Tisas 1911A1 US Army Review

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  • @markchoate9021
    @markchoate9021 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I got one of these a couple of weeks ago. I have several 1911's (new ones, originals, etc.) so I took them all to the range to play. The Tisas ate all the ammo that I threw at it with no problems. Also, I tried all of the other mags (new and originals) with no hitches. Not only that, I disassembled the WWII originals that I have and was able to fit the slide onto the Tisas. THAT's how close to the originals this is! As you said, no slop or rattle. Finally, I did see a video couple days ago and a fella had run 3,000 rounds through his. It still ran and looked good. Yes, there were some wear marks but really looked good.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for the info! That's awesome that the parts interchangeability is there. Good to know it's in spec and aftermarket or original parts will work.

    • @societyisboring
      @societyisboring 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ria and tisas make the best m1911s today. They all are under 1k a d if you get gi models from both they are less than 500 depending on when and where you buy it. I own ria runs all ammo thrown at it only had problems when trying 2 pro mags I got for free

  • @daleeasternbrat816
    @daleeasternbrat816 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I bought one of these to replace an original 1918 Colt as my truck gun/coach Pistol. A friend of mine insisted I do so because of the value and family history involved. My great uncle brought it back from France after the first World War.
    The original 1911 ate every kind of ammo I ever fed it and always hit what I aim at. It is an extremely reliable pistol. More reliable than some expensive custom 1911s I own.
    The Tisas equals the reliability and accuracy of my original Colt.
    I would still use the old 1911 as a truck gun except for it's extraordinary value. The Tisas has my full confidence.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Good to know it is a solid replica! I'd hang on to that Colt like my life depended on it if I were you. Awesome piece of history

    • @CL-ty6wp
      @CL-ty6wp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would a pistol be in the truck and not on your waist?

    • @daleeasternbrat816
      @daleeasternbrat816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CL-ty6wp I have a few different different carry guns, including a 1911, a Browning and a Glock. The coach Pistol stays in the glove compartment. I actually don't need it but I just got used to having one there. An extra 1911hanging around is not a bad thing.

    • @keithhagler502
      @keithhagler502 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@daleeasternbrat816 My EDC is a Colt WWI remake, it's my favorite, but I'm gonna get one of these Tisas's in 9mm, unless I can find a true Browning High-power, which they quit making. Need a coach pistol so I can save the finish on my Colt. I just can't grasp carrying or even owning a modern, and to me, ugly as sin with blocky sights that cover the target, plasticy pistol. I wear a fedora at times as well, so maybe it's just me.

    • @daleeasternbrat816
      @daleeasternbrat816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@keithhagler502 That Colt 1911 remake is a gun that I have seen in reviews and pictures. I have never handled one but if it functions anything like my original then you have no trouble with it.
      The Tisas 1911 A1 only failed to function with a magazine that has never functioned well in any pistol I've tried it in. I'm spoiled. I absolutely expect a 1911 to function every time. Bad magazines or bad ammo being the exception.

  • @garyhardison9265
    @garyhardison9265 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Been shooting 1911s for over 25 years, competition and fun, bought this 1911 as a first time gunsmithing project to work on and using the firearms actual parts, a few stones, and tools got the original trigger to 3.5 lbs no issues, very reliable and accurate, fired around 500 rounds through it at range using various loads/ brands.. no feeding issues. Ordering a barrel bushing to fit and a white dot stake in front sight, will widen out rear sight to accommodate front sight and I expect great things. Own some high end 1911s and a few Springfield's/ Colts that I've put alot of rounds through but this one is begging for more rounds at the range. If your want a first gun to learn gunsmithing, this is it, forged frame and slide, heavy like my older Springfield's, take a fine stone do some trigger work, no need to replace any parts, and if you want those tight groups at 20 plus yards you can drop in a barrel bushing. Up to you whether to put some paint on the original front sight or just stake in a front sight, all you need. This gun is a tack driver and with $400 investment in gun and $50 or $100 invested in sights/ barrel bushing, its as accurate and reliable as many guns 2-3 times your investment. In the future will fit the slide/ rail frame with the Brownells kit but this gun is a solid tribute

    • @jugo1944
      @jugo1944 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's also been my experience that cheap browning action guns are totally adequate

    • @Wildwestwrangler
      @Wildwestwrangler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Got mine for 300. It's in my nightstand with 5 mags. Love those 230gr gold dots!!!

  • @BonnieKay13
    @BonnieKay13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    To add; The Tisas A1 Army has a hammer-forged frame, barrel and slide, this is NOT a cast gun, it's the same quality as any Colt, Remington or Singer. Price is up, $430 now.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point. That's a major benefit

    • @tylerayers8531
      @tylerayers8531 ปีที่แล้ว

      Picked up mine at the local gun shop today for 402$

    • @keithhagler502
      @keithhagler502 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still $329 here, waiting on new shipment. Hopefully today. Probably $400 by the time walk out the door with it.

  • @michaelallsup1
    @michaelallsup1 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have a couple of these I bought almost 3 years ago. I carry one every day, they are a great gun. The one I carry I have over 2000 rds through it and it is still tight and accurate.

    • @johnp9402
      @johnp9402 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I gotta say your way more badass than me if you can edc one of these.

  • @blueduck9409
    @blueduck9409 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I started training and been shooting the M1911A1 longer than you have been breathing air. I never had any bite ever, probably 5,000 rounds, possibly more. They use to train us to fire 2 shots at a time , or double tap. A little bright paint or glow in the dark paint on the front sight helps a bunch. The M1911A1 is like an unbroke horse. Dont show it any fear, and you will master it.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My hammer bite definitely comes from my grip style. With very slight modification, it runs painlessly. When were you issued one? I'm always looking for info from those who used it officially! Thanks for the info!

    • @jacobivy2854
      @jacobivy2854 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s the problem. You don’t shoot a lot. “Probably 5,000 rounds” since “before [I] was breathing air” is an astonishingly low volume of fire. I wouldn’t even consider 5,000 rounds per year to be a truly significant amount of practice, much less that much over 3 decades or so.

    • @johnp9402
      @johnp9402 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It could be training or maybe it's your small bony female sized hands 😂

    • @larry648
      @larry648 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I put some of the wife’s red nail polish on my sight. 😆

    • @Wildwestwrangler
      @Wildwestwrangler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jacobivy2854true. For years I used any where from 1k to 1500rds a week!!! But.... At the time I was single and made decent money!!!

  • @furball9965
    @furball9965 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    thank you for showing the original 1911. i just yesterday put the money down on my first 1911 i have been wanting one for years

  • @gregary100
    @gregary100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good video... shows actually what the gun can do ... Turkish gun manufacturing is certainly come in to it’s own ... value for money .. big manufactures ... should take note ... watch out for complacency... it’s a buyer ‘s market .... 👍

  • @christophermead9800
    @christophermead9800 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The pistol is cerakoted to mimic parkerizing. The mags are actually parkerized. Nice pistol 👍🏻 I just picked one up for $420. The new production models come with double diamond checkered wood grips

    • @bryanrabel5081
      @bryanrabel5081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have this pistol online at Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore for $329

    • @christophermead9800
      @christophermead9800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bryanrabel5081 I bought mine on Midway

    • @bryanrabel5081
      @bryanrabel5081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christophermead9800 oh cool I like Midway USA as well!

    • @korazjian5251
      @korazjian5251 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fin feather fur in my area has them for 319.99 w/ 2 - 8rd checkmate mags

    • @michaelmatthews2759
      @michaelmatthews2759 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an older one that's actually parkerized, shame if they changed that

  • @TheRealZJE313
    @TheRealZJE313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone do a comparison Tisas GI model 1911 vs. Taurus G2C&G3.AND G4 same price

  • @bryanrabel5081
    @bryanrabel5081 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I only got one 8 round magazine with mine. My Remington 1911 interchanges really well. Pretty much any ammo has been ok. Good video. Very fair and simple. I don't mean to be critical but as an old guy the only issue I had with your video was letting your magazines drop. At the range you're not rushing so take care of your equipment. I know you are reviewing the gun.

    • @peteloomis8456
      @peteloomis8456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same with me only 1 MEC Gar mag and the manual and a cleaning brush but a cardboard box that says Tisas on it but that was 2 years ago. I got the Tisas A-1 tanker all black with the black grips and it's been reliable and no hammer bite shooting 2 handed and I've got big hands . So far it's digested every different type of ammo through it no problem. Like he says though the sights are small and hard to see so I took some white paint and painted the front sight about 3 notches down using a tooth pick and my machinist magnifying glasses so I could see the details of those notches in the front sight better and let the first coat dry for about a hour then added a second and let that dry and used some clear nail polish over that to add more durability to the testers model paint so it doesn't rub off when pulling the gun in and out of the holster all the time . Looking to find a competent gun smith to upgrade the sights on it I think because my eyes aren't as sharp up close as they used to be but I can still see good far away. The last time at the local range that's close to home it's kind of a combo range where you have 4 different back stops to hang targets on starting at 25 ,50,75 &100 yds when sitting under the pavilion at the 3 benches they have and I was able to hit a old stove they had sitting out at the 100 yard mark with it using Winchester 230 grain ball ammo with it while some guy and his son were watching from behind up on the hill . They were going to shoot bow by the bow and arrow range up on the hill on the other side and were just watching for a bit while talking to them when I was leaving . For closer up shooting I built a portable pistol stand that I copied from my conceal carry instructor after I asked him for the dimensions of it that folds up into a old folding chair case so if nobody else is shooting the days I go to the range I set that up at 10 & 20 yards out and shoot from the bench standing . It's a crude shooting range but it's free and not a whole lot of people go shooting their plus it's less than a mile from my house so I use it as often as I can . It's actually a old sportsman's club and every Tuesdays and Sundays during the season they have trapp leagues shooting . Nice clubhouse with a kitchen bar and furniture to sit and relax or BS with others plus lots of different animal mounts from wildlife that's been taken in the area and thought about joining as a lifetime member but the fees went up from 100.00 to 500.00 which to me is kind of high for the amount of time I would spend doing stuff for them plus I belong to a car club that actually seems more active during the warm season until winter so I think I will just use the range for practice instead.

  • @agustinequihua936
    @agustinequihua936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and shooting brother,I have a question you think a 12 pound recoil spring is to lite on my ria 1911 45, tank you take care and stay safe.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not sure as to the exact poundage, but I have owned an officer model that destroyed a factory spring and barrel linkage in less than 500 rounds. Officer length (3.5") seems to need the most maintenance. I would lean toward a heavier spring in shorter barreled 45. As heavy as will retain reliability anyway. Thanks!

    • @agustinequihua936
      @agustinequihua936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@triplefshooting mine have failures with a 16 pound spring, is a full size 1911 I guess I tried a 14 pound and see what happens tank you.

  • @michaelhodges8312
    @michaelhodges8312 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Got one last month. Thoroughly impressed, and I’m real careful about purchasing firearms. Love the A1 setup with the improved larger cutout ejection port.

  • @edgarcamacho9520
    @edgarcamacho9520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anyone would like and prefer a very affordable , very reliable nothin fancy , combat ready pistol…. Go for a TISAS you can’t go wrong. It’s one of the AK 47 of the 1911 world. Thanks !

  • @recoveringnewyorker2243
    @recoveringnewyorker2243 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The reason it is so inexpensive is the Turkish lira has taken a dump on world money markets. Turkish firearms in general have come down in price. My local gunsmith (who probably knew Moses when he was a little boy) says Tisas 1911s are just about as good (although not as fancy) as domestically produced 1911’s. He also had good things to say about the Rock Island Armory 1911’s.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good to know. I don't often hear any negative remarks on either brand that have much substance. There are always those who have pride in their expensive gun, but most of those arguments don't go very far. Thanks for the info!

    • @SonOfTheDawn515
      @SonOfTheDawn515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd rather get a rock island than a turkish firearm.

    • @recoveringnewyorker2243
      @recoveringnewyorker2243 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonOfTheDawn515 Agreed. But I bought my Tisas 1911 used.

  • @kevincollier4147
    @kevincollier4147 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The lowered ejection ports on 1911s came about in the 1960s as custom for folks reloading so the brass would not get dented exiting the gun. Also, the narrower 1911 spur hammer is usually a bit shorter so it doesn't bite quite as bad as the wide hammer.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the info! I didn't quite know when that ejection port got bigger

  • @jimwestberg4771
    @jimwestberg4771 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn this vid sold me on getting one myself. All in all, 415 bucks for the pistol, holster, and og grips. To me it's one of the best values out there right now.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's awesome! I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I should have mentioned in the video that a 9mm version is available for around the same price. Would definitely reduce the cost of shooting, but you would lose some of the authenticity.

  • @peacemaker-du4hz
    @peacemaker-du4hz ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The 1911 worked for both my grandpa and my dad in the Corps. Saved both of them from what I'm sure wasnt their best times overseas. Great review on a great 1911. I have a rock island .I dont have the tisas yet but maybe some day

  • @michaelhodges8312
    @michaelhodges8312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can purchase the real darker brown and texture GI grips (brand new) at Kahr Arms. Just got a pair.

  • @freepatriot6028
    @freepatriot6028 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have one, it's a real good pistol for the price ,shoots good ,reliable, haven't had any problems, I'm pretty happy with it

  • @davidcox3076
    @davidcox3076 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the review! Several years ago my friend brought his Canik to the shootin' ditch. Turkish pistol? Color me very skeptical. But it was built solidly with a smooth trigger. I was very impressed. Now I'm seeing good things about the Tisas 1911. Maybe I was wrong about the Turks.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was always the same way about Turkish firearms. I am very happy with this pistol. The only other Turkish gun I have is a CZ licensed hammered double barrel. Review coming at some point on that.

    • @peteloomis8456
      @peteloomis8456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Supposedly the Turkish army uses these Tisas as their standard carry pistols from what I read .

  • @seanstewart6336
    @seanstewart6336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn Bro , why me I just got an Rock inland 1911 , I love my gun but I paid Two bills more. Now you come up with this you are killing me . just kidding. Like your show good work. S . Stewart

  • @woodrowbrimm2805
    @woodrowbrimm2805 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks very good for the money, just wish they had Ambidextrous Safeties then.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have a few other models that do. Unfortunately, I don't think they make the "US Army" version with one.

  • @tpelle2
    @tpelle2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm an old 1911 shooter - been shooting them for over 40 years (I just turned 70). Regarding your complaint about hammer bite - this has nothing to do with a one handed vs. two handed grip, but it has everything to do with your high-thumb grip. Evolution has provided us with something called an "opposable thumb". Why go against five or so million years of evolution. Shooting your pistol with you thumb or thumbs waving around up in the air like rabbit ears adds NOTHING to your shooting performance. Once you draw your pistol, and your right thumb sweeps the safety off as it comes on target, the right thumb has done its job - except for helping you hold on to the pistol either through recoil, or during an attempt by your assailant to take the pistol away from you to kill you with it! That right thumb should be curled down on the grip to around the height of the mag release button (but not on it - if you have thumbs like an orangutan). Hold the pistol like you are holding a hammer. Do you hold a hammer or a screwdriver or any other tool with your thumbs waving around like deelybobbers? GET A GRIP! Concentrate on applying grip pressure with all three available fingers - especially your little finger. That will give you best recoil control.
    Also, for releasing the slide after a mag change, don't waste time with an over-the-top or slingshot maneuver to release the slide. After you push the fresh magazine home with the heel of your support hand, the hand should roll forward so that your support hand fingers wrap around your strong hand finger and the thumb will naturally fall into place on the slide release. After it releases the slide the thumb should come down to a position on top of the strong hand thumb in order to add to the gripping power.
    If you are compelled to shoot one-handed, you can either break your shooting grip to reach the slide release, or you can hook the rear sight on your pistol belt or heel of your boot, whatever.
    These are just my suggestions after most of a lifetime shooting handguns - but I have a real prejudice against that high thumb shooting grip. The only thing that it seems to do for you is to press against the slide and impede it's cycling - which is not a good thing - or getting against the slide stop lever and prematurely locking the slide back under recoil (because they don't have a good enough grip on the gun in the first place because of the rabbit-ears thing). I've asked numerous shooters I've seen shooting this way about it, and what the benefit is, and all they say is something like "Well, that's how everybody does it on TH-cam!"
    By the way, during WWII the government basically took possession of all wood, such as walnut or beech, for use in manufacturing rifle stocks. The companies that were making 1911s were unable to, then, make wood grips for their pistols - as pistols were of a lower priority than rifles. So Colt invented a plastic material suitable for injection-molding 1911 grips, and they actually called it "Coltwood".

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info, especially the "colt wood". I had no idea.
      Most all of the shooting I've learned was just gleaning info from people since about age 14. Before that we never had handguns, only rifles and shotguns. I am by no means a trainer and don't claim to be. So when someone has new info it's always taken into consideration.

  • @martynrosa
    @martynrosa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed the video and it's very informative. I have a Tisas 1911a1 to add to my military display. The field gear to your left brings back a lot of memories. Thank you.

  • @johnwebb4191
    @johnwebb4191 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I would venture to say that in the early years no one even discussed or brought up the subject of "hammer bite". Men have become soft and complain about things that would embarrass those that preceded before them. If it hurts, walk it off!!!

    • @rednecksniper4715
      @rednecksniper4715 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yes they did the extended beaver tail is one of the A1 upgrades from the ww1 1911

    • @johnwebb4191
      @johnwebb4191 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rednecksniper4715 I have a Colt 1911 and a Remington Rand 1911a1 and I see no visual difference between the two in regards to the beaver tail. Actually modern shooters are still whining about the pinch with the so called upgrade from the WW2 upgrade. These guns were to be shot with one hand and when you use both hands the web is pushed up into the area where the injury occurs. Just like the doctor told the patient after the patient says "it hurts when I press or push right here". The doc told him, "well don't push there and it won't hurt".

    • @rednecksniper4715
      @rednecksniper4715 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@johnwebb4191 I can assure you original WW1 1911’s have a shorter beaver tail I have a 1916 colt and it’s got the short beaver tail a lot of ww1 1911’s received some A1 upgrades like the extended beaver tail. You can ask legacy collectibles for comparison photos if you’d like they have alot right now

    • @mondaymotivator_
      @mondaymotivator_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They also probably wore gloves more frequently back in the day, so I’d assume they felt it less

    • @johnwebb4191
      @johnwebb4191 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mondaymotivator_ We never wore gloves "back in the day" because we couldn't afford them. The Marines never wore them. Hell we never wore gloves when putting up hay for pity sake. We dealt with callouses, sores, cuts, and bleeding and never said a word. Not like this new generation. Our generation never wore gloves unless you worked for a union and they made you wear them or bought them for you. I am telling you that males have been feminized and are a bunch of whiny butts. People want to ignore this and not admit it but it is the truth. Modern man is a much weaker example of what he used to be.

  • @walterminer4990
    @walterminer4990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Cimmeron, smashed that spelling, makes an as original 1911 as possible. It was the model used in the movie, The Wild Bunch.
    Old 1911 guys, I mean age wise, will dab some bright nail polish on that front sight. Heck, Bill Wilson and Ken Hackathorn use a dab of paint decades ago, so why not, they shot okay!
    Nice presentation!
    Best to ya',,,,!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Cimarron does make a standard 1911. They have a similar ejection port size to a modern 1911, but they do a really good job for the most part. Thanks for the kind words.

  • @dotjai330
    @dotjai330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:30 the gun is for close quarter killing- within 25ft. Don't think you're going to run around hunting targets beyond 30ft. in the dark.

    • @keithhagler502
      @keithhagler502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truer words never been spoken.

  • @lens7859
    @lens7859 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Recently bought the same one. It was my first 1911. Wanted to see if I liked the platform. Well now I’m hooked and want more, and I don’t care what the gun snobs say, this is one solid, tight, accurate and well built handgun. I have fired more expensive ones and it shoots the same. If you want to try a 1911, can’t beat it!

  • @kevinschlub5872
    @kevinschlub5872 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m very old, I’ve been out of the Army ( Armor Cav Recon Scout ) longer than most of you have been on this earth.I’d like to make a personal observation, no reflexion on any of you that have commented. I come from a generation that appreciated fine American products that were known qualities, such as Colt Firearms. If someone were to tell me that a counterfeit 1911 were being in a shit hole country using stolen intellectual property, R&D, and technology, and even though it may be rough around the edges, sub par materials and assembly, might hold up, I’d definitely say “no thanks!”, but that’s just me. My firearms are for family, home, and self defense, so I don’t want a “maybe OK”.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can definitely understand the sentiment. For me, this pistol fills a role in my collection that would otherwise cost upwards of $2,000 and I would most likely never shoot it. For personal defense, each should do their own research and train with the firearm they choose. Personally, this particular firearm is not at all what I carry daily or what sits near the bed. Thank you for your service and input. Happy new year

  • @michaelfuller2378
    @michaelfuller2378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should have included the saber we used in calvary school, nice porn stash.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess I'm going to need some swords. And you should see the stache when I shave the beard...it's terrifying.

  • @DavidSmith-qs8rb
    @DavidSmith-qs8rb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have the same gun and mine has no play in the slide and my sights are dead on

  • @deerslayer303B
    @deerslayer303B ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does everyone elses Tisas A1 look like a nice Parkerized piece and mine looks like a cera coated POS! It shoots great but is ugly as hell IMO.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder if the color mix was off when you got yours.

    • @deerslayer303B
      @deerslayer303B ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@triplefshooting Probably so, it looks terrible LOL. I wish we could post a pic in these comments because I would show ya.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @deerslayer303B me too. Mine is a little greenish but still looks pretty good overall. What color did you end up with?

    • @deerslayer303B
      @deerslayer303B ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@triplefshooting it looks like green baby poop to be honest LOL.. I may take it to work and media blast it and either let it patina or maybe some plum brown. To give it that old look

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @deerslayer303B good luck! I'd be interested to hear how it turns out.

  • @1001Hobbies
    @1001Hobbies 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's a newer *3,000 round* review of this gun on another channel. The only wear that it had was cosmetic wear to the Cerakote finish in some places, such as holster wear around the muzzle end of the slide, as well as inside the slide, but NO MECHANICAL WEAR. The slide was just as tight as when it was bought. Very impressive.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the info! That's good news

  • @tomschrein417
    @tomschrein417 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got mine a couple weeks ago. It came with 2 sets of grips wood (double diamond) and plastic. Put 100 rounds through it, no hammer bite. Great gun, I like it so much I think I’m going to buy the Tank Commander too.

  • @Cageey1117
    @Cageey1117 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I received a Tisas 1911A1 from SDI for my 1911 armorers course. I'm just getting started. The sights are small-way small. And the front sight is staked in.

  • @enscroggs
    @enscroggs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding durability, here's a 3000-round report: th-cam.com/video/PtWNXONvaQQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @popeyesm2
    @popeyesm2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great gun...I bought the 45 & 9mm.....At first I was just going to get the 9 because the ammo is cheap and the 1911 A1 look was there. But because I carried a 1911A1 45 in the Navy I decided I needed it also..I could field strip the 1911 A1 when I was in the 5th grade. They now come in a nice case with 2 mags along with the walnut & plastic grips.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I almost did the exact same thing. I couldn't find a 9mm version when I purchased this. In the end I'm glad I ended up with the 45. Would be cool to have both though...

  • @usualsuspect5173
    @usualsuspect5173 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sand or file a radius along the bottom edge of the grip safety and you'll see a difference in "hammer bite", those corners are too sharp, I've got Tisas, RIA s and my grandfathers colt from WW1, but i can tell you those Philippino pistols shoot great

  • @SB-mw1bg
    @SB-mw1bg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    319.00 @ Gunbuyer right now with the rounded hammer spur..........4/26/23.

  • @donwilson9086
    @donwilson9086 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I might get one just because in 1971 I qualified on a 1911 in AIT at ft. Polk Louisiana.I have revolvers and two 9 mm auto Ruger and M and P . And Taurus T22. My grandson has the Ruger 1911. I would not want to put much money in it because the ammo will cost plenty…. Just for old time sake. I have land to shoot on. Does this come in a 9 mm because I have plenty of that ammo?

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It does come in 9mm but is usually a few bucks more. I almost purchased the 9mm version for the exact same reason. Good luck and have fun!

    • @allanfranklin9615
      @allanfranklin9615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it's about 25 bucks higher priced, but 9mm ammo more affordable. Well made, grips are great, mine came with extra mag, extra set of plastic grips ( why I am not sure), nice hard case, cleaning brush and tool. I have fired only 100 rounds through it, but it did very well. I just hope they will be able to keep prices down as I would like to have another, maybe theirTanker model. As for now, this is a shooter.

  • @andykennard9458
    @andykennard9458 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s a nice little gun, love mine, never had a single issue with it, and as you said you can’t beat the price.

  • @gordonrogers3270
    @gordonrogers3270 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ping pong needs to keep his rice patty mouth closed and worry more about his own citizens uprising against him...

  • @HeavyJay1421
    @HeavyJay1421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I spent 280 on this clone not my EDC or my truck gun. Just a gun I saw at a okay price.

  • @crustjunkie
    @crustjunkie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bought this about 2 weeks ago for roughly $329, and just picked it up at my FFL today, but have yet to shoot it. I got the Service Special version on accident not knowing there were different variations of the Tisas 1911A1. The only difference is it has a skeletonized commander style hammer, comes with more of your premium 8 round mags that extend out the grip, and came with an extra pair of swappable black grips. Crazy that alot of people have been picking these up over the holidays, I've seen a bunch of reviews in the past couple weeks. Looks like I made a good choice.

    • @korazjian5251
      @korazjian5251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i picked up the service special as well i paid 341 after tax, I love this pistol lol
      i put some VZ operator II grips and goddamn it feels good in the hand.
      do not regret my purchase at all, IMO tisas and canik are giving US brand a run for their money.

  • @BillPMcLaughlin
    @BillPMcLaughlin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid review. Lotta info with lotta video vs too much talking….and potato wedges!
    Looking forward to my Tisas 1911 A1 to arrive at my local FFL in a day or so.

  • @Bob-gl6cg
    @Bob-gl6cg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the US ARMY now sells with a second set of grips and fair market now is around $435.

  • @TheAmerican1963
    @TheAmerican1963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They have 2 Remington-Rand clones ....... An Army version and the Marine Corps. version. Pretty cool to see that.

  • @boomdawg56
    @boomdawg56 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am remembering shooting the 1911 in Boot Camp, one handed, weak hand went in our trouser pockets to make sure we didn't use two hands and get bitten. WHen my eyes were younger and I could easily see those tiny sights, I found taking a fin bead with those sights improved group size. Love the 1911's from Tisas and RIA.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Always cool to hear from people who actually have experience in the military with the 1911a1. Lots of fun comments about hammer bite not being a thing or how sad and lowly one must be to say it exists. It's not the worst thing in the world. It's actually cool that it exists on this clone and gets that close to the real thing.

  • @mulder4528
    @mulder4528 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have had the same experiences with these. I note that as they seem very consistent gun to gun. Just amazing for what they cost. My take away is why so many manufacturers at three times the price do not do better than this pistol. The old 1911A1 pistol works, not ideal as you say but it works and if for any reason it’s all you had no reason you could not prevail lot of people have.

  • @Justhings332
    @Justhings332 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1911 parts don’t “fail”

  • @jackmorrow427
    @jackmorrow427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the frame and slide is forged the barrel is hammer forged 360 for the is unheard of looking to get one may trade my sar b6p for it

  • @michaela.sereno5436
    @michaela.sereno5436 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoyed your review on the Tisas A1/1911 you got straight to the point and didn't carry on with a bunch of rambling B.S., thank you. Very good info and straight forward.

  • @barryfroelich3526
    @barryfroelich3526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At Ft . Carson in 1977 the apc drivers carried the 1911 and grease gun . The rest of us had m16 a1’s

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The grease gun is a bucket list shooter for me. Hopefully I can get back out to Battlefield Vegas and give one a try

    • @barryfroelich3526
      @barryfroelich3526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@triplefshooting they were crude stamped metal. The bolt was a Huge,long magazine ,chambered in .45 cool !

  • @henrydelvalle7706
    @henrydelvalle7706 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great gun, bought it when they first came out and zero issues.

  • @truthteller9562
    @truthteller9562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first gun i bought when I turned 18 was a colt 1911A1 in 1992. I got this one 6 months ago and its just as sweet. Ironically i paid the same as i did for the colt. 😅😂

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too bad those days are long gone! Glad the clone is that close to the real thing though.

  • @easyfiveOsink
    @easyfiveOsink ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For those that have held off buying a 1911 because of cost reasons, I would say what are you waiting for? I had break-in extraction issues with my RIA 1911 that I did not have with the Tisas made 1911. Whether you go for the bare bones clone or a tweaked target style 1911 take advantage of the $ exchange rates and get a Tisas. The quality is there and they don't disappoint.

    • @KyleFromThe575
      @KyleFromThe575 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cant recommend Tisas enough much better quality than RIA imo super tight tolerances better than paying 1500+ for an original colt 1911a1 if youre on a budget or just want to save some money lol.

  • @michaelhodges8312
    @michaelhodges8312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve found that my Wilson Combat 47DCB mags are the best. Comes with low profile base plate. Leaving that Mec-Gar in the Tisas box.

  • @chrismead5446
    @chrismead5446 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the Military in the 1980s they focused more on 2 handed grip. They taught the shooter to keep the firing hand thumb low for strength of weapon retention and then wrap your support thumb around your trigger hand thumb. Kinda like a high revolver grip. I leanred to shoot a 1911 with a high revolver grip. I never get hammered bite. I was taught by Vietnam and Desert Storm veterans.

  • @trenacook7694
    @trenacook7694 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I concur. Tisas us army is One heck of a forged frame, forged slide, and hammer forged barrel 1911.

  • @ehcatsfaneric2211
    @ehcatsfaneric2211 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can I have some of your tots Napoleon?

  • @gaberay2903
    @gaberay2903 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hammer bite is just a part of the 1911 experience

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oddly, it's one of the things that made me like this replica even more. Closer to the real thing is always good

    • @gaberay2903
      @gaberay2903 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@triplefshootingmakes me want it even more lol

  • @bunkstagner298
    @bunkstagner298 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was originally called the Mozambique a technique used by Mike Roussseua years ago in a life or death fight . He won that fight

  • @jmsmeier1113
    @jmsmeier1113 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Try swapping out the mil spec hammer for a commander hammer. Problem solved.

  • @geraldmiller5232
    @geraldmiller5232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i bought my colt 45 in 1980 for $290.00. wish i could have waited until now to buy. i would have bought one of those clones.

  • @user-zs1fr7im6l
    @user-zs1fr7im6l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really nice 1911 for $339 buck or so ! Turkish quality !

  • @blankeny
    @blankeny ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Garbage! Two months and 8 rounds after purchase, a manufacturing problem showed up. I am not the first to have this happen to.The safety jammed in the safe position, making this an expensive paperweight. When I contacted SDS/TISAS, and explained my personal protection concerns. I was told, NO RETURNS NO REFUNDS! I will never do business with SDS/TISAS AGAIN and neither should you!!!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a shame. Customer service and support is often more important than the product in the first place. No product can be perfect, and when you can fix problems it will kill business. Sorry your experience was that bad. Hopefully they'll pay attention to comments and such and change their tune.

  • @stevepowell8866
    @stevepowell8866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As for quality over time? I've got well over 4000 rounds through my Tisas Army model and the only failure was around 1500 rounds when the firing pin stop broke. Quick, cheap and easy fix with an Ed Brown replacement and it's been flawless ever since. It's by far my favorite shooter.

  • @fratercontenduntocculta8161
    @fratercontenduntocculta8161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have this very same model and it blew me away just like this video. The mag that came with mine was a sweet Italian made Mec-Gar one too! Already fired well over 100 rounds with no jams or stoppages. If you're in the market for an inexpensive .45, give this one a try!

  • @twistedarm
    @twistedarm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own 2 of these, its a little heavy but that makes it more stable when sighting .by using lime green model paint for $5 or less a bottle it gives a great contrast.

  • @jc-vc7xq
    @jc-vc7xq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve owned this gun for about 2 years now and I’ve shot over 1500 rounds through it. Couldn’t be happier with it. It’s a forged slide, frame and barrel so durability and longevity shouldn’t be a problem.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good to hear. Mine is going on a year now and have no complaints.

  • @tacticaltarzan7278
    @tacticaltarzan7278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one must occasionally engage in munching potatoes at the pistol range LOL

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be they fried French, or wedged in shape, they are the very fuel that keeps us shooting.

    • @tacticaltarzan7278
      @tacticaltarzan7278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@triplefshooting indeed

    • @Jobey-sy2dk-Jobey
      @Jobey-sy2dk-Jobey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tacticaltarzan7278 Amen!

  • @popsncracks9108
    @popsncracks9108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    price on this gun is joke. its more reliable and acurate than my $900 kimber

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it'd be nice if some of the American companies could keep up. I understand that the price of materials and labor is different in other countries. Hopefully this kind of product helps to keep the U.S. market competitive.

  • @tractortyme
    @tractortyme 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The TISAS 1911 Army has the 1918 hammer on it.

  • @WilliamSirman
    @WilliamSirman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have one on the way! I will compare it mentally to my issued (1981) Remington Rand, made in 1943! I still remember the serial number! I never got hammer bite from my original! I have other 1911's but can't wait to receive this highly rated clone!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Hammer bite seems to be a person to person issue. Lots get it, lots don't. Hopefully you don't get it

  • @tsmgguy
    @tsmgguy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's a newer version out now that doesn't have an enlarged ejection port or mag well bevel. There are no markings on the slide at all. The wide hammer spur is gone in favor of a narrower hammer. Grips are walnut but plastic grips are included. It has two Mec-Gar mags.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well crap. I'm going to have to check out the slide on the new one

  • @ramboii2324
    @ramboii2324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have found a dot of white paint on the front sight does the trick for front sight focus

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. I've done it on a few of my handguns and it works really well for little cost.

  • @hd114ul7
    @hd114ul7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I looked at them and would buy and trust my life on it over a Kimber any day.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't had the pleasure of handling and shooting a "newer" kimber after they moved. I've heard mixed reviews since.

  • @marcoscomeau4571
    @marcoscomeau4571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Waiting for my Tisas to get to the FFL, I’m pretty excited about it! Awesome video Sir great job!

    • @JayBoogieLive
      @JayBoogieLive 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How’s it holding up man? Currently waiting on my Tisas 1911 government to get to FFL and I’m anxious lol

  • @Milkman3572000
    @Milkman3572000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought one. LOTS of good reviews. First impression, it is accurate. I have a goal of wearing this gun out. I have about $430 in it total. I'd buy another.. If a local shop had them in stock.
    Someone posted below.. painting the front sight. YES. I am old I need some help with the front sight.

  • @DownUnderTexasPerformance
    @DownUnderTexasPerformance 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love these honestly, amazing beginner gun that I probably never rid of

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am very impressed with it still. Any friends that shoot it have almost immediately started searching to buy one as well

  • @karlhoss6840
    @karlhoss6840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The sights were low profile and small because the pistol was designed in the mid-1900s......it was a combat pistol designed for point shooting with one hand. You nailed it...
    Shoot old guns the way they were designed to be fired.
    People forget that it's nearly a 120 year old design and

  • @hoppinggnomethe4154
    @hoppinggnomethe4154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great as a first 1911, and great as a 1911 to be sent to a gunsmith for custom work

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never thought of the second option. That's an excellent point

  • @MMCUSN
    @MMCUSN 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I didn't already have some Armscor 1911's I'd probably go for one of these.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Having owned both I actually enjoy this a little more. Not because it shoots better or anything, just because I can make it look a little more historically accurate

  • @GreedyDoctor
    @GreedyDoctor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta have a potato wedge to fuel up before shooting

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Started with nutritious fried chicken, but the wedge is what kept me in the fight

  • @junkyardog6621
    @junkyardog6621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got mine for $249 from Sportsmans Warehouse. Brought it in as a used firearm but it has never been shot. An absolute steal for the price!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good Lord, I'd say that's a good deal

  • @AeolusIICB
    @AeolusIICB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We were taught a saucer/tea cup two handed grip (80s) so no bite. 🤷🏻‍♂️Loves me Tisas! 👍

  • @mrshifter8220
    @mrshifter8220 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have three Tisas 1911's....this one, the ZIG (older model) and just received the Tanker....all are over the top quality and accurate.....personally I like the nubbie sights, I'm 70, and grew up on them. Also have two Girsan 1911, Turkish made and super quality also. Enjoyed your video fellow Patriot!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Glad you're enjoying yours as much as I am. I love running the old style 1911 as well and find it to be fairly easy to shoot even compared to the larger modern sights

  • @DRNEGOLICIS
    @DRNEGOLICIS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got one this week. Mines made in the USA. Manufactured In Tennessee

    • @brianpaddack3088
      @brianpaddack3088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made in Turkey. Imported through Tennessee.

  • @MrMark-hm9lk
    @MrMark-hm9lk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's a major plus that the eject port is larger.

  • @BonnieKay13
    @BonnieKay13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a ONE hand gun, grip it tight, all fingers tight. Other hand support is under the butt, no fingers on the gun. I've shot Colts in the army, my Tisas plenty with never any 'bite'. Hold it right, no hammer bite. See Army .45 pistol training film, lean how to use this combat pistol.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว

      Always more fun to shoot historical guns the way they were meant to be!

  • @ahalfsesameseedbun7472
    @ahalfsesameseedbun7472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not accurate if you can't get hammer bit. I know what I'm getting when back in town.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're hard not to like once it's in hand.

  • @matthewmcallister8546
    @matthewmcallister8546 ปีที่แล้ว

    One vital detail you missed concerns the GI manual of arms. We don't shoot a 1911a1 "Tums forward" that's why you have hammer bite, your not supposed to hold the gun on the "slide". One hand with your other hand cupping the bottom. Look it up if you want to be authentic. Good review otherwise.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and noted. Many others have said similar. It is funny to read some of the arguing on this specific topic. Some get awfully antsy about anyone suggesting a "teacup" grip, as if the world will end if anyone still shoots that way. Always glad to hear from those who did it officially at the time over internet commandos.

  • @mitchellross2400
    @mitchellross2400 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Safety First!". According to the owner's manual, the Tisas 1911A1, in 45 ACP, should not be used with +P ammo. The same warning is issued for it's 9 mm version of the 1911A1, and for it's copy of the Browning Hi-Power. No where on the gun itself is this critically important information marked, which could prove dangerous for those who never read their owner's manuals. Hickok 45 did a review of a Tisas 1911A1 in 45 ACP and, as he has large hands being 6'8" tall, he did not get hammer bite, but he got SLIDE bite. None of his other 1911s do this to him. A gun that cannot handle +P ammo does not instill confidence, and would make one question the quality of it's structural integrity. The matter of the warning to not use +P ammo in Tisas firearms is documented in the NRA periodical "The American Rifleman". Thanks!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info, definitely worth noting. Luckily, this gun will only be a fun period piece for me and will not see a steady diet of high pressure ammo.

  • @steveh5749
    @steveh5749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tisas warrenty service sucks. Dontbuyone,!!!!!!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That sucks to hear. I haven't had to deal with it but that can be a deal breaker

  • @michaelgross7016
    @michaelgross7016 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought this pistol for less than $300....transfer included....about 1.5 yrs ago.
    Its exactly like the 1911a1 I was issued in 1987....(before beretta ramped it up)
    The cerecote finish is very much like what I was issued (1911a1 remington rand). But, this finish is top notch for durability.
    Accurate as hell. came with plastic and wood grips!!!
    Its my favorite.

  • @earlmorrison8163
    @earlmorrison8163 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not bad shootin pistol. I have not seen one up close ! Thanks for the video !!

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem! It was fun to make. I'm sure I say it enough in the video but this thing was very impressive!

    • @sdsimports
      @sdsimports ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have gotten a lot of positive feedback this year on our 1911's.

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tisas USA I was a bit nervous before purchasing, but am very glad that I did. This was the first tisas product I've ever owned and used. I've also been interested in the PX9 for the price point.

  • @pipeninja1578
    @pipeninja1578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a GREAT one! Thanks for reviewing it.

  • @SpinoAdri2001
    @SpinoAdri2001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I get one without the "USA government model" Markings?

    • @triplefshooting
      @triplefshooting  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You sure can. They make many variations

    • @SpinoAdri2001
      @SpinoAdri2001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@triplefshooting I want this one but without the marking on the side
      Just plain pistol to put it on a wall
      Without people thinking I was in some war or something

  • @sthompson4049
    @sthompson4049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tisas has a video that is pretty good,been around over 100 years