Chopin Etude Op. 10, No. 4 Piano Tutorial
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ม.ค. 2020
- Added score to 2011 tutorial and fixed the errors. Level 7, C-sharp Minor. This is painfully slow. Might be better to apply the 2x speed.
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Jane, a retired university math teacher, started this volunteer project in April 2009. Positive feedback from wonderful viewers worldwide keeps her motivated. Jane is a strong advocate of reading music. She made unconventional sight-reading lessons that simplifies reading music.
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This video is the only reason I haven’t gone insane during quarantine
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Why fear when Jane is here! 😄 You have genuinely given me a lot of help mostly when I don't feel to read the confusing sheet music
Thanks, your opening sentence was funny 😊 To improve at reading, have to keep trying. Making mistakes is how we learn. Don’t let my tutorials slow your progress!
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Thank you very much, Jane. Great job.
You’re welcome, Neilram.
thanks for the tutorial, Jane
You're welcome, Simon.
Thank you very much for this tutorial! It helped my daughter a lot with learning this piece!
You’re welcome. Your daughter is playing advanced pieces!
Thanks for the tutorial ❤
You're welcome 🥰
Thank you so much for this video! I’m currently learning this and I’m never sure if I’m playing it correctly lol
You’re welcome, Matthew. That’s my intention for these tutorials - reference . Thanks for writing!
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My favorite Etude (with Op. 25 No 12...). To me this is the ultimate Etude for velocity. This tutorial is invaluable.
Can listen to these all day long... thanks for your invaluable compliment.
Get out
There’s so much that’s wrong with this comment ;~
Thank you! Merci mille fois, je ne sais pas comment je ferais sans cette chaine
You're very welcome,Taïna ! Thanks for writing
Thank you! You helped me a lot on self learning this piece!
Wow, good self-learning job!
연습할때 정말 많은 도움을 받습니다 :)
Glad it helps. Thanks for writing!
Thank you ...❤️
You’re welcome 😊
THANK YOU SO MUCH
You’re VERY welcome ☺️
Hi, thank you for your very good channel, but in some parts I heard altered notes that are not altered in the score, for example, in the mesaure of 31 or 32, if I do not say the number wrong, the note la is used in Sharp.
Hi, thanks for being careful. I do make mistakes so please go by your score. Chopin editions differ the most. His manuscripts must have been difficult to decipher. We can compare editions on IMSLP, the best free classical score website.
Hi! I'm learning this piece and I was wondering about the fingering you use in 2:41, different from the one at the begining. I also was considering this fingering because I have big hands and feels more comfortable (c# minor scale natural fingering), but I don't know if its correct to use it or if could be a drawback in fast tempo. What do you think?
Hi, you are careful. That's great. I try my best to follow the editor's fingering when making tutorials. In this case, the editor must have had fingering in the beginning but did not repeat it later, so I must have used my own the 2nd time. Here is a useful quote:
"...Be especially careful to choose the fingering which best suits your hand and the phrasing of the passage. Good editions of music usually have sensible fingerings, but if there is any department of piano playing where you should follow your own judgment it is that of fingering. The best teachers will always tell you that. Even such fine editing as that of Rafael Joseffy should not be followed in its fingering unless you feel it suits you. In fact Joseffy had some strange fingering crotchets -- such as changing fingers on repeated notes even in molto adagio passages -- which few wish to follow..." Charles Cooke, _Playing the Piano for Pleasure_
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Interetsing I also use 80% similar fingering as yours
I think it is even better for small hands(It basically uses more wrist)
I am really confused with that thumb on black keys as first part. Never trained or feel comfortable with the setting.
But I am afraid it is brought to 150 bpm, it might be a better choice idk😂
@@larghedoggo9607 I find that Schirmer editions fit my small hands (span 9) best. With IMSLP we can check a variety of editor fingering by testing a line or two, use the ‘view’ option instead of downloading the score.
@@janepianotutorials I see I see
Thanks for advice.
My hands are even smaller 🥲
No comfortable white key octaves on top in right hand.
(9th only in the edge and often impossible to play without rolling)
I often edit my own fingering but I am not sure about such speed etudes.
That 1234(initial on black keys sometimes) is ofc a circle of wrist but it seems to be intentional I see many other tutortials follow such fingerings too.
I will experient bit more and deciee!
I’m sorry I never got proper training but some questions
@8:28 is the 3rd note for right hand supposed to be A instead of A#?
@12:09 G for 16th note sounds right, but I only see indication from F->G in left hand, does it apply for right hand too?
Thanks
You are observant. I was playing from a different edition. Please read video description or pinned comments for caught errors. Chopin editions differ the most, his manuscripts must have been difficult to read. Play what sounds best to you? Can also compare editions on the free site IMSLP :)
Thanks a lot..sir!
You’re welcome. I am a woman 😊
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Oh..I am sorry ma'am..
Hello Jane! Do you recommend any technical exercises before I play this piece?😃 Thank you!!
This piece is assigned after a proper foundation is poured, and levels added 1 by 1. This etude, Level 7+, in itself, becomes the technical exercise. How many years have you been playing? Skilled at scales and arpeggios?
Jane I started playing when I was 6 then I stopped when I was 9, then I return again when I was 12 then I stopped again and I returned again when I was 14 😂
Yes I’m kinda skilled at scales and arpeggios
Pick one or two lines that look difficult, and practice only those. You’ll find out whether you’re ready without spending time on the entire piece.
Shows you miss playing. That’s a good sign 😊
YES, i will learn this, and after that I will challenge Valentina Listsa!!!
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I'm so sad, i can play first part and actually getting the tempo because I really love this etude.. but my fingers is too short so it's really hard for me to do smthing like 01:03 on my left hand, can't even reach that..
Btw, thank you for the video Jane ❤️
See those squiggly lines? those mean roll the chord. Reaching an octave is good enough. The larger chords we can roll or leap 😉
@@janepianotutorials what do you mean by leap
A cHoPiN fAn For a large chord that our hands cannot cover, play the bottom note and jump (leap) as fast as possible to play the rest of the chord.
Me pasa al reves. Lo puedo hacer pero no llego al tempo ni por el carajo Jaja
woow can you play this full speed?
Guess so... had fooled around with this etude decades ago. My piano playing is substandard! Hardly practiced.
Rachmaninoff Etude 39-1 please
Use my request video to get votes?
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Hi jane, can you do the Paderewski edition???
That was not on IMSLP when I made the tutorial. Is it now?
@@janepianotutorials yeah I found it on there I’m pretty sure
Try to follow the score then? With little time to spare, it makes more sense for me to make tutorials of pieces I have not done yet. Agree?
Ah! Nice tutorial! I use different fingerings though, although I don't know how it will impede my playing though
Can refer to various editions on IMSLP, and choose an editor whose fingering suits your hand structure. Trying one short passage should do. Use the ‘View’ option.
Hello Jane, I have a question. Why do you put the black line on the bottom of your videos? I didn’t notice it before but here you switched between old and new versions and I noticed it. I sometimes just watch your tutorials at two times speed jus tot enjoy the pieces a bit slower most of them are played so fast mostly Chopin and it makes them a bit hard to enjoy in my opinion.
To cover my legs. Used to get annoying comments, though flattering, about my legs 😏
@@janepianotutorials ah understandable. (Not the comments you covering your legs)
It doesn't happen as much, but just got one under my Beethoven Moonlight 3rd mvt Part 2. Please do _not_ say anything to the pervert.
@@janepianotutorials oh I won’t I get that they sometimes just think they are complimenting someone but it’s still very disrespectful!
Yes, let it be. Old guy just having fun.
I learnt this piece in under a month... but getting it to speed is taking forever, especially that part with the 4 and 3 jumps, and the 2 1 4 3 2 part
Practice just those parts. Force yourself to obey a metronome. Set it to your competent speed, then tick it up 1 or 2 bpm upon each repeat.
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I WANT LEARN CHOPIN POLONAISE OP.53 AFTER FINISH THIS SONG, WHICH IS MORE HARD?
Don’t know. Opinions differ.
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This is the slowest torrent I’ve ever seen, a slow torrent. Seems funny cause it means a fast stream of water
You can use speed apps. My tutorials are intended only for occasional reference, note checking, counting, fingering, etc. thus, the slower the better :)
waiting for Beethoven Sonata 109😍😘
Ooh, anyone else voted for your request? There’s another Beethoven sonata request ahead of you...don’t even remember which! I’d better look for it...
@@janepianotutorials thanks Master Jane u are a legend🤩😍
@@janepianotutorials that could be me probably, btw , thanks so much for the Bach Partita , I m still working on it though but u have finished it even a while ago😂
tiffany51793 legend? Oh no 🙉
tiffany51793 it was Beethoven op.10/2. Have to finish that. One request per year to give others a chance?
Just a check Jane isn't this grade 9 even in Henle it is 8/9
Trust Henle. Mine are guesstimates based on how difficult it was for me to sight-read while making the tutorial.
@@janepianotutorials yeah it's fine I ain't pin pointing . Even I used to feel looking at sheets tht it won't be tht hard:-))
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Thanks 😊
I have problem hitting that chord at 1:27
how old are you? 10?
Jane I’m 15
Jane My hands can only reach 9ths
Mine reach 9 too. Your fingers might grow longer.
Oh okay, I guess I’ll comeback to this piece when my fingers can comfortably play that chord lol
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