Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk 8 2022 review | hot hatch tested on road and track | Chasing Cars
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- We test the new Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk 8 and see what this hot hatch is like to drive.
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The Volkswagen Golf GTI is viewed by many as the original and benchmark hot hatch. But is the new Mk 8 2022 Golf GTI still the best hot hatch you can buy? How does it compare to the i30 N and Focus ST? Is the new GTI seriously worth it given the price increases? How much does the GTI cost anyway? And are the GTI options necessary?
Should you consider the 2022 Golf GTI for your next sporty hatch? Or is it worth waiting for the Golf R Mk 8?
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Time codes:
0:00 - Golf GTI price and details
1:28 - Interior and tech
5:39 - Back seats
7:09 - Boot space
8:10 - Running costs
9:22 - Handling and driving dynamics
16:16 - Golf GTI on track
21:50 - Should you buy the Golf GTI Mk 8? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Golf GTI, i30 N, Focus ST, or something else?
i20 N
At this price, maybe BMW 128i
Civic Type R
JCW
At this price, you might as well get the 128ti
Great review (as always!) Tom.
I do love my new Mk8 GTI.
Tom sets the standard when it comes to cup holder gesturing 🥇
Nice review Tom.
Looking forward to your 2021 i30N review.
Great review again including the track
Brilliant review, thank you very much 😊
The one thing I'd have loved VW to add to the GTI was the Lexicon audio system that the Genesis models get. Would really make it stand out with that. Awesome review as always Tom.
nice one Tom, going the long way to do a review - 1000 km good way to get to know the car and know your comments ....a like by me...
Thanks! Felt like going in depth.
Excellent video mate! Where did you get your green jacket from?
Very nice review. It'll be interesting to see how this stacks up against the i30 n facelift.
Great review guys! 🙌
Thanks so much!
No manual, really ! Have owned 4 generations of GTI and manual is the sweetest way to enjoy it. Great reviewing as always Tom
Price rise is unbelievable. Cost cutting spoils the vehicle’s interior. But I suppose VW have to recoup those billions in fines somehow.
AUD is weakened severely against USD the last few years, have you considered that factor? GTI is still cheap in Australia. Seriously.
Great review; It's obviously a very competent car, but I'm not getting the upgrade FOMO I thought I would with my Mk7.5 GTI.
Pity no two door anymore.
Having any hot hatch is fun, they remind you that life is going well and you've made some good lifestyle decisions.
Loved the old two door. Not even made in Mk 8 form (or Mk 6 Polo anymore).
Think they realised the kind of person buying this more expensive version might be older so they're unlikely to sell many 3 doors. Though to be fair, there's tons of people in their 30s not very interested in kids.
Good one
The price of the new VW Golf GTI ~ from about 45K - 65K in 4 years ~ makes me wonder if VW are raising ICE prices to narrow the sticker shock to their EVs.
Because they will need to be selling EVs in bulk quicker than they will be able to cost-down. When the ID.4 arrives, it will seem sensibly priced. EDIT: Its also now competing with a Tesla Model 3. 5.6 seconds to 100. Better depreciation and 1/3 the running costs.
That red looks great. How is the paint quality for the new generation? Is the VW badge still easily nicked?
Why would anyone steal a vw badge?
@@Diddydudat They're thieves that sell them cheap. Usually drug users. The VW badge at the front is ridiculously easy to twist off. I've seen people attaching razor blades within the badge to give the thieves a little surprise.
Hey Tom, does the mk8's EA888 still have dual (direct and port) injection? I'm wondering if VW'e cost cutters got to it.
Mate, save some money get either 130 N DCT, or focus ST and save 10 grands straight.
Just to keep in mind servicing is also competitively expensive.
It's a shame the head up display doesn't come as standard at this price point. I'm also not a fan of the alloy wheel styling, another style at the 18 inch size would be good. Sounds like it drives really well though!
VW South Africa was planning on media launch last month but they have issues with chip shortages and stuff so now the darling of the moment is 128ti. Please also do 128ti because I know Australia and South Africa are short changed here as we are getting detuned GTI & 128ti with 180kw compared to European with full fat 195kw/400nm
I bought my base model manual Mk7 GTI in 2015 for $43k AUD drive away. Those days are gone. I can’t justify the price of the Mk8 GTI.
When I get my next car, I might take a look at something like a i30 N-line premium hatch. Manual with 150kw, DAB radio and heated / cooled seats. It’s all I really need as a daily drive at a much lower price than the new GTI.
I'd say the R-Line would be a better value option, looks great and has a really nice interior too. The GTI is on the pricey side but then it'll hold value quite well.
Great review Tom but now pretty much Mk 7 R money and no manual
Yes. But the Mk 8 R will be much more expensive. 235kW, though.
Great video mate, thoroughly enjoyed it. By the way, my grandma would like her spectacles back 🤣
I am not in the target audience for this, but I'd get a Mk 7.5 GTI: same engine, better haptics, better looks and less money.
No new Mk 7.5 GTI for sale, but a few tidy preowned examples when I had a look. High prices!
Picked up the last new Mk 7.5 left in Adelaide last week . Love it! Mk 8 looks sooo refined, has lost that “GTI look”
@@richardoliver9054 Nice, enjoy!
Who signed off, on those crap looking driving lights and alloy wheels?
Not a fan of the chequered flag?
They’re the fog lights down below..
The DRLs never occurred to me as offensive.
@@chasingcars Look like, they were supplied by Wish, copying Renault.
Yeah those rims are pretty foul. Look very 1996 supercar.
Honestly, those touch buttons on the wheel are close to a deal breaker.
Really don't like them.
I thought they’d be more annoying than they were. I’m picky and they were acceptable.
Should I get the i30N DCT, Octavia RS, WRX or this???
I knew buying my manual 40 years a couple years ago was going to be a solid investment.
Still the best GTI spec hands down
@@chasingcars yep it's been a great car ...the writing was well on the wall back then ,i think we could and can all see manufacturers are on a 'digitization' craze removing anything analogue.
Was considering this car but after seeing the engine specs and price, it really put me off. Have an i30 N DCT on order due late July early August. Better performance and bang for your buck
I bought my 2018 Golf GTI mk7.5 for 41K driveaway (dealer demo). I also remember the R was priced arnd 55K in 2018. This new pricing for Mk8 is not justified considering the engine is still the same but with a bit of more power nd torque. Also, all the touch buttons have taken away the classic interior charm of the GTi....😣😣
Waiting to see the prices here in South Africa, expecting it to destroy many wallets and have many of these without emblems in a few weeks. VW badges are stolen faster than you can say GTI here.
Ouch
for its price better go for 128ti
@@avuazahc1966 Hard to disagree. I've personally picked up the 120d.
Serious question. Do you think that the emissions scandal and the fines VW group had to pay is effecting the quality of their interiors and the like?
Is part of the touchscreen problems down to having to use our left hand to adjust settings?
It might be. Sometimes touchscreens are calibrated for the subtly incorrect taps made with a dominant finger
Congrats VW, you've got me looking at I30N's
Interesting that the i30 N isn’t that much cheaper. Okay, around $5k cheaper like-for-like, but it isn’t the huge bargain it once was.
@@chasingcars No, but it's still closer to 50k than the Golf is. And I'd argue that the overall package looks (on paper, anyway) to be a bit better. It's arguably better looking, sounds better, and has an entertainment system that won't have you wanting to murder it. At a time where there is stiffer competition from competitors, VW decided to cheap out on the overall package and raise prices. As a big VW fan (this would have been my third Golf if I'd gone with the Mk8) I'm not impressed.
@15:54
any idea where this road is with the trees hanging over guys? guessing somewhere around western sydney nsw
Yass/Goulburn district.
Ahh!! Gods country ofc!
Nice review Tom. But you have gone very easy on the GTI's atrocious touchscreen dashboard.
So Octavia VRS then, get more room, and save some money?
1st here wish it had a manual
Bring a special edition manual, VW!
Should at least be a no cost special order option
@@chasingcars in the UK u can buy this with a manual damn aus air quality
People in Australia are lucky .It starts at 77000 Aus dollar equivalent in Ireland.
I have a red, fully optioned 7.5 GTI and I see no reason to update to this one for a large amount of $$$. I have learned to be careful of where I take mine on 19" Brescia wheels with low profile tyres - smooth roads please.
Came in to this really unimpressed with this car, but damn the Golf has charm. Surprisingly, VW is barely making $500 profit on each of the Mk8 models.
what is your source for the profit margins on the mk8?
Autogefuhl my guys. Thomas has insider information on the Germans.
Price is insane, now imagine the price of the mk8 golf r…. How are they going to sell them.
Another great review. The car is too pricey. I would buy a model 3 SR+ which is cheaper , faster and RWD.
Damn seems a tad expensive for what you get. Took a mk7.5 R for a test drive last year and thought it was a great car, interior looks like it’s gotten worse.
For the price you could pick up the Audi SQ2 which although not the same class of car seems the better deal?
Those fog lights look lost in all that plastic, still can't get used to it.
I bought A250 4MATIC, 6.0 seconds to 100km/h. Beautiful interior.. AWD. The GTI used to be an affordable warm hatch, now its pushing way too high, why would anyone pay this?
As an MY15 GTI Performance owner from new, with 100,000 km trouble free kms , VW are making it a less than compelling case to upgrade.
Low $30,000s here in the US. $44,000 for the Golf R.
Not sure what’s up there but that car sells for 33k in the states. This sounds like an INSANE markup. I wouldn’t blame the car for that and would review it as compared to cars in that range, but priced to criminal levels.
The lux pack looks like a must have and at $65k they won’t sell squillions like the mk7 and 7.5.
Yep. $64k DA in the spec you see here. Not a cheap car.
@@chasingcars Are VW playing COVID supply pricing games or do you think this would have been the pricing if COVID never happened?
This price would most likely have been locked in before COVID and COVID pricing set in. Volkswagen have substantial financial pressure behind the scenes - EV development, autonomy development, emissions penalties… costs are going up, so are prices.
@@chasingcars Crazy. I got my second hand 7.5 R for $41k. $65k for a GTI makes me wince about the price of the upcoming mk8 R pricing.
@@chasingcars VW won't be around in 10 years at this rate. They are incumbent technology with billions in stranded assets. EVs, Tesla and China are about to do to to Germany what Japan & Korea did to Detroit. Their unions and company management are squabbling about protecting jobs, while Rome burns. Ghost town incoming. Ask your kids. Who is Nokia? Interesting to me the GTI has just strayed into Tesla 3 price range. No contest.
6 weeks in and I’m LOVING mine 😍😍
Glad to hear it.
Awesome
I feel the GTI has lost its way. It used to be a regular Golf with a bit more mumbo for a sprint through the hills on the weekend (if I recall, the Mk 5 had 150kw). The pricing of this doesn't justify that aspiration. It's still sedate enough for regular driving but it seems specced up for people who want to take it on a track on the weekend. I'd prefer a car priced in the mid 40K AUD that goes back to its roots. Perhaps that's where the Polo GTI makes more sense to me.
Spot on. The Polo GTI is the new GTI IMO. Nimble, fun, fast and affordable. Also. Remember ICE vehicles are about to be obsolete. I would not invest 65K on an ICE vehicle in this climate. A Tesla 3 is better, faster in this price range.
Mk 7.5 GTI TCR any day…
That was a good spec.
I'm always perplexed by the continued adoration of Golfs by car writers/journalists especially in the last 2-3 years when IMO it just does not stand up to the competition on cost. I got a quote for an optioned BMW128ti for 62k driveaway (includes HUD, electric seats, sunroof, paint) and I can't imagine paying that amount for a Goft GTI which may have similar specs, but cannot match the BMW on quality (not to mention the less than well executed entertainment system and controls in the Golf). VW seem to be taking advantage of that Golf fanbase and IMO overcharging them.
If BMW allowed media tests of the 128ti in Australia, I might be able to comment. But they aren’t as yet. My neighbour has one. I’ll see if I can get a drive.
The 128ti is supposed to be a GTI rival so similar price is correct and from (European) tests i've seen the GTI outperforms it. Better quality ? in a late model BMW ?? That is very subjective.
@@chasingcars why are BMW shy about letting the media scrutinise the 128ti? Silly unless they want kill their own market segment.
I’m not sure, but there haven’t been any local reviews.
I think you are on the money there with the comparison with the BMW. Would love to see a local review though. VW may have overreached with the price.
Put in my reservation fee for the car today. I was struggling if I wanted Mazda 6 GT SP or the Golf GTI. I still have this struggle. Partially because I know Mazda will be able to give me 5K off the original price, while the Golf GTI only offer a 1K bargaining, half-price servicing, and 1-year rego is fairly standard. I know these 2 cars are different, but what would you reckon? I still think the Mazda6 wagon has better potential in modifying and better exterior design. If anyone sees this comment, please comment and help me out. It's not too late to pull the pin yet.
P.S. I don't have a family, but to me, Mazda 6 is appealing solely because it may be good for some road trips/ long journeys/ less likely to be stolen/and has a more luxurious interior but looks subtle ane low-key.
However, love how GTI sounds and handles. I have never had the chance to test drive Mazda 6 because the local dealer doesn't have this car (across the state!)
So, which did you end up with? Hope the GTI 😊.
Save yourself a fortune and get a real hot hatch.. Fiesta ST💪🏽
There’s no way I’d pay $65K for the Mk8 GTI. The Focus ST seems like a bargain now.
Almost 60 grand. Do these people think money grows on trees? Nope not 60 grand for a Golf, even if it’s a GTI. I can get a lot better value cars for 60 K. But nice review and good choice of car to review, just shows how greedy companies are getting. Prices keep going up but wages do not or only marginally, at least for most.
Let’s see if the market pays what they’re asking.
5:35
I’m sorry. $65k drive away for a blooming GTI? Volkswagen’s having a laugh right?
Sadly this is not fake news
@@chasingcars it’s an economic crisis i tells you.
@@chasingcars It’s not only Volkswagen raising prices. Just about every new model these days has a substantial price increase. Look at what Honda are going to charge for their reduced line-up!
@@chasingcars I just bought a base spec one for $52k with my corporate pricing and existing relationship with dealer. A GTI isn’t supposed to have leather and a sunroof. I feel the car is worth just about what I paid for it and certainly feels sharper than the 7.5. The 7.5 is starting to look old and tired inside as you would expect from a design that is almost ten years old. I am on my seventh GTI spanning the last twenty years so it would have been rude not buy a MK8. The biggest issue facing buyers is not price but rather supply constraints. Not many coming here this year.
The new R is an animal and will be $70k plus ($65k ish with corporate pricing I suspect). Not many cars at that price that will live with it on the performance front.
Mk7.5 is the best
Me thinks VW Australia are having a laugh with pricing per say... then if a five year service package for the hero gti is $2450 all other golf's are $2100.... All in the Golf MK 8 launch in Australia is a bit ho hum.. i'd give it 3 stars.. i do drive a VW
If someone gave me one of these I’d love it but buying one with my own real money with that absurd asking price, ah nope.
Can't see any reason to buy this over a Yaris GR as they are basically same price, the Yaris GR is more fun and has more personality with a full diff 4wd system, unless you regularly need a family car
Space, practicality of five doors, refinement, quiet cabin, driving position, automatic gearbox, wireless CarPlay, power seat adjustment… I love the GR Yaris and would have one in a heartbeat, but let’s not pretend there aren’t reasons someone would prefer the very different package a GTI offers while still serving up driving fun
@@chasingcars agreed all covered by family car it's much better if you have a family and want refinement over excitement
58k Jesus christ
My money is on a Hyundai i30N.
$64k d/a for the spec Tom drove 😂
Yes! Our Lord would probably opt for the less costly donkey for his 'road to Damascus'
@@timmarks8941 Give me a Tesla Model 3 any day. Similar price.
So I pose this question. Is the mark 8 GTi a big leap forward from the mark 7.5 and if not why would someone buy it given the additional price tag?
It is a marginal step forward, but I suppose my key point is that the package was already very good - the GTI didn’t need to be reinvented. As for the price: the market will pay what it will pay. You can no longer buy a brand new Mk 7.5 GTI in Australia. They’re all gone. So if you want a new Golf GTI, it’s Mk 8 or nothing, isn’t it.
Adjustable armrest yes but still poor access coffee cups just put one up to the right of wheel. Comments about rear badge location are not relevant ( to me). Fuel consumption figures are never accurate in the real world. But yet the GTI is a great car....
(1) False; you can move the armrest backward to access both cup holders. The front cup holder is always accessible no matter what. (2) Please provide justification. (3) These were as-tested figures, so your comment is beside the point.
Stephen Fogarty I like driving with the arm rest out and can't easily access the coffee!. Now on my third golf and a family Tiguan allspace no need to swear
$65K?
VW has lost the plot. My current daily a MY18 Golf GTI Original not yet 3 years old in excellent condition with a better looking body and as a manual, much more fun. Bought brand new for $30,000 LESS than a Mk8 drive away. That includes the extra $$$ for a 5 year warranty as it was 3 years standard at that time. I'm keeping the Original until I go electric.
The lengths that VW took for the aesthetics and plastic to save a few bucks is staggering. Complete fail. MK 7.5 still the best.
Why are the all offering cars with such a mix of good and bad materials and cutting certain things previously but not on the updated car !!!
A backward step imo compared to the previous generation. I’ll stick with my MK7 GTI PP which looks better & still has tactile buttons and switches! ;-)
Doesn't matter how good this car is, at this price point it's going to flop.
I suppose we will know if that’s true soon.
Highly doubt that. The GTI always gets stick and then sells massively.
So expensive the golf r 7.5 was nearly the same price as this
Yeah. But the Mk 8 R will be much more.
@@chasingcars the golf mark 8.r will be a large step up from the previous model the gti is not.
However if they charge 80000 drive away the car will be fighting premium competition I'm not sure if Australian's regard Volkswagen as a premium product.
Those rims are disgusting on such a good looking sporty hatchback.
I polled about 200 people on Instagram. 40% liked the wheels, 60% disliked.
The wheels are the best part
@@chasingcars I’m in the 60% on this one….
@@AnonymousBloke so am I.
Jeepers, the R is gonna go over $70,000 d/away.
Oh, definitely. Possibly more like 80k DA
@@chasingcars
That’s Audi S3 territory 🤔
Rims 🤐
Nice reveiw the build quality is very poor
I am not crazy of the looks of this gen. In my opinion GTI lost it’s roots
Agreed!!! glad I got my 2020 Mk 7.5 it’s possibly the last of it’s legacy
Those wheels are very sexy. The rest of it isn’t.
Too expensive. Like all the hatches now. The new ST4 price is a joke as well. Save a few extra $ and get me a Stinger
As good as GTIs and Golf Rs are, as a bit of a jack of all trades but master of none, there is something about them that makes them...dull
I see your point. But I think it’s about whether you take satisfaction in such competence across the board or whether you look for achievement in one particular area.
I’m sure it’s the exterior styling that makes them dull
I would only recommend this golf to a grandma. Honestly. But only if it was pre-owned because it's not worth the price tag for this plastic heathen of a car.
$65k drive away?
WTF?
$55k maybe….
Maybe means no
This generation of GTI's is definitely a downgrade in a lot of ways. Degenerating.
Please dont buy this and ruin the outlook of our streets. Buy sth with a design.
Boring design, cheap interior, too expensive, VW is losing it....no thanks.
aka VVU: Volkswagen Very Ugly
There is no other words but this car is ugly