Red, I'm curious why so much octane? That's a good horsepower comparison test right there. Octane is a fuels resistance to detonation. Higher octane burns slower. High compression engines have higher cylinder pressures which can pre-ignite 87 octane gas. Hence, high compression engines needing higher octane....to prevent pre-ignition. On a low compression engine like this, 87 is more than sufficient. Higher octane in low compression engines can actually REDUCE power! Try it on the dyno and see. 87 to 89 octane non-ethanol Rec fuel is all you should need for them to ripsnot! Very excited about this dyno...can't wait to see the extra content, and see how your builds respond :D
Red beards keeping it real I also find this very exciting a major breakthrough for Christmas I hope you do a live sometime with this Dino running thank you to everybody that made this happen
Awesome!!!! Endless possibilities!!! Put a plexiglass shield on that pedestal and wear your safety glasses for those exploding turbo and nitrous projects! 👍👍👍
Cant wait to see this series. It is amazing what a difference in power you feel from these small engines with simple modifications. I am interested to see just how much difference parts make because just doing a stage one kit on my minibike felt like a big difference.
Very excited for you. Dyno's are so important to engine builds in fact guys like Kaase don't use head flow numbers anymore just the dyno because they saw in some heads increased flow actually made less horsepower.
Super stoked to see some small engine dyno videos!! I have been curious to see this for a long time!! I've really wanted to build a small engine for reliable horsepower. You should do a sort of mini "Engine Masters" series showing the different things that add the most and least to the power of the engines!
When you own a engine dyno, I'd assume you dyno everything you own lol. Think right now he's showing the 212 cause its most popular. In time I think we'll see numbers for tiltisons and v twins etc.
This is fantastic news! We all wish we could do this too but its great to have a more factual approach to engine building. Lots of people have secrets lol
Outstanding presentation!.Thanks for the shoutout. When’s the first pull going to happen, You know we’re all anxious. In addition to all the dyno features, there’s going to be the wonderful sound of a hard working engine lol
I'm so happy that you guys got an awesome new toy. I look forward to seeing what kind of power you guys can make. Keep up the good work and keep believing. March on brothers, march on.
Awesome start to the new video series! This is the type of series I've been hoping for for youars. Ge to the bottom of what works, what doesnt, and where to put your money!!
That's Awesome,and so are the suppliers.:For the love of the family and all your fans,please build a plexiglass shield for around the motor and chain area,and put real tempered glass outside it for mounting cameras,and viewing of course,as it'll be easier to clean.Less liability as the engine's surrounded by a box.The top is open for different engine sizes.
Tempered glass on both sides of the plexi will keep it from fogging,and scratching.The plexi at 3/4"-1" should keep a rod,or block part from hitting anyone if stuff happened.U supports welded on the dyno outside will let you set the box on.Hinged on the backside's better too.
Thanks for taking the bullet i mean we all wanted to see something like this to really see engine mods and what they realistically make. Be interesting to really see how much some these force induction predators actually make
Idea Invitaional Get youtubers to build something, say a tillitson 212 etc and have a shoot out Get Cars and cameras etc over and have a dyno shootout!
That is really awesome! One suggestion, get a blower or real good fan to blow on the engines, heat can kill horsepower and skew consistent readings. Excited to see the results of power adders!
And thanks for mentioning the inflated numbers and how you change the flywheel to keep the numbers as close to real world as possible, quite a few builders out there who inflate their numbers and we don’t need another one.
That is to high octane for an 8 to 1 engine. Octane slowes fuel burn to stop detonation in engines with higher compression. It causes HP loss in low compression engines. Put 87 octane in it and see if you get closer to the 6.5 rating.
I wouldn't do the governor delete dyno pull without a billet rod, that's a substantial and extended load on the engine. Just like doing a top speed run. But congrats brother, you've definitely come a long way.
My real world experiment showed an oil change with Amsoil lost horse power in my 4.7 Ram Dakota. I did a base line with an external accelerometer of 2, 1/8 mile runs before an oil change. After changing w/Amsoil I was slower by 2 tenths of the 2 runs after. Not woth the extra expense. IMO. Nice Dyno. Happy holidays!
Inertia dyno's tend to be what packages easy, and ends up being what sells by brands like DynoJet, Mustang, DynaPack, and other followers here with a scaled down version on a roller cart. At the end of the day, I guess if you get it dialed in right, and you take into account your contrast from a baseline reading to your results, that's all that matters but a water-brake dyno (torque by straingauge) that could package just as easily, without the calibrations or methods need with an inertia dyno (rate of momentum increase over time).
This dyno is going to make some great content. I can’t wait to see the differences with every stage of the build. Do you expect any lose from the clutch?
Nice! It'll be really interesting to see the true performance changes with the mods. I'm sure you're interested in checking what you have in the herd already. You've done some impressive builds, so documenting them may be pretty enlightening.
I live and love Amsoil all I put in my mini bike BT200X Coleman with a 208cc 7hp engine at 10.21ft/lbs of torque it’s a great little bike…. Amsoil all the way baby .!!!!!
That’s a nice setup!! Dude it’s gonna be so awesome to see legit numbers and not just what they “advertise” on the HP Gains from certain parts…also do a series where “I heard” upgrades make more horsepower lol
I'm tickled shitless about your Dyno. You guys drive the type of machines that I like to mess around with and you do the kind of modifications to the kinds of engines that I want to know the results of. I'm super excited. Will you guys be taking any of your completed engines off of the rigs and putting them on the dyno?
Love it redbeard!!! My next goal is also to by one of these dynos. I build pulling tractors and our main engine is the 301cc predator, gx 270 honda and now 20ci and 30ci open. Would love to talk with you sometime
I’m an Amsoil fan I’m from NW Pa near Warren where it was originally refined, but I’m sold on the performance gains I’ve received with Schaeffer’s Oil. Check it out sometime they make some amazing products and lubricants and IS the OLDEST American Oil Company .
Hat damn . So does this mean you'll do a video of the predator 212 stage 1, 2 ,and 3 to show us really world numbers . Thanks for the work you put into em .
Wow a subscriber other than me from Clovis. Small world. And after some quick sleuthing, lives less than a mile away. Time for a fun friendly prank. Maybe a red Santa beard on his mailbox.
Love the new dyno never knew they made them would it be worth while to maybe put some type of return spring on the throttle lever so it doesn't drift on you while braking
Red, I'm curious why so much octane? That's a good horsepower comparison test right there. Octane is a fuels resistance to detonation. Higher octane burns slower. High compression engines have higher cylinder pressures which can pre-ignite 87 octane gas. Hence, high compression engines needing higher octane....to prevent pre-ignition. On a low compression engine like this, 87 is more than sufficient. Higher octane in low compression engines can actually REDUCE power! Try it on the dyno and see. 87 to 89 octane non-ethanol Rec fuel is all you should need for them to ripsnot! Very excited about this dyno...can't wait to see the extra content, and see how your builds respond :D
Now I'm stoked ..... this is gonna be the game changer ! Congratulations red beard crew , I couldn't be more happier for yall .
Professor Red Beard teaches us all of what he knows. Thanks, Buddy.
Warm and wonderful comment-you are teaching us something too
It feels like red beards got a new toy stay tuned
Red beards keeping it real I also find this very exciting a major breakthrough for Christmas I hope you do a live sometime with this Dino running thank you to everybody that made this happen
Thank you for supporting the channel!
this is awsome, I cant wait to see the difference in H.P. and FT. lbs. between the stock hemi 212 and stock non hemi 212.
Awesome!!!!
Endless possibilities!!!
Put a plexiglass shield on that pedestal and wear your safety glasses for those exploding turbo and nitrous projects!
👍👍👍
I'm very excited for you and for the upcoming series, may God continue to bless RBG!
Cool never realized you could get a small engine dyno like this . Thanks you for sharing and thanks for the video my man
This is what all the small engine channels have needed for a long time, hell yes.
I love this dyno and the black and white graph. RPM and TOUG can I also get a line for air fuel measurment?
Cant wait to see this series. It is amazing what a difference in power you feel from these small engines with simple modifications. I am interested to see just how much difference parts make because just doing a stage one kit on my minibike felt like a big difference.
Very excited for you. Dyno's are so important to engine builds in fact guys like Kaase don't use head flow numbers anymore just the dyno because they saw in some heads increased flow actually made less horsepower.
Man I can't wait to this dyno in action on the performance parts.
Hey ... thanks for your commitment to getting the numbers right!
Super stoked to see some small engine dyno videos!! I have been curious to see this for a long time!! I've really wanted to build a small engine for reliable horsepower. You should do a sort of mini "Engine Masters" series showing the different things that add the most and least to the power of the engines!
I would love to see a dollars to horse power video in a 212. Also like a 3 engine stock comparison. 212, ghost 212, and 224 predator engines.
Excellent comment dollars to horsepower good one
I will do that! I am making a list of everyone's ideas.
@@RedBeardsGarage red beard is on a roll now you can't stop him
Easy, multiple of the cheapest 212 = greatest $ per HP
When you own a engine dyno, I'd assume you dyno everything you own lol. Think right now he's showing the 212 cause its most popular. In time I think we'll see numbers for tiltisons and v twins etc.
I can't wait to start seeing the big 420 and 440 builds running on this. I've always wondered if the numbers were realistic.
It'll be nice to have real data to work with! Can't wait!
This is fantastic news! We all wish we could do this too but its great to have a more factual approach to engine building. Lots of people have secrets lol
Big thanks to Greg for making this happen!
Outstanding presentation!.Thanks for the shoutout. When’s the first pull going to happen, You know we’re all anxious. In addition to all the dyno features, there’s going to be the wonderful sound of a hard working engine lol
Great work Mark, outstanding product.
Thanks, Steve
Awesome! Can't wait for the "Road to HP" videos.
I'm so happy that you guys got an awesome new toy. I look forward to seeing what kind of power you guys can make. Keep up the good work and keep believing. March on brothers, march on.
Awesome start to the new video series! This is the type of series I've been hoping for for youars. Ge to the bottom of what works, what doesnt, and where to put your money!!
That's Awesome,and so are the suppliers.:For the love of the family and all your fans,please build a plexiglass shield for around the motor and chain area,and put real tempered glass outside it for mounting cameras,and viewing of course,as it'll be easier to clean.Less liability as the engine's surrounded by a box.The top is open for different engine sizes.
Tempered glass on both sides of the plexi will keep it from fogging,and scratching.The plexi at 3/4"-1" should keep a rod,or block part from hitting anyone if stuff happened.U supports welded on the dyno outside will let you set the box on.Hinged on the backside's better too.
Good content. No more "my 30hp 212" BS. Proving grounds here
Cool setup that will give some valuable information.
Awesome tool 🔧. Congratulations 👏.. can't wait for the road to horsepower video's! .
Good ole DID chains I use to work there back in the day based in Portland TN
Saweet Tooth Gravybones RB 😳 Movin on Up ! ☮️
What is the engine you want to see dynoed the most?!?! Comment below!
Supercharged 670
670 no blower
670 no blower
Cars and Cameras need one these dynos for their turboed methanol drag cart ,,, or maybe a collab with them
That's a really simple little Dyno. Impressive. Make sure to get them diesels on there!
This adds a whole new dimension to the channel it's wild how interesting things are gonna get.
Thanks for taking the bullet i mean we all wanted to see something like this to really see engine mods and what they realistically make. Be interesting to really see how much some these force induction predators actually make
This is awesome we are all waiting
Do some turbo, supercharger, and nitrous mods and dyno them.
i cant wait to see where the series goes, and just how much mods add to horsepower and torque over stock, 'grats on the acquisition
Idea
Invitaional
Get youtubers to build something, say a tillitson 212 etc and have a shoot out
Get Cars and cameras etc over and have a dyno shootout!
That is really awesome! One suggestion, get a blower or real good fan to blow on the engines, heat can kill horsepower and skew consistent readings. Excited to see the results of power adders!
👍Man that's so cool for you guys ,fits right into the growth of your shop 🙂 💯
gawd i cant wait to get that 999 Duromax on there & start upgrading the airflow
Your going to finally show what hp were getting other than word of mouth, nice!
Finally been watching the channel for a long time can't wait to see what y'all run next
Holy smokes!!! Let's go RBG!!!
Can't wait to see what the supercharged 670 makes
I got to get on building an engine plate for it!
Cool stuff guys from cruzermans inventions 😁👍🎉🌟
Definitely bumps up your channel...we all love seeing the builds but now with real hp # ...can't wait 2 see the old 670 spit out some #
I'm happy for ya bud. Merry Christmas
This is great! I bet it will tweak the interest of a lot of people.
I believe this is amazing and HUGE for the channel growth!! Great job and nice score RBG!!!
And thanks for mentioning the inflated numbers and how you change the flywheel to keep the numbers as close to real world as possible, quite a few builders out there who inflate their numbers and we don’t need another one.
That is to high octane for an 8 to 1 engine. Octane slowes fuel burn to stop detonation in engines with higher compression. It causes HP loss in low compression engines.
Put 87 octane in it and see if you get closer to the 6.5 rating.
Very cool RB. Excited to see the future vids
That is sweet! You might want to add a blast shield on there. Small engines can do some damage, too, when they make an unscheduled rapid disassembly!
I wouldn't do the governor delete dyno pull without a billet rod, that's a substantial and extended load on the engine. Just like doing a top speed run. But congrats brother, you've definitely come a long way.
awesome looking forward to future vids
What an AWESOME shop tool!
My real world experiment showed an oil change with Amsoil lost horse power in my 4.7 Ram Dakota. I did a base line with an external accelerometer of 2, 1/8 mile runs before an oil change. After changing w/Amsoil I was slower by 2 tenths of the 2 runs after. Not woth the extra expense. IMO. Nice Dyno. Happy holidays!
You should use 87 octane for these baseline tests. It will make more power because the fuel is easier to ignite.
Inertia dyno's tend to be what packages easy, and ends up being what sells by brands like DynoJet, Mustang, DynaPack, and other followers here with a scaled down version on a roller cart.
At the end of the day, I guess if you get it dialed in right, and you take into account your contrast from a baseline reading to your results, that's all that matters but a water-brake dyno (torque by straingauge) that could package just as easily, without the calibrations or methods need with an inertia dyno (rate of momentum increase over time).
The guy who builds these dumps is based out of a small town near where I grew up very nice guy I’ve talked to him before
This dyno is going to make some great content. I can’t wait to see the differences with every stage of the build. Do you expect any lose from the clutch?
I would say it's better to run it through a clutch because that's how they really get run
Nice! It'll be really interesting to see the true performance changes with the mods. I'm sure you're interested in checking what you have in the herd already. You've done some impressive builds, so documenting them may be pretty enlightening.
I live and love Amsoil all I put in my mini bike BT200X Coleman with a 208cc 7hp engine at 10.21ft/lbs of torque it’s a great little bike…. Amsoil all the way baby .!!!!!
Oh that 208cc 7hp DuroMax engine I want to put a billet rod and piston in it ???
70mm bore 54mm stroke…
That’s a nice setup!! Dude it’s gonna be so awesome to see legit numbers and not just what they “advertise” on the HP Gains from certain parts…also do a series where “I heard” upgrades make more horsepower lol
Man you guys doing a great job keep pushing
Dyno the diesel man!
I will do that. Didn't even think of that. I need to make a clutch that comes in at 600rpm to really test it.
Love your videos still to this day ! Your doing it 🎉
Finally someone gets a dyno to prove numbers vs estimating
I have a feeling that estimations will be way off lol
Very cool. You might want to make up a blast shield incase there is a rapid unscheduled disassembly event.
Very nice and informative....how about a quick view on how the dynamic is connected to the motor....Clutch or some other drive connection
Would like to see some out of the box numbers on the HF ghost
I'm tickled shitless about your Dyno. You guys drive the type of machines that I like to mess around with and you do the kind of modifications to the kinds of engines that I want to know the results of. I'm super excited. Will you guys be taking any of your completed engines off of the rigs and putting them on the dyno?
Love it redbeard!!! My next goal is also to by one of these dynos. I build pulling tractors and our main engine is the 301cc predator, gx 270 honda and now 20ci and 30ci open. Would love to talk with you sometime
THIS IS HUGE!!
Want to see the your big mini bike motor on the dyno
That will be coming soon!
Run a search on Amazon and look for a bike chain idler pulley. That will take out all that chain flop and slack.
I’m an Amsoil fan I’m from NW Pa near Warren where it was originally refined, but I’m sold on the performance gains I’ve received with Schaeffer’s Oil. Check it out sometime they make some amazing products and lubricants and IS the OLDEST American Oil Company .
looks like this may be an interesting channel.will have to keep it in mind.
Dang! That's so awesome!
Can you show the head temp
Gauge set up ect. Would like to see if that’s a good universal head temp set up😊
Yes we will make another video once I have fully figured it all out!
Tennessee boys 🤘
Hat damn . So does this mean you'll do a video of the predator 212 stage 1, 2 ,and 3 to show us really world numbers . Thanks for the work you put into em .
yea sweet new content😎😜
Wow a subscriber other than me from Clovis. Small world. And after some quick sleuthing, lives less than a mile away. Time for a fun friendly prank. Maybe a red Santa beard on his mailbox.
Hi there neighbor. Hit me up when you get a chance, Mark
@@markyoung9964 Up in Sacramento right now for a family thing, but when I get back I will!
fkn sweet..!!! just in time for Christmas
Nice setup!
Definitely need to test the six sigma nitrous kit.
Might not be a bad idea to fab a type of chain guard, just in case one decides to bust a link
So next level bro!
Love it brother
Love the new dyno never knew they made them would it be worth while to maybe put some type of return spring on the throttle lever so it doesn't drift on you while braking
I actually did after this video.
You Da Man RB 👍
Have you ever dyno tested e 85 vs 87 or 91 fuels ? Like your channel. Appreciate what you do. Or any fuel that ads horsepower? Thanks
No I haven’t but can try to do a fuel video soon.
@ That would be great. Thank you, we will be watching.
I wanna see if the tillotson really does make 10hp outta the box.
Definitely want to see a ghost vs a stock and modded 212 medley
Great!
Awesome but where do you sit
Very cool.
See if propane makes a difference too!