Shostakovich - Violin Sonata op.134 (Kremer, Gavrilov)

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  • I. 0:14 II. 10:57 III. 17:04 IV. 27:18
    resynced version of original upload by Puchjok:
    "Andrei Gavrilov and Gidon Kremer historic concert in Berlin Philharmonic hall during their European tour 1978. Both artists did not know for quite a long time that the concert was secretly video recorded."
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  • @georgewewiora3808
    @georgewewiora3808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I see the word "ugly" coming up a number of times. I find this incomprehensible. The variety of sound and tempo is so remarkable and the energy of the players so marvellous so that I find listening to this performance a beautiful and moving experience.

    • @egmont5044
      @egmont5044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Ugly” is the wrong word. The music is grotesque. Intentionally so.

  • @egmont5044
    @egmont5044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything is here. Humor, sweetness, tragedy, defiance, fear, resignation. I am grateful to the artist this work exists.

  • @jeffgrigsbyjones
    @jeffgrigsbyjones 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's a concept in the hospitality industry called "dark tourism." It's when people go to sites of atrocities, death and suffering, like Auschwitz, Ground Zero, Chernobyl. Listening to Shostakovich reminds me of that phenomenon. You don't click because you expect to be coddled or uplifted. You listen because you have a fascination with anguish, pain and despair. Good for you. You get rewarded with some of the best music written in the past 100 years.

  • @chadgifford499
    @chadgifford499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First off, wow. If you like this, you should hear his version with a chamber orchestra. It pretty much melted my face. I find I love Kremer's playing more and more the older I get. I wish I could put my finger on exactly what it is. As an aging classically trained violinist, I wish I could have sounded like him. I like everything about him, he plays an Amati (he could play on any fiddle he wishes), his expressions, and who and how he collaborates with. When it comes to 20th century Russian music, he is simply stunning. As far as the music is concerned, well I would love a solo sonata for snare drum if Shostakovich had written one. Strike my statement on if you like this you will love the chamber music version. You have to hear that, it brings this piece to a whole different emotional spectrum. Both versions are spectacular.

  • @wcsxwcsx
    @wcsxwcsx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can certainly understand how people hearing this work with no previous exposure to this musical world would find this music worthless and ugly. But it wasn't written for their type of person. It's hard for me to explain why I like it. I didn't start out liking it in my earlier days. But as I've aged and become ever more cynical toward life, I think I've come to understand and appreciate this music.

    • @stephenchurley2438
      @stephenchurley2438 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +wcsxwcsx I totally agree. I found it hard to grasp in my twenties but it makes sense now I'm 57. I think it is one of the greatest chamber works of the 20th century in fact, and one of Shostakovich's most personal statements.

    • @ningning1609
      @ningning1609 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it's because it's not as happy-go-lucky as many composers. as Dimitri Shostakovich was always afraid of the soviet union and was a chain smoker. The use of dissonance may add to the effect and since our lives are not as happy as many other music, we may enjoy it because it is relatable to our lives

  • @Glockenzunge
    @Glockenzunge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If that's the way he felt ... and yet, he stayed. This takes a couple of hearings just to get into it enough to start enjoying it, if "enjoying" is the right word.

  • @uzefulvideos3440
    @uzefulvideos3440 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Play it so that flies drop dead in mid-air, and the audience starts leaving the hall from sheer boredom." - Shostakovich, 1975

  • @flyingmintbunnyouo9407
    @flyingmintbunnyouo9407 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    god I just love Shotsakovich, this is my dream piece~ kind off I hope I can play this when I'm good enough

    • @andywalmart
      @andywalmart 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      YOUVE HAD 3 YEARS..HAVE U LEARNED THIS YET?.....FOR FLYINGMINTBUNNYOUO

  • @farzinnegahban2566
    @farzinnegahban2566 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What an amazing sonata, one of the best chamber works by the composer even though I prefer Oistrakh's interpretation. Shostakovich's music maybe at times gloomy or dark but one thing that it is not is boring, in fact he wrote some of the most passionate and moving music in the 20th century.

  • @geoffthedonkey2295
    @geoffthedonkey2295 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A beautifully controlled and masterful interpretation.

  • @benkissinger
    @benkissinger 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just great - The number 134 could not appear more sinister!

  • @alexanderherbertkurz
    @alexanderherbertkurz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the second movement ... wow ... this is pure rocknroll ... I cannot help thinking that this is what Jimi Hendrix would have played if he could have done it ... Hendrix always tried to explore new sounds on the electric guitar, he played songs in which noise becomes beautiful ... but how much further you can go with a violin and piano without any elecric amplification and effects, just a bow on a string ... amazing ... I love this piece ... (An afterthought: This piece was composed in 1968.)

  • @Notab2012
    @Notab2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Доброго!

  • @CyanE777
    @CyanE777 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just fell in love with this. Beautiful.

  • @cyphicle
    @cyphicle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quelle classe ! Gidon Kremer just speaking his mother language.

  • @kjs3563
    @kjs3563 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love gidon kremer and his music. ..

  • @YuiAlatriste
    @YuiAlatriste 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gavrilov es un prodigio: tuve la oportunidad de escucharlo hace 5 años y lo que hizo con Rachmaninov y Puccini fue inolvidable.

  • @harryandruschak2843
    @harryandruschak2843 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Like" on 21 December 2016. I do not comprehend the three "dislikes".

  • @tmjcbs
    @tmjcbs 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb!

  • @HenJack-vl5cb
    @HenJack-vl5cb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb performance.

  • @phosphor3617
    @phosphor3617 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually find this not only listenable but very endearing, easy, and appealing music. Modernism has fucked my head

    • @diegeigergarnele7975
      @diegeigergarnele7975 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only people who thinks they're geniuses and never question about themselves can say this isn't beautiful. This kind of music requires only patience and humilty to be underestand... world is full of idiots, but it's always beautiful finding someone who actually can underestand this.

  • @robtyman4281
    @robtyman4281 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those saying Shostakovich is ''as boring as any modernist'' are obviously not familiar with much of his music. Most of his music did not sound like this piece. This is late Shostakovich.
    Listen to The Gadfly, his Ballet, and Jazz Suites, his Hamlet suite, and his early symphonies, then tell me all of them are boring and modernist......but you won't. Don't judge a composer solely by one piece of music - or any of his later music. The Shostakovich that found acclaim was very different from this.

  • @slateflash
    @slateflash 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i think the second movement requires incredible stamina
    i also wonder how much the page flipper gets paid

  • @jiyujizai
    @jiyujizai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎶❣️☺️💕

  • @MrFpam
    @MrFpam 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't watch videos of music you don't like just in order to make unhelpful negative comments!

  • @kovvvas
    @kovvvas 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pero, después de todo, nos gusta ser parte de un grupo tan selecto. Nos hace bien al ego.

  • @ramonbril
    @ramonbril 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you like Shostakovic, it shows that you have indulged in more complex style forms of classical music. Ricardo da mata is right in what I read he writes, if you leave out the possibility of learning: acquiring a taste other than the persons' tradition. It is telling though that he does not form any arguments, a very religious habit.
    Nonetheless, if he is willing to live by his old traditions, he may. He will not grow and not be a person, rather a culture of old. For him, words are only means to convey emotion, as learning is not something he interested in. One can learn to like any piece of art, with some experiences, like made possible by Shostakovic, rewarding more the person than say, some minutes of silence.

    • @martinsinger9886
      @martinsinger9886 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always would see one of these "wise" critques, what they would say about a beautiful chinese poem without speaking chinese.
      Btw.: Shostakovichs works very often show a synthesis of russian and jewish mentality and culture - just listen to the piano trio - music in the "shtetl", jews dancing for their life. Shostakovichs musical language is so overwhelming personal - take the cadenza of the violin concerto or the piano quintet, the 15th string quartet, the viola sonata (which I long ago played myself.
      I'd like to say more, but English is not my first language and I am not good enough in it to express my thoughts and feelings clear enough. Just one evening which I remember. It was in Moscow in this old churchnear the red square. The borodin quartet playe quartets 11 - 14 and at the end there was no reaction for an eternity. I had the feeling that the time had stopped and the audience did not even breathe before the storm broke loose.

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing does not exclude the other.

  • @MrFpam
    @MrFpam 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you mean by this silly insulting comment? If anyone is a simpleton it is you! I note that some of your other unpleasant comments have been removed!

  • @brancepethbob
    @brancepethbob 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ugly? this is a late work, after seventy years of pain and disillusion living in the soviet union. Or perhaps you think composers and artists shouldn't address "ugly"?

  • @JoanCarazo
    @JoanCarazo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's subjective. It's boring for you, like other composers are boring for me. If you think music can't be ugly, then I'm afraid you will never apreciate many compositions like Beethoven's Grosse Fugue, or Stravinsky's Rite of the Spring. I don't like Shostakovich because his name. I like him for the String quartets, violin & piano concertos, piano trios and piano quintet... I don't consider myself an expert in his music, but I don't need that for enjoying him.

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we analyze art in a subjective way therefore pop music may be better than classical music. Relativism is easy; hard is to see the truth.

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t want attention. Please… It is just criticism: some works deserve praise and others censure. To accept everything and behave like fans it’s easy but it’s not a very clever thing to do.

  • @PawelVVysocki
    @PawelVVysocki 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you must have had some other word in mind.

  • @Mnacuspia004
    @Mnacuspia004 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It will be better if Ricardo da Mata could make an analysis based on musical facts, like counterpoint, melody richness or questions like: how do you think Shostakovich used consonances and dissonances in this sonata? - for example: i dont think at all that this is a dissonant, noisy-ugly non-tonal musik, i rather think that is a kind of "conservative" and beautifully "classical" way to express himself musically, if you compare him to other composers of that world of the painful "modernity", in wich was just impossible to write a mayor chord, just because it doesn´t make any sense to make music as if we where people from the f..king youtube-less 19 century, please.

  • @salgoudsamoht
    @salgoudsamoht 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you forget to put a capital 'T' in the word 'truth'? or maybe you meant to write 'THE truth' . . . either way, it would be nice to know the truth. i have non-logical feelings about music, some of it appeals to me and some doesn't, for subjective reasons that come from how a piece makes me feel. i'm afraid this can distract me from the real meaning de las obras de música clásica.

  • @MrFpam
    @MrFpam 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I should have expected some more rubbish like this from you. First you said it was as boring as any modernist, meaning you don't like any modern music. Now you say it is ugly and try to present this as a stylistic analysis! You don't have to like Shostakovich or any other modern music. You are not alone in this. But why watch it on TH-cam and then make rude insulting comments to others who do like it?

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't be simpleton...

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m saying that anyone who doesn’t understand a critic, a stylistic analysis is a simpleton. This music is ugly, don’t lie to yourself. It’s not unpleasant comment; it’s the truth you don’t want to hear…

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are analyzing art wrongly. The analysis must be about the piece per se. Ugliness doesn’t make part of art, it is just a modernist concept that everybody repeats without thinking about it and it is illogical because if it is true subsequently beauty has no value.

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know his complete works… They are not much better than this “sonata”… Shostakovich is just a famous name.

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shostakovich is as boring as any modernist...