[TUTORIAL]F. Chopin - Etude C-minor Op.10 no.12 REVOLUTIONARY - "How to practice?" - Greg Niemczuk.
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Concert pianist describes and analizes the difficulties and practice strategies for F. Chopin's Etudes op. 10 and 25.
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I had done this piece years ago when I was very young but I stopped playing for a long time after that. Recent I have started practicing all my old pieces again and this is one of them. Your tutorial is so helpful to me. Thank you so much. If you were living here in the US, I would moved heaven and earth to take some lessons from you.
Thank you! As usual, your tutorials are a treasure for all who play those pieces. I really apreciate the valuable work you do for us!
I love how you keep teaching engaging. Makes me really happy to see such enthusiasm. 😊😊
Happy to see that! I think it's very important
Thank you so much sir!🙏🏻🌸
Thank you so much for your help in trying to play this marvelous etude. It is Sooooo Nice of you to take time explaining ! Thank you🙏🙏🙏
One of the best lessons i have seen.
Thank you so much
Thank you so much for your tips on this etude. 🎵
Brilliant!
Thanks Greg for such a detailed strategy. Taking notes. I first played this a couple of years ago, it was my first Etude and couldn't get it. I'm going to rework it using your suggestions methodically. Thank you for your generosity. ⭐⭐⭐
This is very helpful. Thank you so much.
Truly a magnificent teaching! Thank you so much.
Thank you so much!
Great video! This is helping immensely! I've been playing for a long while, but I plateaued years ago, coupled with life events that didn't allow me to practice for years, as well as some teachers whose behavior towards me made me not want to pursue my music degree. And it's only recently that I found my childhood passion for music again. I recently finished Chopin's op 64 no 2 in C# minor. And it feels great to finish a piece after such a long time.
Thank you!
Thank you so much. ❤
congratulations on closing your so generous project for all the hobby pianists over the world! thank you thousand and million times for this magnificent contribution! lovely greetings from berlin
Thank you!!!
There is still op.25 to do 😊
Wow, what a great tutorial about this beautiful etude. 🤩 Thank you very much Greg! 🙏 I am going to rewatch this video many times 👍.
Thanks Prinzo!
Can't wait for Op25. Thank you, Greg!!!
Great useful info - thanks
Świetne wytłumaczenie, bardzo mi pomogło ponieważ właśnie zaczynam uczyć się tej etiudy 🙏🎹
Cieszę się!
It was my first Chopin etude, almost 10 more years ago... and now I'm on a journey to master all Chopin etude. It's really helpful, thanks.
Wonderful! Good luck with that!
ありがとうございます。感謝です。❤❤❤
Thank you so much for sharing! I see some hope now, in learning to play this wonderful epic Chopin piece. You're an awesome teacher ! : )
Thanks!
Hi Greg! I hope everything is fine after Norway's tour. Happy to see you back on TH-cam. Greetings!
Yes it is! I’m just very busy with many things but I will start to upload the new content again!
Thank you so much, sir. This is very helpful!
Happy to hear that!
thanks, I'm trying to study this beautiful piece...
Hi Greg, I am revisiting this etude after years away to raise kids and teach. Your video has given me a fresh vision of how I will play this at this later point in my life. Thank you so much for taking the time to give us your practice techniques. You’ve given me some new ideas on how to approach this since I know it already. I’m so excited to rework this piece with the soul of a Nocturne. ❤
I'm happy to read this comment. Thank you!
This is a very good tutorial. I see two minutes a day, and just practice all the good exercises.
Great! Thanks!
Wow, such an incredible Video, thanks for your thoughts on this amazing Piece. I always thought it was a missed opportunity that this isent the polish national anthem.
Your teaching is very good, you explained it very clearly. I could now able to learn it more confidently. I wish you all the best in 2024.
Happy New Year to you too!
Thank you so much Greg for your valuable time and energy in creating this tutorial. There were some wonderful moments and quotes from you throughout, including when you played mechanically and said “It’s not music, It’s not Chopin. It’s simply ugly!”. I started to play this piece a very long time ago and gave up as I couldn’t get close to the speed nor did I manage to get past the first page. I was never taught how to tackle this piece, however I am going to approach this piece again as you have suggested by first mastering the left hand and memorising it, which I know will be a challenge for me personally. Thank you once again.
Good luck!! I hope you can make it!
@@gregniemczuk thank you ! I just finished practising my first 4 bars - still needs a bit of work. I may get there in 4-6 months time 😀
The best video of this Etude
Thanks Marco!
I look forward to the lesson the Ocean Etude Op 25, No 12? Thank you for all you do.
Me parece una forma de estudiar profunda. Asi quedará precioso. Soy pianista jubilado y estoy enseñando éste estudio a mi nieto. Felicidades por cómo lo haces. Desde ahora mismo vamos a estudiar con tu video. Gracias muchísimas gracias.
Gracias por su comentario!
Лайк не глядя!
happy to see you back, was missing you alot ^_^. I love short practice units alot as well. But most of the students DO NOT do it, so sad -_-
Yesz they do not! It's a pity. But we must keep encouraging them!
Thank you for your words. I've been tired after Norwegian tour and bisy with teaching and my University. I will try to upload more content again!
Ja das dachte ich, dass es eine anstrengende Tour war durch Norwegen. Ich habe mich an sämtlichen Video‘s, ganz besonders an Ihrem wundervollen Klavierspiel, sehr gefreut. Liebe Grüsse und ganz herzlichen Dank für all Ihre Arbeit. Hanna
This is the best Revolutionary tutorial that has ever been created..... Thx so much.
Thank you!!!!
I was a bit afraid that it's too long....
@@gregniemczuk No, it is very important to show how to practice left hand part by part. There is another pianist on TH-cam who does similar approaches but he has not done Revolutionary etude.
@@gregniemczuk I have never had a teacher who shows me like what showed in this video. All my teachers just expect me to know how to practice. It is very unreasonable. Ten years ago, I brought this etude to my teacher, he said impossible for me to do. He is a concert pianist, but has no teaching skills. He is just good in playing. That is why he cannot produce good students. After I quit from him, I found a good teacher. I started entering amateur piano competitions, my former teacher was speechless when I told him that I was able to advance to several finals.
@@rothschildianum bravo!!! Yes, I also not always had good teachers unfortunately.... that's why now it's my mission to help on the internet everyone who are searching this help!
Wowww super help. for next video, can you please focus the so we can see wich finger you play every note with? Thanks!
Hmmm ..... I'm mostly using those written in my edition (Ekier) but not always. I'm not sure if I'll be making another video about this etude. I have so many other projects waiting!
Very interesting. It is very encouraging, inspiring even, to see how hard you work on your pieces. Are there any specific Hanon exercises you would suggest, and do you stick to the same fingering in C♯ for those exercises?
BTW is F♯ an alternative Hanon key to C♯ (as there is more variety of stretches between black and white notes), or is it just unnecessarily awkward?
Yes, definitely the same fingering!
A valuable tutorial Greg. Your comments remind me much of my teacher. It’s so important to practice in the patterns. This Etude must be played precise. There’s no room for stodginess.
May I request some information as to how your recommend to pedal this Etude? It is often over pedaled and blurry.
Yea.....well, it all depends on the room in which you play and on the piano itself ... pedal with your ears, not with your feet
@@gregniemczuk makes sense!
Panie Grzegorzu. Z racji tego, że jest pan doświadczonym i wybitnym pianistą, chciałbym podsunąć pomysł na nowy film. Myślę, że bardzo dużo osób chciałoby zobaczyć porady dotyczące nauki dowolnego utworu. Chodzi mi o poradnik gdzie pokaże pan swoje sposoby jak nauczyć się utworu od zera, w jak najszybszy sposób (nie chodzi o konkretny utwór). Swoją drogą ten film jest bardzo ciekawy i pomocny, pozdrawiam :)
Dzień dobry. Dziękuję bardzo!!
Dobrze, chętnie zrobię coś takiego. Raczej w języku angielskim, gdyż jest to bardziej międzynarodowe. Na dwa takie firmy raczej nie będę miał energii i czasu. Serdecznie pozdrawiam
@@gregniemczuk oczywiście rozumiem, szukałem wszędzie takiego filmu i naprawdę ciężko jest znaleźć. Jeszcze raz serdecznie pozdrawiam, uwielbiam pańskie filmy 😊
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Greg, would you say that the tips you were telling us for the Revolutionary étude, learning LH alone (hands apart), memorized and up to tempo before hands together…do you think that applies to 10/3 and 10/4 as well? Thank you!
Yes Micki!
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więc jest nadzieja!! To jednak jest dla ludzi i można to ćwiczyć?! A ja myślałam, że to tylko kosmici mogą grać, bo przecież to wykracza poza zdolności zwykłych śmiertelników... to tempo.......
Zaczęłam grać tą etiudę jakiś tydzień temu. Znaczy tak wewnętrzne, w marzeniach to grałam ją juž dużo wcześniej, ale nigdy wcześniej nie przypuszczałam że się w końcu odważę i naprawdę usiądę do tego utworu, że zacznę. I stało się. No i zaraz to "czy kiedykolwiek zbliżę się chociaż na odległość wzroku do tego jakie to powinno być..?🥴". I obejrzałam ten film.. zatem jest nadzieja!!! Jest pomysł co z tym robić, jest nadzieja!!! Nie taka bardzo bliska, no nie bedzie to na wyciagniecie ręki. Ale jednak!! 😀😀😀😌
Brawo!!! Wierzę!!! Uda się!!!!!
Do you suggest to do the grouping excercise with metronome?
You can do it, changing tempos every few minutes
Bardzo uzyteczny instruktaż !!! Mialbym pare zapytań:
- Jak ma sie rzeczywistosc do podanego tempa - 160/cwiercnute ?? osobiscie maltretowalem etiudke pare razy w zyciu, 130 sama lewa dla mnie to juz slizgawka :D
- Podaje Pan rozne propozycje cwiczenia. Chcac rzetelnie przecwiczyc po fragmenciuku zajmie to duzo czasu.
Wiec ile powtorzen danym sposobem fragmentu spelnia juz zadanie ? 5, 12, .. 30 ?? ile czasu dziennie optymalnie cwiczy sie taka etiude ?
Dzieki i pozdrawiam
Dzień dobry. To wszystko są bardzo indywidualne kwestie.
Tempo Chopina jest moim zdaniem tempem, które być może on sobie sam śpiewał w głowie gdy miał zanotować puls metronomiczne, ale ono nie działa akustycznie podczas występów. Ta etiuda jest jak drzewo podczas burzy, tempo chwieje się co chwilę. Proszę nie grać jej z metronome NIGDY. Ilość powtórzeń zależy od stopnia zaawansowania. Generalnie polecam przeznaczać na etiudę ilość czasu, jaka jest możliwa, robić minimum 50 powtórzeń (sto jest idealnie). Zajmuje to trochę czasu ale nie trzeba podczas jednej sesji ćwiczeniowej pograć całej etiudy. Poćwiczenie dokładne jednej strony przez godzinę da dużo więcej! Serdecznie pozdrawiam
Groups that you train separately. Is it good to change these groups? I mean other tones in the group. Another three or another four tones?
Yes, you can do it of course
I'm an organist trying to understand piano thought...do you practice scales in the same way in groups??? Thanks in advance!!!
Yes!
Takie pytanie. Takt 25, lewa ręka, pierwsza czwórka - zaskoczyło mnie całkiem (żeby nie powiedzieć że wręcz zszokowało), że tam na drugiej nucie B ma być niejako 3ci palec! I patrzę w nuty, kurczę, tam też napisane 3 pod tym B. W życiu bym na to nie wpadła. Czy mogę to B (druga nuta z czwórki )zagrać po prostu 1szym? Wydaje się to być wtedy proste i intuicyjne. Potem dalej jak leci, mogą być te palce które tam zasugerowane lub już cały czas 3ci, który może się tego klawisza trzymać. Ale czemu miało by służyć takie skomplikowanie i wykręcanie, że po piątym palcu na pierwszej nucie gramy 3cim kiedy 1szy jest pod ręką i dalej wszystko pasuje. ? Zastanawia mnie to bardzo 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ja tam gram 2 palcem na B. Trzeci jest bez sensu!!! 1 palec też może być. Generalnie palcowanie napisane w nutach nie jest obowiązkowe. Każda reka jest inna i musimy sami dostosowywać palcowanie pod siebie. Więc POPIERAM swoją własną inwencję! Pozdrawiam serdecznie
@@gregniemczuk 😃😃😃😃 super, no to już mogę pracować dalej, no tak mi to nie dawało spokoju! 👍👍👍🙂
W poniedziałek gram to na dyplomie bo to jedna z niewielu które sie da na szybko ogarnac ;D
Powodzenia! Dobry, bezpieczny wybór
After how many years of learning do you recommend to start with this etude?
It's hard to say, at what age did you start? Everyone is individual and different so it's really hard to say......
@@gregniemczukI know It is complicated. I started at 9 (learned 5years). Then 3 years as adult when I was around 22. Then there was a big pause many years as I did not have piano. After 16 years I started again, I had tried to learn myself 2 years. Now I am learning 1 year with teacher. I am willing to play to the end of my life.
I think practicing ONLY the left hand in your session can be frustrating. I think the one needs to mix in something like 1/2 proportion. 20 mins left hand, 10 mins right, repeat. Very good tutorial in general though.
Thanks! Yes , of course it can be frustrating. But when you see the results that you feel satisfaction. Thanks for the comment!