Joining 2 Snatch Straps, Snatch Strap recovery tips
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- Joining 2 Snatch Straps, Snatch Strap recovery tips. In this video we show you how to join 2 straps together the safe way without using any shackles & the Landcruiser recovers the Jeep. You can join snatch straps with extension straps however its best to join two snatch straps instead. This video is part of a mini series "How to use recovery gear"
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The shot of the jeep coming out and then getting a view of the belly couldn't have worked out any better. haha love your videos as always
thank god i watched this before i combined two recovery straps. your trick saved my straps
great tip about the mag in between the snatch straps
(the green bags are dampers in case of breakage to prevent missiles)
Cheers Rolly
Hi Ronny great vid very informative i have small earthmoving equipment and use snatch straps instead of tow chains and don't even use a run up it's amazing what you can recover without putting stress on anything
Exactly the video to explain what was happening between the straps. Thanks
Great simple instructions that I am sure will need one day. Great work as many over do the video’s
Good video , special for new 4x4 drivers, well done mate!
Great tips. Thanks Ronny
All your videos are great!
Well I learned something today about that magazine trick. Thanks!
Thanks m8 for making this amazing videos.
Excellent demo, thanks!
You own one of the nicest 79 series I have seen
Cheers mate :)
Great tip. Thank you.
@Jacob Rossi, thanks for the feedback mate. I have had both the MTZ's & the BFG's both were pretty good and had no probs with them, IMO BFG KM2's are slightly better than the Mickey T's in noise and wearing but I found that the MTZ's were more sticky the the road. Hope that helps...
Good information. Thank you!
Great vid, better than reading about how is done, mor graphical and easy to understand, thanks.
enketamin No probs mate, thanks for the feedback...
ooooh THATS how you do it! PITA to unravel them without any spacer in between. noted!
Quality video. Thanks for the instructions.
Thanks for the feedback Johnny
Good information here , thank you...
Great vids mate u deserve way more subs.
Thanks mate, only been at it with full attention to my channel for 1 year so still early days ;)
the idea with the Magazin is very cool
good job enjoyed
Now I can make use of that picture magazine in my 4WD
A good knot to know for this would also be the Becket Bend or Sheet bend, it can not only be used for situations where the knot is under immense load and must be easily undone, but can also be used to safely join two ropes of unequal diameter. however, when it comes to webbing the knot must be dressed properly. in any case this will work fine. but you'll definitely need the magazine or bottle to have any luck getting it undone after shock loading it.
I knew it, them bogans are really good with this "I go inside you, you go inside me" business!
We had a local killed by one of those straps last week. One of the attachment points broke. Good to see you fellows using several dampeners. Almost always both vehicles will be carrying a snatch and so should also have TWO dampeners each (one is near useless). Why not use all of them on the strap. Also, that join - use a overcoat or a tarpaulin instead of the piece of paper.
This is why you should also open the hood while winching; it acts like a shield. It probably wouldn't work so well if being snatched, though LOL.
Gracias por tus consejos Ronny aquí usamos un periódico o un trozo de madera, saludos desde Costa Rica g÷)
Mauricio Navarro Gómez No probs mate, yeah the news paper might even be better or easier to get out :)
Great idea. Wonder if it's strong enough to just do the standard pass through interlock. That might be asking too much.
Perfect timing with this video, thanks. My 4x4 club is having a first winter run and I was wandering what would be the proper way to connect two recovery straps together should we need an extension.
This brings me to a question, I know that it can snow in Australia's Snowy Mountains ( hence the name of the mountain rage) Does anybody go 4X4'ing to experience snow driving conditions.
Yes some do but that's only on the eastern side of Australia and the snowy season is very short if at all sometimes. Here in Western Australia there is no snow at all...
Great work as usual Ronny.
Can I join a snatch strap to my winch rope to give me extension when winching and can I join a snatch strap to my winch rope which is extended when snatching.
You’ve probably covered it somewhere I guess
Sweet video Ronny thanks, your dads a legend mate. “ I’m ready to roll “ please high five him for me.
Ronny, what are your thoughts of joining with a soft shackle ?
is he Petta Solberg???
some good points given there thanks
where can I get one of them t shirts
nice tip! BTW for those that maybe forgot the magazine you can try a hammer on the knot before a knife. Lay out the knot on a sturdy surface and beat the hell out of it. Like tenderizing a steak it will loosen the fibers of your line and make it much easier to deal with.
By beating on the knot with a hammer, you will severely stress and weaken the fabric in BOTH straps, making them unsafe to use again. If you can't get it loosened up by hand, you're better off -- and safer -- to sacrifice one of the straps by cutting it off.
What about joining with a soft shackle?
Hi Ronny, what brand shackles do you use/recommend?
It's a great way of connecting two strap for sure, But there is a simpler way without having to run from both ends. At th-cam.com/video/qV9lr6hBXJg/w-d-xo.htmlm4s - Put red eye over the yellow eye and then thread the yellow eyed strap through the red eye.
I use your method, but I'd say that magazine is almost not thick enough. I use one that's as thick as my wrist. Had a thin one fail one time and was very hard to get apart. I roll and tape two and keep them in my kit.
How would you attach one of those to a small car with no hook? Both the strap and the shackle becomes useless in that situation
what was the smaller strap he used to connect the snatch strap to the vehicle being pulled
Cool enjoy the video question if a strap has 20% stretch and you join two of them together do you then have 40% stretch ?
It would have the same percentage of stretch, but the length of stretch has doubled. In other words, if a single 10ft strap has 20% stretch, it would equate to 2ft of stretch. Joining two together is the same as a single 20ft strap with 20% stretch, which equates to 4ft of stretch.
Interesting demonstration for connecting straps. For me there is a much simpler technique yet it produces the same figure 8 knot connecting both straps:
1. Put loop from strap one through loop of strap two.
2. Put the other end of strap two into loop one that was put through strap two loop.
3. Pull lines together, dress the knot.
4. Add a paper, magazine or the like to the knot.
Hello Ronny
Can you use a sand-filled plastic bottle (e.g., Cola) instead of the newspaper and then drain the sand to release the joint? This will make the bottle easy to squeeze and the loops are free again.
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Thomas Klemm
I guess you could but I wouldn't fill it to the top otherwise it will become a missile if something went wrong
I think the plastic bottle would fail before the vehicle became unstuck, unless you have access to some very thick plastic bottles with incredibly strong lid threads.
KruiserIV I was about to say the same thing. Most plastic bottles, full or not, will not withstand the pressure.
Bottles will cut in the ropes when they break, use something soft. A shoe or flip flop works also.
You really can use almost anything. I used a flip flop the other day and it worked lol
Who buys magazines these days? :p I always used newspaper, which I had for starting fires. Never had an issue. And for the brake, I just used an towel type dressing gown. It doubled as my ground mat if I had to get down in the mud etc.
How about synthetic shackle between ropes. Can you use a tow strap for extension.
Any shackle has the potential to become a projectile if one of the straps breaks. That's why you need to join the straps as shown, and use something soft in the joins - like the magazine, or a rolled up floor mat, or even a rolled up towel. Never use anything solid in the middle of a line of straps. Yes, technically you can use a tow strap for extension, but it won't stretch like a snatch strap, so all you gain is length, but not additional snatching power. And never ever try to snatch a vehicle using only a tow strap. Something will most certainly break.
Great tip, just wondering what is the location of this vid?
TenaciousD intro is from Julimar SF and the recovery was filmed at a location near Gnagara pines which requires a DEC permit to gain access (which we have).
Good one Ronny, just a question. Could you use a piece of thick pvc or similar? so it doesnt crush like the mag and should slide out easily.
Yes, or even a good piece of wood.
I think the mag or mat like he used is a better choice than wood or PVC because if a strap breaks they are lighter and softer and wouldn't cause as much damage if they were to hit someone or something. The idea is to avoid using things that can become missiles. JMHO
PVC would shatter pretty easily. And a piece of wood (or anything else hard enough to not shatter) would be a potential projectile. The important thing to remember is to NEVER use something solid in the middle of a line of straps.
Looks like the Jeep has open diffs, does it have lockers? 3:36 make sure you don't use your Hustler lol.
Have you tried putting one eyelet through the other then using lets say a magazine as a stopper instead of running the whole length through the eyelet
Yeah I think we have a few times, in the past (not be me however) this method on the video will be better for the strap in load stressing
does the jeep have gear select options? I thought in another video you said the jeep was an automatic, so was wondering how he's in 2nd gear low? Just wondering what to do in an automatic in this situation and I thought the jeep was auto.
Otherwise great video.
+Joe Chitussi He has the option to select 1st - 2nd - 3rd - or drive. selection 2nd it will automatically shift from 1st to 2nd but wont go any higher if that makes sense.
Ah ok. Didn't know if it was like a dsg sequential.
a piece of tree branch about 30mm in diameter works great
I was wondering if there were good substitutes for the magazine. There are nearly always branches nearby.
who makes the small strap attached to both the shackles on the jeep?
+SoCal Hillbilly not actually sure of the brand, bought it ages ago but we are due for a new one so when I work it out I will do my best to remember and let you know
Go to Amazon and type in "tree saver strap" in the search box. There are several choices, both in length and strength. I have 6 foot / 20,000 lb and 10 foot / 30,000 lb straps that I use for attaching snatch blocks to trees for pulling ropes. The strongest one I've seen on Amazon is a 10 foot / 43,000 lb strap. There are also some D-Ring shackles on there that are rated for 68,000 lbs (16,000 lb WLL) for attaching the straps to the vehicle.
(Addendum: There is a 6 foot strap from Mile Marker that is rated for 50,000 lbs, but the description on Amazon doesn't show the rating. I had to go to Mile Marker's website to find it.)
You sound like Korg
hows the camera? after it went under the jeep .
Yeah all good mate if was a gopro in-cased in the tough housing. Was meant to be hit ;)
Can I use a soft shackles to joint two recovery straps? 🪢
Yes, it alleviates having to use a rolled up magazine to get them apart as well. They make all the difference in the world in recovery, I wouldn't want to be without a few in my kit. Just make sure your soft shackle is rated for what you're intending to use it for and you should have no problem at all.
Ok what was the green bag things on the straps for?
New Generation watch this video for the reasons behind it ;)
Snatch Strap Tutorial: th-cam.com/video/KcUDgmSMhWk/w-d-xo.html
I recently heard from a 4WD friend that it is unsafe to use a newspaper rolled up. Why would this be the case?
Was wondering about that too; it seems it would also become a projectile. IDK.
Newsprint is pretty weak material, so if the newspaper was torn in half by the force of the jerk, there could be enough kinetic force applied to the knot itself (because of the two loops suddenly jerking together) to break one of the straps. A magazine is usually made of much heavier paper, and less likely to be torn apart from the force.
Why would you join snatch straps together? Is it just to increase the length?
Yes, to increase the length. There has been more than a few times we have used 3-4 all joined together. But joining two is pretty common for us when we are out there.
+Ronny Dahl (4 Wheeling in W.A.) What is the benefit of increasing length? To have more stretch and energy to yank out the stuck car?
Matt V My guess is that if you don't have a snatch strap that is long enough, but have multiple shorter ones. Or perhaps they simply don't make snatch straps longer than a certain length.
+Matt V (Camel51) in some situations where you can't get close to the vehicle that is stuck you might need to put 2 together. Or just to get farther from the stuck vehicle where you can get better grip to pull the vehicle out.
Sir,
I have been told that it is sometimes unwise to spin tires whilst being recovered. I was told this results in digging deeper and creating more work for the recovery vehicle. Is mud typically the medium you don't want to spin in? Does it matter? Greatly appreciate your feedback and opinion. Your vid on lockers was most informative.
Cheers :hi:
+Ferm3 You need to start moving so a bit of spinning is going to happen. You want to help the person pulling you out.
If you did it with the D ring wouldn't it just fall to the ground because the rope doesn't hold energy
Reid Taylor i think its like a sling shot at that point, if only one strap breaks. but i wonder if you use those line dampner things he hangs on the strap would help.
@@brianjones1569 First, you should always use the line dampeners. They will slow down the recoil of a snapped strap. Yes, they would help, but a shackle (or any other solid object, like a block of wood, as someone else suggested) is heavy enough that -- as you say -- it would be like a sling shot, and the weight of the object would be enough to overpower the line dampeners.
@ike fun "nobody around here understand physics"
One person is a far cry from "nobody", and just because they don't know how a snatch strap works doesn't mean they don't understand physics.
Oh, No! Not the 4WD Action mag..... :-)
Mag good idea
You kangaroos got stuck going downhill in sand. Lmfao.
Apparently you've never driven in sand like that. It's pretty easy to get stuck.
I gotta disagree with this whole video. The way you joined those straps is no better than a water knot. The best way you could have joined the straps is the bow shackle, IF you want to retain 100% of the strap rating. Best way would be a figure 8 knot.
Did you not even watch the video? Or are you trying to troll?
You never want to use a bow shackle as it could kill someone if the strap breaks, this very thing has killed dozens of people.
And a figure 8 knot would never come apart after hard snatching. I've had to cut my rope after a hard fall while rock climbing with the figure 8. Now imagine 20x that stress being put on a rope, you'd have no chance in hell.
This videos method is by far the best option I've seen.
For something like that the correct way would be using a kinetic rope, not tow straps. The straps y'all are using are for towing a vehicle not jerking on one. 🤦🏼♂️
Snatch straps work the same as kinetic ropes. The extension strap (the green one in the video) doesnt stretch but the brown one does - like a kinetic rope.
You can purchase either tow straps (static) or snatch/recovery straps (kinetic). Make sure you know what you're buying and what you're using out in the field.
I've never heard them called snatch straps. I figured it was just a name the Aussie's used.
Bobby S Most places in the States I hear them called recovery straps, but a lot of the guys who do the Hummer snow runs around here do call them snatch straps. I’ve even heard them called jerk straps. You probably know what type you have in your vehicle, but if you’re ever unsure which kind of strap it is, assume it’s a static tow strap. You can always use a kinetic strap as a tow strap, but if you assume that it’s a snatch strap, and you jerk on what turns out to be a static tow strap, something is definitely going to break. If you’re lucky, it’ll just be the strap. Which makes it critical to always use the line dampeners (those green bags draped over the straps) whenever you are pulling a vehicle. And if you don’t have any real line dampeners, you can use a heavy jacket or blanket, and you should always have at least two line dampeners, even on a short strap or rope.
(Yeah, I’m sure you already knew most of that, but I figure it never hurts to say it again for anyone who doesn’t know.)
@@garrisonaw oh yeah for sure. I know growing up we never used any kind of dampener when winching or pulling and we also used regular cheap tow straps vs kinetic ones. I've learned a lot over the yes lol but you always learn something new. Thanks! Plus a lot of that you said could help tons of others. I appreciate it.