'ing.

  • @Mammothrib
    @Mammothrib 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    The balance is still good, like I said the CG is NOT insurmountable. We notice M2K beasting with the CG in this vid but we also should note that Shiz was keeping up decently well in spite of it. Poor recovery leading to low % deaths and lots of extra damage was just as big a factor. With proper play he could easily win here.
    lol This match and Brawl, THAT my friend is a scary comparison.

  • @ElementX214
    @ElementX214 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG M2K marth on melee is da bess COMBOS WAS SO FUCKING SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Zaiqahal
    @Zaiqahal 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most hyped up match I've seen.

  • @PakmanOnCrack
    @PakmanOnCrack  15 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first match was Sheik Vs Falco and the Second was Sheik and Fox This is the third match

  • @O_RLY
    @O_RLY 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it just me, or did every stock look exactly the same?

  • @ephoenix7
    @ephoenix7 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    m2k should make a combo video where he chain grabs as marth over and over agian

  • @maxisku2
    @maxisku2 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goddamn, m2k vs. spacies on FD is just not fair.

  • @onepiecefan777
    @onepiecefan777 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    no sir, listen carefully. i have headphones on my comp and i can hear things you probably cannot but i clearly hear a faint female-like moan in the background after he says "whack" for the first time at 2:25

  • @R4Z0R98
    @R4Z0R98 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheWeeznut you got it wrong, moonRUNNING... like a boss.

  • @mmxcrono
    @mmxcrono 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    do they always have such hype guys?

  • @QueenDVS
    @QueenDVS 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    LMFAO @ PC yelling Rockcrock combo!
    hahah

  • @DrDirkHardpeck
    @DrDirkHardpeck 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe chain throwing is hard for you with Marth, my eyes react quick enough to read DI >_>

  • @MoogledKupo
    @MoogledKupo 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can hear the pause before the last hit

  • @SundarkSoldier
    @SundarkSoldier 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful finish.

  • @Mammothrib
    @Mammothrib 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also this matchup on FD is not unwinnable for Fox, this chaingrab is not an automatic win, Mew2king really is that good. But even if you don't feel comfortable taking Marth here, there are character counterpicks, stage counterpicks, and stage striking to insure that you avoid this situation. There is nothing here that can't be overcome.

  • @KojinSagara
    @KojinSagara 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    he got two stocked in this round. that doesn't sound like he was keeping up with him at all. the CG and the Marth on FD against a good player is a big disadvantage. the next match was awesome tho.

  • @Orkonaut
    @Orkonaut 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    That lost stock was dirty.

  • @mylee197
    @mylee197 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok, if you're saying this to me, you're pretty wrong in some ways. I don't believe I mentioned anywhere that I was pissed off that M2K quit melee or if he even quit. I do like watching M2K play but that doesn't mean I idolize him. Maybe you should take the time to get to know people before saying something like this instead of judging me or anyone else based off a few comments in one video.

  • @darksyde3000
    @darksyde3000 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Blueforce707 Ken was the best in like...2006. M2K dominated the smash world for several years after that up until the reign of Mango started.

  • @mylee197
    @mylee197 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @darksyde3000 M2K didn't dominate several years after Ken retired. He dominated 2007 and a little of 2008 up until Pound 3.

  • @psy361
    @psy361 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    DSW's DI is so good.

  • @jkim519
    @jkim519 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds like they're all at a bar chugging beer or something

  • @pokemasterelite
    @pokemasterelite 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheWeeznut no look at the animation again. its a wavedash to forward dash. man he would fuck you up (no pun intended) with just mindgames if your tripping out by this, no offense.

  • @Yardomaster
    @Yardomaster 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dash cancel, press down. It's easier to use the c-stick to smash after pressing down.

  • @ricksmasher
    @ricksmasher 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's what i call a MONSTER ¡¡¡¡¡

  • @Tugnus
    @Tugnus 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MafiaMinusMadness Mango does some sexy moonwalking with his spacies

  • @Jyphlosion
    @Jyphlosion 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice WIGGLESNARF by Shiz at 1:37

  • @Arthur7192
    @Arthur7192 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the part,when they fight.

  • @TheFishSnacks
    @TheFishSnacks 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    a fox vs. m2k's marth on final des? I knew the outcome of this fight before I pressed play

  • @Burlux2
    @Burlux2 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    i heard it too but i think its not what you think

  • @ItMustBeFate1
    @ItMustBeFate1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    set was so hype.

  • @Mammothrib
    @Mammothrib 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cannot do an infinite amount with this chaingrab, M2K didn't just stop CGing him because he got bored lol.
    Plus this CG only works on Fox/Falco and only on this stage for any decent period of time, and dear Lord it is way harder to grab a good Falco than M2K makes it look. It's because M2K is so good that he was able to CG in the first place.
    This is not exactly an imbalanced situation. I'll agree that the world is bad and has no values but I don't think it applies here.

  • @godalmightywtf
    @godalmightywtf 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:32 I had to pause the video because I was laughing too hard

  • @OWmofat
    @OWmofat 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AWESOME

  • @Mammothrib
    @Mammothrib 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, I mean the CG can NOT "potentially" do infinite damage; it doesn't work after a certain %.
    Even if Marth could not do this CG, he would still have a much higher "overall value." In a single matchup or two on one stage, what Marth can do has little impact on how good he really is.
    It's not like Fox's waveshining, etc. on half the cast on stages that are now banned. THAT was broken.

  • @VexKasrani
    @VexKasrani 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    its legit, i guess you don't like falco's lasers or fox's shine either huh?

  • @GawdImTom
    @GawdImTom 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    He thought M2K was going to stay Sheik. For whatever reason.

  • @Shadowisawsome1
    @Shadowisawsome1 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the chain grab M2K did.

  • @AceDudeyeah
    @AceDudeyeah 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I woulda chosen a fsmash after that bair, but hey, m2k always gets 4 more hits in before that fsmash/knee

  • @daniespshanks
    @daniespshanks 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    that last stock was awesome 2:17 - 2:32

  • @Yoububehahaha
    @Yoububehahaha 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:20 is my favorite part LOL

  • @Affinity2412
    @Affinity2412 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    omfg at that last stock