Chopin Etude Op. 10, No. 12 "Revolutionary" Piano Tutorial (recorded 2011, will redo May 2024)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2017
- Added score to 2011 tutorial. Level 6. C Minor. Please read pinned comment for errors caught! Thanks to TomCat who found another error in 2022. In the LH, D-flat should D-natural @9:23.
Too many errors! Will make a completely new tutorial in May 2024.
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The slow playing is actually perfect to get a sense of the 3 against 4 rhythm at 3rd page. Thanks!
Also at 14:08 you missed a G octave which is not really of importance
Thanks for writing. Oops, missing the G octave is not good! Will pin your comment to the top so others will see it.
Thanks to @TomCat who found another error in 2022. In the LH, D-flat should D-natural @9:23
@@janepianotutorials I'm surprised you even remember this comment haha. Looking back, I can't really see the G that I said you missed
@@alexismandelias your comment was pinned, because only one comment can be pinned, I added a recently caught error as a reply to yours. Hope you’re doing well !
I only started learning this piece last week, I found out about this video and it helped me SOOO much. I watch this every day, Jane is obviously god gifted:))))))
Glad it helped! Thanks for the compliment, am just an ordinary nerd :)))))
You are nerd Jane.;))))))))
Thank you so much Jane! I watched your video on Czerny’s etude in a minor ( op. 740 no. 8 ) and it helped me a lot. It’s really nice having a slower version, especially for pieces that should be played fast. I’m planning on working on this etude next when I finish my exam in June. Your work is amazing ❤️
You're welcome, Moon Shine. Good luck with school and have a wonderful summer practicing piano!
Thank you so much, you are the only one on youtube that managed to help me with the fingering on the left hand arpeggios
Great, thanks for writing 😊
I can finally play this piece because of your video...Thank you!
Wonderful!
Congratulations for your 100K subscribers, you're doing a really great job, I hope the best for you and again, congratulations!
Thank you very much, Cherif :)
Very helpful, I'm going to have a meeting with a teacher in musical conservatory and I need to show the teacher what kind of level I am and I was sure that I had so much sight reading mistakes !! This was just perfect ! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful. Good luck with your meeting!
A fabulous tutorial once again! Thank you so much for sharing. Bless you. Yoan. xxx
Thank you, Daniel. Appreciate your nice message!
@@janepianotutorials Hello ! And how much time i need to spend on Chopin's revolutionary etude study to play it completely. I have been playing it for more than a year, but I just can’t play it fast. Thank you.
Best tutorial ever!!!!! I am practicing this piece now and it is so hard.
Thanks Cathy!!! slow practice and gradually pick up the pace. one short section at a time. Good luck!
Just incredible. Playing this Etude at the speed you sight read it seems already beyond level 6... Let alone Pollini... :))))
Thank you, Schlomoh. Not quite sight-reading?... learned it 50+ yrs ago
Well, I guess many ladies would wish to look as fresh as this Etude after a time span of 50 years... ;))))
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Wonderfull Jane !!!!❤❤❤
Appreciate your kind comment 🥰
The best slow motion video I've ever seen, tks mchhh
Appreciate your positive feedback!
@@janepianotutorials 🌺 greetings from Cali 🇨🇴
Perfect lesson
Thank you
You’re welcome, and thanks for your compliment!
Thanks a lot!
You're welcome!
thank you very much!!!
You're welcome, Oriana !
Hello Jane, thank you so much for your channel. Thanks to you I can play Debussy's Arabesque 1 which I had never thought I would be able to one day. However, I don't understand why you have indicated level 6 for this one which seems to me so much harder than the Debussy (which you'd written as a 7). It's meant to be played very fast isn't it? Are there any other Etudes by Chopin that you would consider playable for someone who is really more of a level 6? Thank you!
Hi Claire, my levels are just estimates, based on how difficult I found the piece to sight-read while making the tutorial. Because my sight-reading is improving from making tutorials daily, the levels might get lower and lower :) For me, the Op.10/12 is easier than The Ocean, also the Op.10/3, except for the midsection. Those are ones my teacher assigned. But difficulty varies among players, it depends on hand structure, flexibility, and whether you practice scales/arpeggios. I was skilled at the latter before I played Chopin Etudes.
+100.000 subscriber.. im so happy!!
thank you :)
I think this piece more difficult. The melodic intentions that Chopin put in this music are more dramatic (what it seems to me - listen the beautiful chord played on 4:09min). Thank you Jane for playing this music. This score is on my folder.
It is an advanced and wonderful piece. Good luck learning it in the future.
Yo sueño con poder tocar este estudio pero apenas estoy empezando el nivel 5, pero tu tutorial me da muchos ánimos para empezar a intentarlo.
Saludos
Takes time and patience, and lots of practice. Good luck!
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When you say level 6 (or in any of your other videos where you mention the level) is that ABRSM, henle, of something else? Just wondering. Good tutorial.
My levels are usually based on how easy or difficult it was for me to sight read while making the tutorial. Just a rough guide.
Jane makes sense. Thanks for responding
Hi Jane. Thank you for uploading your videos they really helped me. I am having problems coordinating those unusual triplets in the right hand with the left hand. I've practiced with your video many times slowly and I'm still super confused about how to make it work. Are they any exercises that might help please? I don't normally have problems with playing triplets but here it's so tricky. Thank you
These are 3 against 4 polyrhythms. Made tutorials. You’ll find various links on my website by entering “polyrhythms” in the search box. Good luck.
@@janepianotutorials thank you
Hi jane :) I've recently discovered that you put the level of difficulties in the description for the videos you put out. And I've been watching your Chopin etudes lately. You said this was a 6 on the difficulty and ocean was 8. Is it bad that I find both at 8? Or revolutionary even harder? XD cause ocean is easy to read and abit hard to play while revolutionary is hard at both.
My levels are very subjective (and silly?), they are based on how difficult I found the piece to sight-read while making the tutorial.
Doubt the Revolutionary is harder, for that is the first etude my teacher assigned. I think the most logical way to find out whether we are ready to tackle a piece is: take a short section that looks most difficult. practice just that for 3 days (15 minutes each time?), if we can learn it, we should be able to learn the entire piece.
Jane oh, thanks :). I can play revolutionary though. I just think it's harder than ocean. Maybe at the same level as op. 10 no 4 or op. 25 no 11. But I'm amazed that you can easily read pieces like this. I read the revolutionary for about 3-4 months long, so I do need practice :)
not as easy as it looks, when I make mistakes, I back up, then edit with pc software. nerdy work
@@janepianotutorials thanks for this tip! will definitely apply it :) XX
I've currently learned 1/4 of this pieces, I was wondering if you knew of another etude of similar difficulty that could have more emphasis on right hand (most pieces I play work on both but including this piece in, gives an uneven tiredness to the left over right)
how about Op.10/5 and Op.25/2 ?
Jane tried op 10 no 5 for a bit but didn't enjoy it, but hearing op 25 no 2 the more I listen to it the more I like it although I know it's really difficult. Thx Jane
Op10/5 is nice. you'll like it if you listen to it a few more times. many great pieces take getting used to :)
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Thx you
Thank you too 😊
For myself:
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thanks!!!!
You’re welcome!
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It is our duty not to let these precious treasures by Jane get lost in the flow of time.
That’s so sweet, Neel. Thank you.
@@janepianotutorials I finally learned this piece thanks to your video. Seeing actual keys getting hit while reading sheet music definitely helps a LOT. Thank you.
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Hello jane.how is your idea about of D flat in measure 34 at left hand instead of D natural???
what timestamp is measure 34? if editions vary there, play the note that sounds better to you
Abut 9:23 dear
@@tomcat5467 I must say that D flat hurt my ears! You are the first to notice my error after all this time. YT allows only one pinned comment. Do you mind posting your error-catch as a reply under the pinned comment so others will see it? Thanks.
@@janepianotutorials hello again jane
You are free about of it.
I saw you amphasis about of it
Very exellent and you are a really good instructur of uni.
And also the best sight player of note in piano teaching😊👍👍😇🇮🇷😇😇thank you very much.
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Can I have sheet music in pdf format?
Yes, we can download it (free) from IMSLP, the best site for classical scores. Google search "chopin etudes IMSLP"
what does the c next to all the bemols in the beginning mean?
Good question, C is a symbol for 4/4, each measure consists of 4 quarter notes. Take a look at my easy sight reading series?
@@janepianotutorials thank you! i will
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I started learning this when lockdown started.Think I'm trying to get up to speed too quickly ? Maybe that way you are just practicing errors ?
Yes, speeding up too quickly causes messy playing. My advice is to force yourself to obey a metronome. Set it to your competent speed, upon each repeat tick it up 1 or 2 bpm until you reach the desired tempo. Have fun practicing!
Спасибо большое за аппликатуру, часто путался с ней, пальци в узел сворачивались.
You’re welcome, in case this fingering doesn’t suit your hand structure, check IMSLP for other editions.
at what exact tempo is this piece?
My tutorial or the actual performance? If the former, set your metronome to 60 bpm (1 beat per second), then adjust it up or down until it matches. If the latter, listen to concert artists. Their tempos will not match exactly.
Jane the actual performance
Tempo is fast but not exact. When you compare concert artist performances, you’ll notice it’s difficult to pick a “favorite “, the fastest is usually not the best. You have to decide for yourself.
well its safe to say with your tutorials i have been able to learn op 10 no 12 and op 25 no 12 (which isnt perfect yet) and especially fantasie impromtu your tutorial helped massively with that piece. but i couldnt of done it without your help thank you for these tutorials!!! please have a listen on my page and give me any feedback you can ive only been playing for 18 months and i really struggle with reading music but im slowly getting better at it.
Watched your 3 uploads. Impressed. Commented under your Ocean Etude. Reading the score will help with the Fantasy Impromptu, because the dynamics and accented notes are indicated clearly. Did you study my sight reading lessons?
@@janepianotutorials no I haven't had a look at them but I will definitely take a look. I find it difficult to read the sheets of complex pieces as its a bit of a overload for my brain. But I was able to determine the polyrhythm through you're slow video and matching it to the sheets it did take a while but I managed it in the end. I'm thinking of learning less complex pieces to help me build up my sheet reading ability. But I will study your sight reading tutorials tonight. I just want to say thank you for your hard work as it has helped me and no doubt many others who are struggling
9:24 the D is natural... not Db
Oh my, after all this time 😊 Glad you’re careful and thanks for writing. Already pinned (only 1 allowed) an error comment. Can you add yours as a reply to that one? Thanks!
If you can play it slow, you can play it fast
True, but use a metronome and increase the tempo incrementally. Otherwise it’ll come out uneven.
Twoset reference, oh yeah
I understand correctly, you played the rhythmic triplet incorrectly here 14:58
Thanks, you are correct. I messed up this one. The pinned comment mentions problems too. I should redo this one completely ❤️
Leider sieht man nicht alle Fingergriffe.
Focus on my finger movement, not what the fingers hide! 😂
En el minuto 9.23 es re natural y no bemol la partitura está mal .. revisar
Chopin editions differ the most. Manuscript must be difficult to decipher...
I am the ceo of the revolutionary etude
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Вот это оно расстроено...
upset?
@@janepianotutorials how much I hear - yes. But this is just my opinion..
@@janepianotutorials sorry, i'm from ukraine and i don't know english well