Honestly I'd love it Tom took it even further and went back to some of the earlier maps he did and kind of re-tried them without looking at the original footage. And then try to beat his own original time. Like a race against himself. To see if he actually got any better as his experience with the game grew. Not sure if anyone in the yogscast has played this game. Cause it'd kind of be cool to see Tom 'race' against another player to clear the map as soon as possible. Though obviously he'd have to switch up the editing style a bit for that. But then again. Maybe it's not a problem that no one else plays this game? After all he seemed to have no issue at all bringing other Yogs into TABS to play against him even with him being the only one who knew what any of the units did XD
@@biekemeees6397 it also depends on the map some use more changes then others to make it harder, like using rocks some maps you can only use around creeper while other maps you can use around nullified buildings and set them free
Oh hey, I literally just played this map last night! It'll be cool ta see how Tom approaches it. *EDIT:* After seeing the Alternate Endings, an LPAC map that focuses around Forbs & Mesh would be really awesome.
This was a great episode. I really enjoyed the no boost run, but really I feel like I actually got to keep my cake and eat when the alternate endings started.
This has been one of the most SATISFYING CW4 in a long while. Especially at the part where you needed that last egg for an explosive ending. And topped off if the alts.
About your new best friend: I just played this map, boosted just and only stash (after it was done skimmers got about 5 boosts), assisted it with eggs and rocks and did the map in just over 32 min. I am as shocked as you are, but stash for once is useful :D
Still loving all the creeper world content 😁 Others have said it but yes please to more alternate endings Tom! Lots of fun to see it play out, even a few twists and surprises
Did a quick stopwatch check and it looks like the stash was triggering about every second, so about 16000 creep/s. Kind of surprising it managed to beat out the emitter which was only doing 4000/s fully maxed out.
Daily reminder that Tom is an amazing person and to thank him for all he has done/will do - Day 1266 Oh now this is fantastic for a first map :D, I hope they continue to make Well, I love the Blorps XD Yey, Tom is right, we do love the Alt Timeline games :D He he XD that Airsack Photobomb
The stash might stop upgrades to avoid it becoming useless. I remember one of the maps Tom's done before had a stash immediately turn all of its creep into AC due to some kind of integer wraparound. Apparently creep and AC are the same thing in the code, one is just a negative integer. I think anyway, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass.
The reason it wraps around is because each cell only uses one integer for both creep and anti-creep. That saves space and combines the creep and anti-creep cancellation and the creep flowing into one simple calculation.
Creeper has a maximum height of 2147 if you cause it to go past that then the number overflows into the negative which is how anticreep is represented. Adding 1 creep to 2147 creep suddenly makes 2148 anticreep haha
It's honestly really cool how much abuse this game can take without any frame drops. 200 spores, no problem. Knuckracker did a really good job with the engine on this one.
I do love how everything that can be taken out of context and sounds really weird Josh just turns off the game sound and all other sounds except for Tom speaking, e.g. 10:36 - 10:39
Hey, if you are going to use alot of buildings/meshe, go to settings, options and turn off smooth creeper, it should show the right depth, but the flood in the mech will look spikes.
the stash is INCREDIBLE, but ONLY on the condition that it is used well. never invest in a stash unless you're sure it can make a feedback loop like that or you're somehow otherwise limited on creep gen and need more in the stash area.
TIL: Every time I've seen [LPAC] at the beginning of a map name, it hasn't been the 'tag' for the map author but the map type in acronym form. It took Tom literally expanding the acronym in front of my face for me to catch on... I can't even... I've seriously been going "Oh, another map from LPAC, that guy's prolific!" smh
Since there is no rebuild... Couldn't you just sneak like 3 eggs around the HQ and destroy the surrounding ring of towers to shut off the entire map for good?
The stash are good creep gens and you don't even have to invest much. Just imagine having a bank account that doubles your money every year, while you still generate income from your emitters.
Hmm... I wonder how the game would play if you only boosted the stash and until you had it maxed, did nothing else to spread the creep before the stash got activated... The game speed on my end is powerpoint-slide-like, so getting things done takes a lot longer than the game records...
Yeah the Stash has a cap at 16000, found that out on another one of these no exit maps and once you hit that 16000 limit you then start buffing it's cooldown rate meaning you can make it pump out creep in a rapid pace.
I did see it and your comment too :). It was awesome to see Tom's unique no-boost approach to the level and I never knew that Stashes could be this good :D
I really do enjoy the alternate endings. It's a really cool experiment on how quickly stacking only one type of unit can go.
Same here. It's helped give me a bunch of ideas for playing some of these maps and taking wacky approaches to the challenges.
Yeah, I like these alternate ending.
Same.
Honestly I'd love it Tom took it even further and went back to some of the earlier maps he did and kind of re-tried them without looking at the original footage. And then try to beat his own original time. Like a race against himself. To see if he actually got any better as his experience with the game grew.
Not sure if anyone in the yogscast has played this game. Cause it'd kind of be cool to see Tom 'race' against another player to clear the map as soon as possible. Though obviously he'd have to switch up the editing style a bit for that.
But then again. Maybe it's not a problem that no one else plays this game? After all he seemed to have no issue at all bringing other Yogs into TABS to play against him even with him being the only one who knew what any of the units did XD
@@biekemeees6397 it also depends on the map some use more changes then others to make it harder, like using rocks some maps you can only use around creeper while other maps you can use around nullified buildings and set them free
This was a good one, not boosting made you play more thoughtful which combined nicely with the no rebuild
There's a map called thousand needles which pretty much demands that the stash is buffed to overwhelm the spam of mortars and absorbing ground
Oh hey, I literally just played this map last night! It'll be cool ta see how Tom approaches it.
*EDIT:* After seeing the Alternate Endings, an LPAC map that focuses around Forbs & Mesh would be really awesome.
The alternative endings were a great touch to the video. Also thanks to Josh for putting up all the times at the very end.
I can only imagine the headcanon that goes on during these battles. Tom unanimously deserves the title "Destroyer of Worlds".
I love falling asleep listening to Tom play creeper world
I thought I was the only one 😂😂😂
Nothing like the soothing dulcet tones of Tom to close out a day!
Me every night
I really do love the alternate endings! It's a super cool concept and adds a lot of diversity in the climax of the maps. Reaallly great!
Loving the time rewind and showing different ways of completing the map
The stash this episode was like when Tom figured out the best way to use air sacs
Creeper world Sunday. I shall sip tea and relax into the week. Nothing bad can happen now.
Tom FINALLY realizing the stash isn't completely useless in the right situation 🎉
You should have done a combined arms boost at the end where you boosted everything you can the same amount of times. And see how long that takes
This was a great episode. I really enjoyed the no boost run, but really I feel like I actually got to keep my cake and eat when the alternate endings started.
I’m so glad you did a stash boost, I think they are so underrated honestly
I agree 60 is a bold strat to wait for, but you realizing you have half that isn't too unusual, so it could be usable!
Oh my, a creeper world vid. Glorious
The alternate endings are spectacular.
I love the alternate endings, same as the last video, big spore fan, fill the skies!
This has been one of the most SATISFYING CW4 in a long while. Especially at the part where you needed that last egg for an explosive ending. And topped off if the alts.
Thank you for trying the stash strat :)
Honestly I didn't expect it to be so slow, but impressive amount of creep as expected.
stash gets bonus points from me from sheer inevitability
About your new best friend: I just played this map, boosted just and only stash (after it was done skimmers got about 5 boosts), assisted it with eggs and rocks and did the map in just over 32 min. I am as shocked as you are, but stash for once is useful :D
Still loving all the creeper world content 😁
Others have said it but yes please to more alternate endings Tom! Lots of fun to see it play out, even a few twists and surprises
I usually boost the Stashes up to 5,000 or 10,000 depending on the map, if you get mesh connected to them they fill up really quick as well
Loving the alternate endings! Great content as always.
Did a quick stopwatch check and it looks like the stash was triggering about every second, so about 16000 creep/s. Kind of surprising it managed to beat out the emitter which was only doing 4000/s fully maxed out.
Daily reminder that Tom is an amazing person and to thank him for all he has done/will do - Day 1266
Oh now this is fantastic for a first map :D, I hope they continue to make
Well, I love the Blorps XD
Yey, Tom is right, we do love the Alt Timeline games :D
He he XD that Airsack Photobomb
Ever since they added the buffs to the stash in LPAC maps, I've been using it as a strat. It's insanely powerful.
Very much enjoying the replays to check out the alternative tactics
The stash might stop upgrades to avoid it becoming useless. I remember one of the maps Tom's done before had a stash immediately turn all of its creep into AC due to some kind of integer wraparound. Apparently creep and AC are the same thing in the code, one is just a negative integer.
I think anyway, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass.
I suspect that the creep can only reach a certain height and if it gets too high and is outside of the world box, it gets converted into AC.
I remember Tom turning an AC emitter into a standard one but not the other way around.
The reason it wraps around is because each cell only uses one integer for both creep and anti-creep. That saves space and combines the creep and anti-creep cancellation and the creep flowing into one simple calculation.
Creeper has a maximum height of 2147 if you cause it to go past that then the number overflows into the negative which is how anticreep is represented. Adding 1 creep to 2147 creep suddenly makes 2148 anticreep haha
It's honestly really cool how much abuse this game can take without any frame drops. 200 spores, no problem. Knuckracker did a really good job with the engine on this one.
Air sacs are definitely the most satisfying for me, the stash was a welcomed surprise tho
i think that the skimmers stun duration stacks, so when a ton of skimmers land on one target they stun it for a really, really long time
Need a graphic showing all of the alternate times at the end. Great video!
I do love how everything that can be taken out of context and sounds really weird Josh just turns off the game sound and all other sounds except for Tom speaking, e.g. 10:36 - 10:39
Those subtle audio edits are always fantastic.
MORE CREEPER WORLD! LETS GOOOOOO!!!!
The alternate endings are amazing!
Hey, if you are going to use alot of buildings/meshe, go to settings, options and turn off smooth creeper, it should show the right depth, but the flood in the mech will look spikes.
wish the stash boosts alternated
had no idea it had cooldown reduction
emitter wins are just so satisfying to watch, imo.
BLAMO! CREEPY TOM IS BACK!
love creeper world vids
the stash is INCREDIBLE, but ONLY on the condition that it is used well. never invest in a stash unless you're sure it can make a feedback loop like that or you're somehow otherwise limited on creep gen and need more in the stash area.
Really love the alternate endings.
I think the Spores are the most majestic
Next time, no rocks, and no placeable eggs!!
stash is always great, i usually boost them until the cooldown is about 250
the stash upgrades to 16k and then the reset time reduses
TIL: Every time I've seen [LPAC] at the beginning of a map name, it hasn't been the 'tag' for the map author but the map type in acronym form.
It took Tom literally expanding the acronym in front of my face for me to catch on... I can't even...
I've seriously been going "Oh, another map from LPAC, that guy's prolific!" smh
Since there is no rebuild... Couldn't you just sneak like 3 eggs around the HQ and destroy the surrounding ring of towers to shut off the entire map for good?
You could but that wouldn’t be very fun would it
You'd have to get rid of the shields first but yeah, I think maps with No Rebuild are really easy
I like creeper world.
11:15
Placing rocks & eggs behind enemy lines... Does seem a little bit cheaty... 🤔 😳
The stash are good creep gens and you don't even have to invest much. Just imagine having a bank account that doubles your money every year, while you still generate income from your emitters.
Still loving the videos Tom
i wonder if there will be a PAC map whwre you could lose after a while, seems like you always win
I'm not giving up on asking to try out Perimeter Geometry of War.
NEVER STOP CREEPER WORLDS VIDEOS PLEASE
lol i played this map yesterday
Same here! Haha.
Hmm... I wonder how the game would play if you only boosted the stash and until you had it maxed, did nothing else to spread the creep before the stash got activated... The game speed on my end is powerpoint-slide-like, so getting things done takes a lot longer than the game records...
sick nasty
Yeah!!!
*Bam!*
First View and Comment, nice, perks of living in Aus :)
edit: wait nvm
how long you think it take for tom to forget the stash does that?🤔
Yeah the Stash has a cap at 16000, found that out on another one of these no exit maps and once you hit that 16000 limit you then start buffing it's cooldown rate meaning you can make it pump out creep in a rapid pace.
Yayy stashes
When will you make some creeper world 4 vid where you don't play as creeper
Awesome job for a first map! @NO_EXIT (Hopefully he sees Tom's video!)
I did see it and your comment too :). It was awesome to see Tom's unique no-boost approach to the level and I never knew that Stashes could be this good :D